[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-04-23 Thread Derek
Ok. I am pleased to say this has finally been resolved.
The last few things I tried.
http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Disabling_IPv6_under_a_2.6_kernel

Commenting out all references to ipv6 in hosts (shouldn't be necessary
but I was desperate)

#Disable IPv6
net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1
net.ipv6.conf.all.accept_ra=0
net.ipv6.conf.etho.accept_ra=0

In sysctl.conf - although sysctl didn't recognise any of 'em so I doubt
that was solution

I think it was that first link that recommends:
To disable IPv6 it should be as simple as adding the lines

alias net-pf-10 off
alias ipv6 off

to /etc/modprobe.d/00local (creating the file if it exists).

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-04-23 Thread Derek
FWIW, I spoke too soon, I can only imagine the couple of sites I tested
must have been cached by something else hitting 'em on login (ubuntu.com
perhaps due to ubuntu one, and local dev site due to a cron).  I'm still
getting slow lookups :(

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-04-22 Thread Derek
I've noticed multisecond delays since switching to Lucid.
I have two boxes here. Identical resolv.conf entries for local DNS.
The Karmic machine responds instantaneously, the Lucid one takes several 
seconds for uncached addresses.

If I run:
ltrace wget -O/dev/null http://domainwebserver/url/

And I haven't hit this webserver on our domain recently, I can see it hang for 
several seconds on getaddrinfo.
It then hangs again resolving the full name (domainwebserver.ourdomain.local) 
if a redirect is issued.

So far I've tried:
disabling ipv6 in sysctl.conf and as kernel param in grub.
replacing the hosts line in nsswitch.conf w/ only files dns  (the full hosts 
line in lucid works fine in karmic).

Uninstalling libnss-mdns.

Despite all this I repeatedly get hangs on getaddrinfo - other things
respond quickly, such as dig and nslookup.

The only improvement I've experienced (and this was also new to Lucid) was that 
after I removed:
mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return]  I no longer got complete failure to perform 
lookups.
That line appears to work fine in Karmic, with the exact same servers.

I've also tried adding or removing wins from the hosts line in nsswitch.conf in 
case that was why Karmic was fast.
No difference.  Whether wins was there or not, Karmic remained fast, and Lucid 
slow.

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-04-22 Thread Derek
Oh. One last note.  It appears that it isn't just local machines that are slow.
ltrace wget -O/dev/null http://www.ubuntu.com

Also hangs for several seconds on getaddrinfo

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Re: [Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-04-18 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Lucious Daniels Jr

| Apparently there is a regression in the ath5k driver affecting my card.
| I was able to fix my problem by using the Windows driver and
| ndiswrapper. Maybe worth a shot for anyone still having problems.

That is another bug than this one; _please_ don't clutter this bug with
reports about hardware and driver problems.

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Re: [Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-04-18 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Martin Pitt

| ipv6.disable=1 does not make any difference for me in Lucid (I haven't
| tested that with karmic, since the eglibc in karmic-updates fixed it)

That's interesting, since eglibc does iterate over configured network
interfaces and only sets seen_ipv6 if you have a non-IPv4 address which
is also not loopback

This suggests it's taking another code path from what I was assuming
from reading the code.

| Matthias Klose [2010-04-16  0:16 -]:
|  There's a eglibc testbuild prepared; it's tested to install and survive
|  a reboot; if you want to test it, please add to /etc/apt/sources.list:
|  
|deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-toolchain/ppa/ubuntu lucid main
| 
| Makes no difference here. Is that still the same patch as
| local-ipv6-lookup.diff in karmic-updates?

It's a somewhat simplified version which I believe should have worked,
but apparently doesn't.

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-04-18 Thread Lucious Daniels Jr
@Tollef Fog Heen # 276

My apologies, but I only comment on this bug because my original was
deleted (marked as a duplicate), and I was automatically (and
wrongfully) subscribed to this one. I thought it would be beneficial to
share my information with anyone else that was wrongfully subscribed to
this bug.

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Re: [Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-04-16 Thread Martin Pitt
Tollef Fog Heen [2010-04-14 20:15 -]:
 If it works fine with Karmic and works fine with Lucid with IPv6
 disabled, but is slow at resolving DNS with IPv6 enabled, that is this
 bug.

Oh, interesting. I have such a buggy router as well, and in karmic it
was fixed with local-ipv6-lookup.diff.

ipv6.disable=1 does not make any difference for me in Lucid (I haven't
tested that with karmic, since the eglibc in karmic-updates fixed it)

 In grub, add «ipv6.disable=1» after the line with loads the kernel (this
 one presumably ends with «quiet splash»).

The option was recognized, dmesg says IPv6: Loaded, but
administratively disabled, and ip a dropped the inet6 lines as
well. But the 20 second DNS resolution timeout still happens.

 Can you include the output of running «ip a» in your reply as well?
 Preferably both before and after disabling IPv6.

Before:
1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN 
link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
inet6 ::1/128 scope host 
   valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: eth0: NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP mtu 1500 qdisc mq state DOWN qlen 
1000
link/ether 00:1d:72:df:71:c3 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
3: wlan0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP qlen 1000
link/ether 00:17:c4:53:a9:f8 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
inet 192.168.2.109/24 brd 192.168.2.255 scope global wlan0
inet6 fe80::217:c4ff:fe53:a9f8/64 scope link 
   valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever

After:
1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN 
link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
2: eth0: NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP mtu 1500 qdisc mq state DOWN qlen 
1000
link/ether 00:1d:72:df:71:c3 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
3: wlan0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP qlen 1000
link/ether 00:17:c4:53:a9:f8 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
inet 192.168.2.109/24 brd 192.168.2.255 scope global wlan0

Matthias Klose [2010-04-16  0:16 -]:
 There's a eglibc testbuild prepared; it's tested to install and survive
 a reboot; if you want to test it, please add to /etc/apt/sources.list:
 
   deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-toolchain/ppa/ubuntu lucid main

Makes no difference here. Is that still the same patch as
local-ipv6-lookup.diff in karmic-updates?

The only workaround which works fine for me is to change DNS server. I
have a script /etc/network/if-up.d/0nameserver which overwrites
/etc/resolv.conf to use my providers' DNS servers instead of my
router.

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-04-16 Thread steve
** Changed in: eglibc (Ubuntu Lucid)
   Status: Triaged = Confirmed

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-04-16 Thread Steve Langasek
** Changed in: eglibc (Ubuntu Lucid)
   Status: Confirmed = Triaged

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-04-16 Thread Lucious Daniels Jr
Apparently there is a regression in the ath5k driver affecting my card.
I was able to fix my problem by using the Windows driver and
ndiswrapper. Maybe worth a shot for anyone still having problems.

