Re: ugnet_: 1962 unworkable arrangement!

2004-02-29 Thread jonah kasangwawo
Kipenji,

why don't you compare the two and find out for yourself?

The 1962 constitution (main excerpts) is at:

http://www.federo.com/Pages/Uganda_Constitution_1962.htm

while the federal proposal is at:

http://www.federo.com/Pages/FedsNet%20Federal%20Proposals.htm

Kasangwawo

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Apart from the naming of the proposed 13 states,is there anything
fundamentally different from the 1962 unworkable arrangement?
Just wondering aloud.
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Re: ugnet_: 1962 unworkable arrangement!

2004-02-29 Thread Owor Kipenji
So this time around,you did that very extensive consultations and
yo!,you discovered that Bugisu and Sebei for example can work 
together or better still Bukedi which you refer to and yet that entity
never exists anymore???.
The taste of the pudding is in the eating and so I will keep my ears
to the ground.
Thank you.
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SV: ugnet_: 1962 unworkable arrangement!

2004-02-29 Thread dbbwanika db
Mw. Kasangwawo 

Unfortunately I happen to agree to small entities call them districts or federal entities for matter or organisational and managerial reasons. 
They are easy to monitor and run by us in Uganda.

However just a few months ago I forwarded a proposal in such one district in Buganda for the development of that districts towns – this is a personal effort exactly as we have done since 1996.

I met with the so-called engineer who actually happens to be the district town planner – I went through the entire plan and how the project was to be financed, executed and how the district was to benefit. Luckily the man had had some idea about what I was talking about and loved the idea so much. 

That was the last time I saw the district town engineer planner despite a month of trial to get the man take up the proposal to a higher level for action and implementation!

Last time I read in the papers that he and others were being investigated by IGG for misappropriation of district funds. End.

FEDERO

As of the above I have heard and seen with my own eyes similar stories and things – how will federo solve these and other deeply rooted human pervasive behaviourism and I also what to know FEDEROs’ solution to such problems and how they will be solved? 

bwanika.


Kipenji, 

why don't you compare the two and find out for yourself? 

The 1962 constitution (main excerpts) is at: 

http://www.federo.com/Pages/Uganda_Constitution_1962.htm 

while the federal proposal is at: 

http://www.federo.com/Pages/FedsNet%20Federal%20Proposals.htm 

Kasangwawo 

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ugnet_: Luwero MP list -

2004-02-29 Thread dbbwanika db
http://www.idr.co.ug/dfwa-u/gallery.htm   

http://www.idr.co.ug/dfwa-u/gallery.htm   


Dr. Kisamba Mugerwa - MP, Minister of Agriculture
Professor Dr. Kiddu Makubuya MP, Minister of Education
Professor Dr. Victoria Nakiboneka Mwaka MP
Lt. Kinobe Kinobe James William Leuben MP
Hajati Syda Bumba MP minister of Energy

you want contacts please visit them here below;

http://www.luwero.go.ug/contacts/index.htm
 visit also Apac 
http://www.apac.go.ug/administration/mps.htm
or more still
http://www.apac.go.ug/contacts/index.htm


more info about  Luwero administration
http://www.luwero.go.ug/background/index.htm


about Apac administration
http://www.apac.go.ug/administration/index.htm

fact sheet:

Ndejje University struggling
Nakaseke just closed down
Nakaseke Hospital / Nursing school 
Kiwoko Hospital Owner Dr. Ian Clark
Luwero Secondary /Higher School

Major trading unplanned town centers -

Bombo
Wobulenzi
Bamunanika
Kiwoko
Luwero
Nakeseke

No single tarmacked road - except Gulu -Kampala road.

Apac District 

http://www.apac.go.ug/administration/mps.htm

Mbarara
http://www.mbarara.go.ug/administration/index.htm

Gulu
http://www.gulu.go.ug/contacts/index.htm

Karamoja 

http://www.karamoja.org/develop/

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ugnet_: The notorious Lord's Resistance Army (LRA) rebels have devastated much of nor

2004-02-29 Thread Matekopoko


In Pictures:Taking cover



Fleeing villagers

The notorious "Lord's Resistance Army (LRA) rebels" have devastated much of northern Uganda. Thousands of villagers have fled their homes for fear of being killed or abducted. A UN official last year described the humanitarian situation as worse than anywhere else in the world.Some of those affected told their stories to the BBCs Will Ross.









"The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth becomes the greatest enemy of the state." 

