Re: [ubuntu-art] Alternate Natty Wallpaper Proposal
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Сергей shnat...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I want to add my two cents because I've been a wiki admin for 1,5 years, and there are established and time-proved traditions of handling proposals and making decisions. I'll try to provide a summary of them: 1. Every collaborative task must be proposed to wider audience and accepted or declined by the community. 2. It must be absolutely evident that a proposal is just a proposal and may be changed or declined. As a consequence, it must not be located in production namespaces (read: keep it in personal ) 3. Decisions are made by reaching consensus of opinion, not by voting. 4. Admins have absolutely the same authority in making decisions as non-admins do. I'd be very happy if this is accepted for Artwork team as a rule. Regarding the initial topic, I think it's insane to have one pool for photos and illustrations alike. They cannot be judged in the same way nor compared; it's like comparing meters and kilograms. And I personally think that increasing community presence in default Ubuntu installation is great. A pick of top community themes (probably different in every release) also would be a perfect addition to look and feel of Ubuntu. One more thing. I doubt Canonical will endorse or not endorse this initiative. If I were Ivanka, I'd wait and see what it turns out, and then decide if any of these wallpapers make their way into default installation. Either way they must be at least available as a package from universe repository. Respectfully, -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art +1 Thank you, John -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Do you have good links to the Blender, Processing or a particular artwork community?
Hi! I just posted about the Edubuntu and Xubuntu wallpaper thing. This will appear on Planet Ubuntu: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2010/12/14/designing-wallpapers-for-edubuntu-and-xubuntu/ (I mentioned Lubuntu as often as I received replies to my last mail in that matter) I think we should invite users of Blender, Processing and any other free/open graphics applications and generative tools. Same for members of communities centering on illustration/drawing/photography. Please help with this, especially if you have a standing in a particular community. Go there, write an announcement/invitation in the appropriate place and manner. Act as point of contact. Tell us about your activity. If people have a problem with Flickr, make sure submissions are still collected in one place and we know about it. Few will care about Xubuntu and Edubuntu, but creating images that convey the desired message is an interesting challenge. That's the angle to sell this on. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Do you have good links to the Blender, Processing or a particular artwork community?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 11:34:32 +0100 Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de wrote: Hi! I just posted about the Edubuntu and Xubuntu wallpaper thing. This will appear on Planet Ubuntu: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2010/12/14/designing-wallpapers-for-edubuntu-and-xubuntu/ (I mentioned Lubuntu as often as I received replies to my last mail in that matter) I think we should invite users of Blender, Processing and any other free/open graphics applications and generative tools. Same for members of communities centering on illustration/drawing/photography. Please help with this, especially if you have a standing in a particular community. Go there, write an announcement/invitation in the appropriate place and manner. Act as point of contact. Tell us about your activity. If people have a problem with Flickr, make sure submissions are still collected in one place and we know about it. Few will care about Xubuntu and Edubuntu, but creating images that convey the desired message is an interesting challenge. That's the angle to sell this on. Thank you for the blog entry. It is very difficult to generate interest in these derivatives. However, for some of us, it is at least as important as Ubuntu wallpaper. I really appreciate your help and interest. - -- Charlie Kravetz Xubuntu Interim Project Lead Linux Registered User Number 425914 [http://counter.li.org/] Never let anyone steal your DREAM. [http://keepingdreams.com] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNB1w+AAoJEFNEIRz9dxbAhdQIAJ2pmXyaR1lOfjkj4V5P+l/x 3Yae28bJ+jrJRjHuviiuYPqhGBQpLRY/DobX2UfhBCkiU/L9l+OGpc70JeRSimyu Y+5zMVi12a2MeIZpnVOzSPmPEvESijaSSWyMditCnFLl7HQ2+AI05122iZDx+Dut JwQDlvWGSwBMdZw/MpXYr+IRXnbawZE520uhdykQwa/48X0by2Gm4VLL4bDdOwu5 18e8OnB9mAssK3o+NeFMb2Iv5UgzAGu2bX5YjnUmm7MQ+VCfnz7cdfJ/6Yu0QU32 oRGBTitQwQ74ILrlPXHW7+DoF48HmzEp5kv5NNfjwDudxtmSI35s82bJyLTvm+c= =4AZK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Do you have good links to the Blender, Processing or a particular artwork community?
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 5:34 AM, Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de wrote: Hi! I just posted about the Edubuntu and Xubuntu wallpaper thing. This will appear on Planet Ubuntu: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2010/12/14/designing-wallpapers-for-edubuntu-and-xubuntu/ (I mentioned Lubuntu as often as I received replies to my last mail in that matter) I think we should invite users of Blender, Processing and any other free/open graphics applications and generative tools. Same for members of communities centering on illustration/drawing/photography. Please help with this, especially if you have a standing in a particular community. Go there, write an announcement/invitation in the appropriate place and manner. Act as point of contact. Tell us about your activity. If people have a problem with Flickr, make sure submissions are still collected in one place and we know about it. Few will care about Xubuntu and Edubuntu, but creating images that convey the desired message is an interesting challenge. That's the angle to sell this on. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art Thorwil, +1 to Charlie's comments! Thank you. Best regards, John -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Personal Appeal for Change
Vish, With respect and without malice I am asking that you please stop deleting Wiki content and restore the content you removed. Kind regards, John -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Alternate Natty Wallpaper Proposal
On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 11:27 -0500, John Baer wrote: On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Vishnoo v...@ubuntu.com wrote: However, It is not clear what this alternative wallpaper task is meant for? Is this aimed as an addition to default wallpaper? And to be included in the ubuntu-wallpapers package? How different is it from the flickr submissions from the community: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFreeCultureShowcase (This page is a bit outdated, there is another one somewhere out there.) AFAIK in the past all of the alternate wallpapers come as photo's from the Ubuntu Flickr group noted above. My proposal is to open this up for illustrations. Or is it for a replacement of the default wallpapers done by Canonical team? I am unaware of Canonical's desire. As noted above this UbuntuFreeCultureShowcase is still closed. No, kindly do your groundwork before forming conclusions and starting new processes. It hasnt started for this Natty cycle. As mentioned earlier, there is a section for illustrations too. More info that the process is not closed: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2010-November/012476.html Already announced on this very same artwork-mailing list. Also see gobby document : multimedia-design-n-freeculture-showcase https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/multimedia-design-n-freeculture-showcase You were already subscribed to the blueprint. And I'v just moved the gobby document contents to the blueprint. If you are having trouble finding resources or plans for the upcoming cycle, just ask. Someone who knows, where they could be located, will just direct you. This rash behavior is starting to get highly counter-productive and bordering on being disruptive. -- Vish -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Alternate Natty Wallpaper Proposal
Regarding the initial topic, I think it's insane to have one pool for photos and illustrations alike. They cannot be judged in the same way nor compared; it's like comparing meters and kilograms. I don't think comparing illustrations to photos is more problematic than comparing landscape and macro photography ;) Skipping this whole discussion of wiki-fu,, which I have no opinions in; I respectfully disagree, when comparing 2 types of photos the skillset to look for quite similar. Skill of photographer, framing, interestingness of subject matter etc... With illustrations its a similar skillset, but the values placed on certain items are different. Exactly for this reason the submissions should be in the pool, where the jury will see them in any case. Not to mince my words here, but the jury is a bunch of philandering photographers, and not likely to select any illustration wallpapers. They have no way of tapping into the breadth of experience which lets them choose macro shots of flowers and rope for every release. If we are to have illustration wallpapers, let me throw this up: lets make a smaller pool of illustrative artwork, and yes, moderate it ourselves. But at the end of this cycle lets put up a community-illustration-wallpapers package out on the repos. This has the added benefit of testing: 1. seeing how many quality submissions there are. 1.1 this may mean (collective groaning) looking through DA group. and convincing those artists to contribute. 2. seeing if official ubuntu is interested. 2.1 if yes, then they can take over moderating the next cycle 2.2 if no, then the least they can do is throw up a blog post (3.1) 3. seeing if we as a team can get enough people to actually install our packages. 3.1 whether we can drum up some publicity for this package 4. if it all goes down the crapper, then we are left with a few good submissions for the community wallpaper package. Cons: 1.It's work that may ultimately produce nothing 2. (click the reply button, I know you all have some things.) -- Saleel -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Please complete our survey
On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 21:30:00 +, Ivanka Majic ivanka.ma...@canonical.com wrote: Hello everyone, Please can you take the time to fill in this survey? http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/36WWXCF ... It will probably take about 15 minutes to complete and, the more detail you include the better! Best, Ivanka 15 minutes indeed, that was quiet a long survey.. :p Anyways. I read the question about: How do find out about new projects? Now I've looked at this question and compared all ways I ever found out about a project, theirwhere three: IRC, website/wiki, ML. I found that non would be a perfect solution. Especially for big groups they all have their downsides: * A website or wiki (whitout a reminder in the ML or IRC) allways has a lack of notification. Therefor it isn't a good idea as many people will forget to check for it. * IRC is the way I usually find out about projects of Ubuntu-be. But we have only a small core of members and every real decision is made via the IRC channel. (Or at least clarified via IRC) That's why we have an IRC meeting every week. But when you are with +200 members the IRC would be to bulky, also with the timezones and stuff not even half of all people would get to the IRC meetings. * So the only other solution is the ML. Especially for big groups of people this is a nice way to communicate. It rules out the need of being online at the same time, everyone checks their mails so will be notified and you are sure everyone gets the info he needs. But there is a problem with the ML. When posting reports of meetings or guidelines or whatever there isn't really a problem, as long everything is clear that is. And lets face it, not everything is clear all the time. People have questions about details, there has to be some chatting to get every1 on the same track. The ML isn't a sufficient way to do that: In an IRC message you can chat quite fast about something but on an ML it takes days to get something solved. With 9 projects running currently and different questions going for each project you get either a dozen mails a day or just 2 message1...10 mails. Something like: 1. Re: Alternate Natty Wallpaper Proposal (Thorsten Wilms) 2. Re: Alternate Natty Wallpaper Proposal (John Baer) ... 6. Re: Alternate Natty Wallpaper Proposal (Thorsten Wilms) 7. Re: Alternate Natty Wallpaper Proposal (Vishnoo) 8. Please complete our survey (Ivanka Majic) isn't always that clear. So after thinking everything true I personally think that in an ideal situation for Ubuntu-Artwork: - IRC meetings provide answer to big concerns - reports of the meetings are send via the ML - proposals and new project approvals are announced in the ML - each project has his own landing page on the wiki (as it is now) [but with a subscribe to sub-ML button] - each project has his own sub-ML regarding only things about that project (so you don't get bothered with questions about project that don't interest you) - each landing page has a log of the sub-ML messages (so people joining later can get a good overview about what has been said). I'd love to know how you guys think about this! [yes I know this will make the ML even more full of things no-one wants to read] PS: I loved the survey, I hope a lot of useful information can be gathered from it. kind regards woutervddn -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Alternate Natty Wallpaper Proposal
On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 09:48 -0500, Saleel Velankar wrote: If we are to have illustration wallpapers, let me throw this up: lets make a smaller pool of illustrative artwork, and yes, moderate it ourselves. But at the end of this cycle lets put up a community-illustration-wallpapers package out on the repos. This has the added benefit of testing: 1. seeing how many quality submissions there are. 1.1 this may mean (collective groaning) looking through DA group. and convincing those artists to contribute. 2. seeing if official ubuntu is interested. 2.1 if yes, then they can take over moderating the next cycle 2.2 if no, then the least they can do is throw up a blog post (3.1) 3. seeing if we as a team can get enough people to actually install our packages. 3.1 whether we can drum up some publicity for this package 4. if it all goes down the crapper, then we are left with a few good submissions for the community wallpaper package. I'm not opposed to a single pool for non-photo wallpapers, if you are that eager, but please not several. I would also lean towards keeping it open, that is: not tied to a release. I still think ending up with a choice of quality wallpapers for Edubuntu and Xubuntu will be a step forward, already. I expect that at least one person (ideally at least 2, one as fallback), volunteers for packaging beforehand. If no one takes ownership, you can forget it. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Alternate Natty Wallpaper Proposal
I'm not opposed to a single pool for non-photo wallpapers, if you are that eager, but please not several. +1 I would also lean towards keeping it open, that is: not tied to a release. +100500 I expect that at least one person (ideally at least 2, one as fallback), volunteers for packaging beforehand. If no one takes ownership, you can forget it. I can do the packaging (hey, that's easy!), but I'm not a MOTU and don't have upload rights to Ubuntu archives. Respectfully, -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Alternate Natty Wallpaper Proposal
I would also lean towards keeping it open, that is: not tied to a release. +100500 Ugh, I mean... Look at the default wallpaper pool. It has thousands of submissions and uses one pool for all releases. We won't have that many submissions, and it's good to have everything in one place, because it will be easier to search older submissions for inspiration or remixing. I think it's kind of our duty to keep all submissions organized and accessible, because if we don't use something, somebody else will likely find it useful, and keeping everything easy-to-find is a matter of respect to both the author and users/remixers. What's more, it's a matter of improving libre artwork in general. Respectfully, -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Free Culture Showcase History - was Re: Alternate Natty Wallpaper Proposal
