Re: [ubuntu-uk] a new laptop
On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Kris Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 9:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Neil Greenwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 4:45 PM, London School of Puppetry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there I am about to buy a new laptop- I was told that Dell do one with Hardy Heron already installed. Is this ok, oe should I get one with nothing then put HH onto it. I suppose this is just -- -basic advice I need. Caroline The m1330 is a nice, compact notebook, which has got a lot of positive reviews. It depends on what you are looking for in a notebook, I think that a 13 inch is about as large as is conveniently portable, although still much less than something such as the EEE or the tiny sony things. Mj I have an M1330, for other stuff.. (an inspiron as my main) The build quality is exceptional. Well recommended. I enquired with Dell about a month ago about the M1330 with Ubuntu preloaded. It seems that they don't supply it any more, instead favouring the Inspiron 1525. However, that may have changed in the month since I contacted them. Adam -- http://www.monkeez.org PGP key: 0x7111B833 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] [Fwd: [USN-612-2] OpenSSH vulnerability]
I thought it wise to forward this to the group. There will likely be further discussion about this issue as the week progresses. In a nutshell there's a flaw in OpenSSL in Debian, which we also have in Ubuntu. Read the attached email for more information. Cheers, Al. ---BeginMessage--- === Ubuntu Security Notice USN-612-2 May 13, 2008 openssh vulnerability CVE-2008-0166, http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-612-1 === A weakness has been discovered in the random number generator used by OpenSSL on Debian and Ubuntu systems. As a result of this weakness, certain encryption keys are much more common than they should be, such that an attacker could guess the key through a brute-force attack given minimal knowledge of the system. This particularly affects the use of encryption keys in OpenSSH. This vulnerability only affects operating systems which (like Ubuntu) are based on Debian. However, other systems can be indirectly affected if weak keys are imported into them. We consider this an extremely serious vulnerability, and urge all users to act immediately to secure their systems. The following Ubuntu releases are affected: Ubuntu 7.04 Ubuntu 7.10 Ubuntu 8.04 LTS This advisory also applies to the corresponding versions of Kubuntu, Edubuntu, and Xubuntu. Updating your system: 1. Install the security updates Ubuntu 7.04: openssh-client 1:4.3p2-8ubuntu1.3 openssh-server 1:4.3p2-8ubuntu1.3 Ubuntu 7.10: openssh-client 1:4.6p1-5ubuntu0.3 openssh-server 1:4.6p1-5ubuntu0.3 Ubuntu 8.04 LTS: openssh-client 1:4.7p1-8ubuntu1.1 openssh-server 1:4.7p1-8ubuntu1.1 Once the update is applied, weak user keys will be automatically rejected where possible (though they cannot be detected in all cases). If you are using such keys for user authentication, they will immediately stop working and will need to be replaced (see step 3). OpenSSH host keys can be automatically regenerated when the OpenSSH security update is applied. The update will prompt for confirmation before taking this step. 2. Update OpenSSH known_hosts files The regeneration of host keys will cause a warning to be displayed when connecting to the system using SSH until the host key is updated in the known_hosts file. The warning will look like this: @@@ @WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! @ @@@ IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE IS DOING SOMETHING NASTY! Someone could be eavesdropping on you right now (man-in-the-middle attack)! It is also possible that the RSA host key has just been changed. In this case, the host key has simply been changed, and you should update the relevant known_hosts file as indicated in the error message. 3. Check all OpenSSH user keys The safest course of action is to regenerate all OpenSSH user keys, except where it can be established to a high degree of certainty that the key was generated on an unaffected system. Check whether your key is affected by running the ssh-vulnkey tool, included in the security update. By default, ssh-vulnkey will check the standard location for user keys (~/.ssh/id_rsa, ~/.ssh/id_dsa and ~/.ssh/identity), your authorized_keys file (~/.ssh/authorized_keys and ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2), and the system's host keys (/etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key and /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key). To check all your own keys, assuming they are in the standard locations (~/.ssh/id_rsa, ~/.ssh/id_dsa, or ~/.ssh/identity): $ ssh-vulnkey To check all keys on your system: $ sudo ssh-vulnkey -a To check a key in a non-standard location: $ ssh-vulnkey /path/to/key If ssh-vulnkey says Unknown (no blacklist information), then it has no information about whether that key is affected. If in doubt, destroy the key and generate a new one. 4. Regenerate any affected user keys OpenSSH keys used for user authentication must be manually regenerated, including those which may have since been transferred to a different system after being generated. New keys can be generated using ssh-keygen, e.g.: $ ssh-keygen Generating public/private rsa key pair. Enter file in which to save the key (/home/user/.ssh/id_rsa): Enter passphrase (empty for no passphrase): Enter same passphrase again: Your identification has been saved in /home/user/.ssh/id_rsa. Your public key has been saved in /home/user/.ssh/id_rsa.pub. The key fingerprint is: 00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5. Update authorized_keys files (if necessary) Once the user keys have been regenerated,
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [Fwd: [USN-612-2] OpenSSH vulnerability]
Alan Pope wrote: I thought it wise to forward this to the group. There will likely be further discussion about this issue as the week progresses. In a nutshell there's a flaw in OpenSSL in Debian, which we also have in Ubuntu. Read the attached email for more information. Al Hadn't seen this when I posted the link. Sorry. Mac -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [Fwd: [USN-612-2] OpenSSH vulnerability]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mac wrote: Alan Pope wrote: I thought it wise to forward this to the group. There will likely be further discussion about this issue as the week progresses. In a nutshell there's a flaw in OpenSSL in Debian, which we also have in Ubuntu. Read the attached email for more information. Al Hadn't seen this when I posted the link. Sorry. Mac bit off-topic. Running Debian, and the fixed version has yet to hit the virginmedia mirror. Have installed through dpkg -i instead.. but worth noting for those on Debian. Regards, Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIKdEAauMjEM4rxIQRAnxvAJ9A4oo+UmzygICOExO9q67b/er4qACfQuW1 +YNgF2SHvXOz/Oa674jSmtk= =WwYv -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Dealing with the OpenSSL vulnerability (was: Re: [Fwd: [USN-612-2] OpenSSH vulnerability])
On Tue, 2008-05-13 at 18:14 +0100, Alan Pope wrote: I thought it wise to forward this to the group. There will likely be further discussion about this issue as the week progresses. In a nutshell there's a flaw in OpenSSL in Debian, which we also have in Ubuntu. Read the attached email for more information. Hi Al, Thanks for forwarding this. The announcement may look a little strange as it is talking about OpenSSL, but telling you to upgrade SSH. There was a preceeding announcement for the OpenSSL part, you can see it here: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-612-1 Before I explain some of the details of what you need to do, I'm sure that there are some people seeing all the commotion, but not really sure whether it affects them. You are affected if: * You have the openssh-server package installed. This is not the default for desktop systems. Look in synaptic, or use dpkg -l openssh-server to find out if you have it installed. * You use ssh keys to log in to any machines. This doesn't mean ssh using passwords, and is usually something you have to explicitly set-up, so you probably know if this is you. One clue would be the presence of *.pub files in your ~/.ssh directory. * You have created other secrets using OpenSSL, e.g. SSL keys. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them. It's absolutely better to be safe than sorry, and this is a serious vulnerability. It doesn't affect many desktop users that don't use remote CLI sessions over SSH though, so if the above conditions don't apply to you you should be fine. If you are not sure, please don't hesitate to ask. One reason this is getting so much attention is that it is extremely common for more advanced users, especially developers. I've just gone through the upgrade process myself, and yes, it's pretty annoying. However the maintainers have worked hard to make it as clear as possible what you have to do. When you upgrade openssh-server you will be prompted if you have a compromised server key. It will then be regenerated for you, but you will have to co-ordinate the associated fingerprint updates with any users that log in to the system. When you upgrade the client you will have a new command on your computer, ssh-vulnkey. If you run this in a terminal it will check common locations for ssh keys and try to tell you of any keys that are vulnerable, or any entries in ~/.authorized_keys that are vulnerable. You should delete the latter as soon as possible, but please make sure you have another way to access the machine first, for instance password logins enabled, an existing ssh connection, or just a keyboard plugged in to the back. You can then update it as you generate new keys. For the client ssh keys you should be sure that all keys are checked, you can pass filenames on the command line for any keys in non-standard locations. This includes ~/.ssh/id_rsa.1.pub and the like that are created by seahorse. To be sure here just pass the names of every key. If it says COMPROMISED: you should recreate the key immediately. If it says anything else you are at a lower risk, but should still consider regenerating the keys. Note that the problem is with RSA keys (the default), but there is some discussion over whether the security of DSA keys is reduced by the issue, and so you should consider recreating them again anyway. Also affected are SSL keys, so if you have those you should recreate them. Unfortunately I can't put much more detail in to that statement at the moment, but if you have questions I can try to answer them. Again, I will repeat the suggestion that if you are unsure about something to ask. I will try my best to help you, as I'm sure many others in the group will as well. Thanks, James -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OpenSSL vulnerability - Normal desktop user?
