Re: [ubuntu-uk] ISPs
James Grabham wrote: I'm sure you've all seen the news concerning ISPs. Now I for one AM NOT paying someone to invade my privacy be logging what IPs I visit, so TalkTalk are getting the boot. Which means I'm a bit stuck; AOL, Virgin, Sky, Tiscali and Orange/Wanadoo are all out. I'm thinking Pipex business - static IP, unlimited downloads but it's £20 a month + VAT. What do others use/recommend? Unlimited Downloads is a must. Static IP would be a plus I was with demon internet for many years, with a static IP, which I did not need. The basic service was ok, BT line 'up to' 8mb, no set limits. However they lost the personal service feel, and had lots of customer accounts billing criticisms. The contention ration was 50:1 and my connection gave less than 2MB download speeds in reality. For 25 ukp pcm this was expensive. Local loop unbundling in my area (bracknell) offered a possible use of Ukonline isp for 15 ukp pcm and 30:1 ratio in their network, non fixed ip, no limits, for 2MB connection. I changed to them recently, no problems. As I expected, I get much faster download speeds now with a real 2MB line with 30:1, and I save 10 ukp pcm :-) I use p2p for foss and seeding, and the fair use says that although the service is unlimited downloads, if any user impacts too much they will be informed in writing a few times and then if unchanged, will (simply) be put on a connection for 50:1 contention ratio. Later will be reverted back when appropriate. This seemed ok to me, although I doubt if it is going to affect me for my modest upload seeding. However, I am attracted to the idea in principle also of using the local loop unbundled opportunity - should help some reasonable competition. -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 Linux user #360648 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ISPs
James Grabham wrote: I'm sure you've all seen the news concerning ISPs. Now I for one AM NOT paying someone to invade my privacy be logging what IPs I visit, so TalkTalk are getting the boot. Which means I'm a bit stuck; AOL, Virgin, Sky, Tiscali and Orange/Wanadoo are all out. I'm thinking Pipex business - static IP, unlimited downloads but it's £20 a month + VAT. What do others use/recommend? Unlimited Downloads is a must. Static IP would be a plus I have quite a bit of experience with Pipex business and would not recommend them. Besides, they're owned by Tiscali anyway. If you want a decent connection you will need to pay £20 - £30 a month. The cut rate ISPs are that cheap for a reason and you get what you pay for. Personally I use eclipse (www.eclipse.co.uk) and am very happy with them, but have heard good things about Entanet too. Regards Jon -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Bug Day
Hi, Having asked around members of the Ubuntu UK community there has been quite a luke warm response to the idea of a bug jam (global one scheduled for 8th-10th August). I thought there might be something like 30-50 people interested in attending a physical event, but after discussion it seems that 10 is a more realistic figure. First issue (as always) is a location. I've looked at places in London, and even seriously considered holding it at my house in Farnborough, Hampshire, and combining it with a BBQ. However our kitchen rebuild is overrunning, so this is not going to happen. August is also a tricky month. Many people are on holiday, kids are off school, and generally people have their minds on other things. Traditionally many LUGs have lower turnouts at meetings in August than other months. If a LUG is having a meet on that day then it might be good to turn up to that, and do the bug jamming there. The other option that is worth considering is the Pembury pub in London. We could go there on either Sat or Sun or both during the day. They have Wifi and plenty of space to set out laptops and jam. Discuss... Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bug Day
Alan Pope wrote: Hi, Having asked around members of the Ubuntu UK community there has been quite a luke warm response to the idea of a bug jam (global one scheduled for 8th-10th August). I thought there might be something like 30-50 people interested in attending a physical event, but after discussion it seems that 10 is a more realistic figure. 10 people can be manageable, more so than 30 (looking on the bright side). I'm up for such an event. August is also a tricky month. Many people are on holiday, kids are off school, and generally people have their minds on other things. Traditionally many LUGs have lower turnouts at meetings in August than other months. Could leave it til September, after the holiday season. If a LUG is having a meet on that day then it might be good to turn up to that, and do the bug jamming there. The other option that is worth considering is the Pembury pub in London. We could go there on either Sat or Sun or both during the day. They have Wifi and plenty of space to set out laptops and jam. Local to me so I'll vote for the Pembury. Friendly, free software users, good beer. Very happy to check all their barrels for bugs. Am wondering if the good burghers of Hackney will be doing Sunday lunch though; Saturday during the day might be better. John -- John Levin http://www.technolalia.org/blog/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bug Day
I only wish that there was something further north (near/in Manchester) and a bit more relaxed - I'm 15, interested in Linux etc, but I don't really want to be talking about code and the command prompt all day lol, just want to get to know people who also use it. Ah, there's my little gem of an insight lol James Milligan Global Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Business Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Private Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website:www.lake54.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Levin Sent: 29 July 2008 12:51 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bug Day Alan Pope wrote: Hi, Having asked around members of the Ubuntu UK community there has been quite a luke warm response to the idea of a bug jam (global one scheduled for 8th-10th August). I thought there might be something like 30-50 people interested in attending a physical event, but after discussion it seems that 10 is a more realistic figure. 10 people can be manageable, more so than 30 (looking on the bright side). I'm up for such an event. August is also a tricky month. Many people are on holiday, kids are off school, and generally people have their minds on other things. Traditionally many LUGs have lower turnouts at meetings in August than other months. Could leave it til September, after the holiday season. If a LUG is having a meet on that day then it might be good to turn up to that, and do the bug jamming there. The other option that is worth considering is the Pembury pub in London. We could go there on either Sat or Sun or both during the day. They have Wifi and plenty of space to set out laptops and jam. Local to me so I'll vote for the Pembury. Friendly, free software users, good beer. Very happy to check all their barrels for bugs. Am wondering if the good burghers of Hackney will be doing Sunday lunch though; Saturday during the day might be better. John -- John Levin http://www.technolalia.org/blog/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 29/07/2008 06:43 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 29.07.2008 06:43 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bug Day