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-04-15 Thread Matthias Klose
There's a eglibc testbuild prepared; it's tested to install and survive
a reboot; if you want to test it, please add to /etc/apt/sources.list:

  deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-toolchain/ppa/ubuntu lucid main

run apt-get update, apt-get install libc6 and report results here.

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-04-15 Thread Seth Hikari
I tried the new eglibc not really sure if it is working I see resolving
host last less time. Nothing exploded

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Re: [Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-04-14 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Matt Giuca

Hi,

| I understand that this is pretty much a bug in the *routers*, not in
| Ubuntu. The reason it's reported here on Launchpad and not in a thousand
| routers is because you're planning to implement a workaround in Ubuntu,
| right?

Yes (to both questions).

| What you are saying is, if I switch to another DNS server, then it *may
| not* be the same bug, but it *might* be (if my router is ignoring IPv6
| DNS requests, but the other DNS server is good). But it could be other
| problems with my router's DNS server besides IPv6.

If it works fine with Karmic and works fine with Lucid with IPv6
disabled, but is slow at resolving DNS with IPv6 enabled, that is this
bug.  If it's slow with IPv6 disabled, that's really interesting as
well.

| But if I disable IPv6 entirely, and the bug does not go away, then it is
| not this bug. (I haven't been able to disable IPv6 yet).

In grub, add «ipv6.disable=1» after the line with loads the kernel (this
one presumably ends with «quiet splash»).

Can you include the output of running «ip a» in your reply as well?
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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-04-13 Thread jordan.sc
This bug has been officially fixed for Karmic but not for Lucid. When
can we expect a fix for Lucid which is just 16 days from final release?

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-04-12 Thread Lucious Daniels Jr
Okay. I just gave wireshark a try. I'm not exactly sure what to post,
but to be clear on my problem. I click on a random link in my browser
and I get a Waiting for.. dialog in the status. This does not happen
every time, but is fairly regular, especially on specific sites, like
deviantart.com. Using wireshark during one of these hangs I see a lot
of:

[TCP Retransmission] GET

Then I see the ARP protocol will display [Who has 192.168.1.1 Tell
192.168.1.123] Which is my router IP and Laptop IP respectively.

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-04-11 Thread Lucious Daniels Jr
I'm still having this issue. Though I don't think it has to do with
ipv6. I've tried every fix I've come across...editing nsswitch,
disabling ipv6, open dns, still no luck. I even tried putting another
distro on the laptop (arch) and it too suffers the same problem, which
makes me think it's an issue with the newer kernel and/or the driver for
my particular wireless adapter. No problems at all on jaunty with the
same machine.

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-04-11 Thread Michael Schnupp
As you have both a working and a not working configuration, this makes
you the perfect candidate for giving more details on that problem.
Please give more details: What *exactly* is the problem you are talking
about?

Is it a problem while resolving a name to an IP address? (DNS)
Is it a problem connecting to the other host? (Syn, Ack, etc.)
Or is it a problem while beeing connected in some kind of TCP session? 
(bandwidth, etc.)

If you are not sure, please use wireshark to monitor your connection. (All 
phases above are visible there and their timing.)
Please do so on the working and not working system and report the 
difference.

But since you are pretty sure it has *nothing* to do with IPv6, it is almost 
certainly another bug.
So *please* open a new bug and give only a pointer to the new bug here.

Hopefully this will finally bring some light on the cause of that issue.
:)

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-04-11 Thread Matt Giuca
Sorry to add to the noise a bit, but I just want to get the scope of this bug 
clear. I certainly have *a bug* but I can't figure out if it is this one or 
not. In the description, it says
If disabling IPv6 or using good DNS servers like openDNS fixes the problem, 
you are not dealing with this bug.

Does not dealing with this bug mean you have another bug which is
unrelated to this, or does it mean you have this bug, but that isn't a
valid fix for it. Maybe we can get this text cleared up to avoid all
this confusion about who has the bug and who doesn't.

It also says
Routers which do not repond [sic] to this cause the lookup to take 20 seconds

The latter quote seems to imply that the bug will appear for certain DNS
servers (e.g., a router), but not others (e.g., proper Internet DNS
servers). Therefore, if using a good DNS server like openDNS fixes the
problem, why am I not dealing with the bug? The bug only shows up on
certain DNS servers; changing my DNS server is a workaround, but surely
it implies I have this same bug.

I have the iiNet BoB router, which is giving me 20 second DNS lookup
delays. Changing my DNS settings (in resolv.conf) to a public DNS server
(in this case, using my ISP's DNS server) fixes the problem immediately
in all apps. So is this the bug, or should I be reporting another one?

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-04-11 Thread Michael Schnupp
Ok, you have a bug. But are you sure it is a bug in Ubuntu?
Do you have any other OS working correctly with the same router?

Please have a look at your network traffic. (Wireshark is nice for
this.)

*This* bug goes like this:
Ubuntu: Hey router, what is IPv6 address of example.com?
Router: (ignores that question and does not answer at all)
Ubuntu: (waits for an answer for some seconds and finally...)
Ubuntu: Ok, I assume you don't have one. Then do you have any IPv4 address of 
example.com?
Router: (answering immediately) Sure, here you are.

With disabled IPv6 Ubuntu does only ask for a IPv4 address and the problem is 
no longer visible.
If your bug does not go away after disabling IPv6 it is *not* this bug.

Please investigate where your delay comes from. Is it really the router not 
answering at all? Does it really involve IPv6?
Is there really something Ubuntu can do to fix this? (i.e. are there other OS 
which do?)

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-04-11 Thread Matt Giuca
My comment wasn't really to add to the bug report, but mostly to try and
clarify the bug's description. I am very confused about whether this is
my bug, and the bug description doesn't really help, as it contains a
confusing statement which makes me unsure about whether I have the bug.

I understand that this is pretty much a bug in the *routers*, not in
Ubuntu. The reason it's reported here on Launchpad and not in a thousand
routers is because you're planning to implement a workaround in Ubuntu,
right?

What you are saying is, if I switch to another DNS server, then it *may
not* be the same bug, but it *might* be (if my router is ignoring IPv6
DNS requests, but the other DNS server is good). But it could be other
problems with my router's DNS server besides IPv6.

But if I disable IPv6 entirely, and the bug does not go away, then it is
not this bug. (I haven't been able to disable IPv6 yet).

I should have said in my last comment that this bug is new to me in
Lucid Beta. It was working fine in Karmic with the exact same setup
(same laptop, same router). It works fine in Windows XP. It still works
fine with any other router. So it's clearly a combination of this router
and Lucid that is a problem *for me*. I'm not asking for help here
(since I've already worked around the issue), just trying to figure out
if I am having the same bug (so I can be useful, and provide you with
socket dumps) or if it isn't (so I can get out of your hair). I will
experiment with disabling IPv6 and looking at Wireshark tonight.

