[Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu touch and QT quick controls re-engineered

[Thibaut Dedreuil_monet]

Dear all,

While browsing the web this week end i read and watched the following blog 
post(1) discussing about the new QT quick controls developped as a techincal 
preview on QT5.6.

Following their benchmark they are experiencing a reduced memory footprint and 
a x10 speed  increase in terms of loading compared to the normal QTquick 
control. 
I was wondering if some of the ubuntu phone projects (unity8 or sdk) would make 
use of these new controls in the near future to leverage some of the speed 
boost that those new controls would bring.

Thanks,

(1) 
http://blog.qt.io/blog/2015/11/23/qt-quick-controls-re-engineered-status-update/



-- 
Thibaut

-- 
Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net
Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Not working features in stable OS

[Krzysztof Tataradziński]

"Are those not working OS features equivalent to a car braking system? I
think not :) What are you really upset about? "
@Ionut Negru - I just want to point that there are many basic features
(like said before - share files via bluetooth, photos with proper
resolution and not blurred, radio FM (I read somewhere before that there is
even app for radio FM created by someone from community, but it will not
work until sth in OS will be repaired), etc.) not covered by Ubuntu OS,
while they are working on convergence. That last one is also really
important and Ubuntu need something new and fresh to get attention of wider
audience - but after short while many people could be disappointed.
Don't get me wrong - I love that system, it is on my daily phone and I'm
working really hard in my free time (mainly translating and filling bugs)
to get it better - but I think there is some problem with features
prioritization.

2015-11-29 19:28 GMT+01:00 Brendan Donegan :

> Hi Kryzystof,
>
> This appears to be working, at least for YouTube (at least for me).
> However this is with the rc-proposed branch so it could possibly have been
> fixed between OTA8 and this latest image. Have you filed a bug for the
> issue? It's usually a good idea to do this as if it was already raised it
> will get duplicated to the original bug and you will know when it is fixed,
> or if it wasn't raised then it will be brought to the attention of the
> development team - it might be that this bug doesn't appear with a clean
> install but only on an upgrade, or maybe at some point you made a change on
> your phone that exposed the bug.
>

I think that I saw somewhere bug with YouTube, but I can't find it now.
I filled some basic (in my opinion) bugs/features or mark them as they also
affect me
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtmultimedia-opensource-src/+bug/1420896
https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1473668
https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1473936
https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1471666
https://bugs.launchpad.net/camera-app/+bug/1473773
https://bugs.launchpad.net/camera-app/+bug/1468341
and some others.

Best regards,
Krzysztof Tataradziński
https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156


> Thanks,
>
> On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 at 20:59 Krzysztof Tataradziński 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Question about placing unfinished/not working features in OS. If we
>> look in example at Youtube or Soundcloud Scope, there is a login
>> option, but it doesn't working (for Youtube there is also option to
>> enable it in System Settings -> Accounts). So why that buttons with
>> not working login options are there? Maybe better would be to
>> delete/hide that buttons until there are repaired? Why OTA after OTA
>> we seeing them? Is it only bothers me viewing things that are not
>> working (since few OTAs) or that bother anyone else?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Krzysztof Tataradziński
>> https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156
>>
>> --
>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
>> Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net
>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
>> More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
>>
>
-- 
Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net
Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] GPS not working on Nexus 7

[Matthew Paul Thomas]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Ashwin Sewambar wrote on 29/11/15 00:15:
> ...
> 
> I'm quite new to this, so I just want to ask a question before I 
> file this bug. I logged in to launchpad.net using my Ubuntu one 
> account and just used the search version to see if there weren't 
> any similar bugs filed, which doesn't seem to be the case. E.g. 
> This bug: 
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/location-service/+bug/1443595
>
> 
would be considered something different, right?


If you aren't sure, especially if you're new to bug reporting, report
a separate bug. It's better to report a duplicate, than to muddle an
existing report with what turns out to be a different problem. (You
can always write something like "Bug X seems similar" in your report.)

> Could someone just double check that for me? Because if that's the 
> case then I'll know how to do this by myself in the future. Also, 
> could someone tell me if there are any logfiles I could attach
> with the bug, or lead me to the help files that describe them?
> 
> ...

The terminal command "ubuntu-bug" will automatically attach the
relevant log files for the package you specify.


