httpS download of iso images
Please, in the name of most Ubuntu users, who will NOT verify their downloaded image using GPG, make the default download from the official website use httpS. Thank You (Many users do not have a web of trust set up, to properly use gpg, but can rely on the public key infrastructure, given that public keys of certificate authorities are shipped with their existing OS and browser.) -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
nvidia-387.34 after update Plasma won´t start anymore
Hello Last night my nvidia-387 gettting upgraded, after reboot Plasma won´t work anymore. I now have downgraded to nvidia-384, so it works again. But I wish to use the nvidia.387 again, is there something I can do to make it work again? I am running Kubuntu 16.04 LTS (32Bit) and a nvidia GeForce GTX 1070 GPU Thanks, -- -=== Jan-Peter Rühmann & Kuma ===- Gubkower Str.7 [ Tel.: +49 (38205) 65484 (Privat) ] Mail: jan-pe...@ruehmann.name 18195 Cammin [ Tel.: +49 (38205) 65215 (Firma) ] Web: http://www.ruehmann.name Deutschland [ FAX: +49 (38205) 65212 ] [ Mobil: +49 (162) 1316054 ] Beruf:IT-Servicetechniker ICQ: 288192920 Ring: JPRuehmann WhatsApp: 491621316054 Twitter: @JPRuehmann -- Die Verwendung der Daten zu Werbezwecken ist verboten. -- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
How to get Supervisor bug in Ubuntu 16.04 LTS fixed?
Dear Ubuntu developers,
The output of $(dpkg-query --show --showformat='${Maintainer}'
supervisor) brought me to this list. According to
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss this list
serves the purpose of a "point of contact for Ubuntu users to reach
Ubuntu developers" and I am writing to you from this perspective.
In Ubuntu 10.04, 12.04 and 14.04 after running `apt-get install
supervisor' the Supervisor daemon would automatically be enabled (to
start on boot) and started (so that Supervisor was running by the time
apt-get returned).
Shortly after trying out Ubuntu 16.04 I found out that the Supervisor
daemon is no longer automatically enabled nor is it started during
installation. This breaks compatibility with previous and expected
behavior. In June '16 I reported this issue as a bug against the
supervisor package on Launchpad.net: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1594740
Apart from people confirming that the problem affected them it was quiet
in that bug report for a while, but a few hours ago the Debian package
maintainer replied that the bug was recently fixed in Debian unstable!
This leaves me wondering if there is a remote chance of getting this bug
fix into Ubuntu 16.04 (given that 16.04 is the latest Ubuntu LTS release
and it will be for quite a while)...
The supervisor release in Debian unstable that fixes this issue combines
several unrelated changes (as far as I can judge) including a new
upstream release of the supervisor package, so I don't suppose anyone
will be amused by the idea of simply copying the Debian unstable package
to Ubuntu 16.04 LTS which was released quite a few months ago :-).
Is there another way to get this bug fix into Ubuntu 16.04? I'm willing
to back port the minimal changes required to have correct maintainer
scripts generated :-) but I wouldn't know how to actually get the
changes into a released version of Ubuntu...
Long story short: Who do I contact to either 1) prod them to fix the bug
or 2) guide me in getting the bug fixed?
Thanks for reading,
Peter Odding
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suggest policy: all GUI apps that display files/folders right-click copies full path
When I use Nautilus, or look at Desktop, I see representations of many
files and folders. I want a very quick right-click method to copy the
fullpathname of such items.
Am I missing this? Does it exist already?
It would be very useful to me and probably to many users.
It would also be "culturally consistent" with Mozilla software.
*** ***
INSTEAD, TODAY, in order to "drop" full text pathnames of these
files/folders into (say) TERMINAL, I must laboriously construct the full
pathname. I must copy the filename (or foldername) and I must also copy
(or, in case of DeskTop, type from memory) the path.
Thus I need two operations to obtain
path / filename
It's crazy. I'm surprised no-one's proposed this before.
I want to skip the labor. I want a facility like FireFox and ThunderBird
provide where, when you
right-click something
you get a drop-down menu which INCLUDES
copy-this-item
which produces a saved ("copied") text
which may be "pasted" elsewhere.
It works for email addresses, URLs
UBUNTU should make this sort of thing work for ALL GUIs which display
files or folders.