Mac wrote: I haven't seen this mentioned here, so in case anyone is affected and hasn't seen the advisory... https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2008-May/000705.html as a normal desktop user who does not log into other machines - am I correct in thinking it does not affect me? In a terminal dpkg -l openssh-server indicates it is not installed tia -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OpenSSL vulnerability
Mmm, I use SSH to administrate a machine locally. I figure I should spare no steps for the machine's security. However I haven't the faintest how I'm meant to generate a new key now once the update has been applied. Anyone able to help? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OpenSSL vulnerability - Normal desktop user?
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 7:38 PM, alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mac wrote: I haven't seen this mentioned here, so in case anyone is affected and hasn't seen the advisory... https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2008-May/000705.html as a normal desktop user who does not log into other machines - am I correct in thinking it does not affect me? openssh-client is installed by default. The Ubuntu updates will take care of it if necessary. If you don't have an SSH key which you use to log into other servers (ie. you use a password instead), you have nothing to do. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OpenSSL vulnerability - Normal desktop user?
alan c wrote: as a normal desktop user who does not log into other machines - am I correct in thinking it does not affect me? In a terminal dpkg -l openssh-server indicates it is not installed Yep, no need to do anything. :-) Mac -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OpenSSL vulnerability - Normal desktop user?
I guess Sourceforge keys have to be regenerated now too? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OpenSSL vulnerability
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 7:45 PM, Jai Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mmm, I use SSH to administrate a machine locally. I figure I should spare no steps for the machine's security. However I haven't the faintest how I'm meant to generate a new key now once the update has been applied. Anyone able to help? Run ssh-vulnkey in the terminal to check your keys. Just run ssh-keygen if your keys are compromised (I think it will overwrite your existing ones). As I said in the other thread, if you log in with a password and don't use keys, it doesn't affect you. (unless you also run openssh-server on your PC). -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OpenSSL vulnerability - Normal desktop user?
On Tue, 2008-05-13 at 19:38 +0100, alan c wrote: as a normal desktop user who does not log into other machines - am I correct in thinking it does not affect me? In a terminal dpkg -l openssh-server indicates it is not installed Hi Alan, That indicates that you don't have a vulnerable server key, which is a good start. The other two things to consider are * SSH client keys. If you don't ssh to other machines then you are unlikely to have them. Check the contents of ~/.ssh/ to make sure. * Other OpenSSL secrets. Most common would be SSL certificates for doing SSL, either server-side or client-side. If you don't run a webserver the former is very unlikely, and the latter is pretty unlikely as well. Thanks, James -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OpenSSL vulnerability
On Tue, 2008-05-13 at 19:50 +0100, Matthew Wild wrote: Run ssh-vulnkey in the terminal to check your keys. Just run ssh-keygen if your keys are compromised (I think it will overwrite your existing ones). Yes, it will, but it will only overwrite the first one, and then do that several times if you generate more. If you have more than one ssh key then make sure you regenerate each of them. Thanks, James -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Laptop Choices
Hey All, The time is approaching, the time when I buy a new laptop. My current one is an Acer TravelMate 4150. It's the most awful laptop ever. I have currently sent it in for repair twice and now something else has gone wrong with it so it looks like I'm going to have to send it in again. Acer's awful quality is leading me to *STAY AWAY* from them when purchasing my new notebook. I'm sure there's plenty of recommendations that you guys (and gals) can come up with based on your experience. Both in terms of hardware support in GNU/Linux and overall stability and efficiency of the hardware. I would also appreciate it if you could stick to hardware that requires low, if any, proprietary drivers (e.g. proprietary WiFi seems to be the norm so there's not much I can do about that). I would like to set the budget at one thousand pounds (£1,000) as I'm a student and so that's already pushing it for the price. I need all of the money I can get to put towards university. Jai / Venko -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Laptop Choices