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-03-21 Thread Mack
Fix for karmic doesn't work for me.

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-03-20 Thread eris23
Still a problem in the Ubuntu 10.04 Beta 1 live dvd.  I had to disable
ipv6 in Firefox.

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-03-19 Thread B.B. Lauret
Got this issue after upgrading to lucid today. On karmic I did not have
this problem.

I've attached the output of
time dig -t a noc.sixxs.net +nofail | grep -e status -e A -e time
time dig -t  noc.sixxs.net +nofail | grep -e status -e  -e time
time getent hosts www.sixxs.net

** Attachment added: output.txt
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/4194/output.txt

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-03-12 Thread Hillshum
** Description changed:

  In Karmic, DNS lookups take a very long time with some routers, because
  glibc's DNS resolver tries to do IPv6 () lookups even if there are
  no (non-loopback) IPv6 interfaces configured. Routers which do not
  repond to this cause the lookup to take 20 seconds (until the IPv6 query
  times out).
  
  *** PLEASE DO NOT COMMENT ON THIS BUG unless you have something
  constructive to say. Everything that can be said has already been said,
  and if you comment, you are just adding noise. Please let those that
  actually know what they are doing concentrate on fixing this bug from
  now on. ***
  
- If disabling IPv6 or using good DNS servers like openDNS does fixes the
+ If disabling IPv6 or using good DNS servers like openDNS fixes the
  problem, you are not dealing with this bug. Please refrain from
  complaining here in that case

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-03-10 Thread Emmet Hikory
** Tags added: ipv6

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-03-09 Thread cheerios_
Still getting slow Internet (hardly anything responds), on Karmic (even
with OpenDNS -- not a DNS issue!): http://pastebin.org/107680 All tips
and pointers appreciated on how to troubleshoot. Frustrating part is,
sometimes connections work fine for a while, then all stops responding.

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2010-03-09 Thread Hillshum
** Description changed:

  In Karmic, DNS lookups take a very long time with some routers, because
  glibc's DNS resolver tries to do IPv6 () lookups even if there are
  no (non-loopback) IPv6 interfaces configured. Routers which do not
  repond to this cause the lookup to take 20 seconds (until the IPv6 query
  times out).
  
  *** PLEASE DO NOT COMMENT ON THIS BUG unless you have something
  constructive to say. Everything that can be said has already been said,
  and if you comment, you are just adding noise. Please let those that
  actually know what they are doing concentrate on fixing this bug from
  now on. ***
+ 
+ If disabling IPv6 or using good DNS servers like openDNS does fixes the
+ problem, you are not dealing with this bug. Please refrain from
+ complaining here in that case

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Re: [Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-03-08 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 07:01:53AM -, Ricardo Fernández wrote:
 What part of disabling IPv6 doesn't fix this issue you didn't read?
 seriously, I'm starting to get tired of saying this didn't fix the bug
 for me, and few others keep saying the same, are you guys really not
 reading the posts? Just because the status was changed to Fixed
2 doesn't mean it is really fixed if people are still getting the same
 problems.

Conversely, having the same symptoms (and as much as anyone has shown
here since the fix for this bug was verified is that their network is
slow, which is a very broad symptom) doesn't mean this bug isn't fixed.

You say you've disabled ipv6.  How did you do this?  Do you have network
traces showing that eglibc is still sending the wrong DNS queries?

I have personally retested the karmic version of libc6 in response to your
message here.  The bug described in this report is fixed - a system with no
routable ipv6 addresses will not generate  DNS queries with libc6
2.10.1-0ubuntu16 installed.  So whatever problem you're seeing should be
tracked in a separate bug report.

 And don't tell me it is fixed because otherwise i wouldn't be posting
 here don't you think ?

No offense, but experience shows that with high-profile bugs where the
symptom is described in such general terms as is the case here, users *very
frequently* follow up when the problem they're experiencing has nothing to
do with the bug report in question.

 Really c'mon guys, why it is so hard? If it is fixed for you, nice!
 congratulations! now move along, we have people here that still have
 problems (including myself).

If it's fixed for them, then it's almost 100% certain that people still
experiencing problems have a different bug.  Different bug - different bug
report.

(If you're reading this because you *did* file a separate bug and your bug
was marked as a duplicate of this one, then that was a mistake and we should
correct that status.  Unfortunately, Launchpad's UI doesn't make it easy to
figure out which commenters in a bug report filed which duplicates, and
encourages users to all follow up to the master bug.)

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-03-07 Thread Laurent Bigonville
For those who still affected by slowdown did you try what is proposed at
comment 134 ?

time dig -t a noc.sixxs.net +nofail | grep -e status -e A -e time
time dig -t  noc.sixxs.net +nofail | grep -e status -e  -e time

And also

time getent hosts www.sixxs.net

And post the result?

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-03-06 Thread Ricardo Fernández
I'm still having the same issue while trying to use any web browser,
takes forever to resolve a name, have to reload every page twice until I
get it.

I have ipv6 disable:

cat /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/disable_ipv6
1

Also Firefox have IPv6 Disabled.

But tcpdump still report IP6 stuff:

04:34:16.007477 IP6 fe80::c1f:dc31:a82c:435e.57503  ff02::c.1900: UDP, length 
146
04:34:19.913100 IP6 fe80::c1f:dc31:a82c:435e.57503  ff02::c.1900: UDP, length 
146
04:34:20.409483 IP6 fe80::226:69ff:fe65:da00  ip6-allrouters: ICMP6, router 
solicitation, length 16
04:38:04.515848 IP6 fe80::c1f:dc31:a82c:435e.546  ff02::1:2.547: dhcp6 solicit

I don't know if they are related. 
This happen with WiFi and Wired cable.

I don't know what else to do to post more info about this bug, and as
some other are reported in this same bug we need some directions, in my
opinion it isn't Fixed. I don't have this problem in debian, fedora and
centos (the other 3 distros i use), it is only happening in Ubuntu 9.10
and 10.04 (Same Laptop, tested with all the other distros), 8.04, 8.10,
9.04 doesn't have this problem.

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Re: [Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-03-06 Thread Philipp Kern
On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 09:13:38AM -, Ricardo Fernández wrote:
 04:34:16.007477 IP6 fe80::c1f:dc31:a82c:435e.57503  ff02::c.1900: UDP, 
 length 146
 04:34:19.913100 IP6 fe80::c1f:dc31:a82c:435e.57503  ff02::c.1900: UDP, 
 length 146
 04:34:20.409483 IP6 fe80::226:69ff:fe65:da00  ip6-allrouters: ICMP6, router 
 solicitation, length 16
 04:38:04.515848 IP6 fe80::c1f:dc31:a82c:435e.546  ff02::1:2.547: dhcp6 
 solicit

At least the c1f one does not look like EUI-64 and thus rather like
Windows using IPv6 privacy addresses.  For the third line it would be
helpful to see the output of ip -6 addr, but it's also possible that
it's not the Linux box but another one on the segment.