- Dr. Joseph M. Goebbels - Hitler's propaganda minister 










ugnet_: In Pictures from the BBC.

2004-02-29 Thread Matekopoko
In Pictures:Taking cover



Apalling conditions

Tony Ogwang lives with his family at a former starch factory.They have lived in these appalling conditions since August 2002. "I came here because I couldnt stay at home in Moroto County where "rebels" can attack us."I live here with my family of five including my baby Harriet, who is two-and-a-half years old." 




"The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth becomes the greatest enemy of the state." 

- Dr. Joseph M. Goebbels - Hitler's propaganda minister 










ugnet_: Victoria (front) and other IDPs fleeing Barlonyo Notice the Dehumanization

2004-02-29 Thread Matekopoko
Over 1.2 million people are living in testing conditions in IDP camps across northern Uganda," AI said. 
]

  
 Victoria (front) and other IDPs 
 fleeing Barlonyo 
 Museveni's Defence Minister Mr Amama Mbabazi says he
 will Catch."Kony"...and that there is no Humanitrain Disaster
 in Northern and Eastern Uganda



Museveni at the Commonwealth meeting..pretending that all is well in Northern Uganda..Kaguta says the people of Northern and Eastern Uganda are in the camps out of their own choice ( notice the eyes of a conman)
 



Residents in camps outside Lira town told IRIN that conditions were appalling, made so by lack of adequate food, water, sanitation and medicine. Scores of children had died, they said. "I see children dying of cholera every day, and some have died because there is no water - they are drying up. I have personally buried 17 in the last week," said Joseph Omara, a church leader in Omoro IDP camp. Omoro, 60 km east of Lira, houses about 10,000 people. 

Omara said many other IDPs had been killed by "rebels" as they ventured outside the camps. "People leave the camps to collect food, and that's where they [the LRA] strike. On Friday [13 February], they killed a boy called Alio. 




"The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth becomes the greatest enemy of the state." 

- Dr. Joseph M. Goebbels - Hitler's propaganda minister 










ugnet_: 1962 unworkable arrangement!

2004-02-29 Thread Lugemwa FN
Musawo Kipenyi:

Thou shall know the difference between your baby and someone else's baby.

FN Lugemwa : [EMAIL PROTECTED]jonah kasangwawo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kipenji,why don't you compare the two and find out for yourself?The 1962 constitution (main excerpts) is at:http://www.federo.com/Pages/Uganda_Constitution_1962.htmwhile the federal proposal is at:http://www.federo.com/Pages/FedsNet%20Federal%20Proposals.htmKasangwawoFrom: Owor Kipenji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: ugnet_: 1962 unworkable arrangement!Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 00:40:02 + (GMT)Apart from the naming of the proposed 13 states,is there anythingfundamentally different from the 1962 unworkable arrangement?Just wondering aloud.Kipenji.===- Yahoo! Messenger -
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ugnet_: Harvard Says Poor Parents Won’t Have to Pay

2004-02-29 Thread Lugemwa FN




Harvard Says Poor Parents Won’t Have to PayFebruary 29, 2004By KAREN W. ARENSONAiming to get more low-income students to enroll, Harvardwill stop asking parents who earn less than $40,000 to makeany contribution toward the cost of their children'seducation. Harvard will also reduce the amount it seeksfrom parents with incomes between $40,000 and $60,000.

