Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the BBC!!!

2009-10-27 Thread Philip Stubbs
2009/10/21 James Milligan lak...@lake54.com:
 Did anyone else watch BBC News this morning?

 Whilst showing off Windows 7, the tech correspondent showed a Mac with
 Safari open on ubuntu.com

 Didn't actually mention the name etc, but said about other OSes.

 James

I have not had time to read it yet,

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8326264.stm?ls

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[ubuntu-uk] Good old Dell!

2009-10-27 Thread mac
You may already have spotted this:

* Dell unveils exclusive Microsoft-branded Ubuntu OS
Mix up a penguin
 
http://go.theregister.com/news/http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/26/dell_linux_windows_ubuntu/

Good old Dell.  With friends like this...   ;-)

mac


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the BBC!!!

2009-10-27 Thread Lucy
2009/10/27 Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk:
 2009/10/21 James Milligan lak...@lake54.com:
 Did anyone else watch BBC News this morning?

 Whilst showing off Windows 7, the tech correspondent showed a Mac with
 Safari open on ubuntu.com

 Didn't actually mention the name etc, but said about other OSes.

 James

 I have not had time to read it yet,

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8326264.stm?ls

It's good. There's a 3 minute interview with someone from Canonical.
Would have been nicer if it'd been a little bit longer. They just
about explained what open source was and gave a tour of the OS. It was
also mentioned that you couldn't run Windows or Mac OS programs on it,
but didn't mention that there are usually equivalent programs
available (while it's a good thing to say, I don't remember such a big
emphasis when Macs are discussed). Unfortunately, I think Ubuntu
looked a little sad on screen compared to the latest shiney Windows
release; I'm looking forward to an improved default theme and a revamp
of Gnome.

I'm thinking we should invite BBC people to the many launch parties
that are happening this week! Theydo  seem to be really trying to be
balanced and informative.

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[ubuntu-uk] Bad video performance

2009-10-27 Thread Paul Webster
Hi
My laptop (Celeron M 1.4, 750 MB of RAM) ran YouTube videos, etc., fine
under Windows XP. Now, under Jaunty - which is otherwise great - videos are
just a blurry, slowly stuttering mess.

Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance

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[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the BBC!

2009-10-27 Thread Gordon
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8327082.stm


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the BBC!!!

2009-10-27 Thread Sean Miller
I agree about the theme... why can't Ubuntu install something that is
at least slightly pleasant on the eye??

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the BBC!

2009-10-27 Thread Sean Miller
Why do none of these programmes ever mention Wine?

It's simply not true that you can't run Microsoft programs on Ubuntu
-- is the BBC sponsored by Apple and Microsoft or what???

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the BBC!

2009-10-27 Thread Sean Miller
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net wrote:
 Why do none of these programmes ever mention Wine?

Come to think of it, why isn't Wine installed by default??

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the BBC!!!

2009-10-27 Thread Daniel Drummond
Lucy wrote:
 2009/10/27 Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk:
   
 2009/10/21 James Milligan lak...@lake54.com:
 
 Did anyone else watch BBC News this morning?

 Whilst showing off Windows 7, the tech correspondent showed a Mac with
 Safari open on ubuntu.com

 Didn't actually mention the name etc, but said about other OSes.

 James
   
 I have not had time to read it yet,

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8326264.stm?ls
 

 It's good. There's a 3 minute interview with someone from Canonical.
 Would have been nicer if it'd been a little bit longer. They just
 about explained what open source was and gave a tour of the OS. It was
 also mentioned that you couldn't run Windows or Mac OS programs on it,
 but didn't mention that there are usually equivalent programs
 available (while it's a good thing to say, I don't remember such a big
 emphasis when Macs are discussed). Unfortunately, I think Ubuntu
 looked a little sad on screen compared to the latest shiney Windows
 release; I'm looking forward to an improved default theme and a revamp
 of Gnome.

 I'm thinking we should invite BBC people to the many launch parties
 that are happening this week! Theydo  seem to be really trying to be
 balanced and informative.

   
If that guy was from Canonical, perhaps they should think about retraining:-

/For the first time in 20 years you can buy Ubuntu pre-installed from 
more than one manufacturer, he said. That's an extraordinary story.

/A stupid statement considering Ubuntu hasn't been around for 20 years.

and

/Some of the security is through obscurity but it's also better by 
design, he said./


Just doesn't make sense at all.  Surely as it is an open-source system, 
there is no obscurity.  I think he means to say that Ubuntu is a smaller 
target for crackers than some others.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the BBC!!!

2009-10-27 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 27/10/09 08:13, Daniel Drummond wrote:
snip /
 If that guy was from Canonical, perhaps they should think about retraining:-

 /For the first time in 20 years you can buy Ubuntu pre-installed from
 more than one manufacturer, he said. That's an extraordinary story.

 /A stupid statement considering Ubuntu hasn't been around for 20 years.

Nit picking is not really helpful. GNU/Linux has been around for that long.

 and

 /Some of the security is through obscurity but it's also better by
 design, he said./

 Just doesn't make sense at all.  Surely as it is an open-source system,
 there is no obscurity.  I think he means to say that Ubuntu is a smaller
 target for crackers than some others.

