Re: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin

2004-03-08 Thread jonah kasangwawo
okello wrote:

Don't you think other Ugandans also paid taxes that contributed 
significantly in building these cities now you called Buganda's capital 
city, Kampala and her Entebbe city.?

Well, don't you think Baganda also paid taxes that contributed significantly 
in building towns like Mbale, Gulu, Lira, Kabale, et cetera ?

Kasangwawo

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Ever since Buganda's capital city, Kampala was made Uganda's, the 
avoidance is impossible to happen.  If anyone thought that Buganda would 
break the cord with the gov'ts in power, that is fantasia.  Unless, of 
course if the whole of Uganda offers another city to serve as the capital 
city of Uganda to separate and avoid these interactions between Buganda and 
gov'ts in power.  Until then, there is nothing anyone can do about this.

Obote made these interactions only to come out burned!  Poor, stupid, 
fellow!  Amin did the same, and see the outcome.  Okello's Junta militia 
did the same, Museveni swept into the interactions and established himself 
a dictator.  Every overthrow or takeover that has happened in Uganda is 
sealed by capturing Buganda's capital city, Kampala and her Entebbe city.

Rehema Mukooza,

Don't you think other Ugandans also paid taxes that contributed 
significantly in building these cities now you called Buganda's capital 
city, Kampala and her Entebbe city.?

BTW, I thought you were a Munyoro? I guess I was wrong.

Rehema Mukooza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oracha:
In your ignorance, stupidity, childish-nature, not all people on Ugandanet 
are non-Baganda!   Now, I want to know how I don't know what I'm doing??  
I do not see anything wrong with talking about Buganda/Kabaka, a part of 
Uganda and discussing its cultural values and politics.  Everyone here 
talks about other regions, why should I not talk about Buganda/Kabaka??  
I'll be damned to ignore the mother soil and her Kabaka.

Again:  What is it that I don't know what I'm doing??  Just point out 
things in my previous email which I don't know what I'm doing or talking 
about.

Obote tried to buy Ankole, Bunyoro, Tooro, and Busoga monarchies with 
money and all these monarchies agreed to get the cash.  Buganda refused 
this silly buying, her Kabaka was exiled, and the seasonal leader (Obote) 
tried to appoint a prince to take over.  Buganda was (is) not stupid as the 
temporaly dictator thought it would be (is).  Boote's season is no more!  
That's what we call the old rug whose time is outdated.

No matter how much folks here will not agree with me, I'll continue to 
point it out to you that the Kabakaship / Buganda are survivors.  A new 
regime comes around, and the rules of survival kick in.  So, whoever thinks 
that Museveni is buying the Kabaka is indeed wrong!  The Kabakaship is to 
continue after the death of Museveni.

Buganda can not avoid interactions with the central gov't or any president 
in power.  By the way, interactions do not mean buying.  Make that 
clear in your thinking.  Ever since Buganda's capital city, Kampala was 
made Uganda's, the avoidance is impossible to happen.  If anyone thought 
that Buganda would break the cord with the gov'ts in power, that is 
fantasia.  Unless, of course if the whole of Uganda offers another city to 
serve as the capital city of Uganda to separate and avoid these 
interactions between Buganda and gov'ts in power.  Until then, there is 
nothing anyone can do about this.

Obote made these interactions only to come out burned!  Poor, stupid, 
fellow!  Amin did the same, and see the outcome.  Okello's Junta militia 
did the same, Museveni swept into the interactions and established himself 
a dictator.  Every overthrow or takeover that has happened in Uganda is 
sealed by capturing Buganda's capital city, Kampala and her Entebbe city.

With all this nonsense that power hungry dictators (past, present, future) 
have done, you mean to tell me that not all readers on Ugandanet are not 
interested in Buganda??  This is how stupid and childish you can get!  I do 
not care if not all members of ugandanet are Baganda, the truth is that 
non-Baganda have interests in Buganda at least for as long as it hosts the 
capital city.

