[Ugnet] NRA, UNLA killed people in Luweero, says Ruranga
NRA, UNLA killed people in Luweero, says Ruranga HUSSEIN BOGERE KAMPALA Major Rubaramira Ruranga, the Forum for Democratic Change (FDC) deputy coordinator for mobilisation, has said parties are not the cause of Uganda's bloody history. 1981-86 guerrilla warHe also dismissed common belief that former president Milton Obote's Uganda National Liberation Army (UNLA) are solely responsible for civilian killings in Luweero during the 1981-86 guerrilla war. There have been a lot of complaints that Obote killed people. The people of Luweero were used as shields. The whole claim that the National Resistance Army (NRA) didn't kill people is bullshit. NRA caused the bloody past not the UPC, Ruranga said.He was speaking at the party's weekly press briefing at FDC offices in Najjanankumbi yesterday. Ruranga is a retired soldier who was in President Yoweri Museveni's NRA follower which captured power in 1986 after a five-year bush war that was fought mainly in Luweero. Hundreds of thousands of civilians were killed during the war. Asked whether the NRA participated in the killings, Ruranga said, "Anybody who has participated in war, to deny that he didn't kill a c ivilian is really missing the point." The civilians massacres in Luweero have been widely blamed on the UNLA.Obote could not have killed all those people. In the bush, we had a commander who was keeping track of everything that was taking place and kept records. Unfortunately I was not on the high command, but those who were, know what happened. I saw people die of hunger, bullets...," Ruranga said.The Luweero war was fought between the then NRA (now UPDF) and Obote's UNLA.Ruranga wondered why the government continues to claim that it didn't kill people. He said when the NRA were in the bush, the killings were blamed on Obote, who was then the president. But today when other groups like the LRA are in the bush, the killings are blamed on them. This is to create an impression that Museveni's government never kills at all, Ruranga said. The FDC Spokesman, Mr Wafula Oguttu, said they will set up a truth and reconciliation commission to loo k into the killings if they assume power next year.He said the writing off of Africa's debt burden by the developed world will not bear any good result unless African leaders change their attitudes."We would like to state that Africa's problems namely poverty, wars, low production, lack of industrialisation, poor education and low technological skills, poor health services are largely manmade. Our corrupt and dictatorial leaders are mainly responsible for Africa's woes and stagnation, he said.Wafula said no amount of donor money would cause positive change in Uganda unless the country's leaders change their attitudes.We believe Africa will not change much unless transparency and accountability, democracy, tolerance of other people's views, using the army to overstay in power and corruption are seriously tackled, he said. Wafula said Uganda will not change under President Yoweri Museveni because "the money will be stolen." "Whether you give him 50 years, not much will change because he is part of the problem. He is now asking for markets in Europe, for what? What can we make in Uganda that Museveni can sell to Europe?" Wafula asked. The eight most industrialised countries under their G8 umbrella last week in Scotland agreed to forgive debts owed to them by the world's poorest countries and at the same time increased the aid to the developing countries. More corruption"More aid money will mean more corruption, more buying of votes and loyalty and more state inspired terror and all other kinds of repression against the opposition as is the case in President Museveni's Uganda today, Wafula said.He asked the donors to be interested accountability of the money they give to Uganda . Asked whether this would not amount to interfering in Uganda's politics, Wafula said, In some of these countries, if you misappropriate even Shs5 million, you end up in jail. Sell on Yahoo! Auctions - No fees. Bid on great items.___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/
[Ugnet] Amama Mbabazi vs The US Ambassodor Kolker? who is speaking the truth?
Fellow citizens: It does appear that Museveni's Minister Amama Mbabazi wants the people of Uganda to some how believe that when it comes to interpreting and communicating US policy on Uganda, the US Ambassador is wrong .ONLY Mr. Amama Mbabazi is CORRECT! Ambassador Jimmy Kolker, very eloquently pointed that he was at the meeting between President Bush and Museveni...and that during that meeting, Mr. Bush pointed out to Yoweri Museveni that the US is opposed to Museveni's "KISANGANI " effort to try and rule Uganda for ever. ..and now we hear Amama Mbabazi emerging and telling us that the US is actually NOT opposed to Museveni's "Kasanga project" !!! Who then should the people believe when it comes to Interpreting US policy, on Uganda? ..the US representative as in ambassador Jimmy Kolker or Mr Amama Mbabazi? Matek What Bush said on kisanja - Amama Monitor Reporter KAMPALA President Goerge Bush asked President Yoweri Museveni about plans to amend the constitution to lift presidential term limits but did not enunciate a US policy about the matter, Defence Minister Amama Mbabazi has clarified.Responding to a Sunday Monitor report quoting the US ambassador to Uganda, Mr Jimmy Kolker, that President Bush advised President Museveni to retire from politics in 2006 Mbabazi disclosed that he attended the 2003 White House meeting between the two presidents, and that the American leader only enquired about the proposed constitution amendment and if the latter was preparing to retire at the end of his second term of office.He stated that the two term limit had worked well for the US, Mbabazi said yesterday in a statement. He raised the matter by way of inquiry. President Museveni in his response said that the Ugandan leadership was studying the issue and would come up with a position when ready. ConstitutionAmama says Bush never said that Uganda should not consider amending her constitution or that, if it is amended, President Museveni should not consider offering himself for re-election. Indeed in the numerous interactions I have had with US Administration officials I have been told repeatedly that the US Administration has no problem with Uganda amending her constitution