Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Fwd: LiveFS ubuntustudio/cosmic/amd64 failed to build on 20181003

2018-10-03 Thread Charlie
ok. i was just curious. never seen that before.

Charlie Luna

> On Oct 3, 2018, at 16:22, Erich Eickmeyer  wrote:
> 
> Just means that the CD image failed to build. If it failed for us it likely 
> failed for the other flavors as well. Nothing to worry about it, the release 
> team is on it.
> 
> Erich
> 
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> Does anybody know what's up with this?
> 
> Charlie Luna
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Fwd: LiveFS ubuntustudio/cosmic/amd64 failed to build on 20181003

2018-10-03 Thread Erich Eickmeyer
Just means that the CD image failed to build. If it failed for us it likely 
failed for the other flavors as well. Nothing to worry about it, the release 
team is on it.

Erich



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build on 20181003

Does anybody know what's up with this?

Charlie Luna

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[ubuntu-studio-devel] Fwd: LiveFS ubuntustudio/cosmic/amd64 failed to build on 20181003

2018-10-03 Thread Charlie
Does anybody know what's up with this?

Charlie Luna

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[ubuntu-studio-devel] LiveFS ubuntustudio/cosmic/amd64 failed to build on 20181003

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] availability of alternate DEs

2018-10-03 Thread Len Ovens

On Wed, 3 Oct 2018, Charlie wrote:


Erich: understood. would the metapackages include the low latency headers as
well?


in synaptic search for ubuntustudio-* packages install the ones you want 
(audio, graphics whatever) but probably not the desktop. Also install 
linux-lowlatency if you are doing audio work. And install 
ubuntustudio-controls. Do run -controls at least once to set memory limits 
and real time priorities and logout and in. I would warn against the the 
gnome software installer, but the plasma moan (I think it is) is fine. I 
don't know what -default-settings will do for plasma, but it makes sure 
that if you have both generic and lowlatency kernels that lowlatency is 
default. It adds some other audio specific setting (like swappiness) as 
well.


We have been thinking of making Studio an add on rather than it's own 
iso... Maybe a choice to add Studio or make Studio


So install any ubuntu flavour then make it into Studio with that DE:
- adds Studio's boot screen
- adds Studio's startup graphic
- maybe remove generic kernel
- make DM Studio specific
- make default backdrop Studio specific

Or, add Studio
- boot screen, startup graphics, backdrops and DE left as is
- lowlatency kernel added as default (or user choice via setup?)
- audio tweaks added
- Studio metas added (as chosen)

This would really require an updated -install package I think as well as 
some extensions to -controls... though swappiness 60 is not really good 
for any desktop use anyway. Maybe some of the other tweaks we make can be 
just left in.


I don't know how easy it would be to make an install iso where the user DL 
an iso of the flavour of their choice and the studio install iso... 
installs the flavour and then installs the studio iso on top choosing 
option A or B as above (or some variant).


This would replace our live ISO and xfce would no longer be "the Studio 
DE". It would be based on the net iso instead of desktop and would ensure 
proper install order, proper install user groups, proper jackd install, 
etc.


In the case of installing over a fresh install, the Make this into Studio 
choice would be default. If the user has logged in at least once since 
install (~/.config exists) then the Add studio to this flavour would be 
default.


Just an idea... it would be some work to get there... but it would be some 
work to go anywhere from here.


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] availability of alternate DEs

2018-10-03 Thread Charlie
Erich and Jonathan: something else I wanted to add to my reply. I mentioned the 
latte dock and why I like it so well, it's the only panel style I use, albeit 
in Kubuntu, is that it has some features that gnome does with the active bar 
and dot above the icons for the active programs at the time. I hope that's 
easily understood. Instead of having open window bubbles on the panel, it just 
uses a bar and dot above the icons. Very nice and I love that. If that can be 
installed on Ubuntu Studio, I'd be ecstatic. Or if that option can be 
incorporated into XFCE altogether, that'd be great.