- -- 
mpt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux)

iEYEARECAAYFAlZbOcYACgkQ6PUxNfU6ecrSygCgyJH+q4EC3sWo46guD6kbHGkR
HvkAnReIqoV37Akm5JFhHNnZYKf1Qwvd
=M6eh
-END PGP SIGNATURE-

-- 
Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net
Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] GPS - does it work, how is it supposed to work?

[Thomas Voß]

On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 9:59 PM, Thomas Voß  wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 6:04 AM,   wrote:
>> On 2015-11-27 23:05 , Thomas Voß wrote:
>>> On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 3:50 PM,   wrote:
 FWIW I took care to install OTA8 and re-try before filing my bugs, and I
 haven't seen a big improvement.

>>> ack, I will keep updating this thread to keep you posted.
>>>
>>>
>> I take it back.  I just tested by switching the phone to airplane mode
>> and leaving it on the roof for ten minutes.  When I checked back it had
>> a fix.  I guess something in OTA-8 did indeed fix it, and the last time
>> I tried I just didn't give it enough of a chance, or perhaps I was
>> moving too much.
>>
>
> That's good to know, thanks for the update.
>
>> I also tried the same thing last night only to discover that it got a
>> fix within a few seconds.  That seemed suspicious, I don't believe you
>> could ever download the ephemeris so quickly, so it seemed like it had
>> been cached from somewhere.  But I'm just guessing.  It really would be
>> good if the system exposed what it knows about the current status of the
>> ephemeris somehow so I can check.  I.e. when a request was made and when
>> it was successful.
>>
>
> The chipset and its driver certainly cache ephimeris information. We
> have test cases to force cold-starts, though.
> Invoking them requires command-line access to your phone:
>
>   > sudo ubuntu-location-serviced-cli --bus system --test
>
> Runs 3 trials to estimate the mean time to first fix from cold start.
> (and yes: 3 is low, but a tradeoff in terms of time :)).
> If you want to see what the test is doing, simply run:
>
>   > sudo GLOG_v=200 GLOG_logtostderr=1 ubuntu-location-serviced-cli
> --bus system --test
>
> Other than that, I think surfacing more status information to the user
> via our UI would help quite a lot.
>

Just executed the test (which I do for every landing):

  Mean time to first fix in [ms]: 219656

With the following three fixes:

  * Position(lat: Coordinate(51.4447 deg), lon: Coordinate(7.21089
deg), alt: Coordinate(102.6 m), hor.acc.: 7 m, ver.acc.: n/a)
  * Position(lat: Coordinate(51.4448 deg), lon: Coordinate(7.21105
deg), alt: Coordinate(137 m), hor.acc.: 51 m, ver.acc.: n/a)
  * Position(lat: Coordinate(51.4448 deg), lon: Coordinate(7.21083
deg), alt: Coordinate(105.8 m), hor.acc.: 23.6 m, ver.acc.: n/a)

One remaining note: You might want to remove all ephimeris data prior
to running the test. That will give you insight into when the data
is downloaded (obviously, only with a data connection):

  * sudo rm /android/data/misc/EPO.DAT

HTH,

  Thomas

>> It seems like more logging in the syslog would be a good idea - record
>> when GPS and location services are switched on and off, when ephemeris
>> is requested by the GPS unit, log whether or not an actual network
>> request is made, log when it succeeds, and log when a fix is established
>> or disappears.  Should I submit a bug for that?
>>
>
> Not required for "raw" logging. If you are happy to do some config
> file editing, you can easily switch
> on verbose logging by following
> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/location-service/15.04/view/head:/doc/debugging.md#L52.
> You only need to adjust /etc/init/ubuntu-location-service.override to
> gain quite some insight into what the service is doing.
>
> Enabling verbose logging at runtime without the need to edit
> configuration files is in-flight, too:
>
>   https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/location-service/runtime-log-switch
>
> We are aiming to land for OTA-9 right now.
>
>> Also, so the chipset doesn't expose its own satellite ephemeris status.
>> Do you know if that's universal with GPS chips?  I don't know much about
>> it, but I assume this means the GPS chip has its own RAM, in which case
>> it might not be too difficult for a chip designer to provide raw RAM
>> access if they had a reason to do so.  It might be possible to encourage
>> some phone manufacturers (e.g. Fairphone) to choose a more
>> hacker-friendly option, if there is one.
>>
>>
>
> So to clarify: The chipset *might* expose that information somehow, it
> is not available to us via the chipset driver, though.
> We ultimately rely on Android's GPS HAL to access the GPS subsystem
> (see 
> http://androidxref.com/4.4.4_r1/xref/hardware/libhardware/include/hardware/gps.h).
> While there is a debug hook available, it is highly vendor specific
> and we do not use it (for the simple reason that we aim to keep higher
> levels of the stack free of
> vendor-specific code). If I could choose, I would prefer the chipset
> to expose debugging information via sysfs entries @Fairphone et al.
>
> Cheers,
>
>   Thomas
>
>> --
>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
>> Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net
>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
>> More help   : 

