Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
On 02/19/2011 07:46 AM, Narendra Diwate wrote: Hi On topic, I have Ubuntu 10.04.1 iso images with me and feel it a complete waste of limited bandwidth to again download the whole iso. Is there a way that i can just download the difference and regenerate/recreate/modify the iso to 10.04.2. I have Ubuntu 10.04 installed on my laptop which got updated to 10.04.1 All you need to do is apt-get dist-upgrade and it will goto 10.04.2 No need to download the full ISO again -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
I think there is no need to run dist-upgrade if you are on 10.04.1 You will get a normal update which will change your version number to 10.04.2 Maintenance release is a release with all the updates since LTS release applied. This should be used in fresh installations to avoid downloading huge amount of updates. On 19 February 2011 15:14, Manish Sinha m...@manishsinha.net wrote: On 02/19/2011 07:46 AM, Narendra Diwate wrote: Hi On topic, I have Ubuntu 10.04.1 iso images with me and feel it a complete waste of limited bandwidth to again download the whole iso. Is there a way that i can just download the difference and regenerate/recreate/modify the iso to 10.04.2. I have Ubuntu 10.04 installed on my laptop which got updated to 10.04.1 All you need to do is apt-get dist-upgrade and it will goto 10.04.2 No need to download the full ISO again -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- Rohit R Third Year Int MSc Student Dept of Physics IIT Kharagpur -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
Although not appropriate but Linux Mint has better option as far as the updates are concerned. It categorizes the updates which are core and necessary. You can always discard the updates you don't need (which are numbered as 4,5 and 6) and come lower down; indeed most of them are not even required. If it is critical update, it is labeled as 1. Thats one of the main reasons why I shifted to Mint. Truly, it is what Ubuntu should actually aim for. On Saturday 19 February 2011 03:24 PM, Rohit R wrote: I think there is no need to run dist-upgrade if you are on 10.04.1 You will get a normal update which will change your version number to 10.04.2 Maintenance release is a release with all the updates since LTS release applied. This should be used in fresh installations to avoid downloading huge amount of updates. On 19 February 2011 15:14, Manish Sinha m...@manishsinha.net mailto:m...@manishsinha.net wrote: On 02/19/2011 07:46 AM, Narendra Diwate wrote: Hi On topic, I have Ubuntu 10.04.1 iso images with me and feel it a complete waste of limited bandwidth to again download the whole iso. Is there a way that i can just download the difference and regenerate/recreate/modify the iso to 10.04.2. I have Ubuntu 10.04 installed on my laptop which got updated to 10.04.1 All you need to do is apt-get dist-upgrade and it will goto 10.04.2 No need to download the full ISO again -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- Rohit R Third Year Int MSc Student Dept of Physics IIT Kharagpur -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 03:36:46PM +0530, stereotactic wrote: Although not appropriate but Linux Mint has better option as far as the updates are concerned. It categorizes the updates which are core and necessary. You can always discard the updates you don't need (which are numbered as 4,5 and 6) and come lower down; indeed most of them are not even required. If it is critical update, it is labeled as 1. Even Ubuntu and Debian for that matter categorise updates in to 'security', 'recommended' and 'miscellaneous'. You see different update notifier icon in the system notification area for security and other updates. May be Mint has further categorised them in to 6 levels. -- Regards, Nitesh Mistry | www.mistrynitesh.com PGP key id: A6FEF696 | 'geekosopher' on freenode irc pgpmqFpfm283h.pgp Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
On 02/19/2011 03:36 PM, stereotactic wrote: Although not appropriate but Linux Mint has better option as far as the updates are concerned. It categorizes the updates which are core and necessary. You can always discard the updates you don't need (which are numbered as 4,5 and 6) and come lower down; indeed most of them are not even required. If it is critical update, it is labeled as 1. Event Ubuntu has it categorized as I can see from Update Manager. Right now I can see * Important SecurityUpdates * Other PPA updates * Other Updates -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 03:24:21PM +0530, Rohit R wrote: I think there is no need to run dist-upgrade if you are on 10.04.1 You will get a normal update which will change your version number to 10.04.2 'normal update' is what 'apt-get dist-upgrade' does, but on command line instead of gui. -- Regards, Nitesh Mistry | www.mistrynitesh.com PGP key id: A6FEF696 | 'geekosopher' on freenode irc pgpf6RwF4Q9VW.pgp Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