Thinking about the audience for this perhaps it could have been phrased 
better but it is a very encouraging sign. That's the first time I've 
*ever* seen a Linux distro get mainstream coverage in a positive rather 
than derogatory light.

Chris does work for Canonical. He's in charge of OEM deals worldwide and 
is quite senior in the company.

Al


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[ubuntu-uk] Hull LUG's Ubuntu Release Party - 31st Oct

2009-10-27 Thread Dave Walker
Hi,

I've been asked to forward this message, it's looking like we are going
to have some great release parties!

Kind Regards,
Dave Walker

**

I just want to let you know and remind you about Hull LUG's Ubuntu
release party which is taking place this Saturday 31st October 2009,
in the Old Grey Mare, 193 Cottingham Road, Hull (Opposite Hull
University Campus).

This will be the first Ubuntu release party that we've hosted (in fact
one of the first to be held outside London). The LUG's geeks (as well
as the LUG’s ordinary users) will be on hand to demonstrate and show
off the new version of Ubuntu, as well as swap tips and hacks with
you. There will be a variety of hardware on display to show the
versatility of Ubuntu, and to allow people to have a ‘tinker’.

The usability of Ubuntu (and Linux) will be fully demonstrated as we
will be demonstrating how to breathe new life into old hardware when
they install Ubuntu 9.10 onto a very old desktop, and get it hooked up
to the internet during the course of the afternoon. For anyone
wanting to try Ubuntu for themselves, free installation discs will be
available for people to take home.

The party will be going on until at least 5pm, after that there will
be a few of us hanging around and more than willing to talk to anyone
who’ll listen about the wonders of Ubuntu, Linux, as well as free 
open source software in general.

Of course the event is not all down to Hull LUG, but also thanks to
Craig and his staff at the Old Grey Mare for their continued support 
for supplying the venue. Also thanks to Paul at Peckhams.com for
providing a mountain of blank cd’s which we're going to magically turn
into Ubuntu 9.10 install discs.

We've had a lot of interest from LUGs around the regions, and it's
looking to be an excellent afternoon, and we'd be really happy for you
all to come along

Regards
Dave

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the BBC!

2009-10-27 Thread Dean Sas
Sean Miller wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net wrote:
 Why do none of these programmes ever mention Wine?
 
 Come to think of it, why isn't Wine installed by default??

I don't know if there are any official reasons, but here are some
possibilities

* It's ugly
* It doesn't always work
* It introduces another method of installing software
* Political: Why write a Linux version of something when you can just
write the Windows software and have it work via wine?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-27 Thread LeeGroups



  
 I also had similar problems. Disabled IPv6 in Firefox. It's very bad 
 that this bug is present so close to release. I hope that this is 
 sorted before Thursday.

 Personally I have found Karmic to be pretty much unusable on both 
 machines I tested it on. :-(
On the other hand, I've installed Karmic on one laptop, a Dell Latitude 
D351, a couple of years old I think.
It installed without any issues, found the wireless card, had a little 
moan about lack of open source drivers and installed a closed source one.
Everything works, 64bit too. The only thing I had to do manually was 
download 64bit Flash and unzip it to the right directory.
Superb.

My only gripe, is that the top toolbar icons look a bit, err, dated...



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the BBC!!!

2009-10-27 Thread Sean Miller
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Alan Lord (News) alansli...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 27/10/09 08:13, Daniel Drummond wrote:
 snip /
 If that guy was from Canonical, perhaps they should think about retraining:-

 /For the first time in 20 years you can buy Ubuntu pre-installed from
 more than one manufacturer, he said. That's an extraordinary story.

 /A stupid statement considering Ubuntu hasn't been around for 20 years.

 Nit picking is not really helpful. GNU/Linux has been around for that long.

Now I'm nit picking... it's actually 18 years since first version of
Linux kernel was released, not 20.  And only 17 since it became
GNU/Linux.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the BBC!!!

2009-10-27 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 27/10/09 08:48, Sean Miller wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Alan Lord (News)alansli...@gmail.com  
 wrote:
 On 27/10/09 08:13, Daniel Drummond wrote:
 snip /
 If that guy was from Canonical, perhaps they should think about retraining:-

 /For the first time in 20 years you can buy Ubuntu pre-installed from
 more than one manufacturer, he said. That's an extraordinary story.

 /A stupid statement considering Ubuntu hasn't been around for 20 years.

 Nit picking is not really helpful. GNU/Linux has been around for that long.

 Now I'm nit picking... it's actually 18 years since first version of
 Linux kernel was released, not 20.  And only 17 since it became
 GNU/Linux.

Nice ;-)




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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the BBC!!!

2009-10-27 Thread Dean Sas
Daniel Drummond wrote:
 2009/10/27 Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk:
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8326264.stm?ls

 /Some of the security is through obscurity but it's also better by 
 design, he said./
 
 
 Just doesn't make sense at all.  Surely as it is an open-source system, 
 there is no obscurity.  I think he means to say that Ubuntu is a smaller 
 target for crackers than some others.

It makes perfect sense, he said exactly what you said he meant to say.