if it is done legally and transparently, he added.The minister argued that even if the US government opposed the removal of term limits, the matter is for Ugandans to decide. We can listen and even adopt foreign friendly advice, but clearly the decisions are for Ugandans to make.Ambassador Kolker said in an interview with Daily Monitors Andrew Mwenda that Mr Bush had referred to his Ugandan counterpart as a fellow rancher, and expressed the wish to retire to his ranch at the end of his term of office and hoped that Mr Museveni would do the same. Bush rep ortedly explained to Museveni the benefits of peaceful transfer of power that is made possible by respecting the constitutional term limits.In his statement yesterday, Amama Mbabazi argued that term limits on their own do not just lead to the peaceful transition, and cited several countries that have no term limits but have enjoyed peace as power passes from one leader to the next. Sell on Yahoo! Auctions - No fees. Bid on great items.___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/
[Ugnet] Museveni is Like Hitler - MP Sabiiti
Museveni is Like Hitler - MP Sabiiti Email This Page Print This Page VisitThePublisher'sSite The Monitor (Kampala) July 11, 2005 Posted to the web July 11, 2005 Sam AmanyireBushenyi RUKIGA County MP Jack Sabiiti has blamed President Yoweri Museveni saying his quest for shedding blood is like that of Hitler. "Iam serious about this. Museveni should be taken to a psychaitrist because where ever he goes people die. He is like Hitler who killed indiscriminately because he was mad," Sabiiti said. Sabiiti, who is also the Financial Coordinator for the Forum For Democratic Change (FDC) was on Saturday addressing a rally at Ishaka after launching the party office in Bushenyi. He said when Museveni went to Luweero, people died and the same has happened in Gulu, Rwanda and DR Congo. "Nevertheless, FDC won't allow Museveni to continue ruling Uganda with an iron hand," Sabiiti said. Sabiiti said when he sees Museveni explaining poverty which he has deliberately caused, it makes him believe that there is something wrong with the president. "We want a peaceful country. We don't want war, but if we don't solve the issue of the presidency in this country, there will be wars," he said. He said FDC is ready to forgive Museveni just like all past presidents. "We want fairness and equity. But if he proves a rogue, Ugandans can also be worse rogues than him," Sabiiti warned. Former Army Commander, Maj. Gen. Mugisha Muntu, said, "We want for the first time to change power without war. But if you are pushed against the wall, you force your way out," he said. Muntu said the same people, who deceived Obote that he was popular, had advised Museveni wrongly. He said Museveni would manipulate his way and claim that he had been forced to stand for presidency in 2006. The FDC interim Chairperson, Ms Salamu Musumba, attended the rally.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/
[Ugnet] DR Congo villagers burnt to death
DR Congo villagers burnt to death The United Nations peacekeeping force in the Democratic Republic of Congo says at least 30 people were burnt to death in their huts on Saturday night. Monuc sent 50 peacekeepers to Mamba village, in South Kivu province, to verify reports it had been attacked by Rwandan Hutu militias. They discovered a village burnt to the ground and two mass graves. Witnesses said 39 villagers, mostly women and children, had been locked in their huts which were then set ablaze. The BBC's Arnaud Zajtman in the Congolese capital Kinshasa says the massacre took place 40 km west of Bukavu in the park of Kahozi Biega, a rebel stronghold where UN peacekeepers have only recently begun patrols. The UN believes the massacre could be a warning to the local population not to co-operate with the peacekeepers. Denial Much of the South Kivu region is under the control of the FDLR, which is accused of playing a lead role in the 1994 genocide in Rwanda in which about 800,000 Tutsis and moderate Hutus were killed by Hutu militias. Speaking from his exile in Brussels, the leader of the Hutu rebels, Ignace Murwanashyaka, denied ordering the attack, and blamed a splinter group. Hutu rebels fled Rwanda and crossed into Eastern Congo 11 years ago after their alleged involvement in the Rwandan genocide. An estimated 15,000 Hutu rebels are still active and represent one of the main threats to security in the area. Several rounds of negotiations and a UN-sponsored voluntary disarmament programme have failed to restore peace to Eastern Congo. The rebels say that they will return peacefully to Rwanda only when the political situation allows, but recently the UN peacekeepers and the Congolese army have threatened to use force to disarm the militiamen. __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/
[Ugnet] Govt sold National Housing without the knowledge of PU
All the Movement has done is to sell, sell and sell. Talk of progress...! Govt sold National Housing without the knowledge of PU ELIAS BIRYABAREMA Daily Monitor, 12/7/2005 KAMPALA THE government by-passed the Privatisation Unit in the sale of the 49 percent stake of the National Housing and Construction Corporation (NHCC) to the Libyan government, an anomaly that has apparently infuriated officials. Information available to Daily Monitor shows that the PU - created by the Public Enterprises Reform and Divestiture Statute 1993 and charged with the mandate of disposing of all public companies - to its utter astonishment, only learned about the NHCC deal from the press on June 17, when it was first reported. ...Established in 1964 by the Obote I govt, the NHCC aims at increasing the number of modern house owners in Uganda and rehabilitating the housing industry. Since its establishment, it has erected 1,700 executive flats, bungalows and smaller units in the major estates of Bugolobi, Naalya, Luboowa, Bukoto, Buganda Road and others. It owns 50 percent of the Housing Finance Company of Uganda and also has shares in Shelter Afrique, a Pan African Development Bank in Kenya. http://www.monitor.co.ug/bizfin/bf07121.php ___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/
Re: [Ugnet] It is a Hima Dynasty
