[Bug 681423] Re: [MIR] libssh2

2020-03-23 Thread Christian Ehrhardt 
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[Bug 681423] Re: [MIR] libssh2

2019-12-16 Thread Alex Murray
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[Bug 681423] Re: [MIR] libssh2

2019-12-16 Thread Christian Ehrhardt 
The nmap seed change is only in a few hours the demotion hasn't taken place yet.
So it will be a few more hours ... but then should appear in the archive as 
planned.

For curl the delta to convert it to libssh seems to do fine.
And we have no other package needing it right now.

So yes, lets mark it invalid.

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[Bug 681423] Re: [MIR] libssh2

2019-12-16 Thread Seth Arnold
Christian, thanks so much for the discussion. Should we now set this MIR
bug to Invalid?

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[Bug 681423] Re: [MIR] libssh2

2019-12-12 Thread Christian Ehrhardt 
After the discussion with the Team the consensus was for nmap to demote it from 
main.
It isn't needed on install media nor is is a core part of any solution - so 
there is no hard reason to be in main.
The tool can continued to be used as-is from the universe repo.

=> https://code.launchpad.net/~paelzer/ubuntu-
seeds/+git/ubuntu/+merge/376744

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[Bug 681423] Re: [MIR] libssh2

2019-12-12 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Merge proposal linked:
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[Bug 681423] Re: [MIR] libssh2

2019-12-12 Thread Christian Ehrhardt 
Hi Seth,
thanks for your reply on this long ongoing discussion.
Looking back it seems while the two libs are alternatives to each other things 
slowly tend to lean more towards libssh, so less reasons than int he past to 
promote it IMHO.

You brought up something interesting with nmap...


# General thoughts
I think nmap is still a common tool to use and needs to stay in main.
So lets strike unseeding it from the list of options.
For curl I have no deep insight/opinion - ack to for now keeping the delta 
there as is.

That leaves the question what we could do about nmap.


# Only libssh2?

The same considerations are needed for libdnet as well.
That also is used as bundled lib, should/could be split and use the in-archive 
version.
This can be checked via the nmap prefix:
# nmap --version | grep nmap-
Compiled with: liblua-5.3.3 openssl-1.1.1c nmap-libssh2-1.8.2 libz-1.2.11 
libpcre-8.39 libpcap-1.9.1 nmap-libdnet-1.12 ipv6

We see that libssh2 and libdnet are currently used as embedded libs.
But other than libssh libdnet is RECOMMENDED to be used built in:

-with-libdnet=DIR  Use an existing (compiled) dnet lib from DIR/include
and DIR/lib. This is NOT RECOMMENDED because we hav
made many important fixes to our included libdnet,
as described at
./libdnet-stripped/NMAP_MODIFICATIONS

Is that still true and valid, I have no idea.
It also doesn't seem to be the same as the libdnet built from src:dnprogs
So in this case is it no duplication, but for libssh2 it is.


# back to ssh2

I was checking what ssh2 support actually means for nmap (feature wise).
There are two major changes depending if it is configured.

The obvious one is in the makefile that adds:
  nse_libssh2.cc

The other loads potential scripts that need ssh2 support:
550 #ifdef HAVE_LIBSSH2 
 
551 {LIBSSH2LIBNAME, luaopen_libssh2},  
 
552 #endif

The problem even on a potential conversion is that these bindings are exposed 
to the scripts.
And that means potentially out-of-package scripts that would break on the 
change.
This makes it even more complex to consider asking for a switch to libssh.

I guess we have to consider between
a) MIR and own libssh2 after all
b) disable the ssh2 features in nmap, but keep it in main

We might want to:
build without ssh2 support and check if
a) ssh scripts won't work anymore (expected)
b) we still can e.g. probe for ssh port and how much we loose (e.g. server 
identification)

I'll talk to the Team and get back to you on this Seth.

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[Bug 681423] Re: [MIR] libssh2

2019-12-11 Thread Seth Arnold
Christian, I'm currently thinking we may be better served by:

- unseeding nmap from ubuntu-server (daily)
- removing nmap libssh2 vendored code and linking against the version in the 
archive
- keeping our delta in curl to use libssh

What do you think? Does the server team still need nmap seeded?

