[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Thank you very much I have Ubuntu 12.04 LTE machine and had the same problem. according to this post I manage to fix it and this is what I done: ( in the file /etc/init/smbd.conf ) start on (local-filesystems and started cups and net-device-up) stop on runlevel [!2345] p.s. 1) The order of started cups and net-device-up is important!!! 2 )I just added started cups in the middle of the line. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/494141/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Thank you very much I have Ubuntu 12.04 LTE machine and had the same problem. according to this post I manage to fix it and this is what I done: ( in the file /etc/init/smbd.conf ) start on (local-filesystems and started cups and net-device-up) stop on runlevel [!2345] p.s. 1) The order of started cups and net-device-up is important!!! 2 )I just added started cups in the middle of the line. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/494141/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
I can confirm, this is still a problem on Precise. Please reopen this bug at least for precise. I could help with testing a fixed package. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/494141/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
I can confirm, this is still a problem on Precise. Please reopen this bug at least for precise. I could help with testing a fixed package. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/494141/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
This is again a problem on Precise. I have to delay the startup of Samba until CUPS is started, otherwise it won't find the shared printer. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/494141/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
This is again a problem on Precise. I have to delay the startup of Samba until CUPS is started, otherwise it won't find the shared printer. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/494141/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Marking the Lucid task as New and removing the verification-needed tag; this has been superseded by a security update and needs uploading again, merged with the security update. ** Changed in: cups (Ubuntu Lucid) Status: Fix Committed = New ** Tags removed: verification-needed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/494141/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
As nobody tested the lucid-proposed cups package in a year, let's just bury this. ** Changed in: cups (Ubuntu Lucid) Status: New = Won't Fix ** Changed in: cups (Ubuntu Lucid) Milestone: ubuntu-10.04.3 = None -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/494141/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Marking the Lucid task as New and removing the verification-needed tag; this has been superseded by a security update and needs uploading again, merged with the security update. ** Changed in: cups (Ubuntu Lucid) Status: Fix Committed = New ** Tags removed: verification-needed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/494141/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
As nobody tested the lucid-proposed cups package in a year, let's just bury this. ** Changed in: cups (Ubuntu Lucid) Status: New = Won't Fix ** Changed in: cups (Ubuntu Lucid) Milestone: ubuntu-10.04.3 = None -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/494141/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Right, so the 750 second reload bit may only work in some configurations. I'd like to get as much information about peoples' configurations to ascertain why this works for some, and not others. If we move the start condition for samba to 'stopped rc', that will possibly break other peoples' configurations that may be depending on samba to start before rc.local, which happens just before 'stopped rc', so that is not a viable generic solution, though it does sound like a decent workaround for affected users. Please, users who are affected, open new reports and link to them here. There is just way too much noise here for the issue to be clear. It may turn out that this wasn't fixed entirely, but it won't help to continue commenting here. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/494141/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Right, so the 750 second reload bit may only work in some configurations. I'd like to get as much information about peoples' configurations to ascertain why this works for some, and not others. If we move the start condition for samba to 'stopped rc', that will possibly break other peoples' configurations that may be depending on samba to start before rc.local, which happens just before 'stopped rc', so that is not a viable generic solution, though it does sound like a decent workaround for affected users. Please, users who are affected, open new reports and link to them here. There is just way too much noise here for the issue to be clear. It may turn out that this wasn't fixed entirely, but it won't help to continue commenting here. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/494141/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Excerpts from Lucio M Nicolosi's message of Fri Sep 02 18:25:19 UTC 2011: @ Clint, A long time ago I also reported this bug for Maverick 64. Others reported for Natty an now Oneiric. Tired of waiting for a solution, successfully applied the patch explained at #18 to both my Mav and Natty installs. Wouldn't be easier to acknowledge that this bug isn't fixed at all than opening a new thread? First, Thanks for sticking with us Lucio! I know it can be frustrating when something just isn't working the way you'd expect it to. There is a lot of noise attached to this, and it was indeed fixed at one point by the developer. What has happened is likely a regression, or even possibly an entirely different set of circumstances that lead to the same bad end. We may find that the original fix never took, but your extra bug reports with versions and descriptions will help us nail down how this slipped through and hopefully help to prevent the problem from recurring. There's no reason to get attached to this particular bug report at all. I know its much easier to just comment on this existing bug than to open up a terminal and run 'ubuntu-bug cups' again, but that will help us a great deal, even if we end up marking your new report as a duplicate of this one. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/494141/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Clint, In the new bug report, please consider that contrary to the stated at #30 (Martin Pitt) : For lucid, ... samba reloads the printers every 750 seconds anyway, so it's just a matter of waiting... At least for some hardware configurations it doesn't happen for Maverick, Natty and Oneiric (as seen by the previous posts) Also, please repost the working solution at #18 so that until a permanent solution is released, faulty systems can be easily patched. Many thanks for addressing this issue again. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/494141/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
Re: [Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Excerpts from Lucio M Nicolosi's message of Fri Sep 02 18:25:19 UTC 2011: @ Clint, A long time ago I also reported this bug for Maverick 64. Others reported for Natty an now Oneiric. Tired of waiting for a solution, successfully applied the patch explained at #18 to both my Mav and Natty installs. Wouldn't be easier to acknowledge that this bug isn't fixed at all than opening a new thread? First, Thanks for sticking with us Lucio! I know it can be frustrating when something just isn't working the way you'd expect it to. There is a lot of noise attached to this, and it was indeed fixed at one point by the developer. What has happened is likely a regression, or even possibly an entirely different set of circumstances that lead to the same bad end. We may find that the original fix never took, but your extra bug reports with versions and descriptions will help us nail down how this slipped through and hopefully help to prevent the problem from recurring. There's no reason to get attached to this particular bug report at all. I know its much easier to just comment on this existing bug than to open up a terminal and run 'ubuntu-bug cups' again, but that will help us a great deal, even if we end up marking your new report as a duplicate of this one. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/494141/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Clint, In the new bug report, please consider that contrary to the stated at #30 (Martin Pitt) : For lucid, ... samba reloads the printers every 750 seconds anyway, so it's just a matter of waiting... At least for some hardware configurations it doesn't happen for Maverick, Natty and Oneiric (as seen by the previous posts) Also, please repost the working solution at #18 so that until a permanent solution is released, faulty systems can be easily patched. Many thanks for addressing this issue again. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/494141/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
I confirm this in Ubuntu Server 11.04. It's very strange that this bug exists for so long. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/494141/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Kiril and/or berry, can you open a new bug report? This has been marked as Fix Released since Ubuntu 10.10, so if the SIGHUP after startup solution isn't working, then we have a regression. Just run 'ubuntu-bug cups' and it will collect information from your systems. Make sure to come back to this bug report and let us know what bug#'s you've opened so we can investigate this regression. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/494141/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
@ Clint, A long time ago I also reported this bug for Maverick 64. Others reported for Natty an now Oneiric. Tired of waiting for a solution, successfully applied the patch explained at #18 to both my Mav and Natty installs. Wouldn't be easier to acknowledge that this bug isn't fixed at all than opening a new thread? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/494141/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
I confirm this in Ubuntu Server 11.04. It's very strange that this bug exists for so long. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/494141/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Kiril and/or berry, can you open a new bug report? This has been marked as Fix Released since Ubuntu 10.10, so if the SIGHUP after startup solution isn't working, then we have a regression. Just run 'ubuntu-bug cups' and it will collect information from your systems. Make sure to come back to this bug report and let us know what bug#'s you've opened so we can investigate this regression. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/494141/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
@ Clint, A long time ago I also reported this bug for Maverick 64. Others reported for Natty an now Oneiric. Tired of waiting for a solution, successfully applied the patch explained at #18 to both my Mav and Natty installs. Wouldn't be easier to acknowledge that this bug isn't fixed at all than opening a new thread? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/494141/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Very frustrating until I saw this post. Confrimed for me in 11.04. My machine had had very high uptimes so I did not notice until my UPS went recently and I would loose printers on reboots. I was blindly hacking my smb.conf until this post. rc.local with /sbin/reload smbd is my workaround -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/494141/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Very frustrating until I saw this post. Confrimed for me in 11.04. My machine had had very high uptimes so I did not notice until my UPS went recently and I would loose printers on reboots. I was blindly hacking my smb.conf until this post. rc.local with /sbin/reload smbd is my workaround -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/494141/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
