ugnet_: Fw: 'Federo' is a fantasy
- Original Message - Editorial : newvision 26/8/2003 'Federo' is a fantasy CABINET HAS decided to push for the lifting of term limits for the presidency and a return to federo. However, a representative of the Buganda kingdom has responded that the two issues should be delinked. He is right. The two issues are both too complex to consider together. In particular the restoration of federo, or a federal kingdom, is risky. Firstly, the dominance of the Buganda kingdom at independence created a political imbalance that destabilised the country. Secondly, a federal kingdom is not the most progressive form of government. As head of state, the Kabaka will appoint chiefs, ministers and officials. What will happen to the authority of democratically elected LC5 and LC3 officials? Thirdly, is an additional layer of administration in Buganda even necessary? Fourthly, this administration will have to be funded either by local taxation or by increased taxation by the central government. If the central government pays, a peasant in West Nile might ask why his tax payments go to the Kabaka of Buganda. Fifthly, how many Baganda truly want federo? Many elected LC officials favour loose cooperation under a charter, as Busoga is attempting, but oppose the idea of an administrative federal kingdom. Federo has become a fantasy, a dream for a return to the 1950s and 1960s when people were more prosperous and society more orderly. But it is impossible to turn the clock back. If the kingdom returns, Baganda will still find themselves in today's Uganda where the world coffee price is lower than the 1960s and KCC cannot fix the roads. It is not worth changing the Constitution for the sake of an illusion. Published on: Tuesday, 26th August, 2003 Email this article to a friend. Mitayo Potosi _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug
Re: ugnet_: NRM's Federo has been rejected by Baganda.
Emmanuel,thanks for your response on this issue of Federalism. In deed Obote and Amin were once presidents and I think no one really need to belabour that. The present stalemate or whatever one may prefer to call it has got nothing to do with those two former Ugandan presidents.It has got all to do with the way a segment of the Ugandan society wants to handle such matters that impact on every Ugandan. We on other fora discussed exhaustively on Federalism and there was a consensus within the fora that Ugandans would be better served if Federalism was to augment our governance. Mu7 and his cabal were very aware of this and what some of us suggested that time was that since we were all in consonance with the idea of federalism,we had better promote democracy and democratic principles first because as it has turned out to be true,Mu7 will use the per chant desire of some of us for Federalism and grant it on paper as a claptrap to perpetuate himself in power. What is being purported to be cabinet decisions is no surprise at all to me and those of us who have known Mu7 and his modus operandi.That is why I am personally wondering why some of us in Buganda never really want to learn from all the vast personal experiences that we have had with Mu7.Is it because we hate Obote more and therefore our hatred for and of Obote clouds the way we analyse Ugandan issues?. Mu7 has now exposed the few Baganda who may have been surreptitiously meeting him to offer Federo to Buganda by saying Buganda will get Federo and that is where the truth will emanate from not the multitudes of denials that is being put up as a face saving facade. This we had ably pointed out and I am sure ,unless Mu7 is talking out of sync,it will come to pass. This is where our problem lies in having unity with people who are united for cross purposes. Ugandans need to unite to get their rights and without actually knowing what is happening in Northern Uganda ,I will reluctantly say Kony is the terrorist because there are many activities there that just do not add up. The best way to get to the truth is to make Mu7 accountable to the people of Uganda for what has been taking place there since 1986. Sometimes I am left wondering whether that was his plan to wipe out the people from the North that he and his ardent supporters from Central Uganda have often referred to as biological substances.Some of us would like emphatic opposition to Mu7's ways in these areas and not using Mu7's dupe to think the rebels are terrorists when it may be the state itself terrorising the people,since they have the monopoly of both the means of violence and spewing deceptive information. That my brother is the biggest problem. Thank you. Kipenji. ===emmanuel musaazi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's not trivialise such an issue by resorting to tribalism.remember that Obote and Amin were once presidents of Uganda and they never gave federalism a thought, and gauging from their policies, i think they were against federalism. Buganda and for that matter any region in Uganda has a right to make demands for federalism. The constitution of Uganda is not suspended, irrespective of the unfortunate situation in the North of the country, being caused by the LRA terrorists.From: "Mulindwa Edward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: ugnet_: NRM's Federo has been rejected by Baganda.Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 17:02:27 -0400Mwaami MusaaziSo you want them to take the time while in IDP Camps and write what theywant from federalism. Do you really think that getting federalism is anywhere on the list of all most three quarters of Ugandans who have never gotpeace since you guys started to sleep?Em The Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"- Original Message -From: "emmanuel musaazi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 11:37 AMSubject: Re: ugnet_: NRM's Federo has been rejected by Baganda. ..but i think over and above everything else is the fact that the demandof the baganda for federalism is facilitating a debate and an important oneat that. Federalism is the way to go particularly for a country like Uganda where there is a lot of uneven development country-wide. What shape it eventualy takes, i think will be a matter of negotiations mainly betweenthe units and government. Right now it appears one sided because the otherunits are yet to appreciate the long term benefits of federalisms, they are letting there reactions to federalism be dictated by the baganda, insteadof coming up with their own demands that benefit their regions under such a system. They are failing to realise that as long as buganda is the only region asking for federalism, then it is more likely to get most of it's demands through than if there
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ugnet_: UN BOMB WAS PAYBACK
UN Bomb Was Payback For Collusion With USBy Neil Mackay The Sunday Herald - UK 8-26-03 The reason the United Nations headquarters in Baghdad were bombed is because the UN has been taken over by the US and turned into a "dark joke" and a "malignant force", according to one of the UN's most internationally respected former leaders. Denis Halliday, the former UN Assistant Secretary-General and UN Humanitarian Co-ordinator in Iraq, attacked the UN as an aggressive arm of US foreign policy in the immediate aftermath of the truck bomb attack on the UN mission in Baghdad which killed at least 23 people ñ many of whom were Halliday's former friends and colleagues. "The West sees the UN as a benign organisation, but the sad reality in much of the world is that the UN is not seen as benign," said Halliday, who was nominated for the 2001 Nobel Peace Prize. "The UN Security Council has been taken over and corrupted by the US and UK, particularly with regard to Iraq, Palestine and Israel. "In Iraq, the UN imposed sustained sanctions that probably killed up to one million people. Children were dying of malnutrition and water-borne diseases. The US and UK bombed the infrastructure in 1991, destroying power, water and sewage systems against the Geneva Convention. It was a great crime against Iraq. "Thirteen years of sanctions made it impossible for Iraq to repair the damage. That is why we have such tremendous resentment and anger against the UN in Iraq. There is a sense that the UN humiliated the Iraqi people and society. I would use the term genocide to define the use of sanctions against Iraq. Several million Iraqis are suffering cancers because of the use of depleted uranium shells. That's an atrocity. Can you imagine the bitterness from all of this? He warned that "further collaboration" between the UN and the US and Britain "would be a disaster for the United Nations as it would be sucked into supporting the illegal occupation of Iraq". "The UN has been drawn into being an arm of the US ñ a division of the state department. Kofi Annan was appointed and supported by the US and that has corrupted the independence of the UN. The UN must move quickly to reform itself and improve the security council ñ it must make clear that the UN and the US are not one and the same." Halliday said the US should withdraw from Iraqi within six months and allow free elections to be held. The UN could then start the work of helping the Iraqis rebuild their nation. "Bush has blown $75 billion on this war, so he should spend $75 billion on reconstruction ñ and the money shouldn't just go to Halliburton [an oil firm now operating in Iraqi which was once run by vice- president Dick Cheney] and the boys either. Once the US goes from Iraq, the terrorist will go as well. "Bush and Blair have misled their countries into war. By invading Iraq and placing the US inside the Islamic world, America is inviting terrorists to come on the attack." Halliday, who resigned from the UN in 1998, knows his comments will upset London, Washington and Kofi Annan, but he claims many senior UN figures feel the same anger. ©2003 smg sunday newspapers ltd. no.176088. all rights reserved. http://www.sundayherald.com/36222 The Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
