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okello wrote: Don't you think other Ugandans also paid taxes that contributed significantly in building these cities now you called Buganda's capital city, Kampala and her Entebbe city.? Well, don't you think Baganda also paid taxes that contributed significantly in building towns like Mbale, Gulu, Lira, Kabale, et cetera ? Kasangwawo From: okello [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 09:37:23 -0500 (EST) Ever since Buganda's capital city, Kampala was made Uganda's, the avoidance is impossible to happen. If anyone thought that Buganda would break the cord with the gov'ts in power, that is fantasia. Unless, of course if the whole of Uganda offers another city to serve as the capital city of Uganda to separate and avoid these interactions between Buganda and gov'ts in power. Until then, there is nothing anyone can do about this. Obote made these interactions only to come out burned! Poor, stupid, fellow! Amin did the same, and see the outcome. Okello's Junta militia did the same, Museveni swept into the interactions and established himself a dictator. Every overthrow or takeover that has happened in Uganda is sealed by capturing Buganda's capital city, Kampala and her Entebbe city. Rehema Mukooza, Don't you think other Ugandans also paid taxes that contributed significantly in building these cities now you called Buganda's capital city, Kampala and her Entebbe city.? BTW, I thought you were a Munyoro? I guess I was wrong. Rehema Mukooza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oracha: In your ignorance, stupidity, childish-nature, not all people on Ugandanet are non-Baganda! Now, I want to know how I don't know what I'm doing?? I do not see anything wrong with talking about Buganda/Kabaka, a part of Uganda and discussing its cultural values and politics. Everyone here talks about other regions, why should I not talk about Buganda/Kabaka?? I'll be damned to ignore the mother soil and her Kabaka. Again: What is it that I don't know what I'm doing?? Just point out things in my previous email which I don't know what I'm doing or talking about. Obote tried to buy Ankole, Bunyoro, Tooro, and Busoga monarchies with money and all these monarchies agreed to get the cash. Buganda refused this silly buying, her Kabaka was exiled, and the seasonal leader (Obote) tried to appoint a prince to take over. Buganda was (is) not stupid as the temporaly dictator thought it would be (is). Boote's season is no more! That's what we call the old rug whose time is outdated. No matter how much folks here will not agree with me, I'll continue to point it out to you that the Kabakaship / Buganda are survivors. A new regime comes around, and the rules of survival kick in. So, whoever thinks that Museveni is buying the Kabaka is indeed wrong! The Kabakaship is to continue after the death of Museveni. Buganda can not avoid interactions with the central gov't or any president in power. By the way, interactions do not mean buying. Make that clear in your thinking. Ever since Buganda's capital city, Kampala was made Uganda's, the avoidance is impossible to happen. If anyone thought that Buganda would break the cord with the gov'ts in power, that is fantasia. Unless, of course if the whole of Uganda offers another city to serve as the capital city of Uganda to separate and avoid these interactions between Buganda and gov'ts in power. Until then, there is nothing anyone can do about this. Obote made these interactions only to come out burned! Poor, stupid, fellow! Amin did the same, and see the outcome. Okello's Junta militia did the same, Museveni swept into the interactions and established himself a dictator. Every overthrow or takeover that has happened in Uganda is sealed by capturing Buganda's capital city, Kampala and her Entebbe city. With all this nonsense that power hungry dictators (past, present, future) have done, you mean to tell me that not all readers on Ugandanet are not interested in Buganda?? This is how stupid and childish you can get! I do not care if not all members of ugandanet are Baganda, the truth is that non-Baganda have interests in Buganda at least for as long as it hosts the capital city. I personally would want to know which Ugandan does not have an interest in Buganda. The LRA does have one. Obote, Amin, Okello, Mu7, etc had (have) one. And this silly business of people talking about Federo becoming Bugandanized is as stupid and unfocused as they get. If someone wants to take Buganda out of the limelight, he/she will have to move the capital city to some other part of Uganda, and leave Buganda(Kampala) alone. To show you how stupid and childish Ugandans have become. Buganda (Kampala) was declared as a none part of Buganda, it was declared part of Uganda instead. One wonders that is Buganda not Uganda?? All I can
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J. Ssenyange, I do respect the institution of the Kabaka of Buganda, and I do hope that one day real power is returned to it. But, dont expect to get it back from dictator Museveni. y From: "ssenya nyange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives .\ yaobang Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 21:33:09 -0500 MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug
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Of what use is this information to you ? From: Edward Mulindwa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote \ Yaobang @ Mulindwa Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 01:14:27 -0500 Which brings me to the next question, who has more support in Buganda today, Kabaka Mutebi or President Museveni? Em The Mulindwas Communication Group With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy Groupe de communication Mulindwas avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie - Original Message - From: ssenya nyange [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 9:55 PM Subject: Re: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote \ Yaobang @ Mulindwa Yaobang, Do you think the majority of Baganda ( including me ) want Kabaka Mutebi to be invited ( actually SUMMONING)?. You cannot summon a Kabaka as per tradition. Do you know why the late Ben Kiwanuka was hated by Baganda? Its because while he was a prime Minister, he summoned or invited Kabaka to meet him ( Ben) at his residence or office. Ben was a Muganda who knew it. Because Kabaka does not have powers, he is held at runsom \ gun point by Mu7. You know what happened to Dr. Kayiira, DP's Ssekweyama etc. So long as Kabaka is in Uganda with no powers, he can be summoned at any time by the ruling president. This is what we want to reverse. This is against our culture. He's is the head of all Ganda clan leaders ( Ssabataka) no matter what. Rediculing him tantamount to rediculing all the Baganda who belong to the 52 clans.Thats why want a share of political powers, NOT deligated cultural powers. Watch with your eyes, we shall be there. Ssenyange --- From: Y Yaobang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 01:32:34 + _ STOP MORE SPAM with the MSN Premium and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug
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y, well, we shall also not forget. In fact, if these denials of killing us continue, we may not even forgive. Kasangwawo From: Y Yaobang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives ... Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 01:40:39 + _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ---BeginMessage--- J. Ssenyange, From what I'm told, you are a very smart man. Why do you spew shit like this, in support of Museveni? Museveni will die, why do you want to ruin your future with such statements?We'll forgive, but we will never forget! yFrom: "ssenya nyange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 17:15:40 -0500 Mulindwa, Just continue giving your vote to your man OBOTE. He will continue ruling you even in exile, by sustaining you with frequent hand outs. FORGET ABOUT OBOTE RULING BUGANDA\ UGANDA AGAIN. J. Ssenyange From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 09:41:40 -0500 Buganda can never move ahead again until when Uganda gets a nationalistic president as Obote, who develops all Uganda areas equally. Does Uganda have a chance to get such a leader again today? No not on a nation which has Ssebagala as the best out there to look at. The developments in Buganda including Hospitals, Schools, job creation on and on stopped at the exit of Obote from Uganda politics. One can not help but wonder how Buganda has even failed to clear her own roads of Bulungi Bwansi, a project they would even do by their own hoes. What value is Mengo? Em - Original Message - From: Lisa Toro To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 