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Bug Report: libpam-cgfs - Admin Privileges lost in UI
Package: libpam_cgfs Version: 2.0.0~rc5-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.04.1~ppa1 Host Version: Ubuntu 14.04 fully patched Source of the package: http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-lxc/lxd-stable/ubuntu Hey guys - quick report on a pretty bad regression in libpam_cgfs. Effect: Total loss of admin privileges in Unity desktop even though user is in group sudo. Symptom: Options to modify settings in nm-applet are greyed out so cannot control networking. Options to change user in users settings greyed out etc. Error Logs: gnome-session reports cannot get session. Is pam_systemd being used? It appears that the pam_systemd plugin is not present due to pam_cgfs.so being in the pam session plugin configuration in /etc/pam.d/common-session. If I comment this line sessionoptionalpam_cgfs.so -c freezer,memory,name=systemd Everything works again. Conclusion something is broken in pam_cgfs.so and that's causing side effects with other pam plugins and this ripples through all the way to the desktop. Cheers, Peter -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
libstdc++ with gcc 4.9 on ubuntu 15.10
Hi -
I am the developer of a CUDA library and the users recently reported a bug for
ubuntu 15.10. As CUDA currently does not support gcc 5.*, I have to compile all
host binaries with gcc-4.9. The funny thing, my build system bails out with the
following error message when linking to libboost_unit_test_framework which I
was able to reproduce with the attached source code:
$ gcc-4.9 -D_GLIBCXX_USE_CXX11_ABI=0 external_main_example_1.cpp
-lboost_unit_test_framework
tmp/ccDk5v3M.o: In function
`boost::unit_test::make_test_case(boost::unit_test::callback0
const&, boost::unit_test::basic_cstring)':
external_main_example_1.cpp:(.text._ZN5boost9unit_test14make_test_caseERKNS0_9callback0INS0_9ut_detail6unusedEEENS0_13basic_cstringIKcEE[_ZN5boost9unit_test14make_test_caseERKNS0_9callback0INS0_9ut_detail6unusedEEENS0_13basic_cstringIKcEE]+0x42):
undefined reference to
`boost::unit_test::ut_detail::normalize_test_case_name(boost::unit_test::basic_cstring)'
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
The above follows the recommendations from
https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/libstdc++/manual/using_dual_abi.html. Note that,
if I build boost with gcc 4.9 on 15.10, the above works as expected.
I was wondering if this is a known feature of the ubuntu boost distro? Are
there any workarounds to this, that I potentially overlooked?
Best,
Peter
#ifndef BOOST_TEST_DYN_LINK
#define BOOST_TEST_DYN_LINK
#endif
#include
#include
using namespace boost::unit_test;
////
void free_test_function( int i, int j )
{
BOOST_CHECK_EQUAL( i, j );
}
////
bool
init_function()
{
framework::master_test_suite().
add( BOOST_TEST_CASE( boost::bind( _test_function, 1, 1 ) ) );
framework::master_test_suite().
add( BOOST_TEST_CASE( boost::bind( _test_function, 1, 2 ) ) );
framework::master_test_suite().
add( BOOST_TEST_CASE( boost::bind( _test_function, 2, 1 ) ) );
// do your own initialization here
// if it successful return true
// But, you CAN'T use testing tools here
return true;
}
////
int
main( int argc, char* argv[] )
{
return ::boost::unit_test::unit_test_main( _function, argc, argv );
}
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mysql server 5.0 on ubuntu 8.10
This ubuntu system has mysql server 5.0.67 installed. The most recent mysql 5.0 version is 5.0.87. However running... sudo apt-get install mysql-server-5.0 elicits the response: mysql-server-5.0 is already the latest version which isn't so. How do I fix this? G. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
q: development status of procmail
Hi, I'd like to know the current development status of procmail, as I hadn't much luck in reporting a regex bug recently. Is there still a live upstream or is the historic procmail.org all that remains? Thanx for an update on this issue, Peter FIY: Background: With a the perceived lack of development and maintenance I'm also a quite a bit concerned about say UTF8, which was way less of a topic in era 2001, but is increasing and matching against encoded header strings in utf8 might become more than just nice-to-have. (And NO: restriciting matching in classic procmail recipe fashion to ascii is increasingly insufficient: e.g. allow for just a measly half a dirty dozen of umlauts. Quoted is bad enough, but the mailer might choose to encode the entire header. The only thing that's worse is chars above 0x80 in headers and body and no sender-provided indication at all for either latin or UTF8 And umlauts nicely differ in utf8 vs latin; and there's enough Asian full UTF8 spam around to _not_ add recipes trying to outguess bad senders in order to auto-decode UTF8) -- cu Peter jak...@acm.org -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
updated package for python-qt3 / python-sip4?
