date:20031105




Re-write that national 
anthem 
For about 41 long years Ugandans have sang the three 
stanzas of the 'National Anthem'. They have done this continually in schools in 
the same vein without trying to practice what they preach in it.
It bothers one that people 
were forced to cram and recite things they do not understand. For instance, 
"Together we'll always stand," How can a country that has failed to abstain from 
war for even a single day stand together?
Stanza two is probably the 
most incomprehensible "O Uganda, the land of freedom...". Where is the 
implied freedom in this troubled land of ours?'Our love and labour we give' 
Where is the 'love' and 'labour' when people are suffering and dying? With some 
girls sleeping in Parliament because of the free labour they give.
How many times have we 
pointed a finger at Sudan, Rwanda and the DR. Congo? I am glad the composer 
of those lines is still around. He is not in exile.Will you, Mr George 
Kakoma and the other people who contributed to writing of that anthem render 
another edition of this piece of music that befits our dark purpose as a 
bellicose nation.
Olukor 
Stephen,Light High School.
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Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in 
anarchy" 
Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans 
l'anarchie"

Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero

2003-11-05 Thread Adam Dada

Musaazi - The hatred that Mulindwa (that is his nickname on account of the 
long time he and his parents spent in Bombo - his real name probably starts 
with O, or A) has never ceased to amaze me. I, however, fail to 
understand why he even still uses that nickname, rather than reverting back 
to his luo name. Some of us appreciate the hospitality offered to us by 
Buganda and I hate to see extremists the likes of Mulindwa malign Buganda 
and Baganda whenever an opportunity arises. Just goes to show the mind of 
the man and his intent. However much you hate someone, you sometimes reserve 
a kind word rightly due to them - not for Mulindwa. With that attitude, he 
is lucky to be safely tucked away in Canada as a fugitive from justice in 
Buganda for his reported participation in UPC atrocities. Uganda simply has 
no kinds words these days for extremists the likes of Mulindwa and so, 
just like his hero Obote, the man is most likely to spend all his days in 
Canada. I believe he is stung by that prospect thats why he is a bitter old 
man. My advice to you Musaazi is: dont waste your precious time with the 
punk - he is an unemployable fella, on social benefits and all he does is 
sit around on the computer and peddle his Buganda hatred with nothing else 
to do. He is a just social misfit as anyone in Toronto who knows him will 
tell intimate. You Musaazi, being a learned guy, are too cheap for such 
outright unmitigated nosense.
Dada

From: Lisa Toro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:46:35 -
emmanuel musaazi,

You display serious inferiority complex! wake up Uganda is bigger than one
man. Take care you might end up in a mental hospital.
Toro

- Original Message -
From: emmanuel musaazi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 2:16 AM
Subject: Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero
 I can see Mulindwa that you have realized your mistake, guilty conscence
is
 eating at you. Mulindwa you don't need to feel guilty about what you 
said
 after all it is a belief you are intitled to. On the issue of me 
saying
 you hate Baganda...well if what i responded to is not anti-Buganda
rhetoric
 thenbut well i guess it is your belief that you were complementing
 Baganda. Anyway my belief is that what you put up showed a hatred for
 Baganda, that is my belief. You have your belief i have mine end of
 story.

 Mulindwa you left something out howeverwhat about OBOTE'S 
EDUCATIONAL
 BACKGROUND. Since you are so kin to expose late President Yusuf Lule's
 ignorance (remember you said he was not a professor and bla bla bal..),
can
 you tell us about Obote's educational backgroundafterall you don't
miss
 a chance to call him Dris it true for example that he was a high
 school drop out, who never had a university education? What about his
 drinking?you claim to be neutral so here is your chance to prove it.


 From: Edward Mulindwa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero
 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:43:00 -0500
 
 Mwaami Musaazi
 
 You see I respond to you when ever you make sense, but this posting I 
see
 nothing to respond to. I am sorry.
 Except you have made a remark that I feel I must clear out, and I quote
 I'm
 asking since you had the indignity of insulting a dead man. Now I 
delude
 my
 self that you are referring to my calling our past president a 
drunkard.
 Now why did you think that I mentioned that for I hate Baganda? May be 
I
 have a thing on Moslems, for he was a Moslem. My be I have a thing on
 Moslems who turn Christians for they want to be enrolled in the then
 prestigious Buddo, which would not at a time take a Moslem, for he did.
Why
 were you only concerned for I raised the issue for he was a Muganda?
 
 And lastly Mwaami Musaazi, let us put some sense into this discussion, 
if
 my
 calling Professor Lule a drunkard who dies of Alcohol poison in his
body,
 is not a true fact, please by all means state so. And if you do not 
know,
 do
 the civilized thing and shut the hell up. For it must bother any body 
who
 sees that you are concerned by a comment done against a past president,
and
 you can only cover it with You hate Baganda  Mwaami Musaazi be 
sensible
 for once, what did Lule die from? Feel us in.
 
 Em
 
  The Mulindwas Communication Group
 With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy
  Groupe de communication Mulindwas
 avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: emmanuel musaazi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 10:01 AM
 Subject: Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero
 
 
   My gosh Mulindwa, your hatred for Buganda is

Re: ugnet_: Museveni in America

2003-11-05 Thread Y Yaobang

musaazi,
There is nothing new in what dictator Museveni is spewing; this nothing new to most of the world. Anyhow, it is good news that he seems to belearning something -- the bald headed one has come a long way since his banana barter trade policy with Cuba!
y
From: "emmanuel musaazi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: ugnet_: Museveni in America 
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 15:55:04 -0500 

UGANDA: President pleads with developed nations to end protectionism 
KAMPALA, 4 Nov 2003 (IRIN) - Ugandas president, Yoweri Museveni, on 
Monday made 
an impassioned plea to governments in the developed world to end 
protectionist trade policies which prevent poor countries from 
competing effectively in the global marketplace. 

He was speaking at the 53rd plenary meeting of the 58th session of 
the United Nations General Assembly in New York, as part of a 
five-day official working visit aimed at promoting business and 
tourism opportunities for Uganda. 

A presidential press release quoted Museveni as saying that 
desperate poverty and aid dependence would continue in Africa as 
long as the United States, European Union and Japan continue 
practising protectionism by closing their markets to products from 
Africa. 

He mentioned punitively high tariffs as one feature of world trade 
that would need to be fixed if developing countries are to have any 
chance of lifting themselves out of poverty. 

President Museveni criticised efforts made so far to develop African 
economies through exporting cash crops and other raw materials. 

There is no way an economy can develop that is solely dependent on 
agricultural and mineral exports in their raw form, he said, The 
real solution to Africas persistent poverty lies in the 
diversification of the economies of the developing countries of 
Africa. 

He gave the example of coffee and noted that the total coffee 
business in the world stood at US $71billion, but only US $500 
million went to producing countries. 

Last September, World Trade Organisation (WTO) talks in the Mexican 
resort town of Cancun collapsed after the developing countries 
walked out. They complained that the United States, Japan and the EU 
were being insincere and one-sided in their efforts to open up 
markets. 

They said trade tariffs on finished products from the developing 
world were too high. They also complained that massive agricultural 
subsidies from the US and EU governments gave big agri-businesses in 
the developed world an unfair advantage over third world farmers. 

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Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero

Has she answered my question? No she did not.

Em

The Mulindwas Communication Group
With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie
- Original Message -
From: Adam Dada [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 4:46 AM
Subject: Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero


 Musaazi - The hatred that Mulindwa (that is his nickname on account of
the
 long time he and his parents spent in Bombo - his real name probably
starts
 with O, or A) has never ceased to amaze me. I, however, fail to
 understand why he even still uses that nickname, rather than reverting
back
 to his luo name. Some of us appreciate the hospitality offered to us by
 Buganda and I hate to see extremists the likes of Mulindwa malign
Buganda
 and Baganda whenever an opportunity arises. Just goes to show the mind of
 the man and his intent. However much you hate someone, you sometimes
reserve
 a kind word rightly due to them - not for Mulindwa. With that attitude,
he
 is lucky to be safely tucked away in Canada as a fugitive from justice in
 Buganda for his reported participation in UPC atrocities. Uganda simply
has
 no kinds words these days for extremists the likes of Mulindwa and so,
 just like his hero Obote, the man is most likely to spend all his days in
 Canada. I believe he is stung by that prospect thats why he is a bitter
old
 man. My advice to you Musaazi is: dont waste your precious time with the
 punk - he is an unemployable fella, on social benefits and all he does is
 sit around on the computer and peddle his Buganda hatred with nothing else
 to do. He is a just social misfit as anyone in Toronto who knows him will
 tell intimate. You Musaazi, being a learned guy, are too cheap for such
 outright unmitigated nosense.
 Dada

 From: Lisa Toro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero
 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:46:35 -
 
 emmanuel musaazi,
 
 You display serious inferiority complex! wake up Uganda is bigger than
one
 man. Take care you might end up in a mental hospital.
 
 
 Toro
 
 - Original Message -
 From: emmanuel musaazi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 2:16 AM
 Subject: Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero
 
 
   I can see Mulindwa that you have realized your mistake, guilty
conscence
 is
   eating at you. Mulindwa you don't need to feel guilty about what you
 said
   after all it is a belief you are intitled to. On the issue of me
 saying
   you hate Baganda...well if what i responded to is not anti-Buganda
 rhetoric
   thenbut well i guess it is your belief that you were
complementing
   Baganda. Anyway my belief is that what you put up showed a hatred
for
   Baganda, that is my belief. You have your belief i have mine end
of
   story.
  
   Mulindwa you left something out howeverwhat about OBOTE'S
 EDUCATIONAL
   BACKGROUND. Since you are so kin to expose late President Yusuf Lule's
   ignorance (remember you said he was not a professor and bla bla
bal..),
 can
   you tell us about Obote's educational backgroundafterall you don't
 miss
   a chance to call him Dris it true for example that he was a high
   school drop out, who never had a university education? What about his
   drinking?you claim to be neutral so here is your chance to prove
it.
  
  
   From: Edward Mulindwa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero
   Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:43:00 -0500
   
   Mwaami Musaazi
   
   You see I respond to you when ever you make sense, but this posting I
 see
   nothing to respond to. I am sorry.
   Except you have made a remark that I feel I must clear out, and I
quote
   I'm
   asking since you had the indignity of insulting a dead man. Now I
 delude
   my
   self that you are referring to my calling our past president a
 drunkard.
   Now why did you think that I mentioned that for I hate Baganda? May
be
 I
   have a thing on Moslems, for he was a Moslem. My be I have a thing on
   Moslems who turn Christians for they want to be enrolled in the then
   prestigious Buddo, which would not at a time take a Moslem, for he
did.
 Why
   were you only concerned for I raised the issue for he was a
Muganda?
   
