[Bug 676222] Re: Broken/confusing keyboard navigation
** Changed in: indicator-datetime Status: Fix Released => Confirmed ** Changed in: ido Status: Fix Released => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/676222 Title: Broken/confusing keyboard navigation To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/676222/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 676222] Re: Broken/confusing keyboard navigation
Hi Javier, I'm still seeing this bug in a fully updated Oneiric. Which package versions should the fix be in? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/676222 Title: Broken/confusing keyboard navigation To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/676222/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 676222] Re: Broken/confusing keyboard navigation
This was fixed with the latest updates available in Oneiric ** Changed in: indicator-datetime Status: Confirmed => Fix Released ** Changed in: ido Status: Confirmed => Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/676222 Title: Broken/confusing keyboard navigation To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/676222/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 676222] Re: Broken/confusing keyboard navigation
** Changed in: unity-foundations Milestone: unity-3.8.6 => None ** Changed in: unity-foundations Assignee: Karl Lattimer (karl-qdh) => Ted Gould (ted) ** Changed in: indicator-datetime Assignee: Karl Lattimer (karl-qdh) => Ted Gould (ted) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/676222 Title: Broken/confusing keyboard navigation To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/676222/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 676222] Re: Broken/confusing keyboard navigation
** Changed in: unity-foundations Milestone: unity-3.8.4 => unity-3.8.6 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/676222 Title: Broken/confusing keyboard navigation -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 676222] Re: Broken/confusing keyboard navigation
For me the major problem I noticed besides smaller usability problems is that if I use only keyboard - ie. F10 to get to the menu and then navigate to indicators - if I get into the calendar widget, it seems there is _no key at all_ that can be pressed so that I could close the indicator or get out of the calendar widget. That means alt-tab, F10, Esc, arrows, nothing helps. Which means that without a pointing device, or eg. a broken pointing device, person is actually completely stuck inside the widget until forcefully rebooting the computer (or switching to terminal and killing some processes). At the very least handling Esc in the calendar widget to close the indicator before natty release should be done (if changing the widget to another gets delayed). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/676222 Title: Broken/confusing keyboard navigation -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 676222] Re: Broken/confusing keyboard navigation
** Changed in: unity-foundations Milestone: unity-3.8.2 => unity-3.8.4 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/676222 Title: Broken/confusing keyboard navigation -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 676222] Re: Broken/confusing keyboard navigation
** Changed in: unity-foundations Status: In Progress => Triaged ** Changed in: indicator-datetime (Ubuntu) Status: In Progress => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/676222 Title: Broken/confusing keyboard navigation -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 676222] Re: Broken/confusing keyboard navigation
I've created the following bug to group these calendar widget related issues; "IDO calendar should replace GtkCalendar wrapper with a grid layout menu" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ido/+bug/742370 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/676222 Title: Broken/confusing keyboard navigation -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 676222] Re: Broken/confusing keyboard navigation
Ok, put that on hold then. There are other bugs with a higher priority for now. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/676222 Title: Broken/confusing keyboard navigation -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 676222] Re: Broken/confusing keyboard navigation
After some deeper investigation it seems that no changes I make to the focus behaviour have any effect after restarting the indicator and the service. I tried removing the move-focus, select/deselect callbacks and yet the calendar still gets focus and doesn't let go. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/676222 Title: Broken/confusing keyboard navigation -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 676222] Re: Broken/confusing keyboard navigation
So I've checked in the code and it's definitely a case of either we can navigate the calendar with the keyboard, or we get stuck in it. This is another bug which points to us writing our own calendar widget. I'll see if I can ignore the focus of the calendar by keyboard navigation, however if you disable all the focus stuff you'll never be able to click on the month/year buttons or select a day. Prising these two bits apart might be tricky. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/676222 Title: Broken/confusing keyboard navigation -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 676222] Re: Broken/confusing keyboard navigation
