Re: Gthumb as default image viewer?
On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 12:04 -0400, Andrew SB wrote: I think you touch on the real issue here. It's not so much a problem with viewing photos, as we all have noted there are already two options, EOG when you are in a folder and F-Spot for collections. The real problem is that those programs aren't image editors and the GIMP is a tool for advanced users. GThumb doesn't solve this problem either. We have been discussing this on the desktop team as well. I would love to see eog support cropping and red-eye removal (it already rotates). I think that this, along with f-spot, would cover the key user scenarios. I think that f-spot is a good program, and a lot of users do manage large photo libraries, and it is appropriately tuned for those users in those scenarios. Cheers, Rick -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Gthumb as default image viewer?
On ven, 2009-07-03 at 10:12 +0100, Rick Spencer wrote: I think that f-spot is a good program, and a lot of users do manage large photo libraries, and it is appropriately tuned for those users in those scenarios. For me, the main problem is that I have a collection of pictures scattered across multiple media. This is in general a problem with every collection manager around. I don't keep my collection on a single computer, on one hand because I don't want it, it's huge, on the other hand because the system does not help: I would need to import them separately in all my computers. V. -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Gthumb as default image viewer?
Le vendredi 03 juillet 2009 à 06:59 -0700, Tim Zakharov a écrit : I think it's worth mentioning again, but slightly off-topic, that we really need in F-Spot, to uncheck Copy files to the Photos folder as a default setting in the Import dialog. This assumes you want your photos in said folder, in your home directory, and one must remember *each time* one imports photos, to uncheck this box if you choose your photos to be in a different destination. Imagine for the first time running F-spot, and importing your collection of 30,000 photos you store on an external drive, and not noticing this setting. Hours later, when the file copy completes, your home directory now has no free space. Now imagine each time you import more photos, you forget to uncheck this setting, then must manually delete the photos it copied over. This to me is a terrible feature of F-spot, which is otherwise a very decent photo organizer. Good candidate for a paper cut, isn't it? F-Spot should remember your last choice at least, even if we can argue that the default should be to copy files. Maybe we could also check the media the photos are on, and check the box by default accordingly (e.g. you want to copy photos coming from a camera or flash card). Would you report a bug as such against both f-spot in Ubuntu and hundredpapercuts? Thanks! -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Gthumb as default image viewer?
On Sat, 2009-07-04 at 00:00 +0200, Milan Bouchet-Valat wrote: Le vendredi 03 juillet 2009 à 06:59 -0700, Tim Zakharov a écrit : I think it's worth mentioning again, but slightly off-topic, that we really need in F-Spot, to uncheck Copy files to the Photos folder as a default setting in the Import dialog. This assumes you want your photos in said folder, in your home directory, and one must remember *each time* one imports photos, to uncheck this box if you choose your photos to be in a different destination. Imagine for the first time running F-spot, and importing your collection of 30,000 photos you store on an external drive, and not noticing this setting. Hours later, when the file copy completes, your home directory now has no free space. Now imagine each time you import more photos, you forget to uncheck this setting, then must manually delete the photos it copied over. This to me is a terrible feature of F-spot, which is otherwise a very decent photo organizer. Good candidate for a paper cut, isn't it? F-Spot should remember your last choice at least, even if we can argue that the default should be to copy files. Maybe we could also check the media the photos are on, and check the box by default accordingly (e.g. you want to copy photos coming from a camera or flash card). Would you report a bug as such against both f-spot in Ubuntu and hundredpapercuts? Thanks! It appears to already be reported in Launchpad and upstream. Bug report 270238. I can't see how to nominate this bug for hundredpapercuts? However, I did see a duplicate (393406) where the bug reporter was told this is a bug in the program, not a papercut. I don't want to make waves by trying to report as a papercut when someone already decided it wasn't. Thanks for the feedback. -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Thanks, and newest Ubiquity slideshow mockups
Dear Matthew Paul Thomas, Thanks for your comprehensive reply. I appreciate it. I would have written sooner, but I've been working hard on my next batch of slideshow mockups (nope, I haven't given up on it yet) and I wanted them to be ready to show you by the time I wrote back. Please take a look at them at http://ubuntuwtf.wordpress.com/2009/07/03/some-more-slideshow-mockups/ Though I am sincerely thankful for your comprehensive and thoughtful suggestions as to how I might channel my interest and enthusiasm, I'm feeling I'm being pulled in other directions. I'm finding, basically, that I enjoy two things: a) drawing and using GIMP to express my design ideas, and b) communicating with others, connecting people who are working on different things in different fields, and initiating and facilitating discussions. To that point, I'm continuing creating mockups for the Ubiquity slideshow. Perhaps I'll convince them to abandon building it with WebKit and Javascript, using CSS/HTML slides, and just build an old-fashioned image slideshow. That way, we could spend less time on mechanism (the slideshow), and more time on content (the slides) - sounds like a good mantra to me. I also figure, with all the Megs of space they'll save by ditching WebKit, they'll have plenty of space to design nice, luscious slides, and still fit in onto the Live CD, with space to spare. One thing the Canonical Design team hopes to do in the next few months is publish guidelines for volunteers on how to carry out this kind of testing. I look forward to those guidelines when they are published. Until then ... since you are interested in helping Ubuntu devs and volunteers become better at design, I though I'd share an other idea of mine. Actually, it's more of a half-formed idea ... nonetheless. I think it would be great to have a website where Ubuntu devs can ask for design proposals for the projects they are working on. Put another way, it would be great to have a single website (a one-stop shop) where interested designers and illustrators can go, find a particular project to contribute to, and then submit their design proposals -- kinda like what I've been doing with the Ubiquity slideshow, but without this website. I just feel, we have had some great success in building an open source software ecosystem. Wouldn't it be great (and help Ubuntu reach Mark S's goals of making it as pretty and intuitive to use as Mac OSX), if we could foster a great open source design ecosystem? I mean, so far we have the Creative Commons, which has helped many artists license their work with open source licenses. Then we have Jono Bacon, facilitating the Ubuntu Free Culture Showcase. All that is fair and well, but I think there are plenty of people who would like to do more than just submit designs for the next Ubuntu wallpaper, or GTK+ theme. I'm sure there are others out there, like me, who would like to submit mockups as proposals for how parts of the system might look. I'd be curious to see what people would come up with - a new way of interacting with the user for: installing software, software updates, burning DVDs, who knows? And who knows what inspiration those designs might trigger? We might see a renewed interest in the GNOME community (who seem to think that GNOME Shell is a step forward), to consider new designs, new approaches. Just a thought. Again, thanks for listening, and I very much look forward if you have any feedback to any of this, or to my latest slideshow mockups. Thanks again. Cheers, Howard Freeman Stellar. -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