Quoting Jai Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hey All, The time is approaching, the time when I buy a new laptop. My current one is an Acer TravelMate 4150. It's the most awful laptop ever. I have currently sent it in for repair twice and now something else has gone wrong with it so it looks like I'm going to have to send it in again. Acer's awful quality is leading me to *STAY AWAY* from them when purchasing my new notebook. I'm sure there's plenty of recommendations that you guys (and gals) can come up with based on your experience. Both in terms of hardware support in GNU/Linux and overall stability and efficiency of the hardware. I would also appreciate it if you could stick to hardware that requires low, if any, proprietary drivers (e.g. proprietary WiFi seems to be the norm so there's not much I can do about that). I would like to set the budget at one thousand pounds (£1,000) as I'm a student and so that's already pushing it for the price. I need all of the money I can get to put towards university. Jai / Venko -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ What are you going to be using it for? If you only have basic needs then a £500 one would be fine. Are you looking for something small and portable or a full desktop replacement. The xps m1330 is good, and I think uses nearly all free drivers if you choose the intel graphics. The dell vostros are pretty nice too. Or you could but 3 eee900's ;) Mj -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Laptop Choices
Jai Harrison wrote: Hey All, The time is approaching, the time when I buy a new laptop. snip I would like to set the budget at one thousand pounds (£1,000) as I'm a student and so that's already pushing it for the price. I need all of the money I can get to put towards university. Jai / Venko Well I'd say my Dell Latitude D610 is really well supported. Everything works out of the box. I can't say I've tried the newer Latitudes (D630) but looking at the spec, they seem to be pretty much the same with an Intel CPU/chipset, Intel Wireless (although IIRC they have Nvidia video on board rather than ATI, although this might just be the model we got in at work). Maybe you might be worth looking at the Dell Ubuntu laptops. I'm sure you could probably get a pretty decent dual core laptop for around the £600 mark which would last you for a good couple of years. Might be worth checking out about insurance too, just for that piece of mind. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Laptop Choices
On Tue, 2008-05-13 at 21:02 +0100, Jai Harrison wrote, among other things: The laptop should be decent with said things for the next 3 years (my bachelor's degree course length). Jai I would recommend Dell, as many others have done. I bought an Inspiron 6000 at the beginning of my last year of sixth form and it is still going strong (if with very diminished battery life, as can be expected) at the end of my 2nd year of university (three years now - no gap year!). I did have a hard drive failure, but this fortunately fell under warranty and if you don't have back-ups in case of this possibility you're a silly person in the first place. The build quality is decent, although as my flatmate has discovered with his Inspiron (a newer model), they don't particularly like being dropped all the time - it still works fine, but the screen hinge is now a bit dodgy. (Plus it still has Windows on it, of course.) Can't say anything about the Ubuntu Dells, but I wouldn't say no to a new Dell when the time comes for me to get a new machine. Hope that helps! -- All the best, Josh Blacker -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OpenSSL vulnerability
On Tue, 2008-05-13 at 18:18 +0100, Mac wrote: I haven't seen this mentioned here, so in case anyone is affected and hasn't seen the advisory... https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2008-May/000705.html Here's a good how to guide for resolving this:- http://hantslug.org.uk/lurker/message/20080513.191226.269a6c44.en.html As far as I can tell, the best way of fixing your ssh keys is: - Install the update - Delete the following files: ~/.ssh/id_* ~/.ssh/authorized_keys /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key* /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key* - Generate new host keys: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow openssh-server (Thanks to Adrian for pointing out the easy way) - Generate new personal keys: ssh-keygen -t rsa -b 4096 - Restart the ssh daemon Do this on all machines. Don't log out after deleting the host keys (in /etc/ssh) as you won't be able to log back in by ssh. As a precaution, I've also been regenerating the DH key exchange moduli, which are kept in /etc/ssh/moduli. That's documented near the bottom of the ssh-keygen man page. I haven't looked at the X.509 situation yet. Cheers Al. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Laptop Choices
