Re: Live translation

[Jwtiyar ali]

Hello Dear Gunnar
I did sent email to you before but didn't get answer.
The last time we discussed addition of kurdish(sorani) to ubuntu but we
were missing ckb_IQ in glibc upstream this problem is fixed and its
available and approved from 1 february with latest master version of glibc
2.31 .
Another problem we faced was lack of kurdish(sorani) translation and it was
0.6% nowadays we are growing it fast today is %2.2 approximately and you
told us that time may be you can make an exception for our kurdish(sorani)
language to be available in ubuntu if reached %2 now we did reach it
already.
Can you please make an connection to see what we can do about that?
Your help really appreciated.


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On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 1:15 AM Gunnar Hjalmarsson 
wrote:

> Hello, and sorry for a bit late reply
>
> On 2019-06-16 09:58, Jwtiyar ali wrote:
> > i have added my kurdish(sorani) language as default language to my
> > system, now iam working on translation, how i can make system update
> > its language pack every time a new translation added to launchapad
> > translation?
>
> For languages which have language packs in Ubuntu, those language packs
> are updated weekly in the development version a few months before each
> release. So for those, the translators have to wait for the next
> language pack update to see the result of recently translated strings.
>
> However, language packs are not created for all languages. A threshold
> is applied so language packs are created only for languages where at
> least 5% of the strings have been translated. As regards Kurdish
> (Sorani), and if I do the math correctly, only 0.6% of the strings are
> translated currently.
>
> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/eoan/+lang/ckb
>
> Almost 13000 more strings need to be translated into Kurdish (Sorani) to
> reach 5%.
>
> Until that has happened, and thus until the creation of the ckb language
> packs has started, I don't really see a practicable way to study the
> result of the translations.
>
> Now, that 5% threshold is not a natural law. I can think of asking for
> an exception in order to make it easier to establish Kurdish (Sorani) as
> one of the supported languages in Ubuntu, i.e. with ckb language packs.
> But before I try that, I'd like to see a substantial increase of the
> number of translated strings. Say approximately 4000 more translations
> to reach ~2%.
>
> It's not doable to explain all aspects of Ubuntu in a reply like this.
> Please feel welcome to ask for clarifications.
>
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Re: Live translation

[Gunnar Hjalmarsson]

On 2019-06-23 05:40, Jwtiyar ali wrote:

Thank you very much gunaar for the clarification, ok iam working onit
these days when get into 5% i will email you again.


That sounds promising indeed. There are a couple of more things I'd like 
to mention.


Ubuntu is a distro, which means that most of the packages are best 
translated upstream. An example: Assuming that it's standard Ubuntu with 
GNOME you are focused on, it would be better if you translated the GNOME 
packages via the GNOME interface at first hand:


https://l10n.gnome.org/

That way the translations would benefit other Linux users, and not only 
Ubuntu users.


I'm not sure that is possible currently, though. The reason is that the 
ckb_IQ locale is currently only known in Ubuntu.


To fix that, we'd need to get the ckb_IQ locale approved in glibc 
upstream. There is already a bug for the purpose:


https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=9809

But in the latest comment one of the developers asked a few questions. 
It would be very good if you or someone else in the Kurdish (Sorani) 
team could answer those questions.


In any case I wish you all luck with establishing Kurdish (Sorani) as a 
new language in Ubuntu!


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Re: Live translation

[Gunnar Hjalmarsson]

Hello, and sorry for a bit late reply

On 2019-06-16 09:58, Jwtiyar ali wrote:

i have added my kurdish(sorani) language as default language to my
system, now iam working on translation, how i can make system update
its language pack every time a new translation added to launchapad
translation?


For languages which have language packs in Ubuntu, those language packs 
are updated weekly in the development version a few months before each 
release. So for those, the translators have to wait for the next 
language pack update to see the result of recently translated strings.


However, language packs are not created for all languages. A threshold 
is applied so language packs are created only for languages where at 
least 5% of the strings have been translated. As regards Kurdish 
(Sorani), and if I do the math correctly, only 0.6% of the strings are 
translated currently.


https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/eoan/+lang/ckb

Almost 13000 more strings need to be translated into Kurdish (Sorani) to 
reach 5%.


Until that has happened, and thus until the creation of the ckb language 
packs has started, I don't really see a practicable way to study the 
result of the translations.


Now, that 5% threshold is not a natural law. I can think of asking for 
an exception in order to make it easier to establish Kurdish (Sorani) as 
one of the supported languages in Ubuntu, i.e. with ckb language packs. 
But before I try that, I'd like to see a substantial increase of the 
number of translated strings. Say approximately 4000 more translations 
to reach ~2%.


It's not doable to explain all aspects of Ubuntu in a reply like this. 
Please feel welcome to ask for clarifications.


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Live translation

[Jwtiyar ali]

Hey
i have added my kurdish(sorani) language as default language to my system,
now iam working on translation, how i can make system update its language
pack every time a new translation added to launchapad translation?


Best Regards


On Sat, Jun 15, 2019, 10:51 Jwtiyar ali  wrote:

> Hey guys
> i have added my kurdish(sorani) language as default language to my system,
> now iam working on translation, how i can make system update its language
> pack every time a new translation added to launchapad translation?
>
>
> Best Regards
>
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