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Did Mandela betray his own revolution? Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 23:44:25 + Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Did Mandela betray his own revolution? By Billet Magara ; Business tribune sa Nelson Mandela's Xhosa name Rolihlahla literally means pulling a tree branch. Symbolically it means troublemaker. The pre-treason trial Mandela was a man who brought chill winds into the Apartheid South African government's high echelons of power. He was a troublemaker who became a colossal symbol of the struggle for the freedom of a nation. Inevitably he was sent to Robben Island for half a lifetime with frenzied sharks for neighbours and the dehumanisation of the man began in enerst. What really happened in Prison? South African prisons were not designed as correctional facilities at all. They were places where the body and soul of inmates died physiological and psychological deaths. They were torture chambers that left individuals diseased marionettes of their former selves. How much of the former Nelson Mandela made it to independence and freedom? Towards the end of his detention, Nelson Mandela began to show signs of succumbing to the willpower of his captors. He initiated negotiations for his own release to the consternation of his fellow detainees. He wrote a letter to Koebe Coetsee, the Minister of Justice in the apartheid regime and asked for talks to be held between the African National Congress (ANC) and the government. Mandela was eventually isolated from his mates and was lavished with gifts and held countless meetings with the SA authorities, foreign dignitaries and senior officials of foreign intelligence services. The reactions from his mates were quite telling. Mandela's stable mate Walter Sisulu could not hide his disappointment. He said that he would have preferred that government initiate discussions rather than ANC initiate them. Ahmed Kathrada, another Mandela backer opposed the position taken by Mandela. But the most telling response came from Oliver Tambo in Lusaka. His note to Mandela was sharp and only fell short of calling him a traitor. In a revolution there are no private dealings with a public enemy. Such an unsanctioned move would be tantamount to treason itself. Mandela was moved to Pollsmoor prison with some of his mates but his isolated cell carried luxuries unseen in the cells of other inmates. It was his transfer to Victor Vester Prison that convinced other cadres that Mandela was selling out. Mandela was given a cottage with one storey, unbarred windows, a swimming pool, manicured green lawns, bodyguards and a chauffeur. Prison conditions were changing from Spartan to super luxury. Even the deputy commander of Pollmoor would give Mandela rides in luxury limousines in the city of Cape Town. Prison authorities under instruction from the government, knew the effect of providing limited freedoms to detainees. They knew that it would bring feelings of nostalgia and deep yearnings for true freedom and release from detention. They knew it would result in compromise. They pampered Mandela senseless. At one time the head of South African military intelligence, a certain Dr Niel Banaard, knelt down in front of Mandela in order to tie the undone shoelaces of his black prisoner! When Mandela was diagnosed with early tuberculosis, they moved him to Tygerbay Hospital on the grounds of the Stellenbosch University, Cape Town. They quickly moved him to Constantiaberg Clinic where the luxury and sophistication left a lasting impression on the man. He became the first black man to be treated at the all-white clinic. What an incentive! He met with senior government officials including PW Botha and when the latter suffered a stroke and resigned, Mandela met with the new president Fredrick Willem De Klerk and the secret committee. After his release, Mandela began to show signs that the system had got to his psyche. The colonial name of the country South Africa, which the world expected to be changed to AZANIA, was maintained and the apartheid symbols of the springbok were kept intact as well. Names of cities remained the same. People's lifestyles, standards of living deteriorated at the time of Mandela's government. He was popular among white people who could not believe their luck at the fact that their war crimes were no longer going to dog them through independence and beyond. South African parliamentarians used to quiz Mandela over his trips to London where he was always seen at the offices of the Scotland Yard and the MI5. Adequate explanations have never been acquired. One of the most startling things about Mandela was his naïve trust of everyone he met and worked with. One Dr Wouter Basson, a chemical and biological weapons expert, had been tasked to put a slow acting thallium poison and mescaline mind controlling drugs into Mandela's food and drink while at Pollsmoor. The same man came to Mandela and
ugnet_: TWAGIRAMUNGU TO THE SPREME COURT
Rwanda Opposition leader rejects election results Rwanda's main opposition candidate in presidential elections has rejected the election results in which incumbent President Paul Kagame has won a landslide victory. Faustin Twagiramungu says he will lodge a protest with the Supreme Court. Rwanda's electoral commission said on Tuesday incumbent president Paul Kagame had won with 94.3 percent of the vote, in the first presidential elections since the country's 1994 genocide in which 800,000 people were killed. Published on: Tuesday, 26th August, 2003 The Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
ugnet_: NETTERS HELP ME HERE
Netters I am posting this post with great fear of how imoral the American society has become, and I am asking you only one question, can you imagine if this happens in Africa? Read on and understand what we miss by not comming from a developed country. Em -- Autistic Boy's Death At Church Ruled HomicideChild Was Suffocated, Autopsy Report SaysCNN.com8-26-03 MILWAUKEE, Wisconsin (CNN) -- An 8-year-old autistic boy who died at a prayer service where church members tried to heal him of "spirits" was suffocated, the medical examiner's office said Monday. Terrance Cottrell went to a prayer service Friday with his mother, who prayed over him with a pastor and other church members. By the time the two-hour service was over, Terrance was dead. The official cause of death is mechanical asphyxia due to external chest compression, meaning Terrance was suffocated. The death has been ruled a homicide. The church is in a run-down strip mall in northern Milwaukee, with the sign for the former tenant -- a bar -- still posted above its door. A poster on the door says the Faith Temple Church of the Apostolic Faith has services every Sunday. Ray Hemphill -- a pastor at the storefront church and the brother of head Pastor David Hemphill -- was arrested early Saturday on suspicion of child abuse and is awaiting formal charges, authorities said. Ray Hemphill led Friday's prayer service, his brother said. David Hemphill told CNN that Terrance and his mother had been attending the church for about three months. The adults formed a circle around the boy and placed their hands lightly over him as they prayed for him, David Hemphill said Sunday. "[They] were just praying for him and asking God to deliver him from the spirit that he had," David Hemphill said. "The little boy had spirits in him, and we was asking God to deliver him." David Hemphill said the prayers were in accordance with Matthew 12:43, which says, "When an evil spirit comes out of a man, it goes through arid places seeking rest and does not find it." At the end of the prayers, one of the women noticed that Terrance was not breathing. An adult called 911, but when emergency services arrived around 11 p.m., the boy was dead, David Hemphill said. A neighbor described Terrance's mother as a zealous church convert who once said the evil spirit had spoken through her son at the church. "She said he said, 'Kill me, take me, kill me,'" neighbor Denise Allison said. "I was like, are you serious? I couldn't really believe that." Asked whether church members could have confused Terrance's autism with evil spirits, David Hemphill said no. "It wasn't confused," he told CNN. "I know what I'm talking about." Hemphill said Terrance "had spirits in him," and church members simply asked God to "deliver him." This past Sunday, services were held at David Hemphill's home, where he said members consoled each other about the boy's death. Hemphill said they haven't yet decided when services will return to the church. CNN correspondent Jeff Flock contributed to this report. © 2003 Cable News Network LP, LLLP. An AOL Time Warner Company. All Rights Reserved. http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/08/25/autistic.boy.death/ The Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
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Re: ugnet_: Federo is a fantasy