Good thing because I haven't really used Ubuntu in a long time and rather prefer Mint (for the newbies) instead. On Saturday 19 February 2011 03:47 PM, Manish Sinha wrote: On 02/19/2011 03:36 PM, stereotactic wrote: Although not appropriate but Linux Mint has better option as far as the updates are concerned. It categorizes the updates which are core and necessary. You can always discard the updates you don't need (which are numbered as 4,5 and 6) and come lower down; indeed most of them are not even required. If it is critical update, it is labeled as 1. Event Ubuntu has it categorized as I can see from Update Manager. Right now I can see * Important SecurityUpdates * Other PPA updates * Other Updates -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
I meant that apt-get upgrade (just upgrading packages) is enough and that apt-get dist-upgrade is not necessary. I dont think maintenance releases show up in dist-upgrade. On 19 February 2011 16:00, Nitesh Mistry mail...@mistrynitesh.net wrote: On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 03:24:21PM +0530, Rohit R wrote: I think there is no need to run dist-upgrade if you are on 10.04.1 You will get a normal update which will change your version number to 10.04.2 'normal update' is what 'apt-get dist-upgrade' does, but on command line instead of gui. -- Regards, Nitesh Mistry | www.mistrynitesh.com PGP key id: A6FEF696 | 'geekosopher' on freenode irc -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- Rohit R Third Year Int MSc Student Dept of Physics IIT Kharagpur -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
If you run apt-get dist-upgrade on 10.04 machine, 10.10 will be listed and not the maintenance version. The machine will go to 10.04.2 on just running apt-get upgrade As I said earlier, the maintenance release is just for fresh installs to avoid downloading the updates provided after the LTS release. On 19 February 2011 15:24, Rohit R rohitsilentkil...@gmail.com wrote: I think there is no need to run dist-upgrade if you are on 10.04.1 You will get a normal update which will change your version number to 10.04.2 Maintenance release is a release with all the updates since LTS release applied. This should be used in fresh installations to avoid downloading huge amount of updates. On 19 February 2011 15:14, Manish Sinha m...@manishsinha.net wrote: On 02/19/2011 07:46 AM, Narendra Diwate wrote: Hi On topic, I have Ubuntu 10.04.1 iso images with me and feel it a complete waste of limited bandwidth to again download the whole iso. Is there a way that i can just download the difference and regenerate/recreate/modify the iso to 10.04.2. I have Ubuntu 10.04 installed on my laptop which got updated to 10.04.1 All you need to do is apt-get dist-upgrade and it will goto 10.04.2 No need to download the full ISO again -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- Rohit R Third Year Int MSc Student Dept of Physics IIT Kharagpur -- Rohit R Third Year Int MSc Student Dept of Physics IIT Kharagpur -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
Not true!!! As long as you don't have maverick sources in your sources.list, it won't upgrade to maverick if you use dist-upgrade On 19 Feb 2011 16:40, Rohit R rohitsilentkil...@gmail.com wrote: -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
Ohh sorry, my bad. On 19 February 2011 16:42, Rohan Garg rohang...@ubuntu.com wrote: Not true!!! As long as you don't have maverick sources in your sources.list, it won't upgrade to maverick if you use dist-upgrade On 19 Feb 2011 16:40, Rohit R rohitsilentkil...@gmail.com wrote: -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- Rohit R Third Year Int MSc Student Dept of Physics IIT Kharagpur -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
On 02/19/2011 04:39 PM, Rohit R wrote: If you run apt-get dist-upgrade on 10.04 machine, 10.10 will be listed and not the maintenance version. The machine will go to 10.04.2 on just running apt-get upgrade Even I know that, but when I do dist-upgrade I got 10.04.1 from 10.04 -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
Right, and now if you update your sources, and dist upgrade, you will have 10.04.2 On 19 Feb 2011 17:07, Manish Sinha m...@manishsinha.net wrote: On 02/19/2011 04:39 PM, Rohit R wrote: If you run apt-get dist-upgrade on 10.04 machine, 10.10 will be listed and not the maintenance version. The machine will go to 10.04.2 on just running apt-get upgrade Even I know that, but when I do dist-upgrade I got 10.04.1 from 10.04 -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Manish Sinha m...