   And lastly Mwaami Musaazi, let us put some sense into this
discussion,
 if
   my
   calling Professor Lule a drunkard who dies of Alcohol poison in his
 body,
   is not a true fact, please by all means state so. And if you do not
 know,
   do
   the civilized thing and shut the hell up. For it must bother any body
 who
   sees that you are concerned by a comment done against a past
president,
 and
   you can only cover it with You hate Baganda  Mwaami Musaazi be
 sensible

Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero

2003-11-05 Thread Lutimba Matovu

Adam,

Well spoken. 

LM

--- Adam Dada [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Musaazi - The hatred that Mulindwa (that is his
 nickname on account of the 
 long time he and his parents spent in Bombo - his
 real name probably starts 
 with O, or A) has never ceased to amaze me. I,
 however, fail to 
 understand why he even still uses that nickname,
 rather than reverting back 
 to his luo name. Some of us appreciate the
 hospitality offered to us by 
 Buganda and I hate to see extremists the likes of
 Mulindwa malign Buganda 
 and Baganda whenever an opportunity arises. Just
 goes to show the mind of 
 the man and his intent. However much you hate
 someone, you sometimes reserve 
 a kind word rightly due to them - not for
 Mulindwa. With that attitude, he 
 is lucky to be safely tucked away in Canada as a
 fugitive from justice in 
 Buganda for his reported participation in UPC
 atrocities. Uganda simply has 
 no kinds words these days for extremists the likes
 of Mulindwa and so, 
 just like his hero Obote, the man is most likely to
 spend all his days in 
 Canada. I believe he is stung by that prospect thats
 why he is a bitter old 
 man. My advice to you Musaazi is: dont waste your
 precious time with the 
 punk - he is an unemployable fella, on social
 benefits and all he does is 
 sit around on the computer and peddle his Buganda
 hatred with nothing else 
 to do. He is a just social misfit as anyone in
 Toronto who knows him will 
 tell intimate. You Musaazi, being a learned guy, are
 too cheap for such 
 outright unmitigated nosense.
 Dada
 
 From: Lisa Toro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero
 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:46:35 -
 
 emmanuel musaazi,
 
 You display serious inferiority complex! wake up
 Uganda is bigger than one
 man. Take care you might end up in a mental
 hospital.
 
 
 Toro
 
 - Original Message -
 From: emmanuel musaazi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 2:16 AM
 Subject: Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero
 
 
   I can see Mulindwa that you have realized your
 mistake, guilty conscence
 is
   eating at you. Mulindwa you don't need to feel
 guilty about what you 
 said
   after all it is a belief you are intitled to.
 On the issue of me 
 saying
   you hate Baganda...well if what i responded to
 is not anti-Buganda
 rhetoric
   thenbut well i guess it is your belief
 that you were complementing
   Baganda. Anyway my belief is that what you put
 up showed a hatred for
   Baganda, that is my belief. You have your
 belief i have mine end of
   story.
  
   Mulindwa you left something out howeverwhat
 about OBOTE'S 
 EDUCATIONAL
   BACKGROUND. Since you are so kin to expose late
 President Yusuf Lule's
   ignorance (remember you said he was not a
 professor and bla bla bal..),
 can
   you tell us about Obote's educational
 backgroundafterall you don't
 miss
   a chance to call him Dris it true for
 example that he was a high
   school drop out, who never had a university
 education? What about his
   drinking?you claim to be neutral so here is
 your chance to prove it.
  
  
   From: Edward Mulindwa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero
   Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:43:00 -0500
   
   Mwaami Musaazi
   
   You see I respond to you when ever you make
 sense, but this posting I 
 see
   nothing to respond to. I am sorry.
   Except you have made a remark that I feel I
 must clear out, and I quote
   I'm
   asking since you had the indignity of insulting
 a dead man. Now I 
 delude
   my
   self that you are referring to my calling our
 past president a 
 drunkard.
   Now why did you think that I mentioned that for
 I hate Baganda? May be 
 I
   have a thing on Moslems, for he was a Moslem.
 My be I have a thing on
   Moslems who turn Christians for they want to be
 enrolled in the then
   prestigious Buddo, which would not at a time
 take a Moslem, for he did.
 Why
   were you only concerned for I raised the issue
 for he was a Muganda?
   
   And lastly Mwaami Musaazi, let us put some
 sense into this discussion, 
 if
   my
   calling Professor Lule a drunkard who dies of
 Alcohol poison in his
 body,
   is not a true fact, please by all means state
 so. And if you do not 
 know,
   do
   the civilized thing and shut the hell up. For
 it must bother any body 
 who
   sees that you are concerned by a comment done
 against a past president,
 and
   you can only cover it with You hate Baganda 
 Mwaami Musaazi be 
 sensible
   for once, what did Lule die from? Feel us in.
   
   Em
   
The Mulindwas Communication Group
   With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
   avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans

ugnet_: WHAT HAPPENED TO HUMANITY?




Israel Destroys US-Built Water Wells In 
GazaBy 
Justin HugglerThe Independent - UK11-5-3


  
  

  
JERUSALEM -- The US has 
reportedly complained after the Israeli army destroyed wells built for 
civilians in Gaza by an American government aid agency. 
 
Huge areas have been demolished by the Israelis in the 
Gaza Strip in recent weeks, including more than 150 homes. 
 
The wells had just been dug by the United States 
Agency for International Development (USAid). A few months ago the 
agency announced a $20m (£12m) project to rebuild infrastructure 
including roads, electricity supply lines and sewers in the occupied 
territories. 
 
The agency was reporting good progress. But its 
workers were dismayed when they turned up to finish the wells and found 
that their work had been destroyed. A source at the American embassy 
said that when USAid complained, the Israelis told them that they 
demolished the wells because Palestinian militants had been hiding in 
them. 
 
That has been a regular claim from the Israeli 
military to justify demolishing houses in Gaza - but in recent weeks 
whole streets have been knocked down. Israel has also been accused of 
trying to move refugee camps away from the border with Egypt. 
 
Spokesmen at the American embassy were careful not to 
criticise the Israeli army. But according to reports in the Israeli 
press yesterday, they were less diplomatic behind the scenes. The 
newspaper Ma'ariv reported that the US had threatened to stop all 
reconstruction work unless the Israeli army promised not to demolish 
anything built by the Americans. 
 
Paul Patin, a spokesman for the embassy, denied that. 
He said: "We don't have any plans to leave." But the Israeli authorities 
are reportedly dismayed at the incident. Ma'ariv quoted unnamed 
political sources as calling it a "failure". Someone identified as a 
"high-ranking political official" said: "The Palestinian population is 
not Israel's enemy." 
 
Although Gaza is on the coast, the overpopulated strip 
suffers severe shortages of clean water, and many drink salt water. 
Wells are of vital importance. The Israeli army's blunder came after the 
US State Department said that it would ask Congress to approve $2.2bn of 
military aid for Israel in 2005, $60m more than the allocation for 
2004. 
 
The increase is part of an agreement made in the 1990s 
to reduce economic assistance to Israel by $120m a year and 
simultaneously increase military aid by $60m a year. 
 
But the US has since agreed an extra $9bn of loan 
guarantees over three years to bail out the Israeli economy, in serious 
trouble after three years of the intifada. 
 
The costly military response, led by the Prime 
Minister, Ariel Sharon, has severely damaged tourism and investment in 
Israel. 
 
© 2003 Independent Digital (UK) Ltd 
 
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=460551
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Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in 
anarchy" 
Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans 
l'anarchie"

ugnet_: Wealthy Ugandan paid US$5,000 per night in Dubai Hotel

Ezra paid 10m/- per night in Dubai hotel

FOR BIG SHOTS: The seven-star Burj Al Arab Hotel in which Ezra stayed

By Daniel Ssentalo in Dubai MICHAEL Ezra, the wealthy Ugandan sports financier and businessman, spent the weekend of October 26-27, in the prestigious US$5,000-a-day floating seven-star hotel with spectacular views of the famous Persian Gulf in Dubai in the United Arab Emirates (UAE). It cost him US$5,000 (sh10m) per night at the hotel where guests have the option of either being chauffeured in the customised Roll Royce limousines or shuttled in a helicopter from the airport to the top of the hotel. He checked into the presidential suite of The Jumeirah Beach Hotel located in the Jumeirah Beach area, 15km from Dubais city centre of Deira and 25km from the Dubai International Airport. He was ushered into the Burj Arab Hotel, the extension of Jumeirah Beach Hotel that floats on the waters of the Dubai Creek. The Jumeirah Beach Hotel was built on land and is connected to the Burj Al Arab hotel by a purpose built coral reef w
ith a
well-lit two-kilometre offshore highway. The royal ruling family of Dubai owns the only floating hotel in the Middle East. Burj Al Arab Hotel was constructed by the Fisher Steel company of South Africa. The glossy brochures of the prestigious hotel indicate that the presidential suite goes for US$5,000 dollars per night. Ezra, who is reportedly highly respected in Dubai for his investments there, was driven in the Rolls Royce limousines from the airport. The cars were specifically designed for the hotel. Another mode of transport to the hotel is by a helicopter at no extra cost. It was also established that booking has to be done a year in advance. The only seven star hotel in the Middle East has been booked up to the end of 2005. The hotel has won world awards including Business Traveller Magazine UK 2002, Business Traveller Magazine 2002, Best Resort Hotel in the World 2002, World Travel Awards 2001. It won its way into the
prestigious Guinness Book of Records in 2000 as the worlds tallest all-suite hotel.Other guests who have stayed here is the daughter of President Muammar Gaddafi of Libya. An official in Ezras office did not deny that he was in Dubai at that time but said, I cant comment on that. I will pass the message to him. Michael Ezra also hit headlines when he donated sh15m to Tooro Kingdom during a recent fundraising at Nile Hotel. He also offered a customised vehicle for the child King of Tooro, Oyo Nyimba.
Published on: Wednesday, 5th November, 2003

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Re: ugnet_: International image of LRA