I personally would want to know which Ugandan does not have an interest in 
Buganda.  The LRA does have one.  Obote, Amin, Okello, Mu7, etc had (have) 
one.  And this silly business of people talking about Federo becoming 
Bugandanized is as stupid and unfocused as they get.  If someone wants to 
take Buganda out of the limelight, he/she will have to move the capital 
city to some other part of Uganda, and leave Buganda(Kampala) alone.

To show you how stupid and childish Ugandans have become.  Buganda 
(Kampala) was declared as a none part of Buganda, it was declared part of 
Uganda instead.  One wonders that is Buganda not Uganda??  All I can

RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives

2004-03-08 Thread Y Yaobang

J. Ssenyange,
I do respect the institution of the Kabaka of Buganda, and I do hope that one day real power is returned to it. But, dont expect to get it back from dictator Museveni.
y
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Re: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote \ Yaobang @ Mulindwa

2004-03-08 Thread jonah kasangwawo
Of what use is this information to you ?


From: Edward Mulindwa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 01:14:27 -0500
Which brings me to the next question, who has more support in Buganda 
today,
Kabaka Mutebi or President Museveni?

Em

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 Yaobang,

   Do you think the majority of Baganda ( including me ) want
Kabaka
 Mutebi to be invited ( actually SUMMONING)?.  You cannot summon a Kabaka
as
 per tradition. Do you know why the late Ben Kiwanuka was hated by 
Baganda?
 Its because while he was a prime Minister, he summoned or invited 
Kabaka
 to meet him ( Ben) at his residence or office. Ben was a Muganda who 
knew
 it. Because Kabaka does not have powers, he is held at runsom \ gun
point
 by Mu7. You know what happened to Dr. Kayiira, DP's Ssekweyama etc. So
long
 as Kabaka is in Uganda with no powers, he can be summoned at any time by
the
 ruling president. This is what we want to reverse. This is against our
 culture. He's is the head of all Ganda clan leaders ( Ssabataka) no 
matter
 what. Rediculing him tantamount to rediculing all the Baganda who belong
to
 the 52 clans.Thats why want a share of political powers, NOT deligated
 cultural powers.  Watch with your eyes, we shall be there.

 Ssenyange
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RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives ...

2004-03-08 Thread jonah kasangwawo
y,

well, we shall also not forget. In fact, if these denials of killing us 
continue, we may not even forgive.

Kasangwawo


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J. Ssenyange,
From what I'm told, you are a very smart man. Why do you spew shit like this, in support of Museveni? Museveni will die, why do you want to ruin your future with such statements?We'll forgive, but we will never forget!
yFrom: "ssenya nyange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 17:15:40 -0500 
 
 
Mulindwa, 
 
 Just continue giving your vote to your man OBOTE. He 
will continue ruling you even in exile, by sustaining you with 
frequent hand outs. FORGET ABOUT OBOTE RULING BUGANDA\ UGANDA AGAIN. 
 
J. Ssenyange 
 
 
 
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Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 09:41:40 -0500 
 
Buganda can never move ahead again until when Uganda gets a 
nationalistic president as Obote, who develops all Uganda areas 
equally. Does Uganda have a chance to get such a leader again 
today? No not on a nation which has Ssebagala as the best out there 
to look at. The developments in Buganda including Hospitals, 
Schools, job creation on and on stopped at the exit of Obote from 
Uganda politics. One can not help but wonder how Buganda has even 
failed to clear her own roads of Bulungi Bwansi, a project they 
would even do by their own hoes. What value is Mengo? 
Em 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Lisa Toro 
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 7:20 AM 
 Subject: Re: [Ugandacom] Re: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin 
 
 
 Rehema Mukooza . 
 
 Present me the evidence, that is howsome of you Bagandans 
conieved with Museveni in Killing you own Kayirra in the name of 
elections were rigged! you are so blind that you only sport a goat 
from a far and not see an hayena at your foot !!! . The Baganda 
peasantry should takes control and su[pport of thier Kingdom and 
destinyrather than leaving it to some of this opportunists 
beatting thier seasonal drums to any order of the day and claiming 
latter they are not part of it. 
 