"When only 10 percent of the students in elite highereducation come from families in the lower half of theincome distribution, we are not doing enough," saidLawrence H. Summers, president of Harvard, who willannounce the financial aid changes at a meeting of theAmerican Council on Education in Miami Beach today.
Dr. Summers said that higher education, rather than beingan engine of social mobility, may be inhibiting it becauseof the wide gap in college attendance for students fromdifferent income classes.
Harvard officials said they believed theirs would be thefirst selective college to remove the parental contributionfor low-income students, though some colleges do thisunofficially to attract students they want.
At Harvard, the idea of eliminating the parentalcontribution grew out of focus groups with lower-incomestudents last fall. University officials found that many ofthe students were paying some or all of their parents'share themselves.
Peter M. Brown, a junior from Oklahoma who participated inthe focus groups, said that was true for him. One of sevenchildren whose father died in 1991 and whose mother worksas a schoolteacher, he said he did not show his mother thebill for the parental contribution. Last year it was nearly $3,000.
Only 7 percent of Harvard undergraduates are from familieswith earnings in the lowest quarter of American householdincomes, and 16 percent are from the bottom half. Nearlythree-quarters are from families with earnings in the topquarter.
Dr. Summers said that the numbers at most other selectiveprivate colleges were similar.
Harvard's tuition this year is $26,066. With room, board,books and other expenses, the total can reach $44,000.Harvard provides about $80 million in scholarship aid.
Parents who earn less than $40,000 are now asked tocontribute an average of $2,300. That figure will drop tozero under the new plan, which begins in the fall. Parentswith incomes of $40,000 to $60,000 will have their contributions cut to an average of $2,250, from an average of $3,500.
Students will still be expected to contribute by workingover the summer and in the school year.
Harvard officials said they expected the new initiative tocost about $2 million next year and to help about 1,000 ofthe 6,600 undergraduates.
As tuition and other costs at most colleges have risenfaster than family incomes have, students have increasinglyturned to loans.
Harvard and other universities with large endowments havegiven more grants in recent years, reducing the amountstudents must borrow. Princeton has removed loans from itsaid packages for all students. Harvard has reduced loansbut allows students to use them to offset the amount ofwork they must do. This year, Harvard graduates will havean average debt of $8,800, compared with $14,600 in 1998.
Mr. Brown, the junior, said his mother's entire salary waswell below the cost of a year at Harvard. In the past, hehas simply asked her what she felt she could contribute.
"She'd give me a figure," he said. "It was not as much asthe school asked. I would say, `I really appreciate that,'and then I would make up the difference."
He said he led a "spartan life" at school to save money.Besides spending about 10 hours a week on a federally
subsidized campus job, he is always looking for other jobsor studies that pay participants.
Under the new plan, he said, "I won't have to look everyweek for people who need boxes moved or other things."
Brian K. Fitzgerald, staff director for the AdvisoryCommittee on Student Financial Assistance, said Mr. Brown'ssituation was not unusual.
"Lots of kids, including middle-income kids, are making upthat parental expectation out of their own earnings," saidDr. Fitzgerald, whose committee advises Congress.
Under federal financial aid programs, parents who earn lessthan $15,000 a year are not expected to contribute to theirchildren's college education; the advisory committee hasrecommended that that figure be raised to $35,000, or atleast $25,000.
"The reality today is that in families earning $35,000,those parental contributions are simply not there," Dr.Fitzgerald said.
Dr. Summers said that making college more affordable forlow-income, high-ability students would address only partof the problem. The more difficult challenge, he said, wasgiving lower-achieving, low-income students the supportthey need to qualify academically.He said Harvard would expand its recruitment oflower-income students. Harvard is also starting a summeracademy this year for high school students from low-income families.



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ugnet_: .Remember this faces..

2004-02-29 Thread Matekopoko

Army Spokesman Maj. Bantariza
(Museveni's Dr. Joseph M. Goebbels) 

You cannot say you were "following orders"





"The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth becomes the greatest enemy of the state." 

- Dr. Joseph M. Goebbels - Hitler's propaganda minister 


ugnet_: Obote speaks on attacks

2004-02-29 Thread gook makanga
Obote speaks on attacks By Nabusayi L. Wamboka March 1, 2004




KAMPALA - Former President Milton Obote has laid the blame for the recent Barlonyo rebel massacre on President Museveni's shoulders. Mr Obote said the February 21 massacre, in which an estimated 200 people died, was meant to show rebel leader Joseph Kony's brutality to officials of the International Criminal Court who arrived in Lira before the February 25 public demonstrations.





Mr Obote"He does not want international peacekeepers but wants the International Criminal Court to investigate The massacres were committed so that Museveni can tell the ICC of numbers killed by LRA" Obote said. 

"Since the killers used heavy weapons available only to the UPDF, the ICC in their investigations must start with when and at what time they received reports," he wrote.
Kony, who faces possible prosecution by the International Criminal Court, has been fighting Museveni's government since 1988. 
Obote said Museveni is overwhelmed by problems and wants the problem of the LRA to look as if it is an issue between the Langi and Acholi.
Obote also said that he was stopped from making a broadcast in Luo about the massacres in Abia and Barlonyo camps last week.
Lira's district security committee reportedly cancelled the programme. About 50 people were killed in a rebel attack on Abia on February 5. "Radio Unity FM rang me that I make a broadcast in Luo. It was cancelled on the ground that the situation was very tense and no one, worst of all Milton Obote, must be allowed to fuel it further," Obote said in a letter sent to Dr James Rwanyarare on February 26.
Rwanyarare, UPC's Presidential Policy Commission chairman, said he had not received the letter.
According to Obote, he wanted to make an appeal to the people in Lango never to think that the Acholi are their enemy.
"Whether the massacres were committed by the LRA as being claimed, it is the dictatorship who has the Constitutional responsibilities to protect the lives and property of the citizens they must blame and take to task," Obote wrote.Army spokesman Maj. Shaban Bantariza said he was not aware of any security agents blocking Obote from addressing the Langi.
Bantariza laughed off Obote's claim that Museveni was behind the massacres saying, "That is just Obote."
© 2004 The Monitor Publications