Musaazi,how all along have you been under the delusions that the
problems of Northern et Eastern Uganda are problems for the whole
Uganda?.
Musaazi,are you familiar with the statements:"Omulango,kale,kale ko,
Naye, Omucholo,Omucholo Si Muntu"? and where and when they were
utterred?.
Last but not least,I do not need Matek to inform me,of who or what Kony
is,just as I did not need Mu7 or his cohorts like you,to tell me of the 
mayhem that occurred in the Luwero salient.
Lastly,I pray that you live true to your nature and stop indulging in apostasies,for these make you edentate counsellor.In 1986,when Mu7
and his alliance of the willing were butchering,murdering,massacring,
killing and annihilating those Wapingamizzi,you were very noticeably quiet.That I believe is what it should be for it is better to stand for your
principles and live for it,than exchange it for cheap political mileage.
Akuume.
Thank you.
Kipenji.
=emmanuel musaazi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kipenji either you woke up on the wrong side of your bed this morning or you are interpreting my postings your way. To start off i have always maintained that the problem in the north of Uganda is a Ugandan one which needs to be solved by Ugandans. Where i have disagreed with you guys (and still do) is w.r.t to who the pertuator of these atrocities is. I HAVE ALWAYS MAINTAINED THAT KONY IS THE CULPRIT WHOM ALL UGANDANS MUST GET TOGETHER TO STOP. MY POSTINGS CAN BARE THAT OUT. YOU ARE THE ONE WHO IS COMING TO TERMS WITH YOUR LIES. I GUESS YOU ARE REALIZING NOW THAT MATEK HAS BEEN DECIEVING YOU ABOUT THE SOURCE OF THE PROBLEMS IN THE NORTH AND YOU ARE TRYING TO USE ME TO COVER YOUR INITIAL IGNORANCE.I HAVE NEVER USED ANY DEROGATORY WORD IN REFERENCE TO ANY TRIBE IN UGANDA...YOU CALL YOURSELVES WHATEVER YOU CALL YOURSELVES THAT IS YOUR
 BUSSINESS. IF CALLING KONY AND LRA, TERRORIST AND MURDERS IS DEROGATORY TO ACHOLIS OR NORTHERNERS THEN SO BE IT, BECAUSE KONY AND LRA ARE MURDERERS AND TERRORIST, I CAN SAY IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN WITHOUT LOSING ANY SLEEP OVER IT. IF THAT OFFENDS YOU AS A NORTHERNER THEN SO BE IT.THE EVIDENCE IS THERE ON THE GROUND THAT KONY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE KILLING, RAPING, MAIMING AND ABDUCTION OF UGANDAN CITIZENS IN THE NORTH. I HAVE NEVER ON THIS MEDIUM EXPRESSED SUPPORT FOR THE SUFFERINGS OF UGANDANS IN THE NORTH.ON THE CONTRARY YOU ARE THE PEOPLE GUILTY OF MURDER BECAUSE YOU PUBLICLY SUPPORT WHAT KONY AND LRA ARE DOING IN THE NORTH, YOU EVEN PROUDLY ADVERTISE THERE ACHIEVEMENTS IN KILLING UGANDANS. BY THE WAY THE PEOPLE IN NORTHERN UGANDA ARE NOT YOUR PROPERTY MR. MATEK AND MR KIPENJI, I DON'T NEED THE APPROVAL OF A NORHTERNER IN ORDER FOR MY FEELINGS OF SYMPATHY TO BE LEGITIMATE.I STAND BY OUR PRESIDENT AND ALL THE
 EFFORTS HE IS MAKING IN STOPPING KONY AND LRA AND ULTIMATELY THE SUFFERINGS OF OUR FELLOW CITIZENS IN THE NORTH OF UGANDA. YOU GUYS DO NOT REPRESENT THE INTEREST OF NORTHERNERS IN UGANDA, AS USUAL YOU ARE TRYING TO CON US INTO THINKING OTHERWISE.YOU SIT THERE IN CANADA AND AMERICA TALKING RUBBISH WHILE PEOPLE ARE DIEING BECAUSE OF ONE MANS (KONY'S) MADNESS AND THEN YOU CRUELLY COME ON THIS MEDIUM AND SUPPORT HIM. I DARE KIPENJI AND MATEK TO GO TO KITGUM, LIRA AND ITESOT AND SAY TO THE VICTIM OF KONY WHAT YOU SAY ON THIS MEDIUM AND LET'S SEE WHETHER YOU'LL COME OUT ALIVE. STUPID FOOLS.From: Owor Kipenji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: ugnet_: International image of LRADate: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:29:58 + (GMT)Musaazi,I am indeed both amazed and perturbed by your coming toage that the problems of Acholi et Northern
 Uganda is a problem ofall Ugandans!.When did you make this miraculous about turn?.Or youhave slept soundly so much that you are sick of the slumber and youfeel others,especially those biologics from the North and East have atleast temporarily now qualified to meet the standards of your attention?Musaazi,whitewashes are just white washes and in themselves are neverwhite,but just a hue thereof,so stop this reptilian metarmorphosis as ifthe sufferings borne by the people of the North and East at the behest ofyour erstwhile alliance of the willing and both the knowing and the unknowing started yesterday.Even without and inspite of no support from the Musaazis of this world,the heinous crimes that your alliance has committed against thepeople of the East and North has not annihilated them as you planned but instead made them aware of your covert intentions.Time they say is the
 best judge and I believe Time is now very fast catching up on you.My advise to you is to live true to yourself and shade of the veneer of concern that you want people to believe you have for those Badokoolosand Anyanyas.This will be much better than the hypocrisy you are nowembracing.Personally I will deal with people who are true to themselves than hypocrites for these are indeed very cold blooded murderers.Have a

Re: Fwd: ugnet_: Christopher Senteza's Life as a Gay Chiristian -BBC

It is a neologism that is gaining currency especially in the Western
World where religion is just another institution where membership is
by subscription with no proscriptions as long as the wallet is left wide
open.
That is just my opinion.
Wish you many more gay xtian filled revelations.
Amen.
Kipenji.
=J Ssemakula [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Is a 'gay xtian' an oxymoron or is the bible due for revision to make it politically correct?
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From: Joicye nansikombi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Fwd: ugnet_: Christopher Senteza's Life as a Gay Chiristian -BBC 
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:35:53 -0800 (PST) 



Dear Christopher Senteza: 
I must let you that you must be proud of being an African. If you do as I do 
although I am now in European Country home is always the best. I can not 
forgive you of your misleading our African Culture. We have never been Gay. 
We always have our native Dr's who can prescribe you the medicine quick and 
it can take just a meter of weeks you will be with a African for that matter 
our Ugandan Beautiful girls. 
We in Uganda have more big problems, Please, Please, do not try to bring more 
problems. We in Uganda have had more wars and we have lost many many 
men and young boys. We do not want that business of Gay. Who will marry 
our girls when you are bringing such unbelievable nasty thing called Gay!! 
Lesbians where have you seen such things like mipira in Uganda!! Please, 
young man Leave Uganda alone come to Europe if you are and you will deficiently 
get yours here. 
Please, let us reserve Uganda as Uganda We are proud of our country "THE PEAL OF 
AFRICA" That is not our Culture. Your family was supportive because they had no alternative other than to present that they support you. But deep in their hearts it was a big Blow. Please, I beg you kindly leave us alone. It seems you have become very something else. To let you the truth I would not even allow you to talk to any of 
my relatives nor my neighbors nor my village. 




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ugnet_: Rape Legacy of DR Congo Conflict - BBC

Last Updated: Wednesday, 5 November, 2003, 12:47 GMT

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Rape legacy of DR Congo conflict

This 12-year-old is trying to get over her ordeal by going to schoolThe massive scale of rape in eastern Democratic Republic of Congo is being uncovered, aid agencies say.
"We have never come across as many victims of rape in a conflict situation," said a spokeswoman for the World Food Programme (WFP).
Christiane Berthiaume said that thousands of women were going to health centres to receive treatment.
After four years of war, the situation in DR Congo is improving, allowing aid workers further into rebel-held areas.
According to WFP, doctors in the eastern city of Bukavu, near the border with Rwanda, are treating 150 new cases a month and the numbers are growing.
'Tortured'
For each victim who sought treatment, often for severe internal wounds, aid workers estimated that there were 30 more women or young girls who had been raped, Ms Berthiaume said.

"There are women, girls, as young as five and as old as 80, who have been systematically raped several times, tortured and injured by firearms."
With fighting now decreasing in the North and South Kivu provinces, the World Food Programme said it had access to areas which were too dangerous to enter earlier.
The two provinces border Rwanda, Uganda and Burundi, all of which were involved in DR Congo's war.
The situation was said to be mirrored in other eastern towns.
However, UN humanitarian affairs officials reported that fighting had resumed in parts of South Kivu province, displacing thousands of civilians.
A UN mission is monitoring the ceasefire agreement under the peace process set up in April, ending a war that drew in half a dozen African countries at its height and claimed an estimated 2.5 million lives.
Despite the establishment of an interim government in July, armed groups still roam across parts of eastern DR Congo.

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Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero

Inferiority complex to you!...Lisa Toro HA HA HA HA.that's a big 
laughinferiority complex to Kony???...inferiority complex to the likes 
of Matek, Kipenji and Mulindwa???that's even a bigger laugh.

Netters these guys are crazy...i don't think any body on this forum could 
feel inferio to any of the fore mentioned because they are the least common 
denominator that one could be compared with. As i've been saying netters 
just keep on watching critically what these fellows put up and you'll will 
know them for who they are.

For the records i am not against any Acholi, Langi or for that matter 
anybody from the north of Uganda. I have friends from these parts of Uganda. 
What i am against is the idealogy of certain people on this forum, which is 
based on lies. I wouldn't even mind if it was just a matter of differing 
political views, but in this case peoples lives are at stake and for LISA 
TORO TO COME ON THIS MEDIUM AND SAY wake up Uganda is bigger than one man 
BASICALLY IMPLYING THAT THE PEOPLE IN THE NORTH CAN DIE AS LONG AS HER AND 
HER ILK'S POLITICAL AGENDAS ARE REALIZED, BASICALLY SHOWS YOU THE WICKEDNESS 
OF THESE PEOPLE. THEY DON'T WANT THE TRUTH TO BE KNOWN BECAUSE THEY ARE 
BENEFITTING FROM THE CAOS AND CARNAGE IN THE NORTH. IF TOMORROW THE WAR IN 
THE NORTH ENDED, THESE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE NO MESSAGE, THEY BASICALLY THRIVE 
ON CAOS AND CONFUSION. IT IS NOT IN THEIR FAVOUR THAT PEACE, TRANQUILITY AND 
PROSPERITY EXISTS IN UGANDA BECAUSE THEN THEY WOULD BE RENDERED POLITICALLY 
IMPOTENT.

NETTERS WISEN UP, UGANDA HAS BEEN THROUGH A LOT, OUR PEOPLE HAVE SUFFERED 
ENOUGH. WE NEED TO BRING BACK PRINCIPLE INTO POLITICS IF NOT FOR OUR SAKE, 
AT LEAST FOR THE SAKE OF OUR CHILDREN AND FUTURE GENERATIONS TO COME. THIS 
IS NOT ABOUT SOUTH, NORTH, EAST OR WEST AS MATEK, MULINDWA AND OTHERS WOULD 
LIKE YOU TO BELIEVE THIS IS ABOUT PEOPLES LIVES, AND PRINCIPLE.