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[Bug 681423] Re: [MIR] libssh2

2019-12-09 Thread Seth Arnold
Hi Christian, sorry for the inconvenience, I meant Chris Coulson; he
reviewed libssh2 earlier and found issues for upstream to address.

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[Bug 681423] Re: [MIR] libssh2

2019-12-04 Thread Christian Ehrhardt 
Hi Seth,
do you mean me or "Chris Coulson" who is also subscribed?

If you meant me: As I said in comment #18, the reason to promote it for qemu is 
gone (that was my motivation to participate here), but curl/nmap would still 
benefit.
There are no further updates to this from my side.

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[Bug 681423] Re: [MIR] libssh2

2019-12-04 Thread Seth Arnold
Chris, do you recall if upstream responded sufficiently to your
findings? If they did, can you report back whether or not this package
should be promoted to main?

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[Bug 681423] Re: [MIR] libssh2

2019-10-29 Thread Christian Ehrhardt 
FYI: qemu switched to libssh, so we don't need it for that anymore.
Bu tunless it changed as Matthias outlined curl and nmap would still benefit.

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[Bug 681423] Re: [MIR] libssh2

2018-09-13 Thread  Christian Ehrhardt 
FYI: qemu would be able to drop one delta as well, not too important for
our users but nice to have (ssh to remote disks).

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[Bug 681423] Re: [MIR] libssh2

2018-06-06 Thread Matthias Klose
security team, please could you re-review this. There seem to be now at
least two users in main: curl and nmap

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[Bug 681423] Re: [MIR] libssh2

2017-09-11 Thread LocutusOfBorg
Ping? nmap is blocked by this, it has always been using its embedded
libssh2, and now it has moved to the system one.

I don't want to use embedded libssh2 libraries

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[Bug 681423] Re: [MIR] libssh2

2016-02-16 Thread Michael Terry
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[Bug 681423] Re: [MIR] libssh2

2016-02-15 Thread Adam Conrad
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[Bug 681423] Re: [MIR] libssh2

2014-11-13 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

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[Bug 681423] Re: [MIR] libssh2

2014-09-26 Thread Thomas Leavitt
Hey, we'd really like it if the packaged version of curl supported sftp,
it is unexpected from an end user standpoint when it doesn't, especially
given that the man page specifically says so:

curl  is  a tool to transfer data from or to a server, using one of the
supported protocols (DICT, FILE, FTP, FTPS, GOPHER, HTTP, HTTPS,  IMAP,
IMAPS,  LDAP,  LDAPS,  POP3, POP3S, RTMP, RTSP, SCP, SFTP, SMTP, SMTPS,
TELNET and TFTP).  The command is designed to work without user  inter‐
action.

***

The end user shouldn't have to run curl -V to find out that this is not
true for Ubuntu.

Looking through the comments here, it looks like the patches Robin Munn
submitted actually fix the issues identified. What's the block on
implementing this?

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[Bug 681423] Re: [MIR] libssh2

2013-01-22 Thread Robin Munn
It's been a month since I reopened this MIR, and no apparent activity.

@adconrad - Have you noticed anything else besides the possible problems
Kees Cook identified and I've submitted patches for? Are there any other
reasons why this package could not go into main? LP #311029 depends on
this getting resolved, and I'd like to see that one fixed in time for
Raring. Which means this one also needs action soon.

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[Bug 681423] Re: [MIR] libssh2

2012-12-19 Thread Michael Terry
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[Bug 681423] Re: [MIR] libssh2

2012-12-18 Thread Robin Munn
This MIR expired without a decision being made. But since a project I'm
working on needs bug #311029 to be fixed, and #311029 is in turned
blocked by this MIR, I'm reopening the MIR to hopefully make some
progress on it.

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[Bug 681423] Re: [MIR] libssh2

2012-12-18 Thread Robin Munn
One of the concernes that Kees Cook raised over this MIR was the
compile-time warnings about ignored return values. While those only
appear in example code and not in actual library code, it's always best
to heed the warnings the compiler gives. I've written a patch to fix the
compile-time warnings in the example code by actually checking the
return values and doing something about them.

