Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Allow installing apps from ubuntu touch app store without creating an account
--- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --- Von: Jelmer Prins as...@carakas.be Datum: 31.03.2015 12:25:15 An: zed123 zed lin...@secure-mail.biz Betreff: Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Allow installing apps from ubuntu touch app store without creating an account I think the pro’s of making everyone subscribe outweigh the cons If it would be possible to install apps from the store without an account you would need to add a lot of extra functionality to handle those cases. It also would be harder to debug these things as you would need an extra emulator/phone for this situation or constantly log in and out of your own account. greetz JustCarakas On 31 Mar 2015, at 12:14, zed123 zed lin...@secure-mail.biz wrote: --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --- Von: Martin Albisetti argent...@gmail.com Datum: 31.03.2015 02:43:40 An: zed123 zed lin...@secure-mail.biz Betreff: Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Allow installing apps from ubuntu touch app store without creating an account On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 6:08 AM, zed123 zed lin...@secure-mail.biz wrote: i heard that it's not possible to download apps from the ubuntu touch app store without having an ubuntu one account. I think you should change this: Firefox OS allows downloading apps from its marketplace without an account, so i don't see why this shouldn't also be possible with ubuntu touch. While the usual tradition of linux distributions is to have repositories accessible to anyone, why do I need to have a ubuntu one account in order to download apps on the ubuntu store? While ubuntu has until now been very strong into providing open alternatives to mainline products, e.g. from microsoft or apple, this requirement is a serious threat to the open philosophy. I can't see any technical difficulty into not having accounts on the server side, and I am very worried about this. From this thread: Why do I need a ubuntu one account to download apps http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2265106 A lot of good points have already been made in that forum thread. You need an account for several things: - App purchases - In-app purchases - Recovering previously installed apps (free or paid) - Remote installing from a web-based store - Persisting data in the cloud (U1DB) - Accepting per-user licenses (free or paid) - Notifying users (via email) of malicious apps they have installed that were discovered after they were in the store for a while - Mitigating DDoS download attacks Your argument is that you may not want any of those things, and if you don't, you should be able to download an app without authenticating. I agree with that from a pure technical point of view. However, the default case for the majority of the users and developers will be to want these features so thats what we focused on providing. We could prioritize this work in the future, but it would involve solving at least a few important issues: - Developers will need to decide for each app if they want to make their app available, a decision many developers unfamiliar with open source won't understand I don't understand this? Wouldn't it be just a choice of whether the app is free or paid? - The code everywhere has to be changed to support authenticating optionally, in some cases, for some users, for some apps Good point, but i suppose mozilla has a way to cicumvent this problem. - If the user doesn't have an account, can he browse all apps? How do we make sure they understand why sometimes we ask the to create an account/log in, sometimes we don't? If a user has no account he can browse everything, and for paid ones he'll have to create an account. Simply tell the user that an account is necessary for paying or whatever, i think they would understand. - Developers want to target platforms they can make money off of. If the process of your first purchase involves creating an account at the same time as providing your payment details, you are chopping off a significant portion of purchases for that developer as most people will desist when faced with more processes I don't think that this would be the case. If you shop online you also have to create accounts and provide payment details, and no one complains. Plus you have to register only once and then never again, so i don't think this would hurt sales. And you could still ask user to create account when turning on the device the first time and tell them they might need it to purchase apps, but then make it optional. - We as a platform want to make money off of the store to pay for infrastructure and development, same problem as above applies - Apps might want to persist your data, for example, a save game. Its a terrible time to have to create an account. Should be up to the user if he wants his data in the cloud or not imho. All in all, its been shown again and again that the right time
Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Allow installing apps from ubuntu touch app store without creating an account
As i said, talk to mozilla about this*. They have an appstore that works without registration for free apps and they probably wouldn't have done their appstore this way if it was too hard to do: * https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-b2g news://news.mozilla.org/mozilla.dev.b2g http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.b2g/topics --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --- Von: Jelmer Prins as...@carakas.be Datum: 31.03.2015 12:25:15 An: zed123 zed lin...@secure-mail.biz Betreff: Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Allow installing apps from ubuntu touch app store without creating an account I think the pro’s of making everyone subscribe outweigh the cons If it would be possible to install apps from the store without an account you would need to add a lot of extra functionality to handle those cases. It also would be harder to debug these things as you would need an extra emulator/phone for this situation or constantly log in and out of your own account. greetz JustCarakas On 31 Mar 2015, at 12:14, zed123 zed lin...@secure-mail.biz wrote: --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --- Von: Martin Albisetti argent...@gmail.com Datum: 31.03.2015 02:43:40 An: zed123 zed lin...@secure-mail.biz Betreff: Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Allow installing apps from ubuntu touch app store without creating an account On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 6:08 AM, zed123 zed lin...@secure-mail.biz wrote: i heard that it's not possible to download apps from the ubuntu touch app store without having an ubuntu one account. I think you should change this: Firefox OS allows downloading apps from its marketplace without an account, so i don't see why this shouldn't also be possible with ubuntu touch. While the usual tradition of linux distributions is to have repositories accessible to anyone, why do I need to have a ubuntu one account in order to download apps on the ubuntu store? While ubuntu has until now been very strong into providing open alternatives to mainline products, e.g. from microsoft or apple, this requirement is a serious threat to the open philosophy. I can't see any technical difficulty into not having accounts on the server side, and I am very worried about this. From this thread: Why do I need a ubuntu one account to download apps http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2265106 A lot of good points have already been made in that forum thread. You need an account for several things: - App purchases - In-app purchases - Recovering previously installed apps (free or paid) - Remote installing from a web-based store - Persisting data in the cloud (U1DB) - Accepting per-user licenses (free or paid) - Notifying users (via email) of malicious apps they have installed that were discovered after they were in the store for a while - Mitigating DDoS download attacks Your argument is that you may not want any of those things, and if you don't, you should be able to download an app without authenticating. I agree with that from a pure technical point of view. However, the default case for the majority of the users and developers will be to want these features so thats what we focused on providing. We could prioritize this work in the future, but it would involve solving at least a few important issues: - Developers will need to decide for each app if they want to make their app available, a decision many developers unfamiliar with open source won't understand I don't understand this? Wouldn't it be just a choice of whether the app is free or paid? - The code everywhere has to be changed to support authenticating optionally, in some cases, for some users, for some apps Good point, but i suppose mozilla has a way to cicumvent this problem. - If the user doesn't have an account, can he browse all apps? How do we make sure they understand why sometimes we ask the to create an account/log in, sometimes we don't? If a user has no account he can browse everything, and for paid ones he'll have to create an account. Simply tell the user that an account is necessary for paying or whatever, i think they would understand. - Developers want to target platforms they can make money off of. If the process of your first purchase involves creating an account at the same time as providing your payment details, you are chopping off a significant portion of purchases for that developer as most people will desist when faced with more processes I don't think that this would be the case. If you shop online you also have to create accounts and provide payment details, and no one complains. Plus you have to register only once and then never again, so i don't think this would hurt sales. And you could still ask user to create account when turning on the device the first time and tell them they might need it to purchase apps, but then make it optional. - We as a platform want to make money off of the store to
Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Allow installing apps from ubuntu touch app store without creating an account
hi, Am Mittwoch, den 01.04.2015, 11:31 +0200 schrieb zed123 zed: As i said, talk to mozilla about this*. They have an appstore that works without registration for free apps and they probably wouldn't have done their appstore this way if it was too hard to do: ... with their appstore ... thats the point ... two completely different implementations for two completely different OSes with a completely different system architecture ... how do you know how hard is in ubuntu by judging how FFOS or jolla (or IOS or android) do it? it was most likely easy for them because they designed it from teh ground up with this use case in mind, while other stores are not. This is like claiming implementing a feature in IE or safari is easy because it was easy to implement it in firefox ... ciao oli -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ethernet through USB
hi, Am Mittwoch, den 01.04.2015, 13:09 +0200 schrieb Matthias Apitz: Oliver, It *seems* that if the rndis0 interface is activated, i.e. if the device is in tethering mode, that the Ubuntu app store is not reachable, the HTTPS connection is established, but not useable by the device; the screen is white and some red line is jumping left/right and at the end giving up; netstat shows: $ netstat -an | fgrep EST tcp0 36 10.42.0.1:2210.42.0.86:14092 ESTABLISHED tcp0 0 10.49.30.101:37780 91.189.88.37:443 ESTABLISHED any idea, what I could check? I see no TCPDUMP in the device, i.e. can not proof if or not packages are exachanged with 91.189.88.37 port 443. hmm, the tethering shouldnt change anything, the default route on the phone should still point to the GSM or wlan interface (whichever you have active), the rndis device should simply route packages from your PC directly to either of the devices (and back)... when i test here on ubuntu my PC as well as my phone can both be online just fine ... ciao oli -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ethernet through USB
El día Wednesday, April 01, 2015 a las 02:13:26PM +0200, Oliver Grawert escribió: hmm, the tethering shouldnt change anything, the default route on the phone should still point to the GSM or wlan interface (whichever you have active), the rndis device should simply route packages from your PC directly to either of the devices (and back)... when i test here on ubuntu my PC as well as my phone can both be online just fine ... hi, I will nail it down; any chance to get a TCPDUMP tool for the device? TELNET is missing too, but there is netcat and openssl... matthias -- Matthias Apitz, g...@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-170-4527211 Wenn der Mensch von den Umständen gebildet wird, so muß man die Umstände menschlich bilden. Si el hombre es formado por las circunstancias entonces es necesario formar humanamente las circunstancias, Karl Marx in Die heilige Familie / La sagrada familia (MEW 2, 138) -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-phone] normal MUA app
El día Wednesday, April 01, 2015 a las 12:30:31PM +0100, James Tait escribió: On 1 April 2015 at 12:12, Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote: I have my mailbox at http://imaps.1blu.de/ and need a mail app which can read with IMAPS and send with SMTP/SSL. Any recomendation? Is the MUA mutt (www.mutt.org) available for ubuntu-phone, even as console (read terminal app) utility? mutt can do IMAPS and SMTP/SSL. I would personally recommend Dekko https://appstore.bhdouglass.com/app/dekko.dekkoproject. I use it with my own mail server which uses IMAPS (actually, usually IMAP+STARTTLS, but IMAPS works as well) and SMTP+STARTTLS (haven’t tested with SMTP/SSL). Tested. Thanks, it does what I was looking for. Have to figure out, how to disable this Sent from my iPone' like line :-) matthias -- Matthias Apitz, g...@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-170-4527211 Wenn der Mensch von den Umständen gebildet wird, so muß man die Umstände menschlich bilden. Si el hombre es formado por las circunstancias entonces es necesario formar humanamente las circunstancias, Karl Marx in Die heilige Familie / La sagrada familia (MEW 2, 138) -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ethernet through USB
El día Tuesday, March 31, 2015 a las 03:01:12PM +0200, Oliver Grawert escribió: hi, Am Dienstag, den 31.03.2015, 14:39 +0200 schrieb Matthias Apitz: but this does not help; when I remove the file and enable rndis with the above command from the shell (connected via Wifi SSH), some minutes later the interface has an IP addr. ah, that sounds more like the custom job simply starts to early ... try replacing mtp-server in the custom upstart job with i.e. indicator-network ... (you can find all the session jobs under /usr/share/upstart/sessions/ btw ... in case you want to experiment) Oliver, It *seems* that if the rndis0 interface is activated, i.e. if the device is in tethering mode, that the Ubuntu app store is not reachable, the HTTPS connection is established, but not useable by the device; the screen is white and some red line is jumping left/right and at the end giving up; netstat shows: $ netstat -an | fgrep EST tcp0 36 10.42.0.1:2210.42.0.86:14092 ESTABLISHED tcp0 0 10.49.30.101:37780 91.189.88.37:443 ESTABLISHED any idea, what I could check? I see no TCPDUMP in the device, i.e. can not proof if or not packages are exachanged with 91.189.88.37 port 443. Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz, g...@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-170-4527211 Wenn der Mensch von den Umständen gebildet wird, so muß man die Umstände menschlich bilden. Si el hombre es formado por las circunstancias entonces es necesario formar humanamente las circunstancias, Karl Marx in Die heilige Familie / La sagrada familia (MEW 2, 138) -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-phone] normal MUA app
On 1 April 2015 at 12:12, Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote: I have my mailbox at http://imaps.1blu.de/ and need a mail app which can read with IMAPS and send with SMTP/SSL. Any recomendation? Is the MUA mutt (www.mutt.org) available for ubuntu-phone, even as console (read terminal app) utility? mutt can do IMAPS and SMTP/SSL. I would personally recommend Dekko https://appstore.bhdouglass.com/app/dekko.dekkoproject. I use it with my own mail server which uses IMAPS (actually, usually IMAP+STARTTLS, but IMAPS works as well) and SMTP+STARTTLS (haven’t tested with SMTP/SSL). Cheers, JT -- James Tait, BSc. | https://launchpad.net/~jamestait/ Software Engineer, Canonical Online Services Ubuntu - Linux for human beings | www.ubuntu.com -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-phone] sd card
Hi im going to order a sd card for my ubuntu phone today whats the maximum size card this will take please.. also i see vivid is releasing around april 23rd will my official ubuntu phone update at the same time roughly to that version and is it possible to upgrade to that now and is there any benefits?.. mine is still on stock and not in RW mode?. one thing that might fix is i have no nottifications from telegram on my 14.10 stock install but on my vivid nexus 7 they work im thinking it could be the same if i changed to vivid and if i did want to flash to that will i still get OTA updates to that version of vivid i assume i can just run a adb command to flash the BQ also another problem i seem to have picked up since i swapped my sims round is i cant seem to get 3g at all, ive tried swapping sims back and ive tried restoring the phone but cant seem to get any 3g if i upgraded this could fix this maybe? -- Regards, Wayne Ward 07810242823 www.wayneward.co.uk i...@wayneward.co.uk -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-phone] sd card
On 1 April 2015 at 14:30, Wayne Ward i...@wayneward.co.uk wrote: Hi im going to order a sd card for my ubuntu phone today whats the maximum size card this will take please.. Officially 32GB, but I know some people have had success with larger capacity devices. also i see vivid is releasing around april 23rd will my official ubuntu phone update at the same time roughly to that version Around then, if not then. and is it possible to upgrade to that now and is there any benefits? It is, but I wouldn't as it's not as stable as the current RTM branch. also another problem i seem to have picked up since i swapped my sims round is i cant seem to get 3g at all, ive tried swapping sims back and ive tried restoring the phone but cant seem to get any 3g if i upgraded this could fix this maybe? There's a number of connectivity issues which I believe are hoped to be fixed in the next RTM update which is due next week. Cheers, -- Alan Pope Community Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-phone] sd card
ill get a 64 and 32 which ever doesnt work can go in the rasperry 2 for the ubuntu snappy setup :) ill wait till the official update and let the phone do its stuff im thinking the connections issues are bearable but nice to know there is some fixes im really looking forward to OTA im so happy with the phone and the nexus setup and seeing this project grow is superb thank you for a swift reply alan Wayne :) On 01/04/15 14:41, Alan Pope wrote: On 1 April 2015 at 14:30, Wayne Ward i...@wayneward.co.uk wrote: Hi im going to order a sd card for my ubuntu phone today whats the maximum size card this will take please.. Officially 32GB, but I know some people have had success with larger capacity devices. also i see vivid is releasing around april 23rd will my official ubuntu phone update at the same time roughly to that version Around then, if not then. and is it possible to upgrade to that now and is there any benefits? It is, but I wouldn't as it's not as stable as the current RTM branch. also another problem i seem to have picked up since i swapped my sims round is i cant seem to get 3g at all, ive tried swapping sims back and ive tried restoring the phone but cant seem to get any 3g if i upgraded this could fix this maybe? There's a number of connectivity issues which I believe are hoped to be fixed in the next RTM update which is due next week. Cheers, -- Regards, Wayne Ward 07810242823 www.wayneward.co.uk i...@wayneward.co.uk -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-phone] Introdcuing myself , and an answer to: normal MUA app about message signatures in dekko