7:20 AM Subject: Re: [Ugandacom] Re: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Rehema Mukooza . Present me the evidence, that is howsome of you Bagandans conieved with Museveni in Killing you own Kayirra in the name of elections were rigged! you are so blind that you only sport a goat from a far and not see an hayena at your foot !!! . The Baganda peasantry should takes control and su[pport of thier Kingdom and destinyrather than leaving it to some of this opportunists beatting thier seasonal drums to any order of the day and claiming latter they are not part of it. Your are squarely responsible for impossing Museveni and the NRA/M killers on Banganda and Ugandans with all the blood let, take responsiblility. The sooner the kingdom and the peasantry weed out these flees the sooner Buganda and Uganda will move a head. Toro - Original Message - From: Rehema Mukooza To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 4:31 AM Subject: [Ugandacom] Re: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Toro: Some of you including Obote have never always meant well for the future of Uganda.What is the future of Uganda??May I ask? Obote has never worked for the future of democracy in Uganda.He banned political parties and ridged elections.I want you to be sensible enough to acknowledge that.Do not let your imagination run wild! Museveni and his NRA are thugs and murderers, any sensible person knows that.There is nothing new you are informing me about the dictator in charge today! What "future holes" am I digging by speaking the truth about Obote??What actually do you mean by that??Should I take the "future holes" for a future revenge against Buganda and her Kingdom??I personaly, think that this kind of garbage you are blutting out is indeed a product of denial and lack of focus on real issues. If you knew better than you know now, you would find out who is truelly digging the future holes you are talking about.He is none other than the thug, Museveni!He has made enemies out of our neighbors surrounding Uganda and in Uganda.Blame Museveni, do not even start with me, or Buganda and her Kabaka. Now, let me teach you about some things in history and life as in general.The colonialist or imperialists came to Buganda with their big guns and shit.Buganda had no choice but to work with these armed imperialists because they possed a real, dangerous threat to our ancenstors. Survival 101; you've got to work with the enemy whether you like it or not.Buganda was not ready to sacrifice itself to be slaughtered by the colonialists, as they did to Native Americans and Zulus.There is more to life than acting as sacrifices to invaders.This should explain to you why Buganda hosts the largest single tribe/nation in Uganda.Human sacri
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like Uganda sellers etc, but that does not change the fact that Obote murdered people. Once again, Buganda is to play her part. Buganda can not avoid interacting with presidents in power. Buganda's capital is Uganda's capital city. How can they avoid each other?? You can slip into fantasia but I'll not go with you. The colonialists could not avoid interacting with Buganda, the dictators of Uganda can not either. My dear, I want to bring you back to reality. GOD WILL NOT STOP THEM (murderer Mu7). Let us bring back federalism in Uganda and empower regions to make decisions on their security matters. Under this unitary system, the central gov't will continue to declare some northern regions not disaster areas. Yet in a federal system, the Acholi or Lango states can declare their areas, disaster regions and protect themselves. Today, the Arrow/Amuka boys are not paid for their services and they why they lack moral. Under federalism, the states of Acholi and Lango can easily pay the Arrow/Amuka boys because these states can actually collect taxes and boost their security. Lisa, come up with better cases! This business of you wishing on God to come down and make a miracle, yet God gave humans power to decide over their destiny is indeed foolish! Wake up! Support Federalism for All! And let me remind you that Obote killed federalism, we need to start from scratch now. Zakoomu R. Lisa Toro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yaobang and others, How many cows did the Misevenis and NRA take from Dr. Obote's home when they killed his frail father? How many did they takes from Obote's relatives and indeed the whole area plus district!. You will be more stupid to say it is 25 Cows. Infact they are harrassing and intimidating the Obotes brother then shout that they gave 25 blood cows! Those NRM vultures NEVER GET ENOUGH, ONLY GOD WILL STOP THEM. Rehema Mukooza whatever garbage you are talking about, some of us including Obote have always mean well for the future of Ugandans but your are busy digging future holes! But then again Ugandan sellers have always perferred to work with colonialist , imperialist etc etc and once more they have to keep the system going. Toro - Original Message - From: Rehema Mukooza To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 5:50 AM Subject: RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Yaobang, Buying Obote for what?? Obote can not function at his age! He is of no use to any thinking Ugandan who is looking forward to the future. The Kabaka will never be bought; he stays, president after president. Who ever thinks so, is indeed misguided and misinformed, like Obote. You can never ever buy a Kabaka. Obote tried it once, when he offered money to the Ankole, Bunyoro, Tooro, and Busoga monarchies in order to ban them real good, but the Kabaka of Buganda refused and he was exiled. Obote even wanted to chose who among the princes should take over after Kabaka Muteesa was exiled. Wrong decision - Poor, stupid, Obote! My advice to the anti-Kabaka camps is that, the monarchy of Buganda shall exist no matter what. The monarchy has already proved resilient towards blows (Obote, Amin). People, ya'll better use that energy of yours on something else and leave the Kabaka alone. The Kabaka has us regular folks to back him up no matter what. That is how strong an alliagence can be to our King(s), present and future. Some politicians like Obote, Museveni might think that they are buying the Kabaka, but in reality they are to move out and our Prince (Kabaka) is to stay in. A monarchy is a monarchy, unlike seasonal political leadership i.e Obote, Mu7. Mr. Yaobang, come up with a better example of folks being 'bought' by cows or money. I don't know why you people don't understand that Buganda and her Kabakaship are inseparatable. Buying something that will never go away, that has always existed is a sick example of how some Ugandans will never get it. Zakoomu R. Y Yaobang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: J Ssemakula, Unlike your Kabaka, Obote cannot be bought with 25 cows, or any other bribe! y From: J Ssemakula Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 01:59:09 + -- Help STOP spam with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 From: J Ssemakula To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 01:59:09 +
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Mulindwa, By simple logic, If I know that you want to come ( visit) to my home to beg, I WILL BE VERY STUPID TO SEND YOU LIMOS AND HELICOPTORS TO TRANSPORT YOU TO MY HOME AND BACK. In other words, It would be very stupid of Mu7 to transport Kabaka by presidential helicoptors to Rwakitura if the purpose of the visit is known to be begging. Lastly, who requests for a visit? Kabaka or Mu7? J. Ssenyange -- From: Edward Mulindwa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 20:56:00 -0500 But why does Kabaka go to Rwakitura to beg? The very nonsense I do not respond to. Em The Mulindwas Communication Group With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy Groupe de communication Mulindwas avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie - Original Message - From: ssenya nyange To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 6:52 PM Subject: RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Yaobang, How does Kabaka come into your equation? Kabaka does not beg or request for your information. Who ever wants to donate will donate freely. Who ever does not want to donate is not requested by Kabaka to donate. However, his subjects and officials can request for donations to help Kabaka's projects. His assets alone generate more revenue than the president's official income. The difference is that Kabaka wants to share it with his subjects unlike Mu7 who wants to milk his subjects without feeding them. Mu7 gave those cows to Kabaka as gifts just like any other Ugandan. Even non Ugandans ( e.g Bazungu) have been pictured in newspapers kneeling while donating to Kabaka ( after marrying Baganda women) as a sign of respect to the Institution of Kabakaship. All this is done to show respect to the Instituion of Kabakaship which is represented by Mutebi 11, ( not to Mutebi as a person). GET THE DIFFERENCE. Ssenyange -- From: Y Yaobang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 02:17:10 + message3.txt _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN Premium http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines -- J Ssemakula, Unlike your Kabaka, Obote cannot be bought with 25 cows, or any other bribe! y From: J Ssemakula Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 01:59:09 + -- Help STOP spam with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* _ Add photos to your messages with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug
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both Obote and Museveni's murderous nature, we decided to go back on survival 101; you've got to work with the enemy whether you like it or not! You can call Buganda names like Uganda sellers etc, but that does not change the fact that Obote murdered people. Once again, Buganda is to play her part. Buganda can not avoid interacting with presidents in power. Buganda's capital is Uganda's capital city. How can they avoid each other?? You can slip into fantasia but I'll not go with you. The colonialists could not avoid interacting with Buganda, the dictators of Uganda can not either. My dear, I want to bring you back to reality. GOD WILL NOT STOP THEM (murderer Mu7). Let us bring back federalism in Uganda and empower regions to make decisions on their security matters. Under this unitary system, the central gov't will continue to declare some northern regions not disaster areas. Yet in a federal system, the Acholi or Lango states can declare their areas, disaster regions and protect themselves. Today, the Arrow/Amuka boys are not paid for their services and they why they lack moral. Under federalism, the states of Acholi and Lango can easily pay the Arrow/Amuka boys because these states can actually collect taxes and boost their security. Lisa, come up with better cases! This business of you wishing on God to come down and make a miracle, yet God gave humans power to decide over their destiny is indeed foolish! Wake up! Support Federalism for All! And let me remind you that Obote killed federalism, we need to start from scratch now. Zakoomu R. Lisa Toro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yaobang and others, How many cows did the Misevenis and NRA take from Dr. Obote's home when they killed his frail father? How many did they takes from Obote's relatives and indeed the whole area plus district!. You will be more stupid to say it is 25 Cows. Infact they are harrassing and intimidating the Obotes brother then shout that they gave 25 blood cows! Those NRM vultures NEVER GET ENOUGH, ONLY GOD WILL STOP THEM. Rehema Mukooza whatever garbage you are talking about, some of us including Obote have always mean well for the future of Ugandans but your are busy digging future holes! But then again Ugandan sellers have always perferred to work with colonialist , imperialist etc etc and once more they have to keep the system going. Toro - Original Message - From: Rehema Mukooza To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 5:50 AM Subject: RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Yaobang, Buying Obote for what?? Obote can not function at his age! He is of no use to any thinking Ugandan who is looking forward to the future. The Kabaka will never be bought; he stays, president after president. Who ever thinks so, is indeed misguided and misinformed, like Obote. You can never ever buy a Kabaka. Obote tried it once, when he offered money to the Ankole, Bunyoro, Tooro, and Busoga monarchies in order to ban them real good, but the Kabaka of Buganda refused and he was exiled. Obote even wanted to chose who among the princes should take over after Kabaka Muteesa was exiled. Wrong decision - Poor, stupid, Obote! My advice to the anti-Kabaka camps is that, the monarchy of Buganda shall exist no matter what. The monarchy has already proved resilient towards blows (Obote, Amin). People, ya'll better use that energy of yours on something else and leave the Kabaka alone. The Kabaka has us regular folks to back him up no matter what. That is how strong an alliagence can be to our King(s), present and future. Some politicians like Obote, Museveni might think that they are buying the Kabaka, but in reality they are to move out and our Prince (Kabaka) is to stay in. A monarchy is a monarchy, unlike seasonal political leadership i.e Obote, Mu7. Mr. Yaobang, come up with a better example of folks being 'bought' by cows or money. I don't know why you people don't understand that Buganda and her Kabakaship are inseparatable. Buying something that will never go away, that has always existed is a sick example of how some Ugandans will never get it. Zakoomu R. Y Yaobang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: J Ssemakula, Unlike your Kabaka, Obote cannot be bought with 25 cows, or any other bribe! y From: J Ssemakula Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 01:59:09 + -- Help STOP spam with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 From: J Ssemakula To: [EMAIL
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J. Ssenyange: Dictator Museveni is a very crafty son-of-a-bitch. He invites the Kabaka to rwakitura, pays for all his expenses to come to rwakitura(central government expense), gives him the 50 cows, and then later, bang!-- he SPITS on the Kabaka: the dictator warned the Kabaka not to meddle in politics, and to leave itto "us the bakopi". Remember? He does that all the time to all the inept political opportunists who cross his path, including, unfortunately,your Mutebi II. y From: "ssenya nyange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 16:54:25 -0500 Mulindwa, By simple logic, If I know that you want to come ( visit) to my home to beg, I WILL BE VERY STUPID TO SEND YOU LIMOS AND HELICOPTORS TO TRANSPORT YOU TO MY HOME AND BACK. In other words, It would be very stupid of Mu7 to transport Kabaka by presidential helicoptors to Rwakitura if the purpose of the visit is known to be begging. Lastly, who requests for a visit? Kabaka or Mu7? J. Ssenyange -- From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 20:56:00 -0500 But why does Kabaka go to Rwakitura to beg? The very nonsense I do not respond to. Em The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" - Original Message - From: ssenya nyange To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 6:52 PM Subject: RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Yaobang, How does Kabaka come into your equation? Kabaka does not beg or request for your information. Who ever wants to donate will donate freely. Who ever does not want to donate is not requested by Kabaka to donate. However, his subjects and officials can request for donations to help Kabaka's projects. His assets alone generate more revenue than the president's "official" income. The difference is that Kabaka wants to share it with his subjects unlike Mu7 who wants to "milk" his subjects without "feeding" them.Mu7 gave those cows to Kabaka as gifts just like any other Ugandan. Even non Ugandans ( e.g Bazungu) have been pictured in newspapers kneeling while donating to Kabaka ( after marrying Baganda women) as a sign of respect to the Institution of Kabakaship. All this is done to show respect to the Instituion of Kabakaship which is represented by Mutebi 11, ( not to Mutebi as a person). GET THE DIFFERENCE. Ssenyange -- From: "Y Yaobang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 02:17:10 + message3.txt _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN Premium http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines -- J Ssemakula, Unlike your Kabaka, Obote cannot be bought with 25 cows, or any other bribe! y From: "J Ssemakula" Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 01:59:09 + -- Help STOP spam with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* _ Add photos to your messages with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug MSN 8 helps ELIMINATE E-MAIL VIRUSES. Get 2 months FREE*. This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug
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J. Ssenyange, From what I'm told, you are a very smart man. Why do you spew shit like this, in support of Museveni? Museveni will die, why do you want to ruin your future with such statements?We'll forgive, but we will never forget! yFrom: "ssenya nyange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 17:15:40 -0500 Mulindwa, Just continue giving your vote to your man OBOTE. He will continue ruling you even in exile, by sustaining you with frequent hand outs. FORGET ABOUT OBOTE RULING BUGANDA\ UGANDA AGAIN. J. Ssenyange From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 09:41:40 -0500 Buganda can never move ahead again until when Uganda gets a nationalistic president as Obote, who develops all Uganda areas equally. Does Uganda have a chance to get such a leader again today? No not on a nation which has Ssebagala as the best out there to look at. The developments in Buganda including Hospitals, Schools, job creation on and on stopped at the exit of Obote from Uganda politics. One can not help but wonder how Buganda has even failed to clear her own roads of Bulungi Bwansi, a project they would even do by their own hoes. What value is Mengo? Em - Original Message - From: Lisa Toro To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 7:20 AM Subject: Re: [Ugandacom] Re: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Rehema Mukooza . Present me the evidence, that is howsome of you Bagandans conieved with Museveni in Killing you own Kayirra in the name of elections were rigged! you are so blind that you only sport a goat from a far and not see an hayena at your foot !!! . The Baganda peasantry should takes control and su[pport of thier Kingdom and destinyrather than leaving it to some of this opportunists beatting thier seasonal drums to any order of the day and claiming latter they are not part of it. Your are squarely responsible for impossing Museveni and the NRA/M killers on Banganda and Ugandans with all the blood let, take responsiblility. The sooner the kingdom and the peasantry weed out these flees the sooner Buganda and Uganda will move a head. Toro - Original Message - From: Rehema Mukooza To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 4:31 AM Subject: [Ugandacom] Re: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Toro: Some of you including Obote have never always meant well for the future of Uganda.What is the future of Uganda??May I ask? Obote has never worked for the future of democracy in Uganda.He banned political parties and ridged elections.I want you to be sensible enough to acknowledge that.Do not let your imagination run wild! Museveni and his NRA are thugs and murderers, any sensible person knows that.There is nothing new you are informing me about the dictator in charge today! What "future holes" am I digging by speaking the truth about Obote??What actually do you mean by that??Should I take the "future holes" for a future revenge against Buganda and her Kingdom??I personaly, think that this kind of garbage you are blutting out is indeed a product of denial and lack of focus on real issues. If you knew better than you know now, you would find out who is truelly digging the future holes you are talking about.He is none other than the thug, Museveni!He has made enemies out of our neighbors surrounding Uganda and in Uganda.Blame Museveni, do not even start with me, or Buganda and her Kabaka. Now, let me teach you about some things in history and life as in general.The colonialist or imperialists came to Buganda with their big guns and shit.Buganda had no choice but to work with these armed imperialists because they possed a real, dangerous threat to our ancenstors. Survival 101; you've got to work with the enemy whether you like it or not.Buganda was not ready to sacrifice itself to be slaughtered by the colonialists, as they did to Native Americans and Zulus.There is more to life than acting as sacrifices to invaders.This should explain to you why Buganda hosts the largest single tribe/nation in Uganda.Human sacrifices have never worked for critical thinkers!Self preservation is the only way to allow the continuity of humanity. Luweero massacres.This mad man Museveni is no different from the colonialists.You get in his way, he slaughters you without any mercy.He did the same in Luweero, were civilians were caught in between Obote's brutal forceful gov't and the NRA rebels.Obote forced the civilians to turn against the NRA rebels by killing and brutalizing them (civilia
Re: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin
Yao You are explaining a very critical issue to a very uncritical mind. Ssenyange as many Baganda look at Uganda politics in such a narrow way. Museveni taped into that mind and he will die a president in Uganda. To Ssenyange what is important is that his Kabaka went to Rwakitura and with a helicopter from Museveni. That is enough and that can make the Ssenyange's of our days happy and fail to even see the bold mistake/s Museveni and UPDF does. Eh munange oli Museveni waffe yawadde Mutebi enyonyi. That is why Museveni will use Buganda all along, right from Luwero war to today. It is the political immaturity which obote classified as ignorance that is eating up my part of the country. The Ssenyange's in Mengo have for example just figured out that what Museveni gave them was byooya byanswa, just figured it out !!! That is why I say that Ugandans must acknowledge this loop hole we have in Buganda, and start to build Uganda as a nation. Em The Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" - Original Message - From: Y Yaobang To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 8:32 PM Subject: Re: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin J. Ssenyange: Dictator Museveni is a very crafty son-of-a-bitch. He invites the Kabaka to rwakitura, pays for all his expenses to come to rwakitura(central government expense), gives him the 50 cows, and then later, bang!-- he SPITS on the Kabaka: the dictator warned the Kabaka not to meddle in politics, and to leave itto "us the bakopi". Remember? He does that all the time to all the inept political opportunists who cross his path, including, unfortunately,your Mutebi II. y From: "ssenya nyange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 16:54:25 -0500 Mulindwa, By simple logic, If I know that you want to come ( visit) to my home to beg, I WILL BE VERY STUPID TO SEND YOU LIMOS AND HELICOPTORS TO TRANSPORT YOU TO MY HOME AND BACK. In other words, It would be very stupid of Mu7 to transport Kabaka by presidential helicoptors to Rwakitura if the purpose of the visit is known to be begging. Lastly, who requests for a visit? Kabaka or Mu7? J. Ssenyange -- From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 20:56:00 -0500 But why does Kabaka go to Rwakitura to beg? The very nonsense I do not respond to. Em The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" - Original Message - From: ssenya nyange To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 6:52 PM Subject: RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Yaobang, How does Kabaka come into your equation? Kabaka does not beg or request for your information. Who ever wants to donate will donate freely. Who ever does not want to donate is not requested by Kabaka to donate. However, his subjects and officials can request for donations to help Kabaka's projects. His assets alone generate more revenue than the president's "official" income. The difference is that Kabaka wants to share it with his subjects unlike Mu7 who wants to "milk" his subjects without "feeding" them.Mu7 gave those cows to Kabaka as gifts just like any other Ugandan. Even non Ugandans ( e.g Bazungu) have been pictured in newspapers kneeling while donating to Kabaka ( after marrying Baganda women) as a sign of respect to the Institution of Kabakaship. All this is done to show respect to the Instituion of Kabakaship which is represented by Mutebi 11, ( not to Mutebi as a person). GET THE DIFFERENCE. Ssenyange -- From: "Y Yaobang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 02:17:10 + message3.txt _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection wit