** Changed in: cups (Ubuntu Lucid) Milestone: None = ubuntu-10.04.3 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/494141/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Yes, the bug is still in 11.04 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/494141/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Yes, the bug is still in 11.04 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/494141/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
On a 11.04 Natty Narwhal box I want to use as a : - DHCP server - NAS - Printer Server where all clients are Xp Pro based, I run into this samba starts before cups issue and I read all the previous comments. I also gave a quick look to Upstart pages. I did this stupid thing in /etc/init/smbd.conf : start on( local-filesystems and started cups) It works on my ubuntu box, perhaps this is a nice case of beginner luck but I do hope it helps others to solve their problems. Damn ! I see that this was done in #43 by Nec. Ok nevertheless take it as a further confirmation. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
On a 11.04 Natty Narwhal box I want to use as a : - DHCP server - NAS - Printer Server where all clients are Xp Pro based, I run into this samba starts before cups issue and I read all the previous comments. I also gave a quick look to Upstart pages. I did this stupid thing in /etc/init/smbd.conf : start on( local-filesystems and started cups) It works on my ubuntu box, perhaps this is a nice case of beginner luck but I do hope it helps others to solve their problems. Damn ! I see that this was done in #43 by Nec. Ok nevertheless take it as a further confirmation. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
This problem still exists in 11.04 Natty Narwhal. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
This problem still exists in 11.04 Natty Narwhal. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
re #44,45,46 Apologies in advance if I've mis-understood the interactions here. Can you please post the preferred workaround? I have this exact issue in a fully-patched lucid (10.04.2) deployment that has already chewed up hours of my time over the past week. It started with VMware ws7 not being able to use a 2nd PCI parallel port, which, after my dis-belief passed, pushed me to kludge it with samba and cups and raw print queues, only to find this bug (after 3 or 4 cold starts to confirm yet another WTF?! moment). All I really want is for smbd to start after cups, in a way that won't come back and bite me in the [ah] when the packages get updated in the future (at a remote client site) I don't plan to test the proposed patch as described in #49, since this machine is going into production ASAP (see comments about hours of time invested over a week) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
derekshow, have you tried adding '/sbin/reload smbd' at the end of /etc/rc.local ? That does not restart the Samba smbd processes, but does force them to reload their configuration - including asking CUPS for a list of printers. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
yes. I just did this in the interval between my last post and now. I was hoping for something with a little error-checking (rc.local always returns 0) for others, here's the actual contents of /etc/rc.local ** Attachment added: contents of /etc/rc.local as a local fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/samba/+bug/494141/+attachment/2041391/+files/rc.local -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
derekshaw, you do not need to *restart* smbd, only *reload* it. And it is best to give the full path to the program in case the shell you are using has not automatically added /sbin to your $PATH variable. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
Re: [Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Excerpts from derekshaw's message of Fri Apr 15 14:18:17 UTC 2011: re #44,45,46 Apologies in advance if I've mis-understood the interactions here. Can you please post the preferred workaround? I have this exact issue in a fully-patched lucid (10.04.2) deployment that has already chewed up hours of my time over the past week. It started with VMware ws7 not being able to use a 2nd PCI parallel port, which, after my dis-belief passed, pushed me to kludge it with samba and cups and raw print queues, only to find this bug (after 3 or 4 cold starts to confirm yet another WTF?! moment). All I really want is for smbd to start after cups, in a way that won't come back and bite me in the [ah] when the packages get updated in the future (at a remote client site) I don't plan to test the proposed patch as described in #49, since this machine is going into production ASAP (see comments about hours of time invested over a week) Derek, the change in the -proposed package implements the workaround others are suggesting, though it does it in the package, rather than rc.local. If somebody is willing to try out the -proposed package, and let us know here, we can allow it into -updates so all users will get it. You don't need to be affected by the bug to try it out, just follow the test case on a clean lucid VM (you can just configure a printer that doesn't exist) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