Eek - just remembered - not called command prompt in Linux - terminal (sorry! He says cowering away into a dark corner...) It's because I'm using a Windows PC at the moment - I'm game online - that's the only thing stopping me from switching fully to Ubuntu. James Milligan Global Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Business Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Private Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website:www.lake54.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Milligan Sent: 29 July 2008 12:57 To: 'British Ubuntu Talk' Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bug Day I only wish that there was something further north (near/in Manchester) and a bit more relaxed - I'm 15, interested in Linux etc, but I don't really want to be talking about code and the command prompt all day lol, just want to get to know people who also use it. Ah, there's my little gem of an insight lol James Milligan Global Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Business Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Private Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website:www.lake54.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Levin Sent: 29 July 2008 12:51 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bug Day Alan Pope wrote: Hi, Having asked around members of the Ubuntu UK community there has been quite a luke warm response to the idea of a bug jam (global one scheduled for 8th-10th August). I thought there might be something like 30-50 people interested in attending a physical event, but after discussion it seems that 10 is a more realistic figure. 10 people can be manageable, more so than 30 (looking on the bright side). I'm up for such an event. August is also a tricky month. Many people are on holiday, kids are off school, and generally people have their minds on other things. Traditionally many LUGs have lower turnouts at meetings in August than other months. Could leave it til September, after the holiday season. If a LUG is having a meet on that day then it might be good to turn up to that, and do the bug jamming there. The other option that is worth considering is the Pembury pub in London. We could go there on either Sat or Sun or both during the day. They have Wifi and plenty of space to set out laptops and jam. Local to me so I'll vote for the Pembury. Friendly, free software users, good beer. Very happy to check all their barrels for bugs. Am wondering if the good burghers of Hackney will be doing Sunday lunch though; Saturday during the day might be better. John -- John Levin http://www.technolalia.org/blog/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 29/07/2008 06:43 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 29.07.2008 06:43 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 29/07/2008 06:43 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 29.07.2008 06:43 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bug Day
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James Milligan wrote: but I don't really want to be talking about code I think that it being a bug fixing day then you'd be out of luck! It sounds like you're after a social event - I'm not sure what there is to offer you in that realm, but starting with your local http://lug.org.uk/ may be a good start? Welcome to Ubuntu :) - -- Stephen O'Neill w: http://www.thefloatingfrog.co.uk/ e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFIjwi4J+Auntu1v4QRAgB9AJ9YM1uASl5oba6cEebNCEN8t7LBmgCfQR6u Yqwwnlj9fkVDy5T/2jbagwM= =xhJj -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bug Day
I've been using Ubuntu mainly on Virtual machines for the past year, and really liked them (but obviously can't experience the full potential...). I used the LiveCD to show my Dad what it is like, and he quite liked it, but was worrying about it crashing the computer, and therefore messing everything up. I've shown him one of the guides on the internet about dual-booting (http://apcmag.com/how_to_dualboot_vista_with_linux_vista_installed_first.ht m) but he still wasn't keen - what can I persuade him with? Thanks for the link - I'll check that out now. Just thinking - this is going a bit off-topic now (oops) James Milligan Global Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Business Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Private Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website:www.lake54.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen O'Neill Sent: 29 July 2008 13:11 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bug Day -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James Milligan wrote: but I don't really want to be talking about code I think that it being a bug fixing day then you'd be out of luck! It sounds like you're after a social event - I'm not sure what there is to offer you in that realm, but starting with your local http://lug.org.uk/ may be a good start? Welcome to Ubuntu :) - -- Stephen O'Neill w: http://www.thefloatingfrog.co.uk/ e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFIjwi4J+Auntu1v4QRAgB9AJ9YM1uASl5oba6cEebNCEN8t7LBmgCfQR6u Yqwwnlj9fkVDy5T/2jbagwM= =xhJj -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 29/07/2008 06:43 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 29.07.2008 06:43 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bug Day
Hi James - Great job on trying to persuade the parents! On parents I always use the No Viruses approach -and highlighted how much money she (my mother) would save on buying anti-virus products. Then installed Extreme-Tux-Racer, and she's never looked back (I'll point out she's a mega novice, and when recommending it to her friends, refers to viruses as pop-ups) On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 13:15 +0100, James Milligan wrote: it signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bug Day