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Not working features in stable OS

[Ionut Negru]

Are those not working OS features equivalent to a car braking system? I
think not :) What are you really upset about?

On Sun, Nov 29, 2015, 15:09 Krzysztof Tataradziński 
wrote:

> 2015-11-28 22:04 GMT+01:00 Gareth France :
>
>> On 28/11/15 20:42, Krzysztof Tataradziński wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Question about placing unfinished/not working features in OS. If we
>>> look in example at Youtube or Soundcloud Scope, there is a login
>>> option, but it doesn't working (for Youtube there is also option to
>>> enable it in System Settings -> Accounts). So why that buttons with
>>> not working login options are there? Maybe better would be to
>>> delete/hide that buttons until there are repaired? Why OTA after OTA
>>> we seeing them? Is it only bothers me viewing things that are not
>>> working (since few OTAs) or that bother anyone else?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Krzysztof Tataradziński
>>> https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156
>>>
>>> If it bothers you to see rough edges then why purchase a phone with an
>> operating system which is currently most famous for not being finished? We
>> all accepted before purchase that we would be witnessing the development of
>> the finished product.
>>
>>
> Sorry, but I think You miss the point. In my opinion there is problem with
> providing basic features that can be reached by hardware. Lets see at radio
> FM - doesn't work. 4K recording in MX4 (146 days - aging of the bug
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1471666 )
> that was advertised when selling phone. Also proper resolution of the
> photos - that is also long-aged bug not repaired yet.
> Suppose that Canonical are making cars. There will develop high-end
> electric car. They will told us that for now car can reach 100 km/h in 4.5
> seconds, has range 560 km on one charge and some other cool features. But
> you ask about breaks - why they are not working? You probably will hear: we
> working on that, don't have hard deadline for that, but we must admit that
> in next software update we improve battery charging and implement feature
> that allow car to fly for 30 seconds. But you are thinking - why I need car
> that can charge fast and fly, if it can't even brake? That is analogical
> situation to convergence - we don't have some basic features worked in
> every other phones, but ignoring them, Canonical is implementing some other
> - of course that convergence feature is great and killing other mobile OSes
> - but I don't care of that, if I can't even use radio FM, send files via
> Bluetooth or download file that phone can't open without proper app.
> I think that Canonical is missing something - there are many basic
> features that are not working and should focus on them. Ubuntu has one of
> the most active community in IT world, but I think there is problem with
> using its resources and communication with it.
> I also understand that Canonical has limited resources, but if there is a
> problem with that - ask community what to.
> My proposal is to create crowdfunding campaign and hire someone to work
> with basic bugs/features. If that campaign would appear, it seems to me
> that people will be more than happy, knowing that their money will go to
> provide the basic functionality of their phones.
>
>> --
>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
>> Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net
>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
>> More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
>>
> --
> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
> Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net
> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
> More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
>
-- 
Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net
Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Not working features in stable OS

[Brendan Donegan]

Hi Kryzystof,

This appears to be working, at least for YouTube (at least for me). However
this is with the rc-proposed branch so it could possibly have been fixed
between OTA8 and this latest image. Have you filed a bug for the issue?
It's usually a good idea to do this as if it was already raised it will get
duplicated to the original bug and you will know when it is fixed, or if it
wasn't raised then it will be brought to the attention of the development
team - it might be that this bug doesn't appear with a clean install but
only on an upgrade, or maybe at some point you made a change on your phone
that exposed the bug.