Hello, Just joined this list, I'm an happy owner of a bq Aquaris 4.5 Ubuntu Edition. Saw on the archive: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg11770.html Tested. Thanks, it does what I was looking for. Have to figure out, how to disable this Sent from my iPone' like line :-) Recreating your default identity in your account settings should do the trick; see: https://bugs.launchpad.net/dekko/+bug/1435791 bye, rob -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-phone] mobile network: 2G/3G option loses connection after idling
Hello everyone, This concerns the bq device, which I'm using all the time now, and for the most part of the day I'm connected to the cellular network. (the available protocol options for wifi don't work for me yet). So when I have the 2g/3g option enabled, and I leave the phone on the side for a while (locked etc. etc.), when I pick it up, it is not connected. Apparently it shuts-down the connection to save itself some battery or pointless kB consumption, but it doesn't go back up. On the other hand when I have the 2G-only option enabled, it works slowly, but it works all the time. I filled a bug report here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuphone/+bug/1436411 ... But I was surprised I didn't see any other users experiencing the same problem. Anyone has a nice solution that I haven't thought of yet? Pana -- http://www.ubuntu.com/ - linux for human beings... with sufficient CLI skills. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Allow installing apps from ubuntu touch app store without creating an account
From what i read the main problem about this is that there are/will be apps that require an account(for in app purchases/persistent data). So i would say, simply require an account for apps that require one, and allow downloading without account for apps that don't need one. I think this should be quite easy to do, but that's just my guess on this. --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --- Von: Oliver Grawert o...@ubuntu.com Datum: 01.04.2015 14:23:09 An: ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Betreff: Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Allow installing apps from ubuntu touch app store without creating an account hi, Am Mittwoch, den 01.04.2015, 11:31 +0200 schrieb zed123 zed: As i said, talk to mozilla about this*. They have an appstore that works without registration for free apps and they probably wouldn't have done their appstore this way if it was too hard to do: ... with their appstore ... thats the point ... two completely different implementations for two completely different OSes with a completely different system architecture ... how do you know how hard is in ubuntu by judging how FFOS or jolla (or IOS or android) do it? it was most likely easy for them because they designed it from teh ground up with this use case in mind, while other stores are not. This is like claiming implementing a feature in IE or safari is easy because it was easy to implement it in firefox ... ciao oli -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp __ powered by Perfect-Privacy.com / Secure-Mail.biz - anonymous and secure internet. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Allow installing apps from ubuntu touch app store without creating an account
Hi, As a developer I find it quite helpful to be able to distinguish between the number of downloads and number of users who downloaded my app. The latter obviously requires some sort of account. Moreover, I believe that some people might refrain from downloading applications which require an account if they can download others who do not require one. Personally, I never downloaded any app from the Ubuntu (desktop) Software Center which required me to create an account before I had to read the EULA for the account on my Ubuntu Phone. For these reasons, I think it makes sense to aks for an account for application downloads. Cheers, Niklas 2015-04-01 19:04 GMT+02:00 zed123 zed lin...@secure-mail.biz: From what i read the main problem about this is that there are/will be apps that require an account(for in app purchases/persistent data). So i would say, simply require an account for apps that require one, and allow downloading without account for apps that don't need one. I think this should be quite easy to do, but that's just my guess on this. --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --- Von: Oliver Grawert o...