James, James Milligan wrote: I only wish that there was something further north (near/in Manchester) and a bit more relaxed - I'm 15, interested in Linux etc, but I don't really want to be talking about code and the command prompt all day lol, just want to get to know people who also use it. Are you aware of the MANLUG meetings? Check out www.manlug.org for details. We seem to be short of speakers recently so if you know anyone who could give an interesting Linux related presentation, let me know! Regards, Tony. James Milligan Global Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Business Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Private Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website:www.lake54.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Levin Sent: 29 July 2008 12:51 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bug Day Alan Pope wrote: Hi, Having asked around members of the Ubuntu UK community there has been quite a luke warm response to the idea of a bug jam (global one scheduled for 8th-10th August). I thought there might be something like 30-50 people interested in attending a physical event, but after discussion it seems that 10 is a more realistic figure. 10 people can be manageable, more so than 30 (looking on the bright side). I'm up for such an event. August is also a tricky month. Many people are on holiday, kids are off school, and generally people have their minds on other things. Traditionally many LUGs have lower turnouts at meetings in August than other months. Could leave it til September, after the holiday season. If a LUG is having a meet on that day then it might be good to turn up to that, and do the bug jamming there. The other option that is worth considering is the Pembury pub in London. We could go there on either Sat or Sun or both during the day. They have Wifi and plenty of space to set out laptops and jam. Local to me so I'll vote for the Pembury. Friendly, free software users, good beer. Very happy to check all their barrels for bugs. Am wondering if the good burghers of Hackney will be doing Sunday lunch though; Saturday during the day might be better. John -- Tony Arnold,Tel: +44 (0) 161 275 6093 Head of IT Security,Fax: +44 (0) 870 136 1004 University of Manchester, Mob: +44 (0) 773 330 0039 Manchester M13 9PL. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dual booting (Was: Re: Bug Day)
My Dad is quite savvy, but I'm more savvy ;-) When I start explaining something, like the viruses, he'd /somehow/ find a way to get back at me for it (not sure what, but he would). Can I use a USB external HDD? If I could, would there be a noticeable difference in performance? Also got no problems with backing up, got plenty of storage ;-) James Milligan Global Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Business Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Private Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website:www.lake54.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen O'Neill Sent: 29 July 2008 13:22 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Dual booting (Was: Re: Bug Day) -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James Milligan wrote: I've shown him one of the guides on the internet about dual-booting (http://apcmag.com/how_to_dualboot_vista_with_linux_vista_installed_fi rst.ht m) but he still wasn't keen - what can I persuade him with? Not sure really - have you tried http://wubi-installer.org/? It all depends on how savvy your Dad is as to how you persuade him I guess. If you backup all your data then you've nothing to lose. Buying a second hard drive so that you don't have to repartition your old one would be an added safeguard. Just thinking - this is going a bit off-topic now (oops) No probs - I've changed the subject heading so that everyone knows we've gone off on a tangent :D - -- Stephen O'Neill w: http://www.thefloatingfrog.co.uk/ e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFIjwtMJ+Auntu1v4QRAo/wAJ4wUUH/3hGLHPvzo/ubzupLIzJRNgCdEJ5w ftqphrFWsu1gRAXJOKQfouY= =Lnkp -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 29/07/2008 06:43 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 29.07.2008 06:43 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] MANLUG (Was: Re: Bug Day)
Tony - I was just loading that site up as that email came through! Actually, just to check, is it manlug.org.uk or .org? I think I know a couple of people for the presentations, but I'd have to check with them first. James Milligan Global Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Business Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Private Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website:www.lake54.com -Original Message- From: Tony Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 July 2008 13:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bug Day James, James Milligan wrote: I only wish that there was something further north (near/in Manchester) and a bit more relaxed - I'm 15, interested in Linux etc, but I don't really want to be talking about code and the command prompt all day lol, just want to get to know people who also use it. Are you aware of the MANLUG meetings? Check out www.manlug.org for details. We seem to be short of speakers recently so if you know anyone who could give an interesting Linux related presentation, let me know! Regards, Tony. James Milligan Global Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Business Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Private Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website:www.lake54.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Levin Sent: 29 July 2008 12:51 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bug Day Alan Pope wrote: Hi, Having asked around members of the Ubuntu UK community there has been quite a luke warm response to the idea of a bug jam (global one scheduled for 8th-10th August). I thought there might be something like 30-50 people interested in attending a physical event, but after discussion it seems that 10 is a more realistic figure. 10 people can be manageable, more so than 30 (looking on the bright side). I'm up for such an event. August is also a tricky month. Many people are on holiday, kids are off school, and generally people have their minds on other things. Traditionally many LUGs have lower turnouts at meetings in August than other months. Could leave it til September, after the holiday season. If a LUG is having a meet on that day then it might be good to turn up to that, and do the bug jamming there. The other option that is worth considering is the Pembury pub in London. We could go there on either Sat or Sun or both during the day. They have Wifi and plenty of space to set out laptops and jam. Local to me so I'll vote for the Pembury. Friendly, free software users, good beer. Very happy to check all their barrels for bugs. Am wondering if the good burghers of Hackney will be doing Sunday lunch though; Saturday during the day might be better. John -- Tony Arnold,Tel: +44 (0) 161 275 6093 Head of IT Security,Fax: +44 (0) 870 136 1004 University of Manchester, Mob: +44 (0) 773 330 0039 Manchester M13 9PL. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 29/07/2008 06:43 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 29.07.2008 06:43 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] MANLUG (Was: Re: Bug Day)