Thanks,

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 at 20:59 Krzysztof Tataradziński 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Question about placing unfinished/not working features in OS. If we
> look in example at Youtube or Soundcloud Scope, there is a login
> option, but it doesn't working (for Youtube there is also option to
> enable it in System Settings -> Accounts). So why that buttons with
> not working login options are there? Maybe better would be to
> delete/hide that buttons until there are repaired? Why OTA after OTA
> we seeing them? Is it only bothers me viewing things that are not
> working (since few OTAs) or that bother anyone else?
>
> Best regards,
> Krzysztof Tataradziński
> https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156
>
> --
> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
> Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net
> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
> More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
>
-- 
Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net
Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Meizu MX4 (Arale r6), impossible to use the phone, serious problem using touch screen

[Marco Graziotti]

Hi Peter,

I sent back my phone some days ago to use the Meizu warranty service. 
Now I'm waiting for a response (my phone is never fell down).


As wrote by Ajay, in Italy you can contact the Meizu customer care from 
this url: http://assistenza.meizu.it I think this service works just for 
Italy (but I don't know).
Also, in Italy there's the official Meizu Mart store at this link: 
https://www.meizumart.it/it/ where you can find some contacts.


For first, before you send back the phone to Meizu, open a ticket here: 
http://assistenza.meizu.it


Regards,

Marco


Il 29/11/2015 21:59, "@j"@y ha scritto:
This for sure is a hardware problem and probably with the digitiser. I 
have already dispatched my phone to Meizu for the same problem


email : i...@meizumart.it

the address for Italy is as below :

company: Le.ali srl

street: via provinciale pianura 20b

zip code: 80078

city: Pozzuoli (NAPLES)

phone number: +390818666045

country: Italy

As stated by Meizu, it does not guarantee that this fault will be 
surely repaired under warranty,  they have to verify the phone..
A Return Merchandise authorisation form will have to be filled up, 
which can be obtained from the company.


I do not know the fate of my handset yet, hoping for the best.
Regards
Ajay

On Monday 30 November 2015 12:19 AM, a5a15447 wrote:
I finally managed to succeed in installing stock android on my Ubuntu 
Meizu and...
the keypad is a hardware failure rather than software (doesn't work 
on android either). I will be returning the unit to Meizu. though 
where to send it is a mystery at the moment.

If anyone has an address for returns, I would be obliged.
peter richards


*From: *"a5a15447" 
*To: *"Marco Graziotti" 
*Cc: *"ubuntu-phone" 
*Sent: *Monday, November 16, 2015 9:43:34 PM
*Subject: *Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Meizu MX4 (Arale r6), impossible to use 
the phone, serious problem using touch screen


that's EXACTLY where I am at too. At this point it's almost bricked.
Does ubuntu have a solution?
peter richards


*From: *"Marco Graziotti" 
*To: *"John McAleely" 
*Cc: *"ubuntu-phone" 
*Sent: *Monday, November 16, 2015 3:55:42 PM
*Subject: *Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Meizu MX4 (Arale r6), impossible to use 
the phone, serious problem using touch screen



Hi John,

thank you for your answer.

I saw that if I remove the protection shield from the screen (plastic 
shield installed on the screen) this problem it's partially solved. 
Infact, now I have a problem with the bottom of touch surface, I 
can't press anything in this part.
I decided to reset the phone, but I'm not able to press the 
"continue" button from the display. Now my phone is totally unusable.


I searched on internet for a solution, and it seems that many MX4 are 
affected from this problem. Some MX4 launch apps randomly by 
themselves, like mine. This happened after I removed the protection 
shield (I made a video of this issue, similar to this one: 
https://youtu.be/azNK63maBxM ).


Now I have a problem like the one showed in this video: 
https://youtu.be/T4LJhkyk-oU the bottom of MX4 display doesn't work, 
but in my case the "home" button works, but not the screen bottom.


Right now I'm stuck at the first step of restore procedure (where you 
can choose a language), and i can't go forward because the bottom of 
the display doesn't work. Now my phone is totally unusable.


What can I do?

Thank you,

Marco Graziotti



Il 16/11/2015 23:09, John McAleely ha scritto:

Ubuntu does not update silently.

Assuming you are on the default settings, there has been no OS
update for some weeks (The next is due soon). It will, as always,
require your action before installing.