emmanuel, Now I can spare time to read your postings because of your improved writing, good boy. Now you need to work on your paragraphs, to give some fresh air to your messages. y From: emmanuel musaazi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: Federo is a fantasy Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 16:12:20 -0500 Whoever was responsible for this editorial, does not understand the concept of federalism. First of all how does he know that the final federal system agreed upon will take the shape he is outlining (talk about puting the cart before the horse). The final system will depend on negotiations which will involve a lot of tradeoffs and compromises, it's not about 'winner takes all'. Secondly, the Primeminister does not have to be the Kabaka (there doesn't even need to be a prime minister). Federalism will help spread development around the country, new city capitals will spring up and along with them jobs, institutions of learning and investements. Federalism will also help to reduce the concentration of power at the center which will on the long run enhance democracy. As for taxes, well a tax sharing and allocation formular will be part of the negotiations, this is why i said that the more the number of regions involved in the negotiations the better for the whole country. Right now everybody is only hearing the Buganda proposal because other regions have not formaly and in an organized fashion, put forward their proposals. The other regions should stop wining and come with ideas, that is what democracy is all about, isn't it, democracy lovers? From: Mitayo Potosi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: Federo is a fantasy Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 17:35:19 + Editorial : newvision 26/8/2003 Federo is a fantasy CABINET HAS decided to push for the lifting of term limits for the presidency and a return to federo. However, a representative of the Buganda kingdom has responded that the two issues should be delinked. He is right. The two issues are both too complex to consider together. In particular the restoration of federo, or a federal kingdom, is risky. Firstly, the dominance of the Buganda kingdom at independence created a political imbalance that destabilised the country. Secondly, a federal kingdom is not the most progressive form of government. As head of state, the Kabaka will appoint chiefs, ministers and officials. What will happen to the authority of democratically elected LC5 and LC3 officials? Thirdly, is an additional layer of administration in Buganda even necessary? Fourthly, this administration will have to be funded either by local taxation or by increased taxation by the central government. If the central government pays, a peasant in West Nile might ask why his tax payments go to the Kabaka of Buganda. Fifthly, how many Baganda truly want federo? Many elected LC officials favour loose cooperation under a charter, as Busoga is attempting, but oppose the idea of an administrative federal kingdom. Federo has become a fantasy, a dream for a return to the 1950s and 1960s when people were more prosperous and society more orderly. But it is impossible to turn the clock back. If the kingdom returns, Baganda will still find themselves in todays Uganda where the world coffee price is lower than the 1960s and KCC cannot fix the roads. It is not worth changing the Constitution for the sake of an illusion. Published on: Tuesday, 26th August, 2003 Email this article to a friend. Mitayo Potosi _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug
ugnet_: In Response to Noc's OUTBURST
Ladit Noc. Your outburst so to say, was rather unexpected I reckon. I will, nonetheless, respond to it as follows. a) It has always been and it is still the position of Uganda Peoples Congress that the KONY's LRA wars with Yoweri Museveni's NRM/A should be resolved through peaceful negotiated settlement. This point has been driven home time and time again by some of us and lately by other members of Uganda Peoples Congress Presidential Policy Commission who are resident in Kampala. ( if you care to read The MONITOR NEWS PAPER) b) Unfortunately, because of Yoweri Museveni's NRM militaristic disposition, the Regime in Kampala has insisted that the solution to Uganda's Problems can only be found by using the gun, tanks, mamba's APC's Bazooka e.t.c . Indeed, for now close to 18 years the regime in Kampala, at any given point in time, has been fighting rebels; be it the so called LRA rebels, ADF rebels, Karamojong cattle rustlers, West Nile Bank Front Part Two, rebels Itongwa Rebels . the list goes on and on and on. I hear now the Kampala regime is getting read to fight what the regime refers to as Bwesigye's "PRA rebels". c) In all this wars against rebels, if we are to follow Moses Ali's advise to Ugandans that they should enlist in militia and help in fighting Yoweri Museveni's "enemies", How many Uganda civilian population do you think will die fighting this wars? Let me answer that many. That is why I believe that it is totally ridiculous to call upon Uganda civilian Population to fight Yoweri Museveni's wars. I am of the opinion that since the regime in Kampala strongly believes in solving Uganda's problem through military means, then let the apologist and sycophants of the regime do the fighting period. On the other hand if you feel like the best approach to solve the numerous rebellion in the in Northern and Eastern Uganda (and may be soon Western Uganda if we are to believe the regimes accusation that Bwesyige is training rebels) is to bear arms and face the rebels then go right ahead. I cannot stop you. Indeed I have no power to do so. Matek
ugnet_: Karamojong Disarmament to Resume
Karamojong Disarmament to Resume New Vision (Kampala) August 27, 2003 Posted to the web August 27, 2003 Kampala The disarmament programme in Karamoja will resume as soon as the LRA rebellion is over, reports Justin Moro. State minister for defence Ruth Nankabirwa said this on Monday at a public rally at Omiya Anyima and Namukora sub-counties in Chua county in Kitgum district. "Soon, LRA rebellion will be no more and the President will re-launch the disarmament programme which will be successful in the end and we shall have no problem," she said. Residents said the rebels and the Karimojong had committed several atrocities against civilians in the area. Nankabirwa said it was illegal for any citizen to carry a gun and harass others.
ugnet_: Parliament: Militias Can Stir Trouble
Parliament: Militias Can Stir Trouble The Monitor (Kampala) August 26, 2003 Posted to the web August 26, 2003 Ssemujju Ibrahim Nganda Kampala Members of Parliament are worried that arming local militias might stir ethnic conflicts. The MPs now want the government to explain the legal framework within which local militias such as Teso's Arrow Group are operating. The lawmakers on the Defense and Internal Affairs committee were, yesterday, writing their report after studying the budget estimates and policy statement for the Ministry of Defence for the financial year 2003/2004. Otuke MP Omara Atubo wondered why the government has deployed tribal militias to fight rebels instead of the army. The MPs saluted the Arrow Group initiative in Teso, but maintained that the militia has to be supervised by the UPDF. The MPs also called on the government to facilitate the Arrow Group. Bokora MP Patrick Apuun said that the Karimojong are concerned that the Iteso might turn their guns on them, when they are finished with the Joseph Kony rebels. Apuun accused the Minister of State for Health, Mr Mike Mukula, of making statements likely to spark off tribal clashes. He said that it is dangerous for Mukula to say that the Iteso would retain their guns after the war (against Kony to fend off the Karimojong). He said that such a move could lead to genocide. But Mukula told The Monitor on phone from Soroti yesterday that the guns in Teso are not his personal property. He said that no guns would be turned against any person, not even the Karimojong. Mukula also explained that the Arrow Group is already supervised by the UPDF. Last week, President Yoweri Museveni announced in Soroti that the Arrow Group would be facilitated and paid allowances, in addition to being properly structured under the command of the UPDF.
ugnet_: Rebels Kill Popular Teso College Teacher
Rebels Kill Popular Teso College Teacher The Monitor (Kampala) August 26, 2003 Posted to the web August 26, 2003 Patrick E. Angonu Kampala UPDF soldiers on August 25 launched a cordon-and-search operation here against the Lord's Resistance Army (LRA) rebels led by Mr Joseph Kony. The operation saw motorists being barred from using the risky Soroti-Moroto highway. The rebels have recently intensified attacks on civilian targets here, and on Sunday they killed a popular science teacher from Teso College Aloet. John Elamu, the head of the Biology department at Teso College, was shot dead on August 24 along the Tubur-Arapai road. He was returning to Teso College from his home village of Apalaet, 17km north of Soroti town. The councillor representing Tubur sub-county in the Soroti district council, Mr Charles Elasu, last week complained to President Museveni that the LRA are flying their red flag in the area - suggesting that the rebels consider Tubur to be their stronghold. "By killing Elamu, they have killed a teacher who knew biology well and who will be really hard to replace," mourned the Soroti Principal Education Officer, Mr Michael Etoyu Oumo. Elamu had taught at Teso College for 17 years after he fled from Amuria SSS at the height of the Uganda People's Army rebellion in Teso in the late 1980s. "All these young doctors from Teso and many others [were taught by Elamu]," Oumo said.
ugnet_: Diversity Visa 2005
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Re: ugnet_: Lutimba!