Just realised they are the same in effect - .org links to .org.uk James Milligan Global Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Business Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Private Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website:www.lake54.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Milligan Sent: 29 July 2008 13:36 To: 'Tony Arnold'; 'British Ubuntu Talk' Subject: [ubuntu-uk] MANLUG (Was: Re: Bug Day) Tony - I was just loading that site up as that email came through! Actually, just to check, is it manlug.org.uk or .org? I think I know a couple of people for the presentations, but I'd have to check with them first. James Milligan Global Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Business Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Private Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website:www.lake54.com -Original Message- From: Tony Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 July 2008 13:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bug Day James, James Milligan wrote: I only wish that there was something further north (near/in Manchester) and a bit more relaxed - I'm 15, interested in Linux etc, but I don't really want to be talking about code and the command prompt all day lol, just want to get to know people who also use it. Are you aware of the MANLUG meetings? Check out www.manlug.org for details. We seem to be short of speakers recently so if you know anyone who could give an interesting Linux related presentation, let me know! Regards, Tony. James Milligan Global Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Business Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Private Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website:www.lake54.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Levin Sent: 29 July 2008 12:51 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bug Day Alan Pope wrote: Hi, Having asked around members of the Ubuntu UK community there has been quite a luke warm response to the idea of a bug jam (global one scheduled for 8th-10th August). I thought there might be something like 30-50 people interested in attending a physical event, but after discussion it seems that 10 is a more realistic figure. 10 people can be manageable, more so than 30 (looking on the bright side). I'm up for such an event. August is also a tricky month. Many people are on holiday, kids are off school, and generally people have their minds on other things. Traditionally many LUGs have lower turnouts at meetings in August than other months. Could leave it til September, after the holiday season. If a LUG is having a meet on that day then it might be good to turn up to that, and do the bug jamming there. The other option that is worth considering is the Pembury pub in London. We could go there on either Sat or Sun or both during the day. They have Wifi and plenty of space to set out laptops and jam. Local to me so I'll vote for the Pembury. Friendly, free software users, good beer. Very happy to check all their barrels for bugs. Am wondering if the good burghers of Hackney will be doing Sunday lunch though; Saturday during the day might be better. John -- Tony Arnold,Tel: +44 (0) 161 275 6093 Head of IT Security,Fax: +44 (0) 870 136 1004 University of Manchester, Mob: +44 (0) 773 330 0039 Manchester M13 9PL. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 29/07/2008 06:43 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 29.07.2008 06:43 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 29/07/2008 06:43 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 29.07.2008 06:43 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bug Day
Hi, I'm still interested! How about you nail down the plans Popey by adding it to the wiki (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GlobalBugJam). I'll see you wherever it is. Ciarán -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dual booting (Was: Re: Bug Day)
2008/7/29 James Milligan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Can I use a USB external HDD? If I could, would there be a noticeable difference in performance? Also got no problems with backing up, got plenty of storage ;-) Hi James, Welcome to the list. An external HDD is perfectly usable, although it will be a bit slower - whether or not you notice it will depend on which version of USB you're using (USB 2 is best), and how much you're using the hard disc. I've not tried it, but I imagine it will be similar to using the LiveCD - starting programs might be noticeably slower but using them should be fairly quick. Otherwise, I second Stephen's suggestion of using WUBI. This is like a virtual machine in that it uses a large file on the Windows partition to store the Ubuntu data, but you choose which OS to run when you boot the PC (like a normal dual-boot setup). If you decide to get rid of it, take a trip to Windows' Add/Remove Programs applet. OT: isn't it funny how Windows users only use that applet to remove programs, whereas it actually does what it says under Ubuntu! Hwyl, Neil. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Compiz Fusion stopped working
I've just noticed that my compiz fusion special effects have stopped working. The cube doesn't turn when I change desktops, or when I click and drag; the windows aren't wobbly; if I hit CTRL the cursor is highlighted but with solid rings rather than a graduated ring. The settings still seem OK, I haven't made any system changes, the only updates are the ones that have come through the normal updates, and I don't remember seeing compiz (though I may have missed it as I don't always remember to read all the updates included). My video card is nVidia, I haven't changed the driver, and there are no other video problems. PC memory seems to be OK. I'm using Ubuntu 8.04, compiz 1.0.7.4 (which is the latest according to Synaptic, although I think there's a later one on the compiz site). I've looked at the troubleshooting on various sites, but can't find an answer. I realise this is just eye-candy, but I do miss it! Where can I start to track down the problem? TIA Dianne -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz Fusion stopped working
Hi, Have you tried just turning it back on? System -- Preferences -- Appearance I do remember that Ubuntu will default to metacity, if something goes wrong with Compiz. This is so you still have a usable desktop, although sans beautiful effects. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz Fusion stopped working
It's always the really obvious that I miss - thanks! I've just realised - I let someone use it on my login the other day, and they must have turned it off. Thanks Dianne On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 15:17 +0100, Ciaran Mooney wrote: Hi, Have you tried just turning it back on? System -- Preferences -- Appearance I do remember that Ubuntu will default to metacity, if something goes wrong with Compiz. This is so you still have a usable desktop, although sans beautiful effects. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz Fusion stopped working