@manishsinha.net wrote: On 02/19/2011 07:46 AM, Narendra Diwate wrote: Hi On topic, I have Ubuntu 10.04.1 iso images with me and feel it a complete waste of limited bandwidth to again download the whole iso. Is there a way that i can just download the difference and regenerate/recreate/modify the iso to 10.04.2. I have Ubuntu 10.04 installed on my laptop which got updated to 10.04.1 All you need to do is apt-get dist-upgrade and it will goto 10.04.2. No need to download the full ISO again Thanks. But I don't have Ubuntu Installed. Just have the iso that i wanted to update to 10.04.2 without needing to download the whole iso. i think zsysnc should do it. I too have shifted to Linux Mint Debian edition, primarily for its Rolling Release. Updates too are easier as i now don't look at levels 3 and higher. I just focus on level 1 2. Also installed debdelta which looks like it will reduce my updates even further. -- Regards Narendra Diwate -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 05:06:56PM +0530, Manish Sinha wrote: On 02/19/2011 04:39 PM, Rohit R wrote: If you run apt-get dist-upgrade on 10.04 machine, 10.10 will be listed and not the maintenance version. The machine will go to 10.04.2 on just running apt-get upgrade Even I know that, but when I do dist-upgrade I got 10.04.1 from 10.04 Compare it with Safe upgrade and Full Upgrade in Synaptic (or used to be; don't remember since I haven't used it recently). Safe Upgrade = apt-get upgrade : if upgrading any package causes removal of another package, such package is held back. Full Upgrade = apt-get dist-upgrade : all packages are upgraded, even if upgrading any package caused another package to be removed. In both cases, the system is on the same release (10.04). It does not upgrade to 10.10. I daily do 'apt-get dist-upgrade' on my lucid machine, and I can confirm it is still lucid and not maverick. :) Just writing out of my own experience. Trying to dig out some material on it (referred to it ages ago). -- Regards, Nitesh Mistry | www.mistrynitesh.com PGP key id: A6FEF696 | 'geekosopher' on freenode irc pgpeKM1TPPbYW.pgp Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
AFAIK debdelta does not work on ubuntu currently, although If it did, i'd say it would work for all packages, not for a certain set of packages. On 19 Feb 2011 23:26, stereotactic maill...@postinbox.com wrote: How is debdelta installed for Ubuntu? Is it system wide or for specific packages alone? On Saturday 19 February 2011 05:20 PM, Narendra Diwate wrote: On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Manish Sinha m...@manishsinha.net mailto:m...@manishsinha.net wrote: On 02/19/2011 07:46 AM, Narendra Diwate wrote: Hi On topic, I have Ubuntu 10.04.1 iso images with me and feel it a complete waste of limited bandwidth to again download the whole iso. Is there a way that i can just download the difference and regenerate/recreate/modify the iso to 10.04.2. I have Ubuntu 10.04 installed on my laptop which got updated to 10.04.1 All you need to do is apt-get dist-upgrade and it will goto 10.04.2. No need to download the full ISO again Thanks. But I don't have Ubuntu Installed. Just have the iso that i wanted to update to 10.04.2 without needing to download the whole iso. i think zsysnc should do it. I too have shifted to Linux Mint Debian edition, primarily for its Rolling Release. Updates too are easier as i now don't look at levels 3 and higher. I just focus on level 1 2. Also installed debdelta which looks like it will reduce my updates even further. -- Regards Narendra Diwate -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
[ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
Dear Ubuntu 10.04 LTS users, Kate Stewart announced a few minutes ago, February 18th, the second maintenance release of the Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) operating system, which incorporates numerous security fixes and updates. The Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS release brings to its dedicated users a lot of security updates and corrections, all with a single goal: to keep Ubuntu 10.04 LTS a stable and reliable Linux distribution! More here: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-10-04-2-LTS-Is-Available-for-Download-184993.shtml -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
On 02/18/2011 04:46 PM, Marius Nestor wrote: Dear Ubuntu 10.04 LTS users, Kate Stewart announced a few minutes ago, February 18th, the second maintenance release of the Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) operating system, which incorporates numerous security fixes and updates. The Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS release brings to its dedicated users a lot of security updates and corrections, all with a single goal: to keep Ubuntu 10.04 LTS a stable and reliable Linux distribution! More here: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-10-04-2-LTS-Is-Available-for-Download-184993.shtml I am not sure if this constitutes spam. I can see 7 mails in my mailbox from this person and the person never comes back for discussions. Just keeps posting self-articles written. Doesn't this constitute blog-spam? Secondly, the link provided does not link to the actual announcement. Bad idea. Original announcement: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2011-February/000141.html Opinions invited. -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Manish Sinha m...