EM, The answer is an emphatic NO! Was just smoking him out. rgds Gook "You can't separate peace from freedom because no one can be at peace unless he has his freedom."- Malcom X Original Message Follows From: "Mulindwa Edward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: ugnet_: Lutimba! Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 16:58:04 -0400 Gr Do you really have a time for this man? Em The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" - Original Message - From: gook makanga To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 9:11 AM Subject: ugnet_: Lutimba! PS!!! Lutimba, Am in your "neck of the woods", see if u can buy me that beer u once promised me! U know where u can find me. rgds gook Lutimba, I have been watching you deteriorate from a serious analytical fellow to now this childish and lackluster performa nce you put up these days. Look, if you have nothing to say simply shut up. Stop these personal attacks on your "enemies". If you have "Bwino" on the non insisting agreement btwn M7 and Buganda bring it out without going native on your opponents bar habits. I know you as a beer loving fellow. I have even had a few bouts with you. This can never make me call you an alcoholic! If you are losing an argument..please accept it with grace and bow out. The little faith i once had in you as an NRA/M (wannabe) i could do business with is fast fading out. What a waste for such a potatial political mate! Rgds Gook "You can't separate peace from freedom because no one can be at peace unless he has his freedom."- Malcom X Original Message Follows From: Lutimba Matovu Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ugnet_: Kasangwao, Matovu! Eddy Mutesa (RIP) was an Alcoholic! Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 14:55:52 -0700 (PDT) Bwambuga, The real Alcoholic is Mulindwa. Mulindwa is the man who really loves the bottle. I now have bwino on this guy. He loves the bottle like his hero AMO. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kasangwao, Your arguement is too cheap for me. I am very well learned and knowledgeable Uganda in case you did not know. I think you are doing total deservice to your nation, abd people by involving your self in "...he said she said." scheme. You are displaying mere ignorance and lack of information and ability to know what you are saying. God Bless your heart and children who God Willing, will grow up under your deceitfull environment. An behold you take pride in them. Bwambuga. "Mulindwa Edward" wrote: Kasan gwawoOn all accusations made, on all love Buganda has to her Kingdom, would Obote poison Muteesa and the person who knew about it decide to be anonymous except to you? Let us remember that what we are discussing today is both of great importance to a whole mass of people and the History of Uganda as a nation. So I would encourage every one to stick on the facts, for there are those who are going to read these facts and take them for whole truth and help you God. That is why I stated before that the cause of death of Mutesa was not by poison from Obot e. Can I back that claim? Yes the Post Mortem made in London and in a nation which was against Obote is available. I hope you can produce the evidence backing "that Some one", Secondly I stated that the funds which were sent to Mutesa and his family even after his death all way through to Amin, can be backed up by records in Bank of Uganda, which is in Uganda today. So let us not take these things that likely, for they are of great Historical importance.Em The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" - Original Message - From: "jonah kasangwawo" To: Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 4:05 PM Subject: Re: ugnet_: Matovu! Eddy Mutesa (RIP) was an Alcoholic! Bwambuga, we als o know that someone (identity known) put poison in Sir Freddie's drink, which led to his eventual death. This evidence comes from someone who spent the last few years of the King's life looking after him and was therefore very close to him. I therefore fail to see why you think that your allegations are stronger than what you call Matovu's "false accusations". On the other hand, you might be confusing your information with that about a known alcoholic in Lusaka. Kasangwawo From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: Matovu! Eddy Mutesa (RIP) was an Alcoholic! Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 23:19:36 -0400 Matovu, We know that Kabaka Fred Mutesa (RIP) was a seroius alcoholic case. And he died from Alcohol Poisoning. My evidence comes from a cery good friend of mine, but he was
ugnet_: Fw: Baluwa mu Bukedde
Title: Baluwa mu Bukedde Netters Here is the exact problem of Buganda Em The Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" - Original Message - From: To: 'Mulindwa Edward' Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 4:05 AM Subject: Baluwa mu Bukedde Museveni ojja kutulekera ani? NSABA ontuusize okusiima kwange eri Pulezidenti Musveni okutukuuma obulungi n'ebyaffe ebbanga lyonna ng'okyali ku bukulembeze.Naye ekisanja kyo bwe kinaaba kiweddeko ani gw'onootulekera n'atukuuma n'ebyaffe nga ggwe bw'obadde obitukuumidde?Ekirala weebale kuteeka mu bajaasi mpisa, ne bw'oba omusanze obeera nga asanze omuntu waabulijjo.Kibirige Dembelya Museveni,Kisalosaloo Zone,Kyebando.
ugnet_: Re: ugnet_: 'Federo' is a fantasy
Mwaami Musaazi You are using a wrong terminology here, what we have in Uganda today is not a negotiation of federalism, it is a Buganda attack on all national institutions for her own benefit. An act that Ugandans have vehemently refused. And I will give you examples (1) Mengo asked for Kampala which it knew was Uganda's capital and built by Ugandans. When Ugandans refused it Mengo said if we do not get Kampala we do not take that federalism (2) They then asked for Uganda Revenue Authority, the government said No, Mengo responded that with out it they do not want federalism. And I can go on and on with such examples of unrealistic requests. Can you tell me one instance where Buganda's request was refused and Mengo moved on? The formula is either give us this or we are out of here. Secondly I do not even think that Buganda has a right to negotiate with NRM on how to install this federalism, in fact the smart thing NRM should have done would have been to send Buganda back to Mengo and ask them to negotiate with other units, then all of them to come back to Uganda government with a finished document, for there is no way Uganda government can negotiate with pieces. But NRM would have done that if it was interested in putting real federalism in Uganda, what NRM wants today is Buganda's vote for the sad term, and if giving them a half baked federalism is the bait, so be it. Remember you are dealing with very shrewd people. Lastly some of us are wondering whether NRM has even the authority to negotiate the fate of our nation. Remember they came to power by force of arms they were never elected to come to power, and since then they failed to even turn into a political party, we still have a Resistance Council which to now we do not know who elected it, running our nation. And that Council understands its limitations that is why you see that they do not make national decisions which will be internationally recognised, for they know that they will not. An example is the failure to establish a Uganda Army. For they know that they can not commission officers. How can they turn a nation from Unitary to federalism? Those are questions Mengo should have asked before they claimed ownership on Uganda Revenue Authority. But hey it is all a fantasy!! Be well Em The Mulindwas Communication Group With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy Groupe de communication Mulindwas avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie - Original Message - From: emmanuel musaazi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 5:12 PM Subject: Re: ugnet_: 'Federo' is a fantasy Whoever was responsible for this editorial, does not understand the concept of federalism. First of all how does he know that the final federal system agreed upon will take the shape he is outlining (talk about puting the cart before the horse). The final system will depend on negotiations which will involve a lot of tradeoffs and compromises, it's not about 'winner takes all'. Secondly, the Primeminister does not have to be the Kabaka (there doesn't even need to be a prime minister). Federalism will help spread development around the country, new city capitals will spring up and along with them jobs, institutions of learning and investements. Federalism will also help to reduce the concentration of power at the center which will on the long run enhance democracy. As for taxes, well a tax sharing and allocation formular will be part of the negotiations, this is why i said that the more the number of regions involved in the negotiations the better for the whole country. Right now everybody is only hearing the Buganda proposal because other regions have not formaly and in an organized fashion, put forward their proposals. The other regions should stop wining and come with ideas, that is what democracy is all about, isn't it, democracy lovers? From: Mitayo Potosi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: 'Federo' is a fantasy Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 17:35:19 + Editorial : newvision 26/8/2003 'Federo' is a fantasy CABINET HAS decided to push for the lifting of term limits for the presidency and a return to federo. However, a representative of the Buganda kingdom has responded that the two issues should be delinked. He is right. The two issues are both too complex to consider together. In particular the restoration of federo, or a federal kingdom, is risky. Firstly, the dominance of the Buganda kingdom at independence created a political imbalance that destabilised the country. Secondly, a federal kingdom is not the most progressive form of government. As head of state, the Kabaka will appoint chiefs, ministers and officials. What will happen to the authority of democratically elected LC5 and LC3 officials? Thirdly, is an additional layer of administration in Buganda even
ugnet_: Re: Rebels Kill Popular Teso College Teacher
I strongly believe that some of this so called LRA Rebels are actually UPDF troops. That is why I always refer to the LRA as (THE SO CALLED LRA REBELS) . Many UPDF troops, you will agree with me are terribly demoralize. They are demoralized (if we are to believe commander Salim Selah's). a) The UPDF, as you known, have been fighting wars for now 18 years. This troops are tired. b) The UPDF lacks even basic army uniform. Many are seen walking with what we use to call KIRAKA at the back. ...Many more simply have no shoes.. they have to go to battle to fight the so called KONY in Slippers. Given this kind of senerio, some members of the UPDF ( I I strongly believe ) are encouraged to become " KONY REBELS." at night!!! who is going to tell the difference between the so called KONY REBEL and genunine UPDF soldier.? .. if both are operating at night? ..and so some of the atrocities blamed on KONY REBELS ( like the murder of this Teso College Teacher) could have been easly carried out by degrantled UPDF soldier... and then of course, KONY is blamed!.. Matek In a message dated 8/27/2003 1:35:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Matek: The interesting thing about the so called LRA rebels in Teso is that not a single one of them has been arrested and interogated by police to testify to their origin. The whole fiasco is a SAD term strategy. An attempt to generate a crisis that does not exist. It is a cynical abuse of human life, diginity and human rights. The truth is we are faced with an abomination of some kind. Ok.
ugnet_: reeds or metal beams
JUSTICE PARTY www.idr.co.ug/dfwa-u/Nymapp/justice.htm Masindi community funded school THE Ministry of Education has said the the construction of ring beams with reeds at St. Pauls Pakanyi Primary School in Masindi was done by the community, reports Kyetume Kasanga. The ministrys engineering assistant, Henry Kisitu, denied that the funds used were from the School Facilitation Grant. The media recently quoted the district chairman, John Majara, criticising the school management for allowing contractors to use reeds instead of metal bars. Govt ready to register private institutions THE commissioner for high education in the ministry of education, Acado Anyeko, has said the Government is ready to register private educational institutions, schools, universities and colleges that come up. He was recently addressing the 4th graduation of the United Media Consultant and Trainers School (UMCAT). Anyeko said the Government was happy with the performance of the private institutions in the country. bwanika url: www.idr.co.ug Logon & Join in ug-academicsdb discussion list http://www.coollist.com/subcribe.html List ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your Email address: ~~ ~~ url: http://uhpl.uganda.co.ug http://pub59.ezboard.com/fugandamanufacturersassociationfrm1
ugnet_: Fwd: Opoka is `alive', Kony FM on air and what else?
