[Bug 89189] Re: Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware
got the same problem on nvidia 9600GT! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/89189 Title: Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/89189/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 89189] Re: Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware
Java software like sqldeveloper have this defect with sun-java-5-bin use sun-java-6-bin is a good fix for me. For details see this : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/152040 -- Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/89189 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 89189] Re: Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware
Sorry, I was wrong. I thought that the patch that disables Offscreen Pixmaps hadn't been dropped. -- Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/89189 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 89189] Re: Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware
Guys, this bug is long fixed. Please open new bugs for your issues, however related they may seem. Please can someone change the status to Fix released? -- Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/89189 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 89189] Re: Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware
xorg-1.3 is in Gutsy. If you find that the problem persists in Gutsy, please reopen. @Nicolo: Your post is not clear. If running xorg-1.3 as it installs in Gutsy doesn't fix the problem of windows failing to render, then please reopen. Otherwise please file a new bug report. ** Changed in: xorg (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released -- Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/89189 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 89189] Re: Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware
sorry but after having read the changelog for the package it is always written that the option XAANoOfscreenPixmaps is enabled by default, so I don't really know how to test it... -- Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/89189 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 89189] Re: Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware
Nicolo, can you elaborate? Does xserver 1.3 provide a partial fix, or not at all? Anyone else able to confirm whether this fixes it? zeddock, I doubt we'll be backporting xserver 1.3 to feisty. It is possible that this specific fix could be backported to feisty, but not unless we're absolutely certain it fixes the issue and causes no additional issues. -- Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/89189 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 89189] Re: Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware
Sorry but I don't see any xorg-server 1.3 in gutsy... the current version is 1.2.0-3ubuntu8... has it been uploaded yet? -- Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/89189 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 89189] Re: Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware
yes it has, and built also. -- Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/89189 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 89189] Re: Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware
are you sure? I have archive.ubuntu.com in my sources.list but it's not appeared yet! -- Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/89189 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 89189] Re: Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware
I too would like to know how to apply fixes when the status changes to fix committed. It is still a mystery to me and leaves me thinkiing that I must wait until the next ubuntu version. That's not the case, right? Thanx! zeddock On 5/16/07, Nicolò Chieffo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: are you sure? I have archive.ubuntu.com in my sources.list but it's not appeared yet! -- Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/89189 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/89189 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 89189] Re: Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware
when the fix is committed it is firstly released to the developement version (Gutsy) and if it works it *might* be uploaded to feisty-updates too. -- Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/89189 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 89189] Re: Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware
I've tested it, video files are still not working (black screen) any suggestion of a java software to test if it works? -- Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/89189 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 89189] Re: Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware
xorg-server 1.3 advertises that it fixes this bug. Please test on gutsy's xserver 1.3 and reopen if it reoccurs. ** Changed in: xorg (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Fix Committed -- Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/89189 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 89189] Re: Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware
When will the fix be available for Feisty then? Thanx! zeddock On 5/15/07, Bryce Harrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: xorg-server 1.3 advertises that it fixes this bug. Please test on gutsy's xserver 1.3 and reopen if it reoccurs. ** Changed in: xorg (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Fix Committed -- Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/89189 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/89189 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 89189] Re: Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware
I can confirm this issue on a ATI Fire GL notebook (IBM ThinkPad T42p, model 2373-GTG) graphics card, using the ati driver. Enabling the XAANoOffscreenPixmaps options leaves me with a completely white screen, so this is (at least for me) no feasible workaround. -- Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/89189 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 89189] Re: Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware
The Java-related problem (blank windows) can be circumvented by doing an # export AWT_TOOLKIT=MToolkit before starting the Java app. However, I am unsure whether this is a Java/AWT or X11/Compiz problem. -- Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/89189 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 89189] Re: Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware
The Java-related problem is indeed a Java problem, because somehow Java needs to know the WM on Linux, but doesn't know beryl compiz (yet). The Java bug is located here: http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6509038 Several workarounds are located here: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Java -- Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/89189 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 89189] Re: Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware
Same problem here (Dell Inspiron 1300 with Intel915 video chip) : everything was running fine with the i810 driver under edgy (including compiz with cube etc) -- after upgrading to Feisty 7.04, I cannot run compiz anymore :( I got this error first: gnome-window-decorator GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is not available with direct rendering. If I uncomment the lines of /usr/bin/compiz script to get the recognition of direct/indirect rendering (I had no need for this under edgy...), I still have this errors when I run compiz: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ compiz --replace gconf gnome-window-decorator GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is not available with direct rendering. GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is available with indirect rendering. /usr/bin/compiz.real: No stencil buffer. Clipping of transformed windows is not going to be correct when screen is transformed. inotify_add_watch: No such file or directory Segmentation fault (core dumped) Avviso del window manager: Il valore «» nel database di configurazione non è valido per la scorciatoia «toggle_shaded» (last line in italian says: value in configuration database is not valid for the shortcut toggle_shaded) any hints? BTW: if I try to run compiz thru desktop-effects, i get the same errors but the first lines say: nvidia hardware not available gtk-window-decorator: Could not acquire decoration manager selection on screen 0 display :0.0 and then again: gtk-window-decorator: Could not acquire decoration manager selection on screen 0 display :0.0 GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is not available with direct rendering. GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is available with indirect rendering. /usr/bin/compiz.real: No stencil buffer. Clipping of transformed windows is not going to be correct when screen is transformed. inotify_add_watch: No such file or directory Segmentation fault (core dumped) Avviso del window manager: Il valore «» nel database di configurazione non è valido per la scorciatoia «toggle_shaded» -- Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/89189 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 89189] Re: Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware
same problem for me: some windows occasionally stop to refresh when desktop effects are enabled. i have a x300 ati video card. i'm using the new ubuntu 7.4, should i add the option in xorg.conf as well? -- Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/89189 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 89189] Re: Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware
That sounds like an issue with i810. I know that I have had that problem (with various other things, not directly with Desktop Effects) on an i810 setup with my Toshiba laptop. For example, sometimes switching from dual-head to single-head and back would make it so that a reboot was required before the X server would start back up again. X.org 7.2 seemed to fix most of those problems, though. Just a comment on the situation. -- Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/89189 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 89189] Re: Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware
This issue suddenly happened again out of nowhere on my i810 system - I now have XAANoOffscreenPixmaps enabled again in my config. Not sure if this is related but I'm also having window drawing issues with some Java-based apps on an nVidia system - some application windows just show up plain grey while others draw properly but don't resize - the window frame resizes and the empty space is filled with grey, the application believes the window has resized but it never gets drawn. -- Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/89189 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 89189] Re: Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware
I'm also seeing this consistently with some app windows on an HP zd7000 with Nvidia binary drivers. It happens consistently in certain apps. So far I've noticed it only in java programs. I'm using Java 6. Azureus works fine, but IntelliJ Idea behaves VERY badly with desktop effects. I see everything from blank grey window to missing window decorations. -- Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/89189 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 89189] Re: Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware
I can confirm Thom's experience with Java applications... On both i810 and nVidia I've got a Java application that behaves VERY badly - many windows do not draw properly (plain grey window with no contents) and resizing windows doesn't work properly either. A few windows do draw but resizing them just results in grey space filling the additional space added to the window. -- Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/89189 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 89189] Re: Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware
The fix works for me, but it seems only until I need to log out and log in again. After that it just stops working. I have to use the XAANoOffscreenPixmaps workaround to make it work reliably. Can anybody confirm that this is indeed not fixed? (Try by logging out and logging in again) ** Changed in: xorg (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Released = Needs Info -- Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/89189 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 89189] Re: Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware
I have this problem as well. -- Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/89189 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 89189] Re: Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware
In that case, I'll reopen. Problem is not fixed completely. ** Changed in: xorg (Ubuntu) Status: Needs Info = Confirmed -- Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/89189 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 89189] Re: Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware
I am on a Dell Dimension D800 with nv28, GeForce4 4200 and am seeing problem tonight after fresh install and complete update. Zeddock -- Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/89189 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 89189] Re: Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware
This new update broke something for me. I have an i915 GM graphic card and for the first time I can't get Gnome working. The screen is clipping and appear to freeze Gnome or make it unusable... My xsession-errors shows : /usr/bin/compiz: ... Segmentation fault (core dumpled) /usr/bin/compiz.real $COMPIZ_OPTIONS $@ $COMPIZ_PLUGINS libGL warning : 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b /usr/bin/compiz.real: No stencil buffer. Clipping of transformed windows is not going to be correct when screen is transformed. -- Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware https://launchpad.net/bugs/89189 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 89189] Re: Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware
After more investigation, I found out that what it causing this clipping problem is the compiz-extra package. -- Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware https://launchpad.net/bugs/89189 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 89189] Re: Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware
Blaaa, my email is lagging. Will check this fix out! ** Summary changed: - Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled + Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware ** Description changed: - The XAANoOffscreenPixmaps option is required to be on in Xorg.conf on - radeon hardware, otherwise many windows either show up blank or their - rendering freezes. + The XAANoOffscreenPixmaps option is required to be on in xorg.conf on + some graphics hardware/driver configurations, otherwise many windows + either show up blank or their rendering freezes. + + Known affected hardware: + • ATI R350 (radeon) + • ATI RV250 (radeon) + • ? (i810) + -- Original Description -- Binary package hint: gedit When saving in gedit, no text appears in save as dialog box. This also happens with other applications such as keyring on startup. ProblemType: Bug Date: Fri Mar 2 13:57:49 2007 DistroRelease: Ubuntu 7.04 Uname: Linux jussi-laptop 2.6.20-9-generic #2 SMP Mon Feb 26 03:01:44 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux -- Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware https://launchpad.net/bugs/89189 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 89189] Re: Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware
** Description changed: The XAANoOffscreenPixmaps option is required to be on in xorg.conf on some graphics hardware/driver configurations, otherwise many windows either show up blank or their rendering freezes. Known affected hardware: + • ATI R300 (radeon) • ATI R350 (radeon) • ATI RV250 (radeon) • ? (i810) -- Original Description -- Binary package hint: gedit When saving in gedit, no text appears in save as dialog box. This also happens with other applications such as keyring on startup. ProblemType: Bug Date: Fri Mar 2 13:57:49 2007 DistroRelease: Ubuntu 7.04 Uname: Linux jussi-laptop 2.6.20-9-generic #2 SMP Mon Feb 26 03:01:44 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux -- Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware https://launchpad.net/bugs/89189 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 89189] Re: Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware
** Description changed: The XAANoOffscreenPixmaps option is required to be on in xorg.conf on some graphics hardware/driver configurations, otherwise many windows either show up blank or their rendering freezes. Known affected hardware: • ATI R300 (radeon) • ATI R350 (radeon) • ATI RV250 (radeon) - • ? (i810) + • Intel (i810) -- Original Description -- Binary package hint: gedit When saving in gedit, no text appears in save as dialog box. This also happens with other applications such as keyring on startup. ProblemType: Bug Date: Fri Mar 2 13:57:49 2007 DistroRelease: Ubuntu 7.04 Uname: Linux jussi-laptop 2.6.20-9-generic #2 SMP Mon Feb 26 03:01:44 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux -- Some windows do not render with Desktop Effects enabled on some hardware https://launchpad.net/bugs/89189 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs