Re: [ubuntu-uk] Fwd: [Brighton-lug-misc] Free UNIX shell account
On 18 Apr 2010, at 23:02, louis taylor lo...@taylor.bot.nu wrote: Does anyone know if these people will install software on the server? In particular byobu https://launchpad.net/byobu (which runs on bsd) You could try asking for it on IRC or compiling it in your home directory. In the case of byobu it only needs a couple of files in your home directory anyway. Thanks-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Backup strategies: [Was Hard drive- Bad sectors]
Alan Lord (News) wrote: snip It isn't perfect - currently it uses rsync but this makes it hard to recover from a few days (or weeks) ago. I've been meaning to migrate it to rsnapshot but just haven't got round to it yet. Would you mind saying a bit more about the problem with rsync? I've used it regularly for backup, but I've not had to recover much (only bits of data I've accidentally deleted). So, in view of your passing comment that it's hard to recover from a few days/weeks ago, I'm now a bit worried about not being able to recover from a more serious data loss. And how is rsnapshot better? TIA mac -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Backup strategies: [Was Hard drive- Bad sectors]
On 19/04/10 08:00, mac wrote: Alan Lord (News) wrote: snip It isn't perfect - currently it uses rsync but this makes it hard to recover from a few days (or weeks) ago. I've been meaning to migrate it to rsnapshot but just haven't got round to it yet. Would you mind saying a bit more about the problem with rsync? I've used it regularly for backup, but I've not had to recover much (only bits of data I've accidentally deleted). So, in view of your passing comment that it's hard to recover from a few days/weeks ago, I'm now a bit worried about not being able to recover from a more serious data loss. The way my script (and I think rsync) works is that what is stored on my backup location is only a copy of what was last backed up (i.e. last night). If I wanted to restore a system to how it was say 3 days or one week ago I don't think you can. rsnapshot and rdiff-backup both provide alternatives to this where there is also a history (length and precision of your choosing) so you can re-create data that was around at some arbitrary point in the past. It hasn't really been a problem before, but it would be nice to be able to have this facility. There are pros and cons to both solutions I think. HTH Al -- The Open Learning Centre http://www.theopenlearningcentre.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Backup strategies: [Was Hard drive- Bad sectors]
Alan Lord (News) wrote: The way my script (and I think rsync) works is that what is stored on my backup location is only a copy of what was last backed up (i.e. last night). If I wanted to restore a system to how it was say 3 days or one week ago I don't think you can. Ah, I see. I do weekly backups on this home system. There's not a vast amount of data to handle, so weekly is OK here. My backup script does Grandfather-Father-Son rsyncs to three different drives, so there are always two 'historic' copies. I can see that in an office, with a lot of data, having hourly, daily, weekly, etc., snapshots is much more important. Thanks for the clarification. (I can relax. Phew!) mac -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Backup strategies: [Was Hard drive- Bad sectors]
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 9:01 AM, mac ammonius.grammati...@gmx.co.uk wrote: I can see that in an office, with a lot of data, having hourly, daily, weekly, etc., snapshots is much more important. snip Not sure if it's any use to anyone on here, but backuppc (available in the repositories) is a very nice solution, as it's a perl based with a nice web interface that allows backup using SMB, rsync over SSH, etc. It handles incremental backups nicely and gives an easy method of restoring files and folders as well. I'm currently using it to backup a handful of remote sites to our head office and it's very effective. Might be worth a look. Paul -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Backup strategies: [Was Hard drive- Bad sectors]
On 19 April 2010 09:10, Paul Morgan-Roach roa...@roachy.net wrote: Not sure if it's any use to anyone on here, but backuppc (available in the repositories) is a very nice solution, as it's a perl based with a nice web interface that allows backup using SMB, rsync over SSH, etc. It handles incremental backups nicely and gives an easy method of restoring files and folders as well. I'm currently using it to backup a handful of remote sites to our head office and it's very effective. Might be worth a look. That is definitely worth a look. I have been using backup-manager, also from the repositories. In fact I have been feeling rather smug, as I finally have sorted out my backup's. Having never been bitten by a failing HD, I had not formally setup a backup system. Now I make sure that stuff I am working on is in my Dropbox folder. backup-manager does nightly incremental backups on my server and workstation, and weekly full backups. All important data is on the server. Then I rsync the archives from both machines to a USB hard disk, that is located in a different building to the server. I am thinking of changing the USB drive to a much bigger one, and then coming up with a scheme that avoids massive transfers across the network each week. -- Philip Stubbs -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Fwd: [Brighton-lug-misc] Free UNIX shell account