From: Lisa Toro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:46:35 -
emmanuel musaazi,

You display serious inferiority complex! wake up Uganda is bigger than one
man. Take care you might end up in a mental hospital.
Toro

- Original Message -
From: emmanuel musaazi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 2:16 AM
Subject: Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero
 I can see Mulindwa that you have realized your mistake, guilty conscence
is
 eating at you. Mulindwa you don't need to feel guilty about what you 
said
 after all it is a belief you are intitled to. On the issue of me 
saying
 you hate Baganda...well if what i responded to is not anti-Buganda
rhetoric
 thenbut well i guess it is your belief that you were complementing
 Baganda. Anyway my belief is that what you put up showed a hatred for
 Baganda, that is my belief. You have your belief i have mine end of
 story.

 Mulindwa you left something out howeverwhat about OBOTE'S 
EDUCATIONAL
 BACKGROUND. Since you are so kin to expose late President Yusuf Lule's
 ignorance (remember you said he was not a professor and bla bla bal..),
can
 you tell us about Obote's educational backgroundafterall you don't
miss
 a chance to call him Dris it true for example that he was a high
 school drop out, who never had a university education? What about his
 drinking?you claim to be neutral so here is your chance to prove it.


 From: Edward Mulindwa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero
 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:43:00 -0500
 
 Mwaami Musaazi
 
 You see I respond to you when ever you make sense, but this posting I 
see
 nothing to respond to. I am sorry.
 Except you have made a remark that I feel I must clear out, and I quote
 I'm
 asking since you had the indignity of insulting a dead man. Now I 
delude
 my
 self that you are referring to my calling our past president a 
drunkard.
 Now why did you think that I mentioned that for I hate Baganda? May be 
I
 have a thing on Moslems, for he was a Moslem. My be I have a thing on
 Moslems who turn Christians for they want to be enrolled in the then
 prestigious Buddo, which would not at a time take a Moslem, for he did.
Why
 were you only concerned for I raised the issue for he was a Muganda?
 
 And lastly Mwaami Musaazi, let us put some sense into this discussion, 
if
 my
 calling Professor Lule a drunkard who dies of Alcohol poison in his
body,
 is not a true fact, please by all means state so. And if you do not 
know,
 do
 the civilized thing and shut the hell up. For it must bother any body 
who
 sees that you are concerned by a comment done against a past president,
and
 you can only cover it with You hate Baganda  Mwaami Musaazi be 
sensible
 for once, what did Lule die from? Feel us in.
 
 Em
 
  The Mulindwas

Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero

Mwaami Musaazi

No for the record your hate to the Northerners is publicly known, and I have
big problem understanding why you hate the Northerners this much. Have you
ever been in the North? Or you are basing your hate to the Northerners just
on those you have mate in Kampala? Why do you hate them?
Please tell us.

Em

The Mulindwas Communication Group
With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie


- Original Message -
From: emmanuel musaazi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero


 Inferiority complex to you!...Lisa Toro HA HA HA HA.that's a big
 laughinferiority complex to Kony???...inferiority complex to the likes
 of Matek, Kipenji and Mulindwa???that's even a bigger laugh.

 Netters these guys are crazy...i don't think any body on this forum could
 feel inferio to any of the fore mentioned because they are the least
common
 denominator that one could be compared with. As i've been saying netters
 just keep on watching critically what these fellows put up and you'll will
 know them for who they are.

 For the records i am not against any Acholi, Langi or for that matter
 anybody from the north of Uganda. I have friends from these parts of
Uganda.
 What i am against is the idealogy of certain people on this forum, which
is
 based on lies. I wouldn't even mind if it was just a matter of differing
 political views, but in this case peoples lives are at stake and for LISA
 TORO TO COME ON THIS MEDIUM AND SAY wake up Uganda is bigger than one
man
 BASICALLY IMPLYING THAT THE PEOPLE IN THE NORTH CAN DIE AS LONG AS HER AND
 HER ILK'S POLITICAL AGENDAS ARE REALIZED, BASICALLY SHOWS YOU THE
WICKEDNESS
 OF THESE PEOPLE. THEY DON'T WANT THE TRUTH TO BE KNOWN BECAUSE THEY ARE
 BENEFITTING FROM THE CAOS AND CARNAGE IN THE NORTH. IF TOMORROW THE WAR IN
 THE NORTH ENDED, THESE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE NO MESSAGE, THEY BASICALLY THRIVE
 ON CAOS AND CONFUSION. IT IS NOT IN THEIR FAVOUR THAT PEACE, TRANQUILITY
AND
 PROSPERITY EXISTS IN UGANDA BECAUSE THEN THEY WOULD BE RENDERED
POLITICALLY
 IMPOTENT.

 NETTERS WISEN UP, UGANDA HAS BEEN THROUGH A LOT, OUR PEOPLE HAVE SUFFERED
 ENOUGH. WE NEED TO BRING BACK PRINCIPLE INTO POLITICS IF NOT FOR OUR SAKE,
 AT LEAST FOR THE SAKE OF OUR CHILDREN AND FUTURE GENERATIONS TO COME. THIS
 IS NOT ABOUT SOUTH, NORTH, EAST OR WEST AS MATEK, MULINDWA AND OTHERS
WOULD
 LIKE YOU TO BELIEVE THIS IS ABOUT PEOPLES LIVES, AND PRINCIPLE.


 From: Lisa Toro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero
 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 07:46:35 -
 
 emmanuel musaazi,
 
 You display serious inferiority complex! wake up Uganda is bigger than
one
 man. Take care you might end up in a mental hospital.
 
 
 Toro
 
 - Original Message -
 From: emmanuel musaazi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 2:16 AM
 Subject: Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero
 
 
   I can see Mulindwa that you have realized your mistake, guilty
conscence
 is
   eating at you. Mulindwa you don't need to feel guilty about what you
 said
   after all it is a belief you are intitled to. On the issue of me
 saying
   you hate Baganda...well if what i responded to is not anti-Buganda
 rhetoric
   thenbut well i guess it is your belief that you were
complementing
   Baganda. Anyway my belief is that what you put up showed a hatred
for
   Baganda, that is my belief. You have your belief i have mine end
of
   story.
  
   Mulindwa you left something out howeverwhat about OBOTE'S
 EDUCATIONAL
   BACKGROUND. Since you are so kin to expose late President Yusuf Lule's
   ignorance (remember you said he was not a professor and bla bla
bal..),
 can
   you tell us about Obote's educational backgroundafterall you don't
 miss
   a chance to call him Dris it true for example that he was a high
   school drop out, who never had a university education? What about his
   drinking?you claim to be neutral so here is your chance to prove
it.
  
  
   From: Edward Mulindwa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero
   Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:43:00 -0500
   
   Mwaami Musaazi
   
   You see I respond to you when ever you make sense, but this posting I
 see
   nothing to respond to. I am sorry.
   Except you have made a remark that I feel I must clear out, and I
quote
   I'm
   asking since you had the indignity of insulting a dead man. Now I
 delude
   my
   self that you are referring to my calling our past president a
 drunkard.
   Now why did you think that I mentioned that for I hate Baganda? May
be
 I
   have a thing on

Re: ugnet_: Njuba-Opposition Interim Boss to the Talks/Jokes on political pluralism

Kasangwawo

Is the DP leader these days in Lusaka?

Em

The Mulindwas Communication Group
With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie


- Original Message -
From: jonah kasangwawo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: ugnet_: Njuba-Opposition Interim Boss to the Talks/Jokes on
political pluralism


 Mulindwa says:

 Does this mean that Uganda stopped completely to produce any new young
 blood with brilliant ideas which can make Uganda move even a single step
 forward? Are we so desperate that Njuba is the best that can be
presented?

 You are right, we are desperate. We are so desperate that we still have a
 geriatric heading a Ugandan political party from Lusaka !

 From: Edward Mulindwa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED],
 Anne Mugisha [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: ugnet_: Njuba-Opposition Interim Boss to the Talks/Jokes on
 political pluralism
 Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 19:03:03 -0500
 
 This shows a critical mind how Uganda's political arena has narrowed
down.
 Since when did you hear the name Njuba? Is he really the best that AGAIN
is
 out there to bring  issues that must convince me as Edward to take these
 issues serious? Does this mean that Uganda stopped completely to produce
 any new young blood with brilliant ideas which can make Uganda move even
a
 single step forward? Are we so desperate that Njuba is the best that can
be
 presented?
 
 Yes because we are so stupid to buy such crap as Konny attacked in Teso,
he
 was attacked by UPDF which killed his officers, and Konny managed to
escape
 with the bodies. So Konny a man who is on foot and when UPDF is in
pursuit,
 managed to ran with the bodies of dead men all the way from Teso to
 Southern Sudan. And in the process, UPDF failed to find him.
 Ugandans with cheap minds like that deserves nothing better than Njuba.
You
 get the leaders you so eloquently deserve, the problem is that even our
 selves who do not want them, become subjects of the same. The days are
 strange indeed.
 
 Em
 
  The Mulindwas Communication Group
 With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy
  Groupe de communication Mulindwas
 avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie
- Original Message -
From: Owor Kipenji
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 5:55 PM
Subject: ugnet_: Njuba-Opposition Interim Boss to the Talks/Jokes on
 political pluralism
 
 
 
  Opposition team picks Njuba as interim boss
  By Mwanguhya Charles Mpagi
  Nov 3, 2003
 
KAMPALA - The opposition has named Mr Sam Njuba as its
 contact person for the proposed talks with government on political
 pluralism.
 
Njuba is the vice chairman of the opposition Reform
Agenda.
 
Seven opposition groups on October 27 wrote a joint letter
 to the National Political Commissar, Dr Crispus Kiyonga, on the way
forward
 for the planned talks on the transition to multi-party democracy.
 
Our contact person, for the time being shall be Mr Sam
 Njuba of the Reform Agenda [Tel. 077 409548] Reform Agenda Offices. Plot
91
 Bukoto Street Kamwokya, Kampala, the opposition wrote to Kiyonga.
 
Kiyonga is the chairman of the 25-member government team
 appointed by President Yoweri Museveni on October 17 to lead talks with
 opposition groups on the roadmap to political pluralism.
 
The letter titled Our Common Response to the Proposed
 National Dialogue was signed by the Conservative Party (CP), Democratic
 Party (DP), Justice Forum (Jeema), National Democrats Forum (NDF), Reform
 Agenda (RA), The Free Movement (TFM) and Uganda Peoples Congress (UPC).
 
The opposition said it will take a collective and joint
 stand in the talks.
The opposition said it is opposed to bilateral talks or
 consultations as individual groups.
 
The political parties [and] organisations as indicated
here
 below would like to state that they welcome, in principle, your proposed
 National Dialogue to deal with issues of transition to pluralistic
 democracy in the country. As you are aware we have indeed been demanding
 for such a dialogue and a national conference in particular for a long
 time, the opposition wrote.
 