** Changed in: unity-foundations Status: Triaged => In Progress -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/676222 Title: Broken/confusing keyboard navigation -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 676222] Re: Broken/confusing keyboard navigation
** Changed in: indicator-datetime (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => In Progress -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/676222 Title: Broken/confusing keyboard navigation -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 676222] Re: Broken/confusing keyboard navigation
@Karl: can you investigate whether IDO could ignore keyboard focus/navigation for the calender item? ** Changed in: indicator-datetime Assignee: (unassigned) => Karl Lattimer (karl-qdh) ** Tags added: a11y ** Also affects: unity-foundations Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: unity-foundations Assignee: (unassigned) => Karl Lattimer (karl-qdh) ** Changed in: unity-foundations Importance: Undecided => Medium ** Changed in: unity-foundations Status: New => Triaged ** Changed in: unity-foundations Milestone: None => unity-3.8.0-beta -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/676222 Title: Broken/confusing keyboard navigation -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 676222] Re: Broken/confusing keyboard navigation
Or, because that may require too much open heart surgery, prevent the keyboard focus to enter the calendar menu item at all, and just let the user navigate between "regular" items, up to the "Time & Date Settings..." one for example. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/676222 Title: Broken/confusing keyboard navigation -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 676222] Re: Broken/confusing keyboard navigation
In any grid menu layout (such as the calendar), the Left and Right keys will often do something special instead of opening the previous/next top-level menu as they usually do. This is no great problem; the same is true for submenu titles, for example. What is important is that you can quickly navigate out of the grid, back to a point where Left and Right *do* open the previous/next top-level menu. In this particular example, if a date in the first week of the month is highlighted, pressing Up once or (once bug 740821 is fixed) twice should return to a point where Left and Right will navigate to the previous/next top-level menu. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/676222 Title: Broken/confusing keyboard navigation -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 676222] Re: Broken/confusing keyboard navigation
** Changed in: indicator-datetime Status: New => Confirmed ** Changed in: indicator-datetime Importance: Undecided => Medium ** Changed in: indicator-datetime (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Medium ** Also affects: ido Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: ido Status: New => Confirmed ** Changed in: ido Importance: Undecided => Medium -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/676222 Title: Broken/confusing keyboard navigation -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 676222] Re: Broken/confusing keyboard navigation
Greg, I realise now I did indeed misunderstand the nature of this bug. I think the solution to this would be to require the user to use the up arrow to leave the current drop down menu and return to the panel. The expected behaviour is this case would be: 1) User clicks on a menu in the panel. The menu icon is highlighted with Ubuntu orange. 2) User clicks down to enter the menu, and does this several times. Each time the user presses the up/down arrow key while within the menu results in the menu item being highlighted in Ubuntu orange. This is the current behaviour. 3) Currently, the user can use the left/right arrow keys to cycle through the menus while focus is on one of the menu items i.e. they don't have to leave the menu. I think this should change. Instead, the user should be required to navigate back to the menu with the up arrow before they can move to an adjacent menu. This would solve the problem currently experienced with the Datetime menu in Natty. Confirming as a paper cut. ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: New => Triaged ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Importance: Undecided => Medium -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/676222 Title: Broken/confusing keyboard navigation -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 676222] Re: Broken/confusing keyboard navigation
Thank you for the comment Chris but I think you have missed the point of this bug. The problem is with the (new) Indicator applet (not with the old panel applet). ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: Invalid => New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/676222 Title: Broken/confusing keyboard navigation -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 676222] Re: Broken/confusing keyboard navigation
Thanks a lot for reporting this. The problem you describe arises from an inconsistency in the behaviour of the calendar applet and of the rest of the indicator applets. However, I have noticed from the latest 11.04 development release that the calendar applet has been redesigned to behave like the others, so there should no longer be a problem once Natty is released. Closing bug report. ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: New => Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/676222 Title: Broken/confusing keyboard navigation -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 676222] Re: Broken/confusing keyboard navigation
** Changed in: indicator-datetime (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed -- Broken/confusing keyboard navigation https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/676222 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 676222] Re: Broken/confusing keyboard navigation
** Also affects: hundredpapercuts Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Broken/confusing keyboard navigation https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/676222 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 676222] Re: Broken/confusing keyboard navigation
** Also affects: indicator-datetime Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Broken/confusing keyboard navigation https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/676222 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
