[Fwd: Re: [Bug 178896] Re: Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10]
Please cancel the second Item of this message : I could load easily Ubuntu 9.10. I had no additional order to print as e.g. clocksource=jiffies. It's the first time I could do it so easily...Ubuntu makes improvements. Thanks Please note that due to an updating of yesterday 7/11/09, my desk computer again could not restart as some months ago (I still have Ubuntu 8.04 LTS). I had to reload 8.04 and modify again the starting by adding ''clocksource=jiffries''. Now it can start, stop, and restart. Note also that I tried to load Ubuntu 9.10 from a DVD. I have seen the small disc Ubuntu blinking and apparently a lot of files have been loaded from the DVD. But at the end, I got a black screen and any attempt to do something was impossible excepted switching off the power line. LARCHER a écrit : Yes absolutely. I was at first very happy with Ubuntu. But when I could not update with new versions, I started to think : it's not yet reliable. Fabio a écrit : I had a look at Windows' control panel: it points out a conflict between ATI SMBus and a certain high precision timer, which I suppose to be clocksource related. This is probably a consequence of a BIOS bug, but the average user will think Windows boots and Linux doesn't, which means Linux sucks. This is precisely what Ubuntu is trying to avoid... -- Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/178896 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 178896] Re: Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10
This SEEMS to have been fixed in Jaunty. Unfortunately I'm experiencing two nasty new bugs and I'm trying to realize if they are related to this one before marking as fixed. -- Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/178896 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 178896] Re: Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10
I'm marking this as fixed, as bug 366262 is probably not related to this. If you have the same problem after upgrading please reopen this bug. ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Fix Released -- Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/178896 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 178896] Re: Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10
I had a look at Windows' control panel: it points out a conflict between ATI SMBus and a certain high precision timer, which I suppose to be clocksource related. This is probably a consequence of a BIOS bug, but the average user will think Windows boots and Linux doesn't, which means Linux sucks. This is precisely what Ubuntu is trying to avoid... -- Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/178896 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 178896] Re: Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10
Yes absolutely. I was at first very happy with Ubuntu. But when I could not update with new versions, I started to think : it's not yet reliable. Fabio a écrit : I had a look at Windows' control panel: it points out a conflict between ATI SMBus and a certain high precision timer, which I suppose to be clocksource related. This is probably a consequence of a BIOS bug, but the average user will think Windows boots and Linux doesn't, which means Linux sucks. This is precisely what Ubuntu is trying to avoid... -- Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/178896 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 178896] Re: Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10
Fabio, I have the same problem with an AMD 770 chipset (Biostar TA770SE motherboard). I experience random freezes, which I thought was due to my videocard having a bad V_BIOS checksum. My videocard is an ATI X300SE using the open-source radeon driver. I actually have a replacement (ATI 4550) being shipped to me this week. I am getting this in my system messages on Ubuntu64 8.10, Ubuntu64 9.04, and Arch Linux64 using 2.6.28 kernel: ACPI: I/O resource piix4_smbus [0xb00-0xb07] conflicts with ACPI region SOR1 [0xb00-0xb0f] I wonder if this is an inherent problem with this chipset (poor HPET support)? Fabio, you said - Booting without quiet also results in a clocksource unstable message. If it's clocksource_tsc (the processor's clock), this is expected behavior because of power-saving schemes (PowerNow, Cool'n'Quiet,Speedstep) I will keep testing, playing with using the jiffies clock sources and such and get back to you on this bug. -- Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/178896 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 178896] Re: Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10
As a shows topper perhaps. It's more obvious if you know that I am pretty seventy years old this month of may and not at all skilled in programming ! I do hope that the future system (version 9.04) will be clever enough to start without help of a grandfather ! Best regards Fabio a écrit : I have nominated this for Jaunty, as it is a showstopper for some users: I think that the system should at least be clever enough to apply the workaround automatically. -- Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/178896 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 178896] Re: Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10
I have nominated this for Jaunty, as it is a showstopper for some users: I think that the system should at least be clever enough to apply the workaround automatically. -- Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/178896 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 178896] Re: Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10
Thanks a lot Fabio for your help. I could modify the starting of Grub Now starting and closing are OK I have made notification on the french Forum Fabio a écrit : Try using vim instead of vi -- Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/178896 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 178896] Re: Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10
Try using vim instead of vi -- Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/178896 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 178896] Re: Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10
This is probably the same issue I'm experiencing: same error message, same workaround. Booting without quiet also results in a clocksource unstable message. I encountered it with a Sapphire PURE CrossfireX 770 equipped with an nvidia 8600. the root cause could be this (taken from dmesg output): [ 21.816031] ACPI: I/O resource piix4_smbus [0xb00-0xb07] conflicts with ACPI region SOR2 [0xb00-0xb0f] device :00:14.0 for me identifies the ATI SMBus. I'm suspecting a BIOS bug. -- Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/178896 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 178896] Re: Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10
Whoops. I meant /boot/grub/menu.lst. -- Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/178896 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 178896] Re: Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10
Yes, I could also find it in the meantime. But I am not competent in writing in Linux, and I had some difficulties in writing the additional clocksource=jiffies. I entered as Root, made vi...(file ), obtained the file .lst open and entered i for insertion, but it has not been accepted and I canceled. If you have a procedure to end definitely the matter, I thank you in advance. Fabio a écrit : Whoops. I meant /boot/grub/menu.lst. -- Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/178896 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 178896] Re: Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10