Hi, I tried to install the package luma and stumbled on the following dependency-problem: python-qt3: Hängt ab: python-sip4 (= 4.8) aber 4.8.1-1~jaunty1 soll installiert werden Seems like I have a newer version of python-sip4 installed through backports together but python-qt3 does not allow this. Is there any chance that an updated package dependency will be made available? Greetings, Mark -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Replace PulseAudio with OSS v4?
I just want to add to this, this story is a rather inaccurate portrayal of OSSv4 / ALSA: http://insanecoding.blogspot.com/2009/06/state-of-sound-in-linux-not-so-sorry.html *However* -- check comments for dawhead. That's Paul Davis of JACK weighing in. Obviously, integration of all these things could be much better than it is; that's a given. But the perception that ALSA is somehow deficient from a quality standpoint seems to me to be distorted. ALSA works very well from a pro audio standpoint when combined with JACK, once you get it all working -- and even on a 'pro' machine, in combination with Pulse Audio for your day-to-day consumer tasks. (This is effectively what's happened on Windows, as well, with Vista/7's beefed-up mixing for consumers in DirectSound and such, and ASIO remaining the choice for serious low-latency work.) And Luke is absolutely right, some of these oddities of OSSv4 I think are deal killers. The last thing anyone wants right now is another massive shakeup - better to keep working through ALSA issues. But, generally, don't listen to me, listen to Paul. :) I hear he's also got a presentation in development on these issues, which would be really helpful; there aren't many people who have both the perspective of being the JACK developer *and* an app developer (Ardour) -- not on any OS. Peter http://createdigitalmusic.com On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Luke Yelavich them...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 07:52:45AM EST, Daniel Chen wrote: Lower sound quality is a red herring. ALSA's default resampler has known and quite audible limitations. The available resamplers in PulseAudio demolish the lower sound quality FUD. Jaunty shipped a configuration using a craptastic one in an attempt to balance CPU usage with perceptive quality. Lessons learned: Karmic will ship with a much better (but more CPU-intensive) resampler. I'd like to add that on a technical level, OSS v4 does audio mixing in the kernel, and uses floating point maths, which is strictly forbidden in the official mainline kernel. Trying to get such code even into the Ubuntu kernel will be similar to getting blood out of a stone. Luke -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Compiling Ubuntu 7.04's kernel from source
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 5:04 PM, John McCabe-Dansted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Peter Teoh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I started compiling the kernel as provided by Ubuntu source ISO and I compiled the source codes for Linux Kernel as modified by Ubuntu, downloaded from the source codes ISO provided. And the error during the compilation process happened as described before. encountered the following error while compiling: /sda2/linux-source-2.6.20-2.6.20ALSA lib confmisc.c:670:(snd_func_card_driver) cannot find card '0' ALSA lib conf.c:3500:(_snd_config_evaluate) function What command did you just type? (Not ALSA lib surely?) I think we should move this offlist, since this is more of a bug or support request than discussion relating to development of Ubuntu. Well, I am just doing some bug reporting for Ubuntu. Not sure where to go. But when I switched to Fedora Core to compile the kernel there is completely no problem. And if I compile the source codes git-pulled from Linus tree, INSIDE THE Ubuntu 7.04 environment, there is no issue: CC [M] sound/sound_core.o LD [M] sound/soundcore.o CC [M] sound/ac97_bus.o CC [M] sound/core/oss/mixer_oss.o CC [M] sound/core/oss/pcm_oss.o CC [M] sound/core/oss/pcm_plugin.o CC [M] sound/core/oss/io.o CC [M] sound/core/oss/copy.o CC [M] sound/core/oss/linear.o CC [M] sound/core/oss/mulaw.o CC [M] sound/core/oss/route.o CC [M] sound/core/oss/rate.o LD [M] sound/core/oss/snd-mixer-oss.o LD [M] sound/core/oss/snd-pcm-oss.o CC [M] sound/core/seq/seq_device.o