@ubuntu.com Datum: 01.04.2015 14:23:09 An: ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Betreff: Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Allow installing apps from ubuntu touch app store without creating an account hi, Am Mittwoch, den 01.04.2015, 11:31 +0200 schrieb zed123 zed: As i said, talk to mozilla about this*. They have an appstore that works without registration for free apps and they probably wouldn't have done their appstore this way if it was too hard to do: ... with their appstore ... thats the point ... two completely different implementations for two completely different OSes with a completely different system architecture ... how do you know how hard is in ubuntu by judging how FFOS or jolla (or IOS or android) do it? it was most likely easy for them because they designed it from teh ground up with this use case in mind, while other stores are not. This is like claiming implementing a feature in IE or safari is easy because it was easy to implement it in firefox ... ciao oli -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp __ powered by Perfect-Privacy.com / Secure-Mail.biz - anonymous and secure internet. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Allow installing apps from ubuntu touch app store without creating an account
On Wed, 2015-04-01 at 19:04 +0200, zed123 zed wrote: From what i read the main problem about this is that there are/will be apps that require an account(for in app purchases/persistent data). So i would say, simply require an account for apps that require one, and allow downloading without account for apps that don't need one. I think this should be quite easy to do, but that's just my guess on this. Feel free to write a competing app store that doesn't require accounts. You will quickly find that writing an app store is not so easy. As Martin already stated, having apps that may have purchasing, or which might want to synchronize data with Ubuntu One, are not the only reasons for requiring an account. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 01.04.15
Hello everyone, First of all: it seems that our CI Train spreadsheet is in April Fools mode today and once again it is frequently reverting itself with every operation causing Fatal Errors. There's not much we can do about it besides waiting though. Our only hope is in the spreadsheet replacement which is still in development, sadly. Both the ofono and ubuntu-push fixes are ready in ubuntu-rtm silos as we speak, which means they will be landing in the archives soon. Those two were one of the most important fixes for the OTA-3 milestone. A few other fixes are ready to land as well - with a new oxide-qt and a media-hub fix in the list. On the vivid side: today QA signed off media-hub-3. We landed it to the archives and built a new image. Please be sure to keep an eye out for any new media-related issues starting from image #158. The list: * What landed in our images: http://people.canonical.com/~lzemczak/landing-team/ #259 14.09/krillin - http://people.canonical.com/~lzemczak/landing-team/ubuntu-rtm/259.commitlog #158 vivid/mako - http://people.canonical.com/~lzemczak/landing-team/ubuntu/vivid/158.commitlog #157 vivid/mako - http://people.canonical.com/~lzemczak/landing-team/ubuntu/vivid/157.commitlog * Smoke-testing results: ubuntu : http://ci.ubuntu.com/smokeng/vivid/touch/ ubuntu-rtm : http://ci.ubuntu.com/smokeng/utopic/touch_stable/ #158 vivid/mako - http://ci.ubuntu.com/smokeng/vivid/touch/mako/158:20150401.1:20150210/12560/ * Some useful documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LandingTeam https://wiki.ubuntu.com/citrain/FAQ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/citrain/RTMLandingApproaches https://wiki.ubuntu.com/citrain/LandingProcess https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LandingTeam/Smoketesting http://developer.ubuntu.com/start/ubuntu-for-devices/image-channels/ http://people.canonical.com/~platform/citrain_dashboard/ http://people.canonical.com/~lzemczak/issues/ https://trello.com/b/AE3swczu/silo-testing * Blocking issues (Ubuntu RTM): ** Network indicator lists the non-exist AP (timeout for the AP to be removed is too big) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1425172 ** location is inaccurate https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1426307 * Blocking issues (Ubuntu): ** web audio, pulse runs at 6% and screen will not blank on idle https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1391230 = Merge requests present ** Alarms are not set on manta devices https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1398945 ** [system settings] Count resets to 3 tries after 3 fails at sim unlock https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1415850 = Merge requests present ** Wifi list is empty https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1416424 ** can't add credit card if bank inserts a manual confirmation page https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1421421 = Merge requests present ** Network indicator lists the non-exist AP (timeout for the AP to be removed is too big) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1425172 ** Vivid image 121: Gps tag is permanently turn off on krillin when the custom tarball is installed https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1425625 ** location is inaccurate https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1426307 ** unity8 sometimes hangs on boot https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1421009 = Merge requests present * Known issues: ** After connection drops, mobile-data takes ~5m to re-connect https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1418077 * Issues not impacting user experience: None. Best regards, -- Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak lukasz.zemc...@canonical.com www.canonical.com -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-phone] presentation of Ubuntu phone