Ear to The Ground By Charles Onyango-Obbo Opoka is `alive', Kony FM on air and what else? August 27, 2003 The Lord's Resistance Army (LRA) does not allow journalists to cover the fighting in the north and its activities in southern Sudan from its side. The result is that the perennial problem of understanding what the LRA is up to remains. Occasionally a trader gets some information; a religious leader might receive some insights; humanitarian workers do get interesting facts; some diplomats have fairly reliable information; journalists are able to piece together valuable perspectives because they speak to the most sources including exiles; and some elements of the Sudan People's Liberation Army (SPLA) rebels of Dr John Garang are very good. One advantage from being a journalist in Nairobi is that because Kenya still happens to the region's travel hub and has the largest number of foreign journalists in Africa after South Africa and Egypt, an incredible amount of information can be got about behind-the- scenes Ugandan politics and the rebellion. Close Uganda watchers with their ear to the ground are able to pick up interesting snippets about the LRA rebellion in the north, and why it recently shifted to Teso. One of the reasons for the move to Teso by LRA, according to sources, is because the food stocks are low in Acholi, the region where the rebels have been most active. The attacks in Lango have not been because Kony has any strategic interest there. Rather it is because Lango lies along the transit route from Sudan, Acholi to Teso. But that is only part of the story. One thing that watchers of the conflict in the north say is that it is notable that the LRA has never successfully attacked Gulu town or Kitgum. Some see this as indication that the LRA are not predominantly Acholi, and do not actually know the area very well. It is alleged that this is borne out if one tunes to the Gulu Catholic church's radio that the rebels stole. Acholi sources claim that several of the people on the radio speak with Lango and Teso accents. Apparently the LRA broadcasts at 8 a.m, 12 o'clock, and 6p.m! Why Teso? It is alleged that after the first war in Teso ended, there were many ex-rebels of the London-based Peter Otai's Uganda People's Army (UPA) in the country and some outside who were waiting to benefit from \the amnesty and resettlement. The government allegedly never delivered. This year in March, sources claim, there was a meeting in London of a handful of Ugandan dissidents, including Otai. Apparently after the meeting, these dissidents activated some of their men, who were either infiltrated into northern Uganda, and were joined by a few others who were inside. These formed a core of about 300 trained men, some of whom are believed to have joined the LRA. How they joined up with the northern rebels is not clear. A few details are, however, known. Some of them came in through Sudan, but not by or via the support of elements of the Khartoum government. A new development in southern Sudan is probably the biggest new threat to Ugandan security in that region. While Khartoum has always been unhappy with Uganda's support for Garang's SPLA, it is support for the LRA was always limited to using the Ugandan rebels as a bargaining chip. However, other southern Sudan groups are even angrier with President Yoweri Museveni, saying his support for SPLA was anti-Sudan people because Garang's organisation is brutal, and a partisan movement that is not interested in uniting the southern Sudanese people as a whole. A new Sudanese force, the Equatorial Defence Forces are alleged to now be backing Kony in retaliation. A soon-to-be published study of the conflict in the north and southern Sudan by Uganda's Prof. Dani Nabudere gives a lot of fascinating insights into this. After the London meeting, the LRA is reported to have met and changed its command at a kacoke madit (assembly) held in April in a place called Ogili, in Chua county, Kitgum. Vincent Otti was removed as commander of the LRA, and replaced with Brig Charles Tabuley. The significant thing about this is that Tabuley is a former UPA rebel. He is not from Acholi, but Katakwi in Teso which is one of the places most affected by the LRA's move to the north east. And he is as Etesot as you can get. His real name is Okiring. This, according to various sources, is another reason why the LRA moved to Teso. It is believed that there are many other changes in the LRA command, and the new alliances with other dissidents have altered some of the politics and interests of the LRA. There are also reports from several humanitarian and church sources that other factors on the ground are allowing secondary forces to organise in the north. For example, they say that James Opoka, a former campaign aide of now-exiled ex-presidential candidate, Col. Kizza Besigye, was not killed with Kony forces in the north earlier this year.
Re: ugnet_: HE WAS GREAT - SARAH AMIN
Bollocks ! If he was such a good man why did she run away from him ? From: Mulindwa Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED],Rwanda [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: HE WAS GREAT - SARAH AMIN Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 19:01:20 -0400 He was great - Sarah Amin SAD: Ex-first lady Sarah grieves in London On the wall of her living room where mourners assembled, hung a massive black-and-white picture of Idi Amin in full military decorations, reports Geoffrey Kulubya in London. Dr Amin was a good man, a good husband, a loving father and a great grand-father. With these words Sarah Kyolaba Amin, 47, summarised the life of her late husband, former Ugandan dictator Idi Amin Dada. Sarah, Amin's fifth wife, was speaking to The New Vision at Kizza Business Consultants premises in Forest Gate, East London on Sunday. Clad in a black suit, white blouse and black head gear, Sarah, who persistently called the late Amin Doctor, said she was disturbed that the Government of Uganda objected to Amin's return home when he was critically ill. Politics aside, Amin fought a lot for Ugandans and that should have been a very good example for him to return home, said the mother of four of Amin's children. Amin has the right to be buried in Uganda because he was Ugandan, she said. The sombre-faced former first lady said the whole family was saddened by Amin's death. She said, It's really sad. We hope that he will rest in peace. And we would like to thank the family, friends and everybody concerned who have been comforting us during this time of sadness. The children are saddened. I pray to God that He will make us recover from this big loss soon. Sarah, who did not attend Amin's burial, said she learned of his death through her stepson Aliga Amin who was at his father's death bed. I didn't attend the burial because it was a very quick burial, she said. Amin was buried the same day he died in accordance with the Islamic law. She intends to travel with her children to Mecca, Saudi Arabia, to visit Amin's grave. Sarah and Amin parted ways in 1983 and never saw each other again. She first went to Germany before relocating to London 12 years ago. Amin spotted her when she was only 16. Several Ugandans living in London joined Sarah to mourn Amin. Duwa prayers will be held today at Sarah's at Woodgreen, North London. By Sunday evening, 356 sympathisers had signed a condolence book at Sarah's residence. A handful including former Kampala Mayor Nasser Sebaggala spent Saturday night with Sarah at a vigil. Sebaggala said by burying Amin in Saudi Arabia, Uganda had lost the opportunity of attracting tourists to see Amin's grave. The Mulindwas Communication Group With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy Groupe de communication Mulindwas avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug
RE: ugnet_: Kasangwao, Matovu! Eddy Mutesa (RIP) was an Alcoholic!