On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 09:48 -0500, Saleel Velankar wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 19:52 +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote: Exactly for this reason the submissions should be in the pool, where the jury will see them in any case. Not to mince my words here, but the jury is a bunch of philandering photographers, and not likely to select any illustration wallpapers. OK. Everyone kindly calm down. It is very, very highly disturbing that one person's over-eagerness and inability to even try to listen to what others are saying, ends up being the cause of so much confusion and disruption in a team. As the *only* /community/ member who attended, in-person, /both/ the free culture showcase sessions(during UDS-M and UDS-N), lead by the design team, let me try to clear a few things up. Until Lucid, Free culture showcase was run by the Community-Team. (not Canonical design team or Ubuntu Artwork team). Till Lucid, it was only about the content in the Examples folder. If anyone remembers those, you'd realize it had nothing to do with wallpapers Noting the success of the wallpaper collection contest the Design team had done, Community team decided to hand-over this Free Culture task to the Design team. So for maverick, the Free Culture Showcase was open for several other tasks, including illustrative wallpapers to be submitted on *deviantart* , as listed here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFreeCultureShowcase The judges for the illustrative wallpapers were /not/ meant to be the same from the flickr photo pool. Each section, illustrative/photographic/sound/video , was to have relevant judges. However, members from the Design team who were incharge of certain tasks related to illustrative wallpapers switched jobs from Canonical and eventually their tasks fell in no-man's land. Do try to remember that the illustrative wallpaper was first tried for *only* in the Maverick cycle and it's absence in Maverick is not because of the judges from flickr not choosing the illustrations. It was only due to tasks being lost in the process. For Natty again, we have the same Free Culture task running: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/multimedia-design-n-freeculture-showcase We did discuss who should be the judges and Do note, there is a task for Ivanka Organise judging by professionals If there is a confusion regarding the judges, someone just start a new thread regarding that and hopefully we'd have Ivanka replying there. If anyone has any questions just ask them. Kindly do not speculate and confuse everyone! -- Cheers, Vish -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Alternate Natty Wallpaper Proposal
I'm not opposed to a single pool for non-photo wallpapers, if you are that eager, but please not several. I would also lean towards keeping it open, that is: not tied to a release. I can see the sense behind that, this would be okay . I still think ending up with a choice of quality wallpapers for Edubuntu and Xubuntu will be a step forward, already. Very much agreed, since those have clearly defined specs, I have higher hopes for those. I am seeing this pool as a place for filtering some of the wider areas of Ubuntu wallpapers that exist out there, that aren't grown to spec: the kind of stuff that are texture walls and light walls, maybe even some illustrations. Stuff that as of now has no real home, but is definitely *for* Ubuntu. This is stuff that is *not * going to make it if included in freecultureshowcase. We could invite/find this stuff and put it in a a community package, and give it some eyeballs. It would hopefully make some of these artists willing to work on other stuff with us. I expect that at least one person (ideally at least 2, one as fallback), volunteers for packaging beforehand. If no one takes ownership, you can forget it. I can do the packaging (hey, that's easy!), but I'm not a MOTU and don't have upload rights to Ubuntu archives. Sergey, I am sure we can work around that. Thanks so much for volunteering! As the backup, could we simply release on the web? -- Saleel -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Free Culture Showcase History - was Re: Alternate Natty Wallpaper Proposal
IIRC this years FCS will be focused on an overarching theme of light(?) and ubuntu specific stuff will be turned down. Here is the thing, my proposal for new non photo pool covers stuff that was clearly made for Ubuntu, yet not made because of a request, or a spec. These walls are being made already by enthusiastic members of the larger Ubuntu community, and some are very good and yet they don't seem to have a home. Instead I have to trawl DA for a half an hour and sift through. Giving it a community package allows us : *to get in greater contact with those artists, and hopefully get them onboard for any new spec'd projects. *to engage the wider community. *bring greater amounts of eyeballs on made for ubu walls *bring greater eyeballs to our own spec'd projects *bring convenience to people that are looking for these types of walls *help bring awareness and guidance to using the new branding guidelines I didn't think that this is such a radical proposal as all that. It is simply addressing a need that seems to be present within Ubuntu users for these walls. I certainly did not mean to cause any confusion or disruption, and do profusely apologize if it did occur. --Saleel -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Free Culture Showcase History - was Re: Alternate Natty Wallpaper Proposal
On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 14:22 -0500, Saleel Velankar wrote: I didn't think that this is such a radical proposal as all that. Right, you did switch the focus of the initial proposal(which aims at the default install). The initial proposal though is an unnecessary duplication of efforts, with no real probability of being accepted for a default. The Ubuntu community desires to ... To aide in meeting this objective a selection of alternate wallpapers is shipped *by default* .. I dint comment about your new idea. An additional wallpaper package in the universe repo is not a major issue, a community package seems fine and feasible. If we want to do it, we can get help from MOTU and upload it. Shouldnt be a big hassle. -- Cheers, Vish -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Free Culture Showcase History - was Re: Alternate Natty Wallpaper Proposal
Right, you did switch the focus of the initial proposal(which aims at the default install). The initial proposal though is an unnecessary duplication of efforts, with no real probability of being accepted for a default. The Ubuntu community desires to ... To aide in meeting this objective a selection of alternate wallpapers is shipped *by default* .. I'll focus on stuff that is achievable right now, but my opinions on the original idea still stand I am afraid, I really do think that there ought to be a separate pool for abstract and nonphoto default wall proposals, and they do deserve a decent jury. but nevermind, that is a discussion to be shelved for a later date. -- Saleel -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Free Culture Showcase History - was Re: Alternate Natty Wallpaper Proposal
On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 15:46 -0500, Saleel Velankar wrote: I'll focus on stuff that is achievable right now, but my opinions on the original idea still stand I am afraid, I really do think that there ought to be a separate pool for abstract and nonphoto default wall proposals, and they do deserve a decent jury. but nevermind, that is a discussion to be shelved for a later date. Separate jury and separate pool was exactly how it was supposed to happen for Maverick. It was planned, and submission were included on deviantart http://ubuntu-artists.deviantart.com/blog/33090159/ but the judging just dint happen. -- Cheers, Vish -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Free Culture Showcase History - was Re: Alternate Natty Wallpaper Proposal
On Wed, 2010-12-15 at 02:38 +0530, Vishnoo wrote: On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 15:46 -0500, Saleel Velankar wrote: I'll focus on stuff that is achievable right now, but my opinions on the original idea still stand I am afraid, I really do think that there ought to be a separate pool for abstract and nonphoto default wall proposals, and they do deserve a decent jury. but nevermind, that is a discussion to be shelved for a later date. Separate jury and separate pool was exactly how it was supposed to happen for Maverick. It was planned, and submission were included on deviantart http://ubuntu-artists.deviantart.com/blog/33090159/ but the judging just dint happen. The gallery for the free culture showcase : http://ubuntu-artists.deviantart.com/gallery/25667683 Martin finally gave up trying to get those results: http://ubuntu-artists.deviantart.com/blog/35791192/ So everyone, tickle Martin regarding that for Natty, he did make sure he attended the Natty session.. ;) -- Cheers, Vish -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] A Personal Appeal for Change (2nd request)
Vish, Again, with respect and without malice I am asking that you please stop deleting Wiki content and restore the content you removed. Kind regards, John -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Alternate Natty Wallpaper Proposal
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Saleel Velankar svela...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not opposed to a single pool for non-photo wallpapers, if you are that eager, but please not several. I would also lean towards keeping it open, that is: not tied to a release. I can see the sense behind that, this would be okay . I still think ending up with a choice of quality wallpapers for Edubuntu and Xubuntu will be a step forward, already. Very much agreed, since those have clearly defined specs, I have higher hopes for those. I am seeing this pool as a place for filtering some of the wider areas of Ubuntu wallpapers that exist out there, that aren't grown to spec: the kind of stuff that are texture walls and light walls, maybe even some illustrations. Stuff that as of now has no real home, but is definitely *for* Ubuntu. This is stuff that is *not * going to make it if included in freecultureshowcase. We could invite/find this stuff and put it in a a community package, and give it some eyeballs. It would hopefully make some of these artists willing to work on other stuff with us. I expect that at least one person (ideally at least 2, one as fallback), volunteers for packaging beforehand. If no one takes ownership, you can forget it. I can do the packaging (hey, that's easy!), but I'm not a MOTU and don't have upload rights to Ubuntu archives. Sergey, I am sure we can work around that. Thanks so much for volunteering! As the backup, could we simply release on the web? -- Saleel -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art It looks like we have support to move forward with this. In my mind this will add value to Ubuntu and the greater community and what an opportunity to work other teams toward the same goal. Thank you for the discussion. John -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Alternate Natty Wallpaper Proposal
It looks like we have support to move forward with this. In my mind this will add value to Ubuntu and the greater community and what an opportunity to work other teams toward the same goal. I dont see too much support for the original proposal, indeed looking at it I can see that it is nothing like what I am proposing now. Sorry John, but I am against your original proposal. -- Saleel -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
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[ubuntu-in] Indian Ubuntu LoCo team meeting date is confirmed
Hello all, The poll for meeting times ended last night and meeting is going to be on 17th December, Friday at 21:00 IST. The meeting is in #ubuntu-in on freenode. And new users can get there by entering a nick name at http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntu-in or if you wish to get a separate client, try looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChatHowto which will help you. Regards -- Mohi Life never ends as I have my Ubuntu with me (: -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Indian Ubuntu LoCo team meeting date is confirmed
HI,,, May i ask you that where the meeting is happen? On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 9:53 AM, mohi mohanc...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hello all, The poll for meeting times ended last night and meeting is going to be on 17th December, Friday at 21:00 IST. The meeting is in #ubuntu-in on freenode. And new users can get there by entering a nick name at http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntu-in or if you wish to get a separate client, try looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChatHowto which will help you. Regards -- Mohi Life never ends as I have my Ubuntu with me (: -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- Small minds have small inspirationThe Religion culture, Make the people Blind crazy. You can never find the Truth into the Religion.`Religion is just the way to show us the real way. -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Indian Ubuntu LoCo team meeting date is confirmed
Great, I'll be there. On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:05 AM, mohi mohanc...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hello Mehdi, Please the meeting is at Internet Relay Chathttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chaton Freenode network. you get into the meeting place by following this link http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntu-in, by entering a name. On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Mehdi akri...@gmail.com wrote: HI,,, May i ask you that where the meeting is happen? On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 9:53 AM, mohi mohanc...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hello all, The poll for meeting times ended last night and meeting is going to be on 17th December, Friday at 21:00 IST. The meeting is in #ubuntu-in on freenode. And new users can get there by entering a nick name at http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntu-in or if you wish to get a separate client, try looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChatHowto which will help you. Regards -- Mohi Life never ends as I have my Ubuntu with me (: -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- Small minds have small inspiration The Religion culture, Make the people Blind crazy. You can never find the Truth into the Religion.`Religion is just the way to show us the real way. -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- Mohi Life never ends as I have my Ubuntu with me (: -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- Regards, Rahul -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Indian Ubuntu LoCo team meeting date is confirmed
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 9:53 AM, mohi mohanc...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hello all, The poll for meeting times ended last night and meeting is going to be on 17th December, Friday at 21:00 IST. The meeting is in #ubuntu-in on freenode. Great ll be present there regards -- Bhavani Shankar.R https://launchpad.net/~bhavi, a proud ubuntu community developer. What matters in life is application of mind!, It makes great sense to have some common sense..! -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Indian Ubuntu LoCo team meeting date is confirmed
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 9:53 AM, mohi mohanc...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hello all, The poll for meeting times ended last night and meeting is going to be on 17th December, Friday at 21:00 IST. Is there a decided duration of the meeting? Can't wait :) The meeting is in #ubuntu-in on freenode. And new users can get there by entering a nick name at http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntu-in or if you wish to get a separate client, try looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChatHowto which will help you. Regards -- Mohi Life never ends as I have my Ubuntu with me (: -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- Ashutosh Rishi Ranjan -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
[ubuntu-in] What software to use to
Hi Am actually looking for two advise one is OT The first is what software is there that can be used to connect a mobile phone to ubuntu and then use Ubuntu to do some messaging through the mobile Basically i would like to start a sms based news / alert service. Second question which is OT - what kind of mobile phones have this compatibility. would appreciate responses However a note - this is not to find out how to start up a mobile spam service but a rural news / relevant alert (weather, disaster etc) service regards ram -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] What software to use to
Hi On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Am actually looking for two advise one is OT The first is what software is there that can be used to connect a mobile phone to ubuntu and then use Ubuntu to do some messaging through the mobile Basically i would like to start a sms based news / alert service. Second question which is OT - what kind of mobile phones have this compatibility. The best fit would be Android and symbian device at this point as it has extensive support and tool chain which works very well with linux (in general). I have previously worked (in fact played around) in both of them. Dont remember the specific apps but has python api which you could extend for your needs. -S -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] What software to use to
On 12/15/2010 12:18 AM, Ramnarayan.K wrote: Hi Am actually looking for two advise one is OT The first is what software is there that can be used to connect a mobile phone to ubuntu and then use Ubuntu to do some messaging through the mobile *I think* your view has limitations, If *only* my understanding is correct why should Ubuntu connect to your mobile to send messages? There are lot of free services like yahoo mail, through which can send messages to many mobile phones. If you want to connect to mobile for some reason, I don't know for sure if there are any. Basically i would like to start a sms based news / alert service. Second question which is OT - what kind of mobile phones have this compatibility. Most modern mobile os have very good capabilities. Symbian, Android, IOS. Also one has choices over programming languages as well, like python, Java. would appreciate responses However a note - this is not to find out how to start up a mobile spam service but a rural news / relevant alert (weather, disaster etc) service I really appreciate your idea. regards ram -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