CC [M] sound/core/seq/seq_dummy.o CC [M] sound/core/seq/seq_midi_emul.o CC [M] sound/core/seq/seq_midi_event.o CC [M] sound/core/seq/seq_midi.o CC [M] sound/core/seq/seq_virmidi.o CC [M] sound/core/seq/seq.o CC [M] sound/core/seq/seq_lock.o CC [M] sound/core/seq/seq_clientmgr.o CC [M] sound/core/seq/seq_memory.o CC [M] sound/core/seq/seq_queue.o CC [M] sound/core/seq/seq_fifo.o CC [M] sound/core/seq/seq_prioq.o CC [M] sound/core/seq/seq_timer.o CC [M] sound/core/seq/seq_system.o CC [M] sound/core/seq/seq_ports.o CC [M] sound/core/seq/seq_info.o LD [M] sound/core/seq/snd-seq.o LD [M] sound/core/seq/snd-seq-device.o LD [M] sound/core/seq/snd-seq-midi-event.o LD [M] sound/core/seq/snd-seq-dummy.o LD [M] sound/core/seq/snd-seq-virmidi.o LD [M] sound/core/seq/snd-seq-midi.o LD [M] sound/core/seq/snd-seq-midi-emul.o CC [M] sound/core/seq/oss/seq_oss.o CC [M] sound/core/seq/oss/seq_oss_init.o CC [M] sound/core/seq/oss/seq_oss_timer.o CC [M] sound/core/seq/oss/seq_oss_ioctl.o CC [M] sound/core/seq/oss/seq_oss_event.o CC [M] sound/core/seq/oss/seq_oss_rw.o CC [M] sound/core/seq/oss/seq_oss_synth.o CC [M] sound/core/seq/oss/seq_oss_midi.o CC [M] sound/core/seq/oss/seq_oss_readq.o CC [M] sound/core/seq/oss/seq_oss_writeq.o LD [M] sound/core/seq/oss/snd-seq-oss.o CC [M] sound/core/hwdep.o CC [M] sound/core/memalloc.o CC [M] sound/core/sgbuf.o CC [M] sound/core/pcm.o CC [M] sound/core/pcm_native.o sound/core/pcm_native.c: In function 'snd_pcm_fasync': sound/core/pcm_native.c:3262: warning: label 'out' defined but not used CC [M] sound/core/pcm_lib.o CC [M] sound/core/pcm_timer.o CC [M] sound/core/pcm_misc.o CC [M] sound/core/pcm_memory.o CC [M] sound/core/rawmidi.o CC [M] sound/core/rtctimer.o CC [M] sound/core/timer.o CC [M] sound/core/sound.o CC [M] sound/core/init.o CC [M] sound/core/memory.o CC [M] sound/core/info.o CC [M] sound/core/control.o CC [M] sound/core/misc.o CC [M] sound/core/device.o CC [M] sound/core/isadma.o CC [M] sound/core/sound_oss.o CC [M] sound/core/info_oss.o CC [M] sound/core/vmaster.o LD [M] sound/core/snd.o LD [M] sound/core/snd-hwdep.o LD [M] sound/core/snd-timer.o LD [M] sound/core/snd-rtctimer.o LD [M] sound/core/snd-pcm.o LD [M] sound/core/snd-page-alloc.o LD [M] sound/core/snd-rawmidi.o CC [M] sound/drivers/dummy.o CC [M] sound/drivers/mtpav.o CC [M] sound/drivers/mts64.o CC [M] sound/drivers/portman2x4.o CC [M] sound/drivers/virmidi.o LD [M] sound/drivers/snd-dummy.o LD [M] sound/drivers/snd-virmidi.o LD [M] sound/drivers/snd-mtpav.o LD [M] sound/drivers/snd-mts64.o LD [M] sound/drivers/snd-portman2x4.o CC [M] sound/drivers/mpu401/mpu401_uart.o CC [M] sound/drivers/mpu401/mpu401.o LD [M] sound/drivers/mpu401/snd-mpu401-uart.o LD [M] sound/drivers/mpu401/snd-mpu401.o CC [M] sound/drivers/opl3/opl3_lib.o CC [M] sound/drivers/opl3/opl3_synth.o CC [M] sound/drivers/opl3/opl3_seq.o CC [M] sound/drivers/opl3/opl3_midi.o CC [M] sound/drivers/opl3/opl3_drums.o CC [M] sound/drivers/opl3/opl3_oss.o LD [M] sound/drivers/opl3/snd-opl3-lib.o LD [M] sound/drivers/opl3/snd-opl3-synth.o CC [M] sound/drivers/opl4/opl4_lib.o CC [M] sound/drivers/opl4/opl4_mixer.o CC
Re: Problem with yum etc after installing Ubuntu 7.10.....
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Christopher Halse Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the other hand, I'm don't think that installing programs through yum is a good idea on an Ubuntu system. I may be wrong here, though. Why do we even have that package? :) First thank you to everyone here...I am new in this Ubuntu. Firstly i have two requirements: a. I need git to do linux kernel development. b. I need flash for my firefox. So I downloaded the rpm file. So in Fedora Core, normally I will do yum install xxx.rpm where xxx.rpm is the downloaded flash rpm file from adobe, and yum automatically will do a recursive download of all dependent packages and install it at the same time. rpm cannot do that. Sorry for all these...for flash I think I found the answer in: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy and for the kernel I found it here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelGitGuide Ok...problem solvedthank you for the guide on git-core everyone ...etc! -- Regards, Peter Teoh -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Problem with yum etc after installing Ubuntu 7.10.....