Obscurity doesn't just mean the hidden or opaqueness. It also means
little known.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the BBC!

2009-10-27 Thread Alan Bell
Sean Miller wrote:
 Why do none of these programmes ever mention Wine?

 It's simply not true that you can't run Microsoft programs on Ubuntu
 -- is the BBC sponsored by Apple and Microsoft or what???

 Sean

   
Well I don't think you can blame the BBC for that one. Chris Kenyon is
Canonical's OEM team manager, he most certainly does know about Wine.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-27 Thread Matt Daubney

On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:13:52 +, Chris Rowson
christopherrow...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm trying out karmic, and the networking seems to be broken on both my
 Lenovo N500 laptop and VMWare Fusion virtual machine atop of OS X Snow
 Leopard.

 It claims to be connected, and I can log into my router, but cannot get
 anything through firefox, thunderbird, synaptic etc. The hardware test
 claims to be able to touch the net.

 Can anyone help with diagnosing these problems?

 TIA

 John
 
 I also had similar problems. Disabled IPv6 in Firefox. It's very bad that
 this bug is present so close to release. I hope that this is sorted
before
 Thursday.
 
 Personally I have found Karmic to be pretty much unusable on both
machines
 I
 tested it on. :-(
 
 Chris

I've been running Karmic since about Alpha 5 and had very few problems. The
RC (on the 3 machines I'm running anyway) seems to be quite stable. The
performance improvements are quite startling, especially the boot time on
my laptop. 

If you have found some problems, make sure you report bugs! The next
release is an LTS so should be by far more stable on release.

-Matt Daubney


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-27 Thread Sean Miller
I will only install Karmic again if it promises me it won't tell me my
hard drive is dying.

Jaunty has never done, and if it is dying I'd honestly rather not know.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-27 Thread Matt Daubney


On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:32:49 +, Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net
wrote:
 I will only install Karmic again if it promises me it won't tell me my
 hard drive is dying.
 
 Jaunty has never done, and if it is dying I'd honestly rather not know.
 
 Sean

That's one thing I'd definatley want to know! Make sure your backups are
upto date, and use smartmon to find out what exactley is wrong with it.
Just because something doesn't say there's a problem, doesn't mean it'll go
away!

-Matt Daubney


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-27 Thread John Levin
On 27/10/2009 08:47, LeeGroups wrote:




 I also had similar problems. Disabled IPv6 in Firefox. It's very bad
 that this bug is present so close to release. I hope that this is
 sorted before Thursday.

 Personally I have found Karmic to be pretty much unusable on both
 machines I tested it on. :-(
 On the other hand, I've installed Karmic on one laptop, a Dell Latitude
 D351, a couple of years old I think.
 It installed without any issues, found the wireless card, had a little
 moan about lack of open source drivers and installed a closed source one.
 Everything works, 64bit too. The only thing I had to do manually was
 download 64bit Flash and unzip it to the right directory.
 Superb.

 My only gripe, is that the top toolbar icons look a bit, err, dated...




I've now gone back to Jaunty. This is the first time that any Ubuntu 
version hasn't got online out of the box for me. Very disappointing.

John


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-27 Thread Nick
On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 09:29 +, Matt Daubney wrote:
 On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:13:52 +, Chris Rowson
 christopherrow...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I'm trying out karmic, and the networking seems to be broken on both my
  Lenovo N500 laptop and VMWare Fusion virtual machine atop of OS X Snow
  Leopard.
 
  It claims to be connected, and I can log into my router, but cannot get
  anything through firefox, thunderbird, synaptic etc. The hardware test
  claims to be able to touch the net.
 
  Can anyone help with diagnosing these problems?
 
  TIA
 
  John
  
  I also had similar problems. Disabled IPv6 in Firefox. It's very bad that
  this bug is present so close to release. I hope that this is sorted
 before
  Thursday.
  
  Personally I have found Karmic to be pretty much unusable on both
 machines
  I
  tested it on. :-(
  
  Chris
 
 I've been running Karmic since about Alpha 5 and had very few problems. The
 RC (on the 3 machines I'm running anyway) seems to be quite stable. The
 performance improvements are quite startling, especially the boot time on
 my laptop. 
 
 If you have found some problems, make sure you report bugs! The next
 release is an LTS so should be by far more stable on release.
 
 -Matt Daubney
 
 
+ 1 

Nick Parkinson


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-27 Thread etali
John Levin wrote:
 On 27/10/2009 08:47, LeeGroups wrote:
   


 I've now gone back to Jaunty. This is the first time that any Ubuntu 
 version hasn't got online out of the box for me. Very disappointing.

 John


   
I've only just subscribed to this list.  How long ago did you download 
your Karmic install?  I've been testing Karmic on a spare box and had 
tons of problems getting online with the previous betas, but yesterday I 
downloaded Karmic Final (testing), and it seems to have fixed all my 
problems.



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Good old Dell!

2009-10-27 Thread David King
And Dell cannot even spell. A computer program (not programme) but a TV 
programme.

And of the two pictures, the one for Ubuntu looks like an easier system 
and more attractive.

http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/windows_or_ubuntu?c=ukcs=ukdhs1l=ens=dhs

David King


Sean Miller wrote:
 I hate Dell...