[Ubuntu-QC] solutions Open Source de Gestion de Parc Informatique
Je viens de mettre la main sur un livre blanc publié par Mandriva sur les solutions Open Source de Gestion du parc informatique.. de par sa nature c'est un manuel assez technique mais fort bien fait.. A consulter par les initiés... http://www2.mandriva.com/fr/white-papers/gestion-opensource-parc/ -- View this message in context: http://ubuntu-qc.124361.n3.nabble.com/solutions-Open-Source-de-Gestion-de-Parc-Informatique-tp2085477p2085477.html Sent from the Ubuntu-Qc mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] gnomeradio, tvtime et OSS
* * *Par analogie, si Ubuntu 10.10 est comme Windows Vista... alors, je préfère http://www.gnewsense.org/Main/HomePage :) Sinon, la version 11.04 arrivera bientôt. ;)* * *J'ai oublier de mentionner que (pour comprendre l'analogie): - gNewsence est encore plus libre (logiciel) que Ubuntu - ubuntu 10.04 était le Windows XP Au fait, c'est de l'humour (un peu réaliste tout de meme). Tu peux bien resté avec 10.04.1 étant donné qu'il y à moins de risque de changement dans le système VS suivre les dernière avancés (concession?). --- *Je suis en beau pétard. D'après les rapports de bogues que j'ai lus*, le problème de son dans tvtime et gnomeradio depuis que je suis passé à 10.10 est dû au fait qu'on a retiré OSS du kernel, et que tvtime et gnomeradio nécessitent OSS pour fonctionner. * --- Michael Faille Étudiant au baccalauréat en génie des technologies de l'information Université du Québec - École de technologie supérieure, Montréal (Québec) Responsable TI du club étudiant CAPRA 2010/12/13 Gilbert Dion gilbertd...@gmail.com Le 13 décembre 2010 23:15, Michael Faille michael.faill...@ens.etsmtl.caa écrit : Par analogie, si Ubuntu 10.10 est comme Windows Vista... alors, je préfère http://www.gnewsense.org/Main/HomePage :) Sinon, la version 11.04 arrivera bientôt. ;) Au cas où 10.10 ne correspond vraiment pas à tes besoins, je te suggère 10.04.1 LTS qui est fait pour toi a mon avis. Pas sûr que la «gaffe» va être réparée dans 11.04. Régresser à 10.04 me causerait encore plus de frustrations. Certaines fonctionnalités ont vraiment été améliorées dans Maverick. Quant à changer de distribution, trop investi de temps dans Ubuntu pour me familiariser avec une autre. Non, l'Idéal serait de trouver une carte qui marche dans Maverick. Ou une rustine pour remettre celle que j'ai en fonction... Je télécharge présentement gNewSense, question de voir ce que ça offre. Merci pour la suggestion! gilbert -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] gnomeradio, tvtime et OSS
Le 14 décembre 2010 10:00, Michael Faille michael.faill...@ens.etsmtl.ca a écrit : gNewsence est encore plus libre (logiciel) que Ubuntu Tellement plus libre que ma carte graphique, une Nvidia, n'est pas reconnue! Gilbert -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] gnomeradio, tvtime et OSS
2010/12/13 Gilbert Dion gilbertd...@gmail.com: Je suis en beau pétard. D'après les rapports de bogues que j'ai lus*, le problème de son dans tvtime et gnomeradio depuis que je suis passé à 10.10 est dû au fait qu'on a retiré OSS du kernel, et que tvtime et gnomeradio nécessitent OSS pour fonctionner. Je ne comprends pas grand-chose aux discutions de geeks que je me suis tapé, mais j'ai compris que je ne devais pas garder espoir de voir un jour ma carte bttv (Brooktree Corporation Bt878) fonctionner dans Ubuntu. Il y a sans doute des façons de patcher le kernel, mais ces gens-là se parlent entre eux et n'ont pas à l'esprit le simple utilisateur que je suis qui ne comprend pas pourquoi on a laissé tomber ce qui fonctionnait sans le remplacer. S'ils ont laissé tomber OSS qu'il y a dans le kernel c'est que ce vieux truc est déprécié depuis longtemps. Les efforts sont mis sur ALSA depuis longtemps. Il y a des fonctions de remplacement mais ils ne fonctionnent visiblement pas encore très bien, ou pas suffisament bien au goût de tout le monde. J'ai cherché dans les bugs reliés à ce problème sur Launchpad et en écartant à la machette les commentaires d'autres abondamment arrosé de points d'exclamations, j'ai trouvé ceci: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/579300/comments/30 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/579300/comments/37 Ces deux commentaires pointent vers des pistes de solution. À mon avis, le blâme est à placer surtout sur les développeurs de gnomeradio et tvtime qui n'ont pas porté leurs applications vers ALSA même si OSS est déprécié depuis plusieurs années. Quant à ton commentaire comparant Maverick à Windows XP, bien je le trouves malheureux quand ce n'est pas en focusant les efforts à supporter toutes les interfaces dépréciés depuis des années qu'on va avoir un OS qui évolue. J'aurais tendance à te suggérer d'utiliser Lucid Lynx. J'ai utilisé Hardy pendant 3 ans avant que mon ordinateur saute et je ne suis pas mort. F-D -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] gnomeradio, tvtime et OSS
Le 2010-12-14 10:47, Franois-Denis Gonthier a crit: 2010/12/13 Gilbert Dion gilbertd...@gmail.com: Je suis en beau ptard. D'aprs les rapports de bogues que j'ai lus*, le problme de son dans tvtime et gnomeradio depuis que je suis pass 10.10 est d au fait qu'on a retir OSS du kernel, et que tvtime et gnomeradio ncessitent OSS pour fonctionner. Je ne comprends pas grand-chose aux discutions de geeks que je me suis tap, mais j'ai compris que je ne devais pas garder espoir de voir un jour ma carte bttv (Brooktree Corporation Bt878) fonctionner dans Ubuntu. Il y a sans doute des faons de patcher le kernel, mais ces gens-l se parlent entre eux et n'ont pas l'esprit le simple utilisateur que je suis qui ne comprend pas pourquoi on a laiss tomber ce qui fonctionnait sans le remplacer. S'ils ont laiss tomber OSS qu'il y a dans le kernel c'est que ce vieux truc est dprci depuis longtemps. Les efforts sont mis sur ALSA depuis longtemps. Il y a des fonctions de remplacement mais ils ne fonctionnent visiblement pas encore trs bien, ou pas suffisament bien au got de tout le monde. J'ai cherch dans les bugs relis ce problme sur Launchpad et en cartant la machette les commentaires d'autres abondamment arros de points d'exclamations, j'ai trouv ceci: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/579300/comments/30 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/579300/comments/37 Ces deux commentaires pointent vers des pistes de solution. mon avis, le blme est placer surtout sur les dveloppeurs de gnomeradio et tvtime qui n'ont pas port leurs applications vers ALSA mme si OSS est dprci depuis plusieurs annes. Quant ton commentaire comparant Maverick Windows XP, bien je le trouves malheureux quand ce n'est pas en focusant les efforts supporter toutes les interfaces dprcis depuis des annes qu'on va avoir un OS qui volue. J'aurais tendance te suggrer d'utiliser Lucid Lynx. J'ai utilis Hardy pendant 3 ans avant que mon ordinateur saute et je ne suis pas mort. F-D Est-ce que l'installation de Alsa-oss par Synaptic ne ferait pas l'affaire ??? On dit: alsa-oss Encapsulateur ALSA pour applications OSS Est-ce que Audacity ne fonctionne pas encore avec OSS ? -- Lise et Michel Bonne journe -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] partage de dossier
Merci à tous pour vos réponses, Je vois que les opinions sont principalement partagées entre SpiderOak et Dropbox... J'ai oublié de dire que les machines qui auraient un dossier partagé roulent sur Ubuntu. N'est-ce pas possible de simplement créer un genre de pont sécurisé entre les deux? Est-ce que c'est possible avec Ubuntu One? Dans la négative j'essaierai SpiderOak et Dropbox, peut-être que je m'avanturerai dans les ssh/ftp et compagnie si les deux précédents ne me conviennent pas (en demandant des infos après de Robert Dion). Max Le 2010-12-14 01:22, r dion a écrit : Moi je me suis configuré un serveur maison accessible par internet avec un ip dynamique. Il est accessible en ssh, en ftp, par http et je fais de la synchro avec rsync. Le 13 décembre 2010 16:54, Maxim Théberge maxthebe...@gmail.com mailto:maxthebe...@gmail.com a écrit : Salut à tous, Je ne suis pas très connaissant du partage de dossiers et j'aimerais partager un dossier commun entre mon laptop et ma tour via internet (une synchronisation automatique encryptée c'est réaliste?). J'ai un compte Ubuntu One mais je ne comprends pas vraiment comment faire, on dirait que je ne peux qu'uploader les fichiers un à la fois un peu comme google documents et ils ne sont pas synchronisés... Quelqu'un peut m'aider? Max -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- __ Robert Dion dio...@gmail.com mailto:dio...@gmail.com membre de FACIL - - - - - - - - - - - - - Favorisons l'informatique libre -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] gnomeradio, tvtime et OSS
Un DRM nous restreint d'utilisation par conception tel que Windows X et Apple OS X. C'est pourquoi je me suis confondu en envoyant le lien http://www.defectivebydesign.org/ puisque NVIDIA encourage ces 2 plateforme en contribuant au logiciel propriétaire. *Je vous soumet ces liens afin de bien saisir l'enjeu:* http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logiciel_propri%C3%A9taire http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logiciel_libre http://www.fsf.org/ http://facil.qc.ca/ http://www.april.org --- Michael Faille Étudiant au baccalauréat en génie des technologies de l'information Université du Québec - École de technologie supérieure, Montréal (Québec) Responsable TI du club étudiant CAPRA 2010/12/14 François-Denis Gonthier neum...@lostwebsite.net http://www.defectivebydesign.org/ -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] partage de dossier
On 10-12-14 12:39 PM, Maxim Théberge wrote: Merci à tous pour vos réponses, Je vois que les opinions sont principalement partagées entre SpiderOak et Dropbox... J'ai oublié de dire que les machines qui auraient un dossier partagé roulent sur Ubuntu. N'est-ce pas possible de simplement créer un genre de pont sécurisé entre les deux? Est-ce que c'est possible avec Ubuntu One? Dans la négative j'essaierai SpiderOak et Dropbox, peut-être que je m'avanturerai dans les ssh/ftp et compagnie si les deux précédents ne me conviennent pas (en demandant des infos après de Robert Dion). Si le but n'est que de partager entre 2 PC, sur le même réseau, installe openssh-server sur un des deux, puis utilise rsync. Si tu dois protéger ces PC d'autres systèmes ou accès sur le même réseau, je suggère de t'informer sur l'authentification par clé publique (Public Key Authentication ou PKA), c'est indispensable quand on installe un serveur SSH. GRsync est un paquet qui permet de configurer graphiquement des opérations de synchronisation. Tu peux aussi utiliser Samba, c'est automatique en cliquant avec le bouton droit et en choisissant Sharing options. Ubuntu One est en beta et personellement tant qu'il n'indique pas le progrès des transferts clairement tant sur le bureau que sur l'interface web, il n'est pas dans ma liste. Pour des petites quantités de données, je continue de penser que Dropbox et SpiderOak sont le meilleur choix. Ils ont aussi l'avantage d'avoir un client mobile, quoiqu'un serveur FTP sécurisé ferait probablement l'affaire aussi. Bref il y a tellement de possibilités... en libre ou pas, ça dépends du temps que tu as à mettre, vs. la performance vs. le niveau de liberté que tu veux. A+ Fabian -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] gnomeradio, tvtime et OSS
Le 14 décembre 2010 13:33, Michael Faille michael.faill...@ens.etsmtl.ca a écrit : Un DRM nous restreint d'utilisation par conception tel que Windows X et Apple OS X. C'est pourquoi je me suis confondu en envoyant le lien http://www.defectivebydesign.org/ puisque NVIDIA encourage ces 2 plateforme en contribuant au logiciel propriétaire. *Je vous soumet ces liens afin de bien saisir l'enjeu:* http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logiciel_propri%C3%A9taire http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logiciel_libre http://www.fsf.org/ http://facil.qc.ca/ http://www.april.org Oui, j'adhère à tous ces principes et les soutiens. Mais en attendant, dans le concret des choses, je fais quoi? Je jette ma carte Nvidia à la poubelle et je cours dépenser de l'argent pour en acquérir une Intel? (Et je me prive de Youtube? Et je convertis 10 000 mp3 en ogg? Et je renonce à Opera? Et j'abandonne Ubuntu? Le libre est-il religion?) gilbert -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
[Ubuntu-QC] Have Android, go libre...
Jettes un coup d'oeuil ici Have a look here ; http://replicant.us/ FDroid: a free software alternative to Google Markethttp://replicant.us/2010/11/fdroid-a-free-software-alternative-to-google-market/ André. -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] gnomeradio, tvtime et OSS
Oui, j'adhère à tous ces principes et les soutiens. Mais en attendant, dans le concret des choses, je fais quoi? Je jette ma carte Nvidia à la poubelle et je cours dépenser de l'argent pour en acquérir une Intel? (Et je me prive de Youtube? Et je convertis 10 000 mp3 en ogg? Et je renonce à Opera? Et j'abandonne Ubuntu? Le libre est-il religion?) Pour contribuer à la discution de manière tout à fait gratuite et inutile, je tiens juste à préciser qu'il n'existe pas encore de carte graphique Intel PCI-express ou ACP... Généralement rien de compatible avec un PC pour remplacer une carte NVidia. Mais bon, je trouves malheureux que la discussion a pris cette tangeante parce que ça n'approche même pas une solution à ton problème. Arrêtez ça ou bien Fabian va vous rappeler à l'ordre! F-D -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] gnomeradio, tvtime et OSS
Le 14 décembre 2010 14:29, François-Denis Gonthier neum...@lostwebsite.neta écrit : Mais bon, je trouves malheureux que la discussion a pris cette tangeante parce que ça n'approche même pas une solution à ton problème. Arrêtez ça ou bien Fabian va vous rappeler à l'ordre! Tu as raison, je me suis laissé emporter. Mais parfois, on devient fru à se buter sur des ennuis de ce type, où les solutions semblent improbables. Les deux commentaires que tu as relevés sur launchpad donnent à penser qu'il y a une piste, mais de concret à appliquer «out of the box», comme on dit. Il semble bien qu'il faille vivre avec ce genre de problème dans l'univers du logiciel libre. Ce ne sera pas la première fois qu'une application devienne obsolète parce qu'abandonnée par ses développeurs alors que le kernel évolue. Je pense entre autres au très pratique bubakup, qui n'a pas survécu à 8.10... gilbert -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
[Ubuntu-QC] Rythmbox
Salut Un autre petit os. En general, lorsque nous cliquons sur le petit X d'une fenêtre d'Application, celui-ci se ferme de façon definitive. Pourquoi n'est-ce pas le cas avec Rythmbox? Lorsque je le ferme avec le X, il disparait, mais continue a jouer. Si j'avais voulu ainsi, je l'aurais minimiser, et c'est tout. Merci -- À la prochaine... Danny -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Rythmbox
2010/12/14 Ech0s t...@videotron.ca Salut Un autre petit os. En general, lorsque nous cliquons sur le petit X d'une fenêtre d'Application, celui-ci se ferme de façon definitive. Pourquoi n'est-ce pas le cas avec Rythmbox? Lorsque je le ferme avec le X, il disparait, mais continue a jouer. Si j'avais voulu ainsi, je l'aurais minimiser, et c'est tout. Merci -- À la prochaine... Danny Très d'accrod! C'est agaçant! André. -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Rythmbox
Pour quitter définitivement le programme, faut aller dans le menu Musique - Quitter ou faire Ctrl-Q. C'est un comportement hérité (ou imité) d'Apple. C'est pareil pour Banshee. Y en a quelques-uns comme ça. gilbert Le 14 décembre 2010 19:36, spam spammer nospamormores...@gmail.com a écrit : 2010/12/14 Ech0s t...@videotron.ca Salut Un autre petit os. En general, lorsque nous cliquons sur le petit X d'une fenêtre d'Application, celui-ci se ferme de façon definitive. Pourquoi n'est-ce pas le cas avec Rythmbox? Lorsque je le ferme avec le X, il disparait, mais continue a jouer. Si j'avais voulu ainsi, je l'aurais minimiser, et c'est tout. Merci -- À la prochaine... Danny Très d'accrod! C'est agaçant! André. -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Rythmbox
Je n'ai jamais compris pourquoi Shuttleworth s'était mis en tête d'imiter Apple (noutons à gauche, etc.) . Les maceux, c'est un marché d'utilisateurs que Linux n'ira jamais chercher... On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 20:29 -0500, Gilbert Dion wrote: Pour quitter définitivement le programme, faut aller dans le menu Musique - Quitter ou faire Ctrl-Q. C'est un comportement hérité (ou imité) d'Apple. C'est pareil pour Banshee. Y en a quelques-uns comme ça. gilbert Le 14 décembre 2010 19:36, spam spammer nospamormores...@gmail.com a écrit : 2010/12/14 Ech0s t...@videotron.ca Salut Un autre petit os. En general, lorsque nous cliquons sur le petit X d'une fenêtre d'Application, celui-ci se ferme de façon definitive. Pourquoi n'est-ce pas le cas avec Rythmbox? Lorsque je le ferme avec le X, il disparait, mais continue a jouer. Si j'avais voulu ainsi, je l'aurais minimiser, et c'est tout. Merci -- À la prochaine... Danny Très d'accrod! C'est agaçant! André. -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Have Android, go libre...
