Re: [ubuntu-uk] Notebook Problems
Hey I do use Compiz but the screensaver reference makes more sense. I recently started using the Ubuntu Satanic Edition screensaver and startup/shutdown bar thing (I haven't a clue what that's called). Assuming this is the cause I'm unsure of exactly how to remove it or replace it with the original Ubuntu files. It's a shame though as this stuff looks fantastic. On 2/17/08, Matthew Wild [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, If it is not a power saving problem, it sounds like X (the graphical display manager) is crashing. On Feb 16, 2008 11:29 PM, Jai Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, I use an Acer TravelMate 4151LMi (Notebook) and I have recently been having some issues with Gutsy - namely being automagically logged out and presented with the GDM sometimes when the notebook lid is closed. Do you use desktop effects/compiz, or similar? They are enabled by default in Gutsy, it could be worth disabling them just to test. You'll find the options under System-Preferences-Appearance. The other is a bizarre black screen state in which the monitor simply turns off and won't turn back on again (resulting in a requirement to reboot). Do you have a screensaver enabled? Set it to blank for testing purposes, if so. When in this state, does Ctrl+Alt+F1 do anything? Ctrl+Alt+F7? Ctrl+Alt+Backspace? When rebooting from this state, you may be doing this with a hardware reset button or similar. See if the laptop responds to the key sequence in section 4 of this post: http://matthewstechnologyblog.blogspot.com/2007/06/how-to-recover-ubuntulinux-pc.html Hope this helps, if not fix, then diagnose the problem :) Matthew. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Notebook Problems
On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 01:14:50PM +, Sean Miller wrote: Ubuntu Satanic Edition? Sean http://ubuntusatanic.org/news/about It's a set of themes to make Ubuntu look more like Windows Vista. -Gav -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://revford.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk I think we need to: Calibrate the flux circuit -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Notebook Problems
Ubuntu Satanic Edition? Sean http://ubuntusatanic.org/news/about It's a set of themes to make Ubuntu look more like Windows Vista. -Gav No, it's a set of themes to convert Ubuntu and Ubuntu Christian Edition into a Linux installation for the damned ;) Regardless there's nothing Vista-like about it. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bottom Screen Bar
Wulfy wrote: John Taylor wrote: Thanks for info...have tried your suggestion but it doesn't do what I want (at least on my machine).. a simple example is the MPPLAYER (Gnome) I activate it, produce music, minimize at which moment it disappears like a ferret down a drainpipe but the only way I can switch off the station is to reboot! John I use Kubuntu, not Ubuntu so this may not work for you. I got rid of the taskbar ages ago, as it just took up real estate on my kicker panel. Now, when I have something minimised (or behind a maximised window) I just do an AltTab and get a window list on the current desktop. That will bring back the lost window... Thanks chaps all ideas and variations on the theme work, sorry for delay in acknowledgement John -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Notebook Problems
On Sun, 2008-02-17 at 20:00 +, Jai Harrison wrote: Well it happened again and I just lost loads of stuff . I'm probably going to backup my home folder and reinstall Ubuntu. After doing so I'll make sure NOT to copy over everything from my home folder but only essentials (in case something in there is the cause of this). Unless anyone has an easier solution? Create a new user under your current install, and start from scratch. If the system still fails then it isn't something in your ~ Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] 'The One': new low-priced laptop with linux inside
Just found this article: http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/personal_tech/article3374812.ece the British company Elonex is launching the country’s first sub £100 computer later this month and hopes to be making 200,000 of them by the summer. So how can Elonex make a computer for so little? The secret is simple: open-source software. The One runs on Linux, which is a rival to Windows but completely free to use. Elonex will be launching the computer at the Education Show at the NEC in Birmingham at the end of this month, and is targeting schools as potential buyers. The elonex website seems to be down at the moment: http://www.elonex.co.uk So, anyone going to the Education Show? Anyone have any idea what distro it will be running? John -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [Fwd: Re: [OT] - MS XP Pro OEM CD - How?]