You could try asking for it on IRC or compiling it in your home directory. In the case of byobu it only needs a couple of files in your home directory anyway. I already have installed it in my home folder. I was wondering if it could be installed globally, since I have found some small problems but I don't know if these are caused by the way I have installed it, or running it on bsd. Cheers, -- --Louis Taylor-- http://louistaylor.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] LPIC vs CompTIA Linux+
What does everybody think about these certifications? Is one of them better to have, and are they both up to date? http://www.lpi.org/certification http://www.comptia.org/certifications/listed/linux.aspx -- David Lutton m: 07792 560341 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] LPIC vs CompTIA Linux+
On Mon, 2010-04-19 at 15:03 +0100, David wrote: What does everybody think about these certifications? Is one of them better to have, and are they both up to date? http://www.lpi.org/certification http://www.comptia.org/certifications/listed/linux.aspx -- David Lutton m: 07792 560341 Lpic is the more massively recognise cert. Comptia's name is known but more for the a+, network+ certs than linux+ Both will be archaic and up-to-date so that it covers everything you might come across. By up-to-date I'm talking last 2-3 years rather than the latest ubuntu/debian/red-hat/opensuse versions. -- Seek That Thy Might Know http://www.davmor2.co.uk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] LPIC vs CompTIA Linux+
All Linux+ is now powered by LPI. See the press release from last week: http://lpi.org/eng/about_lpi/what_s_new/comptia_and_lpi_join_forces_to_a dvance_global_linux_workforce Bill -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Dave Morley Sent: 19 April 2010 15:11 To: UK Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] LPIC vs CompTIA Linux+ On Mon, 2010-04-19 at 15:03 +0100, David wrote: What does everybody think about these certifications? Is one of them better to have, and are they both up to date? http://www.lpi.org/certification http://www.comptia.org/certifications/listed/linux.aspx -- David Lutton m: 07792 560341 Lpic is the more massively recognise cert. Comptia's name is known but more for the a+, network+ certs than linux+ Both will be archaic and up-to-date so that it covers everything you might come across. By up-to-date I'm talking last 2-3 years rather than the latest ubuntu/debian/red-hat/opensuse versions. -- Seek That Thy Might Know http://www.davmor2.co.uk -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] LPIC vs CompTIA Linux+
On 19 April 2010 15:03, David david.lut...@gmail.com wrote: What does everybody think about these certifications? Is one of them better to have, and are they both up to date? http://www.lpi.org/certification http://www.comptia.org/certifications/listed/linux.aspx Some sample questions for the LPI remind me of a TV phone in quiz What is the man command used for? *B)* It is the replacement for the boy command. To answer the question, I agree that LPI is the certification most talked about. I am a little dubious about certification as it usually tests memory rather than understanding. If you are starting out as a Linux admin, it is useful to have for your CV though. -- John Stevenson jr0cket.com leanagilemachine.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] LPIC vs CompTIA Linux+
John You need to put the question in context. What is the man command used for? A) It displays information about the syntax for a command. B) It is the replacement for the boy command. C) It is a standard alias to ls -la | more. D) It is used to display formatted HTML pages. With all IT Certification Exams I have seen or taken (Microsoft, Cisco, ITIL, Novell), there is usually one answer which you can discount. I would interpret this sample question as demonstrating that point, albeit in a very obvious manner. Some of the other questions at http://www.lpi.org/eng/certification/the_lpic_program/lpic_1/exam_101_sa mple_questions are less obvious. For example: What command sends the output of cmd1 to the input of cmd2? A) cmd1 | cmd2 B) cmd1 || cmd2 C) cmd1 cmd2 D) cmd1 ; cmd2 E) cmd1 cmd2 Bill From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of John Stevenson Sent: 19 April 2010 16:06 To: UK Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] LPIC vs CompTIA Linux+ On 19 April 2010 15:03, David david.lut...@gmail.com wrote: What does everybody think about these certifications? Is one of them better to have, and are they both up to date? http://www.lpi.org/certification http://www.comptia.org/certifications/listed/linux.aspx Some sample questions for the LPI remind me of a TV phone in quiz What is the man command used for? B) It is the replacement for the boy command. To answer the question, I agree that LPI is the certification most talked about. I am a little dubious about certification as it usually tests memory rather than understanding. If you are starting out as a Linux admin, it is useful to have for your CV though. -- John Stevenson jr0cket.com leanagilemachine.com -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Strange problem on Lucid ....