Hi Jai - Had a look about: I know the Dell XPS laptops have been pretty good with Ubuntu... the 13.3 screens start at £599 and the 15.4 inch screens start at £539 I've heard good things about Ubuntu running on Fujitsu Lifebook series.. the build quality is very good and they are pretty nice to look at. My personal opinion is that Lenovo/IBM ThinkPads are the best - but might push your budget a little. Jim On 13 May 2008, at 20:42, Jai Harrison wrote: Hey All, The time is approaching, the time when I buy a new laptop. My current one is an Acer TravelMate 4150. It's the most awful laptop ever. I have currently sent it in for repair twice and now something else has gone wrong with it so it looks like I'm going to have to send it in again. Acer's awful quality is leading me to *STAY AWAY* from them when purchasing my new notebook. I'm sure there's plenty of recommendations that you guys (and gals) can come up with based on your experience. Both in terms of hardware support in GNU/Linux and overall stability and efficiency of the hardware. I would also appreciate it if you could stick to hardware that requires low, if any, proprietary drivers (e.g. proprietary WiFi seems to be the norm so there's not much I can do about that). I would like to set the budget at one thousand pounds (£1,000) as I'm a student and so that's already pushing it for the price. I need all of the money I can get to put towards university. Jai / Venko -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Laptop
Hi all in reply to Jai Harrison`s question I have just bought a dell inspiration 1525 loaded with 7.10. It works fine my wife is very happy using it,she was a Windows user and seems to have settled down to using it very well. I ordered it with some upgrades to the screen and hard drive and the four year repair or replace guarantee. It is very fast and was under £600. Hope this information is of some use. Regards Colum. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Laptop Choices
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 10:14 PM, James Hooker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jai - Hey Jim Had a look about: I know the Dell XPS laptops have been pretty good with Ubuntu... the 13.3 screens start at £599 and the 15.4 inch screens start at £539 I'm not sure about this particular range of Dell laptops but I've heard bad things about their delivery service which leads me to doubt if it's a good idea to buy anything from them at all. I've heard good things about Ubuntu running on Fujitsu Lifebook series.. the build quality is very good and they are pretty nice to look at. I'll look into those. I took a quick look just now and was put off by their choice to force Windows Vista upon their notebooks (it seems a lot of companies still offer XP and, if I have to pay for a Microsoft OS, I'd rather show them how much everyone hates Vista). My personal opinion is that Lenovo/IBM ThinkPads are the best - but might push your budget a little. I guess you're referring to their X series. I've heard some good stuff about them and the cheapest in the range still offers Windows XP as part of the bundle as oppose to Vista. Not ideal but I doubt they're going to realise that a large proportion of their user base is Linux users soon or perhaps they just don't care. The cheapest price I can find for anything in the newer X series (X61s) is Price: £1,151.14 inc VAT and that's with a 4 Cell Lithium-Ion Slim Line Battery. I'm guessing I could always treat myself to a 8 Cell which is more ideal after the original died (for around £100 extra). They include a 3 year warranty as standard, right? I was leaning towards the thinkpads before but my dad urged me to save my money. I don't know what to decide on the matter. Are they really worth the cash they cost? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Laptop Choices
Just to clarify, the reason I'm so paranoid about purchase of a new laptop is the hell that this Acer laptop has given me in terms of constant problems and having to continually send it off for repair. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Laptop
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 10:53 PM, colum phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all Hey Colum, in reply to Jai Harrison`s question I have just bought a dell inspiration 1525 loaded with 7.10. It works fine my wife is very happy using it,she was a Windows user and seems to have settled down to using it very well. I ordered it with some upgrades to the screen and hard drive and the four year repair or replace guarantee. It is very fast and was under £600. Hope this information is of some use. Thanks, I'll bear that in mind. Gosh, purchasing a laptop is like choosing a partner. They've all got great features but there's always something missing IMHO ;) Regards Colum. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] (spam) OpenSSL vulnerability
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 9:40 PM, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cheers Al. Al, should we trust the key attached to this e-mail though? How are we to know you really sent this? ;) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Laptop Choices
