Re: [ubuntu-in] GIS on UBuntu

2009-07-20 Thread Sanjay Bhangar
Hi Ram,

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi

 Wanted to install a complete set of GIS packages on Ubuntu

 Found help here

 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGIS

 and here

 http://www.perrygeo.net/wordpress/?p=10


 however was wondering if there was an Ubuntu GIS distro out there somewhere
 (or may be a Linux GIS distro) which would be more complete and i won't need
 to worry about missing out something.


Dont think there is a 'GIS distro', though it might be cool if you package
one after installing all the stuff :-D

What exactly do you need  to do ?
Here's some stuff I could think of that's probably useful:
sudo apt-get install qgis qgis-plugin-grass grass grass-dev gdal-bin
python-gdal postgresql-8.3-postgis

If you want to do web stuff, I would  recommend the GeoDjango frame-work .

I have some experience with this. Feel free to ping.

-Sanjay




 Any ideas ?

 or should i just go the whole hog and install all the recommended stuff.

 ram



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Re: [ubuntu-in] GIS on UBuntu

2009-07-20 Thread Sanjay Bhangar
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi
 Thanks

 On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Sanjay Bhangar 
 sanjaybhan...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dont think there is a 'GIS distro', though it might be cool if you package
 one after installing all the stuff :-D

 What exactly do you need  to do ?
 Here's some stuff I could think of that's probably useful:
 sudo apt-get install qgis qgis-plugin-grass grass grass-dev gdal-bin
 python-gdal postgresql-8.3-postgis

 If you want to do web stuff, I would  recommend the GeoDjango frame-work .

 will install all that

 we have some bit of archived material, raw and well finished and we wanted
 to be able to see them, manipulate them etc


What format is this material in? Try QuantumGIS (qgis), and you should be
able to import and export shape files (.shp) . If by any chance your
material is in autocad files, (.dwg), there are tools to convert this into
.shp files, and then import them into a GPS tool. You can also try TangoGPS,
which I haven't used myself.


 add on new data, layers,

 like the new maps that NASA has just released.

 import GPS points directly onto a layer etc

 am a GIS novice, most of the work was done by others and on closed systems
 but i want to make sure as much works on Ubuntu.


I'm really having a good time working with GeoDjango and OpenLayers to do
web-based stuff like that. If you have some developer skills, its not so
hard. Else, I think QGis is probably what you're looking for - explore
TangoGPS, and also i think JOSM is a good user-friendly java-based tool to
work with your data with Open Street Maps ..


 am not sure of what all but right now want to install everything because
 once i get home won't have access to broadband to install


If you want to work with gps devices, apt-get gpsd and gpsbabel as well.

If you do have a lot of data that you want to work with, setting things up
can be a bit hairy and complicated with different projections of data and
other GIS stuff .. feel free to ping me, but am not really an expert with
that stuff..

take care,
Sanjay




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Re: [ubuntu-in] GIS on UBuntu

2009-07-20 Thread Ramnarayan.K
Thanks

. shp mostly

will look at all the stuff, and i guess only when we start working will we
know what from which

regards
ram

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Sanjay Bhangar sanjaybhan...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi
 Thanks

 On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Sanjay Bhangar 
 sanjaybhan...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dont think there is a 'GIS distro', though it might be cool if you
 package one after installing all the stuff :-D

 What exactly do you need  to do ?
 Here's some stuff I could think of that's probably useful:
 sudo apt-get install qgis qgis-plugin-grass grass grass-dev gdal-bin
 python-gdal postgresql-8.3-postgis

 If you want to do web stuff, I would  recommend the GeoDjango frame-work
 .

  will install all that

 we have some bit of archived material, raw and well finished and we wanted
 to be able to see them, manipulate them etc


 What format is this material in? Try QuantumGIS (qgis), and you should be
 able to import and export shape files (.shp) . If by any chance your
 material is in autocad files, (.dwg), there are tools to convert this into
 .shp files, and then import them into a GPS tool. You can also try TangoGPS,
 which I haven't used myself.


 add on new data, layers,

 like the new maps that NASA has just released.

 import GPS points directly onto a layer etc

 am a GIS novice, most of the work was done by others and on closed systems
 but i want to make sure as much works on Ubuntu.


 I'm really having a good time working with GeoDjango and OpenLayers to do
 web-based stuff like that. If you have some developer skills, its not so
 hard. Else, I think QGis is probably what you're looking for - explore
 TangoGPS, and also i think JOSM is a good user-friendly java-based tool to
 work with your data with Open Street Maps ..


 am not sure of what all but right now want to install everything because
 once i get home won't have access to broadband to install


 If you want to work with gps devices, apt-get gpsd and gpsbabel as well.