a. install ubuntu b. apt-get install yum* c. apt-get install git Next I tried git, I got command not found, but reattempted to apt-get install git will give me: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp# apt-get install git Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done git is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 211 not upgraded. I tried to yum install some other stuff, I got the following: There was a problem importing one of the Python modules required to run yum. The error leading to this problem was: No module named cElementTree Please install a package which provides this module, or verify that the module is installed correctly. It's possible that the above module doesn't match the current version of Python, which is: 2.5.1 (r251:54863, Oct 5 2007, 13:36:32) [GCC 4.1.3 20070929 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.1.2-16ubuntu2)] If you cannot solve this problem yourself, please send this message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Can someone help? -- Regards, Peter Teoh -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
RE: Interfacing nvidia graphics cards and acpi brightness
(Answering my own question) Clues are found here: http://http.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/169.12/README/index.ht ml http://http.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/169.12/README/index.h tml Nvidia say that ACPI and hotkeys hasn't been implemented for all cards yet but might be in the future for more recent ones. A couple of XConfig options to play around with were: Option ConnectToAcpid boolean Option EnableACPIHotkeys boolean No luck for the Quadro FX 570M as far as I could tell I still think that it should be possible to implement ACPI compatibility through an some sort of abstraction layer by linking ACPI events to nvidia-settings so that there would be no need to wait for nvidia. Alternatively one could play with the open source Nouveau drivers http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Newman Sent: Tuesday, 18 March 2008 11:52 PM To: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Interfacing nvidia graphics cards and acpi brightness Hi I started out tonight with the aim of adding a bug because my compaq 8510w brightness function keys have never worked under Ubuntu Gutsy and now not under Hardy Heron alpha 6 either. However what I have found is that there is no bug to report :) The gnome-power-manager works okay but doesn't change screen brightness. I.e. hitting the function key does change the current value here: $ cat /proc/acpi/video/C14B/C15F/brightness levels: 100 51 30 37 44 51 58 65 72 79 86 93 100 current: 65 Also adjusting the nvidia-settings brightness values actually changes the screen brightness (and the nvidia card registers) but nothing for the acpi video brightness value. I've also found that I can adjust the screen brightness by using the nvidia commandline interface: $ nvidia-settings --assign RedBrightness=x --assign GreenBrightness=x --assign BlueBrightness=x where x is a value between -1 and 1. So where now - there is no bug? I've looked at smartdimmer and nvclock. These packages don't work for all nvidia cards and seem to be risky to use. Especially when there is a nvidia-settings package available which can already do this. So I think that acpi should be linked to nvidia-settings somehow (I suppose this should be the responsibility of nvidia). Would a acpi-nvidia package work (where acpi and nvidia-settings are prerequistes and also an active nvidia kernel/xserver) that matches acpi video and xserver screens and sychronises registry settings? Cheers Pete -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Interfacing nvidia graphics cards and acpi brightness
Hi I started out tonight with the aim of adding a bug because my compaq 8510w brightness function keys have never worked under Ubuntu Gutsy and now not under Hardy Heron alpha 6 either. However what I have found is that there is no bug to report :) The gnome-power-manager works okay but doesn't change screen brightness. I.e. hitting the function key does change the current value here: $ cat /proc/acpi/video/C14B/C15F/brightness levels: 100 51 30 37 44 51 58 65 72 79 86 93 100 current: 65 Also adjusting the nvidia-settings brightness values actually changes the screen brightness (and the nvidia card registers) but nothing for the acpi video brightness value. I've also found that I can adjust the screen brightness by using the nvidia commandline interface: $ nvidia-settings --assign RedBrightness=x --assign GreenBrightness=x --assign BlueBrightness=x where x is a value between -1 and 1. So where now - there is no bug? I've looked at smartdimmer and nvclock. These packages don't work for all nvidia cards and seem to be risky to use. Especially when there is a nvidia-settings package available which can already do this. So I think that acpi should be linked to nvidia-settings somehow (I suppose this should be the responsibility of nvidia). Would a acpi-nvidia package work (where acpi and nvidia-settings are prerequistes and also an active nvidia kernel/xserver) that matches acpi video and xserver screens and sychronises registry settings? Cheers Pete -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Minimal Hardy Alpha Images
Hi! Is it possible to create minimal cd images of hardy alpha releases? I think about an image that is less than 100MB and contains only the absolute necessary packages to run the live cd. Add a torrent for this image and testing alpha releases would be _much_ easier. Right now I have to download more than 600MB. I promise to test _every_ alpha release if you provide such an image. ;) ps -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: GIMP *final* release for Gutsy?