Your are squarely responsible for impossing Museveni and the 
NRA/M killers on Banganda and Ugandans with all the blood let, take 
responsiblility. The sooner the kingdom and the peasantry weed out 
these flees the sooner Buganda and Uganda will move a head. 
 
 Toro 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Rehema Mukooza 
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 4:31 AM 
 Subject: [Ugandacom] Re: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin 
 
 
 Toro: 
 
 Some of you including Obote have never always meant well for 
the future of Uganda.What is the future of Uganda??May I ask? 
Obote has never worked for the future of democracy in Uganda.He 
banned political parties and ridged elections.I want you to be 
sensible enough to acknowledge that.Do not let your imagination 
run wild! 
 
 Museveni and his NRA are thugs and murderers, any sensible 
person knows that.There is nothing new you are informing me about 
the dictator in charge today! 
 
 What "future holes" am I digging by speaking the truth about 
Obote??What actually do you mean by that??Should I take the 
"future holes" for a future revenge against Buganda and her 
Kingdom??I personaly, think that this kind of garbage you are 
blutting out is indeed a product of denial and lack of focus on 
real issues. 
 
 If you knew better than you know now, you would find out who 
is truelly digging the future holes you are talking about.He is 
none other than the thug, Museveni!He has made enemies out of our 
neighbors surrounding Uganda and in Uganda.Blame Museveni, do not 
even start with me, or Buganda and her Kabaka. 
 
 Now, let me teach you about some things in history and life as 
in general.The colonialist or imperialists came to Buganda with 
their big guns and shit.Buganda had no choice but to work with 
these armed imperialists because they possed a real, dangerous 
threat to our ancenstors. 
 
 Survival 101; you've got to work with the enemy whether you 
like it or not.Buganda was not ready to sacrifice itself to be 
slaughtered by the colonialists, as they did to Native Americans 
and Zulus.There is more to life than acting as sacrifices to 
invaders.This should explain to you why Buganda hosts the largest 
single tribe/nation in Uganda.Human sacri

RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin

2004-03-08 Thread jonah kasangwawo
 like Uganda 
sellers etc, but that does not change the fact that Obote murdered people.

Once again, Buganda is to play her part.  Buganda can not avoid 
interacting with presidents in power.  Buganda's capital is Uganda's 
capital city.  How can they avoid each other??  You can slip into fantasia 
but I'll not go with you.  The colonialists could not avoid interacting 
with Buganda, the dictators of Uganda can not either.

My dear, I want to bring you back to reality. GOD WILL NOT STOP THEM 
(murderer Mu7).  Let us bring back federalism in Uganda and empower regions 
to make decisions on their security matters.  Under this unitary system, 
the central gov't will continue to declare some northern regions not 
disaster areas.  Yet in a federal system, the Acholi or Lango states can 
declare their areas, disaster regions and protect themselves.  Today, the 
Arrow/Amuka boys are not paid for their services and they why they lack 
moral.  Under federalism, the states of Acholi and Lango can easily pay the 
Arrow/Amuka boys because these states can actually collect taxes and boost 
their security.

Lisa, come up with better cases!  This business of you wishing on God 
to come down and make a miracle, yet God gave humans power to decide over 
their destiny is indeed foolish!  Wake up!  Support Federalism for All!  
And let me remind you that Obote killed federalism, we need to start from 
scratch now.

Zakoomu R.

Lisa Toro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Yaobang and others,
  How many cows did the Misevenis and NRA take from Dr. Obote's home 
when they killed his frail father? How many did they takes from Obote's 
relatives and indeed the whole area plus district!. You will be more stupid 
to say it is 25 Cows.  Infact they are harrassing and intimidating the 
Obotes brother then shout that they gave 25 blood cows! Those NRM vultures 
NEVER GET ENOUGH, ONLY GOD WILL STOP THEM.

Rehema Mukooza  whatever garbage you are talking about, some of us 
including Obote have always mean well for the future of Ugandans but your 
are busy digging future holes! But then again Ugandan sellers have always 
perferred to work with colonialist , imperialist etc etc and once more they 
have to keep the system going.