Application updates are similar, but more frequent. Without
knowing what applications you have, it is impossible to know when
the last one was. Again, however, your action is needed.

So it seems any problem you have is unlikely to be the result of
software updates.

There is a factory reset option in the settings if you wish to
reset. 'Wiping the cache' is an android-ism.

J


On 16 November 2015 at 21:41, Marco Graziotti
 wrote:


Thank you guys for your answers,

but I think I was not able to explain the problem.

I said that I have two MX4, used by two different people.
These phones have the same problem and in both it started in
the same day (15 november).
So, I don't think it's an hardware issue, in addition my
phone never fell down.

I don't understand why I have this problem.
Maybe there are updates that we received 

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] GPS - does it work, how is it supposed to work?

[Thomas Voß]

On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 6:04 AM,   wrote:
> On 2015-11-27 23:05 , Thomas Voß wrote:
>> On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 3:50 PM,   wrote:
>>> FWIW I took care to install OTA8 and re-try before filing my bugs, and I
>>> haven't seen a big improvement.
>>>
>> ack, I will keep updating this thread to keep you posted.
>>
>>
> I take it back.  I just tested by switching the phone to airplane mode
> and leaving it on the roof for ten minutes.  When I checked back it had
> a fix.  I guess something in OTA-8 did indeed fix it, and the last time
> I tried I just didn't give it enough of a chance, or perhaps I was
> moving too much.
>

That's good to know, thanks for the update.

> I also tried the same thing last night only to discover that it got a
> fix within a few seconds.  That seemed suspicious, I don't believe you
> could ever download the ephemeris so quickly, so it seemed like it had
> been cached from somewhere.  But I'm just guessing.  It really would be
> good if the system exposed what it knows about the current status of the
> ephemeris somehow so I can check.  I.e. when a request was made and when
> it was successful.
>

The chipset and its driver certainly cache ephimeris information. We
have test cases to force cold-starts, though.
Invoking them requires command-line access to your phone:

  > sudo ubuntu-location-serviced-cli --bus system --test

Runs 3 trials to estimate the mean time to first fix from cold start.
(and yes: 3 is low, but a tradeoff in terms of time :)).
If you want to see what the test is doing, simply run:

  > sudo GLOG_v=200 GLOG_logtostderr=1 ubuntu-location-serviced-cli
--bus system --test

Other than that, I think surfacing more status information to the user
via our UI would help quite a lot.

> It seems like more logging in the syslog would be a good idea - record
> when GPS and location services are switched on and off, when ephemeris
> is requested by the GPS unit, log whether or not an actual network
> request is made, log when it succeeds, and log when a fix is established
> or disappears.  Should I submit a bug for that?
>

Not required for "raw" logging. If you are happy to do some config
file editing, you can easily switch
on verbose logging by following
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/location-service/15.04/view/head:/doc/debugging.md#L52.
You only need to adjust /etc/init/ubuntu-location-service.override to
gain quite some insight into what the service is doing.

Enabling verbose logging at runtime without the need to edit
configuration files is in-flight, too:

  https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/location-service/runtime-log-switch

We are aiming to land for OTA-9 right now.

> Also, so the chipset doesn't expose its own satellite ephemeris status.
> Do you know if that's universal with GPS chips?  I don't know much about
> it, but I assume this means the GPS chip has its own RAM, in which case
> it might not be too difficult for a chip designer to provide raw RAM
> access if they had a reason to do so.  It might be possible to encourage
> some phone manufacturers (e.g. Fairphone) to choose a more
> hacker-friendly option, if there is one.
>
>

So to clarify: The chipset *might* expose that information somehow, it
is not available to us via the chipset driver, though.
We ultimately rely on Android's GPS HAL to access the GPS subsystem
(see 
http://androidxref.com/4.4.4_r1/xref/hardware/libhardware/include/hardware/gps.h).
While there is a debug hook available, it is highly vendor specific
and we do not use it (for the simple reason that we aim to keep higher
levels of the stack free of
vendor-specific code). If I could choose, I would prefer the chipset
to expose debugging information via sysfs entries @Fairphone et al.