 With an UBUNTU operating system you must use open source programmes:

 * Some open source software requires intermediate or advanced
 technical knowledge to use
 * Most open source programmes are not compatible with Microsoft programmes
 * You will need to learn how to use new programmes

 I've never been told that closed source programmes were banned -
 better uninstall Spotify then.  And since when was open source any
 more complicated than proprietary alternatives?  I find Dreamweaver as
 complex as hell, and last time I looked it wasn't open.

 Sean

   

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-27 Thread Johnathon Tinsley
etali wrote:
 John Levin wrote:
 On 27/10/2009 08:47, LeeGroups wrote:
   
 I've now gone back to Jaunty. This is the first time that any Ubuntu 
 version hasn't got online out of the box for me. Very disappointing.

 John


   
 I've only just subscribed to this list.  How long ago did you download 
 your Karmic install?  I've been testing Karmic on a spare box and had 
 tons of problems getting online with the previous betas, but yesterday I 
 downloaded Karmic Final (testing), and it seems to have fixed all my 
 problems.
 

For some reason, I've been having trouble with DNS resolution since
rebooting onto the RC. I'm having to run sudo dhclient manually, to
force my computer to get an IP address, and load the nameservers.

Might be worth a shot...

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bad video performance

2009-10-27 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/10/27 Paul Webster paulwebbi...@googlemail.com:
 Hi
 My laptop (Celeron M 1.4, 750 MB of RAM) ran YouTube videos, etc., fine
 under Windows XP. Now, under Jaunty - which is otherwise great - videos are
 just a blurry, slowly stuttering mess.

 Any suggestions?

 Thanks in advance

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(Plus, are you sure you want to tell the whole world exactly where you live?)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the BBC!!!

2009-10-27 Thread Rob Beard
Lucy wrote:
 2009/10/27 Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk:
   
 2009/10/21 James Milligan lak...@lake54.com:
 
 Did anyone else watch BBC News this morning?

 Whilst showing off Windows 7, the tech correspondent showed a Mac with
 Safari open on ubuntu.com

 Didn't actually mention the name etc, but said about other OSes.

 James
   
 I have not had time to read it yet,

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8326264.stm?ls
 

 It's good. There's a 3 minute interview with someone from Canonical.
 Would have been nicer if it'd been a little bit longer. They just
 about explained what open source was and gave a tour of the OS. It was
 also mentioned that you couldn't run Windows or Mac OS programs on it,
 but didn't mention that there are usually equivalent programs
 available (while it's a good thing to say, I don't remember such a big
 emphasis when Macs are discussed). Unfortunately, I think Ubuntu
 looked a little sad on screen compared to the latest shiney Windows
 release; I'm looking forward to an improved default theme and a revamp
 of Gnome.

   
Yes, as much as I like the new themes on Ubuntu (and it briefly showed 
Compiz switching desktops) maybe they could have chosen a different 
desktop background.

They also referred to a PC as a Windows PC, and referred to Ubuntu as an 
Ubuntu Computer.  It's almost as if it would make people think they 
needed to buy a whole new computer.  I would have liked it if they had 
mentioned that it will run on a PC or modern Mac alongside your existing 
copy of MacOS X or Windows.

Still it's a start.  I would have liked if they could have mentioned 
that it's possible to get it free from www.ubuntu.com on CD.
 I'm thinking we should invite BBC people to the many launch parties
 that are happening this week! Theydo  seem to be really trying to be
 balanced and informative.
   
Sounds like a good idea.  Later on this week I'm going to be finishing 
off a PC for a local charity which should get some newspaper coverage.  
The PC is running Ubuntu (it'll be running Karmic, it's running 9.04 at 
the moment) and I'm hopefully going to be able to mention that the Devon 
 Cornwall LUG are happy to help folks get Ubuntu installed on their PCs.

Rob


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-27 Thread Chris Rowson

 On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:13:52 +, Chris Rowson
 christopherrow...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I'm trying out karmic, and the networking seems to be broken on both my
  Lenovo N500 laptop and VMWare Fusion virtual machine atop of OS X Snow
  Leopard.
 
  It claims to be connected, and I can log into my router, but cannot get
  anything through firefox, thunderbird, synaptic etc. The hardware test
  claims to be able to touch the net.
 
  Can anyone help with diagnosing these problems?
 
  TIA
 
  John
 
  I also had similar problems. Disabled IPv6 in Firefox. It's very bad that
  this bug is present so close to release. I hope that this is sorted
 before
  Thursday.
 
  Personally I have found Karmic to be pretty much unusable on both
 machines
  I
  tested it on. :-(
 
  Chris

 I've been running Karmic since about Alpha 5 and had very few problems. The
 RC (on the 3 machines I'm running anyway) seems to be quite stable. The
 performance improvements are quite startling, especially the boot time on
 my laptop.

 If you have found some problems, make sure you report bugs! The next
 release is an LTS so should be by far more stable on release.

 -Matt Daubney



I notice that the DNS / potential IPv6 bug has been reported and has loads
of activity against it. Nothing seems to be happening though.