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 15:04 +0100, Dianne Reuby wrote: I've just noticed that my compiz fusion special effects have stopped working. The cube doesn't turn when I change desktops, or when I click and drag; the windows aren't wobbly; if I hit CTRL the cursor is highlighted but with solid rings rather than a graduated ring. The settings still seem OK, I haven't made any system changes, the only updates are the ones that have come through the normal updates, and I don't remember seeing compiz (though I may have missed it as I don't always remember to read all the updates included). When you get certain kernel updates (ABI bumps) the modules need to be recompiled. There is every attempt made to make sure these are done in sync for the stable release, but sometimes you don't get all of the packages installed at once. Could you check that you have the correct modules package installed, via something like dpkg -l linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) (this checks that the linux-restricted-modules package, which contains the nvidia kernel bits, that matches your currently running kernel is installed) Thanks, James -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dual booting (Was: Re: Bug Day)
Thanks for your reply I asked my Dad before, and I'm actually incredibly surprised, as he said yes to installing Ubuntu (fully! Not just WUBI etc) Is it ok to follow the guide at http://apcmag.com/how_to_dualboot_vista_with_linux_vista_installed_first.htm ? Mainly just checking that there aren't any major flaws with it etc. Also, can someone advise me on a Windows program that can partition my drive more effectively than the built-in one with Windows? I've got a ~300 GB HDD, 293 is registering (that's pretty much normal), I've got ~65 GB free, but can only create a new partition of 2GB (shrinking the main partition by 2GB, therefore expanding unused space). To your OT point - incredibly true - I've never once gone to Add/Remove programs to install /anything/ - and that's saying something, 'cause I help loads of people with Windows - even work in a computer shop, which means I come in contact with XP and Vista a lot, although I haven't seen any Vista boxes come in yet... Assuming everything goes well, I could be using Ubuntu by the end of tomorrow! James Milligan Global Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Business Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Private Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website:www.lake54.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neil Greenwood Sent: 29 July 2008 14:55 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dual booting (Was: Re: Bug Day) 2008/7/29 James Milligan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Can I use a USB external HDD? If I could, would there be a noticeable difference in performance? Also got no problems with backing up, got plenty of storage ;-) Hi James, Welcome to the list. An external HDD is perfectly usable, although it will be a bit slower - whether or not you notice it will depend on which version of USB you're using (USB 2 is best), and how much you're using the hard disc. I've not tried it, but I imagine it will be similar to using the LiveCD - starting programs might be noticeably slower but using them should be fairly quick. Otherwise, I second Stephen's suggestion of using WUBI. This is like a virtual machine in that it uses a large file on the Windows partition to store the Ubuntu data, but you choose which OS to run when you boot the PC (like a normal dual-boot setup). If you decide to get rid of it, take a trip to Windows' Add/Remove Programs applet. OT: isn't it funny how Windows users only use that applet to remove programs, whereas it actually does what it says under Ubuntu! Hwyl, Neil. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 29/07/2008 06:43 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 29.07.2008 06:43 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dual booting (Was: Re: Bug Day)
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 4:05 PM, James Milligan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for your reply I asked my Dad before, and I'm actually incredibly surprised, as he said yes to installing Ubuntu (fully! Not just WUBI etc) Is it ok to follow the guide at http://apcmag.com/how_to_dualboot_vista_with_linux_vista_installed_first.htm ? Mainly just checking that there aren't any major flaws with it etc. The stage Page 2 - Get started - prepare the Vista partition isn't really required, as this is possible through the Ubuntu installer (see below). The stage Page 4 - Choose a bootloader isn't generally necessary, as the Ubuntu bootloader (GRUB) works fine. Feel free to use the Windows one if you have a specific requirement etc. I'm not sure this walk-through guide is necessary. To install Ubuntu, you basically plonk the CD in, reboot, click 'Install' and follow the instructions :-) Also, can someone advise me on a Windows program that can partition my drive more effectively than the built-in one with Windows? I've got a ~300 GB HDD, 293 is registering (that's pretty much normal), I've got ~65 GB free, but can only create a new partition of 2GB (shrinking the main partition by 2GB, therefore expanding unused space). snip There is a partition editor as part of the Ubuntu live CD - in the menu System-Administration-Partition Manager. It will also give you the opportunity to resize your current partitions when you go to install Ubuntu. In the past, I've always just used the Ubuntu-installed partition manager. Enjoy :-) Kris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dual booting (Was: Re: Bug Day)
James Milligan wrote: Also, can someone advise me on a Windows program that can partition my drive more effectively than the built-in one with Windows? I've got a ~300 GB HDD, 293 is registering (that's pretty much normal), I've got ~65 GB free, but can only create a new partition of 2GB (shrinking the main partition by 2GB, therefore expanding unused space). I would be very suspicious about this. It may be that somehow there are non movable items near the end of the drive, I do not know much about that stuff. I did find one (only) drive which could not be shrunk for some weird reason. Wubi would be ok for this case anyway, but it is not very robust with power failures (or I guess forced power downs). -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 Linux user #360648 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ISPs
All this correspondence has caused me to wonder whether I am getting the most economical deal commensurate with reliability of supply. I do not use broadband a great down apart from the downloading of Ubuntu updates some Google research and the odd bit of on line buying. I have no one nearby to whom I can turn for advice so I am dependant on what I can read. Could some kind person suggest a good place to find real comparisons between different suppliers and also tell me how I can calculate my monthly usage in GB? Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ISPs