Kind regards,
Philipp Kern

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Re: [Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-03-06 Thread Ricardo Fernández
2010/3/6 Philipp Kern phil+launch...@philkern.de:
 On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 09:13:38AM -, Ricardo Fernández wrote:
 04:34:16.007477 IP6 fe80::c1f:dc31:a82c:435e.57503  ff02::c.1900: UDP, 
 length 146
 04:34:19.913100 IP6 fe80::c1f:dc31:a82c:435e.57503  ff02::c.1900: UDP, 
 length 146
 04:34:20.409483 IP6 fe80::226:69ff:fe65:da00  ip6-allrouters: ICMP6, router 
 solicitation, length 16
 04:38:04.515848 IP6 fe80::c1f:dc31:a82c:435e.546  ff02::1:2.547: dhcp6 
 solicit

 At least the c1f one does not look like EUI-64 and thus rather like
 Windows using IPv6 privacy addresses.  For the third line it would be
 helpful to see the output of ip -6 addr, but it's also possible that
 it's not the Linux box but another one on the segment.

I disabled IPv6 at the kernel source, make a new kernel without IPv6
at all, and I'm still getting those messages, so my guess is that
those are other machines as you suggest (my home network).

The browsers (any of them, firefox, chrome, epiphany, lynx, elinks)
still takes to much to resolv a name and download the content of it,
apt get stuck sometimes while updating, haven't tried anything else.

Anything else I can do to debug this problem ? so far it seems it is
this bug, but the release fixed doesn't work for me (and all the other
installation I've done over my work network).

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-03-06 Thread Yermo
@Ricardo Fernández As I mention above, in my case, after disabling IPV6,
I still had the same symptoms. Terribly long delays making any kind of
network connections (all wired). I noticed here that it seemed to be
related to making more than one network connection at a time.

Based on forum posts elsewhere, I upgraded the firmware on my D-Link 707
switch/firewall and then suddenly all network problems disappeared.

Of course, CentOS, WinXP, Win2K and Ubuntu 8.04 never had a problem with
the router, so I'm not sure why this fixed the issue.

But unfortunately, I've wasted too much time on Ubuntu 9.10 problems.
It's been by far the buggiest least reliable error prone distribution
I've ever come across (been developing software using Linux
professionally since early 1993). This is also the very first time I've
been unable to find good information on how work around issues that come
up despite having put in some serious effort. (Sound, anyone?) It's open
source after all and I've offered to help track these issues down, but
got no useful response.

So I've bailed. I'm running Fedora Core 12 now. Everything works as it
should.

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Re: [Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-03-06 Thread Hillshum
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Yermo y...@yml.com wrote:

 @Ricardo Fernández As I mention above, in my case, after disabling IPV6,
 I still had the same symptoms. Terribly long delays making any kind of
 network connections (all wired). I noticed here that it seemed to be
 related to making more than one network connection at a time.



If disabling IPv6 fixes the issue, you aren't dealing with this bug. Please
open a new one if need be

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-03-06 Thread Yermo
@Hillshum re-read what I wrote. Disabling IPV6 /does not/ resolve the
symtpom.

But for me it no longer matters. I've bailed and switched to Fedora Core
12. It works.

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Re: [Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-03-06 Thread Ricardo Fernández
 @Ricardo Fernández As I mention above, in my case, after disabling IPV6,
 I still had the same symptoms. Terribly long delays making any kind of
 network connections (all wired). I noticed here that it seemed to be
 related to making more than one network connection at a time.



 If disabling IPv6 fixes the issue, you aren't dealing with this bug. Please
 open a new one if need be

What part of disabling IPv6 doesn't fix this issue you didn't read?
seriously, I'm starting to get tired of saying this didn't fix the bug
for me, and few others keep saying the same, are you guys really not
reading the posts? Just because the status was changed to Fixed
doesn't mean it is really fixed if people are still getting the same
problems.

Please tell me tools to give you more info, tell me what to do to help
the developers to find answers, tell me what do I do need to do to
debug the info you people need.

And don't tell me it is fixed because otherwise i wouldn't be posting
here don't you think ?

Really c'mon guys, why it is so hard? If it is fixed for you, nice!
congratulations! now move along, we have people here that still have
problems (including myself).

No offense, but dealing with Fedora bugzilla and people there is more
easy than dealing with the ubuntu community and developers, here i
have to say around 50 times why it isn't fixed for me and people still
don't belive it, thats just amaizing.

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-03-06 Thread Yermo
@Ricardo: Amen.

Ubuntu is a nice end-user-friendly distribution. I respect what they
are trying to do. But there comes a point where bailing is the only
sensible option. Fedora Core 12 works like a champ. Networking works.
Sound works. Package management works. Java works. OpenOffice works.
etc. And I've noticed the same thing you have. The quality of technical
posts for Fedora Core is definitely much higher than what I've seen in
Ubuntu. I'm not sure why. It's all Linux after all. I guess Fedora
attracts a more technical crowd and they seem, at least for the moment,
to be much more focused on solving problems.

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-03-03 Thread Martin Pitt
Please pretty please STOP changing the status of this bug!

** Changed in: eglibc (Ubuntu Karmic)
   Status: In Progress = Fix Released

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-03-03 Thread Ricardo Fernández
I was wondering something, If a Fix was Released, and if it doesn't work
(as reported by almost all users since the release), what we should do?
Open a new bug ticket?

I'm not changing the status or anything, but it is kinda lame that the
status can't be reverted because the fix doesn't work at all. After the
Fix was Released no one at Ubuntu have been trying to reach the users
to see what is going on, they just check that the bug is fixed and
thats it; is there no need to check the feedback?

This Bug is _NOT_ fixed at all, check the comments from the people, it
didn't do the job, they are still delays on resolving names and the
browser takes few seconds before opening webpages, this same is
happening on 10.04 right now.

I guess this bug will be like the VNC client on Ubuntu (the one
installed by default on gnome, vinillo), 4 releases of Ubuntu and still
doesn't work at all, no one can even use it, and still there was a Fix
Released.

*sigh*

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Re: [Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-03-03 Thread Mark Schouten
On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 13:36 +, Ricardo Fernández wrote:
 I was wondering something, If a Fix was Released, and if it doesn't work
 (as reported by almost all users since the release), what we should do?
 Open a new bug ticket?

No, you should try to determine if the problem you are experiencing is
the same problem as the problem described in this bug.

If you still have issues (which you shouldn't have, since *this* bug is
fixed), try to debug and find which problem you are experiencing.