Jai Harrison wrote: I would like to be able to run Ubuntu with desktop effects and plenty of spare resources for things such as gaming through Wine (nothing too heavy - Age of Mythology, would like to give Age of Empires 3 a try), running virtual machines on, etc. The laptop should be decent with said things for the next 3 years (my bachelor's degree course length). I like my Dell Inspiron 1520. Dual-core for oomph, Intel i965/X3100 graphics works great with Compiz under Hardy, just about plays Portal and Neverwinter Nights when I dual-boot into MS-Windows. Broadcom WiFi works through propriatory drivers. Dell and Intel actively sponsor development of open-source drivers for their hardware (notably, the Intel i965 driver was massively improved for Hardy; Dell gave away laptops to graphics driver developers to encourage this). I got mine for GBP450 about four months ago. So long as I don't try to play Team Fortress 2 on it, it seems happy. -- Andrew Oakley -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] (spam) OpenSSL vulnerability
On Tue, 2008-05-13 at 23:21 +0100, Jai Harrison wrote: On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 9:40 PM, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cheers Al. Al, should we trust the key attached to this e-mail though? How are we to know you really sent this? ;) GPG isn't affected :þ Cheers, Al. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Laptop Choices
HP laptop - 15 widescreen, 2GB RAM, 120GB hard drive... £379.99 at Tesco. For your £1,000 you can buy a couple of them and still have a couple of hundred quid spare to spend on other things. Every little helps, as Tesco like to say. Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] [Fwd: OpenTech 2008 - registration open]
Geekery for all you Londoners. John Original Message * Ticket reservations now open - Please Redistribute Freely * Open Tech 2008 sponsored by BT Osmosoft Saturday July 5th - ULU, Malet Street, London, WC1E 7HY http://www.ukuug.org/events/opentech2008/ Open Tech 2008, from UKUUG and friends, is an informal one-day conference about technology, society and low- carbon living, featuring Open Source ways of working and technologies that anyone can have a go at. You can pre-register your ticket now at www.ukuug.org/events/opentech2008/registration to allow you to jump the queue and pay your fiver on the door. The last two times we did this, we sold out in advance, so you are strongly advised to pre-register. With 3 concurrent sessions, The line-up features: * Open Rights Group - 2 years, 344 days on * mySociety - WhatDoTheyKnow.com launch, and other goodies * Overthrowing Government on a Budget, Keeping Track of the CIA's Rendition Flights, Tracking Arms Dealers with Python and Bits of String * Ben Laurie and friends on network security * Danny O'Brien's Living on the Edge * AMEE, and Open Source Solar Heating * Saving money and reducing carbon through Green IT * Getting people involved with online media Totalling 60 talks across 3 sessions covering 9 hours, there's plenty in the programme for everyone including Rembrandt, Pr0n and Robot Monkeys, and all that's just in one session! The full schedule is at www.ukuug.org/events/opentech2008/schedule You can pre-register your ticket now at www.ukuug.org/events/opentech2008/registration to allow you to jump the queue and pay your fiver on the door. The last two times we did this, we sold out in advance, so you are strongly advised to pre-register. * Further information * Sign up for your tickets online, and tick the box to hear from us, or just send an email to join uf [EMAIL PROTECTED] (your address will only be used to contact you about OpenTech and will not be passed onto third parties). - or you can email [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you've any other questions. We're also looking for volunteers to help out on the day. In return for free early entry and our eternal gratitude, we're in need of a few people to show up a bit earlier and help us set the venue up. If you're interested, or have random other questions, email us on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Open Tech 2008 Saturday July 5th - ULU, Malet Street, London, WC1E 7HY http://www.ukuug.org/events/opentech2008/ Final programme may be subject to alteration. Thanks for reading! Cheers Ben, Etienne, Emily and Sam your friendly OpenTech 2008 organisers ___ Opentech-info mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ukuug.org/mailman/listinfo/opentech-info -- John Levin http://www.technolalia.org/blog/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] system hangs during debootstrap
All I've installed ubuntu-xen-desktop on my PC.Whenever I execute xen-create-image, the entire system hangs. Kindly, help me to get rid of this. Thanks in advance, Viswa -- ___ Visitor Medical Insurance for visitors to USA from http://www.buyamericaninsurance.com/?affiliateid=oneindia -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