Bwambuga, learned and knowledgeable indeed ! Who started this ...he said she said. stuff ? Just take a look at your posting of 9 August below. No, I'll help you. You say: My evidence comes from a cery good friend of mine, but he was sharing a girl friend with the Late Kabaka while he was still in power as President. And you call that reliable information ! Is there a better example of hearsay ? Kasangwawo From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ugnet_: Kasangwao, Matovu! Eddy Mutesa (RIP) was an Alcoholic! Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 07:19:46 -0400 Kasangwao, Your arguement is too cheap for me. I am very well learned and knowledgeable Uganda in case you did not know. I think you are doing total deservice to your nation, abd people by involving your self in ...he said she said. scheme. You are displaying mere ignorance and lack of information and ability to know what you are saying. God Bless your heart and children who God Willing, will grow up under your deceitfull environment. An behold you take pride in them. Bwambuga. Mulindwa Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kasangwawo On all accusations made, on all love Buganda has to her Kingdom, would Obote poison Muteesa and the person who knew about it decide to be anonymous except to you? Let us remember that what we are discussing today is both of great importance to a whole mass of people and the History of Uganda as a nation. So I would encourage every one to stick on the facts, for there are those who are going to read these facts and take them for whole truth and help you God. That is why I stated before that the cause of death of Mutesa was not by poison from Obote. Can I back that claim? Yes the Post Mortem made in London and in a nation which was against Obote is available. I hope you can produce the evidence backing that Some one, Secondly I stated that the funds which were sent to Mutesa and his family even after his death all way through to Amin, can be backed up by records in Bank of Uganda, which is in Uganda today. So let us not take these things that likely, for they are of great Historical importance. Em The Mulindwas Communication Group With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy Groupe de communication Mulindwas avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie - Original Message - From: jonah kasangwawo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 4:05 PM Subject: Re: ugnet_: Matovu! Eddy Mutesa (RIP) was an Alcoholic! Bwambuga, we also know that someone (identity known) put poison in Sir Freddie's drink, which led to his eventual death. This evidence comes from someone who spent the last few years of the King's life looking after him and was therefore very close to him. I therefore fail to see why you think that your allegations are stronger than what you call Matovu's false accusations. On the other hand, you might be confusing your information with that about a known alcoholic in Lusaka. Kasangwawo From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: Matovu! Eddy Mutesa (RIP) was an Alcoholic! Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 23:19:36 -0400 Matovu, We know that Kabaka Fred Mutesa (RIP) was a seroius alcoholic case. And he died from Alcohol Poisoning. My evidence comes from a cery good friend of mine, but he was sharing a girl friend with the Late Kabaka while he was still in power as President. This friend is a typical Muganda and big time supporter of the royalty. He says it was a well known fact among the late Kabaka's confidants that his alcohol would sooner rather than later kill him. And kill him it did. This should put to rest Matovu's false accusations of Obote. This is like the other quotation about a dead Muganda, Turns out those words were actually uttered by a typical Muganda, but hell wishers just pushed it to Obote to suit their ill intentioned politiking and subjecting Ugandans to false history. Bwambuga. Mulindwa Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mwaami Kasangwawo I do not think that any body in a right mind needs a proof of Amin's brutality, and I do not think that there is any body arguing about it, what is bothering people is the way we want to attack this problem of a Ugandan president whose family wants to take home and the operative word home not to Kololo, remember this man has a land he is not a beggar for land to be buried on, Amin is not like Kiseka who NRM had to borrow land to burry him officially, he is not like Lule who ended up in Kololo where any government will dig him up, trust me, for better use of that real estate. Amin wants to go to Koboko and rest. Whether alive or dead. Should have I gone into this discussion? And the answer is no, but I was very disturbed to see how the Museveni virus has affected Ugandans. We are not
Re: ugnet_: Diversity Visa 2005
If you cannot scan a 2 photo, you are already disqualified. uh! fnl Ed Kironde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HYPERLINK http://travel.state.gov/dv2005.htmlhttp://travel.state.gov/dv2005.html Intoxicated with a paperless society, the next diversity visa lottery is going to be paperless. All entries must be filed electronically including photos only in JPEG format as anything else will be rejected. If you cannot scan a 2 photo, you are already disqualified. The site HYPERLINK http://www.dvlottery.state.gov/http://www.dvlottery.state.gov is non functional and hopefully will be working for the 30 days - starting SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 1, 2003 AND TUESDAY, DECEMBER 30, 2003. On the site the government calls that period 60 days --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.510 / Virus Database: 307 - Release Date: 8/14/2003 __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug
ugnet_: Did Mandela betray his own revolution?
Did Mandela betray his own revolution? By Billet Magara ; Business tribune zw Nelson Mandela's Xhosa name Rolihlahla literally means pulling a tree branch. Symbolically it means troublemaker. The pre-treason trial Mandela was a man who brought chill winds into the Apartheid South African government's high echelons of power. He was a troublemaker who became a colossal symbol of the struggle for the freedom of a nation. Inevitably he was sent to Robben Island for half a lifetime with frenzied sharks for neighbours and the dehumanisation of the man began in enerst. What really happened in Prison? South African prisons were not designed as correctional facilities at all. They were places where the body and soul of inmates died physiological and psychological deaths. They were torture chambers that left individuals diseased marionettes of their former selves. How much of the former Nelson Mandela made it to independence and freedom? Towards the end of his detention, Nelson Mandela began to show signs of succumbing to the willpower of his captors. He initiated negotiations for his own release to the consternation of his fellow detainees. He wrote a letter to Koebe Coetsee, the Minister of Justice in the apartheid regime and asked for talks to be held between the African National Congress (ANC) and the government. Mandela was eventually isolated from his mates and was lavished with gifts and held countless meetings with the SA authorities, foreign dignitaries and senior officials of foreign intelligence services. The reactions from his mates were quite telling. Mandela's stable mate Walter Sisulu could not hide his disappointment. He said that he would have preferred that government initiate discussions rather than ANC initiate them. Ahmed Kathrada, another Mandela backer opposed the position taken by Mandela. But the most telling response came from Oliver Tambo in Lusaka. His note to Mandela was sharp and only fell short of calling him a traitor. In a revolution there are no private dealings with a public enemy. Such an unsanctioned move would be tantamount to treason itself. Mandela was moved to Pollsmoor prison with some of his mates but his isolated cell carried luxuries unseen in the cells of other inmates. It was his transfer to Victor Vester Prison that convinced other cadres that Mandela was selling out. Mandela was given a cottage with one storey, unbarred windows, a swimming pool, manicured green lawns, bodyguards and a chauffeur. Prison conditions were changing from Spartan to super luxury. Even the deputy commander of Pollmoor would give Mandela rides in luxury limousines in the city of Cape Town. Prison authorities under instruction from the government, knew the effect of providing limited freedoms to detainees. They knew that it would bring feelings of nostalgia and deep yearnings for true freedom and release from detention. They knew it would result in compromise. They pampered Mandela senseless. At one time the head of South African military intelligence, a certain Dr Niel Banaard, knelt down in front of Mandela in order to tie the undone shoelaces of his black prisoner! When Mandela was diagnosed with early tuberculosis, they moved him to Tygerbay Hospital on the grounds of the Stellenbosch University, Cape Town. They quickly moved him to Constantiaberg Clinic where the luxury and sophistication left a lasting impression on the man. He became the first black man to be treated at the all-white clinic. What an incentive! He met with senior government officials including PW Botha and when the latter suffered a stroke and resigned, Mandela met with the new president Fredrick Willem De Klerk and the secret committee. After his release, Mandela began to show signs that the system had got to his psyche. The colonial name of the country South Africa, which the world expected to be changed to AZANIA, was maintained and the apartheid symbols of the springbok were kept intact as well. Names of cities remained the same. People's lifestyles, standards of living deteriorated at the time of Mandela's government. He was popular among white people who could not believe their luck at the fact that their war crimes were no longer going to dog them through independence and beyond. South African parliamentarians used to quiz Mandela over his trips to London where he was always seen at the offices of the Scotland Yard and the MI5. Adequate explanations have never been acquired. One of the most startling things about Mandela was his naïve trust of everyone he met and worked with. One Dr Wouter Basson, a chemical and biological weapons expert, had been tasked to put a slow acting thallium poison and mescaline mind controlling drugs into Mandela's food and drink while at Pollsmoor. The same man came to Mandela and personally asked for a job as a kitchen chef in Mandela's Pretoria Mansion years later. Unbelievably, he got the job from Mandela himself. After Thabo Mbeki had Basson removed, Mandela had him rehired
ugnet_: Project Eagle: Americas military base in Botswana