Merci! *Gilbert* 2010/12/14 spam spammer nospamormores...@gmail.com Jettes un coup d'oeuil ici Have a look here ; http://replicant.us/ FDroid: a free software alternative to Google Markethttp://replicant.us/2010/11/fdroid-a-free-software-alternative-to-google-market/ André. -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook suggestion for a 4 year old
On 14/12/10 00:08, Bruno Girin wrote: On the software side, I've never tried Edubuntu so any suggestion in that area would be welcome. In particular, how to configure parental control, what additional software to install, etc. There is a fairly new kid on the block for parental control from Gnome called Nanny (http://projects.gnome.org/nanny/) which I tried recently on my kids PC (A fairly old AMD 3400+, 1GB RAM) but it was a real dog and bought the machine virtually to it's knees. It is a good idea - an integration of the all the functions below and easy to configure interface but the performance of it wasn't acceptable for me, so I removed it last week. I used to run a combination of privoxy, firehol and Dansguardian which, although a bit of a PITA to set up initially, once installed works well and has no noticeable effect on performance (Google for HowTos). This is what I will be re-installing this weekend. The other app I like for the kids machine is Timekpr. Which lets you set both the amount of time they can use their machine and also between what hours too (In launchpad). HTH Al -- The Open Learning Centre http://www.theopenlearningcentre.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook suggestion for a 4 year old
On the software side, I've never tried Edubuntu so any suggestion in that area would be welcome. In particular, how to configure parental control, what additional software to install, etc. I use OpenDNS in my broadband router and that then filters for all machines at home. The filtering is customisable and mean you don't end up slugging the machine with some local filter. Although the machine could be moved and used on an unprotected network at the age you mentioned that is probably less likely. You used to be a firefox add-on that did filtering by proxy and it was possible to lock the proxy via root. The best protection though is education about being on-line, CEOPS www.ceop.police.uk has more info. Neil -- w h i c h w a y i s u p -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook suggestion for a 4 year old
Tuxpaint and Gcompris! great fun apps to play with. To be honest I wouldn't worry too much about parental controls for a few years, just put the cbeebies website as the browser home page and you are done! Alan. On 14/12/10 00:08, Bruno Girin wrote: Hi all, I'm currently looking for a cheap and cheerful netbook for a 4-year old. I want to install Edubuntu on it and set it up with all the relevant educational and fun software. On the hardware side, I'm happy to spend ~£200. Any suggestions welcome, bonus points if it comes in pink. On the software side, I've never tried Edubuntu so any suggestion in that area would be welcome. In particular, how to configure parental control, what additional software to install, etc. Cheers, Bruno -- Alan Bell The Open Learning Centre Web: http://www.theopenlearningcentre.com Mob: +44 (0)7738 789190 Tel: +44 (0)844 3576000 The Open Learning Centre is a trading name of Bell Lord Ltd, a company registered in England and Wales #05868943. VAT Registration #GB 901 4715 55 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook suggestion for a 4 year old
Cbeebies as homepage and remove the address bar. (so not chrome for browser then) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook suggestion for a 4 year old
On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 00:08:23 + Bruno Girin brunogi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I'm currently looking for a cheap and cheerful netbook for a 4-year old. I want to install Edubuntu on it and set it up with all the relevant educational and fun software. On the hardware side, I'm happy to spend ~£200. Any suggestions welcome, bonus points if it comes in pink. On the software side, I've never tried Edubuntu so any suggestion in that area would be welcome. In particular, how to configure parental control, what additional software to install, etc. I know a couple of people that are quite happy with their refurbished Acer One they got from here http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/ One friend ended up getting 4 in different colours so the family each know whos is whos. I don’t think any of them run Edubuntu on the so don’t know if it 'just-works'. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Rubbish Bin Placement
Quick question, for research. Anybody have a Rubbish Bin icon on their desktop and if so, why? -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Rubbish Bin Placement
None. Prefer to delete as opposed to send to rubbish bin. On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.comwrote: Quick question, for research. Anybody have a Rubbish Bin icon on their desktop and if so, why? -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Rubbish Bin Placement
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: Quick question, for research. Anybody have a Rubbish Bin icon on their desktop and if so, why? Yes. And all the document folders too, and Computer, Home and a sprinkling of temporary work-in-progress folders that will get filed away when I'm done. I reorganize my panels - one of my main bitches about GNOME is that its support for vertical panels is so poor. I have a vertical panel on the left of my left monitor, which gets rather overcrowded, and ADeskBar vertically on the right of my right monitor. The screen corners are unused, intentionally, and I remove anything I can do without from the GNOME panel if it can be usefully put elsewhere - e.g. the bin. -- Liam Proven • Info profile: http://www.google.com/profiles/lproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lpro...@gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884 • Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AIM/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven • MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • ICQ: 73187508 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 68, Issue 22
Message: 3 Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 00:08:23 + From: Bruno Girin brunogi...@gmail.com Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook suggestion for a 4 year old To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: 1292285303.1772.36.ca...@nuuk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi all, I'm currently looking for a cheap and cheerful netbook for a 4-year old. I want to install Edubuntu on it and set it up with all the relevant educational and fun software. On the hardware side, I'm happy to spend ~?200. Any suggestions welcome, bonus points if it comes in pink. On the software side, I've never tried Edubuntu so any suggestion in that area would be welcome. In particular, how to configure parental control, what additional software to install, etc. Cheers, Bruno Not that Edubuntu is not great and I don't mean to promote a non-ubuntu distribution on this list, but I hope it's appropriate. http://www.qimo4kids.com/default.aspx From their FAQ. *Q: How is Qimo different than Edubuntu http://edubuntu.org/?*A: Qimo was designed to be a standalone home computer for kids, rather than a networked classroom computer. The interface for Qimo is designed to be easy enough for a 3 year old to use, without having to navigate menus or manage multiple open windows. Also, Qimo will also run from a LiveCD, and doesn't require an existing Ubuntu installation the way Edubuntu does.I'm not 100% sure if it's based on Ubuntu or Edubuntu and I haven't tried it out myself as my kids are out of the country, but I plan on installing it on an old laptop I have around (and hopefully still works!) -- Patrick -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook suggestion for a 4 year old
Hi! I have an Acer aspire one zg5. Had linpus in it crashed (something to do with an XD card left inside). I then had ubuntu netbook remix for some time until unity came along and it felt a bit slow: tried looking for 10.4 but it was gone. Tried linpus again: but no support no comunity that I could find (but the card reader was working) I now have meego (fast turn on, fast browsing, some inkscape use) with a live USB running trisquel mini (gnu/linux version or Lubuntu) whenever I want to do some other stuff. That could be an option for you: the aspire ones are fun to use: have something installed for your child and then have some live usb for you. It's an SSD so might want to buy external HDD. What I did for my daugher (still 9 months but looking ahead) is what was suggested in the linux format magazine: make my own. But I did some reasearch: It seems edubuntu has everything from low level to high level education. And it's huge. Qimo is an option: based on xubuntu good for old PCs and based for young ones (it even has a wbar to make it look mac like). What I finally opted for was to use a 7 year old big screen acer aspire laptop that my wife had abandoned. I installed Lubuntu and made big icons, installed tux paint, gcompris and other. I then found a childern friendly keyboard (has tgbyhn keys a little compact for her to reach). My idea is similar to what someone said here: not worry to much with online security. But maybe only give her internet when hardwired through ethernet to my laptop? I'd act as a live blocker of some sort. I would look for an old laptop through freecycle or ebay for a big screen laptop many windows users probably get rid of it.(probably much less than 200pounds) Make sure hardware is mostly compatible with lubuntu or xbuntu buy a childerns keyboard (less than a tenner) and you are off! When he is older get hime something off the shelf. Andres PS: if any of you have an acer aspire one and have managed to make the card reader (SD, XD, extra storage) to work please tell me how! only linpus was able to do it! Hi all, I'm currently looking for a cheap and cheerful netbook for a 4-year old. I want to install Edubuntu on it and set it up with all the relevant educational and fun software. On the hardware side, I'm happy to spend ~?200. Any suggestions welcome, bonus points if it comes in pink. On the software side, I've never tried Edubuntu so any suggestion in that area would be welcome. In particular, how to configure parental control, what additional software to install, etc. I know a couple of people that are quite happy with their refurbished Acer One they got from here http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/ One friend ended up getting 4 in different colours so the family each know whos is whos. I don?t think any of them run Edubuntu on the so don?t know if it 'just-works'. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net -- Andrés Muñiz-Piniella -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook suggestion for a 4 year old
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Alan Bell alan.b...@theopenlearningcentre.com wrote: Tuxpaint and Gcompris! great fun apps to play with. To be honest I wouldn't worry too much about parental controls for a few years, just put the cbeebies website as the browser home page and you are done! There's also a great maths arcade style game TuxMath? I think which mine love. I've done exactly this for my 7yr old, (desktop not netbook) which he's been using since about the same age. I do though add some icons for things like disney, dc and marvel comics dr who, cartoon network sites etc in the links bar. If he needs to search for homework, he sits with me and we do it together on mine. I've used cron and Zenity to shut it down with warnings every 5 minutes for 20 minutes before shutdown in the evenings and prevent startup before school time and after getting home (homework time). There's also a built in utility that enables configuration of a system wide policy for periods between breaks and duration of breaks, can't remember the name of it though. Ad blocking is worth having to stop them wandering off by clicking on some random ad that appears. If you get an Aspire One avoid the SSDs, battery performance is fantastic but the disk is slow as hell. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Rubbish Bin Placement
OnTue, 14 Dec 2010 10:13:20 +,Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: Quick question, for research. Anybody have a Rubbish Bin icon on their desktop and if so, why? -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) I have a rubbish bin (Deleted Items folder) launcher on my top panel, along with my other five standard launchers, which are Main Menu, Firefox, Evolution, Gedit, and Rhythmbox. I have it there because when I download pdf's, I download them to the desktop first, and if I decide I do not want to keep them, I delete them and then empty the rubbish bin. Similarly, when I copy jpg's or gif's to blog posts, I copy them first to the desktop, then upload them to my blog's media folder from there, then delete my desktop copies of them. Rowan -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook suggestion for a 4 year old
I know a bright 4 year old who has already been using an Ubuntu tower for a year (offline) with all relevant games. So at 4 years old already a potential expert. I do not really agree about lack of invasive controls, internet access needs some careful thought, and probably ongoing too. The current trends are for Ubuntu and other items such as jolibook, to be internet connected independently of the browser, and these apps also expect to start automatically, and of course they are in menus. Nothing here to cause any configuration difficulty but I guess the difference between vanilla Ubuntu and say, Qimo for kids, will be internet and cloud stuff. BTW an excellent app for browser filter is an addon to Firefox ProCon latte, it can be passworded and also hidden. alan c On 14/12/10 09:54, Alan Bell wrote: Tuxpaint and Gcompris! great fun apps to play with. To be honest I wouldn't worry too much about parental controls for a few years, just put the cbeebies website as the browser home page and you are done! Alan. On 14/12/10 00:08, Bruno Girin wrote: Hi all, I'm currently looking for a cheap and cheerful netbook for a 4-year old. I want to install Edubuntu on it and set it up with all the relevant educational and fun software. On the hardware side, I'm happy to spend ~£200. Any suggestions welcome, bonus points if it comes in pink. On the software side, I've never tried Edubuntu so any suggestion in that area would be welcome. In particular, how to configure parental control, what additional software to install, etc. Cheers, Bruno -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook suggestion for a 4 year old
On 14 December 2010 11:25, Will Bickerstaff will.bickerst...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] There's also a built in utility that enables configuration of a system wide policy for periods between breaks and duration of breaks, can't remember the name of it though. I use Workrave to do something similar. Is that what you were thinking of? Cofion/Regards, Neil. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Very odd router connection problem
The scenario. We have two broadband suppliers to our house - on two separate phone lines, BT, the home supplier and another supplied by the company my wife works for. The router supplied by the company my wife works for is unlimited traffic, the BT is capped at 10GB per month. I have two computers - a Windows 7 laptop and a 10.04 Ubuntu Netbook. The odd thing is this - if I connect to the company router using a cable with the Windows 7 machine, it connects normally and normal internet operations can be done. The NIC is set to DHCP both for ipv4 and ipv6. If however I connect the Netbook via the same cable to the same router using the Automatic (DHCP) settings both for ipv4 and ipv6 on eth0 there is NO internet access AT ALL! I've tried entering the manual IP data but still NO ACCESS at all! Why should this be and what do people suggest I do to get it to work? (I can't access the router at all) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Very odd router connection problem
On 14 December 2010 16:20, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com wrote: The scenario. We have two broadband suppliers to our house - on two separate phone lines, BT, the home supplier and another supplied by the company my wife works for. The router supplied by the company my wife works for is unlimited traffic, the BT is capped at 10GB per month. I have two computers - a Windows 7 laptop and a 10.04 Ubuntu Netbook. The odd thing is this - if I connect to the company router using a cable with the Windows 7 machine, it connects normally and normal internet operations can be done. The NIC is set to DHCP both for ipv4 and ipv6. If however I connect the Netbook via the same cable to the same router using the Automatic (DHCP) settings both for ipv4 and ipv6 on eth0 there is NO internet access AT ALL! I've tried entering the manual IP data but still NO ACCESS at all! Why should this be and what do people suggest I do to get it to work? (I can't access the router at all) Hello Gordon, I suggest trying without IPV6 enabled, if you have not already done so. Using the network manager you should be able to set IPV6 to ignore. Then do a complete restart. I dont know if this wil fix your problem, but it is the first thing I would try. Thank you -- John Stevenson Lean Agile Consultant / Coach jr0cket.com | leanagilemachine.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Very odd router connection problem