Thanks Fabio ! With clocksource=jiffies, the computer starts and close correctly. Last problem : I cannot find the file /etc/grub/menu.lst. I have only /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ Fabio a écrit : Try using clocksource=jiffies instead of acpi=off: it may get the shutdown to work properly. If you don't want to type your boot options manually every time you have to edit the file /etc/grub/menu.lst. If you have other questions that are not strictly related to this bug, please ask them on Ubuntu forums instead of Launchpad. -- Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/178896 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 178896] Re: Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10
Try using clocksource=jiffies instead of acpi=off: it may get the shutdown to work properly. If you don't want to type your boot options manually every time you have to edit the file /etc/grub/menu.lst. If you have other questions that are not strictly related to this bug, please ask them on Ubuntu forums instead of Launchpad. -- Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/178896 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 178896] Re: Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10
I discover another trouble when closing the computer : it does not want to close and displays several lines of message about default on closing process ! I have to switch off the line... Please help ! Thanks for your help Fabio a écrit : One thing I forgot to mention: if you are able to install with acpi=off, you should also be able to boot with acpi=off. Try to: 1) Install from LiveCD with acpi=off 2) When the GRUB bootloader appears, use the arrow keys to select the desired boot option (typically the first) and press e 3) Go to the boot options row (it should be the second row) and press e again 4) Write acpi=off at the end of the line 5) Press ENTER (or ESC, i can't remember right now) to go back to the previous screen 6) Use the arrow keys to highlight the first row and press b to boot -- Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/178896 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 178896] Re: Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10
Many thanks since I applied the below procedure and I could install Hardy Heron 8.04. Hurrah ! It collapsed first time (black screen again), but I did it again after switching off and it was succesfully. Now, I have another problem : when I stop the computer and start again, I have to apply your procedure again otherwise, I have black screen again ! It looks like whether the order acpi=off was not recorded in the programm. Could you tell me how to arrange this problem ? Fabio wrote: One thing I forgot to mention: if you are able to install with acpi=off, you should also be able to boot with acpi=off. Try to: 1) Install from LiveCD with acpi=off 2) When the GRUB bootloader appears, use the arrow keys to select the desired boot option (typically the first) and press e 3) Go to the boot options row (it should be the second row) and press e again 4) Write acpi=off at the end of the line 5) Press ENTER (or ESC, i can't remember right now) to go back to the previous screen 6) Use the arrow keys to highlight the first row and press b to boot -- Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/178896 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 178896] Re: Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10
That's right: after pushing F6, replace acpi=off with clocksource=jiffies manually, then tell me if it works. -- Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/178896 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 178896] Re: Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10
Thanks, I will try it, but later since I have only one desk computer with only one OS. If installation collapse, I have to re-install Ubuntu 7.04... I will do it after Christmas and report my conclusion. (I cannot understand why 7.04 is OK and all other new devlopments cannot be installed). Thanks for your help. Fabio wrote: That's right: after pushing F6, replace acpi=off with clocksource=jiffies manually, then tell me if it works. -- Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/178896 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 178896] Re: Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10
One thing I forgot to mention: if you are able to install with acpi=off, you should also be able to boot with acpi=off. Try to: 1) Install from LiveCD with acpi=off 2) When the GRUB bootloader appears, use the arrow keys to select the desired boot option (typically the first) and press e 3) Go to the boot options row (it should be the second row) and press e again 4) Write acpi=off at the end of the line 5) Press ENTER (or ESC, i can't remember right now) to go back to the previous screen 6) Use the arrow keys to highlight the first row and press b to boot -- Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/178896 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 178896] Re: Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10
Fabio wrote: What happens if you use clocksource=jiffies instead of acpi=off? Thanks but I am not very competent with programming. How should I insert jiffies ? Write it on the line down the screen after making F6 ? I have put in french my problem (not solved) on the french Ubuntu forum (FAQ) saying : I have installed without any problem Ubuntu 7.04 on my desk computer ACER. With 7.10 or 8.04 or 8.10 : impossible. Even the choice check the CD makes a black screen. With 8.04 or 8.1, making twice F6 and acpi=off, I can run on the live CD, and when I decide Install it, it runs, and makes so far partition of the disk. Then the programm asks : make restart and then I have on the screen : starting up... and black screen with blinking dash, and keyboard or mouse are out of work. When I do it again making escape and safe starting, then it runs writing many lines and stop after the line : [ 22.637118] io scheduler cfq registered (default) Thanks if you can further help me -- Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/178896 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 178896] Re: Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10
What happens if you use clocksource=jiffies instead of acpi=off? -- Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/178896 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 178896] Re: Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10
** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = Confirmed -- Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/178896 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 178896] Re: Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10
is this still an issue with intrepid? ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu) Status: New = Incomplete -- Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/178896 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 178896] Re: Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10
Yes, I still have black screen with Intrepid when I try to load it on my disc having still Ubuntu 7.04, either with live CD or with Alternate. I tried to reload and I made twice F6 on first panel. Then I selected acpi=off Then I could load Intrepid, but when restarting it stopped after writing some lines and I could do nothing. I regret to say that having eliminated Vista, I could easiley load Ubuntu 7.04. But after, impossible to load : - 7.10 - 8.04.1 - 8.10 I would be glad to have some help for moving to Intrepid (but I am not competent for programming !) Thanks : D. Larcher Michael Nagel a écrit : is this still an issue with intrepid? ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu) Status: New = Incomplete -- Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/178896 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 178896] Re: Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10
** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu) Sourcepackagename: None = linux -- Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/178896 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 178896] Re: Impossible restart after updating Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10
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