This problem is about trying to get -records on machines that don't
even have any IPv6 connectivity. (devs, please correct me if needed). If
you tcpdump your interface, and see no -queries, this bug is not
your problem, but there might be another problem.

So, if you still experience issues. Try using wired networks instead of
wireless (I myself have crappy wireless performance with Karmic and a
Linksys interface), tcpdump your interface to see what happens. Etc etc
etc.

 I guess this bug will be like the VNC client on Ubuntu (the one
 installed by default on gnome, vinillo), 4 releases of Ubuntu and still
 doesn't work at all, no one can even use it, and still there was a Fix
 Released.

Never heard of Vinillo, but ok. That's not what this bug is about. :)

Regards,

Mark

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-03-03 Thread jordan.sc
I have 3 PCs (1 wired, 2 wireless) on my local home network running
Karmic that were all affected by the IPv6 issue described here. The
released fix worked for all 3 PCs. There are no more delays -
performance is comparable to 9.04, Mandriva with IPv6 turned off, and
Windows XP/7. I know of several other folks who had this issue and the
fix worked for them as well. My wireless cards are Atheros and Ralink,
and my router is a Netgear RP614.

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Re: [Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-03-03 Thread Hillshum
This bug is about Ubuntu dealing with bad DNS servers that don't understand
 (IPv6) queries. Before claiming this isn't fixed, please make sure that
bad DNS servers are in fact the issue. If disabling IPv6  lookups in
Firefox fixes the issue, then you are dealing with this bug. If switching to
good DNS servers like those of openDNS or Google fixes the issue, then you
are dealing with this bug. If switching from wireless to wired* on the same
LAN* fixes the issue, then you are not dealing with this bug.

Please don't change the status of this bug unless you are sure that you have
issues with IPv6 DNS lookups.
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On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 7:09 AM, jordan.sc jordan...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have 3 PCs (1 wired, 2 wireless) on my local home network running
 Karmic that were all affected by the IPv6 issue described here. The
 released fix worked for all 3 PCs. There are no more delays -
 performance is comparable to 9.04, Mandriva with IPv6 turned off, and
 Windows XP/7. I know of several other folks who had this issue and the
 fix worked for them as well. My wireless cards are Atheros and Ralink,
 and my router is a Netgear RP614.

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 Status in “eglibc” package in Ubuntu: Triaged
 Status in “network-manager” package in Ubuntu: Invalid
 Status in “eglibc” source package in Lucid: Triaged
 Status in “network-manager” source package in Lucid: Invalid
 Status in “eglibc” source package in Karmic: Fix Released
 Status in “network-manager” source package in Karmic: Invalid
 Status in “glibc” package in Fedora: Confirmed

 Bug description:
 In Karmic, DNS lookups take a very long time with some routers, because
 glibc's DNS resolver tries to do IPv6 () lookups even if there are no
 (non-loopback) IPv6 interfaces configured. Routers which do not repond to
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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-03-03 Thread Marius
I had this bug in Karmic, and the fix definitely worked for me. However,
I installed Lucid Alpha 3 and the bug is BACK. I know its the same bug
because all of the workarounds for Karmic (Firefox disable IPv6, Grub
disable IPv6, etc...) fix it in Lucid.

I think people are frustrated because a) this bug is really annoying, b)
it took a long time to even acknowledge that it was something that
needed fixing, and c) we don't want to see TWO consecutive release
version of Ubuntu have unusable internet out-of-the-box.

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-03-02 Thread anavarrog
I agree with Ricardo Fernández and Yermo. This problem is not fixed. I'm
still experiencing it in every wireless network i try to connect any of
my laptops using ubuntu/kubuntu karmic. Airports, libraries, museums...
always the same problem. I've stopped using linux in laptops because of
this crap.

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-03-02 Thread Ashkan_Akhavein
@ anyone concerned/responsible/capable :

PLEASE DO NOT LET THIS GET INTO THE FINAL RELEASE OF LUCID.

Thank you very much.


P.S. I think karma have dealt the Koala a losing hand.
Hope something better for the Lynx.

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-03-02 Thread Martin Pitt
** Changed in: eglibc (Ubuntu Karmic)
   Status: In Progress = Fix Released

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-03-02 Thread The Master
** Changed in: eglibc (Ubuntu Karmic)
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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-03-01 Thread The Master
** Changed in: eglibc (Ubuntu Karmic)
   Status: Fix Released = Fix Committed

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-03-01 Thread cheerios_
I kept having issues even after the fix was released until poking into 
NetworkManager settings for the wireless connection in use
(in my case: /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/Auto\ godel), and changing 
all the settings below method=ignore to 'true'. Somehow method=ignore wasn't 
enough to disable ipv6 lookups.

BEFORE:
[ipv6]
method=ignore
ignore-auto-routes=false
ignore-auto-dns=false
never-default=false

AFTER:
[ipv6]
method=ignore
ignore-auto-routes=true
ignore-auto-dns=true
never-default=true

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-03-01 Thread Steve Langasek
** Changed in: eglibc (Ubuntu Karmic)
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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-03-01 Thread Ricardo Fernández
This bug is far from fixed, there was a fix committed but it didn't do
anything, they are still lot of people complaining (including myself of
course), and it seems it still happening in 10.04.

I don't know how you guys are testing this, but so far, I'm still
getting DNS delays and the browser takes a lot sometimes to resolve and
open a webpage.

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-03-01 Thread The Master
** Changed in: eglibc (Ubuntu Karmic)
   Status: Fix Released = Incomplete

** Changed in: eglibc (Ubuntu Karmic)
   Status: Incomplete = In Progress

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Re: [Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-02-23 Thread strel
I have a wired connection. And I recently changed my modem to a much newer
one. I've been having issues recently, which seemed to spawn from an updated
vbox. I have ubuntu running as quest on windows 7. After the update of vbox,
my connection would be very strange, at start up of Firefox, everything
would load. After couple seconds or so, the connection would grind to a
halt. Recently, I activate IPV6 on Firefox, and the problem has gotten much
much better, but not completely alleviated. Some pages are constantly trying
to load, but never get there. But thats much better than before. Before I
switched the flag in Firefox, pretty much all the pages would be stuck in
load mode, it was so frustrating.

Specs:
Windows 7 with ubuntu guest through vbox
wired connection straight to the modem, nothing in between.

Windows 7 seems to work fine
Ubuntu seems like there are some issues still.


On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Yermo y...@yml.com wrote:

 @Laurent No. Wired connection exclusively.

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-02-22 Thread Yermo
@Laurent yes. /ALL/ network access regardless of application is
affected. Please re-read the report I wrote. Yes, this has nothing to do
with the IPv6 DNS lookup problem. IPV6  record lookup was one issue
that would cause the slow connections so many people are experiencing.
My point is that while the IPv6 lookup issue has been resolved, it is
not the only cause of the slow dns lookup/connection symptoms people are
experiencing.