This scares the wits out of me. Read on.. Billet Magara Project Eagle: Americas military base in Botswana In 1985 a military satellite, identified as American, was seen hovering over Southern African skies for several months. Debate raged as to the intentions of the US military in the region, which at that time had seen the independence of Zimbabwe five years earlier. It was said, then, that the west was probably looking for a strategic foothold in the region, which would be of geo-political advantage to them. Several challenges overshadowed United States interests in Southern Africa. The recent freedom and independence of Zimbabwe meant that Umkhonto weSizwe (MK), the fighting wing of the African National Congress (ANC) would have a closer launch pad against economic installations in apartheid South Africa. The imminent freedom of Namibia would also stretch the defences of the SA regime to the limit with SWAPO giving bases to MK. The inevitable freedom of South Africa itself was a thorn in the sides of multi-national companies whose interests sought protection from countries of origin such as USA and UK. The creation of a new military power block comprising countries such as Zimbabwe, South Africa, Namibia, Mozambique and Namibia was a palpable threat. Conflicts within the region were a possibility, which meant that in time, the region would become a bustling military bazaar for American, French, British and Canadian and opposing Russian, Ukrainian and Chinese weapons. What was required was the establishment of a military watchtower that could plunge the region into an inevitable war and arms race. Since the CIA had lost its base in the Liberian war, the ripe nation to establish another was Botswana. It was appropriate from many fronts. It was a peaceful country, rich with diamonds, small in population, with no defence to talk about and its top leadership had long-lasting relationships with the English throne and the American military. Sir Seretse Khama the founding president had married into the British royal family and their son, Brigadier General Ian Khama (an eligible bachelor for a long period) was a US trained military commando (West Point and Fort Bragg) who had done some refinement courses at Sandhurst Military Academy in the United Kingdom. Ian Khama, who had been asked to step down from the post of Defence Commander in order to be appointed deputy president, had done so. In the process he had amassed more power than his own head of state since he was also paramount chief of the bamangwato, Botswanas largest ethnic group. Unlike the heads of government of the SADCs prominent nations, South Africa, Zimbabwe, Namibia and Mozambique who were sympathetic to socialism by virtue of the military support they had obtained from socialist nations, Botswanas leaders had seen two of their contemporaries knighted by the queen and two (Ian Khama and Mopeti Merafhe) had received military training from the most senior western nations. After the largest joint military exercises ever seen in Southern African lands had been carried out between Botswana and the USA in January 1992, in an operation code named Operation Silver Eagle, the construction of the military base in Botswana accelerated. It was called Project Eagle. The eagle, spread-eagled and holding a tuft of arrows (symbol of aggression and war) in one set of talons, also holds a sheaf of olive leaves (symbol of peace) in the other, is the national emblem of the USA government. That the new base in Botswana is American (or NATO Alliance)-owned is undeniable. In 1998, when Susan Rice was Assistant Secretary of State (African Affairs) in Bill Clintons government, I was invited by the Public Affairs section of the US Embassy in Harare to be one of the panellists quizzing her on US policies on Africa. I asked her why the USA, which professed to promote peace in the region was actively involved in the construction of a military base called Project Eagle in Botswana at a time when the region was experiencing peace. She seemed quite startled by the question and feigned ignorance of the gist of my inquiry. There was a temporary off the camera consultation, after which I was asked to rephrase my question. I did, in the English sense of the word. Same question, different words, which is not what my American hosts had meant, I know. The response was, We are not aware of the project youre referring to. I felt as if I was Ian Smith asking Robert Mugabe whether he knew of certain forces called ZANLA. I could almost hear him answer, I have no idea what youre talking about. We are a non-violent movement. All politicians deny any information that has the potential of incriminating them or the institutions they represent. America is no exception. According to the Scientia Militaria Journal, volume 29 of 1999, page 3, the American and French-funded military base project has three sites in Botswana (Funds to the tune of 1
ugnet_: Attorney General in compensation scandal
Attorney General in compensation scandal By Emmanuel N. Mugarura August 27, 2003 The Attorney Generals (AG) office has been implicated in a Shs 21 billion scum accruing from a case won by evictees from Hoima district. According to the papers The Monitor saw, the evictees sued government through their association, Bugangaizi Settlers Rehabilitation and Development Association (BUSEREDA) in 1993 and in April 1999, they won the case winning a compensation of Shs 13,164,000,000. This would generate an interest of 6 per cent per annum, at Shs 787,680,000 per year since April 1993. Shs 500 million was first received in December 1999, and then Chairman of BUSEREDA Mr Benon Turyamureeba mismanaged it. The powers of attorney were removed from him at the intervention of then Minister of ethics and integrity Ms Miria Matembe. Turyamureeba had used ghost claimants to receive and sign the money. When the powers of attorney were given to the association, Turyamureeba colluded with officials in AGs office to continue remitting the funds to him. Turyamureeba used pseudo names and people to claim the money and today, of the about Shs 3.5 billion released, the beneficiaries have received only about Shs 1.5 billion. When The Monitor contacted the BUSEREDA chairman, Mr Paul Kitaburaza, he said the money has been mismanaged and yet there seems to be no concern. Turyamureeba goes around with people he claims are the beneficiaries when the rightful beneficiaries are suffering, he said. Kitaburaza said that at one time the group arrested masquerades and handed them over to police, which released them on bond. They are at large. They released them without charges and they have continued to receive the money in secrecy, he said. The Monitor saw a picture of a female ghost claimant whose picture was affixed under a mans name: Christopher Atuheire. The claimants met with the AG Mr Francis Ayume over the issue but what they agreed upon was violated. The issue of powers of attorney was discussed and resolved, why should the AG then continue to give the money to Turyamureeba? the members wondered. The AG said they disbursed the money through the plaintiffs lawyers, Mulenga co advocates. Our duty was to release the money and we did that. How they shared it is not our business, he said. Mr Denis Bireije, the Commissioner of Civil Litigation said the lawyers were given responsibility to distribute the money. However Mr Turyamureeba said that BUSEREDA did not win the case, but he won it as the plaintiff. I sued government as an evictee and won the case winning the awards in the process. How then does BUSEREDA come in, he asked. He said he had the powers of attorney to receive the money on behalf of the evicted group and distribute it. The right to identify and give out the money was vested in me. I have so far done my best, he said. But The Monitor has seen documents where Turyamureeba relieved his powers to BUSEREDA. He had taken his commission amounting to Shs 20 million from the released funds. He met with the AG and agreed to step aside to allow a new executive of BUSEREDA take over the management of the money from the AG. Turyamureeba later formed an association Mpokya Evictees Court Compensation Awarded Beneficiaries Association Ltd (MECCCABA) which continued to get the money from the AGs office. They accused Mr Michael Mawanda, of Super Star Auctioneers of taking over the funders responsibility, which would give him a 10 per cent of all the money released as his commission. They alleged that Mawanda was working in the shadows of AGs officials and the commissioner of Civil Litigation in the Justice ministry Mr Deus Byamugisha. Mawanda hijacked the case, there is no way he could have been the funding agent when we already ha the money, they said. But Mawanda said his role was just to help the beneficiaries access their money and he was to receive 10 per cent of he money as reimbursements. I helped them in transport and accommodation and I was to be refunded, he said He said he did not handle any payments as the claimants received individual cheques from the AG. The group has threatened to take to the streets if their money continues to be mismanaged. © 2003 The Monitor Publications \\\Always be a first rate version of yourself instead of a second rate version of someone else.\ Njoki Paul University of Pretoria This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug
ugnet_: Fwd: NYTimes.com Article: Passports and Visas to Add High-Tech Identity Features
/ advertisement ---\ Explore more of Starbucks at Starbucks.com. http://www.starbucks.com/default.asp?ci=1015 \--/ Passports and Visas to Add High-Tech Identity Features August 24, 2003 By JENNIFER 8. LEE WASHINGTON, Aug. 23 - Technologies that scan faces and fingerprints will become a standard part of travel for foreign visitors next year, and for all travelers in the near future. The technology, known as biometrics, has been developing for years, but largely because of security concerns after the attacks on Sept. 11, its arrival has been greatly accelerated. One deadline looms large - Oct. 26, 2004. In a little more than a year, the State Department and immigration bureau must begin issuing visas and other documents with the body-identifying technologies to foreign visitors. The change is mandated by border security legislation passed by Congress last May. The federal government has started issuing border-crossing cards for Mexican citizens and green cards that display fingerprints and photos. By the same deadline, the 27 countries whose citizens can travel to the United States without visas must begin issuing passports with computer chips containing facial recognition data or lose their special status. People from those countries with passports issued before the deadline may still travel to the United States without visas as long as their governments have begun biometric identification programs. Given the complexity of the technology, many countries are struggling to meet the deadline, and some in the industry say that it may have to be extended. Privacy advocates expressed dismay at what they see as pressure being applied to Europe. "Our government has forced on European governments the obligation to adopt biometric identifiers though most in the U.S. still oppose such systems," said Marc Rotenberg, the head of the Electronic Privacy Information Center, an advocacy group. He predicted, however, that the United States would soon adopt those same technologies. Officials from the State Department said mandatory use of the biometric identifiers is scheduled to begin in three years. They have announced plans to test American passports with computer chips by Oct. 26, 2004. At a recent card technology conference, the deputy assistant secretary of state for passport services, Frank Moss, said the department planned to have all new passports containing biometric data by 2006 at an estimated annual cost of $100 million. About 55 million American passports are in circulation, and 7 million are issued annually. "Including the standards and implementing the standards, not only is it more secure for other countries, it's more secure for us," said Kelly Shannon, a spokeswoman for the State Department. "The idea is that it is contingent on reciprocal treatment for United States citizens." The adoption of biometric technologies has been held back for years by concerns about privacy and reliability, along with a lack of uniform standards. But in the last two years policies and standards have begun to catch up with the technologies. The new biometrics technologies are meant to cut down on subjectivity in photo identification. Right now, the border agent must decide if it is really the person in the photograph or simply someone who resembles that person. Biometric systems take digital measurements of a person's fingerprints, face, retinas or other characteristics and store the information on a computer chip or a machine-readable strip, which can be retrieved at border check points. Upon arrival, travelers will be asked to put their fingers on scanners and to stand in front of facial recognition cameras to see if their measurements match the ones stored on the visa or passport. Biometric systems tested by the United States at the Mexican border have been sensitive enough to distinguish between identical twins. The biometrics are part of a larger arc of tightening security with identification documents as people have become more mobile over the last century, a trend that intensified after the 9/11 attacks. The new computer-chip passports are based on an international standard set in May by the International Civil Aviation Organization, a United Nations agency. The new passports will use facial recognition technology contained on encrypted computer chips similar to those found in so-called smart cards. "What was required was a globally interoperable biometric - one biometric that could be used worldwide and can be read worldwide," said Denis Shagnon, spokesman for the organization. Under the new standards, countries would also be allowed to add additional biometric technologies to the passports, like fingerprints or iris scans. "It's very user-friendly; it's unobtrusive," he said. Many privacy advocates
ugnet_: Fwd: NYTimes.com Article: The End of Evolution?