For one laptop after the network / graphics / CPU power management all went
wrong I kinda got a bit fed up lol!

I might sit this release out...

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the BBC!

2009-10-27 Thread Rob Beard
Sean Miller wrote:
 Why do none of these programmes ever mention Wine?

 It's simply not true that you can't run Microsoft programs on Ubuntu
 -- is the BBC sponsored by Apple and Microsoft or what???

 Sean

   
Well wine isn't perfect.  A fair few applications don't work very well 
or not at all, so it's not really a perfect solution.  Dual booting with 
Windows or running Windows in a virtual machine would probably be the 
better solution.

But on the other hand, I guess it is worth mentioning that iTunes works 
on CrossOver (although not owning an iPod, I haven't a clue which 
version works and if it's compatible with the latest iPods and iPhones).

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-27 Thread Rob Beard
Matt Daubney wrote:
 I've been running Karmic since about Alpha 5 and had very few problems. The
 RC (on the 3 machines I'm running anyway) seems to be quite stable. The
 performance improvements are quite startling, especially the boot time on
 my laptop. 

 If you have found some problems, make sure you report bugs! The next
 release is an LTS so should be by far more stable on release.

 -Matt Daubney
   
Same here.  Only big problem I had was with Flash but after a bit of 
Googling I found a fix for that.

I'd say since the Alphas (I think I used Alpha 4 or 5 first) it is 
getting progressively quicker and prettier.  When the full version is 
released I'm going to give my laptop a complete reinstall and probably 
go completely over to ext4 too.

One thing I was wondering though, when I login, Firefox pops up with an 
Ubuntu One/Launchpad login page.  Is there any way of stopping this 
popping up every time?

Rob



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-27 Thread Rob Beard
Sean Miller wrote:
 I will only install Karmic again if it promises me it won't tell me my
 hard drive is dying.

 Jaunty has never done, and if it is dying I'd honestly rather not know.

 Sean

   
Surely it's good to know so you can make sure you have up to date 
backups.  I've just had a 1TB hard drive fail on me, luckily I've 
managed to get it running again to get the important stuff off of it, 
but I didn't have any pre-warnings, and I can't afford the cost of 
professional data recovery so if the drive dies, I'm stuffed unless I 
have a recent backup.

Rob



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-27 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/10/27 Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk:
 One thing I was wondering though, when I login, Firefox pops up with an
 Ubuntu One/Launchpad login page.  Is there any way of stopping this
 popping up every time?

 Rob



You could remove Ubuntu One from the list of Startup Applications, or
remove ubuntu-one completely from the system (using Synaptic or
whatever). Otherwise you could sign up for an Ubuntu One account and
take advantage of the free 2GB backup/sync space!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-27 Thread Daniel Drummond
Rob Beard wrote:
 Sean Miller wrote:
   
 I will only install Karmic again if it promises me it won't tell me my
 hard drive is dying.

 Jaunty has never done, and if it is dying I'd honestly rather not know.

 Sean

   
 
 Surely it's good to know so you can make sure you have up to date 
 backups.  I've just had a 1TB hard drive fail on me, luckily I've 
 managed to get it running again to get the important stuff off of it, 
 but I didn't have any pre-warnings, and I can't afford the cost of 
 professional data recovery so if the drive dies, I'm stuffed unless I 
 have a recent backup.

 Rob



   
This is due to the inclusion of drive monitoring tools in Karmic.  They 
weren't present in Jaunty, which is why you only found out when you 
installed Karmic.  I've had a warning up about one of my drives, but it 
is pretty much brand new, and hasn't been used much.  Looking at the 
report it gave me makes me think it isn't on it's last legs, but the 
values being reported by the hard drive are not very accurate.

On the other hand I *may* have been sold a drive that has been used 
before, in which case I'm a little annoyed.  :-S

Either way just because Jaunty doesn't report the problem, doesn't mean 
it isn't there.  You can disable it if you want to in Karmic.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-27 Thread Rob Beard
Jonathon Fernyhough wrote:
 2009/10/27 Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk:
   
 One thing I was wondering though, when I login, Firefox pops up with an
 Ubuntu One/Launchpad login page.  Is there any way of stopping this
 popping up every time?

 Rob

 

 You could remove Ubuntu One from the list of Startup Applications, or
 remove ubuntu-one completely from the system (using Synaptic or
 whatever). Otherwise you could sign up for an Ubuntu One account and
 take advantage of the free 2GB backup/sync space!

   
I've already signed up for an account, I just can't be bothered to enter 
my login details every time I login.  I'd have thought it would just 
remember the details in the application itself (like how Network Manager 
remembers my wireless network key).

Ahh well, I'll look at disabling it at start up.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the BBC!!!

2009-10-27 Thread Gordon
Thomas Ibbotson wrote:

 -Then you'll have to find those drivers for your hardware (if they 
 exist) and install them,

Actually not so in my experience. MS seems to have tsken a leaf out of
Ubuntu's book. The only driver that did NOT come with Windows 7 for my 2
y/o Toshiba Satellite was my printereverything else justworked!


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the BBC!!!

