[Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
This is no more a supported version; and grub legacy upstream is also stopped, only receiving possible random fixes locally ** Changed in: grub (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Invalid ** Changed in: grub (Baltix) Status: New = Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/3339 Title: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/3339/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
** Changed in: grub (Baltix) Status: Invalid = New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/3339 Title: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/3339/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
** Changed in: grub (Baltix) Status: New = Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/3339 Title: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/3339/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
@MichealH: please only assign yourself to bugs that you are *actively* working on a resolution. ** Changed in: grub (Ubuntu) Assignee: MichealH (michealh) = (unassigned) -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/3339 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
I have nominated this for Maverick anyone think that we could get it in Maverick? -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/3339 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
Bug nominations are for backporting a released fix into previous releases through a Stable Release Update. Since all valid bugs are candidates to be fixed in the current development release, there is no need to nominate for it. Moreover, if you assign the bug to yourself, you are signaling that you are taking care of the bug so that no other developers need to look at it. If you are interested in more information, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment is a good starting point. -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/3339 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
Thus may/will be submitted for lucid +1 as I missed the Feature Freeze On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Nizar Kerkeni niza...@nizarus.org wrote: @Collin : and the new theme is planned for lucid or lucid+1 ? -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/3339 You received this bug notification because you are a bug assignee. Status in “grub” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “grub” package in Baltix: New Bug description: After installation, the OpenSUSE 10 grub puts up a jpeg background, has an animated count down, pop up help, scrolling menus and is generally rather beautiful. It would be great if Ubuntu could also use this deluxe grub where possible too. -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/3339 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
(My name is Colin, not Collin, BTW - copy and paste may help.) Not Lucid. I hope to be able to make some improvements in Lucid+1, but we're in the early stages of planning for that release so I can't say for certain yet. -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/3339 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
@Collin : and the new theme is planned for lucid or lucid+1 ? -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/3339 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
I have made the patch for Ubuntu 9.10 and Up (a.k.a Grub2) Just download and Install this script. Keep it in a safe place! http://dl.dropbox.com/u/983756/install-grub-ubuntu.sh Have fun (Its not animated though and Its my first release) ** Changed in: grub (Ubuntu) Status: In Progress = Fix Released -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/3339 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
@Micheal_2009: thanks for your contribution. The bug isn't fixed, though: it's only fixed when it'll be distributed through the normal updates of Ubuntu. So I hope that your proposed fix will be good enough for approval by the developers. ** Changed in: grub (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Released = Confirmed -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/3339 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
Thanks for your contribution, which you're of course welcome to distribute separately, but I don't think we'll distribute it as part of the grub2 package and it would not solve this bug even if we did. The request is for something a little more sophisticated than a background image, which will be provided based on gfxmenu. As I said, Jo Shields has been working on a suitable theme in cooperation with upstream. -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/3339 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 01:55:48PM -, Jean-Paul wrote: @Colin: Ok, thanks for clearing that up. I'm also glad to see that Canonical finally understands that it isn't always the best option to bluntly *hide* grub2. Neither I nor the Canonical design team should be equated with Canonical as a whole. In any case, what Ubuntu does by default isn't the same as what users should be able to configure, and I think we've all always recognised that. That isn't necessarily the same as giving the configuration high priority, of course ... It's actually a community contributor, Jo Shields, who's been working on Ubuntu theming for GRUB's gfxmenu. -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/3339 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
micheal-harker, I don't recall seeing a patch for this from you. You should only set bugs to in-progress and assign them to yourself if you're actually committing to get a patch through the sponsorship process. Otherwise, please respect Steve Langasek's change and leave this unassigned. Jean-Paul: Sure, GRUB 2 supports setting a background image, but this is hardly deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub per the bug title! There has been upstream progress on getting gfxmenu landed in GRUB 2; *that* will be the solution to this bug, not a background image. It may not be for Lucid, but it will happen. -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/3339 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
@Colin: Ok, thanks for clearing that up. I'm also glad to see that Canonical finally understands that it isn't always the best option to bluntly *hide* grub2. Animated grub2 + plymouth (+ KMS - capable graphics drivers) + gnome 3.x / kde 4.x = a very nice desktop experience =) Since I haven't heard of any concrete plans of animating Ubuntu's grub2 before this moment, I'll simply assume it will end up happening for Lucid+1. -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/3339 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
** Changed in: grub (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = Micheal_2009 (micheal-harker) ** Changed in: grub (Ubuntu) Status: New = Confirmed -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/3339 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
@Colin Watson: There already *is* an upstream-supported solution: grub2 has support for gfx, which currently is as easy as editing 3 lines (1 for the background image, 2 for the menu text colors) in /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme. I know this because I've done it. If a proper background image is made by the Canonical design team and appropriate text colors are used this could fairly easy be fixed I think. -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/3339 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