As I have said, IPV6 is /disabled/ on my machine via grub. IPV6 is
disabled in firefox. IPV6 IS NOT THE SOLE REASON FOR SLOW DNS AND
NETWORK CONNECTION IN UBUNTU. i have verified this here. Maybe it should
be listed as a separate bug, but none of the other bugs I have found (of
which there are many) seem to match the symptoms I'm seeing here
exactly.

Slow dns lookups. DNS lookup failure 30% of the time or so. Connection
failure 30% of the time or so. Extremely slow net connectivity over a
wired connections. I've tried every combination of work around I could
find on the net to no avail.

Then I upgraded the firmware on my DI-707 router and suddenly the
problem disappears. The confusing thing is that Ubuntu 8.04, WinXp and
EVERY SINGLE DISTRIBUTION BEFORE had no issue with this router. It seems
to be restricted to recent 2.6 kernels.

I had read somewhere, I'm sorry I have forgotten where, that there was
some TCP/IP standards issue that someone had decided to implement too
strictly in recent kernels which caused connections through many legacy
routers/switches/firewalls to fail (which is why I tried the firmware
upgrade).

At this point, for me, the problem seems to be solved, but I have the
feeling that there are many Ubuntu users out there that are still
suffering from slow/failing dns lookups and the IPV6 issue does not
explain all of them.

There is still some network level problem.

But like I said, the firmware upgrade on my DI-707 seems to have worked
around whatever problem Ubuntu has.

I'm reporting this in an attempt to be helpful; too often in my own
software business customers who are running into trouble with our
software simply don't report their experiences so we have no idea that
there's a problem.

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-02-22 Thread Laurent Bigonville
Sorry I lost track in all these comments.

I think it could be interesting to open a new bug report for that then
so we don't mix everything, but it will be quite hard to track down the
issue as it seems fixed for you :/

Anyway thanks for reporting bug as it helps to make Ubuntu (and
GNU/Linux) better

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-02-22 Thread Yermo
@Laurent Yes, I was thinking the same thing since it's now fixed for me.

However, if you do some searches, even in the Ubuntu forums I think,
you'll find dozens if not hundreds of posts from people saying they
turned off IPV6 but still had slow lookups/connectivity. There was one
thread somewhere where it was mentioned that this was due to
Ubuntu/Linux now implementing some standard (I don't know which one)
more rigidly than many router/switch manufacturers. That was the reason
I thought to upgrade the firmware in the DI-707.

Doing a quick search I find:

http://superuser.com/questions/67686/internet-very-slow-when-upgrading-
to-ubuntu-9-10 (3rd comment)

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8758456 (5th post)

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-02-22 Thread Laurent Bigonville
Are you connected by wifi?

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-02-22 Thread Yermo
@Laurent No. Wired connection exclusively.

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-02-21 Thread Yermo
@Laurent Ok, I spent some more time researching this, playing with
various scenarios.

1. Fedore Core 12 running in VMWare exhibits the same problem as Ubuntu
9.10 running natively.

2. WinXP running in VMWare does /not/ exhibit the problem.

3. Cent OS 5.4 running in VMWare does exhibit the problem. Something I
was not expecting.

4. Ubuntu 8.04 did /not/ exhibit this problem. It started with 8.10 and
appeared to be much worse in 9.10.

Based on some discussions that I remember reading (but no longer have a
link to) I decided to try to upgrade the firmware on my DLink 707
firewall gadget to version 2.57 from version 2.51.

It's too early to tell for sure,  but my initial feeling is that network
performance is much improved. My standard test of loading multiple large
pages simultaneously is not causing the problem.

If this turns out to be the fix, the question would be why did Ubuntu
8.04 work flawlessly and later versions have problems?

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-02-21 Thread Laurent Bigonville
I think this has really nothing todo with this bug (aka slow dns
queries)

Did you try with something else than firefox? Like wget for example?

Could you try to disable ipv6 support in firefox (about:config in the
url bar and then looking for network.dns.disableipv6 key)?

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-02-19 Thread Ashkan_Akhavein
 @Turion

Thank you Tourion. I Installed the new eglibc package ( libc6
2.10.1-0ubuntu16).

I don't think it has fully resolved the problem.(but sure my browsing gets less 
delays now)
I still have the delay problem with some websites(even the with the google.com 
!).
Well, I certainly do not want to add more noise to this discussion.

Thank you all again.


P.S. I really hope that the Lucid Lynx will be released with no such bug.

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-02-19 Thread Yermo
From what I am observing here, the IPV6 problem is not the sole cause of
slow lookups and connection speed. Despite turning off IPV6, running my
own name server (even a local caching one), modifying
/etc/nsswitch.conf, tweaking settings in ethtool, etc. etc. etc. I still
get stalls and failed connections so often that the distribution is on
the verge of unusable.

To reproduce this problem open 15 tabs or so in firefox. close firefox.
Open it again and open another network app like Thunder bird at the same
time. More often than not many tabs will fail to load and you'll get a
failed to connect error from Thunderbird.

As has been reported, this does not happen, for instance, in WinXP
running in VMware on the same physical machine.

I am behind a D-Link DI-707 switch.

Unfortunately, it looks like I am going to have to bail on Ubuntu. It's
too bad. The distribution has a lot of promise.

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-02-19 Thread Laurent Bigonville
@Yermo:

Could you post the result of

ip -6 addr and ip -6 route please?

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-02-19 Thread Yermo
@Laurent As I mentioned, I have turned off ipv6 in grub:

r...@humility:~# ip -6 addr
r...@humility:~#

r...@humility:~# ip -6 route
172.16.38.0/24 dev vmnet8  proto kernel  scope link  src 172.16.38.1
192.168.194.0/24 dev vmnet1  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.194.1
192.168.0.0/24 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.0.5
169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0  scope link  metric 1000
default via 192.168.0.1 dev eth0  metric 100

I am running VMWare Workstation 7 on this machine.

I run my own nameserver which is on a CentOS 5 machine on the other side
of a DLink DI-707 firewall gadget.

I would be more than happy to run any tests to help track this down.

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-02-18 Thread Ashkan_Akhavein
Hello everyone,

a rather basic question:

How can I update (or install the new) eglibc package?

I don't want to use the update manager since I haven't installed
any updates after the fresh installation of Karmic(I use Karmic on an USB drive)
and updating ruins my system(it just won't boot after updating. I asked
a question about this update problem elsewhere in Launchpad : 
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/yelp/+question/99635 )

Maybe I can use Synaptic or use a command from terminal
or download something directly from the net and install it?

Thank you for your help.