Cheers,

  Thomas

> --
> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
> Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net
> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
> More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

-- 
Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net
Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Japanese IME support on Ubuntu Phone

[Ashwin Sewambar]

What might be even more puzzling is that there is no support for 
Traditional Chinese, only simplified...is it a lot of work to add 
another characterset?



On 2015年11月29日 16:18, ubuntu.me...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

On 2015-11-29 13:09 , David Kuehling wrote:

Hi,

I need to get a new phone and am concidering going for an Ubuntu Phone.

Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu [1] or E5.0 HD Ubuntu [2] can be readily bought here
in Germany and I consider getting one of these.  But: I absolutely need
to be able to write japanese emails on those phones.  Can somebody tell
me whethere current Firmware available for these phones has a usable
Japanese IME that is usable with the Mail app on Ubuntu-Phone?

To my surprise, no, it doesn't seem to have Japanese.  Scottish Gaelic 
yes, but not Japanese.


As to usable... I don't know if Kanji is important to you, but I'm 
using Chinese and you need really good predictive text to type 
efficiently.  This is a real pain point for me - Bug #1488705 
.


If it gets implemented at all, it'll work fine in all circumstances: 
mail, SMS, etc.





-- 
Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net
Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Japanese IME support on Ubuntu Phone

[ubuntu . mexon]

On 2015-11-29 13:09 , David Kuehling wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I need to get a new phone and am concidering going for an Ubuntu Phone.  
>
> Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu [1] or E5.0 HD Ubuntu [2] can be readily bought here
> in Germany and I consider getting one of these.  But: I absolutely need
> to be able to write japanese emails on those phones.  Can somebody tell
> me whethere current Firmware available for these phones has a usable
> Japanese IME that is usable with the Mail app on Ubuntu-Phone?
>
To my surprise, no, it doesn't seem to have Japanese.  Scottish Gaelic
yes, but not Japanese.

As to usable... I don't know if Kanji is important to you, but I'm using
Chinese and you need really good predictive text to type efficiently. 
This is a real pain point for me - Bug #1488705
.

If it gets implemented at all, it'll work fine in all circumstances:
mail, SMS, etc.
-- 
Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net
Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Not working features in stable OS

[Krzysztof Tataradziński]

2015-11-28 22:04 GMT+01:00 Gareth France :

> On 28/11/15 20:42, Krzysztof Tataradziński wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Question about placing unfinished/not working features in OS. If we
>> look in example at Youtube or Soundcloud Scope, there is a login
>> option, but it doesn't working (for Youtube there is also option to
>> enable it in System Settings -> Accounts). So why that buttons with
>> not working login options are there? Maybe better would be to
>> delete/hide that buttons until there are repaired? Why OTA after OTA
>> we seeing them? Is it only bothers me viewing things that are not
>> working (since few OTAs) or that bother anyone else?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Krzysztof Tataradziński
>> https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156
>>
>> If it bothers you to see rough edges then why purchase a phone with an
> operating system which is currently most famous for not being finished? We
> all accepted before purchase that we would be witnessing the development of
> the finished product.
>
>
Sorry, but I think You miss the point. In my opinion there is problem with
providing basic features that can be reached by hardware. Lets see at radio
FM - doesn't work. 4K recording in MX4 (146 days - aging of the bug
https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1471666 )
that was advertised when selling phone. Also proper resolution of the
photos - that is also long-aged bug not repaired yet.
Suppose that Canonical are making cars. There will develop high-end
electric car. They will told us that for now car can reach 100 km/h in 4.5
seconds, has range 560 km on one charge and some other cool features. But
you ask about breaks - why they are not working? You probably will hear: we
working on that, don't have hard deadline for that, but we must admit that
in next software update we improve battery charging and implement feature
that allow car to fly for 30 seconds. But you are thinking - why I need car
that can charge fast and fly, if it can't even brake? That is analogical
situation to convergence - we don't have some basic features worked in
every other phones, but ignoring them, Canonical is implementing some other
- of course that convergence feature is great and killing other mobile OSes
- but I don't care of that, if I can't even use radio FM, send files via
Bluetooth or download file that phone can't open without proper app.
I think that Canonical is missing something - there are many basic features
that are not working and should focus on them. Ubuntu has one of the most
active community in IT world, but I think there is problem with using its
resources and communication with it.
I also understand that Canonical has limited resources, but if there is a
problem with that - ask community what to.
My proposal is to create crowdfunding campaign and hire someone to work
with basic bugs/features. If that campaign would appear, it seems to me
that people will be more than happy, knowing that their money will go to
provide the basic functionality of their phones.