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:47:34 +1100 Sarah Hobbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg K Nicholson wrote: We'd only have to do this *once* for each package of which a non-final version was released in Ubuntu final. Once the final version of the package is available, there need be no more updates (beyond what are already done). Hopefully a commitment to doing this extra packaging work after the Ubuntu release would dissuade us from including non-final package releases in final Ubuntu releases. I suspect that if we actually had people offering to do this (and this is quite similar to the already-existing backports), and did reasonable QA tests, etc, then this would all become more feasible. But, when you're trying to stretch already busy people, who are mostly volunteers, and will tend to work on whatever they like, and to try and fit them into your mold of what you want them to do, you're always going to meet trouble. So, anyone willing to step up to work on stable release updates? If Ah yes, BUT you need to be a MOTU to upload new releases and the process of becoming a MOTU or contributions by non-MOTU has been discussed before. Just see the archives here (GetDeb Project (Why I participate)) or on the MOTU list (Subject: non-MOTU Hopeful contributions (was:: GetDeb Project (Why I participate)) you don't know packaging, you can learn it. Same applies to bug triaging. Don't even bother giving excuses such as I can't program, I can't do actual development - well, start with something simpler like bug triage, and then work your way up. How do you think the current developers got where they did? All these excuses seem to be hiding the major excuse - I want this fixed, but I want someone else to fix it for me, and don't want to have to put in the hard work myself Well I package software, I'm just not a MOTU for reasons discussed in the previously mentioned threads. Just a thought... Hobbsee -- Peter van der Does GPG key: E77E8E98 IRC: Ganseki on irc.freenode.net Blog: http://blog.avirtualhome.com Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GetDeb Package Builder http://www.getdeb.net - Software you want for Ubuntu signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: GIMP *final* release for Gutsy?
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:52:29 +1100 Christopher James Halse Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But you don't need to be a MOTU to do the work, and since gimp is in main, it doesn't much help being a MOTU either. The uploading to the archives part is by far the quickest and simplest part of the whole process. Once you've updated the packaging, and tested it thouroughly yourself it will be much less work (read: much more likely to happen) for the core-dev to pick it up, check it for sanity, and (hopefully) upload to gutsy-proposed. Where you now get to thoroughly test it before it gets into -updates. It's not as simple is that, you need a sponsor for your patches to be approved. And currently there are 45 bugs in the sponsorship queue, 5 are committed, 4 in progress, 3 triaged, 16 confirmed (one as late as 2006-03-03) and 17 new the oldest dating back to 2006-12-14. So it comes down to workload at the MOTU side. I won't discuss this here anymore, like I mentioned we have had this thread before on two mail listings. Not helping because you don't have upload privilages to the archives seems a pretty poor excuse. You really don't need to be able to upload directly to the archives to usefully contribute! You don't have to be aiming to become a MOTU in order to usefully contribute. Chris Halse Rogers -- Peter van der Does GPG key: E77E8E98 IRC: Ganseki on irc.freenode.net Blog: http://blog.avirtualhome.com Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GetDeb Package Builder http://www.getdeb.net - Software you want for Ubuntu signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Azureus was - Re: GIMP *final* release for Gutsy?
On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 23:32:03 -0500 Scott Kitterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 10 November 2007 21:49, Peter wrote: I understand the point of view of not fixing bugs at the end life of a cycle, but certain software updates aren't in Ubuntu yet while new version have been out for a while now. Azureus for example is still 2.5.0.0 in the official repo while 3.0.2.2 has been out before the package freeze for Gutsy. Azureus is a special case. The packaging was sufficiently convoluted that no developer was willing to touch it. I substantially more sane package has been uploaded to Hardy and work is ongoing to backport it (need to backport iced tea first). Scott K I checked the source of Azureus and the patches applied made me back away from trying to update it but now you are saying because of the patches applied by the Ubuntu developers even they couldn't update it anymore? So what's in place to have this not happen anymore? Because it can happen to any package. -- Peter van der Does GPG key: E77E8E98 IRC: Ganseki on irc.freenode.net Blog: http://blog.avirtualhome.com Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GetDeb Package Builder http://www.getdeb.net - Software you want for Ubuntu signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: GIMP *final* release for Gutsy?