Oh sorry for posting twice in a row but I plainly forgot about this: No matter how short Ubuntu's total boot time is supposed to be, for dual-boot systems (which is a non-negligible part of Ubuntu's user-base I think) a nice graphical boot screen will always be a want-to-have feature, and a text-only boot menu will continue to scare especially people new to Linux away. -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/3339 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
** Changed in: grub (Ubuntu) Assignee: Micheal_2009 (micheal-harker) = (unassigned) -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/3339 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
** Changed in: grub (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = In Progress ** Changed in: grub (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = Micheal_2009 (micheal-harker) -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/3339 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
** Changed in: grub (Ubuntu) Assignee: Chuck Short (zulcss) = (unassigned) -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/3339 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 06:11:40PM -, will_in_wi wrote: Created another bug report suggesting said improvement: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/386047 Thanks. Now that grub2 is the default, do we want to mark this as wontfix, or migrate this bug report to the grub2 component? I doubt that we'll take the gfxboot approach, but grub2 has its own graphics support and so I expect that we'll eventually get something based on that (although we will still be aiming to have a silent boot loader by default). I much prefer the idea of an upstream-supported solution here. Even if we weren't going to do it, I'd rather leave this bug open; enough people have been asking for it that, if I closed it, somebody would just file it again anyway. :-) -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/3339 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
I am happy to see that this gets included (actually I saw it yesterday in the newletter). I agree with will_in_wi, a smooth transition of the different stages would be great. Even if we neglect the grub2 part, the rest could still be more in sync :-) by the way this is definitely not a killer feature as noone will switch from winblows or macosx to linux because the startup is nice but it would still be great to have. i'm very much looking forward to the implementation! (maybe there could be a theme contest or so?) -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/3339 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 03:27:58AM -, will_in_wi wrote: I am not familiar with this, but is it possible to integrate the recently merged kernel mode switching code into grub2? GRUB 2 does not use the Linux kernel at all; it is not possible to integrate Linux kernel modesetting directly. GRUB 2 has its own graphical terminal support. The best we can do is to ensure that GRUB 2 remains in graphical mode on exit (currently, it unconditionally switches back to text mode) if we're booting a kernel with modesetting support, or perhaps simply a new enough kernel that knows what to do. However, I would very much appreciate it if that were addressed in a *separate* bug report; it is not really directly related to this one. -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/3339 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
Created another bug report suggesting said improvement: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/386047 Now that grub2 is the default, do we want to mark this as wontfix, or migrate this bug report to the grub2 component? -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/3339 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
grub2 is now the default in karmic, so it will be fairly easy for newer versions of ubuntu to do this. however, now that 10 second boot is a priority for karmic+1, it seems like the idea is to make grub2 as invisible as possible anyway. -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/3339 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
I am not familiar with this, but is it possible to integrate the recently merged kernel mode switching code into grub2? I am thinking that the bios finishes, grub appears with a ubuntu themed background and offers a pretty menu (assuming you dual boot). On selecting Ubuntu, without a mode switch, the menu gives way to the same background with a starting bar on it. Which gives way to GDM and offers a login screen. Ideally, all of these stages would have the same overall theme and would just be displaying different widgets on the screen. For bonus points have the widgets fade in and out. Is this possible? It appears that the kernel is now handling some mysterious thing called mode switching. Having little clue what that means beyond setting the resolution, is it possible for grub to switch the mode the first time and then hand off control to the kernel without the kernel having to reset the mode? I may be asking a silly question due to no understanding of the tech involved, but I am trying to advance this bug report. This bug was originally filed as a SUSE has it, we should bug. For various reasons, it keeps getting put off. Perhaps, we should make a semi-final decision on this, or perhaps use it as an opportunity to raise the bar entirely. The SABDFL talks about being more visually pleasing than Apple. This would be a killer feature. -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/3339 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
** Also affects: grub (Baltix) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/3339 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
I am aware that it is not feasible for Hardy, and perhaps not even Intrepid to use, but Grub 2 will have graphical boot support out of the box: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/grub-2.en.html So perhaps a more temporary solution would suffice? -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/3339 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
grub2 has been available in Ubuntu for a while, and anyone interested and adventurous can install the package (which replaces the old grub loader). The Hardy package is in pretty good shape, but the Gutsy package is so outdated that I can not recommend it. The more people test it, the better. All development is done in grub2, and few (if any) developers want to waste time on the old grub. -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/3339 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
In that case I just might try it out in a vm or something, and if it's stable enough for me, I'll switch to it instead of grub. -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/3339 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