re #44,45,46 Apologies in advance if I've mis-understood the interactions here. Can you please post the preferred workaround? I have this exact issue in a fully-patched lucid (10.04.2) deployment that has already chewed up hours of my time over the past week. It started with VMware ws7 not being able to use a 2nd PCI parallel port, which, after my dis-belief passed, pushed me to kludge it with samba and cups and raw print queues, only to find this bug (after 3 or 4 cold starts to confirm yet another WTF?! moment). All I really want is for smbd to start after cups, in a way that won't come back and bite me in the [ah] when the packages get updated in the future (at a remote client site) I don't plan to test the proposed patch as described in #49, since this machine is going into production ASAP (see comments about hours of time invested over a week) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
derekshow, have you tried adding '/sbin/reload smbd' at the end of /etc/rc.local ? That does not restart the Samba smbd processes, but does force them to reload their configuration - including asking CUPS for a list of printers. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
yes. I just did this in the interval between my last post and now. I was hoping for something with a little error-checking (rc.local always returns 0) for others, here's the actual contents of /etc/rc.local ** Attachment added: contents of /etc/rc.local as a local fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/samba/+bug/494141/+attachment/2041391/+files/rc.local -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
derekshaw, you do not need to *restart* smbd, only *reload* it. And it is best to give the full path to the program in case the shell you are using has not automatically added /sbin to your $PATH variable. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Excerpts from derekshaw's message of Fri Apr 15 14:18:17 UTC 2011: re #44,45,46 Apologies in advance if I've mis-understood the interactions here. Can you please post the preferred workaround? I have this exact issue in a fully-patched lucid (10.04.2) deployment that has already chewed up hours of my time over the past week. It started with VMware ws7 not being able to use a 2nd PCI parallel port, which, after my dis-belief passed, pushed me to kludge it with samba and cups and raw print queues, only to find this bug (after 3 or 4 cold starts to confirm yet another WTF?! moment). All I really want is for smbd to start after cups, in a way that won't come back and bite me in the [ah] when the packages get updated in the future (at a remote client site) I don't plan to test the proposed patch as described in #49, since this machine is going into production ASAP (see comments about hours of time invested over a week) Derek, the change in the -proposed package implements the workaround others are suggesting, though it does it in the package, rather than rc.local. If somebody is willing to try out the -proposed package, and let us know here, we can allow it into -updates so all users will get it. You don't need to be affected by the bug to try it out, just follow the test case on a clean lucid VM (you can just configure a printer that doesn't exist) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Re: #52 It seems I was wrong again. It looks like the printers were loaded when I saved the smb.conf file, which of course restarts the service. Left alone, Samba, in my Maverick AMD64, will not periodically reload the printers and I still don't know why. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Re: #52 It seems I was wrong again. It looks like the printers were loaded when I saved the smb.conf file, which of course restarts the service. Left alone, Samba, in my Maverick AMD64, will not periodically reload the printers and I still don't know why. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Re #48 Clint, every time I have to restart Maverick 64 (hopefully seldon) I subsequently run sudo service smbd restart (too lazy and ignorant to put it on a script) because printers will not load in Samba. Can't remember if I had too do it on Lucid. Will try to leave the system alone for a few hours and see what happens but the last time I did it, I could not observe what Martin stated at #30 (samba reloads the printers every 750 seconds) by the way (can' help but notice), already commented at #32 on Oct, 2010. Could it be something with my config? This is a Mav. 64 clean install, no leftovers from Lucid (besides /home). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
System is on now for one hour (3600 secs) after a restart and no signal of a Samba reload as stated at #30. smbclient -L [..] correctly shows all shares but the printers. Either the same bug exists in Maverick 64 or a similar bug affects at least my system. Anything I could do besides sudo service smbd start? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Although the default smb.conf parameter printing equals to cups (printing = cups) unless the parameter printcap name is set (printcap name = cups) the printers do not load in the periodical samba reload process referred at #30, thus requiring a manual sudo service smbd restart. Since I try to keep my smb.conf as lean as possible, trying to keep the defaults, I didn't notice this up to some minutes ago when checked the smb.conf file at #42. My fault, sorry, feel really ashamed, but if one day someone arrives here looking for a solution for this bug while riding a Maverick or Natty my mistake can be useful. So Martin Pitt was right, in Maverick and (by the way) Natty, although CUPS isn't available at samba startup, and this is a nuisance, it is automatically reloaded according to the printcap cache time parameter which defaults to 750, (too much for me, reduced to 300 or five minutes printcap cache time = 300) providing you set printcap name = cups which, at the original smb.conf, looks like default but isn't... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