  Toro



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From: Rehema Mukooza
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 5:50 AM
Subject: RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin
Yaobang,

Buying Obote for what??  Obote can not function at his age!  He is 
of no use to any thinking Ugandan who is looking forward to the future.  
The Kabaka will never be bought; he stays, president after president.  
Who ever thinks so, is indeed misguided and misinformed, like Obote.  You 
can never ever buy a Kabaka.

Obote tried it once, when he offered money to the Ankole, Bunyoro, 
Tooro, and Busoga monarchies in order to ban them real good, but the Kabaka 
of Buganda refused and he was exiled.  Obote even wanted to chose who among 
the princes should take over after Kabaka Muteesa was exiled.  Wrong 
decision - Poor, stupid, Obote!

My advice to the anti-Kabaka camps is that, the monarchy of 
Buganda shall exist no matter what.  The monarchy has already proved 
resilient towards blows (Obote, Amin).  People, ya'll better use that 
energy of yours on something else and leave the Kabaka alone.  The Kabaka 
has us regular folks to back him up no matter what.  That is how strong an 
alliagence can be to our King(s), present and future.

Some politicians like Obote, Museveni might think that they are 
buying the Kabaka, but in reality they are to move out and our Prince 
(Kabaka) is to stay in.  A monarchy is a monarchy, unlike seasonal 
political leadership i.e Obote, Mu7.  Mr. Yaobang, come up with a better 
example of folks being 'bought' by cows or money.  I don't know why you 
people don't understand that Buganda and her Kabakaship are inseparatable.  
Buying something that will never go away, that has always existed is a 
sick example of how some Ugandans will never get it.

Zakoomu R.

Y Yaobang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  J Ssemakula,
  Unlike your Kabaka, Obote cannot be bought with 25 cows, or any 
other bribe!

  y

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Re: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin

2004-03-07 Thread ssenya nyange
Mulindwa,

  By simple logic, If I know that you want to come ( visit) to my 
home to beg, I WILL BE VERY STUPID TO SEND YOU LIMOS AND HELICOPTORS TO 
TRANSPORT YOU TO MY HOME AND BACK. In other words, It would be very stupid 
of Mu7 to transport Kabaka by presidential helicoptors to Rwakitura if the 
purpose of the visit is known to be begging. Lastly, who requests for a 
visit? Kabaka or Mu7?

J. Ssenyange
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Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 20:56:00 -0500
But why does Kabaka go to Rwakitura to beg?

The very nonsense I do not respond to.

Em

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With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy
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  Yaobang,

How does Kabaka come into your equation? Kabaka does not 
beg
  or request for your information.
  Who ever wants to donate will donate freely. Who ever does not want to
  donate is not requested by Kabaka to donate. However, his subjects and
  officials can request for donations to help Kabaka's projects. His 
assets
  alone generate more revenue than the president's official income. The
  difference is that Kabaka wants to share it with his subjects unlike Mu7 
who
  wants to milk his subjects without feeding them.  Mu7 gave those 
cows to
  Kabaka as gifts just like any other Ugandan. Even non Ugandans ( e.g
  Bazungu) have been pictured in newspapers kneeling while donating to 
Kabaka
  ( after marrying Baganda women) as a sign of respect to the Institution 
of
  Kabakaship. All this is done to show respect to the Instituion of 
Kabakaship
  which is represented by Mutebi 11, ( not to Mutebi as a person). GET THE
  DIFFERENCE.

  Ssenyange
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RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin

2004-03-07 Thread ssenya nyange
 both Obote and Museveni's murderous 
nature, we decided to go back on survival 101; you've got to work with the 
enemy whether you like it or not!  You can call Buganda names like Uganda 
sellers etc, but that does not change the fact that Obote murdered people.

Once again, Buganda is to play her part.  Buganda can not avoid 
interacting with presidents in power.  Buganda's capital is Uganda's 
capital city.  How can they avoid each other??  You can slip into fantasia 
but I'll not go with you.  The colonialists could not avoid interacting 
with Buganda, the dictators of Uganda can not either.