Is this the new strategy to whitewash themselves from the misdeeds of Mu7? Since when did Turyamureeba know that this Mu7 dynasty is actually a Hima and not Nkore dynasty? Ugandans we should not be deceived.We all too well remember the history of recycling murderers and human rights abusers in our short political history whenever a Government falls.This is the shortcut most murderers,thieves and brutes have used to join the next bandwagon. Recently a one Mustapha Ramadhan even had the audacity to write on the monitor that,they advised the late Idi Amin to take-over government because,the then Ugandan government was going to kill all of them! Now because the system founded on lies and deception has become supersaturated with their lies and lies have started precipitating,we read to the effect that where ever Mu7 goes there is always bloodshed.This is what we have been telling these goons and bums for the 32 donkey years since most of them started associating with Mu7 but then the motto was:"Twariire".Now that there is justenough crumbsto keep within the inner family,all of a sudden,the truth cannot be suppressed any longer!. What a good judge Time has turned out to be! Sooner or later even those skulls in Luwero will start talking about who actually killed them. As for Hima/Nkore dynasty many of the pretenders to the clan have indeed been shortchanged! It is too little too late for the Turyamureebas of this world to change their stripes.Remain true to your stripes and you will be able to take a leaf from human history. Kipenji.Matek Opoko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is a Hima dynasty I want to agree with the author of the article, Museveni's Dynasty Not Welcome Here (Daily Monitor, June 30). However, I want to correct the erroneous belief by the same author that the dynasty Museveni is bent on creating is a Nyankole dynasty. It is not. It is a Hima dynasty. I know many people outside what used to be called Ankole, before it was fragmented into different districts, cannot tell the difference between Bahima and Bairu (a misnomer surely!) Culturally, physically, socially, in other words, ethnically, Movement propaganda notwithstanding, the two groups of people are very different and do not interact socially except for appearances' sake because the Bairu are superior numerically and the Movement gurus want people to believe that they do not segregate their fellow countrymen. Just look at the top commanders in the army or key ministers and all the top managers in the country. It is therefore important that Ugandans and the world at large be aware of this. D. Turyamureeba-Mwene Byomumparo,Mbarara. __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___Ugandanet mailing listUgandanet@kym.nethttp://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet% UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/
[Ugnet] Fwd: [UNAANET] HON MBABAZI,S RESPONSE .
-. Bush Opposed to Third Term: Response by Hon. Amama Mbabazi Introduction In the front page headline, Bush opposed to third term for Museveni, the Sunday Monitor newspaper of July 10, 2005 the US ambassador to Uganda, Mr. Jimmy Kolker, is reported to have made the following points: President Bush advised President Museveni to retire from politics in 2006 The Uganda Parliament was manipulated into voting for the Constitutional Amendment Bill It is odd for a 9 year old constitution without allowing it to run, and on more than 100 articles some of which had not been tested, to be amended. The US Constitution was enacted in 1789 and only 27 articles have been amended. It is true that in the White House meeting between the two Presidents, which I had the honour and privilege to attend, President Bush asked President Museveni about the proposed constitutional amendment in Uganda on term limits and if the latter was preparing to retire at the end of his second term of office. He stated that the two term limit had worked well for the US. He raised the matter by way of inquiry. President Museveni in his response said that the Ugandan leadership was studying the issue and would come up with a position when ready. President Bush did not enunciate a US policy that Uganda should not consider amending her constitution or that, if it is amended, President Museveni should not consider offering himself for re-election. Indeed in the numerous interactions I have had with US Administration officials I have been told repeatedly that the US Administration has no problem wi th Uganda amending her constitution if it is done legally and transparently. Uganda Government policy on term limitation However, even if indeed the US government policy was that they were opposed to removal of term limits from our constitution, clearly this is a matter for Ugandans to decide for themselves. We can listen and even adopt foreign friendly advice, but clearly the decisions are for Ugandans to make. Uganda is currently undergoing constitutional review. The Constitutional Review Commission (CRC) proposed a comprehensive constitutional change in December 2003. The Government then made proposals to Parliament in September 2004 including the introduction of full multiparty political system and the lifting of term limits among other things. Taking into account that the National Resistance Movement struggle in Uganda was to restore the sovereignty of the population in decision making which principle was captured by the 1995 Constitution in article ONE which provides that ?all power belongs to the people who shall exercise their sovereignty in accordance with [the] Constitution? and who ?shall express their will and consent on who shall govern them and how they should be governed, through regular, free and fair elections of their representatives or through referenda?, the National Conference of the Movement passed, among others, a resolution in March 2003 to open up political space to allow people to organise themselves to compete for political power as they wished and to remove presidential term limits. The Bills incorporating the proposed amendments are now before Parliament undergoing consideration and decision making in accordance with the procedure laid down in the Constitution. Constitutional review is not the invention of Uganda. In the US itself, as the ambassador correctly observes, there have been amendments of their constitution. Whereas it is true that there have been 27 amendments (and not amendment of only 27 articles as the report in the Monitor suggests, after all there are only 7 original articles of that constitution), over 10,000 Constitutional amendments have been introduced