Hello, I'm asked to give a presentation and demonstration of the Ubuntu phone to a tech audiance. What I would like to have is: - running (i.e manipulating, driving) the phone by hand - having the phone connected to Wifi or USB - having the screen of the phone in a window of a X-server or Windows-PC (i.e. X11 or RDP) to present it with a video beamer Any ideas, how to get the MIR display to a 2nd external screen? Thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz, g...@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-170-4527211 Wenn der Mensch von den Umständen gebildet wird, so muß man die Umstände menschlich bilden. Si el hombre es formado por las circunstancias entonces es necesario formar humanamente las circunstancias, Karl Marx in Die heilige Familie / La sagrada familia (MEW 2, 138) -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-phone] normal MUA app
El día Wednesday, April 01, 2015 a las 02:40:58PM +0200, Matthias Apitz escribió: El día Wednesday, April 01, 2015 a las 12:30:31PM +0100, James Tait escribió: On 1 April 2015 at 12:12, Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote: I have my mailbox at http://imaps.1blu.de/ and need a mail app which can read with IMAPS and send with SMTP/SSL. Any recomendation? Is the MUA mutt (www.mutt.org) available for ubuntu-phone, even as console (read terminal app) utility? mutt can do IMAPS and SMTP/SSL. I would personally recommend Dekko https://appstore.bhdouglass.com/app/dekko.dekkoproject. I use it with my own mail server which uses IMAPS (actually, usually IMAP+STARTTLS, but IMAPS works as well) and SMTP+STARTTLS (haven’t tested with SMTP/SSL). Tested. Thanks, it does what I was looking for. Have to figure out, how to disable this Sent from my iPone' like line :-) Sorry, this was to fast. It does work in the sense of IMAP and SMTP; but it is nearly unuseable: - it allows read and/or delete of mail via IMAP - it allows to submit mail via SMTP - it does top posting on reply - I found no way on reply to delete and or otherwise edit the mail without removing any single char by DEL key stroke - I found no way to switch off this guessing of words when I type and using at the end of typing a word which I never wanted to send - I could not disable the footer about Sent from Dekko ... Can I have mutt+vi to read/write mails in the terminal app? Thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz, g...@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-170-4527211 Wenn der Mensch von den Umständen gebildet wird, so muß man die Umstände menschlich bilden. Si el hombre es formado por las circunstancias entonces es necesario formar humanamente las circunstancias, Karl Marx in Die heilige Familie / La sagrada familia (MEW 2, 138) -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-phone] Sync
For some reason calendar sync stopped working for google so I tried adding another account and I get the same on my official ubuntu phone and on the nexus 7, contacts still sync Anybody else got same problem?.. I've only updated dekko on both devices today Wayne :) -- Sent using Dekko from my Ubuntu device -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Sync
On 1 April 2015 at 19:53, wayne Ward i...@wayneward.co.uk wrote: For some reason calendar sync stopped working for google so I tried adding another account and I get the same on my official ubuntu phone and on the nexus 7, contacts still sync Anybody else got same problem?.. I've only updated dekko on both devices today Probably https://bugs.launchpad.net/sync-monitor/+bug/1438662 -- Alan Pope Community Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ethernet through USB
El día Wednesday, April 01, 2015 a las 02:13:26PM +0200, Oliver Grawert escribió: hmm, the tethering shouldnt change anything, the default route on the phone should still point to the GSM or wlan interface (whichever you have active), the rndis device should simply route packages from your PC directly to either of the devices (and back)... I can reproduce the problem with the following procedure: - device is only connected to GSM - no USB cable is attached - double check if Wifi is disabled - check if access to ubuntu strore works fine (works for me) - enable rndis by running in terminal app $ android-gadget-service enable rndis - check if you still can access the store, I can not matthias -- Matthias Apitz, g...@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-170-4527211 Wenn der Mensch von den Umständen gebildet wird, so muß man die Umstände menschlich bilden. Si el hombre es formado por las circunstancias entonces es necesario formar humanamente las circunstancias, Karl Marx in Die heilige Familie / La sagrada familia (MEW 2, 138) -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