For bandwidth monitoring you could use a program that can handle SNMP like nagios. 2008/7/29 norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] All this correspondence has caused me to wonder whether I am getting the most economical deal commensurate with reliability of supply. I do not use broadband a great down apart from the downloading of Ubuntu updates some Google research and the odd bit of on line buying. I have no one nearby to whom I can turn for advice so I am dependant on what I can read. Could some kind person suggest a good place to find real comparisons between different suppliers and also tell me how I can calculate my monthly usage in GB? Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ISPs
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Chris Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James wrote: What's the full URL for UKFSN then, please? http://www.ukfsn.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- Steve When one person suffers from a delusion it is insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion. 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dual booting (Was: Re: Bug Day)
I'm actually going to install Ubuntu Studio - this is more suited for me personally, because I do a lot of graphic design work. I'm hoping it's the same install process as the normal distro - any advice? Thanks James Milligan Global Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Business Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Private Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website:www.lake54.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of alan c Sent: 29 July 2008 17:12 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dual booting (Was: Re: Bug Day) James Milligan wrote: Also, can someone advise me on a Windows program that can partition my drive more effectively than the built-in one with Windows? I've got a ~300 GB HDD, 293 is registering (that's pretty much normal), I've got ~65 GB free, but can only create a new partition of 2GB (shrinking the main partition by 2GB, therefore expanding unused space). I would be very suspicious about this. It may be that somehow there are non movable items near the end of the drive, I do not know much about that stuff. I did find one (only) drive which could not be shrunk for some weird reason. Wubi would be ok for this case anyway, but it is not very robust with power failures (or I guess forced power downs). -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 Linux user #360648 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 29/07/2008 06:43 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 29.07.2008 06:43 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dual booting (Was: Re: Bug Day)
alan c wrote: James Milligan wrote: Also, can someone advise me on a Windows program that can partition my drive more effectively than the built-in one with Windows? I've got a ~300 GB HDD, 293 is registering (that's pretty much normal), I've got ~65 GB free, but can only create a new partition of 2GB (shrinking the main partition by 2GB, therefore expanding unused space). I would be very suspicious about this. It may be that somehow there are non movable items near the end of the drive, I do not know much about that stuff. I did find one (only) drive which could not be shrunk for some weird reason. Wubi would be ok for this case anyway, but it is not very robust with power failures (or I guess forced power downs). Not sure what's going on with this drive, but isn't it generally a good idea to defrag a WinXP drive before trying to install a dual boot? Might be a good idea to do that, James. Mac -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bug Day
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:11:07 +0100, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Having asked around members of the Ubuntu UK community there has been quite a luke warm response to the idea of a bug jam (global one scheduled for 8th-10th August). The reception to these things does seemed to have warmed a little recently... The other option that is worth considering is the Pembury pub in London. We could go there on either Sat or Sun or both during the day. They have Wifi and plenty of space to set out laptops and jam. Discuss... Cheers, Al. Having checked the train times (and costs) I'm not adverse to the Saturday (quite up for it in fact). I'm helping the missus at a car boot on the sunday, so wouldn't be able to attend then. -Matt Daubney -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dual booting (Was: Re: Bug Day)
Thanks Mac - I'm just literally about to go to the install PC and install Ubuntu (Studio) - I will follow your advice (shouldn't take long, there isn't much on it). James Milligan Global Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Business Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Private Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website:www.lake54.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Sent: 29 July 2008 18:51 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dual booting (Was: Re: Bug Day) alan c wrote: James Milligan wrote: Also, can someone advise me on a Windows program that can partition my drive more effectively than the built-in one with Windows? I've got a ~300 GB HDD, 293 is registering (that's pretty much normal), I've got ~65 GB free, but can only create a new partition of 2GB (shrinking the main partition by 2GB, therefore expanding unused space). I would be very suspicious about this. It may be that somehow there are non movable items near the end of the drive, I do not know much about that stuff. I did find one (only) drive which could not be shrunk for some weird reason. Wubi would be ok for this case anyway, but it is not very robust with power failures (or I guess forced power downs). Not sure what's going on with this drive, but isn't it generally a good idea to defrag a WinXP drive before trying to install a dual boot? Might be a good idea to do that, James. Mac -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 29/07/2008 06:43 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 29.07.2008 06:43 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dual booting (Was: Re: Bug Day)
On 29/07/2008, James Milligan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Mac - I'm just literally about to go to the install PC and install Ubuntu (Studio) - I will follow your advice (shouldn't take long, there isn't much on it). Hi James, As others have said the install should go fine, but should you experience any problems or have any questions you can always come along to a manlug meeting (and even bring the PC) and there will be someone around happy to help you out. Lucy -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] OT: Good Laptop Brands for Linux?