in Congress since 1789; in a typical Congressional year in the last several decades, between 100 and 200 are offered. In fact the first ten amendments of the US Constitution, The Bill of Rights, were all adopted within a few years of the ratification of the Constitution. The amendments were proposed by Congress as part of a block of twelve in September 1789. By December 1791 a sufficient number of states had ratified ten of the twelve proposals, and the Bill of Rights became part of the Constitution only 2 years after promulgation! What is ?odd? about Uganda amending her constitution 9 years after its promulgation?! There are currently some amendments which have entered mainstream political debate in the US Congress. These include the proposed Federal Marriage Amendment, the Flag-Burning Amendment, etc. So if it has been ok for this to happen in the US, why should it be taboo for Uganda to do? The Parliament of Uganda is just doing what the Constitution of Uganda enjoins them to do ? if it is so desirable, to amend the constitution in accordance with the procedure the constitution itself lays out. The suggestion that members of parliament have been influenced by stick and carrot tactics is an unacceptable assault on the integrity,
[Ugnet] Invitation to the Opposition Mobilization Picnic on Saturday, July 16, 2005 in California
It is with great disappointment and consternation that we have learned that the NRM-0 will be in our midst over the coming weekend, at the machinations of one Abbey Walusimbi, a. k. a. Ntege Kigozi. TheMovement yellow bus, which has earned its infamy as a gross-polluter, with birago for windows, ssanja for a windscreen, broken headlights and all, was last seen in Boston limping sputtering with frequent backfiring towards California on three flat tires with a blind driver at the wheel, a few weeks ago. Therefore, we, the members of the Ugandan community in the Greater Los Angeles Area have resolved that it would be dereliction of duty, and that we would be remiss to allow the NRM-0 to pollute our environs unchallenged. In response and direct competition, we the people are organizing a mamothall-encompassing umbrella Opposition Mobilization Picnic for this Saturday, July 16, 2005 in North Hollywood, to be followed by a dance. The picnic will be held in the "Park behind Sears", just off Victory (E) from 2:00PM until after dusk. The Park is formally known as the Valley Plaza Recreation Center. DIRECTIONS: From HWY 170, take Victory East, Left on Laurel Canyon Blvd - heading North, Left on Hamlin - heading West, park anywhere on St. Claire Avenue. We are inviting ALL members of our community -- and their families friends -- who are opposed to NRM's stranglehold on Uganda's politics -- REGARDLESS of party affiliation to come join us in this solidarity event. Individuals with undeclared or undecided party affiliations are also welcome to attend this event. Members of the NRM who are disgusted and frustrated with current trend in their party are invited too. Folks from neighboring states and countries are welcome to attend. Games, including a 100-yard dash, tennis, tug-of-war, and various ball games will be available. We have assembled a posse of some of the best Grill Maestros in S. California to tickle your palates with mouth-watering BBQ meats. We will have the best BBQ meat outside of Texas! You are encouraged to bring whatever you want to drink and/or eat or play with, but the basics will be provided. The dance will start at 9:00PM and will continue until the wee hours of the morning. It will be at: Passage to India Restaurant, 14062 Burbank Sherman Oaks, CA 91401 (i.e. junction of Hazeltine Burbank in "Van Nuys"). A cash bar will be open, as we dance tothe best Ugandanmusicoutside of Uganda, in the company of a bevy of the most gorgeous women in California. Ladies, dont miss this opportunity to come strut you stuff, the guys are ready to be wowed! Since we do not have unlimited resources and since, unlike NRM-0, we are not government sponsored, and since there is no free lunch in this country, we are appealing to individual members of our community to put their money where their hearts are, i.e. financial assistance at whatever level they feel comfortable with to defray the costs of the planned events. No amount is too little or insignificant, be it $1, $5, $10, $20, $50, $100, etc. At this time, representatives of DP FDC have agreed to co-sponsor the event in conjunction with individuals of undeclared party affiliations. Come One, Come All! Your company shall honor us, and you will be the guest of honor and star of the occasion. We shall use the picnic to update you about the upcoming UNAA Convention in Minnesota. Please distribute this announcement everywhere. Pollution Control Officers: Musa Bagenda KY: 818-781-8967 Damiano Kigoye DP: 818-430-8016 Baker Mayambala FDC: 323-252-7611 Ochan Otim - member U.C.O.C.: 626-437-3430 James Ssemakula - CP: 562-437-2582, [EMAIL PROTECTED] __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/
[Ugnet] `Dar should quit EAC over Museveni bid`
`Dar should quit EAC over Museveni bid`2005-07-02 08:10:17 ByJuma Thomas, Dodoma Tanzania should withdraw from the East African Community (EAC) to protect its credibility after Ugandan parliament passed a Bill giving President Yoweri Museveni the green-light to vie for the third term when his current mandate expires next year, an MP said yesterday. Philemon Ndesamburo (Moshi Urban, Chadema) said Tanzania should not co-operate with an undemocratic country that wants to have a ``president for life``. ``We are respected the world over as a democratic country that upholds the principles of democracy and good governance. We should protect this honour at all costs even if it means quitting EAC,`` he said. Ndesamburo made the call in his contribution to the 2005/2006 budget estimates for the Office of the President (Civil Service Management). He said Tanzania would lose its credibility if it co-operated with undemocratic and dictatoria l governments. EAC is made up of Kenya, Tanzania and Uganda. Uganda parliament passed a Bill on Tuesday to amend the constitution to repeal presidential term limits, a move observers think was engineered by President Museveni himself through his proxies in the ruling Movement. The Bill contains 98 proposed amendments, including one to do away with the current two five-year terms limit. Members of the