They also want a clear agenda for the talks.
 
Mr Nsubuga Nsambu (Makindye West) signed on behalf of CP
and
 Mr Damiano Lubega signed for DP.
 
Mr Kibirige Mayanja signed for Jeema, Mr Njuba for RA, Mr
 Frederick Juuko for TFM while Dr James Rwanyarare

Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero

So Mulindwa, why the change of name? and why the tribe switch? are you 
ashamed of your origins? Netters as you can see Mulindwa is not only a 
lier, he is a living lie. Mulindwa you don't need to be a Muganda to be a 
credible UPC advocate or probably the UPC wants to use you and a fake name 
to lure Baganda. Then you come on to this forum to decieve us that you are 
neutra. If you are on welfare in Canada, i wonder what Matek is doing 
(probably living on UPC handouts).

DEAR NETTERS KEEP ON READING AND LEARNING. Netters wouldn't you want to know 
Mulindwa's educational qualifications? we might be dealing with another 
high school drop out here, if his postings are anything to go by. Anyway 
enjoy your kyeyo in Canada Mulindwa.


From: Edward Mulindwa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:28:34 -0500
Mwaami Musaazi

Mwaami Musaazi be sensible for once, what did Lule die from? Feel us in.

Em

The Mulindwas Communication Group
With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie
- Original Message -
From: emmanuel musaazi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero
 I can see Mulindwa that you have realized your mistake, guilty conscence
is
 eating at you. Mulindwa you don't need to feel guilty about what you 
said
 after all it is a belief you are intitled to. On the issue of me 
saying
 you hate Baganda...well if what i responded to is not anti-Buganda
rhetoric
 thenbut well i guess it is your belief that you were complementing
 Baganda. Anyway my belief is that what you put up showed a hatred for
 Baganda, that is my belief. You have your belief i have mine end of
 story.

 Mulindwa you left something out howeverwhat about OBOTE'S 
EDUCATIONAL
 BACKGROUND. Since you are so kin to expose late President Yusuf Lule's
 ignorance (remember you said he was not a professor and bla bla bal..),
can
 you tell us about Obote's educational backgroundafterall you don't
miss
 a chance to call him Dris it true for example that he was a high
 school drop out, who never had a university education? What about his
 drinking?you claim to be neutral so here is your chance to prove it.


 From: Edward Mulindwa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero
 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:43:00 -0500
 
 Mwaami Musaazi
 
 You see I respond to you when ever you make sense, but this posting I 
see
 nothing to respond to. I am sorry.
 Except you have made a remark that I feel I must clear out, and I quote
 I'm
 asking since you had the indignity of insulting a dead man. Now I 
delude
 my
 self that you are referring to my calling our past president a 
drunkard.
 Now why did you think that I mentioned that for I hate Baganda? May be 
I
 have a thing on Moslems, for he was a Moslem. My be I have a thing on
 Moslems who turn Christians for they want to be enrolled in the then
 prestigious Buddo, which would not at a time take a Moslem, for he did.
Why
 were you only concerned for I raised the issue for he was a Muganda?
 
 And lastly Mwaami Musaazi, let us put some sense into this discussion, 
if
 my
 calling Professor Lule a drunkard who dies of Alcohol poison in his
body,
 is not a true fact, please by all means state so. And if you do not 
know,
 do
 the civilized thing and shut the hell up. For it must bother any body 
who
 sees that you are concerned by a comment done against a past president,
and
 you can only cover it with You hate Baganda  Mwaami Musaazi be 
sensible
 for once, what did Lule die from? Feel us in.
 
 Em
 
  The Mulindwas Communication Group
 With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy
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 - Original Message -
 From: emmanuel musaazi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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   My gosh Mulindwa, your hatred for Buganda is astonishing...anyway,
   personally i'm ok with that, you are entiltled as you have said to
your
   beliefs however you should also know that what you said cuts both
 ways.
 In
   other wards there is no need for an inquiry into Luwero 'cos it is a
   belief by... i don't know which tribe now...you know these tribal
 jargons
   more than i, besides if there was an inquiry, i don't think the UPC
will
   prevail but then that is i guess a belief. Secondly the premise to
my
   arguments is one of perception. If you noticed all the postings i 
put
up
 are
   opinions of Ugandans

Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero

Mr. Dada, every Ugandan should be free to live wherever they want in Uganda. 
I as a Muganda would not be happy if only Baganda lived in Buganda. I like 
it when you for example you go to Makerere and see people from all parts of 
Uganda. I have friends from the north of Uganda and they are among my most 
trusted companions (and some of them are richer than me). My arguments have 
nothing to do with tribe and ethnicity as Mulindwa, Matek and others on 
this forum would want you to believe, my argument is about principle. Mr. 
Dada, people in the north are dying in horendous ways (see my postings) at 
the hands of a mad man (Kony). For the sake of the innocent people losing 
their lives in the north and as Ugandans, it is only right to put politics 
aside and concentrate on stoping Kony once and for all. That is all i'm 
saying. It is infact this lack of principle in politics (as exhibited by the 
likes of Matek and Mulindwa) that Uganda has gotten to where it is. This is 
why i have been saying that the UPC, if it is to remain a viable political 
party in Uganda needs a change of outlook and that should start from the 
top.

The politics of knocking Ugandans heads together or creating hatred, caos 
and mayhem so as to achieve political objectives must be stopped. You see 
Mr. Dada, on this forum, we are fighting with words, but back home as you 
can see in the north, lives are lost.

This is why i have been saying that unless there is a clear change in the 
direction of UPC politics, puting the UPC back into power will be dejavu for 
Uganda. as i have been saying you only have to read the postings of 
Mulindwa, Matek and there like, to appreciate what i am saying and on the 
ground in Uganda some wise people in UPC are already breaking ranks and 
getting out because they see that the  leadership in the party is steering 
the party the wrong way. Matek, Mulindwa and some on this forum  belong to 
the old guard, they are basically stuck in the 60's and 70's, along with 
their leader. I only pray that wiser heads will prevail in the party. 
Cheers.


From: Adam Dada [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Musaazi - The hatred that Mulindwa (that is his nickname on account of 
the long time he and his parents spent in Bombo - his real name probably 
starts with O, or A) has never ceased to amaze me. I, however, fail to 
understand why he even still uses that nickname, rather than reverting back 
to his luo name. Some of us appreciate the hospitality offered to us by 
Buganda and I hate to see extremists the likes of Mulindwa malign Buganda 
and Baganda whenever an opportunity arises. Just goes to show the mind of 
the man and his intent. However much you hate someone, you sometimes 
reserve a kind word rightly due to them - not for Mulindwa. With that 
attitude, he is lucky to be safely tucked away in Canada as a fugitive from 
justice in Buganda for his reported participation in UPC atrocities. Uganda 
simply has no kinds words these days for extremists the likes of Mulindwa 
and so, just like his hero Obote, the man is most likely to spend all his 
days in Canada. I believe he is stung by that prospect thats why he is a 
bitter old man. My advice to you Musaazi is: dont waste your precious time 
with the punk - he is an unemployable fella, on social benefits and all he 
does is sit around on the computer and peddle his Buganda hatred with 
nothing else to do. He is a just social misfit as anyone in Toronto who 
knows him will tell intimate. You Musaazi, being a learned guy, are too 
cheap for such outright unmitigated nosense.
Dada

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emmanuel musaazi,

You display serious inferiority complex! wake up Uganda is bigger than one
man. Take care you might end up in a mental hospital.
Toro

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 I can see Mulindwa that you have realized your mistake, guilty 
conscence
is
 eating at you. Mulindwa you don't need to feel guilty about what you 
said
 after all it is a belief you are intitled to. On the issue of me 
saying
 you hate Baganda...well if what i responded to is not anti-Buganda
rhetoric
 thenbut well i guess it is your belief that you were 
complementing
 Baganda. Anyway my belief is that what you put up showed a hatred for
 Baganda, that is my belief. You have your belief i have mine end of
 story.

 Mulindwa you left something out howeverwhat about OBOTE'S 
EDUCATIONAL
 BACKGROUND. Since you are so kin to expose late President Yusuf Lule's
 ignorance (remember you said he was not a professor and bla bla

Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero

2003-11-05 Thread jonah kasangwawo

Mulindwa,

Time out ! Stop your lies !

You again seem to think that if you keep on repeating your lies they'll 
become the truth. Your belief that since your hero is alcoholic then all the 
other former presidents must have been alcoholics is just bogus. First you 
make all sorts of claims and then you ask to be filled in, implying that you 
actually don't know what you are talking about. Well, I'll fill you in and 
quench your ignorance.

Professor Lule (RIP) was a teetotaler. The man never drank alcohol in his 
whole life. He suffered for a long time from leukaemia, to which he finally 
succumbed. For you to go around peddling such barefaced lies about him is 
despicable. And you call that putting sense into the discussion ! His family 
should sue you for defamation.

Kasangwawo

From: Edward Mulindwa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Mwaami Musaazi

You see I respond to you when ever you make sense, but this posting I see
nothing to respond to. I am sorry.
Except you have made a remark that I feel I must clear out, and I quote 
I'm
asking since you had the indignity of insulting a dead man. Now I delude 
my
self that you are referring to my calling our past president a drunkard.
Now why did you think that I mentioned that for I hate Baganda? May be I
have a thing on Moslems, for he was a Moslem. My be I have a thing on
Moslems who turn Christians for they want to be enrolled in the then
prestigious Buddo, which would not at a time take a Moslem, for he did. Why
were you only concerned for I raised the issue for he was a Muganda?

And lastly Mwaami Musaazi, let us put some sense into this discussion, if 
my
calling Professor Lule a drunkard who dies of Alcohol poison in his body,
is not a true fact, please by all means state so. And if you do not know, 
do
the civilized thing and shut the hell up. For it must bother any body who
sees that you are concerned by a comment done against a past president, and
you can only cover it with You hate Baganda  Mwaami Musaazi be sensible
for once, what did Lule die from? Feel us in.

Em

The Mulindwas Communication Group
With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie
- Original Message -
From: emmanuel musaazi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero
 My gosh Mulindwa, your hatred for Buganda is astonishing...anyway,
 personally i'm ok with that, you are entiltled as you have said to your
 beliefs however you should also know that what you said cuts both 
ways.
In
 other wards there is no need for an inquiry into Luwero 'cos it is a
 belief by... i don't know which tribe now...you know these tribal
jargons
 more than i, besides if there was an inquiry, i don't think the UPC will
 prevail but then that is i guess a belief. Secondly the premise to my
 arguments is one of perception. If you noticed all the postings i put up
are
 opinions of Ugandans and the international community, I can't say UPC
should
 be taken to court because they are stupid enough to have a dictator with
 alleged criminal links as head, that is UPC's problem. Already you can 
see
 that the party is begining to crumble, as the rank and file begin to 
feel
 the impact of Obote's baggage not only to the party's image but to there
own
 political futures.