2009-10-27 Thread Michael Holloway
On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 12:45 +, Gordon wrote:
 Actually not so in my experience. MS seems to have tsken a leaf out of
 Ubuntu's book. The only driver that did NOT come with Windows 7 for my 2
 y/o Toshiba Satellite was my printereverything else justworked!
 

I will second that. Everything worked on my machine from a fresh win7
install.

But I think its worth pointing out that a Win7 installation in 2 years
time will have the same driver problems as Vista/XP now. The reason that
Linux always has good support for drivers is that its updated/released
so often (6 months in Ubuntu's case). If windows was released that often
it would be the same.

Of course, who would be willing to fork out £200 every six months :)
 



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[ubuntu-uk] Samba timeout?

2009-10-27 Thread Liam Wilson
Hey all;

I've set up a nice little home network with my 9.04 laptop and my XP box 
using samba. The only problem I have is that whilst the connection works 
fine after booting up my 9.04 (Which is the client), I can access my 
files on the XP server and vice-versa for about 20-30 minutes, and then 
the connection 'times out' and I cannot access the XP server. It does 
not even show up in Networks!

Is there any possibility to resolve this other than rebooting my 9.04?

Many thanks;

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the BBC!!!

2009-10-27 Thread Dean Sas
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:57, Daniel Drummond dmdrummo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dean Sas wrote:
 Daniel Drummond wrote:

 2009/10/27 Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk:

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8326264.stm?ls



 /Some of the security is through obscurity but it's also better by
 design, he said./


 Just doesn't make sense at all.  Surely as it is an open-source system,
 there is no obscurity.  I think he means to say that Ubuntu is a smaller
 target for crackers than some others.


 It makes perfect sense, he said exactly what you said he meant to say.

 Obscurity doesn't just mean the hidden or opaqueness. It also means
 little known.

 An unfortunate choice of phrase though, considering the negative
 connotations it has with respect to security.

Perhaps, I'm not sure that the one sentence mention of open source
software followed by obscurity four paragraphs later will make BBCs
general audience think about security and open vs closed software.

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[ubuntu-uk] Samba Timeout?

2009-10-27 Thread Liam Wilson
Hey all;

I've set up a nice little home network with my 9.04 laptop and my XP box
using samba. The only problem I have is that whilst the connection works
fine after booting up my 9.04 (Which is the client), I can access my files
on the XP server and vice-versa for about 20-30 minutes, and then the
connection 'times out' and I cannot access the XP server. It does not even
show up in Networks!

Is there any possibility to resolve this other than rebooting my 9.04?

Many thanks;
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Samba Timeout?

2009-10-27 Thread Paul Roach
On the XP Box, right click on My Computer, and then select Manage.

In there you should be able to see Shared Folders and Sessions.  Check that
the number of sessions does not exceed 10 - as I've seen smbclient not
release connections previously, and XP will only allow 10 concurrent
connections


On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Liam Wilson liamwilso...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey all;

 I've set up a nice little home network with my 9.04 laptop and my XP box
 using samba. The only problem I have is that whilst the connection works
 fine after booting up my 9.04 (Which is the client), I can access my files
 on the XP server and vice-versa for about 20-30 minutes, and then the
 connection 'times out' and I cannot access the XP server. It does not even
 show up in Networks!

 Is there any possibility to resolve this other than rebooting my 9.04?

 Many thanks;
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[ubuntu-uk] Mention on SitePoint

2009-10-27 Thread James Milligan
For anyone who is signed up to the SitePoint newsletter, you may have just
received an article on how to set up your own virtualized dev server on a
Windows PC, using Ubuntu Server 9.04

Here's the link (HTML) for anyone who is interested:

http://www.sitepoint.com/newsletter/viewissue.php?id=3issue=263format=html

James

James Milligan
Cameraman and Technical Writer
lak...@lake54.com
www.lake54.com

This email has been scanned by AVG security software, and declared safe to
send. This does not mean that the email is 100% clean. It is always
recommended to scan incoming and outgoing emails yourself. I am not
responsible for any damage or loss caused through malware transmitted in my
emails.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 
Version: 9.0.698 / Virus Database: 270.14.34/2462 - Release Date: 10/27/09
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Samba Timeout?

2009-10-27 Thread Liam Wilson
Yeah, I clicked 'Manage' and under Shared Folders - Sessions, nothing came
up!

2009/10/27 Paul Roach roa...@roachy.net

 On the XP Box, right click on My Computer, and then select Manage.

 In there you should be able to see Shared Folders and Sessions.  Check that
 the number of sessions does not exceed 10 - as I've seen smbclient not
 release connections previously, and XP will only allow 10 concurrent
 connections


 On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Liam Wilson liamwilso...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hey all;

 I've set up a nice little home network with my 9.04 laptop and my XP box
 using samba. The only problem I have is that whilst the connection works
 fine after booting up my 9.04 (Which is the client), I can access my files
 on the XP server and vice-versa for about 20-30 minutes, and then the
 connection 'times out' and I cannot access the XP server. It does not even
 show up in Networks!

 Is there any possibility to resolve this other than rebooting my 9.04?

 Many thanks;
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the BBC!!!