Hi there Wondered if anyone has any thoughts on this. I'm running Lucid on a Dell Inspiron Mini v10. Every 10th or so re-boot, it seems to carry out a forced disk check. I don't know if it's relevant, but it has an SSD drive which I formatted ext2 on the advice on an Ubuntu forum as ext2 is faster than ext3 and less write-intensive so more appropriate for an SSD. Dring the forced check, the original Ubuntu splash screen was counting up to around 71% and freezing. Altering grub to remove quiet splash showed that the boot process was getting beyond fsck and displaying a further couple of lines. I omitted to note down what these said. I tried including GRB_CMDLINE_LINUX=noapic. This did not help. I currently have GRB_CMDLINE_LINUX=noapic, nolapic, noapci in /etc/default/grub (followed by update-grub), and the last couple of times the disk check has been observed, it has completed OK. fsck was forced with the comment disk not unmounted cleanly. I don't know why this happens as I've done a normal shutdown on every occasion so far. Any thoughts? Also, I don't fully understand the implications for me of taking out apic etc, and whether any of the apic/apci/lapic options might be what I really need. I've done almost no low level stuff, and am interested to know a bit more. Is there a grub expert in the house? Regards, Barry -- From Barry Drake (The Revd) Health and Healing advisor to the East Midlands Synod of the United Reformed Church. See http://www.urc5.org.uk/index for information about the synod, and http://www.urc5.org.uk/?q=node/703 for the Synod Healing pages. Replies - b.dr...@ntlworld.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange problem on Lucid ....
On Monday 19 Apr 2010 16:31:10 Barry Drake wrote: Hi there Wondered if anyone has any thoughts on this. I'm running Lucid on a Dell Inspiron Mini v10. Every 10th or so re-boot, it seems to carry out a forced disk check. I don't know if it's relevant, but it has an SSD drive which I formatted ext2 on the advice on an Ubuntu forum as ext2 is faster than ext3 and less write-intensive so more appropriate for an SSD. Dring the forced check, the original Ubuntu splash screen was counting up to around 71% and freezing. Altering grub to remove quiet splash showed that the boot process was getting beyond fsck and displaying a further couple of lines. I omitted to note down what these said. I tried including GRB_CMDLINE_LINUX=noapic. This did not help. I currently have GRB_CMDLINE_LINUX=noapic, nolapic, noapci in /etc/default/grub (followed by update-grub), and the last couple of times the disk check has been observed, it has completed OK. fsck was forced with the comment disk not unmounted cleanly. I don't know why this happens as I've done a normal shutdown on every occasion so far. Any thoughts? Take a look at this bug and its duplicates on launchpad https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/554737 . -- Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange problem on Lucid ....
Mark Fraser wrote: Take a look at this bug and its duplicates on launchpad https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/554737 . Thanks for that. This is definitely the same bug, and it explains a whole lot of things I'm seeing. I know where to look now. Plymouth has repeatedly crashed, but I hadn't realised what it does until now. Sounds like the whole problem will soon be sorted. Regards, Barry -- From Barry Drake (The Revd) Health and Healing advisor to the East Midlands Synod of the United Reformed Church. See http://www.urc5.org.uk/index for information about the synod, and http://www.urc5.org.uk/?q=node/703 for the Synod Healing pages. Replies - b.dr...@ntlworld.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
