[Bug 42454] Re: Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware
Latest release of Baltix is based on Ubuntu Jaunty so this bug is surely fixed there too. ** Changed in: baltix Status: New = Fix Released -- Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/42454 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kubuntu-docs in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 42454] Re: Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware
The bug's status in Baltix is Baltix's own business. -- Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/42454 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Team, which is a bug contact for kubuntu-docs in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 42454] Re: Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware
This bug is marked as fix released, can we take a look at Baltix which I don't know anything about, and see where this bug stands there? Thanks, Jonatahn -- Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/42454 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Team, which is a bug contact for kubuntu-docs in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 42454] Re: Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware
Ok, I've had a go at using these instructions to setup the modem on my laptop, which is an Intel Conexant modem. I don't think that all the instructions from the wiki are in an appropriate state to go into the system help, because there are a number of areas which address Breezy/Dapper only, and a lot of unsupported drivers are flying around. Equally, it's clearly not going to be at all possible for a user without any kind of internet access to get it working without an alternative internet connection - the scanmodem tool itself and all the drivers need to be downloaded. For now, I think the best we can do is provide an introduction to the topic, how to find out the required driver with scanmodem and a pointer to useful online documentation about where to find the drivers. That is already included in the current dialup section of internet.xml. (preview - http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/C/internet/connect-to- internet.html#dialup) Any further detail is going to have to wait until drivers for modems are consistently provided with Ubuntu or at least the functionality for adding them semi-automatically is included. For now I'll close this bug. ** Changed in: ubuntu-doc (upstream) Status: Confirmed = Fix Released ** Changed in: kubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Fix Released ** Changed in: ubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Fix Released -- Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware https://launchpad.net/bugs/42454 -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 42454] Re: Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware
I made the winmodem on my HP Compaq nc4200 laptop with today's Feisty working. scanmodem told me to modprobe the low-level driver (snd_intel8x0m) and after re-running it created a file Modem/ModemData.txt in which it was written that the high-level driver is slmodemd. With Universe and Multiverse activated I tried to find an appropriate Ubuntu package trying sudo apt-get install slmodemd sudo apt-get install slmodem and the second command installed and started the desired driver. After that sudo wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf communicated with the modem and created an initial config file. I have ASDL, but I only wanted to tell that it works for me with the mentioned laptop. -- Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware https://launchpad.net/bugs/42454 -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 42454] Re: Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware
Proceeding exactly the same way as in my previous posting I got also the modem on the Samsung X10plus laptop working. It is the same modem. Can it be that all Centrino laptops have the same modem? -- Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware https://launchpad.net/bugs/42454 -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 42454] Re: Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware
great, thanks a lot :) now that we know scanmodem is working with feisty with h.u.c./community instructions, can we put the documentation to the offline help system? the attached xml file needs to be fixed I assume (I didn't learn anything new about xml since I did that file)... Can it be that all Centrino laptops have the same modem? I don't think so but you're very lucky to bump into an alsa-enabled sl-modem on two separate systems... I've got one and they're one of the easiest to make work :) Specific instructions for that are here (in case someone hits your comment via google): https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/AlsaModem Rest of the slmodems here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Smartlink -- Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware https://launchpad.net/bugs/42454 -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 42454] Re: Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware
I'd like to do more about this bug, but as far as I can see we haven't had any information about the use of the scanmodem tool in Feisty, except that it probably doesn't work. Modems are clearly a very difficult area and we are going to need the developers' input before we can move any further, I think. -- Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware https://launchpad.net/bugs/42454 -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 42454] Re: Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware
I can't try Feisty (I've got one single production machine w. Dapper) but asked ppl to assist here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu- devel-discuss/2007-March/000434.html Thanks a lot for your interest in this :) -- Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware https://launchpad.net/bugs/42454 -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 42454] Re: Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware
is this forgotten now? is anyone working on this, at least to try to include the winmodem part before feisty is released? (the bad xml was attached to this bug report) -- Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware https://launchpad.net/bugs/42454 -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 42454] Re: Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware
We are working on this and I believe the Ubuntu side has done a great deal of work, or are still in the planning phase which has consisted of a great deal of work. We still have 2 months until string freeze and we are working hard on many many things right now. -- Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware https://launchpad.net/bugs/42454 -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 42454] Re: Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware
I'd like to get cracking on the dialup part of this bug. What is support for modems likely to be like for Ubuntu 7.04? And we need to focus on ensuring the instructions we give are correct - last thing I heard that the scanmodem tool doesn't work any more with Ubuntu, is this correct? if so, what alternatives exist? -- Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware https://launchpad.net/bugs/42454 -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 42454] Re: Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware
emailed ubuntu-doc team a couple of times, latest here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-doc/2006-December/007510.html -- Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware https://launchpad.net/bugs/42454 -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 42454] Re: Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware
** Attachment added: documentation in txt http://librarian.launchpad.net/4838571/DialupModemHowto.txt -- Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware https://launchpad.net/bugs/42454 -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 42454] Re: Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware
** Attachment added: documentation in xml (probably a very bad xml) http://librarian.launchpad.net/4838573/ModemDocumentation.xml -- Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware https://launchpad.net/bugs/42454 -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 42454] Re: Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware
I used an online html to xml converter, which probably couldn't do it... but it's an xml nevertheless :) -- Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware https://launchpad.net/bugs/42454 -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 42454] Re: Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware
I was hoping to do his, but nowadays, so busy... can we just add the wiki information (copy paste + format) as it is? link is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto it has been tried and tested numerous times via the forums... thanks :) -- Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware https://launchpad.net/bugs/42454 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 42454] Re: Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware
so any help with that from someone who knows about dialup modems would be appreciated. only if I knew something about writing offline documentation... -- Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware https://launchpad.net/bugs/42454 -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 42454] Re: Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware
towsonu2003, you can email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a plain text attachment of your write up if you would like. Another suggestion would be the wiki, so that we could get people to test your procedures/ideas to this fix before implementing them into the documentation. All of our offline documentation is written in DocBook XML. It is rather easy to pickup truthfully, but for the time being, the wiki or plain text would be fine. Thanks! -- Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware https://launchpad.net/bugs/42454 -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 42454] Re: Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware
** Changed in: kubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) Status: Rejected = Confirmed -- Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware https://launchpad.net/bugs/42454 -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 42454] Re: Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware
** Changed in: ubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) Status: Rejected = Confirmed -- Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware https://launchpad.net/bugs/42454 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 42454] Re: [Bug 42454] Re: Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * towsonu2003: However, for the modem section, I do not think giving only the scanmodem help is enough. [...] the documentation is also lacking how to configure the adsl connection Yes, as I said above, those sections still need work. That's why this bug hasn't been closed. is there any way to gather the info laying down in our dialup modem howto wiki page and put it in the documentation? just like the wiki does, we could make it into sections, each section describing the way to do it for one modem chipset (as identified by scanmodem). Yes, I used the wiki information to write the ndiswrapper section, and we can do the same for the modem section. It's quite difficult because there are so many models of modem, and really difficult to confirm whether the instructions for each of them are accurate. For a new Ubuntu / Linux user, it is extremely hard to enable networking when all the documentation is presented online, not offline... Yeah, that's what this bug is about. As an endnote, would it be possible to put the Broadcom bcm43xx instructions into the offline guide as well? I would love to see as much information about networking in the offline documentation as possible... Thank you very much for your effort :) This is a wireless chip right? I'm not completely sure about whether we can document individual wireless chips, because (a) it's quite hard for the user to find out what chip they have (as far as I know), and (b) the information we have available is vast and probably not particularly accurate (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs). Ndiswrapper is generally a universal fix, which is why I included that. Matt -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE7rKFtSaF0w5rBv8RAgUVAJ9F8CWrdCiQtBA7PP/gsNa0vc40AQCghJqA ZgjdlHUHfWeU2b/DF3/qE1g= =Nhj1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ -- Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware https://launchpad.net/bugs/42454 -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 42454] Re: Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware
I've started working on this: I've made the section on connecting to the internet more prominent and added information on setting up wireless cards with ndiswrapper. Please review - http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/connect-to-internet.html We still need to add more information on modems, specifically dialup and ADSL modems. -- Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware https://launchpad.net/bugs/42454 -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 42454] Re: Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware
The guide (the link you sent) looks very nice. However, for the modem section, I do not think giving only the scanmodem help is enough. is there any way to gather the info laying down in our dialup modem howto wiki page and put it in the documentation? just like the wiki does, we could make it into sections, each section describing the way to do it for one modem chipset (as identified by scanmodem). the documentation is also lacking how to configure the adsl connection so it would be a great idea to put the online wiki guide into the offline guide you have. in other words, you could put whatever is written in this web page ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE ) to your offline documentation under the heading ADSL Modems. For a new Ubuntu / Linux user, it is extremely hard to enable networking when all the documentation is presented online, not offline... As an endnote, would it be possible to put the Broadcom bcm43xx instructions into the offline guide as well? I would love to see as much information about networking in the offline documentation as possible... Thank you very much for your effort :) -- Documentation should include greater detail about setting up difficult network hardware https://launchpad.net/bugs/42454 -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