2009-10-27 Thread alan c
Alan Lord (News) wrote:
 On 27/10/09 08:13, Daniel Drummond wrote:
 snip /
 If that guy was from Canonical, perhaps they should think about retraining:-

 /For the first time in 20 years you can buy Ubuntu pre-installed from
 more than one manufacturer, he said. That's an extraordinary story.

 /A stupid statement considering Ubuntu hasn't been around for 20 years.
 
 Nit picking is not really helpful. GNU/Linux has been around for that long.
 
 and

 /Some of the security is through obscurity but it's also better by
 design, he said./

 Just doesn't make sense at all.  Surely as it is an open-source system,
 there is no obscurity.  I think he means to say that Ubuntu is a smaller
 target for crackers than some others.
 
 Thinking about the audience for this perhaps it could have been phrased 
 better but it is a very encouraging sign. That's the first time I've 
 *ever* seen a Linux distro get mainstream coverage in a positive rather 
 than derogatory light.
 
 Chris does work for Canonical. He's in charge of OEM deals worldwide and 
 is quite senior in the company.

Note that a significant fact is the interview was run by BBC Radio
5-Live's Gary Parkinson, who immediately says

I have been running Ubuntu on this netbook for over a year now

As Ubuntu and other alternatibves to the Windows monopoly increase in
general use, there will be people like Gary Parkinson who, whatever
job they do, get to use Ubuntu regularly and find they like it. Gary
is in an influential position. His Ubuntu experiences are apparently
personal ones, not corporate.

The moral I take from this is - the more Ubuntu is used, anywhere, the
closer we get to the tipping point.

I have introduced three friends in recent months to  Linux Emporium,
because they wanted an Ubuntu only Laptop from a retail friendly
source. Three  purchases.  LE is giving an impressive service, I can
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-27 Thread John Levin
On 27/10/2009 10:20, etali wrote:
 John Levin wrote:
 On 27/10/2009 08:47, LeeGroups wrote:



 I've now gone back to Jaunty. This is the first time that any Ubuntu
 version hasn't got online out of the box for me. Very disappointing.

 John



 I've only just subscribed to this list.  How long ago did you download
 your Karmic install?  I've been testing Karmic on a spare box and had
 tons of problems getting online with the previous betas, but yesterday I
 downloaded Karmic Final (testing), and it seems to have fixed all my
 problems.



I was using the release candidate, both for my Lenovo laptop and as a vm 
image.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-27 Thread John Levin
On 27/10/2009 12:31, Daniel Drummond wrote:


 This is due to the inclusion of drive monitoring tools in Karmic.  They
 weren't present in Jaunty, which is why you only found out when you
 installed Karmic.  I've had a warning up about one of my drives, but it
 is pretty much brand new, and hasn't been used much.  Looking at the
 report it gave me makes me think it isn't on it's last legs, but the
 values being reported by the hard drive are not very accurate.


What tools are these? And are they available for Jaunty, if not 
installed by default? OS X has something similar (the name escapes me 
atm) which has saved my proverbial bacon before.

Best

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-27 Thread Alan Pope
2009/10/27 Daniel Drummond dmdrummo...@gmail.com:
 This is due to the inclusion of drive monitoring tools in Karmic.  They
 weren't present in Jaunty, which is why you only found out when you
 installed Karmic.  I've had a warning up about one of my drives, but it
 is pretty much brand new, and hasn't been used much.  Looking at the
 report it gave me makes me think it isn't on it's last legs, but the
 values being reported by the hard drive are not very accurate.


It now no longer nags you about disk failure in the way it used to.

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-27 Thread Alan Pope
2009/10/27 John Levin technola...@gmail.com:
 What tools are these? And are they available for Jaunty, if not
 installed by default? OS X has something similar (the name escapes me
 atm) which has saved my proverbial bacon before.


gnome-disk-utility. I don't believe it's in Jaunty, only karmic
onwards. It was developed by Red Hat.

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-27 Thread Alan Pope
2009/10/27 Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk:
 I've already signed up for an account, I just can't be bothered to enter
 my login details every time I login.  I'd have thought it would just
 remember the details in the application itself (like how Network Manager
 remembers my wireless network key).


You shouldn't need to enter your details every boot. If you do then
it's either a bug or there is a problem at the server side. I know
that they have had issues with the server side in the past which
resulted in people being asked to sign in again.

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the BBC!!!

2009-10-27 Thread Paul Roach
 The moral I take from this is - the more Ubuntu is used, anywhere, the
 closer we get to the tipping point.

 I have introduced three friends in recent months to  Linux Emporium,
 because they wanted an Ubuntu only Laptop from a retail friendly
 source. Three  purchases.  LE is giving an impressive service, I can
 recommend them.


I'd second that Alan - I found a desktop via the LE for a friend, and the
service was first class and the product was excellent - very good for people
who want to use an alternative OS, but don't want the usual argument with
suppliers about refunding OS fees and invalidating warranty due to changing
the OS...

I've personally found that the less pre-requisite Windows experience people
have had, the easier they adapt to Linux - people who have to forget the
previous knowledge to learn anew have a harder time than those who are just
learning something... this has been true for friends and elderly relatives
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the BBC!