I thought I'd ask here if you dont mind, but does anyone have any recommendations on which laptop brands I should go for and which I should avoid? Any help appreciated. Michael Holmes -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dual booting (Was: Re: Bug Day)
Thanks Lucy - I'm just waiting for XP SP3 to download and install (still waiting... still waiting...) I can't wait to get Ubuntu on and use the thing - 'cos it is so much better than windows (apart from support of mainstream gaming, but I'm not /really/ that bothered about that, cos I need Vista for other stuff anyway) Hopefully after it's installed, I can get it on my main PC, and therefore use it more and more. Thanks to everybody who's helped so far - I wouldn't have gotten to this stage if it hadn't have been for you! James Milligan Global Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Business Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Private Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website:www.lake54.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lucy Sent: 29 July 2008 19:56 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dual booting (Was: Re: Bug Day) On 29/07/2008, James Milligan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Mac - I'm just literally about to go to the install PC and install Ubuntu (Studio) - I will follow your advice (shouldn't take long, there isn't much on it). Hi James, As others have said the install should go fine, but should you experience any problems or have any questions you can always come along to a manlug meeting (and even bring the PC) and there will be someone around happy to help you out. Lucy -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 29/07/2008 06:43 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 29.07.2008 06:43 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: Good Laptop Brands for Linux?
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Michael Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I thought I'd ask here if you dont mind, but does anyone have any recommendations on which laptop brands I should go for and which I should avoid? Any help appreciated. Michael Holmes -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ Generally anything that uses all intel chips should work well. IBM/lenovo have been traditionally the best, but Dell are pretty good now. Mj -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: Good Laptop Brands for Linux?
In general, don't get a HP laptop - in the repair store I work in, we get a lot of HP laptops that have become faulty. Dell are good, but Alienware aren't as good as they look - again, we get a lot of Alienware desktops - the build quality is awful (nice cases though...) You could try an Asus EeePC - I have a 4G 701 - it's really good! _ James Milligan Global Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Business Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Private Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website:www.lake54.com http://www.lake54.com/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Holmes Sent: 29 July 2008 20:00 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: [ubuntu-uk] OT: Good Laptop Brands for Linux? I thought I'd ask here if you dont mind, but does anyone have any recommendations on which laptop brands I should go for and which I should avoid? Any help appreciated. Michael Holmes No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 29/07/2008 06:43 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 29.07.2008 06:43 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: Good Laptop Brands for Linux?
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 20:00 +0100, Michael Holmes wrote: I thought I'd ask here if you dont mind, but does anyone have any recommendations on which laptop brands I should go for and which I should avoid? Any help appreciated. Michael Holmes If you get one try and go for all intel. They seem to function better on the whole. The dell laptop for 300 quid works really well (My wife has one). -- Seek That Thy Might Know signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Digital Freedom in Education Youth - North West :: August Meeting
DFEY-NW[1] (Digital Freedom in Education Youth - North West), the North West of England's first group focusing on young people and issues of freedom in the digital world is looking forward to it's first meeting EVER in August. - | What is DFEY-NW | - DFEY-NW is a group formed in response from a growing need in the Northwest of England for a Group to encourage and promote young people's involvement with the free software community by creating a social space to make it more comfortable for young people to get involved with GLUGs and FSUGs. --- | Meeting | --- To get things started, it has been suggested that the first meeting should be used to work out: 1) what projects[2] we wish to undertake 2) what we can do to get more free software into education 3) what we should do in future meetings It has been suggested that we should work closely with local GLUGs and FSUGs and similar groups, to help young people be given the help and respect needed to encourage them into the community. | When | To find out what the best date is for those interested to meet, a poll has been created: http://is.gd/17IS Please fill it in and indicate which dates are best for you. - | Where | - What do you think? Where is convenient for you? What do you suggest? My suggestion would be somewhere in Manchester, but I would be very interested about suggestions of venues from other locations. Venues in Manchester: I'm happy to contact the MDDA[3] who have been very welcoming to Manchester Free Software Group in the past, though they like people to book sooner rather than later. Many of the other popular venues (such as Fab Cafe, Rain Bar, The Britons Protection, the Water House) are pubs/bars which some people may feel uncomfortable or have problems being in, though the Corner House may be an option which is not likely to cause problems. Anyone have any better ideas? Feedback is crucial here. :) --- | Contact | --- We have a Mailing list: http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dfey-nw-discuss and a forum interface: http://dfey.freedomdreams.co.uk/wiki/Forum We also are on IRC at #dfey on irc.freenode.net There is also a web interface if you haven't mastered IRC yet: http://dfey.freedomdreams.co.uk/wiki/Chat --- Looking forward to your suggestions, Tim Dobson DFEY-NW Co-Organiser --- [1] http://dfey.freedomdreams.co.uk [2] http://dfey.freedomdreams.co.uk/wiki/Talk:Main_Page [3] http://www.manchesterdda.com -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw -- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dual booting (Was: Re: Bug Day)
On 29/07/2008, James Milligan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Lucy - I'm just waiting for XP SP3 to download and install (still waiting... still waiting...) I can't wait to get Ubuntu on and use the thing - 'cos it is so much better than windows (apart from support of mainstream gaming, but I'm not /really/ that bothered about that, cos I need Vista for other stuff anyway) Hopefully after it's installed, I can get it on my main PC, and therefore use it more and more. Great. Good luck :) One thing that I found useful in making the transition was to set Linux as the default option in grub (I think this might be done automatically nowadays anyway), so that even when I just needed to quickly check a web page I was using Linux. The more that you use it, even if you're just using firefox, the more opportunity you will have to learn. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: Good Laptop Brands for Linux?