@manishsinha.net wrote: On 02/18/2011 04:46 PM, Marius Nestor wrote: More here: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-10-04-2-LTS-Is-Available-for-Download-184993.shtml I am not sure if this constitutes spam. I can see 7 mails in my mailbox from this person and the person never comes back for discussions. Just keeps posting self-articles written. Doesn't this constitute blog-spam? Secondly, the link provided does not link to the actual announcement. Bad idea. Original announcement: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2011-February/000141.html Understanding the issue you raised i followed Marius Nestors trail to some of his details. here http://news.softpedia.com/editors/browse/marius-nestor His average article seems to be 3-4 a week - not all about Ubuntu but almost all about Linux. Its clear that he is posting new articles about Ubuntu Linux which per se is list acceptable which also means that he is conscious about what article goes to which list :-) , unless he has a way of filtering articles to certain lists. Yes this list isn't a replacement RSS feed - but as of now I am personally ok receiving these ubuntu specific mails. I agree with you (manish) on 2 points though 1, Not providing a link to the original is not a good idea - in fact that would be the minimum we accept 2. technically his is not a blog - however it would not be good to have bloggers post their articles - without ever participating in other discussions. The list ain't a free advetisement boards so if the real Marius nestor were to stand up and say hi, here i am and i am not a bot it would be a good step. ram -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 09:00:25PM +0530, Manish Sinha wrote: I can see 7 mails in my mailbox from this person and the person never comes back for discussions. Just keeps posting self-articles written. Doesn't this constitute blog-spam? Secondly, the link provided does not link to the actual announcement. Bad idea. Original announcement: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2011-February/000141.html Opinions invited. As long as it is 'on topic' I don't mind. ;-) -- Regards, Nitesh Mistry | www.mistrynitesh.com PGP key id: A6FEF696 | 'geekosopher' on freenode irc pgpmxGXTf8AqF.pgp Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
Hi people, Yes, I am not a bot, and I am deeply sorry to consider my Ubuntu articles spam. I thought it will be nice to inform users about what's new in the Ubuntu world. I will not post here anymore, if you guys don't want to see Softpedia articles anymore. Best regards, Marius Nestor On 02/18/2011 05:47 PM, Ramnarayan.K wrote: On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Manish Sinha m...@manishsinha.net mailto:m...@manishsinha.net wrote: On 02/18/2011 04:46 PM, Marius Nestor wrote: More here: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-10-04-2-LTS-Is-Available-for-Download-184993.shtml I am not sure if this constitutes spam. I can see 7 mails in my mailbox from this person and the person never comes back for discussions. Just keeps posting self-articles written. Doesn't this constitute blog-spam? Secondly, the link provided does not link to the actual announcement. Bad idea. Original announcement: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2011-February/000141.html Understanding the issue you raised i followed Marius Nestors trail to some of his details. here http://news.softpedia.com/editors/browse/marius-nestor His average article seems to be 3-4 a week - not all about Ubuntu but almost all about Linux. Its clear that he is posting new articles about Ubuntu Linux which per se is list acceptable which also means that he is conscious about what article goes to which list :-) , unless he has a way of filtering articles to certain lists. Yes this list isn't a replacement RSS feed - but as of now I am personally ok receiving these ubuntu specific mails. I agree with you (manish) on 2 points though 1, Not providing a link to the original is not a good idea - in fact that would be the minimum we accept 2. technically his is not a blog - however it would not be good to have bloggers post their articles - without ever participating in other discussions. The list ain't a free advetisement boards so if the real Marius nestor were to stand up and say hi, here i am and i am not a bot it would be a good step. ram -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Marius Nestor mar...@softpedia.com wrote: Hi people, Yes, I am not a bot, and I am deeply sorry to consider my Ubuntu articles spam. I thought it will be nice to inform users about what's new in the Ubuntu world. I will not post here anymore, if you guys don't want to see Softpedia articles anymore. Now we know :-) and as Nitesh and I have said that since they are on topic, Ubuntu that is, its fine by us. What manish was trying to ask ( i think) is are you for real , now we know you are and we also look forward to your contributing to discussions on Ubuntu and maybe how you use Ubuntu to enhance your photography ram -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 9:47 PM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.comwrote: and as Nitesh and I have said that since they are on topic, Ubuntu that is, its fine by us. Truthfully to add, i am not a great one at the Ubuntu only mode and am a bit of streching the envelope wallah :-) ram -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