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Yaobang, I think you're dreming mu7 every day. Proove that I mentioned mu7 any where, in that email. Proove that I wrote any sentence supporting him. Supporting Mu7= supporting Obote. Mu7 is the top graduate of Obote's groomed cadres.Mu7 is continuing from Where Obote stopped i.e looting minerals from Congo; genocide in enemy regions; pegion holes constitutions; imprisonment without trials; silencing political parties; no freedon of speech; impoverishing Buganda; rule of the gun; never to be trusted; ruthless; blood thirsty etc. Ssenyange From: Y Yaobang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives ... Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 01:40:39 + _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines ---BeginMessage--- J. Ssenyange, From what I'm told, you are a very smart man. Why do you spew shit like this, in support of Museveni? Museveni will die, why do you want to ruin your future with such statements?We'll forgive, but we will never forget! yFrom: "ssenya nyange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 17:15:40 -0500 Mulindwa, Just continue giving your vote to your man OBOTE. He will continue ruling you even in exile, by sustaining you with frequent hand outs. FORGET ABOUT OBOTE RULING BUGANDA\ UGANDA AGAIN. J. Ssenyange From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 09:41:40 -0500 Buganda can never move ahead again until when Uganda gets a nationalistic president as Obote, who develops all Uganda areas equally. Does Uganda have a chance to get such a leader again today? No not on a nation which has Ssebagala as the best out there to look at. The developments in Buganda including Hospitals, Schools, job creation on and on stopped at the exit of Obote from Uganda politics. One can not help but wonder how Buganda has even failed to clear her own roads of Bulungi Bwansi, a project they would even do by their own hoes. What value is Mengo? Em - Original Message - From: Lisa Toro To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 7:20 AM Subject: Re: [Ugandacom] Re: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Rehema Mukooza . Present me the evidence, that is howsome of you Bagandans conieved with Museveni in Killing you own Kayirra in the name of elections were rigged! you are so blind that you only sport a goat from a far and not see an hayena at your foot !!! . The Baganda peasantry should takes control and su[pport of thier Kingdom and destinyrather than leaving it to some of this opportunists beatting thier seasonal drums to any order of the day and claiming latter they are not part of it. Your are squarely responsible for impossing Museveni and the NRA/M killers on Banganda and Ugandans with all the blood let, take responsiblility. The sooner the kingdom and the peasantry weed out these flees the sooner Buganda and Uganda will move a head. Toro - Original Message - From: Rehema Mukooza To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 4:31 AM Subject: [Ugandacom] Re: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Toro: Some of you including Obote have never always meant well for the future of Uganda.What is the future of Uganda??May I ask? Obote has never worked for the future of democracy in Uganda.He banned political parties and ridged elections.I want you to be sensible enough to acknowledge that.Do not let your imagination run wild! Museveni and his NRA are thugs and murderers, any sensible person knows that.There is nothing new you are informing me about the dictator in charge today! What "future holes" am I digging by speaking the truth about Obote??What actually do you mean by that??Should I take the "future holes" for a future revenge against Buganda and her Kingdom??I personaly, think that this kind of garbage you are blutting out is indeed a product of denial and lack of focus on real issues. If you knew better than you know now, you would find out who is truelly digging the future holes you are talking about.He is none other than the thug, Museveni!He has made enemies out of our neighbors surrounding Uganda and in Uganda.Blame Museveni, do not even start with me, or Buganda and her Kabaka. Now, let me teach you about some things in history and life as in general.The
Re: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote \ Yaobang @ Mulindwa
Yaobang, Do you think the majority of Baganda ( including me ) want Kabaka Mutebi to be invited ( actually SUMMONING)?. You cannot summon a Kabaka as per tradition. Do you know why the late Ben Kiwanuka was hated by Baganda? Its because while he was a prime Minister, he summoned or invited Kabaka to meet him ( Ben) at his residence or office. Ben was a Muganda who knew it. Because Kabaka does not have powers, he is held at runsom \ gun point by Mu7. You know what happened to Dr. Kayiira, DP's Ssekweyama etc. So long as Kabaka is in Uganda with no powers, he can be summoned at any time by the ruling president. This is what we want to reverse. This is against our culture. He's is the head of all Ganda clan leaders ( Ssabataka) no matter what. Rediculing him tantamount to rediculing all the Baganda who belong to the 52 clans.Thats why want a share of political powers, NOT deligated cultural powers. Watch with your eyes, we shall be there. Ssenyange --- From: Y Yaobang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 01:32:34 + _ STOP MORE SPAM with the MSN Premium and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines ---BeginMessage--- J. Ssenyange: Dictator Museveni is a very crafty son-of-a-bitch. He invites the Kabaka to rwakitura, pays for all his expenses to come to rwakitura(central government expense), gives him the 50 cows, and then later, bang!-- he SPITS on the Kabaka: the dictator warned the Kabaka not to meddle in politics, and to leave itto "us the bakopi". Remember? He does that all the time to all the inept political opportunists who cross his path, including, unfortunately,your Mutebi II. y From: "ssenya nyange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 16:54:25 -0500 Mulindwa, By simple logic, If I know that you want to come ( visit) to my home to beg, I WILL BE VERY STUPID TO SEND YOU LIMOS AND HELICOPTORS TO TRANSPORT YOU TO MY HOME AND BACK. In other words, It would be very stupid of Mu7 to transport Kabaka by presidential helicoptors to Rwakitura if the purpose of the visit is known to be begging. Lastly, who requests for a visit? Kabaka or Mu7? J. Ssenyange -- From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 20:56:00 -0500 But why does Kabaka go to Rwakitura to beg? The very nonsense I do not respond to. Em The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" - Original Message - From: ssenya nyange To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 6:52 PM Subject: RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Yaobang, How does Kabaka come into your equation? Kabaka does not beg or request for your information. Who ever wants to donate will donate freely. Who ever does not want to donate is not requested by Kabaka to donate. However, his subjects and officials can request for donations to help Kabaka's projects. His assets alone generate more revenue than the president's "official" income. The difference is that Kabaka wants to share it with his subjects unlike Mu7 who wants to "milk" his subjects without "feeding" them.Mu7 gave those cows to Kabaka as gifts just like any other Ugandan. Even non Ugandans ( e.g Bazungu) have been pictured in newspapers kneeling while donating to Kabaka ( after marrying Baganda women) as a sign of respect to the Institution of Kabakaship. All this is done to show respect to the Instituion of Kabakaship which is represented by Mutebi 11, ( not to Mutebi as a person). GET THE DIFFERENCE. Ssenyange -- From: "Y Yaobang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 02:17:10 + message3.txt _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN Premium http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines --
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Which brings me to the next question, who has more support in Buganda today, Kabaka Mutebi or President Museveni? Em The Mulindwas Communication Group With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy Groupe de communication Mulindwas avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie - Original Message - From: ssenya nyange [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 9:55 PM Subject: Re: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote \ Yaobang @ Mulindwa Yaobang, Do you think the majority of Baganda ( including me ) want Kabaka Mutebi to be invited ( actually SUMMONING)?. You cannot summon a Kabaka as per tradition. Do you know why the late Ben Kiwanuka was hated by Baganda? Its because while he was a prime Minister, he summoned or invited Kabaka to meet him ( Ben) at his residence or office. Ben was a Muganda who knew it. Because Kabaka does not have powers, he is held at runsom \ gun point by Mu7. You know what happened to Dr. Kayiira, DP's Ssekweyama etc. So long as Kabaka is in Uganda with no powers, he can be summoned at any time by the ruling president. This is what we want to reverse. This is against our culture. He's is the head of all Ganda clan leaders ( Ssabataka) no matter what. Rediculing him tantamount to rediculing all the Baganda who belong to the 52 clans.Thats why want a share of political powers, NOT deligated cultural powers. Watch with your eyes, we shall be there. Ssenyange --- From: Y Yaobang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 01:32:34 + _ STOP MORE SPAM with the MSN Premium and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug
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Oracha: In your ignorance, stupidity, childish-nature, not all people on Ugandanet are non-Baganda! Now, I want to know how "I don't know what I'm doing"?? I do not see anything wrong with talking about Buganda/Kabaka, a part of Uganda and discussing its cultural values and politics. Everyone here talks about other regions, why should Inot talk about Buganda/Kabaka?? I'll be damned to ignore the mother soil and her Kabaka. Again: What is it that "I don't know what I'm doing"?? Just point out things in my previous email which "I don't know what I'm doing" or talking about. Obote tried to "buy" Ankole, Bunyoro, Tooro, and Busoga monarchies with money and all these monarchies agreed to get the cash. Buganda refused this silly "buying", her Kabaka was exiled, and the seasonal leader (Obote) tried to appoint a prince to take over. Buganda was (is) not stupid as the temporaly dictator thought it would be (is). Boote's season is no more! That's what we call the old rug whose time is outdated. No matter how much folks here will not agree with me, I'll continue to point it out to you that theKabakaship / Bugandaare survivors. A new regime comes around, and the rules of survival kick in. So, whoever thinks that Museveni is "buying" the Kabaka is indeed wrong! The Kabakaship is to continue after the death of Museveni. Buganda can not avoid interactions with the central gov't or any president in power. By the way, "interactions" do not mean "buying". Make that clear in your thinking. Ever since Buganda's capital city, Kampalawas made Uganda's, the avoidance is impossible to happen. If anyone thought that Buganda would break the cord with the gov'ts in power, that is fantasia. Unless, of course if the whole of Uganda offers another city to serve as the capital city of Uganda to separate and avoid these interactions between Buganda and gov'ts in power. Until then, there is nothing anyone can do about this. Obote made these "interactions" only to come out burned! Poor, stupid, fellow! Amin did the same, and see the outcome. Okello's Junta militia did the same, Museveni swept into the interactions and established himself a dictator. Every overthrow or takeover that has happened in Uganda is sealed by capturing Buganda's capital city, Kampala and her Entebbe city. With all this nonsense that power hungry dictators (past, present, future)have done, you mean to tell me that not all readers on Ugandanet are not interested in Buganda?? This is how stupid and childish you can get! I do not care if "not all members of ugandanet are Baganda", the truth is that non-Baganda have interests in Buganda at least for as long as it hosts the capital city. I personally would want to know which Ugandan does not have an interest in Buganda. The LRA does have one. Obote, Amin, Okello, Mu7, etc had (have) one. And this silly business of people talking about Federo becoming Bugandanized is as stupid and unfocused as they get. If someone wants to take Buganda out of the limelight, he/she will have to move the capital city to some other part of Uganda, and leave Buganda(Kampala) alone. To show you how stupid and childish Ugandans have become. Buganda (Kampala) was declared as a none part of Buganda, it was declared part of Uganda instead. One wonders that is Buganda not Uganda?? All I can caution you about is that interests in Buganda by all Ugandans is undeniable. The sooner we realize that the better off Uganda shall be. As long as "not allreaders on Ugandanet are Baganda" butwith interests in Buganda, I shall continue to talk about Buganda and singling it out here. Like it or not! Let me hope that you are not that stupid and childish to have not already known the above points I've made. Zakoomu R. Zakoomu; Now I really believe that you're really stupid or very childish or don't know what you are doing which again reflect my first observation. Read your posting and consider that not all readers on Ugandanet are Baganda then you will see why i think your are as indicated above. oracha[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/6/2004 12:54:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yaobang, Buying Obote for what?? Obote can not function at his age! He is of no use to any thinking Ugandan who is looking forward to the future. The Kabaka will never be "bought"; he stays, president after president. Who ever thinks so, is indeed misguided and misinformed, like Obote. You can never ever buy a Kabaka. Obote tried it once, when he offered money to the Ankole, Bunyoro, Tooro, and Busoga monarchies in order to ban them real good, but the Kabaka of Bugandarefused and he was exiled. Obote even wanted to chose who among the princes should take over after Kabaka Muteesa was exiled. Wrong decision - Poor, stupid, Obote! My advice to the anti-Kabaka camps is that, the monarchy of
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"Ever since Buganda's capital city, Kampalawas made Uganda's, the avoidance is impossible to happen. If anyone thought that Buganda would break the cord with the gov'ts in power, that is fantasia. Unless, of course if the whole of Uganda offers another city to serve as the capital city of Uganda to separate and avoid these interactions between Buganda and gov'ts in power. Until then, there is nothing anyone can do about this. Obote made these "interactions" only to come out burned! Poor, stupid, fellow! Amin did the same, and see the outcome. Okello's Junta militia did the same, Museveni swept into the interactions and established himself a dictator. Every overthrow or takeover that has happened in Uganda is sealed by capturing Buganda's capital city, Kampala and her Entebbe city." Rehema Mukooza, Don't you think other Ugandans also paid taxes that contributed significantly in building these cities now you called "Buganda's capital city, Kampala and her Entebbe city."? BTW, I thought you were a Munyoro? I guess I was wrong. Rehema Mukooza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oracha: In your ignorance, stupidity, childish-nature, not all people on Ugandanet are non-Baganda! Now, I want to know how "I don't know what I'm doing"?? I do not see anything wrong with talking about Buganda/Kabaka, a part of Uganda and discussing its cultural values and politics. Everyone here talks about other regions, why should Inot talk about Buganda/Kabaka?? I'll be damned to ignore the mother soil and her Kabaka. Again: What is it that "I don't know what I'm doing"?? Just point out things in my previous email which "I don't know what I'm doing" or talking about. Obote tried to "buy" Ankole, Bunyoro, Tooro, and Busoga monarchies with money and all these monarchies agreed to get the cash. Buganda refused this silly "buying", her Kabaka was exiled, and the seasonal leader (Obote) tried to appoint a prince to take over. Buganda was (is) not stupid as the temporaly dictator thought it would be (is). Boote's season is no more! That's what we call the old rug whose time is outdated. No matter how much folks here will not agree with me, I'll continue to point it out to you that theKabakaship / Bugandaare survivors. A new regime comes around, and the rules of survival kick in. So, whoever thinks that Museveni is "buying" the Kabaka is indeed wrong! The Kabakaship is to continue after the death of Museveni. Buganda can not avoid interactions with the central gov't or any president in power. By the way, "interactions" do not mean "buying". Make that clear in your thinking. Ever since Buganda's capital city, Kampalawas made Uganda's, the avoidance is impossible to happen. If anyone thought that Buganda would break the cord with the gov'ts in power, that is fantasia. Unless, of course if the whole of Uganda offers another city to serve as the capital city of Uganda to separate and avoid these interactions between Buganda and gov'ts in power. Until then, there is nothing anyone can do about this. Obote made these "interactions" only to come out burned! Poor, stupid, fellow! Amin did the same, and see the outcome. Okello's Junta militia did the same, Museveni swept into the interactions and established himself a dictator. Every overthrow or takeover that has happened in Uganda is sealed by capturing Buganda's capital city, Kampala and her Entebbe city. With all this nonsense that power hungry dictators (past, present, future)have done, you mean to tell me that not all readers on Ugandanet are not interested in Buganda?? This is how stupid and childish you can get! I do not care if "not all members of ugandanet are Baganda", the truth is that non-Baganda have interests in Buganda at least for as long as it hosts the capital city. I personally would want to know which Ugandan does not have an interest in Buganda. The LRA does have one. Obote, Amin, Okello, Mu7, etc had (have) one. And this silly business of people talking about Federo becoming Bugandanized is as stupid and unfocused as they get. If someone wants to take Buganda out of the limelight, he/she will have to move the capital city to some other part of Uganda, and leave Buganda(Kampala) alone. To show you how stupid and childish Ugandans have become. Buganda (Kampala) was declared as a none part of Buganda, it was declared part of Uganda instead. One wonders that is Buganda not Uganda?? All I can caution you about is that interests in Buganda by all Ugandans is undeniable. The sooner we realize that the better off Uganda shall be. As long as "not allreaders on Ugandanet are Baganda" butwith interests in Buganda, I shall continue to talk about Buganda and singling it out here. Like it or not! Let me hope that you are not that stupid and childish to have not already known the above points I've made. Zakoomu R. Zakoomu; Now I really believe