 If you do have a lot of data that you want to work with, setting things up
 can be a bit hairy and complicated with different projections of data and
 other GIS stuff .. feel free to ping me, but am not really an expert with
 that stuff..

 take care,
 Sanjay




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Re: [ubuntu-in] GIS on UBuntu

2009-07-20 Thread Sanjay Bhangar
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks

 . shp mostly


Ah! If you have stuff in .shp already, thats fun! Are the .shp files
geo-referenced? What kind of data is it?

Sorry for asking all these questions:) - Nice datasets are always good --
I'd be happy to get you started with GeoDjango / web-stuff if you want to go
in that direction - its actually really simple to get the data visualized on
the web and have simple tools to add annotations and edit polygons / points.

Best of luck,
Sanjay




 will look at all the stuff, and i guess only when we start working will we
 know what from which

 regards
 ram


 On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Sanjay Bhangar 
 sanjaybhan...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi
 Thanks

 On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Sanjay Bhangar sanjaybhan...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Dont think there is a 'GIS distro', though it might be cool if you
 package one after installing all the stuff :-D

 What exactly do you need  to do ?
 Here's some stuff I could think of that's probably useful:
 sudo apt-get install qgis qgis-plugin-grass grass grass-dev gdal-bin
 python-gdal postgresql-8.3-postgis

 If you want to do web stuff, I would  recommend the GeoDjango frame-work
 .

  will install all that

 we have some bit of archived material, raw and well finished and we
 wanted to be able to see them, manipulate them etc


 What format is this material in? Try QuantumGIS (qgis), and you should be
 able to import and export shape files (.shp) . If by any chance your
 material is in autocad files, (.dwg), there are tools to convert this into
 .shp files, and then import them into a GPS tool. You can also try TangoGPS,
 which I haven't used myself.


 add on new data, layers,

 like the new maps that NASA has just released.

 import GPS points directly onto a layer etc

 am a GIS novice, most of the work was done by others and on closed
 systems but i want to make sure as much works on Ubuntu.


 I'm really having a good time working with GeoDjango and OpenLayers to do
 web-based stuff like that. If you have some developer skills, its not so
 hard. Else, I think QGis is probably what you're looking for - explore
 TangoGPS, and also i think JOSM is a good user-friendly java-based tool to
 work with your data with Open Street Maps ..


 am not sure of what all but right now want to install everything because
 once i get home won't have access to broadband to install


 If you want to work with gps devices, apt-get gpsd and gpsbabel as well.

 If you do have a lot of data that you want to work with, setting things up
 can be a bit hairy and complicated with different projections of data and
 other GIS stuff .. feel free to ping me, but am not really an expert with
 that stuff..

 take care,
 Sanjay




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Re: [ubuntu-in] GIS on UBuntu

2009-07-20 Thread Ramnarayan.K
Just some more GIS stuff on Linux / Ubuntu

see fwded message below and notes / comments below that.

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From: XXX
Date: Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: hi - regarding GIS on Ubuntu



Yes I mentioned to you OpenJump. The windows install of this S/W is a breeze
but you may have to dirty your hands a bit for the linux install. Just have
a look at :

http://www.openjump.org/wiki/show/Linux

Ubuntu GIS repositories are QGIS or Quanmtum GIS front end + GRASS. This
would make things pretty solid for a full GIS workhorse. It would also mean
additional learning. But if your requirements are a bit simpler you might
like to have a look at open jump.

I recommened that you can first do a quick peek at the windows version and
see if it suits what you wanna do. You can then battle it out with the linux
bit. The windows n\bit is also opensource so you dont sin. If you have shape
files and wish to very very quickly try some unions etc, after you start
open jump, right click on the working folder , choose Load  Data sets , set
format to ESRI shape file and bring your shape files in. Next use tools menu
to do overlay ( intersect) or if you have a line layer, generate --
buffers from the tools menu. Do some spatial / attribute queries. You can
read the tutorial later to get a better hang of things.

Link to windows installer: http://sourceforge.net/projects/jump-pilot/files/

There is a PDF Tutorial too which you might like to browse before after
dinner.

I think jump GIS looks less intimidating for the general public and if you
have to train some people in using stuff, it might be less intimidating. It
has the most commonly used GIS analysis functions like overlay ( Union /
Intersect) and buffer generation built in. It can edit, do spatial and
attribute queries etc. So pretty decent.



openjump is available on the Ubuntu repos you may nede to add the following
deb http://lk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty main restricted
deb-src http://lk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty main restricted

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