[Bug 444675] Re: pulseaudio ratelimit warning is annoying
This sounds like Ubuntu becoming more and more like Windows - very fragile. Ubuntu is saying, effectively, Well, I don't understand the problem, so I'm not going to fix it. It's not like a bunch of people haven't already pointed out that there _is_ a problem. Ubuntu just doesn't want to be bothered with having to fix it. Fair enough. There are other distributions to try... Yes, I am seeing the same useless spam logs, while the sound continues to work. And yes, the message in the log is meaningless and useless. And yes, I believe that it is Ubuntu that has the responsibility to address the issue, either by talking directly with the up-stream developers, or by fixing the issue themselves, if only to create a meaningful and useful message, to identify the actual problem. And no, I don't know how pulseaudio works, or why alsa and pulseaudio have to over-lap functionality, instead of making alsa volume controls work right in the first place. In the end, it's _Ubuntu_ that is broken, sort of like rotting concrete, regression after regression ... lots of bling, but the basic functionality is becoming fragile and pock-marked, the foundation rotting away. Ubuntu - bling built on rot. Instead, see if you can find some pride in your product. Hey - I'm still using it. -- pulseaudio ratelimit warning is annoying https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/444675 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 444675] Re: pulseaudio ratelimit warning is annoying
There actually is a valid alsa component to this, so we can't just muzzle the daemon. Changes will land soon in sound-2.6 git, will filter to linux-next, and should appear in 2.6.37. ** Changed in: pulseaudio (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Opinion -- pulseaudio ratelimit warning is annoying https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/444675 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 444675] Re: pulseaudio ratelimit warning is annoying
I started getting this log spam when I went to Lucid from Karmic, i.e. to pulseaudio 1:0.9.22~0.9.21+stable-queue-32-g8478-0ubuntu14 from 1:0.9.19-0ubuntu4.1. I think that rules out faulty hardware, so there has been some kind of software regression. I don't notice any sound problems either. -- pulseaudio ratelimit warning is annoying https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/444675 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 444675] Re: pulseaudio ratelimit warning is annoying
** Tags added: patch-needswork -- pulseaudio ratelimit warning is annoying https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/444675 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 444675] Re: pulseaudio ratelimit warning is annoying
I can confirm this bug persists in 10.04 with an Intel audio card. -- pulseaudio ratelimit warning is annoying https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/444675 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 444675] Re: pulseaudio ratelimit warning is annoying
Why remove its printing? It points to something pretty obvious, like your hardware and/or driver being broken. I don't see how quieting this is going to make things better in Lucid. -- pulseaudio ratelimit warning is annoying https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/444675 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 444675] Re: pulseaudio ratelimit warning is annoying
Well as a regular user you can't really do something about your hardware or drivers (except if you buy a new sound card because of this warning...). Secondly, as this bug is specifically about the warning although sound works, it can't be THAT broken ;) Regardless of these two points, the warning should not be printed dozens or hundreds of times in a standard setup (i.e. no debug flag set). -- pulseaudio ratelimit warning is annoying https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/444675 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 444675] Re: pulseaudio ratelimit warning is annoying
** Tags added: patch -- pulseaudio ratelimit warning is annoying https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/444675 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 444675] Re: pulseaudio ratelimit warning is annoying
Just in case this isn't clear, the ability to remove this spam is a feature, not a bugfix, and will not be addressed in Lucid/10.04 LTS. -- pulseaudio ratelimit warning is annoying https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/444675 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 444675] Re: pulseaudio ratelimit warning is annoying
I still consider it a bug to fill logs with useless error messages. My logs are completely dominated (95%) by either xx events suppressed or last message repeated yy times. A new message is posted every 3-5 seconds. It does not contain any information that would be useful to a system administrator-- only to a debugger. How about this patch? Changes the message to pa_log_debug from pa_log_warn. ** Patch added: change logging level for objectionable message http://launchpadlibrarian.net/42829700/pulse_ratelimit2.patch -- pulseaudio ratelimit warning is annoying https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/444675 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 444675] Re: pulseaudio ratelimit warning is annoying
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 6:10 PM, johnnynyquist bran...@301south.net wrote: How about this patch? Changes the message to pa_log_debug from pa_log_warn. While I don't necessarily have any objects to changing the log-level, I do object to the idea of hiding these messages. They're there because something is *broken*. We need to get your driver fixed, not mask PA's being upset. -- pulseaudio ratelimit warning is annoying https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/444675 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 444675] Re: pulseaudio ratelimit warning is annoying