2009-10-27 Thread Simon Osborne
2009/10/27 Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk:
 Sean Miller wrote:
 Why do none of these programmes ever mention Wine?

 It's simply not true that you can't run Microsoft programs on Ubuntu
 -- is the BBC sponsored by Apple and Microsoft or what???

 Sean


 Well wine isn't perfect.  A fair few applications don't work very well
 or not at all, so it's not really a perfect solution.  Dual booting with
 Windows or running Windows in a virtual machine would probably be the
 better solution.

 But on the other hand, I guess it is worth mentioning that iTunes works
 on CrossOver (although not owning an iPod, I haven't a clue which
 version works and if it's compatible with the latest iPods and iPhones).

 Rob

Only version 7 though, which actually runs on vanilla Wine 1.2 also.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the BBC!!!

2009-10-27 Thread alan c
Paul Roach wrote:
 The moral I take from this is - the more Ubuntu is used, anywhere, the
 closer we get to the tipping point.

 I have introduced three friends in recent months to  Linux Emporium,
 because they wanted an Ubuntu only Laptop from a retail friendly
 source. Three  purchases.  LE is giving an impressive service, I can
 recommend them.

 
 I'd second that Alan - I found a desktop via the LE for a friend, and the
 service was first class and the product was excellent - very good for people
 who want to use an alternative OS, but don't want the usual argument with
 suppliers about refunding OS fees and invalidating warranty due to changing
 the OS...
 
 I've personally found that the less pre-requisite Windows experience people
 have had, the easier they adapt to Linux - people who have to forget the
 previous knowledge to learn anew have a harder time than those who are just
 learning something... this has been true for friends and elderly relatives
 alike

Yes. The most recent purchase from LE - an elderly lady who has been
aware of Ubuntu for at least a year, but has not really run it at all,
intends to continue using windows and even OE for a short time while
she gets a bit more used to Ubuntu.

I had to do some encouraging and persuading to get her to phone me
with the initial few questions - One Q was how do I turn the laptop
volume up more, it is too low? LE could have answered this I am sure
no problem, but contact with them is better left  for more significant
matters if possible -  the Volume Control window (mixer) with its
several sliders is not obvious to a long time Windows user. Another Q
was how to install AVG  (!) and Flash? - easy to explain all taken
care of and why.

Incidentally, this friend has poor eyesight, and LE also installed
vinux (formerly named vibuntu) as dual boot, free of charge.

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[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu in The Guardian - vs Windows 7

2009-10-27 Thread alan c
A review and comparison, from someone who is used to using Windows,
MAC and Ubuntu.

Ubuntu comes out pretty well, given that GNU/Linux is a best kept
secret on the high street!

I saw the title and thought I ought to read it, knowing I might not
enjoy it as much I would want to.
But, it is not bad at all. If curious PC Windows users read it, it
will do Ubuntu some good.

Review: Ubuntu 9.10 v Windows 7
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2009/oct/27/ubuntu-koala-windows7-review

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[ubuntu-uk] New Canon ip4600 printer

2009-10-27 Thread Jon Taylor
Hi all,

Bought my mother a new canon iP4600 printer the other day to go on her new
Mesh pc (with Jaunty installed.) I updated the machine with the latest of
the updates but for some strange reason it refuses to print. I uninstalled
the printer and had jaunty reinstall it, print a test page but after a re
start it still refuses to print. It's odd because it works via a windows
laptop running windows bisto when I plug the usb cable into it.

I am only a plumber so please don't make any replies too complicated!

Just for my education would this be a problem with the CUPS?

Thanks.

Jon

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu 9.10 Release Party - Manchester, 30th October

2009-10-27 Thread Lucy
This is a reminder that Manchester will be celebrating the release of
Ubuntu 9.10,
Karmic Koala with a release party.

The event will be at the Pitcher  Piano on Deansgate Locks from 6pm
until late on Friday 30th October. That's the day after the official
release. The party is free to attend and no sign up is necessary.
There will be free wifi and expect people to have ISOs of Ubuntu 9.10
(and Kubuntu, etc) available.

The Pitcher  Piano is a public house, so unfortunately under 18s will
not be admitted after 7pm and anyone fortunate enough to look under 25
should bring ID.

The Ubuntu 9.04 release party attracted over 60 people. Lets make this
one even better!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New Canon ip4600 printer

2009-10-27 Thread Rob Beard
Jon Taylor wrote:

 Hi all,

 Bought my mother a new canon iP4600 printer the other day to go on her 
 new Mesh pc (with Jaunty installed.) I updated the machine with the 
 latest of the updates but for some strange reason it refuses to print. 
 I uninstalled the printer and had jaunty reinstall it, print a test 
 page but after a re start it still refuses to print. It’s odd because 
 it works via a windows laptop running windows bisto when I plug the 
 usb cable into it.

 I am only a plumber so please don’t make any replies too complicated!

 Just for my education would this be a problem with the CUPS?

 Thanks.

 Jon

Hi Jon,

Doing a quick google search came up with this...

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=975747

The above link also mentions this... 
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters/CanonPrinters/CanonPixmaIP4200

It appears that you will have to download a PPD file direct from Canon's 
web site, or possibly a driver. Good luck.

Rob



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