On 14/12/2010 16:26, John Stevenson wrote: On 14 December 2010 16:20, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com mailto:gbpli...@gmail.com wrote: The scenario. We have two broadband suppliers to our house - on two separate phone lines, BT, the home supplier and another supplied by the company my wife works for. The router supplied by the company my wife works for is unlimited traffic, the BT is capped at 10GB per month. I have two computers - a Windows 7 laptop and a 10.04 Ubuntu Netbook. The odd thing is this - if I connect to the company router using a cable with the Windows 7 machine, it connects normally and normal internet operations can be done. The NIC is set to DHCP both for ipv4 and ipv6. If however I connect the Netbook via the same cable to the same router using the Automatic (DHCP) settings both for ipv4 and ipv6 on eth0 there is NO internet access AT ALL! I've tried entering the manual IP data but still NO ACCESS at all! Why should this be and what do people suggest I do to get it to work? (I can't access the router at all) Hello Gordon, I suggest trying without IPV6 enabled, if you have not already done so. Using the network manager you should be able to set IPV6 to ignore. Then do a complete restart. I dont know if this wil fix your problem, but it is the first thing I would try. Hi John, It was set to ignore initially and that wouldn't connect either, so when I saw that the NIC on the Windows machine was set to DHCP for ipv6, I changed it, with still no effect! -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Very odd router connection problem
On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 16:32:33 -, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com wrote: On 14/12/2010 16:26, John Stevenson wrote: On 14 December 2010 16:20, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com mailto:gbpli...@gmail.com wrote: The scenario. We have two broadband suppliers to our house - on two separate phone lines, BT, the home supplier and another supplied by the company my wife works for. The router supplied by the company my wife works for is unlimited traffic, the BT is capped at 10GB per month. I have two computers - a Windows 7 laptop and a 10.04 Ubuntu Netbook. The odd thing is this - if I connect to the company router using a cable with the Windows 7 machine, it connects normally and normal internet operations can be done. The NIC is set to DHCP both for ipv4 and ipv6. If however I connect the Netbook via the same cable to the same router using the Automatic (DHCP) settings both for ipv4 and ipv6 on eth0 there is NO internet access AT ALL! I've tried entering the manual IP data but still NO ACCESS at all! Why should this be and what do people suggest I do to get it to work? (I can't access the router at all) Hello Gordon, I suggest trying without IPV6 enabled, if you have not already done so. Using the network manager you should be able to set IPV6 to ignore. Then do a complete restart. I dont know if this wil fix your problem, but it is the first thing I would try. Hi John, It was set to ignore initially and that wouldn't connect either, so when I saw that the NIC on the Windows machine was set to DHCP for ipv6, I changed it, with still no effect! Set the netbook mac address to the same as the windows 7 mac address. The router maybe setup to only allow connection from one mac address. Mark -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Very odd router connection problem
On 14/12/2010 16:20, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: The scenario. We have two broadband suppliers to our house - on two separate phone lines, BT, the home supplier and another supplied by the company my wife works for. The router supplied by the company my wife works for is unlimited traffic, the BT is capped at 10GB per month. I have two computers - a Windows 7 laptop and a 10.04 Ubuntu Netbook. The odd thing is this - if I connect to the company router using a cable with the Windows 7 machine, it connects normally and normal internet operations can be done. The NIC is set to DHCP both for ipv4 and ipv6. If however I connect the Netbook via the same cable to the same router using the Automatic (DHCP) settings both for ipv4 and ipv6 on eth0 there is NO internet access AT ALL! I've tried entering the manual IP data but still NO ACCESS at all! Why should this be and what do people suggest I do to get it to work? (I can't access the router at all) Thanks to you both - it's VERY weird but it's just connected OK with the original settings. Strange! -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Rubbish Bin Placement
On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 10:13 +, Yorvyk wrote: Quick question, for research. Anybody have a Rubbish Bin icon on their desktop and if so, why? -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net I have one on my bottom panel. Why? Why not? Tony -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Rubbish Bin Placement
Yorvyk wrote: Quick question, for research. Anybody have a Rubbish Bin icon on their desktop and if so, why? I have one wherever it is that Gnome puts it by default, because I don't see wherever it is often enough for it to be moved through having got in the way. -- Avi. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] iSCSI discovery not finding targets
Hi guys, you've all been a big help in the past, and I'm wondering if you could help me again. I have been following a the tutorial at http://www.howtoforge.com/using-iscsi-on-ubuntu-10.04-initiator-and-targetand have successfully set up an iSCSI target server, however when trying to connect to the server the tutorial suggests the command iscsiadm -m discovery -t st -p 192.168.0.101 due to the differences between the tutorial and my system I ran the command sudo iscsiadm -m discovery -t st -p 192.168.2.42 however this simply returns blank, indicating that no iSCSI targets were found. any ideas on what might have gone wrong in my setup? thanks in advance for the help Jacob Mansfield Programmer -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook suggestion for a 4 year old
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Neil Greenwood neil.greenwood@gmail.com wrote: I use Workrave to do something similar. Is that what you were thinking of? No but certainly looks worth looking at. It was the typing break option in Gnome keyboard preferences. I knew I never had to install anything. But I can no longer see how to apply the setting system wide. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Christmas Bashes
Hi all, We have our London Christmas event all booked up for the 22nd at the Hub Isslington http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/568/detail/ (tell your friends, email LUGs, tweet it, dent it and post and update on Diaspora etc.) but this email isn't really all about that one. There are two Hub locations in London, and the Hub Kings Cross have invited us to an event they are doing with Ford tomorrow partly because their technical team would love to see us :) It is a slightly blatent bit of PR, but hey, if Ford want to pay for drinks then it is only polite to go drink them. That said, here is their message: Ford is sponsoring a Christmas event here at the Hub on December 15th, Wednesday. They are hiring the venue and putting on drinks and food and they want us to invite our network and community of people to come. The event is in connection with a promotion Ford is running called the Ford Focus Global Test Drive. Entrants to this promotion will be in with a chance to test drive the new Ford Focus when it launches in early 2011, in Madrid, and to donate $10,000 to a charity of their choosing. You can see the Facebook page for the promotion here: http://bit.ly/FocusGlobalDrive. So all we ask is that if you do come, if you wouldn't mind doing so, (it is not obligatory) to sit in front of a camera for 60 secs and say which charity you think Ford should donate the $10,000 too, and why you'd like to test drive the Ford Focus...easy! We would like to invite your whole group, if you are interested each person would need to RSVP to Jessica Chandler, jessica.chand...@the-hub.net I also have had a lot of interest in your group from our 'techy' Hub members and also the Hub tech team that are employed by the Hub network (and who run the Hub servers through Canonical I have been instructed to tell you) and they were interested in networking with you in a casual way in a casual environment. -- Alan Bell The Open Learning Centre Web: http://www.theopenlearningcentre.com Mob: +44 (0)7738 789190 Tel: +44 (0)844 3576000 The Open Learning Centre is a trading name of Bell Lord Ltd, a company registered in England and Wales #05868943. VAT Registration #GB 901 4715 55 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bath Meet up
Quoting Laura Czajkowski la...@lczajkowski.com: Aloha I'm in Bath this week and wondered if anyone else was in the area that would like to meet up and have a random Ubuntu hour? Go for a drink/bite to eat some evening Laura I'm not in Bath myself and sadly no where near Bath this weekend, but I know someone who is near Bath who may be interested. I'll certainly mention it to him in case he is interested. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook suggestion for a 4 year old
On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 09:54 +, Alan Bell wrote: Tuxpaint and Gcompris! great fun apps to play with. To be honest I wouldn't worry too much about parental controls for a few years, just put the cbeebies website as the browser home page and you are done! Good point, a well chosen home page is essential :-) Thanks! Bruno -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook suggestion for a 4 year old
On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 08:34 +, Neil Wilson wrote: On the software side, I've never tried Edubuntu so any suggestion in that area would be welcome. In particular, how to configure parental control, what additional software to install, etc. I use OpenDNS in my broadband router and that then filters for all machines at home. The filtering is customisable and mean you don't end up slugging the machine with some local filter. One point I forgot to mention, it's for a friend's daughter so I don't have any control on anything outside the netbook itself. Thanks for the suggestions, Bruno -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook suggestion for a 4 year old
the kids i have installed Linux for is using this distro: http://qimo4kids.com/ From: brunogi...@gmail.com To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 22:34:05 + Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook suggestion for a 4 year old On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 08:34 +, Neil Wilson wrote: On the software side, I've never tried Edubuntu so any suggestion in that area would be welcome. In particular, how to configure parental control, what additional software to install, etc. I use OpenDNS in my broadband router and that then filters for all machines at home. The filtering is customisable and mean you don't end up slugging the machine with some local filter. One point I forgot to mention, it's for a friend's daughter so I don't have any control on anything outside the netbook itself. Thanks for the suggestions, Bruno -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netbook suggestion for a 4 year old
On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 23:39 +0100, Martin Jernberg wrote: the kids i have installed Linux for is using this distro: http://qimo4kids.com/ Great suggestion, will try, thanks! Bruno -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Focus Groups - UBT
Hiyas Pen and Julien, As promised I did raise the matter of Focus Groups for both Accessibility and Lubuntu. Julien, Whilst I had been granted permission to liase on behalf of Lubuntu, I'd appreciate a confirmation that I have the authority to follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FGCreation for Lubuntu. Pen, you would have to have to the same process for accessibility. From the temporary channel for the voice control accessibility I've been steering the devs into not going 'pure gnome', so that we can use it across all flavours, Manuela has made outstanding progress in the 3 days the project has been alive. Head strong that lady may be, but has a passion that has awoken dormant fires in other people. I really would like to see such a project, as a part of and reporting to accessibility, succeed and be something we could 'bolt on' to lubuntu. Whilst our developers time is short and precious, I do honestly believe that with help from other teams we could attain it. Please let me know you thoughts, from both teams. Regards, Phill. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: module-jackdbus-detect in PulseAudio
I use jack PatchBay, http://www.linuxdsp.co.uk/download/jp1/index.html Which allows to save your connections and reload them at any time. Lash/Ladish provide a more complete solution whereby ontop of restoring connections they try to restore each application to its previous state. This can be useful when you have many different Jack apps running for the one session (which is often the case). I know the guys at Stanford did something a few years ago called jmess which also allows you to store connections but I would recommend the link above, lovely UI and very usable. In fact all their plugins are worth using, quality dsp. Conor On 13/12/10 10:36, David Henningsson wrote: module-jackdbus-detect doesn't currently remember it, but I agree it would be useful. Perhaps someone else here can answer on how that works, if you need lash/ladish or something else, or if qjackctl will do...? -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: RT_GROUP_SCHED kernel option makes JACK unusable in Ubuntu Natty
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Tim Gardner tim.gard...@canonical.com wrote: On 12/13/2010 09:34 PM, Ronan Jouchet wrote: ... I'm not opposed to disabling RT_GROUP_SCHED. After all, it _is_ marked EXPERIMENTAL. Have you proven that a kernel with RT_GROUP_SCHED disabled actually fixes the issues that you're seeing with JACK ? rtg -- Tim Gardner tim.gard...@canonical.com Hi Tim, Till now I'm only relying on las expertise, discussion with him on IRC, and the info he summed up at http://jackaudio.org/linux_group_sched To be certain, somebody should compile and test two Ubuntu kernels differing only on RT_GROUP_SCHED. I won't have much time due to end of year holidays, maybe somebody else can do / has already done this. Ronan -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: RT_GROUP_SCHED kernel option makes JACK unusable in Ubuntu Natty
Hi, 2010/12/14 Ronan Jouchet ro...@jouchet.fr: [...] To be certain, somebody should compile and test two Ubuntu kernels differing only on RT_GROUP_SCHED. I won't have much time due to end of year holidays, maybe somebody else can do / has already done this. The -lowlatency 2.6.37-8.21~ppa1 kernel have RT_GROUP_SCHED enabled. Instead the 2.6.37-9.22~ppa1 one's have RT_GROUP_SCHED disabled. Anyone could test those? Ciao, Alessio -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: RT_GROUP_SCHED kernel option makes JACK unusable in Ubuntu Natty
On 10-12-14 02:38 PM, ailo wrote: On 12/14/2010 08:06 PM, Alessio Igor Bogani wrote: The -lowlatency 2.6.37-8.21~ppa1 kernel have RT_GROUP_SCHED enabled. Instead the 2.6.37-9.22~ppa1 one's have RT_GROUP_SCHED disabled. Anyone could test those? Ciao, Alessio On Natty, 2.6.37-9.22~ppa1, Virtualbox ... I confirm 2.6.37-9.22~ppa1 from abogani PPA (RT_GROUP_SCHED disabled) works fine. I will leave the decision to Alessio (or somebody else from the kernel team) to close or not https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/690010 , since a proper solution implementing cgroups management may be preferable and implementable. Alessio, thanks for the very quick response, now, back to actually testing this kernel :) Bye, Ronan Jouchet -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: RT_GROUP_SCHED kernel option makes JACK unusable in Ubuntu Natty
On 10-12-14 11:39 PM, Daniel Chen wrote: On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Ronan Jouchetro...@jouchet.fr wrote: I confirm 2.6.37-9.22~ppa1 from abogani PPA (RT_GROUP_SCHED disabled) works fine. I will leave the decision to Alessio (or somebody else from the kernel team) to close or not https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/690010 , since a proper solution implementing cgroups management may be preferable and implementable. As Paul alludes to, changing this Ubuntu kernel config option doesn't resolve the real issue, and I wouldn't be keen on changing the option that clearly works for other applications. -Dan 101% agreed, if this option is here to stay (and it seems to be), a proper solution implementing cgroups management would be preferable Ronan -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Unity as depends in ubuntu-desktop (LP: #683833)
Hi! In Edubuntu, we need to make Unity an optional installation rather than by default. Unity is already an installation option from the installer via a Ubiquity plugin, we're sticking with the classic desktop by default since it's better suited for LTSP and currently offers better usability. Unity is currently marked as depends in ubuntu-desktop, which edubuntu-desktop depends on. If it were marked as recommends it should allow Edubuntu to ship it and only install it if the user selects it, without negatively affecting anything else. Bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/683833 -Jonathan -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Post-meeting Mail