My dear, I want to bring you back to reality. GOD WILL NOT STOP THEM 
(murderer Mu7).  Let us bring back federalism in Uganda and empower regions 
to make decisions on their security matters.  Under this unitary system, 
the central gov't will continue to declare some northern regions not 
disaster areas.  Yet in a federal system, the Acholi or Lango states can 
declare their areas, disaster regions and protect themselves.  Today, the 
Arrow/Amuka boys are not paid for their services and they why they lack 
moral.  Under federalism, the states of Acholi and Lango can easily pay the 
Arrow/Amuka boys because these states can actually collect taxes and boost 
their security.

Lisa, come up with better cases!  This business of you wishing on God 
to come down and make a miracle, yet God gave humans power to decide over 
their destiny is indeed foolish!  Wake up!  Support Federalism for All!  
And let me remind you that Obote killed federalism, we need to start from 
scratch now.

Zakoomu R.

Lisa Toro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Yaobang and others,
  How many cows did the Misevenis and NRA take from Dr. Obote's home 
when they killed his frail father? How many did they takes from Obote's 
relatives and indeed the whole area plus district!. You will be more stupid 
to say it is 25 Cows.  Infact they are harrassing and intimidating the 
Obotes brother then shout that they gave 25 blood cows! Those NRM vultures 
NEVER GET ENOUGH, ONLY GOD WILL STOP THEM.

Rehema Mukooza  whatever garbage you are talking about, some of us 
including Obote have always mean well for the future of Ugandans but your 
are busy digging future holes! But then again Ugandan sellers have always 
perferred to work with colonialist , imperialist etc etc and once more they 
have to keep the system going.

  Toro



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From: Rehema Mukooza
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 5:50 AM
Subject: RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin
Yaobang,

Buying Obote for what??  Obote can not function at his age!  He is 
of no use to any thinking Ugandan who is looking forward to the future.  
The Kabaka will never be bought; he stays, president after president.  
Who ever thinks so, is indeed misguided and misinformed, like Obote.  You 
can never ever buy a Kabaka.

Obote tried it once, when he offered money to the Ankole, Bunyoro, 
Tooro, and Busoga monarchies in order to ban them real good, but the Kabaka 
of Buganda refused and he was exiled.  Obote even wanted to chose who among 
the princes should take over after Kabaka Muteesa was exiled.  Wrong 
decision - Poor, stupid, Obote!

My advice to the anti-Kabaka camps is that, the monarchy of 
Buganda shall exist no matter what.  The monarchy has already proved 
resilient towards blows (Obote, Amin).  People, ya'll better use that 
energy of yours on something else and leave the Kabaka alone.  The Kabaka 
has us regular folks to back him up no matter what.  That is how strong an 
alliagence can be to our King(s), present and future.

Some politicians like Obote, Museveni might think that they are 
buying the Kabaka, but in reality they are to move out and our Prince 
(Kabaka) is to stay in.  A monarchy is a monarchy, unlike seasonal 
political leadership i.e Obote, Mu7.  Mr. Yaobang, come up with a better 
example of folks being 'bought' by cows or money.  I don't know why you 
people don't understand that Buganda and her Kabakaship are inseparatable.  
Buying something that will never go away, that has always existed is a 
sick example of how some Ugandans will never get it.

Zakoomu R.

Y Yaobang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  J Ssemakula,
  Unlike your Kabaka, Obote cannot be bought with 25 cows, or any 
other bribe!

  y

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Re: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin

2004-03-07 Thread Y Yaobang

J. Ssenyange:
Dictator Museveni is a very crafty son-of-a-bitch. He invites the Kabaka to rwakitura, pays for all his expenses to come to rwakitura(central government expense), gives him the 50 cows, and then later, bang!-- he SPITS on the Kabaka: the dictator warned the Kabaka not to meddle in politics, and to leave itto "us the bakopi". Remember? He does that all the time to all the inept political opportunists who cross his path, including, unfortunately,your Mutebi II.
y
From: "ssenya nyange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Re: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin 
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 16:54:25 -0500 
 
 
Mulindwa, 
 
 By simple logic, If I know that you want to come ( visit) 
to my home to beg, I WILL BE VERY STUPID TO SEND YOU LIMOS AND 
HELICOPTORS TO TRANSPORT YOU TO MY HOME AND BACK. In other words, It 
would be very stupid of Mu7 to transport Kabaka by presidential 
helicoptors to Rwakitura if the purpose of the visit is known to be 
begging. Lastly, who requests for a visit? Kabaka or Mu7? 
 