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-02-18 Thread Turion
1. Do you have the package source karmic-updates enabled? If no, enable it in 
Synaptic just for one time. After enabling it, do an update (but not an 
upgrade!).
2. Look for the libc6 package and choose the version (Ctrl + E, or in the 
Package Menu). Choose the newest which should be 2.10.1-0ubuntu16 from 
karmic-updates and click the green checkmark ;) Should work.

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-02-07 Thread dhenry
It's fixed in Karmic. But still present on Lucid. Please fix it before
Lucid release, not like for Karmic (fix was too late).

@manu: it has nothing to do with wireless. It's the same problem with
wired connection.

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Re: [Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-02-07 Thread manu
Dear friend,

I think that I am using ubuntu vedio studio 9.10 is Karmic. So how can I fix
this?  using “eglibc” package

manu

On 7 February 2010 14:59, dhenry
tfc.duke+launch...@gmail.comtfc.duke%2blaunch...@gmail.com
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 It's fixed in Karmic. But still present on Lucid. Please fix it before
 Lucid release, not like for Karmic (fix was too late).

 @manu: it has nothing to do with wireless. It's the same problem with
 wired connection.

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 Bug description:
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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-02-07 Thread dhenry
I thought it was in karmic-updates, or maybe karmic-proposed repository.
Which version of libc6 package do you have? I have 2.10.1-0ubuntu16 from 
karmic-updates.

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Re: [Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-02-07 Thread manu
how can I find the version?

manu

On 7 February 2010 18:52, dhenry
tfc.duke+launch...@gmail.comtfc.duke%2blaunch...@gmail.com
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 I thought it was in karmic-updates, or maybe karmic-proposed repository.
 Which version of libc6 package do you have? I have 2.10.1-0ubuntu16 from
 karmic-updates.

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 Status in “eglibc” package in Ubuntu: Triaged
 Status in “network-manager” package in Ubuntu: Invalid
 Status in “eglibc” source package in Lucid: Triaged
 Status in “network-manager” source package in Lucid: Invalid
 Status in “eglibc” source package in Karmic: Fix Released
 Status in “network-manager” source package in Karmic: Invalid
 Status in “glibc” package in Fedora: Confirmed

 Bug description:
 In Karmic, DNS lookups take a very long time with some routers, because
 glibc's DNS resolver tries to do IPv6 () lookups even if there are no
 (non-loopback) IPv6 interfaces configured. Routers which do not repond to
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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-02-06 Thread manu
I think it is better to notify that Ubuntu is not suitable for wireless 
Network in home page of Ubuntu. So it help to avoid the installation for the 
wireless users.
Thank you

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-02-03 Thread Yermo
I can confirm that there is something else, beyond IPV6 lookups, that is
causing timeouts.

Kubuntu 9.10 with libc6-i686 2.10.1-0ubuntu16 (i386) which, if I'm not
mistaken, contains the IPV6 fix.

Dell Nseries desktop box. Completely stock.

Using fixed IP behind a D-Link 707 consumer grade firewall. DNS server
running on a CentOS 5 box on the other side of the firewall.

IPV6 disabled in /etc/default/grub using 
   GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=ipv6.disable=1 quiet splash

IPV6 disabled in firefox as well.

Regardless of whether I use a local caching nameserver, pdns-recursor,
or a name server on a CentOS 5 box, the timeout phenomenon is the same.
From a gut feel point of view, I'd say it's worse when using the local
caching nameserver.

Running WinXP in VMWare Workstation 7 on the same physical machine with
no timeouts. (i.e. While it's timing out in firefox I switch into XP and
pull the same page. Comes up instantly.)

My feeling is we're dealing with some kind of race condition in the
resolver library because it happens when doing a number of simultaneous
DNS requests.

Open 20 or so tabs in firefox to various websites with varying load
times. Close firefox. Reopen firefox and at the same time open
Thunderbird. In this scenario Thunderbird will timeout 100% of the time
as will the majority of tabs in firefox.

It's intermittent. In FF, I can have one tab that's loading and other
that's timing out. Sometimes it will pull the main html page but timeout
on graphics or CSS.

I would like to be able to run Kubuntu instead of having to fallback to
CentOS 5. I am willing to lend a hand to track this down if you would
like to give me some tests to run. I can reproduce this problem
consistently.

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-02-03 Thread Yermo
My bad. It looks like what I described above is covered by this bug:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nss-mdns/+bug/94940

Editing /etc/nsswitch.conf and changing

   hosts:  files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4

to

   hosts:  files dns

looks like it fixes this issue.

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-01-23 Thread cheerios_
I couldn't get wireless to work properly on my box after Jaunty-Karmic
upgrade. Fresh Karmic install works better. I still get long Resolving
host... timeouts (even against google.com) now and then, but mostly
things work. Not sure what went wrong during the upgrade to cause all
the problems.

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-01-21 Thread robert leleu
Generally speaking this bug is not solved.
I just had a general crash, and installed a new Ubuntu Karmic.Whaouh! If I 
were a newbie I'd erased the whole stuff

I, very slowly, googled to patches, choose the Grub patch..and it
works for Firefox, Thunderbird and apt-get.


But the Ubuntu version now distributed has to be considered as bugged..and 
since installation are usually made from downloaded CD, and requires connection 
to internet, why not write the good line in Grub config, and at the first 
connection check the internet provider against a list of providers, and deliver 
a good new message such as:

Hello, you're happy to have such an internet providerhe uses
uptodate technology, and we can set your Ubuntu to use it. Paay
attention if you change your provider, or connect from other sites: you
may experience slow connection. Please consult such a page for
further explanations, and automatically modify the Grub configuration
to use ipv6

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-01-19 Thread Deebs
I have also been watching this bug for a long time and just chirping in
to say this issue is now fixed for me on karmic.

Thanks guys.

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-01-18 Thread Michael McLeish
This problem is not fixed on my computer, unfortunately.  I'm a first
time poster here - been watching this bug for a long time.  It appeared
to be fixed for a day or two, but I still have the long delays on page
requests.  Also, I've tried downloading large files via firefox and I've
also been experiencing delays in the start of the downloads, as well as
long interruptions.  Watching this on the system monitor confirms, when
this bug acts up, there is zero incoming transmissions via wireless.
The only work around I've been able to get to work is to open a new
window in firefox, and hit stop + refresh until it 'unlocks' itself and
the incoming transmissions restart.

Also, I don't seem to have the eglibc package installed on my version
of Karmic (Desktop, 64 bit).  Is this embedded in another package?  I've
found eglibc-source in the repos - am I supposed to install this?

Sorry for the questions, but this has been a most frustrating bug and
I'd like to see some resolution.  Thanks for all your hard work folks!

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Re: [Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-01-18 Thread Jeremy Visser
On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 23:31 +, Michael McLeish wrote: 
 This problem is not fixed on my computer, unfortunately.  I'm a first
 time poster here - been watching this bug for a long time.  It appeared
 to be fixed for a day or two, but I still have the long delays on page
 requests.