On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 21:03:20 -0800 Aaron C. de Bruyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aaron C. de Bruyn: Upgrading simply because there is a newer version number is the wrong attitude. It's not that fact that it's a newer version (number): it's that it's a final, stable release versus a non-final non-stable release. And what makes a release stable or non-stable? The version number? No. It's the code that goes into it. So unless you are running into a bug, there is no need to take a developer away from working on Gutsy to have him fix a problem that no one is having. -A So what is it that an Ubuntu developer develops for Gimp? I thought it was the Gimp developers who developed Gimp. If I find a bug in Gimp I will address it with the Gimp developers and not with an Ubuntu developer. That's like saying if you run into a bug with Firefox on windows you'll write Microsoft. I appreciate the patches that Ubuntu developers make, I've seen them when creating packages but when an update of a package comes out, not a major release but a minor one like Gimp 2.4-rc3 - 2.4.0 - 2.4.1 , it's my believe you'll only have to check if your patches are still relevant. Is it Ubuntu's policy to do QA on all the packages it puts in the repositories? -- Peter van der Does GPG key: E77E8E98 IRC: Ganseki on irc.freenode.net Blog: http://blog.avirtualhome.com Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: GIMP *final* release for Gutsy?
On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:50:27 +0900 Emmet Hikory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 10, 2007 9:22 PM, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what is it that an Ubuntu developer develops for Gimp? I thought it was the Gimp developers who developed Gimp. If I find a bug in Gimp I will address it with the Gimp developers and not with an Ubuntu developer. That's like saying if you run into a bug with Firefox on windows you'll write Microsoft. Ubuntu developers perform three major activities (and lots of others), specifically packaging available software, patching that software to address reported bugs, and working to integrate that software with the rest of the distribution. If an issue is encountered with a package, it is much preferable to report it to Ubuntu, as it may or may not affect the upstream package (and the Ubuntu developers will forward the report if it does). Because of the patches created by the Ubuntu developers you'll have to report it to Ubuntu developers which means a big workload compared to releasing the package as provided by the original developers. I appreciate the patches that Ubuntu developers make, I've seen them when creating packages but when an update of a package comes out, not a major release but a minor one like Gimp 2.4-rc3 - 2.4.0 - 2.4.1 , it's my believe you'll only have to check if your patches are still relevant. Any comments for this one??? Is it Ubuntu's policy to do QA on all the packages it puts in the repositories? Yes, every update to a release goes through a QA process to ensure that it does not cause regressions in behaviour. Packages in each development cycle are tested thorugh a series of Alpha and Beta releases, where the developers attempt to address any discovered outstanding bugs. Further, near the end of a development cycle, and for the life of a supported release, effort is made to not update the software in such a way that might introduce new bugs, specifically meaning that while additional patches are applied to address old bugs, new version are only very rarely imported, to reduce the chance of a new change causing additional bugs. I understand the point of view of not fixing bugs at the end life of a cycle, but certain software updates aren't in Ubuntu yet while new version have been out for a while now. Azureus for example is still 2.5.0.0 in the official repo while 3.0.2.2 has been out before the package freeze for Gutsy. -- Peter van der Does GPG key: E77E8E98 IRC: Ganseki on irc.freenode.net Blog: http://blog.avirtualhome.com Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: OpenOffice.org 2.2 release candidate 2 available for testing
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 07:15:19AM +, Conrad Knauer wrote: Erm... I have no idea how to use chroot ^_-; (I'm really more of an advanced user than a developer :) debootstrap -- 5o Peter.Mann at tuke.sk -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: UI for backports usage
On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 09:23:33AM -0400, John Dong wrote: An apturl approach would require the archive to create a separate section for each package and a meta all section like Debian Backports, which I guess can be done but is more complex. http://www.backports.org/debian/dists/etch-backports/Release NotAutomatic: yes -- 5o Peter.Mann at tuke.sk -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: GetDeb Project (Why I participate)
OK, I don't want to hijack this thread but after reading mostly negative comments I would like to say somethings about why I participate in GetDeb. A little bit of history, I stumbled upon GetDeb when I was looking for Pidgin. Back then it wasn't available in Feisty and I wanted to use the latest version. When I saw the website I got very excited about the goal to supply the latest software for Ubuntu. The main reason why I started creating packages for Getdeb was the fact it was so easy to participate. I created an updated package and within two days it was up on the site. I tend to create packages I use myself or I believe it is a great asset to Ubuntu. This is one of the reason you won't see me creating packages for games at the moment. I did check to see if I could help out creating packages for as some call it, the inside Ubuntu community. All I could find was becoming a MOTU which is a whole process and I wasn't, and I'm still not, ready for that. Not until this thread I found out that for backports it's different. I will check out the backport process and see if I could help out there as well. I won't abandon the Getdeb project, it's a great project to participate in. -- Peter van der Does GPG key: E77E8E98 IRC: Ganseki on irc.freenode.net Blog: http://blog.avirtualhome.com Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: petervanderdoes GetDeb Package Builder http://www.getdeb.net - Software you want for Ubuntu signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: GetDeb Project (Why I participate)