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ugnet_: Govt rejects 1,000 Green Cards

2004-02-29 Thread gook makanga
Govt rejects 1,000 Green Cards By Patrick Onyango March 1, 2004




PARLIAMENT - Government rejected an American offer of Green Cards to 1,000 Ugandans, MPs have learnt.
Bukoto East MP John Nsambu told the committee on Presidential and Foreign Affairs on February 26 that government rejected the US offer, saying Ugandans would flee the country and seek political asylum in America.
If many Ugandans fled, the MP said, government feared that its image would be tainted.
"We don't have enough jobs here, the education system is not good here and they [government officials] are just sitting on all these chances," Nsambu said.The US government offers some 50,000 diversity visas (Green Cards) every year to foreign citizens, granting them permanent residence and work permits.
The offer was made five years ago during President Bill Clinton's administration.
Mr Muruli Mukasa (Nakasongola) said that it is not government's policy to block Ugandans from enjoying such opportunities. 
He said it is just a few individuals in government who deny others the chance to get a better standard of living.
Mukasa is the former minister of state for Security. Committee chairwoman Salaamu Musumba said that the government has let down its people in all spheres.
The committee resolved to call Foreign minister James Wapakhabulo to explain why the government rejected the offer.
Nsambu told The Monitor that when the government rejected the offer it was passed on to the Philippines, which took it up readily.
"The [Filipinos] took it and we missed out," Nsambu said. Mr Julius Onen, the acting permanent secretary in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, told The Monitor that he has not heard of the American offer. He said, however, that the government is working on a strategy to see that Ugandans work and live abroad.
A source within the ministry told The Monitor that the Middle East and European countries normally extend job offers to the government but because Uganda does not have a law on migrant workers such job offers cannot be made public.
The source said that normally foreign governments contact Ugandan embassies and pass on the information about job opportunities. 
"Right now Canada is in high need of artisans, they have informed our ambassador and the ambassador contacted us but we can not go out in the public to announce that there are jobs in Canada," the source said.
The source said that it is now up to individuals to make arrangement to go to Canada.
"Even Norway, Demark they want people to work at a middle level in farms but there is no law to back us up to make it public," the source.
Onen confirmed to The Monitor at the weekend that Canada currently needs artisans but people are supposed to make their individual arrangements to go there but not through the government.
Artisans that are needed in Canada are carpenters, welders, bricklayers, plumbers.
Onen said that the ministry is trying to create a data bank where people with specific qualifications and contact addresses can be stored so that when foreign governments offer jobs to Ugandans then they would be picked easily.
He said that the ministry is sending a team to Cairo next week to study how they managed to formulate a policy on sending people abroad for jobs.
"I think this way we shall be able to assist our people to get jobs abroad," Onen said. 
© 2004 The Monitor Publications



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ugnet_: National shame in the killing fields of north

2004-02-29 Thread gook makanga






Letter to A Kampala Friend: 

By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto National shame in the killing fields of north March 1, 2004