Ok, so i will leave the issue of the IRC structure alone, its clear that some of the loco veterans dont want change, even for the benefit of the loco. But also if i bring it up again i may get kicked from the loco. So now we have that sorted, i am agreeing not to bring up any more issues about the loco that need discussing, because its evident that some people in the loco are disturbed by this. So you will hear no more complaints nor see any more action from me on this front. As for the social stuff, if everyone just announces meetings and events on the social platform of their choice (be that facebook, identica, diaspora or whatever) then people will re-tweet it and know about it, so we may get more activity and participation. Even things like Urban Terror and stuff should be announced. Thanks, Ryan Macnish (nisshh) -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Compatibility between Ubuntu and GNOME developer strategies
Hi guys, I attended the GNOME Developer Documentation and Tools hackfest in Berlin last week. The aim of the hackfest was to work on improving resources for developers who use (or want to use) the GNOME platform. A number of interesting issues were discussed and we made good progress addressing some them (see [1][2][3] for summaries). I'd like to make sure that Ubuntu derives full benefit from this work, and to encourage people to come and work upstream on some of it. DEVELOPER STORY What is Ubuntu's story for new developers? That is, how are new developers, of different types, introduced to the platform? Is it based on Quickly? I feel that it would be advantageous to match the Ubuntu and GNOME stories to as great an extent as possible. That way, developers for the GNOME platform are also developers for the Ubuntu platform and vice versa. We developed the GNOME story a little at the hackfest. It's based on five key GNOME languages (C, C++, JS, Python, Vala), and we intend to emphasise different languages for different types of developer. The hook into the platform is a set of exciting, focused tutorials (see below). We'll also provide a blessed (but not exclusive) development environment, which will probably centre around the Anjuta IDE for coding and (possibly) the OpenSuSE build service for deployment. It shouldn't be difficult to provide this environment in Ubuntu. DEPLOYMENT Deployment is something that GNOME hasn't really tackled before, but it's an important part of the story. At the moment, I think it's fair to say that deployment on desktop Linux is an issue for new developers. Packaging can be difficult and confusing, and distribution channels aren't always easy to tap into. Ubuntu has been trying to address this with initiatives like Quickly and the Software Centre app store. My question here is, how can we get this sort of thing working upstream so everyone benefits? (A Quickly plugin for Anjuta was discussed, for example.) DOCUMENTATION There have been some nice improvements to library.gnome.org and we're also planning to relaunch the developer.gnome.org portal. This will feature a new, up-to-date platform overview, good conceptual overviews of key frameworks/libraries like GStreamer, and a number of quick tutorials designed to get new developers to dive in to GTK/GNOME development. There's lots more work to be done on these, but the first batch is looking good. Ideas/development would be especially welcome in this area - we really need contributors. This initiative is still in its infancy but I think that with a bit of work we can make GNOME (and Ubuntu) an extremely compelling development platform. I should also emphasise that upstream are very receptive to input and are extremely keen to cooperate. I'd love to hear your thoughts on this, and to encourage you to participate! Thanks, Phil [1] - http://blogs.gnome.org/johannes/2010/12/06/development-documentation-and-tools-hackfest-wrap-up/ [2] - http://philbull.livejournal.com/57007.html [3] - http://www.0d.be/2010/12/07/dev-doc-tools-hackfest-2/ -- Phil Bull https://launchpad.net/~philbull Book - http://nostarch.com/ubuntu4.htm -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: How to target bugs and features to future Ubuntu releases
One word to describe my feelings on thisHallelujah! On Thu, 2010-12-09 at 12:15 -0600, Kate Stewart wrote: For those of you who target bugs and features to releases, you may have noticed that there is now an o-series and p-series available. This means that it is now possible to target bugs and features to future Ubuntu releases, something we couldn't easily do before. Many thanks to the launchpad team for making this available, to help with our release management!!! :) The purpose of these future release planning buckets is so we can track bugs and features. If we figure out we're not going to be able to get some bugs fixed or some features implemented in natty, but don't want to lose track of them and we can now indicate when they should get worked on. Please note that code can not be uploaded to the future releases though, until they become active. The use of the milestone later was used historically by some to indicate a bug or feature should be looked at in the future, but it lacked release-level granularity, and was inconsistently applied. The introduction of release+1 (o-series) and release+2 (p-series), will provide more granularity, and help us track things a bit better. When Natty is released, o-series will become the active release (with the appropriate keyword ;)), and code/fixes can start being assigned to it then. When o-series becomes active development release, a q-series planning bucket will be introduced. Going forward we'll be looking to keep a release+1 and release+2 available on a rolling basis. If you have any questions, please let me know. I'll be starting to work through the WIKI pages to update them to document this, so if you find a reference that looks like it needs updating, feel free to point it out. :) Thanks, Kate -- Robbie Williamson rob...@ubuntu.com Ubuntu robbiew[irc.freenode.net] You can't be lucky all the time, but you can be smart everyday -Mos Def Arrogance is thinking you are better than everyone else, while Confidence is knowing no one else is better than you. -Me ;) -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Ubuntu Kernel Team Meeting Minutes - 2010-12-14
= Meeting Minutes = [[http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/12/14/%23ubuntu-meeting.txt|IRC Log of the meeting.]] BR [[http://voices.canonical.com/kernelteam|Meeting minutes.]] == Agenda == [[https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting#Tues, 14 Dec, 2010|20101214 Meeting Agenda]] === ARM Status === * Marvel (mvl-dove) * Nothing new this week. * Texas Instruments (ti-omap) * Bug 633227: Native building crash. * Tested with Linaro 2.6.37 kernel which is close to upstream mainline. Native building still fails even with highmem disabled. * X-loader and U-boot update from TI. * Received 1700+ patch update from TI for 2.6.35 based Natty branch. This has been submitted to the mailing list, applied and pushed. * Freescale i.MX51 * Bug 605042: Java crash issue. * Due to a lack of FSL HW in the kernel team this has been difficult to diagnose. However, some testing was done on a Babbage 2.0 board but was unable to reproduce the issue. === Release Metrics === Release Meeting Bugs (8 bugs, 14 Blueprints) Alpha 2 Milestoned Bugs (28 across all packages (up 10)) * 1 linux kernel bugs (no change) * 0 linux-ti-omap bugs (no change) * 0 linux-meta-ti-omap bug (no change) Release Targeted Bugs (133 across all packages (up 7)) * 11 linux kernel bugs (up 2) * 0 linux-ti-omap bugs (no change) * 0 linux-meta-ti-omap bug (no change) Milestoned Features * 6 blueprints (Including HWE Blueprints) Maverick Updates Bugs * 54 Linux Bugs (up 2) Lucid Updates Bugs * 111 Linux Bugs (no change) Bugs with Patches Attached:142 (up 2) * [[https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bugs?field.has_patch=on | Bugs with Patches]] * [[http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ogasawara/csv-stats/bugs-with-patches/linux/ | Breakdown by status]] === Blueprints: Natty Bug Handling === nothing to report. === Blueprints: Enhancements to the firmware test suite === Changes to fwts (natty development branch): * Method test - check for null object returns * s4 - check for swap before hibernate === Blueprints: Handling of Deviations from Standard Kernels === Nothing new === Blueprints: Review of the Stable Maintenance Process (sconklin / bjf) === Kernels for both Lucid and Maveric had all associated bugs verified last week. This means that it was not necessary to revert any fixes or re-upload the kernels, as described in the stable cadence process: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/StableReleaseCadence BRBR This means that the kernels currently in -proposed could immediately enter the Testing phase by the Cert and QA teams. BRBR Thanks to everyone who tested their bugs promptly. This is the optimal way to run the new process, with fast testing and no reverts. It's been a little chaotic at times, and I'd like to thank the archive admins, members of the cert team, and everyone else who is helping shepard this new process through the first few cycles. BRBR All releases other than Lucid and Maverick (except Hardy) have new packages in -proposed, which contain only security CVE fixes. Hardy is delayed due to a problem we encountered in moving to the new non-virtualized build ppa, and should be built by the end of this week. BRBR Testing status for these security-only kernels is unknown. They do not follow the same testing process as the Lucid and Maverick stable kernels. BRBR Most members of the kernel team are on holiday until after the new year. We plan to try to upload -proposed kernels to begin a new cycle by Friday, Jan 7th. === Status: Current -proposed testing by cert. team === The certifcation testing has started for Lucid proposed kernel, but we cannot report on results yet. cr3 and brendand are working hard on this and they should be able to have results for both Maverick and Lucid before the end of the week === Status: Natty === The Natty kernel is at 2.6.37-9.22 (rebased against 2.6.37-rc5). Items of interest include: * A number of external drivers have been updated: dm-raid4-5, omnibook, ndiswrapper, and iscsitarget. * The module RO/NX patches have been re-instated with bug fixes. * 2.6.37-rc6 is imminent and will likely be the last kernel version until after the holidays. * New firmware files to support new intel wifi adapters in the 6000 and 6050 family. === Security bugfix kernels - Maverick/Lucid/Karmic/Hardy/Dapper (sconklin / bjf) === || Package || Upd/Sec || Proposed || TiP || Verified || || karmic linux-ec2 || 2.6.31-307.22|| 2.6.31-307.23||0 ||0 || || --- linux || 2.6.31-22.69 || 2.6.31-22.70 ||0 ||0 || || || || || || || || lucidlinux-ec2 || 2.6.32-310.21|| 2.6.32-311.23
Package categorization
Hey Guys! I was really thrilled to hear about the changes to the package structure in Natty (separating the common packages from Ubuntu/Kubuntu specific and so on), and I have some questions: 1. Will the docs be separated from the app packages? 2. Can I assign different members for each distribution? (I want someone to work in Kubuntu but I won't let him touch the core) 3. (This one is a little of topic) I need some help implementing a mechanism that will not display Hebrew strings in CLI (Linux kernel bugs) who do you think I should turn to? Kind regards, Yaron Shahrabani Hebrew translator -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
Re: Call for Maverick language pack update testing
El dt 14 de 12 de 2010 a les 00:12 +0100, en/na Ask Hjorth Larsen va escriure: Hi David On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 6:52 PM, David Planella david.plane...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi translators, We've uploaded language packs in the maverick-proposed repository for you to test before they are released to all users. These should contain all your updates and fixes in translations done since the release date. I'd like to ask teams to test them and provide an indication that they've done so by following some simple steps and submitting a signoff, so that we know that translations have been successfully tested. Simply follow the instructions in this page and add your team's signoff in the table at the bottom: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/LanguagePackUpdatesQA I already have the langpack PPA enabled, and that seems to be the same version. Some text from the apt-get when I wanted to install the update after enabling the -proposed archive: version '1:10.10+20101204' (Ubuntu:10.10/maverick-proposed, PPA for Ubuntu language pack builders:10.10/maverick [all]) for 'language-pack-da' I.e. it refuses to install as the same package is already installed. Hey Ask, That's a good point you are raising, and I should perhaps mention it on the next call for testing: if you are using the language packs PPA you don't need to install the package in -proposed. As the packages from the -proposed repository are a copy of the ones from the PPA, with the same version, you won't be able to just install them. We also make sure that during the testing period there are no newer PPA packages created, so that everyone is testing the right package, so you'll notice that this week there will not be a fresh Maverick language pack there. So I can trust that I'm testing the correct language pack now, right? Yes, if you are using the package from the Maverick PPA, you are testing the correct one. Thanks a lot for testing, I've seen that people have started doing it and providing the signoff at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/LanguagePackUpdatesQA#Test%20results%20Ubuntu%2010.10%20%22Maverick%20Meerkat%22 Cheers, David. -- David Planella Ubuntu Translations Coordinator www.ubuntu.com / www.davidplanella.wordpress.com www.identi.ca/dplanella / www.twitter.com/dplanella signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
Re: Chromium translations in launchpad and errors
Hi,
based on the most common mistakes i've noticed so far, i'd like to
clarify something.
In the error page, i show both ph variables (as upstream needs them),
and %{} variables (as i decided to expose them in gettext, it's supposed
to be more readable).
ex:
Grit GetText
ph name=DOMAIN/ = %{DOMAIN}
It's important to respect:
- the variable names (don't change the case, or name or anything inside
the braces). The syntax is %{NAME}, in that order, no space between '%'
and '{'
- all the variables from the untranslated string *must* be in the
translated string (you can change their order if it's better in your
lang, but you must have the same number and names of variables overall)
(It's too bad it's not possible to auto-check that in LP. Maybe i should
file a feature request in rosetta)
in case you didn't notice, you can already see your work in the
packages. In the the daily PPA, it's almost an instant reward.
Besides the PPAs, I just posted a new Chromium update with as many
strings as possible (except the inspector-* template, which still needs
some work upstream). It's already in Natty, and will land in Maverick
and Lucid shortly.
/Fabien
-Original Message-
From: Fabien Tassin f...@ubuntu.com
To: launchpad-translat...@lists.launchpad.net,
ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Chromium translations in launchpad and errors
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 00:53:30 +0100
Hi,
As you've already learned on David's blog, Chromium is now translatable
in Launchpad. Some of you discovered it weeks ago and already started to
contribute strings. I'm glad you did because it helped me find a lot of
corner cases when i created the machinery behind all this.
if you want the details, please see David's blog:
http://davidplanella.wordpress.com/2010/12/09/chromium-opens-to-community-translations-in-launchpad/
You may have noticed that some of your contributions are already visible
in the Ubuntu builds of Chromium (official and PPA).
I'm glad to add that the first batch of strings landed upstream
yesterday and that other distros are willing to use them and maybe even
contribute.
What i want to tell you about here is the error checking.
In a nutshell, Chromium has its translations in a format called Grit
(some sort of XLST, an XML language), while Launchpad only handles
GetText, as i'm sure you already know.
Those formats are very different, meaning the back and forth conversion
was not that easy to achieve, and is very error prone. A simple error in
a gettext string can lead to bogus XML and then to a build failure (as
those files are parsed during build). I've implemented several sanity
tests in my converter, and the results are always visible there:
http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/chromium/translations/trunk/converter-output.html
The reason that page exists is that it is not possible for me to inform
Launchpad/Rosetta that i consider a given translation bogus and that i
rejected it. You may think it's translated because LP tells you so, but
it's not used, and won't be until it's fixed.
This page is updated daily, at the same time i feed the strings to
Launchpad. Launchpad also exports every day the strings you are
contributing, but both actions are not in sync, so it may take 1 or 2
days for your strings to be processed by my converter, and errors to
appear in that page. (I've heard some of those errors are already fixed,
thank you! so tomorrow, they should disappear)
I'd appreciate if you could have a look at that page from time to time.
To make your life easier, I've tried to provide details about what's
wrong with each string and also a link back to that string in Launchpad.
If it's unclear, please ask.