Michael Holmes wrote: I thought I'd ask here if you dont mind, but does anyone have any recommendations on which laptop brands I should go for and which I should avoid? Any help appreciated. Michael Holmes From experience, Dell's are pretty good if you get one with Intel Wireless (my old Dell Latitude D610 worked perfectly). You might want to look at the Dell Inspiron 1525 (I think it is), do a search on Dell's web site for Ubuntu and you should find it. My other half and my dad both have IBM Thinkpad R50e Notebooks, they both run fine with Ubuntu. I'm still trying to decide what to get (I'm leaning towards HP, Acer or Dell) but I won't be ordering a laptop for a week or so, but when I do I'll post a mini review. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Digital Freedom in Education Youth - North West ::August Meeting
Great timing - I'm looking for a 'young' LUG in the NW - I've checked the dates I should be available, and put them on the poll Thanks for the opportunity as well. James Milligan Global Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Business Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Private Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website:www.lake54.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Dobson Sent: 29 July 2008 20:10 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Digital Freedom in Education Youth - North West ::August Meeting DFEY-NW[1] (Digital Freedom in Education Youth - North West), the North West of England's first group focusing on young people and issues of freedom in the digital world is looking forward to it's first meeting EVER in August. - | What is DFEY-NW | - DFEY-NW is a group formed in response from a growing need in the Northwest of England for a Group to encourage and promote young people's involvement with the free software community by creating a social space to make it more comfortable for young people to get involved with GLUGs and FSUGs. --- | Meeting | --- To get things started, it has been suggested that the first meeting should be used to work out: 1) what projects[2] we wish to undertake 2) what we can do to get more free software into education 3) what we should do in future meetings It has been suggested that we should work closely with local GLUGs and FSUGs and similar groups, to help young people be given the help and respect needed to encourage them into the community. | When | To find out what the best date is for those interested to meet, a poll has been created: http://is.gd/17IS Please fill it in and indicate which dates are best for you. - | Where | - What do you think? Where is convenient for you? What do you suggest? My suggestion would be somewhere in Manchester, but I would be very interested about suggestions of venues from other locations. Venues in Manchester: I'm happy to contact the MDDA[3] who have been very welcoming to Manchester Free Software Group in the past, though they like people to book sooner rather than later. Many of the other popular venues (such as Fab Cafe, Rain Bar, The Britons Protection, the Water House) are pubs/bars which some people may feel uncomfortable or have problems being in, though the Corner House may be an option which is not likely to cause problems. Anyone have any better ideas? Feedback is crucial here. :) --- | Contact | --- We have a Mailing list: http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dfey-nw-discuss and a forum interface: http://dfey.freedomdreams.co.uk/wiki/Forum We also are on IRC at #dfey on irc.freenode.net There is also a web interface if you haven't mastered IRC yet: http://dfey.freedomdreams.co.uk/wiki/Chat --- Looking forward to your suggestions, Tim Dobson DFEY-NW Co-Organiser --- [1] http://dfey.freedomdreams.co.uk [2] http://dfey.freedomdreams.co.uk/wiki/Talk:Main_Page [3] http://www.manchesterdda.com -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw -- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 29/07/2008 06:43 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 29.07.2008 06:43 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bug Day
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 matt wrote: | | | | The other option that is worth considering is the Pembury pub in London. | We | could go there on either Sat or Sun or both during the day. They have | Wifi | and plenty of space to set out laptops and jam. | | Discuss... | | Cheers, | Al. | | Having checked the train times (and costs) I'm not adverse to the | Saturday (quite up for it in fact). I'm helping the missus at a car boot on | the sunday, so wouldn't be able to attend then. | I'm interested! Saturday would be better for me, normally head to church on a Sunday :) Prefer anywhere within london, preferably south-west ish way (London Victoria ish), but not too fussed if its elsewhere, as long its a tube-able journey :) Johnathon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIj3hl81bUwCB/xdgRAnkxAKCHttWnXVYAltNxOV8bTgQAHHWctwCg6WA8 9K9nT1e4EObUS6k9i972oA8= =Nr6A -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Digital Freedom in Education Youth - North West ::August Meeting
James Milligan wrote: Great timing - I'm looking for a 'young' LUG in the NW - I've checked the dates I should be available, and put them on the poll Thanks for the opportunity as well. Excellent! I look forward to seeing you there! :) Tim -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] HP ProLiant ML110 G5 - Compatibility
Hi folks, I'm looking at a HP ProLiant ML110 G5 server, and want to install Ubuntu Hardy onto it. It's got an on-board 6 channel SATA RAID controller. I planned to attach a couple of 140GB SATA drives to it in a RAID 1 configuration. Does anyone know if Hardy supports this? Cheers Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ISPs
For bandwidth monitoring you could use a program that can handle SNMP like nagios. Isn't Nagios overkill for something like this? Typing these just before powering down the PC would save the date and the amount of traffic for that session in a text file: date +%F net_traffic.txt ifconfig | grep -m 1 RX bytes net_traffic.txt But this is incredibly ugly. Maybe someone could post a better command, and which file to put it in to have it executed automatically at shutdown? -- Richard -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dual booting (Was: Re: Bug Day)
One thing that I found useful in making the transition was to set Linux as the default option in grub (I think this might be done automatically nowadays anyway) Ubuntu will be set to be the default. If your dad gets annoyed at having to catch the Grub menu every boot in order to run Windows, it's possible to edit grub.conf to make Windows the default - this might help the parent acceptance factor :-) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