System is on now for one hour (3600 secs) after a restart and no signal of a Samba reload as stated at #30. smbclient -L [..] correctly shows all shares but the printers. Either the same bug exists in Maverick 64 or a similar bug affects at least my system. Anything I could do besides sudo service smbd start? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Although the default smb.conf parameter printing equals to cups (printing = cups) unless the parameter printcap name is set (printcap name = cups) the printers do not load in the periodical samba reload process referred at #30, thus requiring a manual sudo service smbd restart. Since I try to keep my smb.conf as lean as possible, trying to keep the defaults, I didn't notice this up to some minutes ago when checked the smb.conf file at #42. My fault, sorry, feel really ashamed, but if one day someone arrives here looking for a solution for this bug while riding a Maverick or Natty my mistake can be useful. So Martin Pitt was right, in Maverick and (by the way) Natty, although CUPS isn't available at samba startup, and this is a nuisance, it is automatically reloaded according to the printcap cache time parameter which defaults to 750, (too much for me, reduced to 300 or five minutes printcap cache time = 300) providing you set printcap name = cups which, at the original smb.conf, looks like default but isn't... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Re #48 Clint, every time I have to restart Maverick 64 (hopefully seldon) I subsequently run sudo service smbd restart (too lazy and ignorant to put it on a script) because printers will not load in Samba. Can't remember if I had too do it on Lucid. Will try to leave the system alone for a few hours and see what happens but the last time I did it, I could not observe what Martin stated at #30 (samba reloads the printers every 750 seconds) by the way (can' help but notice), already commented at #32 on Oct, 2010. Could it be something with my config? This is a Mav. 64 clean install, no leftovers from Lucid (besides /home). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Accepted cups into lucid-proposed, the package will build now and be available in a few hours. Please test and give feedback here. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed for documentation how to enable and use -proposed. Thank you in advance! ** Changed in: cups (Ubuntu Lucid) Status: Triaged = Fix Committed ** Tags added: verification-needed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/lucid-proposed/cups -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Accepted cups into lucid-proposed, the package will build now and be available in a few hours. Please test and give feedback here. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed for documentation how to enable and use -proposed. Thank you in advance! ** Changed in: cups (Ubuntu Lucid) Status: Triaged = Fix Committed ** Tags added: verification-needed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/lucid-proposed/cups -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Another even simpler thing to do would be to just add a 'service smbd reload' to the start action of the init script. ** Changed in: cups (Ubuntu Lucid) Status: Won't Fix = Triaged ** Changed in: cups (Ubuntu Lucid) Assignee: (unassigned) = Clint Byrum (clint-fewbar) ** Changed in: cups (Ubuntu Lucid) Importance: Undecided = Medium -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Ok I uploaded a package to lucid-proposed that reloads samba after start. I tested it with both cups and samba installed, and with samba never installed, removed and purged. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
re: #45 This bug was reported on 2009-12-08. At last some common sense at work. Hope it is also uploaded for Maverick. Thanks, Clint Byrum. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
Re: [Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Excerpts from Lucio M Nicolosi's message of Mon Apr 04 19:36:42 UTC 2011: re: #45 This bug was reported on 2009-12-08. At last some common sense at work. Hope it is also uploaded for Maverick. Lucio, maverick should not be affected because the cups upstart job reloads samba in its post-start, much like the changes to the lucid init.d script does. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Another even simpler thing to do would be to just add a 'service smbd reload' to the start action of the init script. ** Changed in: cups (Ubuntu Lucid) Status: Won't Fix = Triaged ** Changed in: cups (Ubuntu Lucid) Assignee: (unassigned) = Clint Byrum (clint-fewbar) ** Changed in: cups (Ubuntu Lucid) Importance: Undecided = Medium -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Ok I uploaded a package to lucid-proposed that reloads samba after start. I tested it with both cups and samba installed, and with samba never installed, removed and purged. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
re: #45 This bug was reported on 2009-12-08. At last some common sense at work. Hope it is also uploaded for Maverick. Thanks, Clint Byrum. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Excerpts from Lucio M Nicolosi's message of Mon Apr 04 19:36:42 UTC 2011: re: #45 This bug was reported on 2009-12-08. At last some common sense at work. Hope it is also uploaded for Maverick. Lucio, maverick should not be affected because the cups upstart job reloads samba in its post-start, much like the changes to the lucid init.d script does. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