Sebastien Bacher wrote: Le mercredi 17 octobre 2007 à 09:24 -0400, Peter (Ubuntu List) a écrit : The main reason why I started creating packages for Getdeb was the fact it was so easy to participate. I created an updated package and within two days it was up on the site. I tend to create packages I use myself or I believe it is a great asset to Ubuntu. This is one of the reason you won't see me creating packages for games at the moment. Hi, That's a good example of something not easy to backport and I would be curious to know how you made sure that your pidgin packages was not breaking other packages using gaim (various gaim plugins, nautilus-sendto, etc). Did you provide piding variant of those with dummy transition packages, correct Conflicts informations, updated Depends? Or did you just shipped the new version without consideration for those issues? Sebastien Bacher I didn't create the Pidgin package, so I can't really comment on that. But for the packages I created I do check them if it's really working without glitches, depends checked. I don't just ship out versions without considering those issues. And example is the updated Liferea package, they changed their way of storing the feeds to sqlite, so yes I made sure the depends included that too. I create packages with pbuilder and then test them in a chrooted default installation environment. -- Peter van der Does GPG key: E77E8E98 IRC: Ganseki on irc.freenode.net Blog: http://blog.avirtualhome.com Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: petervanderdoes GetDeb Package Builder http://www.getdeb.net - Software you want for Ubuntu signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
A graceful exit....
Fellow Ubunteros, Ubuntites, and other Ubuntuphiles, Balance in life is everything, and sometimes demands in one area take too much time from others. Sadly, such is the case with my Ubuntuing in various mailing list and groups and fora. In order to devote the time deserved to other priorities, I've need to withdraw from active Ubuntu participation (with decidedly mixed emotions!). To make as graceful an exit as possible, I will be unassigning or reassigning any bugs or pages assigned to me, and following up as best I can on any items I should. If you are awaiting a comment or response from me, please follow up with me directly. Thanks to everyone in the Ubuntu community for a fantastic community experience and fantastic computer experience! Keep up the utterly fantastic work, pww signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Open Port Indicator?
On Thu, 2007-15-03 at 14:14 +0100, Soren Hansen wrote: I asked for a use case where it made sense to allow access without any form of authentication. If no one comes up with a proper use case I'll just hack together a patch that makes it impossible. There are at least four use cases, each of which requires a different level of authentication/access. UC1:Jen needs remote access to her machine. Remote authentication should be (at least) the same as local authentication, i.e., userid and password. This should be the default option when enabling Remote Desktop (e.g., Enable remote desktop for known users, or for known user X, userid and password required). By default, this setting would persist across sessions. This could be disabled, making it one time only (that is, until logout or reboot). As an improvement, there could be a time filter (during these hours only), a domain filter (yes, spoofable, but perhaps of value), an IP or Mac filter (ditto), etc. UC2:Bif needs assistance with a problem and invites a remote friend to connect and drive, so Bif can watch and learn. In this case, Remote Desktop could prompt the current local user to enable the connection from the remote friend (e.g., an Enable remote assistance option, where each connection is vetted by the current local user (Someone is accessing your machine from A.B.C.D - do you wish to permit this connection?) No or no answer within X seconds means no; yes means yes; a third option could be yes, for Y minutes (max value 30, after 30, prompt again). When the current sessions ends (logout, reboot, etc.), Remote Desktop returns to its default, disabled. In other words, if Bif had previously enabled UC1, he must reenable explicitly after using UC2. UC3:Fritz is setting up a classroom or other contained environment, and wishes to be able to access all local machines quickly and easily (for whatever reason). He selects Enable Remote Desktop without authentication, is warned this is potentially risky, and is then prompted to enter the shutoff time/period, i.e., the time/period after which Remote Access will be disabled and will return to the default of no access. Remote Access reverts to disabled after logout/reboot. UC4:Barbara is a security researcher setting up a honeypot. She wants to enable Remote Access without authentication. This is a special case of UC3: No authentication, no time limit. She selects no time/period, is asked to confirm this is what she really meant, perhaps even twice, three times, whatever makes us comfortable. UC1 and UC2 would require no additional authentication (userid and password in UC1, local confirmation in UC2). UC3 and UC4 could require root privileges, e.g., require the use of gksudo. This would reduce the likelihood of just some person taking advantage of an unlocked local keyboard. Alternatively, UC[1234] could require the user to authenticate themselves when enabling the option, further reducing this risk. pww signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