Dear Tingasiga,
Fifty Ugandans murdered at Abia in Lango on February 5. While some call the killings a massacre, President Yoweri T. K. Museveni calls them a hiccup. Two weeks later, more Ugandans are murdered at Barlonyo in Lango. There is debate about the numbers killed. Is it 240, as the press is reporting? Is it "only" 84, as the government is insisting? 
Memories of another debate ten years ago come flooding back. In 1994, US President Bill Clinton and his officials argued that the mass murder of 500,000 people in Rwanda was not a genocide. 
Does it really matter how many have fallen in the latest carnage in the killing fields of Uganda? What if "only" a dozen have been murdered? What if the number is closer to 1,000?
One recalls that the deaths of about 50 to 80 students at Kasese's Kichwamba Technical College in June 1998 were universally referred to as a massacre. Words matter, Tingasiga. They reflect our attitudes. The Kichwamba massacre. The Abia hiccup. Equal numbers. Different reactions. 
The people of Lango react to the latest carnage the only way they can. They march into Lira, to weep together, to demand justice and to demand protection. Elsewhere in the country, life goes on. No doubt the people in Acholi know exactly what their brethren in Lango are going through. 
Oh yes, the news from Lango is sickening, even frightening for fellow citizens in the peaceful southern half of the country. People talk about it, write about it, preach about and pray for divine intervention in "the north."
But that is as far as it goes. No supportive marches in other cities. No collective demonstration of solidarity with fellow Ugandans who stare death in the face everyday.
Is this a reflection of our inherited prejudice towards Ugandans from the northern region? You see, on the day of the massacres, a friend called to share the news. "Those people are finishing each other," my friend announced. 
No my friend, I tell him. It is not those people. It is our people. We are killing each other. It is not a war in the north. It is a war in our country. We are in this together. 
His silence suggests he is hearing this thought for the first time. We have lessons to learn from North America, where massacres of another sort have occurred in recent years. 
On December 6, 1989, a woman-hater called Marc Lepine killed fourteen female students at Ecole Polytechnique, an engineering school in Montreal, where he is a student. He then turns the gun on himself.
Fourteen women murdered because they are women. The horrible event is instantly called The Montreal Massacre. No debate about the semantics. 
Canada bows its head in collective shame. This country that is permanently narcotized by its peace and prosperity is awakened to the reality of misogyny, male violence and sexism that lurks in its midst. 
The lives of those 14 women are so important that the government of Canada declares December 6 the National Day of Remembrance and Action on Violence Against Women. 
Fourteen years later, the Montreal Massacre haunts this nation, and informs its efforts to prevent similar tragedies. On April 20, 1999, a couple of Columbine High School students in Littleton, Colorado, propelled by mind-altering drugs, killed 12 of their schoolmates and one teacher, wounding 23 others before turning their guns on themselves. 
America is shocked. The Columbine massacre becomes a major milestone in the disintegration of the American soul. To one and all, the carnage at Columbine is a massacre. Not a hiccup.
All Americans, brown and pink, ebony and orange, Christian and Jew, rich and poor, Republican and Democrat, join together in a collective process of mourning. The rest of the world, including Africa, joins them. 
Even as the tears roll down their cheeks, what occupies Americans, and their cousins north of the border, is the search for answers and for strategies to prevent another Columbine. 
Five years later, the soul searching continues. Columbine is America's collective shame. Uganda has had many Columbines, and then some. 
From Nakulabye in 1964, through Mbarara [Simba Barracks] in 1971, to Luwero in the 1980s, Ugandan blood has flowed in great torrents. 
Recently, we have added to the catalogue - Mukura, Katakwi in Teso; Corner Kilak, Bur Coro, Atiak, Acol Pii, Pader in Acholi; Kichwamba in Kasese; Kanungu in Kigezi; Karamoja; Abia and Barlonyo in Lango. 
These are a few that have made the headlines. Hundreds of thousands have died in "less newsworthy" encounters with armed fellow citizens. Yet after each event has been reported, and exploited by those who seek political capital out of the bloodshed, life goes on as if nothing has happened. 
What lessons have we learned from our forty-year experience with self-destructive violence? On March 17, 2000, over 500 people perished at Kanungu in what was reportedly a 

Re: ugnet_: Intro

2004-02-29 Thread Mitayo Potosi
Hey James Muna,

We were missing you so much.  I just finished a dinner of posho/kawunga and 
was feeling homesick. Nice to hear from the brother !!!

Very sad our people in the northern half of the country continue to die like 
flies...  with no end in sight!!

Mitayo Potosi


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Hello James!
Hello My Son!
Welcome back aboard Ugandanet!
I trust you brought back alot of wisdom and humour,
right?
Looking forward to your participation.

May the new year be all you expect for You and your
family.
amkintu
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 I am back to Ugandanet after a 2 year sabbatical. I
 look forward to
 re-integrating in this community once again.

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RE: ugnet_: Intro

2004-02-29 Thread Mitayo Potosi
James how is linux getting along down there.  I envy you guys!! You must all 
be living like kings. Has it (linux) taken off in schools and colleges?

If you guys have any training you are offering in linux, let me know so that 
I could send you some college-linux-syllabus for comparision.

Mitayo Potosi

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Hi all

I am back to Ugandanet after a 2 year sabbatical. I look forward to
re-integrating in this community once again.
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