There's a way to do this in lucid without modifying samba at all. # cups-sysv start on starting smbd stop on stopped smbd pre-start script invoke-rc.d cups start || : end script post-stop script invoke-rc.d cups stop || : end script #EOF This will ensure that cups is started before smbd. It will also introduce an error when we try to start/stop it again during rc2.d .. but that shouldn't be more than a nuisance (and we could always remove it from rc2.d in this pre-start) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
There's a way to do this in lucid without modifying samba at all. # cups-sysv start on starting smbd stop on stopped smbd pre-start script invoke-rc.d cups start || : end script post-stop script invoke-rc.d cups stop || : end script #EOF This will ensure that cups is started before smbd. It will also introduce an error when we try to start/stop it again during rc2.d .. but that shouldn't be more than a nuisance (and we could always remove it from rc2.d in this pre-start) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Hi, Thank you on comment #18 for the answer, but when trying to understand what was best to do, I tried that instead: start on (local-filesystems and started cups) and : - it IS working - this is best understandable What comes smbd should wait for something else than cups to solve *this* issue? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Hi, Thank you on comment #18 for the answer, but when trying to understand what was best to do, I tried that instead: start on (local-filesystems and started cups) and : - it IS working - this is best understandable What comes smbd should wait for something else than cups to solve *this* issue? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
** Attachment added: cupsd.conf https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/494141/+attachment/1764561/+files/cupsd.conf -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Sorry for the two posts, I couldn't work out how to attach more than one file to a comment! cupsd.conf and smb.conf as requested. IP addresses and domain names have been changed as per RFC1166 and RFC2606 respectively to protect privacy. ** Attachment added: smb.conf https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/494141/+attachment/1764562/+files/smb.conf -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Ian, thank you for your files. For me the configurations look correct. Can perhaps look a Samba expert into them? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
** Attachment added: cupsd.conf https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/494141/+attachment/1764561/+files/cupsd.conf -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Sorry for the two posts, I couldn't work out how to attach more than one file to a comment! cupsd.conf and smb.conf as requested. IP addresses and domain names have been changed as per RFC1166 and RFC2606 respectively to protect privacy. ** Attachment added: smb.conf https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/494141/+attachment/1764562/+files/smb.conf -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Ian, thank you for your files. For me the configurations look correct. Can perhaps look a Samba expert into them? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Can everyone with problems please also post /etc/cups/cupsd.conf and /etc/samba/smb.conf? Please attach the files one after the other, do not compress them. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Here my cups.conf file. Bug still present in Maverick 64 updated till Dec 12, 2010. ** Attachment added: cups.conf https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/494141/+attachment/1763671/+files/cups.conf -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Can everyone with problems please also post /etc/cups/cupsd.conf and /etc/samba/smb.conf? Please attach the files one after the other, do not compress them. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Patch #18 does not work for me on 10.04 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Patch #18 does not work for me on 10.04 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 Title: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
I've been running Ubuntu LTS Versions since 6.06 and doing the upgrades. I'm currently at 10.04 and I've got this exact same problem. I've tried adding in the fix listed in Comments #18 and #25 (the same fix), but that doesn't work at all - meaning Samba does not load at all and running smbtree gives me nothing. I have also tried putting the /etc/rc2.d/S50cups and move it to S05cups - but still doesn't work. I'm not sending the cups.conf file because I'm not on Maverick and it runs just fine if I stop and start cups then smbd Samba has been running fine with CUPS the last 3 1/2 years on that box with all the LTS updates applied and this last set broke a couple of things - but mostly CUPS / XSANE related. Any help or pointers appreciated -- CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
I've been running Ubuntu LTS Versions since 6.06 and doing the upgrades. I'm currently at 10.04 and I've got this exact same problem. I've tried adding in the fix listed in Comments #18 and #25 (the same fix), but that doesn't work at all - meaning Samba does not load at all and running smbtree gives me nothing. I have also tried putting the /etc/rc2.d/S50cups and move it to S05cups - but still doesn't work. I'm not sending the cups.conf file because I'm not on Maverick and it runs just fine if I stop and start cups then smbd Samba has been running fine with CUPS the last 3 1/2 years on that box with all the LTS updates applied and this last set broke a couple of things - but mostly CUPS / XSANE related. Any help or pointers appreciated -- CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