East African Legislative Assembly have blamed Uganda parliament for passing the amendments, saying that it was against the spirit of EAC to uphold good governance and democracy. Uganda has since independence in 1962 never witnessed a peaceful change of guard through elections. President Museveni came to power in 1986 via a guerrilla war. Once in power, he banned political parties under the no-party political system he has used to govern the country. Ndesamburo also accused the Tanzania government of being obstinate after refusing to implement recommendations by the Commission for Human Rights and Good Governance on Nyamuma villagers in Mara region. He said Attorney General Andrew Chenge had humiliated the commission`s chairman, Justice Robert Kisanga, by ignoring his findings and recommendations on violation of human-rights during the eviction of Nyamuma villagers. The commission had recommended that the government compensate the villagers for the losses they incurred when its agents forcefully removed them from the village and their houses set on fire by government functionaries. The commission also recommended that the villagers be resettled in the former area. The government, however, rejected the recommendations saying that, there was no travesty of justice during the eviction. The villagers have filed a case in the High Court seeking the enforcement of the commission`s recommendations. Ndesamburo also attacked the ruling CCM`s publicity secretary Omar Mapuri on his recent utterances that the Registrar of Political Parties, John Tendwa, was ``a mere clerk``. He said such a statement was too demeaning for a respected person like Tendwa. Tendwa had at one time advised CCM to stop parading its presidential candidate at public rallies before the National Electoral Commission fixed dates for the campaigns. Tendwa`s caution attracted flak from CCM bigwigs who told him to put up or shut up. But Mapuri, who is also Minister for Home Affairs, faulted him, saying he was overstepping his mandate as registrar of political parties. Ndesamburo said that, such utterances from a senior party and government official did not demonstrate a semblance of good governance. Ali Said Salim (Ziwani-CUF) said 60,000/- paid to civil servants as minimum wage ``was a joke`` because the money is too little. He said the government should increase minimum wage to at least 120,000/-. SOURCE: Guardian www.ipp.co.tz/ipp/guardian/2005/07/02/43483.html Comment on this article Yahoo! Mail for Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone.___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/
[Ugnet] JUST BEFORE THE LONDON BLAST (Read the achives)
Londoners Suspicious Of Station Closures Before Blasts Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet | July 12 2005 Internet forums are not the benchmark of absolute truth and unlike the government, who eagerly rush to give credibility to an 'Al-Qaeda' statement as soon as a Bush-linked Internet company can post it, we do not offer this as concrete proof of anything. However, it is interesting nonetheless. Several different people on the forum of the London Evening Standard website are reporting their own perculiar experiences on the day of the bombing. One member writes, Hi everyone, Did anyone travelling in BEFORE the attacks began yesterday notice anything peculiar on their tube journey? I catch the Piccadilly line at 7.15am each morning from Southgate to reach my work in Kensington by 8.00. Normally, all seats are taken by Finsbury Park and carriages are packed by Kings Cross. However, yesterday my tube journey was eerily quiet. For the first time ever there were spare seats in my carriage all the way through zone 1. It was noticeable enough for me to wonder what on earth was going on. This was at 7.45 - over an hour before attacks began. I've also heard people saying that the Northern Line was being shut down at the same time. Is there something that we're not being told? Another member responds, yes!! I was due to pick a work collegue up from balham at 7:15am, but when i got there i was greeted with Tube emergency vans, police and and hoards of people being turned away from a closed station. All very strange they must have known something was going to happan, the surely had a tip off. As i drove along the road, (which also follows the tubes) they were all shut and hundreds of people were queing for buses. when i reached Oval, which was open there were two armed policemen in a road next to the station, which for a quiet area like that is extremly rare. the northen line was shut from morden to stockwell. They blatently knew something was going down, they just got it wrong and are hoping no one mentions anything. When combined with the bomb scares in different major cities days before the bombing, the Israeli warnings and the beyond a coincidence exercises the day of the attack, these accounts shed more light on the true nature of the attack. Related: London Bombing Archive The Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" ___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/
[Ugnet] WELCOME TO ZIONISED BRITAIN
Welcome To Zionised BritainBy Gilad Atzmon7-12-5 "Let's see how the Israelis cope with the threat of terror", said the BBC presenter in a London studio. Seemingly, we are now supposed to be learning from the experience of the Israelis. Ask yourselves why. Simply because we are now fully Zionised, we are fighting the Zionist wars and we pay the heaviest price for it. A second later we are watching a news item from Jerusalem, the local BBC correspondent is interviewing three American settlers. They are all overwhelmingly confident. They are telling us that thanks to security officers located now at every bus stop in town, Jerusalem hasn't experienced a suicide attack for over 18 months. Let me tell you, the reality is somewhat different. The Palestinians are now locked behind separation walls, within enclaves, Bantustans and concentration camps. I do hope that you all realise that if we give Tony Blair enough time this will be the reality of Birmingham, Bradford or any other mixed city in the UK. Racial hatred is the biggest danger for a multi-ethnic society and we are such a society. But then, it isn't that surprising that the BBC suggests that we may have to learn from the Israelis. Blair's ties with Zionism are now more than established. At the time, I remember some reports