On 02/18/2011 09:21 PM, Marius Nestor wrote: Hi people, Yes, I am not a bot, and I am deeply sorry to consider my Ubuntu articles spam. I thought it will be nice to inform users about what's new in the Ubuntu world. I don't have any issues as such. I did not know if it was real of just sent via some RSS feeds. Now that you came and replied, we know that you are for real. I did not call you a bot. I will not post here anymore, if you guys don't want to see Softpedia articles anymore. As I told that is not an issue. Just make sure to include the original source. Increases creditability. -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
Hi On topic, I have Ubuntu 10.04.1 iso images with me and feel it a complete waste of limited bandwidth to again download the whole iso. Is there a way that i can just download the difference and regenerate/recreate/modify the iso to 10.04.2. May be delta patch or torrent or any other way that i don't know of? Any ideas appreciated. Also on topic, why isn't ubuntu moving to delta deb (i think that is what it is called) where to update instead of downloading the whole package only the difference is downloaded, the package is recreated using the old one and the update done? I think Fedora uses it. Is this also possible with Debian and how? -- Regards Narendra Diwate -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 7:46 AM, Narendra Diwate narendra.diw...@gmail.comwrote: Also on topic, why isn't ubuntu moving to delta deb (i think that is what it is called) where to update instead of downloading the whole package only the difference is downloaded, the package is recreated using the old one and the update done? I think Fedora uses it. Is this also possible with Debian and how? isn't that what Linux Mint's rolling distribution is about - continuous package upgrades. ram -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 7:46 AM, Narendra Diwate narendra.diw...@gmail.com wrote: Also on topic, why isn't ubuntu moving to delta deb (i think that is what it is called) where to update instead of downloading the whole package only the difference is downloaded, the package is recreated using the old one and the update done? I think Fedora uses it. Is this also possible with Debian and how? isn't that what Linux Mint's rolling distribution is about - continuous package upgrades. Rolling distro is where, there is no distro release as such but packages are continually updated and so you can remain fully updated by doing small incremental updates regularly. LinuxMint is not rolling, but the Debian Version (LMDE) is a Rolling Release and that is what i now have on my system. A delta patch is just for each package, where you either have an older version in your /Var cache or the package is installed in your system. Then just the changed bits/files are downloaded and the whole package is reconstructed and then installed instead of having to downloading th whole package. E.g Openoffice base, instead of downloading the whole package, just the changed files are downloaded and using the files already installed in the system, the whole package is rebuilt/reconstructed. This brings down the amount of data that needs to be downloaded drastically. Fedora has already implemented a similar system since i think Fedora 11. There it is called delta RPM. -- Regards Narendra Diwate -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
To answer the original question in regards to the ISO, I'd say have a look at zsync. Wrt to delta debs the issue seems to be that the implementation will create a lot of diff between launchpad and debian, which would be difficult to maintain, hence we have no delta debs in ubuntu right now. On 19 Feb 2011 12:19, Narendra Diwate narendra.diw...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 7:46 AM, Narendra Diwate narendra.diw...@gmail.com wrote: Also on topic, why isn't ubuntu moving to delta deb (i think that is what it is called) where to update instead of downloading the whole package only the difference is downloaded, the package is recreated using the old one and the update done? I think Fedora uses it. Is this also possible with Debian and how? isn't that what Linux Mint's rolling distribution is about - continuous package upgrades. Rolling distro is where, there is no distro release as such but packages are continually updated and so you can remain fully updated by doing small incremental updates regularly. LinuxMint is not rolling, but the Debian Version (LMDE) is a Rolling Release and that is what i now have on my system. A delta patch is just for each package, where you either have an older version in your /Var cache or the package is installed in your system. Then just the changed bits/files are downloaded and the whole package is reconstructed and then installed instead of having to downloading th whole package. E.g Openoffice base, instead of downloading the whole package, just the changed files are downloaded and using the files already installed in the system, the whole package is rebuilt/reconstructed. This brings down the amount of data that needs to be downloaded drastically. Fedora has already implemented a similar system since i think Fedora 11. There it is called delta RPM. -- Regards Narendra Diwate -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