as of today on my 10.10 bug is still present (appling patch from #18 works) -- CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Anyone who has still problems on Maverick, please attach your /etc/init/cups.conf file. -- CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
as of today on my 10.10 bug is still present (appling patch from #18 works) -- CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Anyone who has still problems on Maverick, please attach your /etc/init/cups.conf file. -- CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
I can confirm this bug on 10.04 LTS fully updated as of today. I must say that it is really a snafu to have a server without any printers available via samba to clients when it boots. And there was no reload every 750secs as stated somewhere above. The server boots, printers are available locally via cups, but not via samba and an hour later the situation is still the same. -- CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
I can confirm this bug on 10.04 LTS fully updated as of today. I must say that it is really a snafu to have a server without any printers available via samba to clients when it boots. And there was no reload every 750secs as stated somewhere above. The server boots, printers are available locally via cups, but not via samba and an hour later the situation is still the same. -- CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Running AMD64 Maverick Beta 2010, 7 Oct. with all updates. This bug is still present. At least in this recent Maverick clean install (where I didn't apply the patch referred at #18) there's no samba reloading the printers every 750 seconds as stated at #30. Are there any Cups/Samba updates still to be released before Oct. 10? -- CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Running AMD64 Maverick Beta 2010, 7 Oct. with all updates. This bug is still present. At least in this recent Maverick clean install (where I didn't apply the patch referred at #18) there's no samba reloading the printers every 750 seconds as stated at #30. Are there any Cups/Samba updates still to be released before Oct. 10? -- CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
cups (1.4.4-5) unstable; urgency=low [ Martin Pitt ] * ubuntu-upstart.dpatch: Drop the dependency on starting smbd, it causes samba to hang on package upgrades or manual restarts. There doesn't seem to be a good way to express this dependency right now. (LP: #639768) Instead, send a SIGHUP to smbd if it is running, which causes it to reload printers. [ Till Kamppeter ] * pstops-based-workflow-only-for-printing-ps-on-a-ps-printer.dpatch: Let CUPS use the former PostScript-based filter chain only if the input file is PostScript and the printer is a PostScript printer with manufacturer-supplied PPD file. This avoids ugly PS-PDF-PS conversions which are bad for the performance and sometimes cause issues (Closes: #593338, requested by Ricoh). -- Martin Pitt mp...@debian.org Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:57:06 +0200 ** Changed in: cups (Ubuntu) Status: In Progress = Fix Released ** Changed in: cups (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = Martin Pitt (pitti) ** Changed in: samba (Ubuntu Lucid) Status: Triaged = Invalid ** Changed in: samba (Ubuntu) Milestone: ubuntu-10.10 = None ** Changed in: samba (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Invalid ** Changed in: samba (Ubuntu Lucid) Milestone: lucid-updates = None ** Changed in: cups (Ubuntu Lucid) Status: Invalid = Won't Fix -- CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
For lucid, Jelmer says that samba reloads the printers every 750 seconds anyway, so it's just a matter of waiting. Changing the cups init script to an upstart job is not an appropriate SRU. -- CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
Re: [Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
2010/9/17 Martin Pitt martin.p...@ubuntu.com: cups (1.4.4-5) unstable; urgency=low [ Martin Pitt ] * ubuntu-upstart.dpatch: Drop the dependency on starting smbd, it causes samba to hang on package upgrades or manual restarts. There doesn't seem to be a good way to express this dependency right now. (LP: #639768) Is Scott (maintainer of upstart) aware of this? -- CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
cups (1.4.4-5) unstable; urgency=low [ Martin Pitt ] * ubuntu-upstart.dpatch: Drop the dependency on starting smbd, it causes samba to hang on package upgrades or manual restarts. There doesn't seem to be a good way to express this dependency right now. (LP: #639768) Instead, send a SIGHUP to smbd if it is running, which causes it to reload printers. [ Till Kamppeter ] * pstops-based-workflow-only-for-printing-ps-on-a-ps-printer.dpatch: Let CUPS use the former PostScript-based filter chain only if the input file is PostScript and the printer is a PostScript printer with manufacturer-supplied PPD file. This avoids ugly PS-PDF-PS conversions which are bad for the performance and sometimes cause issues (Closes: #593338, requested by Ricoh). -- Martin Pitt mp...@debian.org Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:57:06 +0200 ** Changed in: cups (Ubuntu) Status: In Progress = Fix Released ** Changed in: cups (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = Martin Pitt (pitti) ** Changed in: samba (Ubuntu Lucid) Status: Triaged = Invalid ** Changed in: samba (Ubuntu) Milestone: ubuntu-10.10 = None ** Changed in: samba (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Invalid ** Changed in: samba (Ubuntu Lucid) Milestone: lucid-updates = None ** Changed in: cups (Ubuntu Lucid) Status: Invalid = Won't Fix -- CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
For lucid, Jelmer says that samba reloads the printers every 750 seconds anyway, so it's just a matter of waiting. Changing the cups init script to an upstart job is not an appropriate SRU. -- CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