 This is my argument, i believe that the UPC can redeem itself, but it 
has
to
 be ready to break away from it's past evils, Mulindwa your argument (and
 Matek's) is akin to an Ostrich burying it's head in a hole while leaving
the
 rest of it's body exposed and feeling that it is hidden (nobody can see
it).
 Trust me it doesn't work that way, as you will soon find out. Obote and
you
 his supporters will have to defend that stinky record, not in Canada or
 America but in Uganda and ultimately in Buganda and i can hadly wait to
see
 Mulindwa's Buganda 101 political theory work for him. Finaly...ALL
 POLITICS IS LOCAL that is international politics 000.One last thing
just
 out of curiosity is Obote not an alcholic himself and can you please,
 Mulindwa give us Obote's EDUCATIONAL QUALIFICATIONS, FROM FIRST DEGREE 
UP
 (IF HE HAS A DEGREE). I'm asking since you had the indignity of 
insulting
a
 dead man.


 From: Edward Mulindwa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Matek
 
 I think I need to come in here for you are wrong.
 
 We do not need to take UPC to court, the fact is that UPC has a lot of
 skeletons, that is enough. And we must accept it for it is a belief. 
How
 dare you ask NRM to take UPC to court? Who told

Re: ugnet_: Wealthy Ugandan paid US$5,000 per night in Dubai Hotel

This is what every person should aspire for,to make sure they get
the value of their monies while they are still alive.
Many may find this luxurious,but so long as the man foots his bills
from his own disposable income,we should all learn a page from him
to earn even more than his does,rather than believing like most professional politicians in Africa,who want to parasite on other peoples'
sweat under the guise of leadership.
We really need to get out of the cocoon of the poverty mentality that
most churches of yore want us to follow inorder to enter the kingdom
of heaven,for this type of theology is a defeatist and counter innovative
in nature.
May Ezra continue to reap from the fruits of his industry.
Thank you.
Kipenji.
=Omar Kezimbira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Ezra paid 10m/- per night in Dubai hotel

FOR BIG SHOTS: The seven-star Burj Al Arab Hotel in which Ezra stayed

By Daniel Ssentalo in Dubai MICHAEL Ezra, the wealthy Ugandan sports financier and businessman, spent the weekend of October 26-27, in the prestigious US$5,000-a-day floating seven-star hotel with spectacular views of the famous Persian Gulf in Dubai in the United Arab Emirates (UAE). It cost him US$5,000 (sh10m) per night at the hotel where guests have the option of either being chauffeured in the customised Roll Royce limousines or shuttled in a helicopter from the airport to the top of the hotel. He checked into the presidential suite of The Jumeirah Beach Hotel located in the Jumeirah Beach area, 15km from Dubais city centre of Deira and 25km from the Dubai International Airport. He was ushered into the Burj Arab Hotel, the extension of Jumeirah Beach Hotel that floats on the waters of the Dubai Creek. The Jumeirah Beach Hotel was built on land and is connected to the Burj Al Arab hotel by a purpose built coral reef w ith a
well-lit two-kilometre offshore highway. The royal ruling family of Dubai owns the only floating hotel in the Middle East. Burj Al Arab Hotel was constructed by the Fisher Steel company of South Africa. The glossy brochures of the prestigious hotel indicate that the presidential suite goes for US$5,000 dollars per night. Ezra, who is reportedly highly respected in Dubai for his investments there, was driven in the Rolls Royce limousines from the airport. The cars were specifically designed for the hotel. Another mode of transport to the hotel is by a helicopter at no extra cost. It was also established that booking has to be done a year in advance. The only seven star hotel in the Middle East has been booked up to the end of 2005. The hotel has won world awards including Business Traveller Magazine UK 2002, Business Traveller Magazine 2002, Best Resort Hotel in the World 2002, World Travel Awards 2001. It won its way into the
prestigious Guinness Book of Records in 2000 as the worlds tallest all-suite hotel.Other guests who have stayed here is the daughter of President Muammar Gaddafi of Libya. An official in Ezras office did not deny that he was in Dubai at that time but said, I cant comment on that. I will pass the message to him. Michael Ezra also hit headlines when he donated sh15m to Tooro Kingdom during a recent fundraising at Nile Hotel. He also offered a customised vehicle for the child King of Tooro, Oyo Nyimba.
Published on: Wednesday, 5th November, 2003

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ugnet_: Re: [FedsNet] Matters Arising: The Generalismos Land Grab

2003-11-05 Thread J Ssemakula

A divorce should negotiated, preceeded of course with attempts at reconciliation. A messy divorce as happend in Eriterea should be avoided by all means, in favor of the amicable Slovakian model. If it is the will of the majority in Acoli to their separate ways, then we should let them go in peace, for none of us will benefit from acrimony.
However, the average Acoli has the to right to ask: what has the government of Uganda done for me or my homeland in the last 20 years?
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When marriage fails, the only logical step is divorce. There is also a life after divorce. Either you re-marry the same mate, or look for a new one. In the case of northern Uganda, I think looking for a new bride and groom will create a better future.
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Mwami Oryema: 
Thank you for these insights. However I take issue with the last statement 
that you have made that "Come 2006 we people in the North will take care of 
our own ." Are you implying that the North will go a separate way 
without any negotiation and consent from the rest of the country? Are we 
talking about a "Biafra" or is it going to be an "Eritrea"? Please 
enlighten the forum on what the North thinks regarding the future of our 
motherland. 

Moses Lukwago 

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Mr. Ssemakula,
I share your views on the population and land issues. It would appear to me that Uganda had efficient policy on a number of domestic issues up until 1971. From thereon till today a period of 30 years nothing has worked. The once Uganda's primary care system, for example, which emphasized prevention and birth-control has gone down the drains. I do recall that healthcare centres in Uganda were the focus for educational work, midwives organized mother-child health services. A team included health inspectors, assistants, health visitors who conducted home visits talking about birth-control. They were also responsible for the inspection of such public places as markets, abattoirs and eating houses.
The people in power today have no time to do long term planning, because the method they used to come to power does not give them enough confidence that this will last for long. All they do, is rob enough so that when their time comes to pack up and leave for exile, they can afford luxery life-style in Paris, NY or Pretoria. They remain combatants from the day they arrive in office to the day they depart.
You do not need to go far to see this. Read Museveni's latest diatribe in the monitor about his so-called "Not hanging on to power". He sounds very much like he is still in the Luweero triange carelessly referring to Lenin, Marx, Adam Smith and how Amin and Obote prevented Uganda from becoming a Singapore, One wonders why the Angel of Economic miracles still send his daughter in law to give birth in Germany. Germans should be becoming to Uganda to give birth because we have a man with a vision for Uganda.
So Mwami Sesemakula, whether the term "Gakyali Mabaga" only refers to King's College Budo, or the whole of Uganda, we are in for a long haul. The land issue is only a

ugnet_: Museveni Launches Ugandan film in US

Museveni launches Ugandan film in USBy Henry H. Ssali Nov 6, 2003 - Monitor

KAMPALA President Yoweri Museveni launches a documentary film about Uganda today. The launching is in the United States where Mr Museveni is on a weeks working visit.
Museveni left for the United States on Sunday.
The Presidential Assistant on the Press, Mr Onapito Ekomoloit, told The Monitor by phone yesterday that the documentary, which was filmed in Uganda early this year with Museveni as a guide to the camera crew, is meant to exhibit the countrys tourism potential.
Titled Uganda: The Presidential Tour, the documentary was shot by the US Discovery Channel in conjunction with the Africa Society of the National Summit on Africa.
The film is expected to boost the number of American tourists coming to Uganda.
It is estimated that 74 million Americans will watch the film. A statement from the Africa Society said the film provides the audience with pictures of a revitalised country, rich in cultural heritage, populated by an amazing assortment of wildlife, globally acclaimed flora and an abundance of natural environmental wonders.
The film shows how Uganda has risen Phoenix-like, from the wreckage of the past regimes emerging once again as what Winston Churchill deemed, the Pearl of Africa, the statement read. Much of the credit for this nations new optimism and prosperity is attributed to President Museveni and his vision.
The camera begins with a focus on Kampala City and zooms in on Queen Elizabeth and Kibaale national parks, then on to the River Nile and Bwindi Impenetrable Forest.
It also features the Omukama of Toro Oyo Nyimba Rukidi IV, who, at 12, is the youngest monarch in the world.
Mr Leonard H. Robinson, the president of the Africa Society, is quoted in the release urging the world to watch the positive image of Africa because it has some of the worlds most breathtaking sites and diverse cultures.
The film will air globally on Discoverys international services in 2004.

ugnet_: 3rd term debate kicks off friday

3rd term debate kicks off FridayBy Ssemujju Ibrahim NgandaNov 6, 2003 - Monitor

KAMPALA Several military officers and leading Movement figures will debate Ugandas political transition tomorrow.
Former Army Commander Maj. Gen. Mugisha Muntu will chair a session, at which army officers from Tanzania and Kenya will present papers.
The debate is code-named the National Dialogue Workshop.
It is running under the theme, Safe-Guarding Ugandas Democratisation Process.
It is organised by the Parliamentary Advocacy Forum (Pafo), a lobby group opposed to the removal from the Constitution of the two five-year term limit on the presidency.
The removal of the term limits, popularly referred to as third term, is seen widely as ploy aimed at keeping President Yoweri Museveni at the helm for as long as he is willing to stay up there.
The debate will kick off at 8 a.m. at Hotel Africana.
The workshop co-ordinators, Mr Guma Gumisiriza, the MP for Ibanda North and Ms Salaam Musumba of Bugabula South, told The Monitor at Parliament yesterday that former Kenyan Army Commander Lt. Gen. (Rtd) Adan Abdullahi has confirmed his participation.
Gen. Abdullahi is also a member of the East African Legislative Assembly.
His co-presenters on the Army in Political Transition in Africa: The Uganda Case are Ugandas Chief of Military Intelligence Col. Noble Mayombo and Maj. Gen. (Rtd) Herman Lupogo of Tanzania.
Former First Deputy Prime Minister Eriya Kategaya and Masaka Municipality MP John Kawanga will speak on Political Transition in Uganda: The Stakes for Regional Integration in East Africa.
Ms Musumba said Kategeyas co-presenter, Dr Chrispus Kiyonga, the national political commissar, has shied away.
Other speakers are Dr Oloka-Onyango of Makerere University and Mr Peter Walubiri, a Kampala lawyer.
Former Local Government minister Jaberi Bidandi Ssali is yet to confirm his participation.
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ugnet_: Strong presidency will move Uganda forward- Prof. Semakula