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Yaobang and others, How many cows did the Misevenis and NRA take from Dr. Obote's home when they killed his frail father? How many did they takes from Obote's relatives and indeed the whole area plus district!. You will be more stupid to say it is 25 Cows. Infact they are harrassing and intimidating the Obotes brother then shout that theygave 25 blood cows! Those NRM vultures NEVER GET ENOUGH, ONLY GOD WILL STOP THEM. Rehema Mukooza whatever garbage you are talking about, some of usincluding Obote have always mean well forthe future of Ugandans but your are busy digging future holes! But then again Ugandan sellers have always perferred to work with colonialist , imperialist etc etc and once more they have to keep the system going. Toro - Original Message - From: Rehema Mukooza To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 5:50 AM Subject: RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Yaobang, Buying Obote for what?? Obote can not function at his age! He is of no use to any thinking Ugandan who is looking forward to the future. The Kabaka will never be "bought"; he stays, president after president. Who ever thinks so, is indeed misguided and misinformed, like Obote. You can never ever buy a Kabaka. Obote tried it once, when he offered money to the Ankole, Bunyoro, Tooro, and Busoga monarchies in order to ban them real good, but the Kabaka of Bugandarefused and he was exiled. Obote even wanted to chose who among the princes should take over after Kabaka Muteesa was exiled. Wrong decision - Poor, stupid, Obote! My advice to the anti-Kabaka camps is that, the monarchy of Buganda shall exist no matter what. The monarchy has already proved resilient towards blows (Obote, Amin). People, ya'll better use that energy of yours on something else and leave the Kabaka alone. The Kabaka has us regular folks to back him up no matter what. That is how strong an alliagence can be to our King(s), present and future. Some politicians like Obote, Museveni might think that they are "buying" the Kabaka, but in reality they are to move out and our Prince (Kabaka) is to stay in. A monarchy is a monarchy, unlike seasonal political leadership i.e Obote, Mu7. Mr. Yaobang, come up with a better example of folks being 'bought' by cows or money. I don't know why you people don't understand that Buganda and her Kabakaship are inseparatable. "Buying" something that will never go away, that has always existed is a sick example of how some Ugandans will never get it. Zakoomu R.Y Yaobang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: J Ssemakula, Unlike your Kabaka, Obote cannot be bought with 25 cows, or any other bribe! y From: "J Ssemakula" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 01:59:09 + Help STOP spam with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 From: "J Ssemakula" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote KinDate: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 01:59:09 + Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin By Patrick Opio PRESIDENT Yoweri Museveni has donated 25 heifers to the family of exiled former president Milton Obotes brother, Obadiah Akaki. Akaki, 80, Obotes elder brother said he received the cows through state minister for wildlife and antiquities Jovino Akaki-Ayumu, his clansman. He said in an interview at his home at Abeibuti village, Akokoro sub-county, Apac, recently that the cattle provide him with plenty of milk. He said he supplies the milk to the local community for money. My family now harvests a good amount of milk daily. We consume part of it and sell the rest to people in the neighbourhood, he said. Museveni gave Akaki sh10m when he visited his home in September 9, 2000. He then promised to donate heifers for milk production to the family. Akaki said Museveni sent drugs for the animals. He said the district veterinary officers help him control vectors such as tsetse flies and ticks by reg ularly spraying and dipping the animals. He praised minister Akaki-Ayumu for linking him with Museveni. With Akakis efforts, Museveni was able to visit us and consequently donated money and cattle to the family, Obadiah said. Ends Published on: Thursday, 4th March, 2004 Frustrated with dial-up? Lightning-fast Internet access for as low as $29.95/month. This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug
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Rehema Mukooza, How soon you forget! Dictator Museveni gave 50 cows toKabaka Mutebi sometime ago: I believe it was just before or after the presidential elections of 2001? Was that not bribery?? y From: Rehema Mukooza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 21:50:53 -0800 (PST) Yaobang, Buying Obote for what??Obote can not function at his age!He is of no use to any thinking Ugandan who is looking forward to the future.The Kabaka will never be "bought"; he stays, president after president.Who ever thinks so, is indeed misguided and misinformed, like Obote.You can never ever buy a Kabaka. Obote tried it once, when he offered money to the Ankole, Bunyoro, Tooro, and Busoga monarchies in order to ban them real good, but the Kabaka of Buganda refused and he was exiled.Obote even wanted to chose who among the princes should take over after Kabaka Muteesa was exiled.Wrong decision - Poor, stupid, Obote! My advice to the anti-Kabaka camps is that, the monarchy of Buganda shall exist no matter what.The monarchy has already proved resilient towards blows (Obote, Amin).People, ya'll better use that energy of yours on something else and leave the Kabaka alone.The Kabaka has us regular folks to back him up no matter what.That is how strong an alliagence can be to our King(s), present and future. Some politicians like Obote, Museveni might think that they are "buying" the Kabaka, but in reality they are to move out and our Prince (Kabaka) is to stay in.A monarchy is a monarchy, unlike seasonal political leadership i.e Obote, Mu7.Mr. Yaobang, come up with a better example of folks being 'bought' by cows or money.I don't know why you people don't understand that Buganda and her Kabakaship are inseparatable."Buying" something that will never go away, that has always existed is a sick example of how some Ugandans will never get it. Zakoomu R. Y Yaobang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: J Ssemakula, Unlike your Kabaka, Obote cannot be bought with 25 cows, or any other bribe! y From: "J Ssemakula" Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 01:59:09 + - Help STOP spam with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 From: "J Ssemakula" To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 01:59:09 + Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin By Patrick Opio PRESIDENT Yoweri Museveni has donated 25 heifers to the family of exiled former president Milton Obotes brother, Obadiah Akaki. Akaki, 80, Obotes elder brother said he received the cows through state minister for wildlife and antiquities Jovino Akaki-Ayumu, his clansman. He said in an interview at his home at Abeibuti village, Akokoro sub-county, Apac, recently that the cattle provide him with plenty of milk. He said he supplies the milk to the local community for money. My family now harvests a good amount of milk daily. We consume part of it and sell the rest to people in the neighbourhood, he said. Museveni gave Akaki sh10m when he visited his home in September 9, 2000. He then promised to donate heifers for milk production to the family. Akaki said Museveni sent drugs for the animals. He said the district veterinary officers help him control vectors such as tsetse flies and ticks by reg ularly spraying and dipping the animals. He praised minister Akaki-Ayumu for linking him with Museveni. With Akakis efforts, Museveni was able to visit us and consequently donated money and cattle to the family, Obadiah said. Ends Published on: Thursday, 4th March, 2004 - Frustrated with dial-up? Lightning-fast Internet access for as low as $29.95/month. This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what youre looking for faster. The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug
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Yaobang, How does Kabaka come into your equation? Kabaka does not beg or request for your information. Who ever wants to donate will donate freely. Who ever does not want to donate is not requested by Kabaka to donate. However, his subjects and officials can request for donations to help Kabaka's projects. His assets alone generate more revenue than the president's official income. The difference is that Kabaka wants to share it with his subjects unlike Mu7 who wants to milk his subjects without feeding them. Mu7 gave those cows to Kabaka as gifts just like any other Ugandan. Even non Ugandans ( e.g Bazungu) have been pictured in newspapers kneeling while donating to Kabaka ( after marrying Baganda women) as a sign of respect to the Institution of Kabakaship. All this is done to show respect to the Instituion of Kabakaship which is represented by Mutebi 11, ( not to Mutebi as a person). GET THE DIFFERENCE. Ssenyange -- From: Y Yaobang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 02:17:10 + message3.txt _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN Premium http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines J Ssemakula, Unlike your Kabaka, Obote cannot be bought with 25 cows, or any other bribe! y From: "J Ssemakula" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 01:59:09 + Help STOP spam with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE*
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But why does Kabaka go to Rwakitura to beg? The very nonsense I do not respond to. Em The Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" - Original Message - From: ssenya nyange To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 6:52 PM Subject: RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Yaobang, How does Kabaka come into your equation? Kabaka does not beg or request for your information.Who ever wants to donate will donate freely. Who ever does not want to donate is not requested by Kabaka to donate. However, his subjects and officials can request for donations to help Kabaka's projects. His assets alone generate more revenue than the president's "official" income. The difference is that Kabaka wants to share it with his subjects unlike Mu7 who wants to "milk" his subjects without "feeding" them. Mu7 gave those cows to Kabaka as gifts just like any other Ugandan. Even non Ugandans ( e.g Bazungu) have been pictured in newspapers kneeling while donating to Kabaka ( after marrying Baganda women) as a sign of respect to the Institution of Kabakaship. All this is done to show respect to the Instituion of Kabakaship which is represented by Mutebi 11, ( not to Mutebi as a person). GET THE DIFFERENCE.Ssenyange--From: "Y Yaobang" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote KinDate: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 02:17:10 + message3.txt _Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN Premium http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines J Ssemakula, Unlike your Kabaka, Obote cannot be bought with 25 cows, or any other bribe! y From: "J Ssemakula" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 01:59:09 + Help STOP spam with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE*
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Yaobang, Buying Obote for what?? Obote can not function at his age! He is of no use to any thinking Ugandan who is looking forward to the future. The Kabaka will never be "bought"; he stays, president after president. Who ever thinks so, is indeed misguided and misinformed, like Obote. You can never ever buy a Kabaka. Obote tried it once, when he offered money to the Ankole, Bunyoro, Tooro, and Busoga monarchies in order to ban them real good, but the Kabaka of Bugandarefused and he was exiled. Obote even wanted to chose who among the princes should take over after Kabaka Muteesa was exiled. Wrong decision - Poor, stupid, Obote! My advice to the anti-Kabaka camps is that, the monarchy of Buganda shall exist no matter what. The monarchy has already proved resilient towards blows (Obote, Amin). People, ya'll better use that energy of yours on something else and leave the Kabaka alone. The Kabaka has us regular folks to back him up no matter what. That is how strong an alliagence can be to our King(s), present and future. Some politicians like Obote, Museveni might think that they are "buying" the Kabaka, but in reality they are to move out and our Prince (Kabaka) is to stay in. A monarchy is a monarchy, unlike seasonal political leadership i.e Obote, Mu7. Mr. Yaobang, come up with a better example of folks being 'bought' by cows or money. I don't know why you people don't understand that Buganda and her Kabakaship are inseparatable. "Buying" something that will never go away, that has always existed is a sick example of how some Ugandans will never get it. Zakoomu R.Y Yaobang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: J Ssemakula, Unlike your Kabaka, Obote cannot be bought with 25 cows, or any other bribe! y From: "J Ssemakula" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 01:59:09 + Help STOP spam with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 From: "J Ssemakula" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote KinDate: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 01:59:09 + Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin By Patrick Opio PRESIDENT Yoweri Museveni has donated 25 heifers to the family of exiled former president Milton Obotes brother, Obadiah Akaki. Akaki, 80, Obotes elder brother said he received the cows through state minister for wildlife and antiquities Jovino Akaki-Ayumu, his clansman. He said in an interview at his home at Abeibuti village, Akokoro sub-county, Apac, recently that the cattle provide him with plenty of milk. He said he supplies the milk to the local community for money. My family now harvests a good amount of milk daily. We consume part of it and sell the rest to people in the neighbourhood, he said. Museveni gave Akaki sh10m when he visited his home in September 9, 2000. He then promised to donate heifers for milk production to the family. Akaki said Museveni sent drugs for the animals. He said the district veterinary officers help him control vectors such as tsetse flies and ticks by reg ularly spraying and dipping the animals. He praised minister Akaki-Ayumu for linking him with Museveni. With Akakis efforts, Museveni was able to visit us and consequently donated money and cattle to the family, Obadiah said. Ends Published on: Thursday, 4th March, 2004 Frustrated with dial-up? Lightning-fast Internet access for as low as $29.95/month. This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what youre looking for faster.
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In a message dated 3/6/2004 12:54:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yaobang, Buying Obote for what?? Obote can not function at his age! He is of no use to any thinking Ugandan who is looking forward to the future. The Kabaka will never be "bought"; he stays, president after president. Who ever thinks so, is indeed misguided and misinformed, like Obote. You can never ever buy a Kabaka. Obote tried it once, when he offered money to the Ankole, Bunyoro, Tooro, and Busoga monarchies in order to ban them real good, but the Kabaka of Bugandarefused and he was exiled. Obote even wanted to chose who among the princes should take over after Kabaka Muteesa was exiled. Wrong decision - Poor, stupid, Obote! My advice to the anti-Kabaka camps is that, the monarchy of Buganda shall exist no matter what. The monarchy has already proved resilient towards blows (Obote, Amin). People, ya'll better use that energy of yours on something else and leave the Kabaka alone. The Kabaka has us regular folks to back him up no matter what. That is how strong an alliagence can be to our King(s), present and future. Some politicians like Obote, Museveni might think that they are "buying" the Kabaka, but in reality they are to move out and our Prince (Kabaka) is to stay in. A monarchy is a monarchy, unlike seasonal political leadership i.e Obote, Mu7. Mr. Yaobang, come up with a better example of folks being 'bought' by cows or money. I don't know why you people don't understand that Buganda and her Kabakaship are inseparatable. "Buying" something that will never go away, that has always existed is a sick example of how some Ugandans will never get it. Zakoomu R. Zakoomu; Now I really believe that you're really stupid or very childish or don't know what you are doing which again reflect my first observation. Read your posting and consider that not all readers on Ugandanet are Baganda then you will see why i think your are as indicated above. oracha