/Fabien
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Re: off and on sound problem
On 12/13/2010 10:38 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 22:30 -0500, Douglas Pollard wrote: On 12/13/2010 09:59 PM, Douglas Pollard wrote: On 12/13/2010 09:47 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 21:40 -0500, Douglas Pollard wrote: On 12/13/2010 09:31 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 21:28 -0500, Douglas Pollard wrote: On 12/13/2010 08:25 PM, Mike Holstein wrote: On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Douglas Pollard dougp...@verizon.net wrote: I am using Ubuntu studio 10.04. I get sound for a while after start up but then loose it. I typed pavucontrol into the terminal. The volume control panel comes up and I get an error message ( connection failed: connection terminated). The little speaker thingies in the Volume control are showing and X as if muted. If I restart I have sound for a while but then loose it. If I play VLC media player sound stops and starts and beaks up and after a while it shuts down altogether. I would appreciate any help with this. Thanks Doug -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users let us know what hardware your using... are you using JACK? is this an internal card? or a USB device? you can run lspci in a terminal and paste that here, or lsusb i have a VIA sound device that just dies sometimes... what kernel are you using? uname -a have you tried other kernels? -- MH http://www.myspace.com/mikeholstein http://opensourcemusician.libsyn.com/ I have an AMD 64 dual chip motherboard that I installed about 3 years ago . The computer is an HPpavilian 720 I am trying to think how to see what kernal is in here. I downloaded Ubuntu Studio 10.04 and installed it. I see if I can figure out what the kernel is.Doug Open a terminal emulation and run uname -a ;) No I have not. I just installed Ubuntu Studio 10.04 about two months ago but have not had consistent sound since then. Doug On an Ubuntu forum on German, regarding to codec Via VT1708 someone solved this by installing http://packages.ubuntu.com/de/lucid/linux-backports-modules-alsa-lucid-generic To know what kernel you are running run uname -r or better uname -a Here is the kernal output from the terminal Doug Linux ubuntu 2.6.32-27-preempt #49-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Thu Dec 2 03:21:34 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux I just played some music with VLC and it played well for about 5 minuets and then i got th message that the connection failed. that sounds like a hardware problem? Doug :( linux-backports-modules-alsa-lucid-generic I did ignore the word 'generic' for this package. It seems to be able to solve your issue for a default, resp. upgraded default kernel. Hm? Perhaps you should get a low cost PCI card, that anyway would be better for audio, but your card. I e.g. bought a TerraTec EWX 24/96 PCI card at Ebay for less, but 30,- EUR. Compared to professional studio equipment the bass sounds muddy, compared to a crappy on-board device as yours, it not only does sound amazing good, but also ships with very good latency, when used as a duplex device and btw. the PCI MPU MIDInterface will cause less MIDI jitter, but other solutions. 2 cents, Ralf Ok, In trying to solve this I remembered that I had been given an older sound blaster card. Thinking it might be a hardware problem, I plugged it in and man it sounds good. But after about 5 minutes of playing I get the same connection lost warning and no sound. I restarted the box and I have system sounds but no sound in VLC or other players. If I restart the computer I seem to have a connection but loose it. Sometimes system sounds and sound, sometimes only system sounds. Any help will be appreciated here, Thanks Doug -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: off and on sound problem
Try disabling the via device in the bios On Dec 14, 2010 11:51 AM, Douglas Pollard dougp...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/13/2010 10:38 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 22:30 -0500, Douglas Pollard wrote: On 12/13/2010 09:59 PM, Douglas Pollard wrote: On 12/13/2010 09:47 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 21:40 -0500, Douglas Pollard wrote: On 12/13/2010 09:31 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 21:28 -0500, Douglas Pollard wrote: On 12/13/2010 08:25 PM, Mike Holstein wrote: On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Douglas Pollard dougp...@verizon.net wrote: I am using Ubuntu studio 10.04. I get sound for a while after start up but then loose it. I typed pavucontrol into the terminal. The volume control panel comes up and I get an error message ( connection failed: connection terminated). The little speaker thingies in the Volume control are showing and X as if muted. If I restart I have sound for a while but then loose it. If I play VLC media player sound stops and starts and beaks up and after a while it shuts down altogether. I would appreciate any help with this. Thanks Doug -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users let us know what hardware your using... are you using JACK? is this an internal card? or a USB device? you can run lspci in a terminal and paste that here, or lsusb i have a VIA sound device that just dies sometimes... what kernel are you using? uname -a have you tried other kernels? -- MH http://www.myspace.com/mikeholstein http://opensourcemusician.libsyn.com/ I have an AMD 64 dual chip motherboard that I installed about 3 years ago . The computer is an HPpavilian 720 I am trying to think how to see what kernal is in here. I downloaded Ubuntu Studio 10.04 and installed it. I see if I can figure out what the kernel is. Doug Open a terminal emulation and run uname -a ;) No I have not. I just installed Ubuntu Studio 10.04 about two months ago but have not had consistent sound since then. Doug On an Ubuntu forum on German, regarding to codec Via VT1708 someone solved this by installing http://packages.ubuntu.com/de/lucid/linux-backports-modules-alsa-lucid-generic To know what kernel you are running run uname -r or better uname -a Here is the kernal output from the terminal Doug Linux ubuntu 2.6.32-27-preempt #49-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Thu Dec 2 03:21:34 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux I just played some music with VLC and it played well for about 5 minuets and then i got th message that the connection failed. that sounds like a hardware problem? Doug :( linux-backports-modules-alsa-lucid-generic I did ignore the word 'generic' for this package. It seems to be able to solve your issue for a default, resp. upgraded default kernel. Hm? Perhaps you should get a low cost PCI card, that anyway would be better for audio, but your card. I e.g. bought a TerraTec EWX 24/96 PCI card at Ebay for less, but 30,- EUR. Compared to professional studio equipment the bass sounds muddy, compared to a crappy on-board device as yours, it not only does sound amazing good, but also ships with very good latency, when used as a duplex device and btw. the PCI MPU MIDInterface will cause less MIDI jitter, but other solutions. 2 cents, Ralf Ok, In trying to solve this I remembered that I had been given an older sound blaster card. Thinking it might be a hardware problem, I plugged it in and man it sounds good. But after about 5 minutes of playing I get the same connection lost warning and no sound. I restarted the box and I have system sounds but no sound in VLC or other players. If I restart the computer I seem to have a connection but loose it. Sometimes system sounds and sound, sometimes only system sounds. Any help will be appreciated here, Thanks Doug -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: off and on sound problem
On 12/14/2010 12:24 PM, Mike Holstein wrote: Try disabling the via device in the bios On Dec 14, 2010 11:51 AM, Douglas Pollard dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/13/2010 10:38 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 22:30 -0500, Douglas Pollard wrote: On 12/13/2010 09:59 PM, Douglas Pollard wrote: On 12/13/2010 09:47 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 21:40 -0500, Douglas Pollard wrote: On 12/13/2010 09:31 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 21:28 -0500, Douglas Pollard wrote: On 12/13/2010 08:25 PM, Mike Holstein wrote: On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Douglas Pollard dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net wrote: I am using Ubuntu studio 10.04. I get sound for a while after start up but then loose it. I typed pavucontrol into the terminal. The volume control panel comes up and I get an error message ( connection failed: connection terminated). The little speaker thingies in the Volume control are showing and X as if muted. If I restart I have sound for a while but then loose it. If I play VLC media player sound stops and starts and beaks up and after a while it shuts down altogether. I would appreciate any help with this. Thanks Doug -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users let us know what hardware your using... are you using JACK? is this an internal card? or a USB device? you can run lspci in a terminal and paste that here, or lsusb i have a VIA sound device that just dies sometimes... what kernel are you using? uname -a have you tried other kernels? -- MH http://www.myspace.com/mikeholstein http://opensourcemusician.libsyn.com/ I have an AMD 64 dual chip motherboard that I installed about 3 years ago . The computer is an HPpavilian 720 I am trying to think how to see what kernal is in here. I downloaded Ubuntu Studio 10.04 and installed it. I see if I can figure out what the kernel is. Doug Open a terminal emulation and run uname -a ;) No I have not. I just installed Ubuntu Studio 10.04 about two months ago but have not had consistent sound since then. Doug On an Ubuntu forum on German, regarding to codec Via VT1708 someone solved this by installing http://packages.ubuntu.com/de/lucid/linux-backports-modules-alsa-lucid-generic To know what kernel you are running run uname -r or better uname -a Here is the kernal output from the terminal Doug Linux ubuntu 2.6.32-27-preempt #49-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Thu Dec 2 03:21:34 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux I just played some music with VLC and it played well for about 5 minuets and then i got th message that the connection failed. that sounds like a hardware problem? Doug :( linux-backports-modules-alsa-lucid-generic I did ignore the word 'generic' for this package. It seems to be able to solve your issue for a default, resp. upgraded default kernel. Hm? Perhaps you should get a low cost PCI card, that anyway would be better for audio, but your card. I e.g. bought a TerraTec EWX 24/96 PCI card at Ebay for less, but 30,- EUR. Compared to professional studio equipment the bass sounds muddy, compared to a crappy on-board device as yours, it not only does sound amazing good, but also ships with very good latency, when used as a duplex device and btw. the PCI MPU MIDInterface will cause less MIDI jitter, but other solutions. 2 cents, Ralf Ok, In trying to solve this I remembered that I had been given an older sound blaster card. Thinking it might be a hardware problem, I plugged it in and man it sounds good. But after about 5 minutes of playing I get the same connection lost warning and no sound. I restarted the box and I have system sounds but no sound in VLC or other players. If I restart the computer I seem to have a connection but loose it. Sometimes system sounds and sound, sometimes only system sounds. Any help will be appreciated here, Thanks Doug -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users Mike, I could not find an via device in the bios. What is that??Doug -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: off and on sound problem
Your onboard audio device ... try disabling it in the bios... On Dec 14, 2010 12:50 PM, Douglas Pollard dougp...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/14/2010 12:24 PM, Mike Holstein wrote: Try disabling the via device in the bios On Dec 14, 2010 11:51 AM, Douglas Pollard dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/13/2010 10:38 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 22:30 -0500, Douglas Pollard wrote: On 12/13/2010 09:59 PM, Douglas Pollard wrote: On 12/13/2010 09:47 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 21:40 -0500, Douglas Pollard wrote: On 12/13/2010 09:31 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 21:28 -0500, Douglas Pollard wrote: On 12/13/2010 08:25 PM, Mike Holstein wrote: On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Douglas Pollard dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net wrote: I am using Ubuntu studio 10.04. I get sound for a while after start up but then loose it. I typed pavucontrol into the terminal. The volume control panel comes up and I get an error message ( connection failed: connection terminated). The little speaker thingies in the Volume control are showing and X as if muted. If I restart I have sound for a while but then loose it. If I play VLC media player sound stops and starts and beaks up and after a while it shuts down altogether. I would appreciate any help with this. Thanks Doug -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users let us know what hardware your using... are you using JACK? is this an internal card? or a USB device? you can run lspci in a terminal and paste that here, or lsusb i have a VIA sound device that just dies sometimes... what kernel are you using? uname -a have you tried other kernels? -- MH http://www.myspace.com/mikeholstein http://opensourcemusician.libsyn.com/ I have an AMD 64 dual chip motherboard that I installed about 3 years ago . The computer is an HPpavilian 720 I am trying to think how to see what kernal is in here. I downloaded Ubuntu Studio 10.04 and installed it. I see if I can figure out what the kernel is. Doug Open a terminal emulation and run uname -a ;) No I have not. I just installed Ubuntu Studio 10.04 about two months ago but have not had consistent sound since then. Doug On an Ubuntu forum on German, regarding to codec Via VT1708 someone solved this by installing http://packages.ubuntu.com/de/lucid/linux-backports-modules-alsa-lucid-generic To know what kernel you are running run uname -r or better uname -a Here is the kernal output from the terminal Doug Linux ubuntu 2.6.32-27-preempt #49-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Thu Dec 2 03:21:34 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux I just played some music with VLC and it played well for about 5 minuets and then i got th message that the connection failed. that sounds like a hardware problem? Doug :( linux-backports-modules-alsa-lucid-generic I did ignore the word 'generic' for this package. It seems to be able to solve your issue for a default, resp. upgraded default kernel. Hm? Perhaps you should get a low cost PCI card, that anyway would be better for audio, but your card. I e.g. bought a TerraTec EWX 24/96 PCI card at Ebay for less, but 30,- EUR. Compared to professional studio equipment the bass sounds muddy, compared to a crappy on-board device as yours, it not only does sound amazing good, but also ships with very good latency, when used as a duplex device and btw. the PCI MPU MIDInterface will cause less MIDI jitter, but other solutions. 2 cents, Ralf Ok, In trying to solve this I remembered that I had been given an older sound blaster card. Thinking it might be a hardware problem, I plugged it in and man it sounds good. But after about 5 minutes of playing I get the same connection lost warning and no sound. I restarted the box and I have system sounds but no sound in VLC or other players. If I restart the computer I seem to have a connection but loose it. Sometimes system sounds and sound, sometimes only system sounds. Any help will be appreciated here, Thanks Doug -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users Mike, I could not find an via device in the bios. What is that?? Doug -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: off and on sound problem
On 12/14/2010 01:51 PM, Mike Holstein wrote: Your onboard audio device ... try disabling it in the bios... On Dec 14, 2010 12:50 PM, Douglas Pollard dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/14/2010 12:24 PM, Mike Holstein wrote: Try disabling the via device in the bios On Dec 14, 2010 11:51 AM, Douglas Pollard dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/13/2010 10:38 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 22:30 -0500, Douglas Pollard wrote: On 12/13/2010 09:59 PM, Douglas Pollard wrote: On 12/13/2010 09:47 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 21:40 -0500, Douglas Pollard wrote: On 12/13/2010 09:31 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 21:28 -0500, Douglas Pollard wrote: On 12/13/2010 08:25 PM, Mike Holstein wrote: On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Douglas Pollard dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net wrote: I am using Ubuntu studio 10.04. I get sound for a while after start up but then loose it. I typed pavucontrol into the terminal. The volume control panel comes up and I get an error message ( connection failed: connection terminated). The little speaker thingies in the Volume control are showing and X as if muted. If I restart I have sound for a while but then loose it. If I play VLC media player sound stops and starts and beaks up and after a while it shuts down altogether. I would appreciate any help with this. Thanks Doug -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users let us know what hardware your using... are you using JACK? is this an internal card? or a USB device? you can run lspci in a terminal and paste that here, or lsusb i have a VIA sound device that just dies sometimes... what kernel are you using? uname -a have you tried other kernels? -- MH http://www.myspace.com/mikeholstein http://opensourcemusician.libsyn.com/ I have an AMD 64 dual chip motherboard that I installed about 3 years ago . The computer is an HPpavilian 720 I am trying to think how to see what kernal is in here. I downloaded Ubuntu Studio 10.04 and installed it. I see if I can figure out what the kernel is. Doug Open a terminal emulation and run uname -a ;) No I have not. I just installed Ubuntu Studio 10.04 about two months ago but have not had consistent sound since then. Doug On an Ubuntu forum on German, regarding to codec Via VT1708 someone solved this by installing http://packages.ubuntu.com/de/lucid/linux-backports-modules-alsa-lucid-generic To know what kernel you are running run uname -r or better uname -a Here is the kernal output from the terminal Doug Linux ubuntu 2.6.32-27-preempt #49-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Thu Dec 2 03:21:34 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux I just played some music with VLC and it played well for about 5 minuets and then i got th message that the connection failed. that sounds like a hardware problem? Doug :( linux-backports-modules-alsa-lucid-generic I did ignore the word 'generic' for this package. It seems to be able to solve your issue for a default, resp. upgraded default kernel. Hm? Perhaps you should get a low cost PCI card, that anyway would be better for audio, but your card. I e.g. bought a TerraTec EWX 24/96 PCI card at Ebay for less, but 30,- EUR. Compared to professional studio equipment the bass sounds muddy, compared to a crappy on-board device as yours, it not only does sound amazing good, but also ships with very good latency, when used as a duplex device and btw. the PCI MPU MIDInterface will cause less MIDI jitter, but other solutions. 2 cents, Ralf Ok, In trying to solve this I remembered that I had been given an older sound blaster card. Thinking it might be a hardware problem, I plugged it in and man it sounds good. But after about 5 minutes of playing I get the same connection lost warning and no sound. I restarted the box and I have system sounds but no sound in VLC or other players. If I restart the computer I seem to have a connection but loose it. Sometimes system sounds and sound, sometimes only system sounds. Any help will be appreciated here, Thanks Doug -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