** Patch added: no-more-unused-results-in-example-code.patch
   
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libssh2/+bug/681423/+attachment/3463521/+files/no-more-unused-results-in-example-code.patch

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[Bug 681423] Re: [MIR] libssh2

2012-12-18 Thread Robin Munn
The other concern was that the upstream tests should actually run at
build time. This patch addresses that concern.

** Patch added: run-tests-during-build.patch
   
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libssh2/+bug/681423/+attachment/3463522/+files/run-tests-during-build.patch

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[Bug 681423] Re: [MIR] libssh2

2011-04-22 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
[Expired for libssh2 (Ubuntu) because there has been no activity for 60
days.]

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[Bug 681423] Re: [MIR] libssh2

2011-01-21 Thread Daniel Stenberg
Those warnings are from the example code, not from code that is used in
the actual library. Upstream will still appreciate a patch to fix them
of course.

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[Bug 681423] Re: [MIR] libssh2

2011-01-20 Thread Kees Cook
I'd like to see a few things fixed up before this goes into main:

- build-time FORTIFY_SOURCE warnings should be appropriately fixed, for example:
  sftp.c: In function 'kbd_callback':
  sftp.c:78: warning: ignoring return value of 'fgets', declared with attribute 
warn_unused_result
  sftp.c: In function 'main':
  sftp.c:259: warning: ignoring return value of 'write', declared with 
attribute warn_unused_result

- I'd like to see the upstream tests actually run at build-time

Beyond that, it looks fine to me.

** Changed in: libssh2 (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Incomplete

** Changed in: libssh2 (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 681423] Re: [MIR] libssh2

2011-01-19 Thread Michael Terry
** Changed in: libssh2 (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 681423] Re: [MIR] libssh2

2010-11-29 Thread Martin Lindhe
I detect some agressivenes from Andreas Schneider here and also at bug #492931 
he claims FUD, but could you please clarify where this FUD is? 
Please do so in your blog and not here. This is a bug tracker and no place for 
personal vendettas. 

I do want to understand the situation as to where there is two libs for
the same thing, and have thus contacted Daniel from libssh2 / curl for a
response. He is currently in Thailand though so will get back from him
in a few weeks.

PS. i am not involved in libssh or libssh2... just trying to resolve a
user case issue (#311029)

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[Bug 681423] Re: [MIR] libssh2

2010-11-29 Thread Andreas Schneider
There are two libraries which implement the SSH protocol. Both are well
maintained and under active development. Developers prefer one or the
other, cause they have different feature sets. There is no reason to
replace libssh cause of that page. curl uses libssh2 and other
applications are using libssh.

You don't remove GTK from a distribution cause there is QT.

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[Bug 681423] Re: [MIR] libssh2

2010-11-29 Thread Andreas Schneider
libssh2 should be included in the distribution, but you should stop
forcing people to choose the libraries they want to use to develop
applications.

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[Bug 681423] Re: [MIR] libssh2

2010-11-28 Thread Andreas Schneider
Hi,

does this mean you want to rewrite kio_sftp and maintain it in future
cause you believe the FUD written down at http://www.libssh2.org/libssh2
-vs-libssh.html ?

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[Bug 681423] Re: [MIR] libssh2

2010-11-25 Thread Martin Lindhe
** Description changed:

- Rationale: 
-   * moving this to main would resolve lp bug #311029 
-   * its a (optional) dependency for curl, already in main
-   * it replaces libssh (already in main), have more features and being active 
developed; see feature comparison: http://www.libssh2.org/libssh2-vs-libssh.html
-   * all libssh2 build dependencies are already in main
+ Rationale:
+   * moving this to main would resolve lp bug #311029
+   * its a (optional) dependency for curl, already in main
+   * it can be made to replace libssh (already in main), have more features 
and being active developed; see feature comparison: 
http://www.libssh2.org/libssh2-vs-libssh.html
+   * however, libssh-depending apps would need to be updated so in the mean 
time it would need to duplicate what libssh does
+   * all libssh2 build dependencies are already in main
+   * i could not find any past security bugs for libssh2
  
  I've checked the MIR requirements as careful as I can. This is my first
  MIR request so please forgive me if i made a mistake.

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[Bug 681423] Re: [MIR] libssh2

2010-11-25 Thread Jonathan Thomas
I believe the comments in the libssh MIR are relevant here: bug 492931

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