J. Ssenyange 
-- 
 
 
From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin 
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 20:56:00 -0500 
 
But why does Kabaka go to Rwakitura to beg? 
 
The very nonsense I do not respond to. 
 
Em 
 
 
The Mulindwas Communication Group 
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" 
 Groupe de communication Mulindwas 
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: ssenya nyange 
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 6:52 PM 
 Subject: RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin 
 
 
 
 Yaobang, 
 
 How does Kabaka come into your equation? Kabaka 
does not beg 
 or request for your information. 
 Who ever wants to donate will donate freely. Who ever does not 
want to 
 donate is not requested by Kabaka to donate. However, his 
subjects and 
 officials can request for donations to help Kabaka's projects. 
His assets 
 alone generate more revenue than the president's "official" 
income. The 
 difference is that Kabaka wants to share it with his subjects 
unlike Mu7 who 
 wants to "milk" his subjects without "feeding" them.Mu7 gave 
those cows to 
 Kabaka as gifts just like any other Ugandan. Even non Ugandans ( 
e.g 
 Bazungu) have been pictured in newspapers kneeling while 
donating to Kabaka 
 ( after marrying Baganda women) as a sign of respect to the 
Institution of 
 Kabakaship. All this is done to show respect to the Instituion 
of Kabakaship 
 which is represented by Mutebi 11, ( not to Mutebi as a person). 
GET THE 
 DIFFERENCE. 
 
 
 Ssenyange 
 -- 
 
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 Unlike your Kabaka, Obote cannot be bought with 25 cows, or any 
other bribe! 
 
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2004-03-07 Thread Y Yaobang

J. Ssenyange,
From what I'm told, you are a very smart man. Why do you spew shit like this, in support of Museveni? Museveni will die, why do you want to ruin your future with such statements?We'll forgive, but we will never forget!
yFrom: "ssenya nyange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin 
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 17:15:40 -0500 
 
 
Mulindwa, 
 
 Just continue giving your vote to your man OBOTE. He 
will continue ruling you even in exile, by sustaining you with 
frequent hand outs. FORGET ABOUT OBOTE RULING BUGANDA\ UGANDA AGAIN. 
 
J. Ssenyange 
 
 
 
From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin 
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 09:41:40 -0500 
 
Buganda can never move ahead again until when Uganda gets a 
nationalistic president as Obote, who develops all Uganda areas 
equally. Does Uganda have a chance to get such a leader again 
today? No not on a nation which has Ssebagala as the best out there 
to look at. The developments in Buganda including Hospitals, 
Schools, job creation on and on stopped at the exit of Obote from 
Uganda politics. One can not help but wonder how Buganda has even 
failed to clear her own roads of Bulungi Bwansi, a project they 
would even do by their own hoes. What value is Mengo? 
Em 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Lisa Toro 
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 7:20 AM 
 Subject: Re: [Ugandacom] Re: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin 
 
 
 Rehema Mukooza . 
 
 Present me the evidence, that is howsome of you Bagandans 
conieved with Museveni in Killing you own Kayirra in the name of 
elections were rigged! you are so blind that you only sport a goat 
from a far and not see an hayena at your foot !!! . The Baganda 
peasantry should takes control and su[pport of thier Kingdom and 
destinyrather than leaving it to some of this opportunists 
beatting thier seasonal drums to any order of the day and claiming 
latter they are not part of it. 
 
Your are squarely responsible for impossing Museveni and the 
NRA/M killers on Banganda and Ugandans with all the blood let, take 
responsiblility. The sooner the kingdom and the peasantry weed out 
these flees the sooner Buganda and Uganda will move a head. 
 