Strong presidency will move country forwardBy Prof. Semakula KiwanukaNov 6, 2003 - Monitor

The recent cabinet proposals to the Constitutional Review Commission (CRC) to amend the constitution to allow the president to dissolve Parliament under certain circumstances provoked a storm.
It is important to first understand that most of the proposals forwarded by cabinet to the CRC were actually recommended by the Movement National Executive Committee and the National Conference which met in March and April this year.
The second point to note is that ministers, who comprise the Executive arm of government, have routinely encountered difficulties, contradictions and inadequacies, etc in implementing the constitutional provisions of the current constitution.
Whether one agrees with the proposed amendments or not, the cabinet proposals are important. They were from political practitioners who on a routine basis were confronted with the contradictions of operating a hybrid constitution.
The 1995 constitution comprises American style as well as British style approaches to constitutional governance.
What was interesting was that up to the time the cabinet submitted its own proposals, there had been limited excitement by the public in the work of the commission.
I personally was for a short time a member of the CRC. During that early period few serious matters were being addressed apart from federalism, the land question etc. Why was this?
My brief experience suggested that most of the people, who presented proposals had either not read the constitution or were not serious.
The reactions to the recommendation for a dissolution of Parliament was typical of the deliberate distortions that come from the opposition. It was alleged that this was the same as a concentration of Presidential power. No one describes the U.K. or Australia or the French who have dissolution clauses as dictatorial and tyrannical.
I have argued that the reactions to the dissolution recommendation are based on ignorance because all the so-called mature democracies of the West do have dissolution clauses.
These include Canada, Australia, New Zealand, France etc. The single important exception is the U.S.A. In addition to the so-called mature democracies of the West, many African countries have dissolution clauses. Here are a few examples: Republic of Congo, Cameroon, Zambia, Kenya and Zimbabwe.
In all the constitutions of the countries quoted above, the circumstances that force a dissolution are stated. For example the U.K. states as follows:-
Parliament is dissolved at the end of a five year period (Parliament Acts, 1991 and 1949). If however, a government is defeated on a major issue in the House of Commons during the five-year period the Prime Minster must, by convention, resign. Parliament is thereupon dissolved and a general election is held.
A Prime Minster may at any such time during the five-year life of a Parliament request a dissolution. Normally where a government has a workable majority in the House of Commons, a Prime minster will not wish to dissolve Parliament. But, where this is not so and government has only a small majority, a Prime Minister may feel that an appeal should be made to the electorate to enable strong and effective government to be carried on.
Article 120 of the Mozambican Constitution of 1990, reads:
The President shall have powers to dissolve on a one time basis, the Assembly of the Republic if the Assembly does not approve the programme of the government.
The rationale here is that the President is elected with a national mandate after presenting a programme of action. Should Parliament make it impossible to implement key elements within that programme, the President has the right to refer the matter back to the people.
The American model, which has no such provision, promotes an unsatisfactory political culture of gridlock between the President and Congress. It becomes a question of who blinks first. What should be noted is that dissolution, or going back to the people does not necessarily serve the interests of the Executive.
The electorate can defeat government as it happened in France and Canada in 1999 and 1997 respectively. For this reason dissolution serves all parties because they have to seek a fresh mandate.
Under a strong leadership, campaign promises are much more likely to be fulfilled. A powerful and strategically positioned presidency becomes an instrument of socioe-conomic change.
When the presidency is progressively weakened, it develops into a mere institution, which is incapable of creative leadership. There are numerous examples in history to show that governments under strong and visionary leadership have brought about profound changes in the political, economic and social spheres of their countries.
The Movement government since 1986 has transformed the Uganda landscape in governance, press freedom, the rule of law, the empowerment of women and other vulnerable groups, the

Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero

Mwaami Kasangwawo

You must be ashamed of your self. For by the comments you guys make in these
forums are the same we judge you by. I am not going to sit here today and
put up the history of a past president, and I will live it at where I left
it. I do not have the time to waste with Kasangwawo who claims to have
teetotalled with the past president. Your claim that he never drunk in his
entire life shows how close you were with the man. His family suing me, hum
that is a good one, for you are setting a task to a family which is entirely
following dad's steps faithfully. Oh you do not believe me? Ask NRM which
proffesionalised in hiring and firing them (As it was playing the fracas of
pleasing Baganda). Give me a Goddam break.

Em

The Mulindwas Communication Group
With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie


- Original Message -
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 Mulindwa,

 Time out ! Stop your lies !

 You again seem to think that if you keep on repeating your lies they'll
 become the truth. Your belief that since your hero is alcoholic then all
the
 other former presidents must have been alcoholics is just bogus. First you
 make all sorts of claims and then you ask to be filled in, implying that
you
 actually don't know what you are talking about. Well, I'll fill you in and
 quench your ignorance.

 Professor Lule (RIP) was a teetotaler. The man never drank alcohol in his
 whole life. He suffered for a long time from leukaemia, to which he
finally
 succumbed. For you to go around peddling such barefaced lies about him is
 despicable. And you call that putting sense into the discussion ! His
family
 should sue you for defamation.

 Kasangwawo

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 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:43:00 -0500
 
 Mwaami Musaazi
 
 You see I respond to you when ever you make sense, but this posting I see
 nothing to respond to. I am sorry.
 Except you have made a remark that I feel I must clear out, and I quote
 I'm
 asking since you had the indignity of insulting a dead man. Now I delude
 my
 self that you are referring to my calling our past president a drunkard.
 Now why did you think that I mentioned that for I hate Baganda? May be I
 have a thing on Moslems, for he was a Moslem. My be I have a thing on
 Moslems who turn Christians for they want to be enrolled in the then
 prestigious Buddo, which would not at a time take a Moslem, for he did.
Why
 were you only concerned for I raised the issue for he was a Muganda?
 
 And lastly Mwaami Musaazi, let us put some sense into this discussion, if
 my
 calling Professor Lule a drunkard who dies of Alcohol poison in his
body,
 is not a true fact, please by all means state so. And if you do not know,
 do
 the civilized thing and shut the hell up. For it must bother any body who
 sees that you are concerned by a comment done against a past president,
and
 you can only cover it with You hate Baganda  Mwaami Musaazi be sensible
 for once, what did Lule die from? Feel us in.
 
 Em
 
  The Mulindwas Communication Group
 With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy
  Groupe de communication Mulindwas
 avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: emmanuel musaazi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 10:01 AM
 Subject: Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero
 
 
   My gosh Mulindwa, your hatred for Buganda is astonishing...anyway,
   personally i'm ok with that, you are entiltled as you have said to
your
   beliefs however you should also know that what you said cuts both
 ways.
 In
   other wards there is no need for an inquiry into Luwero 'cos it is a
   belief by... i don't know which tribe now...you know these tribal
 jargons
   more than i, besides if there was an inquiry, i don't think the UPC
will
   prevail but then that is i guess a belief. Secondly the premise to
my
   arguments is one of perception. If you noticed all the postings i put
up
 are
   opinions of Ugandans and the international community, I can't say UPC
 should
   be taken to court because they are stupid enough to have a dictator
with
   alleged criminal links as head, that is UPC's problem. Already you can
 see
   that the party is begining to crumble, as the rank and file begin to
 feel
   the impact of Obote's baggage not only to the party's image but to
there
 own
   political futures.
  
   This is my argument, i believe that the UPC can redeem itself, but it
 has
 to
   be ready to break away from it's past evils, Mulindwa your argument
(and
   Matek's) is

Re: ugnet_: UPC 'watching' corrupt officials

May be the black book got put away while the high table menu
was steaming and so no need to refer to it.
As to what UPC does or will do about corruption,like you,I really
do not know but let us keep our ears to the ground.
The more things change,the more they remain the same!.
Keep tuning.
Kipenji.
===J Ssemakula [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Whatever happened to Ssemo's famous 'black-book' of the 1980s, did anyone ever get prosecuted because of it or was it just an empty gesture?
What can or will the UPC do about corruption?
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Subject: ugnet_: UPC 'watching' corrupt officials 
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:55:32 -0800 (PST) 

UPC watching corrupt officials 
By Elias Biryabarema 
Nov 6, 2003 - Monitor 


KAMPALA  The Uganda Peoples Congress is keeping a dossier on people it suspects to be stealing public money. 

A senior party official said yesterday that those suspects will be punished when UPC, which ruled between 196271 and 198185, returns to power. 

Were recording what is happening, whos robbing what and which building has he put up and where, Mr Oweyegha Afunaduula, a member of UPCs caretaker body, the Presidential Policy Commission, said yesterday. 

When time comes those who stole from the people will have to return the loot to them, Afunaduula said. 

He was speaking at UPCs weekly news conference at Uganda House. 

Afunaduula did not, however, mention any names already in the dossier. 

The party official also took on President Yoweri Museveni for his statements, made last 
week, that the countrys opposition has no vision for the country. 

Afunaduula said Mr Musevenis vision has been the enhancement of politics of ethnicity, nepotism, fraud, plunder and military adventurism. 
The party official said Musevenis statement was meant to frustrate the spirit of national dialogue which is taking root. 

Government recently appointed a team to hold talks with the opposition parties and organisations over the transition to multiparty politics, expected to start in 2006. 

Afunaduula also disagreed with a claim by Museveni that he has never violated the 1995 Constitution. 

He said the President had appointed more than 21 Cabinet ministers without approval of Parliament and had also appointed a Prime Minister  both in contravention of the Constitution. 


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ugnet_: Chemistory

2003-11-05 Thread Lugemwa FN


According to Isaac

Isaac Asimov said that if you want to find a chemist, ask him or her to discuss the following words: mole and unionized. As he so eloquently put it, "If he or she starts talking about funny animals and organized labor, keep walking." 

The most exciting phrase to hear in science, says Isaac Asimov, the one that heralds new discoveires, is not "Eureka!" (I found it!), but "That's funny." 

Source: Chemist at Work, October '03

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Re: ugnet_: Why does Anne support rebels? - Vironica Tirwomwe




Kipenji

That is one way to look at it, the other way is to 
wonder for we still have a Ugandan out there, who believe that by bringing the 
American support Konny will be stopped. Ugandans why has Museveni played on your 
minds that much, for any body to believe that Uganda will ever have a day when 
Konny is gone and Museveni is still in power, makes the term "Demented 
reasoning" come to a proper use.