2010/9/17 Martin Pitt martin.p...@ubuntu.com: cups (1.4.4-5) unstable; urgency=low [ Martin Pitt ] * ubuntu-upstart.dpatch: Drop the dependency on starting smbd, it causes samba to hang on package upgrades or manual restarts. There doesn't seem to be a good way to express this dependency right now. (LP: #639768) Is Scott (maintainer of upstart) aware of this? -- CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
pitti has upstartified CUPS now for the Maverick package. CUPS by itself works nicely with upstart, also on a system boot CUPS and Samba get started in the correct order. There is still fine tuning needed so that Samba does not hang when manually starting and stopping the CUPS and Samba services. ** Changed in: cups (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = In Progress ** Changed in: cups (Ubuntu) Milestone: None = ubuntu-10.10 -- CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
pitti has upstartified CUPS now for the Maverick package. CUPS by itself works nicely with upstart, also on a system boot CUPS and Samba get started in the correct order. There is still fine tuning needed so that Samba does not hang when manually starting and stopping the CUPS and Samba services. ** Changed in: cups (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = In Progress ** Changed in: cups (Ubuntu) Milestone: None = ubuntu-10.10 -- CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Potential issues with the proposed patch: - this is a workaround in the smbd job, not a correct fix, which will need to be reverted later. - in the (rare) event that a user has stopped smbd manually and then changes runlevels, current upstart will give a weird hang waiting for a second local-filesystems event. - if someone has configured a loopback cifs share to be mounted at boot time, their system will hang at boot as a result of this change. So there is regression potential here from the described change to the smbd job, and I'm not really in favor of this approach. Why has the cups package now gone more than two cycles without being converted to an upstart job, which would fix this properly? Also, why does samba not re-scan for a cups server? That seems like unnecessarily unreliable behavior on samba's part, and something that should be straightforward to fix correctly (and suitable for an SRU). -- CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Potential issues with the proposed patch: - this is a workaround in the smbd job, not a correct fix, which will need to be reverted later. - in the (rare) event that a user has stopped smbd manually and then changes runlevels, current upstart will give a weird hang waiting for a second local-filesystems event. - if someone has configured a loopback cifs share to be mounted at boot time, their system will hang at boot as a result of this change. So there is regression potential here from the described change to the smbd job, and I'm not really in favor of this approach. Why has the cups package now gone more than two cycles without being converted to an upstart job, which would fix this properly? Also, why does samba not re-scan for a cups server? That seems like unnecessarily unreliable behavior on samba's part, and something that should be straightforward to fix correctly (and suitable for an SRU). -- CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
The problem can very easily be solved for Maverick and Lucid LTS (SRU) by applying the solution presented in comment #18. This is especially the best method now as we are past Feature Freeze and so a switchover of CUPS to native Upstart is only possible for Natty. Especially important is also the SRU for Lucid, as LTS versions are preferably used for servers. So I am very grateful if the Samba maintainers could apply this simple patch. ** Changed in: samba (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid = Triaged ** Changed in: samba (Ubuntu Lucid) Status: Invalid = Triaged ** Changed in: samba (Ubuntu Lucid) Importance: Undecided = High ** Changed in: samba (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = High ** Changed in: samba (Ubuntu) Milestone: None = ubuntu-10.10 ** Changed in: samba (Ubuntu Lucid) Milestone: None = lucid-updates -- CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
The problem can very easily be solved for Maverick and Lucid LTS (SRU) by applying the solution presented in comment #18. This is especially the best method now as we are past Feature Freeze and so a switchover of CUPS to native Upstart is only possible for Natty. Especially important is also the SRU for Lucid, as LTS versions are preferably used for servers. So I am very grateful if the Samba maintainers could apply this simple patch. ** Changed in: samba (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid = Triaged ** Changed in: samba (Ubuntu Lucid) Status: Invalid = Triaged ** Changed in: samba (Ubuntu Lucid) Importance: Undecided = High ** Changed in: samba (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = High ** Changed in: samba (Ubuntu) Milestone: None = ubuntu-10.10 ** Changed in: samba (Ubuntu Lucid) Milestone: None = lucid-updates -- CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Mam(O)n's solution (#18) of modifying the 'start' line in /etc/init/smbd.conf to say start on (local-filesystems and stopped rc) worked for me, no other changes necessary. Thank you! -- CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 494141] Re: CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart)
Mam(O)n's solution (#18) of modifying the 'start' line in /etc/init/smbd.conf to say start on (local-filesystems and stopped rc) worked for me, no other changes necessary. Thank you! -- CUPS starts after SAMBA; printers are not available (convert cups to upstart) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/494141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