Well, perhaps the message needs to be changed. I don't know what 'events' are, why they are 'suppressed', or what the consequences are. There is certainly no indication that any driver is broken. Someone who is familiar with the code should review this message; for now, though, the errors are distracting and don't seem to indicate any problems since audio continues to work just fine. Therefore, it is more appropriate as a debugging message. I'll concede-- The proposed 'patch' is not a 'fix' for whatever underlying problem there is. But from my (end-user) experience, there is no problem other than the nuisance of the message. -- pulseaudio ratelimit warning is annoying https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/444675 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 444675] Re: pulseaudio ratelimit warning is annoying
That's OK - As the original reporter of the bug -- back in July 2009 -- I had no expectation it might be addressed by Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (April 2010). Lennart, perhaps you could put something upstream so that the fact that a driver / some other sound subsystem is logged only once per startup. Logging every couple of seconds does not seem beneficial for anyone. Cheers, Anand On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 3:43 AM, Daniel T Chen seven.st...@gmail.com wrote: Just in case this isn't clear, the ability to remove this spam is a feature, not a bugfix, and will not be addressed in Lucid/10.04 LTS. -- pulseaudio ratelimit warning is annoying https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/444675 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. Status in “pulseaudio” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: Binary package hint: pulseaudio 1) eve[~]% lsb_release -rd Description: Ubuntu karmic (development branch) Release: 9.10 2) eve[~]% apt-cache policy pulseaudio pulseaudio: Installed: 1:0.9.18-0ubuntu3 Candidate: 1:0.9.18-0ubuntu3 Version table: *** 1:0.9.18-0ubuntu3 0 500 http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com karmic/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 3) No output to appear from the pulseaudio daemon 4) I use logcheck to get a handle on the output emanating from my system. Lately, with the upgrade to Karmic 9.10 Beta, I have been seeing lots of: Oct 6 16:02:31 eve pulseaudio[5899]: ratelimit.c: 126 events suppressed Oct 6 16:02:45 eve pulseaudio[5899]: ratelimit.c: 129 events suppressed Whatever pulseaudio is doing that causes that: - what makes it thinks that if it retries the problem will go away? - why isn't ratelimit coalascing the many messages? - what exactly is being surpressed? - is it a problem? - how can it be fixed? Thanks, Anand ProblemType: Bug Architecture: i386 AudioDevicesInUse: USER PID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/controlC0: anand 5899 F pulseaudio Card0.Amixer.info: Card hw:0 'I82801DBICH4'/'Intel 82801DB-ICH4 with STAC9750,51 at irq 10' Mixer name : 'SigmaTel STAC9750,51' Components : 'AC97a:83847650' Controls : 33 Simple ctrls : 22 Card1.Amixer.info: Card hw:1 'Modem'/'Intel 82801DB-ICH4 Modem at irq 10' Mixer name : 'Conexant id 22' Components : 'AC97m:43585422' Controls : 2 Simple ctrls : 2 Card1.Codecs.codec97.0.mc97.1.1: 1-1/0: Conexant id 22 Extended modem ID: codec=1 LIN1 Modem status : PRA(GPIO) PRB(res) PRC(ADC1) PRD(DAC1) PRE(ADC2) PRF(DAC2) PRG(HADC) PRH(HDAC) Line1 rate : 8000Hz Date: Tue Oct 6 17:11:30 2009 DistroRelease: Ubuntu 9.10 Package: pulseaudio 1:0.9.18-0ubuntu3 ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=C PATH=(custom, user) LANG=C SHELL=/usr/bin/zsh ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.31-11.38-generic SourcePackage: pulseaudio Uname: Linux 2.6.31-11-generic i686 To unsubscribe from this bug, go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/444675/+subscribe -- pulseaudio ratelimit warning is annoying https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/444675 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 444675] Re: pulseaudio ratelimit warning is annoying
This is NOT a duplicate of 444950 -- sound does not stop working. This is a different bug- I am reopening. I have a patch. ** Changed in: pulseaudio (Ubuntu) Status: Won't Fix = Confirmed -- pulseaudio ratelimit warning is annoying https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/444675 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 444675] Re: pulseaudio ratelimit warning is annoying
Remove offensive log message. ** Patch added: remove offensive log message http://launchpadlibrarian.net/42749907/pulse_ratelimit.patch -- pulseaudio ratelimit warning is annoying https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/444675 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 444675] Re: pulseaudio ratelimit warning is annoying
** Changed in: pulseaudio (Ubuntu) Status: New = Won't Fix -- pulseaudio ratelimit warning is annoying https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/444675 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 444675] Re: pulseaudio ratelimit warning is annoying
Is this a duplicate of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/444950 ? -- pulseaudio ratelimit warning is annoying https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/444675 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 444675] Re: pulseaudio ratelimit warning is annoying
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