> --
> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
> Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net
> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
> More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
>
-- 
Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net
Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Japanese IME support on Ubuntu Phone

[Mike Sheldon]

Hi David,

 There's a Japanese input method currently in review, we're hoping to
include it for OTA-9.

Cheers,
 Mike.

On Sun, 2015-11-29 at 06:09 +0100, David Kuehling wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I need to get a new phone and am concidering going for an Ubuntu
> Phone.  
> 
> Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu [1] or E5.0 HD Ubuntu [2] can be readily bought
> here
> in Germany and I consider getting one of these.  But: I absolutely
> need
> to be able to write japanese emails on those phones.  Can somebody
> tell
> me whethere current Firmware available for these phones has a usable
> Japanese IME that is usable with the Mail app on Ubuntu-Phone?
> (Googeling for the topic unfortunately did not turn up any definite
> answers)
> 
> I absolutely want to stay away from the Google/Android ecosystem so
> would be willing to sacrifice some comfort in turn for having more
> control over my phone and data.
> 
> cheers,
> 
> David
> 
> [1] http://store-de.bq.com/de/ubuntu-edition-e-4-5
> [2]  http://store-de.bq.com/de/ubuntu-edition-e5
> -- 
> GnuPG public key: http://dvdkhlng.users.sourceforge.net/dk2.gpg
> Fingerprint: B63B 6AF2 4EEB F033 46F7  7F1D 935E 6F08 E457 205F
> 

-- 
Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net
Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

[Ubuntu-phone] BQ E4.5 && UFS file system (was: Re: Read an USB memory)

[Matthias Apitz]

El día Friday, November 27, 2015 a las 08:27:06PM +0100, Matthias Apitz 
escribió:

> I have tested it with an OTG adapter (they are very cheap, 1.70 Euro).
> The USB stick is recognised fine and presented as /dev/sda*.
> 
> All my USB keys have one partition formated for FreeBSD' UFS file
> system. Is there a way to mount this in the BQ' Ubuntu?

Hi,

The 'askubuntu.com' says about mounting UFS file systems:

http://askubuntu.com/questions/85154/mount-ufs-filesystem

  sudo modprobe ufs

  mkdir ~/ufs_mount
  sudo mount -r -t ufs -o ufstype=ufs2 /dev/sdb1 /home//ufs_mount

The 'modprobe' fails with:

phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ sudo modprobe ufs
modprobe: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod.c:557 kmod_search_moddep() could not
open moddep file '/lib/modules/3.4.67/modules.dep.bin'

Any comments?

matthias

-- 
Matthias Apitz, ✉ g...@unixarea.de,  http://www.unixarea.de/  ☎ 
+49-176-38902045

-- 
Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net
Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] BQ E4.5 && UFS file system

[sturmflut]

Hi Matthias,

the kernel shipped with the device doesn't come with any modules. You
would probably have to build your own kernel with UFS support from
https://github.com/bq/aquaris-E4.5/tree/aquaris-E4.5-ubuntu-master .

cheers,
Simon


Am 11/30/2015 um 08:47 AM schrieb Matthias Apitz:
> El día Friday, November 27, 2015 a las 08:27:06PM +0100, Matthias Apitz 
> escribió:
> 
>> I have tested it with an OTG adapter (they are very cheap, 1.70 Euro).
>> The USB stick is recognised fine and presented as /dev/sda*.
>>
>> All my USB keys have one partition formated for FreeBSD' UFS file
>> system. Is there a way to mount this in the BQ' Ubuntu?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The 'askubuntu.com' says about mounting UFS file systems:
> 
> http://askubuntu.com/questions/85154/mount-ufs-filesystem
> 
>   sudo modprobe ufs
> 
>   mkdir ~/ufs_mount
>   sudo mount -r -t ufs -o ufstype=ufs2 /dev/sdb1 
> /home//ufs_mount
> 
> The 'modprobe' fails with:
> 
> phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ sudo modprobe ufs
> modprobe: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod.c:557 kmod_search_moddep() could not
> open moddep file '/lib/modules/3.4.67/modules.dep.bin'
> 
> Any comments?
> 
>   matthias
> 