from Israel that MI6 and the CIA were there amongst the IDF forces who flattened Jenin Refugee Camp, they were looking for Palestinian 'links with al Qaeda'. There are some serious reports that Israeli officers were advising the American and British armies in Basra and Fallujah, and even if this isn't true, we can clearly see that the invasion armies in Iraq are applying the various IDF tactics. The UK (following the USA) is operating as a Zionist mission force. It fights the last pockets of Arab resistance. Let's face it, we were pooled into this Zionist led 'cultural clash'. In the name of the 'Judeo Christian' myth, we are fighting the Muslim world. We are daily engaged in the destruction of Iraqi lives and as it seems, this clash is about to expand. We all agree that Israel is operating as a Colonialist state motivated by racial supremacist views. But then, isn't the case of Blair's Britain very similar? If Tony Blair isn't a white supremacist how dare he suggesting that Democracy is the right way forward for the Muslim world. How come he knows better than the Muslims what is good for them? When you come to determine other people's lives you must believe that you know better. You must assume that you are better. Last week, a very small cell of cold-blooded murderous terrorists has managed to jeopardise the false image of Western civilised brethren. Their message is clear: it isn't about African poverty. It is rather about Zionised Anglo-American domination in the Middle East, it is about the support for Israel. It is about us electing with popular vote a war criminal, we are the ones who do not respect other people's lives. And we pay the price for it. The message of the terrorists is clear: You kill us, we kill you. You bomb our towns, we bomb yours. As it seems, our image of reality is shaped by TV operators and media lords. Reality in itself is delivered as a self referential fictional theme. On the day of the attack I was sitting frozen in front of my TV screen. It was very hard to learn what was really going on. As usual we saw the very same pictures for the next 24 hrs. Although the attack took place at 9 AM, at 5 PM they were still talking about 2 fatalities. We saw the emergency services praising themselves. Everything was wonderfully under control except the miserable commuters who were sentenced to death by Tony Blair. They were down there in Russell Square tube station and as far as I am aware, they are still there. The emergency services cannot get there. Ladies and gentlemen, the Piccadilly line is a death trap. But wasn't it a death trap before the attack? Wasn't it a death trap before Blair voluntarily joined the 'War against Terror'? Mr Tony Blair, next time, before you take your country into a war you must find an alternative solution to your death traps at home. Let me tell you, if you can't find an alternative just forget about starting wars. And yet, hardly anyone in the UK opens his mouth. We are facing a real crisis here. We do not
[Ugnet] Some Quotes to Ponder about
Ambition drove many men to become false; to have one thought locked in the breast, another ready on the tongue: Sallust (86 BC - 34 BC), The War with Catiline =The history of our race, and each individual's experience, are sown thick with evidence that a truth is not hard to kill and that a lie told well is immortal: Mark Twain (1835 - 1910), Advice to Youth =False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the soul with evil: Plato, Dialogues, Phaedo - Greek author philosopher in Athens (427 BC - 347 BC) =A lie told often enough becomes the truth: Lenin (1870 - 1924) Does this fit in with Mu7's Luwero maccabre?=== Does your mail provider give you access to messages sent to other POP email accounts, like your work account? Get Yahoo! Mail___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/
Re: [Ugnet] Fwd: [UNAANET] HON MBABAZI,S RESPONSE .
Mbabazi, like you yourself Abayombo, is trying to protect his job, but soon that will be no more, EXILE kids. Even if you guys have padded your bank accounts, we will get to them! y[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -. Bush Opposed to Third Term: Response by Hon. Amama Mbabazi Introduction In the front page headline, Bush opposed to third term for Museveni, the Sunday Monitor newspaper of July 10, 2005 the US ambassador to Uganda, Mr. Jimmy Kolker, is reported to have made the following points: President Bush advised President Museveni to retire from politics in 2006 The Uganda Parliament was manipulated into voting for the Constitutional Amendment Bill It is odd for a 9 year old constitution without allowing it to run, and on more than 100 articles some of which had not been tested, to be amended. The US Constitution was enacted in 1789 and only 27 articles have been amended. It is true that in the White House meeting between the two Presidents, which I had the honour and privilege to attend, President Bush asked President Museveni about the proposed constitutional amendment in Uganda on term limits and if the latter was preparing to retire at the end of his second term of office. He stated that the two term limit had worked well for the US. He raised the matter by way of inquiry. President Museveni in his response said that the Ugandan leadership was studying the issue and would come up with a position when ready. President Bush did not enunciate a US policy that Uganda should not consider amending her constitution or that, if it is amended, President Museveni should not consider offering himself for re-election. Indeed in the numerous interactions I have had with US Administration officials I have been told repeatedly that the US Administration has no problem wi th Uganda amending her constitution if it is done legally and transparently. Uganda Government policy on term limitation However, even if indeed the US government policy was that they were opposed to removal of term limits from our constitution, clearly this is a matter for Ugandans to decide for themselves. We can listen and even adopt foreign friendly advice, but clearly the decisions are for Ugandans to make. Uganda is currently undergoing constitutional review. The Constitutional Review Commission (CRC) proposed a comprehensive constitutional change in December 2003. The Government then made proposals to Parliament in September 2004 including the introduction of full multiparty political system and the