Re: off and on sound problem
Might not be there... every bios can be different... what is the computer again?... might find some info about the bios options googling around a bit... On Dec 14, 2010 2:07 PM, Douglas Pollard dougp...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/14/2010 01:51 PM, Mike Holstein wrote: Your onboard audio device ... try disabling it in the bios... On Dec 14, 2010 12:50 PM, Douglas Pollard dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/14/2010 12:24 PM, Mike Holstein wrote: Try disabling the via device in the bios On Dec 14, 2010 11:51 AM, Douglas Pollard dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/13/2010 10:38 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 22:30 -0500, Douglas Pollard wrote: On 12/13/2010 09:59 PM, Douglas Pollard wrote: On 12/13/2010 09:47 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 21:40 -0500, Douglas Pollard wrote: On 12/13/2010 09:31 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 21:28 -0500, Douglas Pollard wrote: On 12/13/2010 08:25 PM, Mike Holstein wrote: On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Douglas Pollard dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net wrote: I am using Ubuntu studio 10.04. I get sound for a while after start up but then loose it. I typed pavucontrol into the terminal. The volume control panel comes up and I get an error message ( connection failed: connection terminated). The little speaker thingies in the Volume control are showing and X as if muted. If I restart I have sound for a while but then loose it. If I play VLC media player sound stops and starts and beaks up and after a while it shuts down altogether. I would appreciate any help with this. Thanks Doug -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users let us know what hardware your using... are you using JACK? is this an internal card? or a USB device? you can run lspci in a terminal and paste that here, or lsusb i have a VIA sound device that just dies sometimes... what kernel are you using? uname -a have you tried other kernels? -- MH http://www.myspace.com/mikeholstein http://opensourcemusician.libsyn.com/ I have an AMD 64 dual chip motherboard that I installed about 3 years ago . The computer is an HPpavilian 720 I am trying to think how to see what kernal is in here. I downloaded Ubuntu Studio 10.04 and installed it. I see if I can figure out what the kernel is. Doug Open a terminal emulation and run uname -a ;) No I have not. I just installed Ubuntu Studio 10.04 about two months ago but have not had consistent sound since then. Doug On an Ubuntu forum on German, regarding to codec Via VT1708 someone solved this by installing http://packages.ubuntu.com/de/lucid/linux-backports-modules-alsa-lucid-generic To know what kernel you are running run uname -r or better uname -a Here is the kernal output from the terminal Doug Linux ubuntu 2.6.32-27-preempt #49-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Thu Dec 2 03:21:34 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux I just played some music with VLC and it played well for about 5 minuets and then i got th message that the connection failed. that sounds like a hardware problem? Doug :( linux-backports-modules-alsa-lucid-generic I did ignore the word 'generic' for this package. It seems to be able to solve your issue for a default, resp. upgraded default kernel. Hm? Perhaps you should get a low cost PCI card, that anyway would be better for audio, but your card. I e.g. bought a TerraTec EWX 24/96 PCI card at Ebay for less, but 30,- EUR. Compared to professional studio equipment the bass sounds muddy, compared to a crappy on-board device as yours, it not only does sound amazing good, but also ships with very good latency, when used as a duplex device and btw. the PCI MPU MIDInterface will cause less MIDI jitter, but other solutions. 2 cents, Ralf Ok, In trying to solve this I remembered that I had been given an older sound blaster card. Thinking it might be a hardware problem, I plugged it in and man it sounds good. But after about 5 minutes of playing I get the same connection lost warning and no sound. I restarted the box and I have system sounds but no sound in VLC or other players. If I restart the computer I seem to have a connection but loose it. Sometimes system sounds and sound, sometimes only
Re: off and on sound problem
On 12/14/2010 02:26 PM, Mike Holstein wrote: Might not be there... every bios can be different... what is the computer again?... might find some info about the bios options googling around a bit... On Dec 14, 2010 2:07 PM, Douglas Pollard dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/14/2010 01:51 PM, Mike Holstein wrote: Your onboard audio device ... try disabling it in the bios... On Dec 14, 2010 12:50 PM, Douglas Pollard dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/14/2010 12:24 PM, Mike Holstein wrote: Try disabling the via device in the bios On Dec 14, 2010 11:51 AM, Douglas Pollard dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/13/2010 10:38 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 22:30 -0500, Douglas Pollard wrote: On 12/13/2010 09:59 PM, Douglas Pollard wrote: On 12/13/2010 09:47 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 21:40 -0500, Douglas Pollard wrote: On 12/13/2010 09:31 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 21:28 -0500, Douglas Pollard wrote: On 12/13/2010 08:25 PM, Mike Holstein wrote: On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Douglas Pollard dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net wrote: I am using Ubuntu studio 10.04. I get sound for a while after start up but then loose it. I typed pavucontrol into the terminal. The volume control panel comes up and I get an error message ( connection failed: connection terminated). The little speaker thingies in the Volume control are showing and X as if muted. If I restart I have sound for a while but then loose it. If I play VLC media player sound stops and starts and beaks up and after a while it shuts down altogether. I would appreciate any help with this. Thanks Doug -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users let us know what hardware your using... are you using JACK? is this an internal card? or a USB device? you can run lspci in a terminal and paste that here, or lsusb i have a VIA sound device that just dies sometimes... what kernel are you using? uname -a have you tried other kernels? -- MH http://www.myspace.com/mikeholstein http://opensourcemusician.libsyn.com/ I have an AMD 64 dual chip motherboard that I installed about 3 years ago . The computer is an HPpavilian 720 I am trying to think how to see what kernal is in here. I downloaded Ubuntu Studio 10.04 and installed it. I see if I can figure out what the kernel is. Doug Open a terminal emulation and run uname -a ;) No I have not. I just installed Ubuntu Studio 10.04 about two months ago but have not had consistent sound since then. Doug On an Ubuntu forum on German, regarding to codec Via VT1708 someone solved this by installing http://packages.ubuntu.com/de/lucid/linux-backports-modules-alsa-lucid-generic To know what kernel you are running run uname -r or better uname -a Here is the kernal output from the terminal Doug Linux ubuntu 2.6.32-27-preempt #49-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Thu Dec 2 03:21:34 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux I just played some music with VLC and it played well for about 5 minuets and then i got th message that the connection failed. that sounds like a hardware problem? Doug :( linux-backports-modules-alsa-lucid-generic I did ignore the word 'generic' for this package. It seems to be able to solve your issue for a default, resp. upgraded default kernel. Hm? Perhaps you should get a low cost PCI card, that anyway would be better for audio, but your card. I e.g. bought a TerraTec EWX 24/96 PCI card at Ebay for less, but 30,- EUR. Compared to professional studio equipment the bass sounds muddy, compared to a crappy on-board device as yours, it not only does sound amazing good, but also ships with very good latency, when used as a duplex device and btw. the PCI MPU MIDInterface will cause
Re: off and on sound problem
if you get a minute, come to the IRC channel and look for me - holstein http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntustudiouio=d4 http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntustudiouio=d4maybe we can trouble-shoot it a little more in real-time On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Douglas Pollard dougp...@verizon.netwrote: On 12/14/2010 02:26 PM, Mike Holstein wrote: Might not be there... every bios can be different... what is the computer again?... might find some info about the bios options googling around a bit... On Dec 14, 2010 2:07 PM, Douglas Pollard dougp...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/14/2010 01:51 PM, Mike Holstein wrote: Your onboard audio device ... try disabling it in the bios... On Dec 14, 2010 12:50 PM, Douglas Pollard dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/14/2010 12:24 PM, Mike Holstein wrote: Try disabling the via device in the bios On Dec 14, 2010 11:51 AM, Douglas Pollard dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/13/2010 10:38 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 22:30 -0500, Douglas Pollard wrote: On 12/13/2010 09:59 PM, Douglas Pollard wrote: On 12/13/2010 09:47 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 21:40 -0500, Douglas Pollard wrote: On 12/13/2010 09:31 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 21:28 -0500, Douglas Pollard wrote: On 12/13/2010 08:25 PM, Mike Holstein wrote: On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Douglas Pollard dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net wrote: I am using Ubuntu studio 10.04. I get sound for a while after start up but then loose it. I typed pavucontrol into the terminal. The volume control panel comes up and I get an error message ( connection failed: connection terminated). The little speaker thingies in the Volume control are showing and X as if muted. If I restart I have sound for a while but then loose it. If I play VLC media player sound stops and starts and beaks up and after a while it shuts down altogether. I would appreciate any help with this. Thanks Doug -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users let us know what hardware your using... are you using JACK? is this an internal card? or a USB device? you can run lspci in a terminal and paste that here, or lsusb i have a VIA sound device that just dies sometimes... what kernel are you using? uname -a have you tried other kernels? -- MH http://www.myspace.com/mikeholstein http://opensourcemusician.libsyn.com/ I have an AMD 64 dual chip motherboard that I installed about 3 years ago . The computer is an HPpavilian 720 I am trying to think how to see what kernal is in here. I downloaded Ubuntu Studio 10.04 and installed it. I see if I can figure out what the kernel is. Doug Open a terminal emulation and run uname -a ;) No I have not. I just installed Ubuntu Studio 10.04 about two months ago but have not had consistent sound since then. Doug On an Ubuntu forum on German, regarding to codec Via VT1708 someone solved this by installing http://packages.ubuntu.com/de/lucid/linux-backports-modules-alsa-lucid-generic To know what kernel you are running run uname -r or better uname -a Here is the kernal output from the terminal Doug Linux ubuntu 2.6.32-27-preempt #49-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Thu Dec 2 03:21:34 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux I just played some music with VLC and it played well for about 5 minuets and then i got th message that the connection failed. that sounds like a hardware problem? Doug :( linux-backports-modules-alsa-lucid-generic I did ignore the word 'generic' for this package. It seems to be able to solve your issue for a default, resp. upgraded default kernel. Hm? Perhaps you should get a low cost PCI card, that anyway would be better for audio, but your card. I e.g. bought a TerraTec EWX 24/96 PCI card at Ebay for less, but 30,- EUR. Compared to professional studio equipment the bass sounds muddy, compared to a crappy on-board device as yours, it not only does sound amazing good, but also ships with very good latency, when used as a duplex device and btw. the PCI MPU MIDInterface will cause less MIDI jitter, but other solutions.
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On 12/14/2010 06:28 PM, Mike Holstein wrote: if you get a minute, come to the IRC channel and look for me - holstein http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntustudiouio=d4 http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntustudiouio=d4 maybe we can trouble-shoot it a little more in real-time On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Douglas Pollard dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/14/2010 02:26 PM, Mike Holstein wrote: Might not be there... every bios can be different... what is the computer again?... might find some info about the bios options googling around a bit... On Dec 14, 2010 2:07 PM, Douglas Pollard dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/14/2010 01:51 PM, Mike Holstein wrote: Your onboard audio device ... try disabling it in the bios... On Dec 14, 2010 12:50 PM, Douglas Pollard dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/14/2010 12:24 PM, Mike Holstein wrote: Try disabling the via device in the bios On Dec 14, 2010 11:51 AM, Douglas Pollard dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/13/2010 10:38 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 22:30 -0500, Douglas Pollard wrote: On 12/13/2010 09:59 PM, Douglas Pollard wrote: On 12/13/2010 09:47 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 21:40 -0500, Douglas Pollard wrote: On 12/13/2010 09:31 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 21:28 -0500, Douglas Pollard wrote: On 12/13/2010 08:25 PM, Mike Holstein wrote: On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Douglas Pollard dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net wrote: I am using Ubuntu studio 10.04. I get sound for a while after start up but then loose it. I typed pavucontrol into the terminal. The volume control panel comes up and I get an error message ( connection failed: connection terminated). The little speaker thingies in the Volume control are showing and X as if muted. If I restart I have sound for a while but then loose it. If I play VLC media player sound stops and starts and beaks up and after a while it shuts down altogether. I would appreciate any help with this. Thanks Doug -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users let us know what hardware your using... are you using JACK? is this an internal card? or a USB device? you can run lspci in a terminal and paste that here, or lsusb i have a VIA sound device that just dies sometimes... what kernel are you using? uname -a have you tried other kernels? -- MH http://www.myspace.com/mikeholstein http://opensourcemusician.libsyn.com/ I have an AMD 64 dual chip motherboard that I installed about 3 years ago . The computer is an HPpavilian 720 I am trying to think how to see what kernal is in here. I downloaded Ubuntu Studio 10.04 and installed it. I see if I can figure out what the kernel is. Doug Open a terminal emulation and run uname -a ;) No I have not. I just installed Ubuntu Studio 10.04 about two months ago but have not had consistent sound since then. Doug On an Ubuntu forum on German, regarding to codec Via VT1708 someone solved this by installing http://packages.ubuntu.com/de/lucid/linux-backports-modules-alsa-lucid-generic To know what kernel you are running run uname -r or better uname -a Here is the kernal output from the terminal Doug Linux ubuntu
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no worries, i saw you had joined, but i was out... you'll see a tab at the top that says '#ubuntustudio thats the support channel... On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Douglas Pollard dougp...@verizon.netwrote: On 12/14/2010 06:28 PM, Mike Holstein wrote: if you get a minute, come to the IRC channel and look for me - holstein http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntustudiouio=d4 maybe we can trouble-shoot it a little more in real-time On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Douglas Pollard dougp...@verizon.netwrote: On 12/14/2010 02:26 PM, Mike Holstein wrote: Might not be there... every bios can be different... what is the computer again?... might find some info about the bios options googling around a bit... On Dec 14, 2010 2:07 PM, Douglas Pollard dougp...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/14/2010 01:51 PM, Mike Holstein wrote: Your onboard audio device ... try disabling it in the bios... On Dec 14, 2010 12:50 PM, Douglas Pollard dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/14/2010 12:24 PM, Mike Holstein wrote: Try disabling the via device in the bios On Dec 14, 2010 11:51 AM, Douglas Pollard dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/13/2010 10:38 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 22:30 -0500, Douglas Pollard wrote: On 12/13/2010 09:59 PM, Douglas Pollard wrote: On 12/13/2010 09:47 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 21:40 -0500, Douglas Pollard wrote: On 12/13/2010 09:31 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 21:28 -0500, Douglas Pollard wrote: On 12/13/2010 08:25 PM, Mike Holstein wrote: On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Douglas Pollard dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net mailto:dougp...@verizon.net wrote: I am using Ubuntu studio 10.04. I get sound for a while after start up but then loose it. I typed pavucontrol into the terminal. The volume control panel comes up and I get an error message ( connection failed: connection terminated). The little speaker thingies in the Volume control are showing and X as if muted. If I restart I have sound for a while but then loose it. If I play VLC media player sound stops and starts and beaks up and after a while it shuts down altogether. I would appreciate any help with this. Thanks Doug -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users let us know what hardware your using... are you using JACK? is this an internal card? or a USB device? you can run lspci in a terminal and paste that here, or lsusb i have a VIA sound device that just dies sometimes... what kernel are you using? uname -a have you tried other kernels? -- MH http://www.myspace.com/mikeholstein http://opensourcemusician.libsyn.com/ I have an AMD 64 dual chip motherboard that I installed about 3 years ago . The computer is an HPpavilian 720 I am trying to think how to see what kernal is in here. I downloaded Ubuntu Studio 10.04 and installed it. I see if I can figure out what the kernel is. Doug Open a terminal emulation and run uname -a ;) No I have not. I just installed Ubuntu Studio 10.04 about two months ago but have not had consistent sound since then. Doug On an Ubuntu forum on German, regarding to codec Via VT1708 someone solved this by installing http://packages.ubuntu.com/de/lucid/linux-backports-modules-alsa-lucid-generic To know what kernel you are running run uname -r or better uname -a Here is the kernal output from the terminal Doug Linux ubuntu 2.6.32-27-preempt #49-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Thu Dec 2 03:21:34 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux I just played some music with VLC and it played well for about 5 minuets and then i got th message that the connection failed. that sounds like a hardware problem? Doug :( linux-backports-modules-alsa-lucid-generic I did ignore the word 'generic' for this package. It seems to be able to solve your issue for a default, resp. upgraded default kernel. Hm? Perhaps you should get a low cost PCI card, that anyway would be better for audio, but your card. I e.g. bought a TerraTec EWX 24/96 PCI card at Ebay for less, but 30,- EUR. Compared to professional studio equipment the bass sounds muddy, compared to a crappy on-board device as