I agree that this should be taken into consideration. I'm using Ubuntu on dual-boot with Windows, and a nicer bootloader would definitely be a plus - also for new users, who like eye-candy :) Still noone working on this? -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/3339 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
@andrea : If I could vote for you being in the ubuntu design team, I would :-) . I agree 100% with what you said. -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/3339 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
fred: nobody's talking about a grub loader that can basically encrypt a file on your hdd or any other totally unnecessary feature. we're talking about an interface that is visually appealing and the success in this area that other distros have shows that it IS possible. if you're into minimalistic, sure, deactivate it. but if we're trying to make people switch from windows to the ubuntu family well then they're obviously gonna have a microsoft operating system running on the same computer so the grub menu WON'T be hidden, don't kid yourself. and well coming from windows they know one thing: great interface, crappy codebase ... grub's the other way around. why would you want to scare new users off with a great boot loader? for instance, they immediately think why in all the world do i now have two ubuntu's? (regular recovery) ?? etc. so WHY if they're supposed to make the switch make it harder? we, the people who are already in the know and everything could easily change it back to minimalistic/off (that is, invisible or so) ... still opposed? -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/3339 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
I disagree. I oppose this idea. A boot loader should be minimalistic and as simple as possible. A boot loader should be silent, stealthy and invisible. It should not be complex. It should be simple and efficient. It should get control from the hardware/BIOS then as soon as possible, pass control over to the kernel. No frills, no bling. -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/3339 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
you can hide grub, the grub that is now in ubuntu is not simply but ugly. There is the beauty and the simplicity, and example is gnome. we dont wont more advanced grub but more beauty grub -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/3339 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
@Colin 1) So if users want this feature, do they have any other option than to actually make a feature request? I don't think so. 2) According to the new brainstorm page, this feature is in high demand: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/21/ 3) The assurance you seek is allegedly impossible to achieve and yet other distributions have had this feature for a long time. 4) Without actually trying to use the available code/patches in a pilot programme, a test programme, like the one with NM 0.7, you won't get any feedback and bug reports, so that the alleged problems could be sorted out by paid-for Canonical employees if everyone else is for some reason unwilling to do this because of one reason or another. I think a nice boot menu is long overdue. 5) Of course, stable Ubuntu editions don't display the menu (currently Hardy devel gives 10 seconds of timeout though), but it would be *nice* to have this anyway. Ubuntu users dualboot, tripleboot and having a nice boot menu would be, again, *nice* both for brand recognition and overall polished feel. Sure it's no high priority, but it would be *nice*. -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/3339 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
** Tags added: iso-testing -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/3339 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
There is no need for a specification, bug nomination, or any of the other paraphernalia that people keep trying to apply to this. What is needed is a safe and well-tested set of patches, and assurance that it will not cause problems for any Ubuntu user. That assurance is very difficult to achieve, which is why I'm reluctant to do anything about this bug by default, particularly as we try not to show the grub menu by default anyway. At best, I think this should only be an option. -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/3339 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
I'm nominating this for Gutsy, it would be nice to have. -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/3339 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
Is this going into the version after feisty? -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/3339 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
I can see that on an edgy system: $ apt-cache search gfxboot gfxboot - bootlogo creator for gfxboot compliant boot loaders gfxboot-theme-ubuntu - Ubuntu theme for gfxboot-compliant boot loaders gfxboot-theme-nld - NLD theme for gfxboot-compliant boot loaders gfxboot-theme-sles - SLES theme for gfxboot-compliant boot loaders gfxboot-theme-suse - SuSE theme for gfxboot-compliant boot loaders Theres seems to be the necessary but it's not activated by default. I don't think this would happen in feisty as feisty is soon to be released. Please write a spec (https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+addspec) for feisty+1 -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://launchpad.net/bugs/3339 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
Any news of this for feisty? -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://launchpad.net/bugs/3339 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
Tormod: I don't think Bug #19251 is a duplicate of this one. That bug is mainly asking for old kernels to be removed when a new kernel is installed and mentions a prettier grub in passing. -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://launchpad.net/bugs/3339 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
Hi I will also like to have this. As a matter of fact, there's currently an unofficial deb in the forums with a patched grub with gfxboot support, so I think is is going to be a typical common customization for edgy and next releases... thanks -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://launchpad.net/bugs/3339 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
I've found patches in archlink against grub 0.97 here: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages/grub-gfxboot/grub-gfxboot/ -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://launchpad.net/bugs/3339 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
Based on C. Watson's comment, I don't think so. However, I would make a feature request, when the development on the next release starts (probably around January). https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+addspec -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://launchpad.net/bugs/3339 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 3339] Re: Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
Will there be another look at this after edgy or has this been permanently vetoed? -- Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub https://launchpad.net/bugs/3339 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