-- 
Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net
Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Meizu MX4 (Arale r6), impossible to use the phone, serious problem using touch screen

["@j"@y]

This for sure is a hardware problem and probably with the digitiser. I 
have already dispatched my phone to Meizu for the same problem


   email : i...@meizumart.it

   the address for Italy is as below :

   company: Le.ali srl

   street: via provinciale pianura 20b

   zip code: 80078

   city: Pozzuoli (NAPLES)

   phone number: +390818666045

   country: Italy

As stated by Meizu, it does not guarantee that this fault will be surely 
repaired under warranty,  they have to verify the phone..
A Return Merchandise authorisation form will have to be filled up, which 
can be obtained from the company.


I do not know the fate of my handset yet, hoping for the best.
Regards
Ajay

On Monday 30 November 2015 12:19 AM, a5a15447 wrote:
I finally managed to succeed in installing stock android on my Ubuntu 
Meizu and...
the keypad is a hardware failure rather than software (doesn't work on 
android either). I will be returning the unit to Meizu. though where 
to send it is a mystery at the moment.

If anyone has an address for returns, I would be obliged.
peter richards


*From: *"a5a15447" 
*To: *"Marco Graziotti" 
*Cc: *"ubuntu-phone" 
*Sent: *Monday, November 16, 2015 9:43:34 PM
*Subject: *Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Meizu MX4 (Arale r6), impossible to use 
the phone, serious problem using touch screen


that's EXACTLY where I am at too. At this point it's almost bricked.
Does ubuntu have a solution?
peter richards


*From: *"Marco Graziotti" 
*To: *"John McAleely" 
*Cc: *"ubuntu-phone" 
*Sent: *Monday, November 16, 2015 3:55:42 PM
*Subject: *Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Meizu MX4 (Arale r6), impossible to use 
the phone, serious problem using touch screen



Hi John,

thank you for your answer.

I saw that if I remove the protection shield from the screen (plastic 
shield installed on the screen) this problem it's partially solved. 
Infact, now I have a problem with the bottom of touch surface, I can't 
press anything in this part.
I decided to reset the phone, but I'm not able to press the "continue" 
button from the display. Now my phone is totally unusable.


I searched on internet for a solution, and it seems that many MX4 are 
affected from this problem. Some MX4 launch apps randomly by 
themselves, like mine. This happened after I removed the protection 
shield (I made a video of this issue, similar to this one: 
https://youtu.be/azNK63maBxM ).


Now I have a problem like the one showed in this video: 
https://youtu.be/T4LJhkyk-oU the bottom of MX4 display doesn't work, 
but in my case the "home" button works, but not the screen bottom.


Right now I'm stuck at the first step of restore procedure (where you 
can choose a language), and i can't go forward because the bottom of 
the display doesn't work. Now my phone is totally unusable.


What can I do?

Thank you,

Marco Graziotti



Il 16/11/2015 23:09, John McAleely ha scritto:

Ubuntu does not update silently.

Assuming you are on the default settings, there has been no OS
update for some weeks (The next is due soon). It will, as always,
require your action before installing.

Application updates are similar, but more frequent. Without
knowing what applications you have, it is impossible to know when
the last one was. Again, however, your action is needed.

So it seems any problem you have is unlikely to be the result of
software updates.

There is a factory reset option in the settings if you wish to
reset. 'Wiping the cache' is an android-ism.

J


On 16 November 2015 at 21:41, Marco Graziotti
> wrote:


Thank you guys for your answers,

but I think I was not able to explain the problem.

I said that I have two MX4, used by two different people.
These phones have the same problem and in both it started in
the same day (15 november).
So, I don't think it's an hardware issue, in addition my phone
never fell down.

I don't understand why I have this problem.
Maybe there are updates that we received during the day that
didn't require our approval? Something like a "silent" update.

I see a strange behaviour from the phone, for example if I
connect via usb the phone to my pc with ubuntu 15.10 the
problem seems mitigate, why?

There's a method to wipe the cache? how can I restore my phone?

Thank you,

Marco Graziotti



Il 16/11/2015 20:43, vampireechi...@yahoo.co.uk
 ha scritto:

Hello,

I don't have any issues with my MX4 when it comes to the