Chris Oattes wrote: Sean Miller said the following on 17/02/08 10:02: On 2/16/08, Eddie Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well what started out as a simple request has turned into a lot of unpleasantness: I don't know how to make it any more obvious I was seeking a *legal* solution and hoped somebody here might have one. I've all ready agreed that what you say may be correct in essence not necessarily the detail but I really can't be bothered arguing it any more. I really don't think Micro$oft is going to go to all the effort of suing somebody for re-installing an OEM machine using somebody else's CD (be that their physical CD or a burned image of it), I really don't... it would be incredibly pedantic to classify such a thing a piracy as the software is protected by licence keys and is useless without them... I would call copying the CD a technical infringement of the licence terms, no more than that. Piracy would have to involve also sharing the key or distributing a hacked copy that doesn't require a key, something that has not happened here at all... whether a copy has been burned from one's own CD (legal, I believe, for backup purposes) or from somebody else's what is arrived at in the end is the same... an installation of Windows XP using a valid OEM licence on the machine for which that licence was supplied... Sean I don't think the issue is that you will get fined loads of money for copying a Windows CD. The point is that it is, at best, against the terms of the license, and at worse could be considered piracy. Therefore the act of making a copy of the CD for someone else is wrong whichever way you look at it, and is not something that should be promoted on this list. That was simply the way I understood things too, it is more a matter of principle than anything. But principles are important. It would be pretty bad politics to have a MS comment that the Ubuntu UK list was colluding in something - anything - that was against a licence agreement. Licence agreements are all that stand between us and the world of proprietary software and all that it leads to.GPL and variants that is. -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Notebook Problems
Well it happened again and I just lost loads of stuff . I'm probably going to backup my home folder and reinstall Ubuntu. After doing so I'll make sure NOT to copy over everything from my home folder but only essentials (in case something in there is the cause of this). Unless anyone has an easier solution? On 2/17/08, Jai Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ubuntu Satanic Edition? Sean http://ubuntusatanic.org/news/about It's a set of themes to make Ubuntu look more like Windows Vista. -Gav No, it's a set of themes to convert Ubuntu and Ubuntu Christian Edition into a Linux installation for the damned ;) Regardless there's nothing Vista-like about it. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 'The One': new low-priced laptop with linux inside
John Levin wrote: Just found this article: the British company Elonex is launching the country’s first sub £100 computer later this month and hopes to be making 200,000 of them by the summer. snip So, anyone going to the Education Show? Anyone have any idea what distro it will be running? More info at http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/17/elonex-one-englands-100-quid-laptop/ http://jkkmobile.blogspot.com/2008/01/another-simple-linux-umpc-fontastic.html Looks like most mentions originated with the TimesOnline article; but distro doesn't seem to be mentioned anywhere. Mac -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 'The One': new low-priced laptop with linux inside
WOW I REALLY WANT ONE!!! The reason I never got an eee was the ridiculous price - £220!!?? I will start saving ASAP (Being 15, money is always scarce) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 'The One': new low-priced laptop with linux inside
Did anyone see the comment? I was pleased with this development until I read Linux Mike, Runcorn, United Kingdom I say we beat him until he changes his ways. No but seriously how can anyone have anything again linux? I really struggle with that. Regards, Daniel On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 00:02 +, James Grabham wrote: WOW I REALLY WANT ONE!!! The reason I never got an eee was the ridiculous price - £220!!?? I will start saving ASAP (Being 15, money is always scarce) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 'The One': new low-priced laptop with linux inside
I encounter such attitudes all the time, especially among old school businessmen. It usually changes once I boot up an Ubuntu live CD for them, but I often have to expend much dialogue in coercing them to even take a look. Tom Daniel Lamb wrote: Did anyone see the comment? I was pleased with this development until I read Linux Mike, Runcorn, United Kingdom I say we beat him until he changes his ways. No but seriously how can anyone have anything again linux? I really struggle with that. Regards, Daniel On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 00:02 +, James Grabham wrote: WOW I REALLY WANT ONE!!! The reason I never got an eee was the ridiculous price - £220!!?? I will start saving ASAP (Being 15, money is always scarce) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 'The One': new low-priced laptop with linux inside
Daniel Lamb wrote: No but seriously how can anyone have anything again linux? I really struggle with that. Hmm. I've been using Linux since Yggdrassil was the new kid on the block and I could get an SLS subscription on 3.5 floppies. And I definitely have things against Linux. Take off the rose tinted specs. The biggest problem with schools IT is training - not just for the teachers but also for the external support staff that have to help out. We gave serious consideration to trying to help improve our children's lower school facilities by reusing old systems, but in all honesty it woulf have become an albatross for the school as soon as the kids moved on and our interest in voluntary work to support that school died. James -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 'The One': new low-priced laptop with linux inside
On 2/18/08, James Mansion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The biggest problem with schools IT is training - not just for the teachers but also for the external support staff that have to help out. We gave serious consideration to trying to Well, as I see it there are three major operating systems on the desktop at present... - Windows - OS-X - Linux ...of the three, one is completely different, and obviously hard to learn for those used to the other two... long established key combinations (Ctrl-C, Ctrl-R, Shift-Tab) simply do not work... the top menu changes contextually, so how to get back to what you were just doing isn't apparent... ...of course, what we're talking here is OS-X, an OS that is completely different... and, imho, very hard to use compared to the other two. ...Micro$oft borrowed things like Ctrl-C from Unix... Linux desktops have (KDE/Gnom at least) retained key combinations common to Windows users for ease of portability... Could it be that we're talking ourselves out of the school market, because I don't actually see where this problem that James refers to is... if location on the screen is a problem then both KDE and Gnome can be configured to look just like Windows... OpenOffice will provide all the things that MSOffice can, and don't be fooled by the let's give them the same software as they'll use in the workplace because software changes... a school that 5 years ago taught pupils Office 2000, is that any more relevant today than had they taught the concepts using Openoffice?!?! Of course not... because Office 2000 is probably no less different to Microsoft's latest beast than Openoffice... it's the concepts you're teaching, not a brand... They say that once you've been conditioned into a way of thinking it is hard to break out of it... this is nowhere more present than in the fear of anything not Micro$oft. When people do actually break out they are generally impressed by what they find... let's not put our product down... if people really want proprietary software there is always wine/Crossover... let's tackle the fear head on... Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/