Perhaps delayed  requests are not your only problem. If you're
adventurous, you could have a look at what seems to be holding it up in
Wireshark. (Though that's for another bug report.)

 Also, I don't seem to have the eglibc package installed on my version
 of Karmic (Desktop, 64 bit).  Is this embedded in another package?

eglibc is just a source package name: the binary packages that result
from it that appear in your package manager are not necessarily (but
usually are, but in this case, are not) named the same.

http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/eglibc

So the binary version of eglibc is called libc6 in your package manager.

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-01-17 Thread Martin Pitt
Please don't change bug states without explanation. As I explained
earlier, it seems that a later lucid version dropped the patch again. I
get the problem again in current lucid.

** Changed in: eglibc (Ubuntu Lucid)
   Status: Fix Released = Triaged

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-01-17 Thread Matthias Klose
no, the patch is not dropped. Martin, I would appreciate it if you could
have a look at this again.

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-01-17 Thread Erwin Aberger
** Changed in: eglibc (Ubuntu Karmic)
   Status: Fix Released = Invalid

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-01-17 Thread Micah Gersten
Please don't change bug states without explanation.

** Changed in: eglibc (Ubuntu Karmic)
   Status: Invalid = Fix Released

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-01-16 Thread Erwin Aberger
** Changed in: eglibc (Ubuntu Lucid)
   Status: Confirmed = Fix Released

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-01-15 Thread Eshant Gupta
** Changed in: eglibc (Ubuntu Karmic)
   Status: Fix Released = Fix Committed

** Changed in: eglibc (Ubuntu Karmic)
   Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-01-13 Thread jordan.sc
To clarify my terminology per Martin Pitt, I should have said that there
are no longer any delays when browsing, using Rhythmbox and checking for
updates. The bug appears fixed on my netbook running UNR 9.10/Karmic. I
will test again on my desktop machine running Karmic.

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-01-13 Thread Filofel
After applying the updates and removing the workarounds I had used before, the 
problem seems to be gone on my machines.
Thanks, folks!

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-01-12 Thread RobertL
My Internet connection via cable and router is still as slow as before. 
Downloads are about 100kps were the very same machine (Fujitsu Siemens Amilo A 
notebook) running Windows XP does about 600kps.
Which information can I provide to help you help me?

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Re: [Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-01-12 Thread Martin Pitt
RobertL [2010-01-12 21:20 -]:
 My Internet connection via cable and router is still as slow as
 before. Downloads are about 100kps were the very same machine
 (Fujitsu Siemens Amilo A notebook) running Windows XP does about
 600kps.

This is totally unrelated. The symptom of this bug is that it takes
some 10 seconds to establish a connection (due to slow name
resolving). It does not affect download/upload speed at all.

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-01-12 Thread jordan.sc
I suspected user (as in me) error after my report yesterday. I ran all
updates on my laptop running Ubuntu Netbook Remix 9.10 (Karmic) and
tested browsing with ipv6 enabled, playing the radio in Rhythmbox and
checking for updates. Speeds seemed normal and similar to what I was
seeing using 9.04. I apologize for yesterday's erroneous results.

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-01-11 Thread jordan.sc
I' ve been experiencing intermittent slow browsing in Firefox 3.5 with
IPv6 enabled. It's much better than it was but there are periodic 3 to 4
second delays in loading web pages. Additionally, preset radio stations
in Rhythmbox sometimes take 3 to 7 seconds to load. Update manager is
slower to start as well. When I switch over to Jaunty (with Firefox 3.5
installed) on the same machine, I see none of these issues.

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-01-10 Thread Martin Pitt
** Changed in: eglibc (Ubuntu Karmic)
   Status: Fix Released = Fix Committed

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-01-10 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package eglibc - 2.10.1-0ubuntu16

---
eglibc (2.10.1-0ubuntu16) karmic-proposed; urgency=low

  [ Martin Pitt ]
  * debian/patches/series: Apply any/local-ipv6-lookup.diff again to fix
painfully long timeouts on DNS resolution, if routers do not send an
answer to  (IPv6) DNS queries. With this patch those DNS requests are
not sent in the first place if there are no routable IPV6 interfaces.
(LP: #417757) This reopens LP #239701, #374674, so a full solution would
need to fix the patch properly.

  [ Matthias Klose ]
  * patches/any/cvs-malloc-check.diff: new patch from upstream to fix bugs
with MALLOC_CHECK.  Closes: #557158. LP: #425723.
 -- Matthias Klose d...@ubuntu.com   Thu, 24 Dec 2009 11:16:36 +0100

** Changed in: eglibc (Ubuntu Karmic)
   Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-01-10 Thread Brad Peters
Can anyone confirm this is now fixed?  I reverted back to Jaunty at work
until this was confirmed fixed.  I see the fix was released, but I want
to be certain before I incur more downtime on my box.

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-01-10 Thread robert leleu
I use Karmic, and to overcome the bug I used the four numbers IP of my FAI SMTP
I just checked that returning to the normal smtp name I obtain a correctly fast 
response.

Also for internet browsing I  had disabled the ipv6 in the configuration of the 
wifi lan.
I just activated it again, and checked some pages: seems normal.

Checking in the package manager I find that eglibc-source is not
installed , and that the version of this package is proposed as
2.10.1-0ubuntu15

So I just understand nothing to what is happening.

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-01-10 Thread dhenry
It seems to be OK for me too, so I think that yes, it's really fixed :)

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-01-10 Thread robert leleu
I concluded too fast.I just experimented slow connection to smtp, so I put 
back the IP smtp, which worked fine..
I stay with ipv6 activated, and will report if I experiment delays in 
browsing

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-01-09 Thread leucomax
** Changed in: eglibc (Ubuntu Karmic)
   Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released

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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-01-07 Thread Martin Pitt
Reopening for lucid, this regressed with the recent eglibc merge.

** Changed in: eglibc (Ubuntu Lucid)
   Status: Fix Released = Confirmed

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[karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays 
by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups
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[Bug 417757] Re: [karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups

2010-01-05 Thread Brad Peters
I tested the karmic-proposed package on my work machine, however, I'm
still having intermittent issues with this.  Since this is a work
machine, I'm at the mercy of our IT department as far as routers and DNS
resolution goes.  I've disabled all workarounds, installed the new
package and rebooted.  It worked for about five minutes before going
back to the same behavior I was seeing previously.

All throughout this bug report, a lot of people (developers, I'm
assuming) have commented that the routers are broken and it shouldn't be
on Ubuntu to fix the problem.  I'm sorry, but if I go from a working
version of Ubuntu (Jaunty) and upgrade, I expect everything to work
equally as well, if not better, than the previous release.

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