/ advertisement ---\ Explore more of Starbucks at Starbucks.com. http://www.starbucks.com/default.asp?ci=1015 \--/ The End of Evolution? August 24, 2003 By NICHOLAS WADE The most improbable item in science fiction movies is not the hardware - the faster-than-light travel, the tractor beams, the levitation - but the people. Strangely, they always look and behave just like us. Yet the one safe prediction about the far future is that humans will be a lot further along in their evolution. Last week population geneticists, rummaging in DNA's ever-fascinating attic, set dates on two important changes in the human form. Dr. Alan R. Rogers of the University of Utah figured out that the ancestral human population had acquired black skin, as a protection against the sun, at least 1.2 million years ago, and therefore that it must have shed its fur some time before this date. Clothing came long after we were naked. Dr. Mark Stoneking, of the Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig, managed to address this question by calculating when the human body louse (which lives only in clothing, not hair) evolved from the human head louse. That proud event in human history dates to between 72,000 and 42,000 years ago, Dr. Stoneking reported So where do we go from here? Have we attained perfection and ceased to evolve? Many geneticists think that is very unlikely, though few find it easy to say where we are headed or how fast. Until the agricultural revolution 10,000 years ago, people used to live in small populations with little gene flow between them. That is the best situation for rapid evolution, said Sewall Wright, one of the founders of population genetics. But Sir Ronald A. Fisher, another founder of the discipline, argued that large populations with random mating - just what globalization and air travel are helping to bring about - were the best fodder for rapid evolution. "Which of them is right? No one really knows," Dr. Rogers said. Considering that the common ancestor of humans and chimpanzees lived only 5 to 6 million years ago, human evolution seems to have been quite rapid. The chimp, our closest living relative, is still a standard ape, whereas we have become a truly weird one. And our evolution put on an extra spurt just 50,000 years ago, the date when we may have perfected language, made our first objets d'art and dispersed from our ancestral homeland some place in northeast Africa. Despite the medical advances and creature comforts that shelter people in rich countries, natural selection is still hard at work. Microbes and parasites still nip at our heels, forcing the human genome to stay in constant motion. It is clearly in the throes of adapting to malaria, a disease that seems to have struck only in the last 8,000 years, and the protective gene that has sickle cell anemia as a side effect is a sign of a hasty patch. It seems reasonable to predict that the human physical form will stay in equilibrium with its surroundings. If the ozone layer thins, pale skins will be out and dark skins de rigeur. If climate heats up, the adaptations for living in hot places will spread, though it could take tens or hundreds of generations for a new gene to become widespread. Sexual selection, too, is busily at work. This powerful process, first recognized by Darwin, works on traits that are attractive to other sex, and help the owner's genes spread into the next generation. The peacock's tail, a wonder of the natural world, has been created by the sexual preference of generations of peahens. Human skin color and hair distribution may be pale echoes of the same process. Recent social changes may have accelerated the pace of sexual selection. "You used to marry a lass from your local village, now it's anyone you can track down on the Internet," said Dr. Mark Pagel, an evolutionary biologist at the University of Reading in England. Though features like the peacock's tail are chosen for aesthetic, or arbitrary, reasons, they often seem to be correlated with health, and indeed their owners are chosen as mates because these features subliminally advertise a good immune system or freedom from parasites. So if sexual selection in people becomes more intense as people have a wider choice of mates, that suggests a terribly Panglossian forecast: we will become more healthy and ever more beautiful. Most animals struggle to survive in a harsh environment, beset by accidents and predators. Humans got that problem largely under control long ago but live in a fiercer jungle - that of a human society. Indeed, social intelligence - the ability to keep track of a society's hierarchy and what chits an individual owed to others or had due - may have been a factor in the increase of human brain size. As the prevalence of
Re: ugnet_: Re: ugnet_: 'Federo' is a fantasy
I think you are insidiously mis-stating the facts when you say 'buganda asked for Kampala and Uganda Revenue Authority, as usual your statements are designed to incite and divide rather than unite and heal. Given the nonchalant attitude of the other regions on the issue, it appears Buganda has been forced to go it alone. Anyway i am not in support of federalism because Buganda is pushing for it, rather i see it as a remedy to most of our global problems as a nation such as, tribalism, nepotism and despotism. This ought to be the focus, not killing the issue just because you have an axe to grind with Buganda and Museveni and in the process throwing away the baby with the bathwater. For even allowing the dialogue to start the government should be applauded, their motives irrespective. Netters can you remember another government in Uganda where dialogue on national issues was so broad, free and unsensored, both at home and abroad? Where you have free expression of ideas from both sides of an issue without feeling that your life was in eminent danger? If that isn't progress then i don't know what is. From: Mulindwa Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: Re: ugnet_: 'Federo' is a fantasy Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 06:23:18 -0400 Mwaami Musaazi You are using a wrong terminology here, what we have in Uganda today is not a negotiation of federalism, it is a Buganda attack on all national institutions for her own benefit. An act that Ugandans have vehemently refused. And I will give you examples (1) Mengo asked for Kampala which it knew was Uganda's capital and built by Ugandans. When Ugandans refused it Mengo said if we do not get Kampala we do not take that federalism (2) They then asked for Uganda Revenue Authority, the government said No, Mengo responded that with out it they do not want federalism. And I can go on and on with such examples of unrealistic requests. Can you tell me one instance where Buganda's request was refused and Mengo moved on? The formula is either give us this or we are out of here. Secondly I do not even think that Buganda has a right to negotiate with NRM on how to install this federalism, in fact the smart thing NRM should have done would have been to send Buganda back to Mengo and ask them to negotiate with other units, then all of them to come back to Uganda government with a finished document, for there is no way Uganda government can negotiate with pieces. But NRM would have done that if it was interested in putting real federalism in Uganda, what NRM wants today is Buganda's vote for the sad term, and if giving them a half baked federalism is the bait, so be it. Remember you are dealing with very shrewd people. Lastly some of us are wondering whether NRM has even the authority to negotiate the fate of our nation. Remember they came to power by force of arms they were never elected to come to power, and since then they failed to even turn into a political party, we still have a Resistance Council which to now we do not know who elected it, running our nation. And that Council understands its limitations that is why you see that they do not make national decisions which will be internationally recognised, for they know that they will not. An example is the failure to establish a Uganda Army. For they know that they can not commission officers. How can they turn a nation from Unitary to federalism? Those are questions Mengo should have asked before they claimed ownership on Uganda Revenue Authority. But hey it is all a fantasy!! Be well Em The Mulindwas Communication Group With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy Groupe de communication Mulindwas avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie - Original Message - From: emmanuel musaazi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 5:12 PM Subject: Re: ugnet_: 'Federo' is a fantasy Whoever was responsible for this editorial, does not understand the concept of federalism. First of all how does he know that the final federal system agreed upon will take the shape he is outlining (talk about puting the cart before the horse). The final system will depend on negotiations which will involve a lot of tradeoffs and compromises, it's not about 'winner takes all'. Secondly, the Primeminister does not have to be the Kabaka (there doesn't even need to be a prime minister). Federalism will help spread development around the country, new city capitals will spring up and along with them jobs, institutions of learning and investements. Federalism will also help to reduce the concentration of power at the center which will on the long run enhance democracy. As for taxes, well a tax sharing and allocation formular will be part of the negotiations, this is why i said that the more the number of regions involved in the negotiations the better for the whole country.