Em

 The 
Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in 
anarchy" 
Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans 
l'anarchie"

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Owor 
  Kipenji 
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  Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 4:49 
  PM
  Subject: Re: ugnet_: Why does Anne 
  support rebels? - Vironica Tirwomwe 
  
  Veronica Tirwome's querries are best answered by her hero 
  Mu7 himself.That is the most well placed person to adequately
  answer her querries.
  Kipenji.
  ===Omar 
  Kezimbira [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  

Letter to the editor - Monitor 
6/11/2003

Why does Anne support 
rebels?
It was shocking to learn that Ms Anne Mugisha 
of the Reform Agenda is running amok over US military aid to Uganda. Some 
Reform Agenda members have always been suspected of supporting the Lords 
Resistance Army. We common men wonder why it appears as if she supports the 
rebels. 
It looks she 
does not sleep when she hears government has driven back the rebels. Would 
she be happy if she woke up and found the rebels have reached 
Jinja.
Veronica Tirwomwe,Entebbe.



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Re: ugnet_: Museveni in America

Mr. Ssemakula, my view on this is that President Museveni is being pragmatic 
by trying to make the best of a bad situation. By bad situation i mean 
Uganda being an under developed country with all the baggage that comes with 
that.

Here is why i have agreed with President Museveni and this will also tie in 
with Tanzania's decision to pull out of COMESA. Firstly the classification 
third world is a misnomer. For example China, South Korea, India, Brazil, 
Saudi Arabia and South Africa are classified as third world countries along 
with Uganda, Rwanda, Burundi, Tanzania, Lesotho and Kenya. Mean while United 
States of America has a US$3.3 Billion dollar trade deficit with third 
world China, however third world Uganda has (as you stated) a US$20 
Million dollar trade deficit with the United States, it is obvious from this 
example that it would be very difficult in any forum in which third world 
issues are being discussed, and where Uganda and China sit as equals i.e. 
third world countries, for Uganda's unique situation and economic needs to 
get catered for, and normally at the end of such meetings communiques are 
realesed stating what and what has been done for third world countries and 
what they stand to benefit. The reality is usually, that the upper echelon 
of the third world pack benefit.

Secondly in some other third world fora, there is usually more talk than 
action and this brings me to the Tanzania/COMESA issue. According to 
President Mkapa, Tanzania pulled out of COMESA because he felt COMESA was 
too much of a talk shop We have a propensity for starting and joining all 
kinds of organisations, he said. The result was that we were spending more 
time in conferences than implementing the decisions.. Those are President 
Mkapa's own words. Although it has been said that the main reason was 
because the COMESA region is soon to be a trade free zone which means it 
will be a tarrif-free zone and according to analysts Tanzania was earning a 
lot from import duties, than exports so...you put 2 and 2 together. Back to 
your question, the fore mentioned reasons, plus the post-cold war 
internationa political environment which makes easier for countries to 
freely associate, calls for a more pragmatic approach to trade relations.

I think President Museveni is aware of this and is trying not to put all 
Uganda's eggs in one basket. In other wards sometimes it may be in Uganda's 
interest to have bileteral trade arrangments with some countries, other 
times it may be in Uganda's interest to be part of a multilateral effort. 
Other countries have also opted for bileteral arrangements, a case in point 
is Tanzania. Another good example is OPEC, sometimes some countries decide 
unilaterally to go above or below their quotas, for their national interest. 
I have no problem with that, i don't think Uganda should be forced to sink 
or swim with particular organizations.

As for Agriculture, well it is obviously that, that should be the foundation 
of a strong economy. If you go through the Presidents speech in America, 
along with other public speeches he has made on Uganda's economic growth, he 
has always stressed need to diversify the economy i.e. to move it from 
strictly agriculture based to manufacturing and ultimately to industrial (or 
a good mix of everything) and so far he has been making some progress in 
that direction. The AGOA venture was initiated in that spirit. Overall i 
think the President is leading Uganda on the right path. But it is said that 
you can lead a horse to a stream but you can't force to drink. Cheers.




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Mw. Musaazi:
Perhaps I am missing something here, but it seems to me that Mu7 -- who is said to have sabotaged Third world countries' trade position vs USA at the recent WTO talks in Mexico -- is engaged in an exercise in which gazelles are asking to be fair by not eating the gazelle's off-spring.
Even more puzzling, Mu7 seems to be barking the wrong tree. If you refer to the trade statististics I posted yesterday (subject: something like 'Uganda is a donor'), you'll note that Uganda's trade deficit with the US is of the order of US $20million, while Uganda's trade deficit with COMESA countries (in Africa) is of the order of US $450million annually.
Isn'tMu7 being penny-wise, but pound-foolish in this case? 
Does Uganda have a trade policy and if so where is it and what does it say? Do any of the political parties have a trade policy and if so where is it and what does it say?If they do not have such in place, when do they hope to get them? (They certainly have had lots of

ugnet_: Two victories, now Nyai faces a political drought

2003-11-05 Thread gook makanga

Two victories, now Nyai faces a political drought People finder --- By Halima Abdallah Nov 5 , 2003

There is some good in losing a political campaign even if you are the one that spent a whole lot of money on it.
Not only do you get to know who your friends are, you also learn a bit of humility. That is political loss according to Dick Nyai.
Nyai, 61, was the representative for Ayivu County in Arua in the Sixth Parliament. He lost the seat in 2001 to Ms Zoë Bakoko Bakoru, who is now Minister for Labour.
Losing teaches one a very nice lesson, says Nyai.

You get to know the good friends and learn some humility; that other people can also do what you did.

He describes it as sheer arrogance when one thinks that they are the only ones that can represent a county or indeed, lead a country.
That reasoning is not well founded, he says.
Nyai is no stranger to losing elections.
In 1988 when he made his political debut, it was to contest for the countys seat in the National Resistance Council. He lost.
He tried again in 1994 for the Constituent Assembly. And won.
In the 1996 elections, Nyai again successfully defended his seat against intrusion. But his election victories are not the only things that bring joy to Nyai as he reminisces.
He speaks with fondness of a career as a journalist one that he terminated to join politics a narrow escape, and of an exemplary record in the Sixth Parliament.
One of the major debates of the Sixth Parliament, 1996-2001, concerned the sale of the Uganda Commercial Bank.
Nyai was opposed to the sale of the bank; he believed still does that this action was not necessary.
Today he laments: Government injected Shs 120bn to re-capitalise the bank and then sold it cheaply. I am still opposed to that sell of our only silver.
He faults government for not investigating Westmont Land Asia, the company that bought the bank. He maintains that Ugandans were capable of buying shares in the bank.
Journalists had a soft spot for Nyai as a legislator.
His presentations were often covered and he was perceived as vibrant and focussed on issues. And he would never budge once he had stated his position usually one that was not popular with the Executive.
Some of the bills he moved successfully include the Judicial Commission of Inquiry that investigated the banking sector.
This bill followed the closure of three banks: International Credit Bank, Greenland Bank and Co-operative Bank almost at the same time as a result of financial scandals.
Nyai also lists among his achievements the bill that ensured that government continued to finance the cotton sector from which many Ugandans still derive their livelihoods.
Today Nyai is appalled at what he describes as the absolute lack of respect for Parliament by the Executive.
How, he queries, can the president and his Finance minister simply cut the budgets of other ministries to reward others without first consulting with Parliament?
But Nyais political retirement has not been that easy.
Many people tend to think that legislators have it made; what with all the connections that they make as they go about their day-to-day business. Not so for Nyai.
He said, Since I lost my seat, am still trying to find my level.
An NGO the East African Watch Centre that he has been trying to get off the ground just wont move. The trouble, he says, is all the mushrooming NGOs dealing in mostly the same things.
The centre aims to educate people on their constitutional and civic rights.
Nyai is also a member of the Society for International Development Scenario Projects that, he says, is into looking at the past and present and trying to predict the possible development for the future.
He does however own a pub in Luzira, a suburb of Kampala, called Amigos though it is not doing well at the moment. He blames it on the harsh economic situation.
These are some of the things that have occupied him as he tries to steer away from his constituency politics to allow the tempers cool after the elections.
I did not want my presence to be a diversionary factor, he explains with regard to a question over his choosing to stay in Kampala rather than his home area canvassing for future elections.
I have accepted my loss, there is nothing Im crying about. I wish the Minister Bakoko Bakoru well.
Nyai reluctantly talks about the reasons that led him lose his seat.
I concentrated too much on the national politics to the detriment of my constituency. I abandoned my constituency, he said.
He also blames a portion of loss to the polarisation of politics in his constituency.
But he says his constituents would credit him for being part of the lobby that finally got the Arua-Pakwach road tarred and the installation of the ferry at Wanseko-Panyimur as a transport alternative to West Nile travellers.
In the meantime, Nyai nurses a dream.
It is to do with reviving the Uganda Peoples Congress in preparation for the opening of the

ugnet_: UNCOUNTABLE RAPES IN THE CONGO




Uncountable Rapes In The 
CongoNews24.com - SA 
11-5-3


  
  

  
GENEVA -- United Nations 
relief workers are finding thousands of women who have suffered 
"atrocious rapes" during five years of civil war in Congo, a 
spokesperson said on Tuesday. 
 
"Never before have we found as many victims of rape in 
conflict situations as we are discovering now," said Christiane 
Berthiaume, spokeswoman for the World Food Programme. 
 
"Thousands of women who have been atrociously raped 
are coming to health centres for treatment," she added. "We strongly 
fear that it is only the tip of the iceberg." 
 
UN officials, joined by actress Jessica Lange, have 
expressed alarm previously about the rapes committed by the warring 
factions in Congo, but Berthiaume said a peace accord has shown the 
situation was worse than feared. 
 
"We have been able to gain access to more regions and 
vulnerable people who have been hidden and now are arriving in cities in 
search of help, food and care," Berthiaume said. 
 
She said relief workers estimate that for every woman 
who has sought treatment, 30 more either remain in hiding or have been 
unable to travel the long distances to health centers. 
 
'Systematically' raped 
 
"These are women and girls from five to 80 years old 
who have been systematically raped a number of times, tortured and 
shot," Berthiaume said. 
 
Some have walked 300km suffering from bad wounds, 
including bullet holes in their vaginas, burst bladders and broken legs, 
she said. 
 
Many have been rejected by their husbands, others will 
never be able to have children again and a number are too weak from 
hunger to be able to withstand an operation, Berthiaume said. 
 
She said the United Nations is distributing food to 
women in Goma and Bukavu so that they can save their money for 
surgery. 
 
"Some must undergo several operations to repair the 
damage," Berthiaume said. 
 
Lange, a goodwill ambassador for the United Nations 
Children's Fund, spent a week in the region last August as a French-led 
international force finished securing the Bunia area and handed over 
supervision to UN peacekeepers. 
 
She called the Congo situation "the worst humanitarian 
crisis on the planet and the worst documented war in the history of 
Africa". 
 
Civil war broke out in Congo in August 1998 when 
Uganda and Rwanda sent troops to back rebels seeking to oust 
then-President Laurent Kabila. 
 
 
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