Charlie Luna

> On Oct 3, 2018, at 10:07, Erich Eickmeyer  wrote:
> 
> To answer the initial question, Plasma will not be installable from an ISO, 
> but will be available in the repositories. Unfortunately spinning a new iso 
> for Plasma has proven to be time prohibitive, so a direction that is being 
> considered is to add a meta package to a Kubuntu install to convert it into 
> Ubuntu Studio (and have metapackages available to convert other flavors as 
> well). Yes, that adds an extra step, but it’s the most logical solution 
> considering our manpower and time allotment.
> 
> Erich
> 
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> Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2018 9:17 AM
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> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] availability of alternate DEs
>  
> It would be interesting to have end users choose which DE they want. as 
> it stands everyone one has their own preferene I prefer KDE others on 
> this list like gnome.
> 
> Regards,
> Jonathan
> 
> On 2018-10-03 15:31, Charlie wrote:
> > will KDE plasma be available upon release of the final version of
> > 18.10 or will it be offered later? or will it be an option during
> > installation?
> > 
> > Charlie Luna
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] availability of alternate DEs

2018-10-03 Thread Charlie
Erich: understood. would the metapackages include the low latency headers as 
well?

Jonathan: Understood as well. Like you, I do prefer Plasma but I don't mind 
working with the XFCE interface. I think what would make things really awesome 
is to somehow install the latte dock that's available for Plasma. Is that 
possible with XFCE?

Charlie Luna

> On Oct 3, 2018, at 10:07, Erich Eickmeyer  wrote:
> 
> To answer the initial question, Plasma will not be installable from an ISO, 
> but will be available in the repositories. Unfortunately spinning a new iso 
> for Plasma has proven to be time prohibitive, so a direction that is being 
> considered is to add a meta package to a Kubuntu install to convert it into 
> Ubuntu Studio (and have metapackages available to convert other flavors as 
> well). Yes, that adds an extra step, but it’s the most logical solution 
> considering our manpower and time allotment.
> 
> Erich
> 
>  
> From: 20104043740n behalf of 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2018 9:17 AM
> To: Ubuntu Studio Development
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] availability of alternate DEs
>  
> It would be interesting to have end users choose which DE they want. as 
> it stands everyone one has their own preferene I prefer KDE others on 
> this list like gnome.
> 
> Regards,
> Jonathan
> 
> On 2018-10-03 15:31, Charlie wrote:
> > will KDE plasma be available upon release of the final version of
> > 18.10 or will it be offered later? or will it be an option during
> > installation?
> > 
> > Charlie Luna
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] availability of alternate DEs

2018-10-03 Thread Erich Eickmeyer
To answer the initial question, Plasma will not be installable from an ISO, but 
will be available in the repositories. Unfortunately spinning a new iso for 
Plasma has proven to be time prohibitive, so a direction that is being 
considered is to add a meta package to a Kubuntu install to convert it into 
Ubuntu Studio (and have metapackages available to convert other flavors as 
well). Yes, that adds an extra step, but it’s the most logical solution 
considering our manpower and time allotment.

Erich



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Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] availability of alternate DEs

It would be interesting to have end users choose which DE they want. as
it stands everyone one has their own preferene I prefer KDE others on
this list like gnome.

Regards,
Jonathan

On 2018-10-03 15:31, Charlie wrote:
> will KDE plasma be available upon release of the final version of
> 18.10 or will it be offered later? or will it be an option during
> installation?
>
> Charlie Luna

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] availability of alternate DEs

2018-10-03 Thread jaquilina
It would be interesting to have end users choose which DE they want. as 
it stands everyone one has their own preferene I prefer KDE others on 
this list like gnome.


Regards,
Jonathan

On 2018-10-03 15:31, Charlie wrote:

will KDE plasma be available upon release of the final version of
18.10 or will it be offered later? or will it be an option during
installation?

Charlie Luna


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[ubuntu-studio-devel] availability of alternate DEs

2018-10-03 Thread Charlie
will KDE plasma be available upon release of the final version of 18.10 or will 
it be offered later? or will it be an option during installation?

Charlie Luna

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