lifting of term limits among other things. Taking into account that the National Resistance Movement struggle in Uganda was to restore the sovereignty of the population in decision making which principle was captured by the 1995 Constitution in article ONE which provides that ?all power belongs to the people who shall exercise their sovereignty in accordance with [the] Constitution? and who ?shall express their will and consent on who shall govern them and how they should be governed, through regular, free and fair elections of their representatives or through referenda?, the National Conference of the Movement passed, among others, a resolution in March 2003 to open up political space to allow people to organise themselves to compete for political power as they wished and to remove presidential term limits. The Bills incorporating the proposed amendments are now before Parliament undergoing consideration and decision making in accordance with the procedure laid down in the Constitution. Constitutional review is not the invention of Uganda. In the US itself, as the ambassador correctly observes, there have been amendments of their constitution. Whereas it is true that there have been 27 amendments (and not amendment of only 27 articles as the report in the Monitor suggests, after all there are only 7 original articles of that constitution), over 10,000 Constitutional amendments have been introduced in Congress since 1789; in a typical Congressional year in the last several decades, between 100 and 200 are offered. In fact the first ten amendments of the US Constitution, The Bill of Rights, were all adopted within a few years of the ratification of the Constitution. The amendments were proposed by Congress as part of a block of twelve in September 1789. By December 1791 a sufficient number of states had ratified ten of the twelve proposals, and the Bill of Rights became part of the Constitution only 2 years after promulgation! What is ?odd? about Uganda amending her constitution 9 years after its promulgation?! There are currently some amendments which have entered mainstream political debate in the US Congress. These include the proposed Federal Marriage Amendment, the Flag-Burning Amendment, etc. So if it has been ok for this to happen in the US, why should it be taboo for Uganda to do? The Parliament of Uganda is just doing what the Constitution of Uganda enjoins them to do ? if it is so desirable, to amend the
[Ugnet] Re: [Ugandacom] KASANGWAWO THIS OBOTE IS REALLY BAD
Joseph They are blaming the humidity on Obote two. Em Toronto The Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" - Original Message - From: joseph odwe To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 9:18 PM Subject: RE: [Ugandacom] KASANGWAWO THIS OBOTE IS REALLY BAD EM You have always been very wrong in your articulation that this regime is the most venormious to Baganda than most Buganda dare admait. Hear we go. I wonder what the "ebyafe jubilators" have to say about this. I will wait for . to say something. If not they should wallow queitly in shame. I am helping them out at point by not naming names yet but they know themselves. jOFrom: "Edward Mulindwa" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],ugandanet@kym.netSubject: [Ugandacom] KASANGWAWO THIS OBOTE IS REALLY BADDate: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 12:57:02 -0400 Mengo angry at govt over Kabaka's land ROBERT MWANJE KAMPALA MENGO is angry at the central government over alleged allocation of tracts of the Kabaka's land in Kiboga to Rwandese refugees. The land, part of the famous 9,000 square miles, has also been allocated to senior UPDF officers, district councillors and officials. Kalangala RDC Katenda Luutu (formerly posted to Kiboga) confirms that Rwandese refugees have been allocated part of the Kabaka's land in Kiboga. "I witnessed this when I was serving as RDC in Kiboga. These people were ferried in buses and trucks in the night, I tried to fight it by arresting them but they had stronger forces behind," Luutu said recently. However, the district chairperson, Mr Siraje Kizito Nkugwa, distanced himself from accusations that he backed the move. He said: "I was not even around when the district council passed that resolution." Further information filtering out of Kiboga cites six current and retired officers who got part of the said land. They include: Lt. Gen. Elly Tumwine, Col. Paddy Kashumba, Col. Kizza Besigye, Col. Sam Kawagga, Col. Livingstone Kateregga. Officials in Kiboga District have also reportedly allocated themselves part of the said land. Other sources told Sunday Monitor that Kiboga district councillors and administration officials recently passed a resolution to sell more of the said land to interested developers. Buganda kingdom deputy Premier Kaaya Kavuma said Kiboga land belongs to the Kabaka but government decided to leave it under the custody of the district. "What is happening in Kiboga justifies our dissatisfaction. We have remained unhappy because that land has not yet been returned to us," he said, adding that Mengo would take legal action against the illegal tenants in Kiboga. The kingdom's Minister for Cabinet Affairs, Youth and Information, Mr Peter Mayiga, told Sunday Monitor that Mengo is unhappy that the Buganda Land Board lacks powers over the said 9,000 square miles. "Government instead gave the land to districts under the district land boards which have not done enough to protect it" he said. Mayiga said the kingdom was still studying the situation and a collective response would be announced soon. "Land is not like a fruit, which can be carried away," he said. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Ugandacom" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/
[Ugnet] Brutus resident returns from Africa work
Brutus resident returns from Africa work BY KIRSTEN FREDRICKSON NEWS-REVIEW STAFF WRITERMonday, July 11, 2005 3:12 PM EDT Nathan Bauer, a Brutus resident and student at Grand Valley State University, finds himself surrounded by African children. During his studies in Uganda, Bauer became impassioned to help the people, many whom endured disease, malnutrition and attacks by rebel and government soldiers. BRUTUS - Nathan Bauer may have left Africa, but Africa has not left him.After studying for several months in Uganda, the 22-year-old Brutus resident and Grand Valley State University student has helped to launch the Uganda Conflict Action Network.Now working with the Washington-based Africa Faith and Justice Network, Bauer is one of 25 committed volunteers raising awareness about the struggles those in Uganda face and to help end the 19-year-old war in Northern Uganda. It's a task that Bauer, the son of Corrine and Donald Bauer, said can be daunting. But after what he's witnessed, it's one he believes is worth it."We now have the opportunity to press for action which could contribute to ending this war," said Bauer, a Pellston High School graduate. "Together, we can rise up and demand global governance that not only acknowledges the most poor and vulnerable of our world, but aggressively works to end their suffering."Studyi ng global development and social progress at Grand Valley State University, Bauer said although his family was nervous at first, he knew he wanted to study in East Africa.Along with the 15 other students in his program, Bauer stayed with a host family in Kampala, the capital of Uganda. At first he said he had no idea how to function in the African city. Simply walking down the street was a completely new experience. "I had no idea of what to expect. I had a lot of misconceptions," he admitted. "But it's like any other city.""The pace of life is different. There's no big rush to get a million things done. You have to slow your pace down," Bauer recalled. "It took a few weeks to get acquainted (with the culture)."While studying both the language and the history of the country in the classroom, Bauer said it was the opportunities he had to go into the rural settings that really intrigued him."We were living in a mud and grass hut. We were killing our own chickens for dinner," he recalled. It was also those trips that really told the story of Africa."The sense of community there was amazing. Everyone was helping everyone," Bauer said.Fascinated by his new surroundings, it was during the second half of his studies that Bauer became impassioned by what he saw. It was during this part of his journey that he chose to venture outside of the program's designated rural trips, visiting Northern Uganda and the camps where people are forced to live in poverty."The first time we went to a camp it was really hard. They're crowded into these places with no water and no place to dispose of their waste," Bauer said.It was in these places where people daily faced imprisonment or being injured or killed by the rebel Lord's Resistance Army. Bauer said he also witnessed government soldiers stealing water from the camps and taking women away from their husbands and families. Children were sometimes stolen during the night, only to be used as soldiers in the war.Bauer said he often had to travel into these areas with an armed guard. And he and fellow students found themselves questioned by government soldiers more than once."When I rode into Coopee Trading Center Camp, an internally displaced person's camp in northern Uganda, on the back of a motorcycle," Bauer wrote in a journal entry, "I was overwhelmed by the smell of open defecation. I introduced myself at the government soldier post, and explained I was there to examine the water and sanitation situation. The soldier I was speaking to glared into my eyes and with a sharp hint of animosity told me I had 30 minutes. I had been in this situation before, and I knew that if I disobeyed his orders, I would not be leaving the camp on the motorcycle I had come in on."I quickly went to work gathering camp officials, conducting interviews and assessing the camp conditions as quickly as possible. As I walked swiftly through the maze of g rass and mud houses a man stopped me, looked square in my eyes and said, 'You're here to help us. You are welcome. We can't thank you enough; no one comes to help us any more.' We gripped each other's hands in mutual silence and I wanted the ground to swallow me, I was so humiliated. I knew I was not there to do much else than assess the situation. I knew that I would be leaving for the United States soon. I would be going back to a country where virtually no one understands the magnitude of human suffering I was surrounded by in every direction," he wrote.Bauer said the people he did speak with understand the government doesn't care about them, and feel the military response to the rebels isn't
[Ugnet] We Don't Fear War - Otafiire
We Don't Fear War - Otafiire Email This Page Print This Page VisitThePublisher'sSite The Monitor (Kampala) July 12, 2005 Posted to the web July 12, 2005 Sam AmanyireBushenyi MINISTER of Lands, Water and Environment Maj. Gen. Kahinda Otafiire has warned the opposition that the Movement does not fear going to war. "If we can fight those who have not provoked us, then what about those who have provoked us?" Otafiire asked. He was on Sunday speaking at Ruhinda SS where he was the chief guest at cerebrations to mark Heroes Day and Environment Day. He said he would not prefer war, but if that is what the opposition wants they will draw their guns. "We want to be judged by ballots and not bullets. But if that is what they want, Iam warning them that we know both ways," Otafiire said. He said President Yoweri Museveni will retain power if people want him "then we shall deal with those who do not want him to be President.' He was apparently responding to threats made the previous day by former army commander Maj. Gen. Mugisha Muntu at the launch of the FDC office in Ishaka town, Bushenyi. Muntu had said if the Forum for Democratic Change, were pushed against the wall, they would "force their way through". MP Jack Sabiiti had on the same day sounded similar threats that FDC has many members with military training and if Museveni became a rogue, they would be worse rogues. Otafiire described people who defected from the Movement as failures. "If you have problems in your house, do you burn it or stay in and solve them? There is no family that has no misunderstandings and running away is a sign of failure," he said. Relevant Links East Africa Legal and Judicial Affairs Uganda Conflict, Peace and Security He attacked Presidential Adviser Maj. Kakooza Mutale for taking a parallel line against the mainstream Movement by opposing the return to multiparty politics. "Mutale is frying grasshoppers together with cockroaches and is scooping clean water with the mud," Otafiire said.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/