 Toro 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Rehema Mukooza 
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 4:31 AM 
 Subject: [Ugandacom] Re: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin 
 
 
 Toro: 
 
 Some of you including Obote have never always meant well for 
the future of Uganda.What is the future of Uganda??May I ask? 
Obote has never worked for the future of democracy in Uganda.He 
banned political parties and ridged elections.I want you to be 
sensible enough to acknowledge that.Do not let your imagination 
run wild! 
 
 Museveni and his NRA are thugs and murderers, any sensible 
person knows that.There is nothing new you are informing me about 
the dictator in charge today! 
 
 What "future holes" am I digging by speaking the truth about 
Obote??What actually do you mean by that??Should I take the 
"future holes" for a future revenge against Buganda and her 
Kingdom??I personaly, think that this kind of garbage you are 
blutting out is indeed a product of denial and lack of focus on 
real issues. 
 
 If you knew better than you know now, you would find out who 
is truelly digging the future holes you are talking about.He is 
none other than the thug, Museveni!He has made enemies out of our 
neighbors surrounding Uganda and in Uganda.Blame Museveni, do not 
even start with me, or Buganda and her Kabaka. 
 
 Now, let me teach you about some things in history and life as 
in general.The colonialist or imperialists came to Buganda with 
their big guns and shit.Buganda had no choice but to work with 
these armed imperialists because they possed a real, dangerous 
threat to our ancenstors. 
 
 Survival 101; you've got to work with the enemy whether you 
like it or not.Buganda was not ready to sacrifice itself to be 
slaughtered by the colonialists, as they did to Native Americans 
and Zulus.There is more to life than acting as sacrifices to 
invaders.This should explain to you why Buganda hosts the largest 
single tribe/nation in Uganda.Human sacrifices have never worked 
for critical thinkers!Self preservation is the only way to allow 
the continuity of humanity. 
 
 Luweero massacres.This mad man Museveni is no different from 
the colonialists.You get in his way, he slaughters you without 
any mercy.He did the same in Luweero, were civilians were caught 
in between Obote's brutal forceful gov't and the NRA rebels.Obote 
forced the civilians to turn against the NRA rebels by killing and 
brutalizing them (civilia

Re: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin

2004-03-07 Thread Edward Mulindwa



Yao

You are explaining a very critical issue to a very 
uncritical mind. Ssenyange as many Baganda look at Uganda politics in such a 
narrow way. Museveni taped into that mind and he will die a president in 
Uganda.
To Ssenyange what is important is that his Kabaka 
went to Rwakitura and with a helicopter from Museveni. That is enough and that 
can make the Ssenyange's of our days happy and fail to even see the bold 
mistake/s Museveni and UPDF does. Eh munange oli Museveni waffe yawadde Mutebi 
enyonyi. That is why Museveni will use Buganda all along, right from Luwero war 
to today. It is the political immaturity which obote classified as ignorance 
that is eating up my part of the country. The Ssenyange's in Mengo have for 
example just figured out that what Museveni gave them was byooya byanswa, just 
figured it out !!!

That is why I say that Ugandans must acknowledge 
this loop hole we have in Buganda, and start to build Uganda as a 
nation.

Em


The Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is 
in 
anarchy" 
Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans 
l'anarchie"

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Y Yaobang 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 8:32 
PM
  Subject: Re: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 
  Cows To Obote Kin
  
  
  
  J. Ssenyange:
  Dictator Museveni is a very crafty son-of-a-bitch. He invites the Kabaka to 
  rwakitura, pays for all his expenses to come to rwakitura(central government 
  expense), gives him the 50 cows, and then later, bang!-- he SPITS on the 
  Kabaka: the dictator warned the Kabaka not to meddle in politics, and to leave 
  itto "us the bakopi". Remember? He does that all the time to all the 
  inept political opportunists who cross his path, including, 
  unfortunately,your Mutebi II.
  y
  From: "ssenya nyange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Subject: Re: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin 
  Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 16:54:25 -0500 
   
   
  Mulindwa, 
   
   By 
  simple logic, If I know that you want to come ( visit) 
  to my home to beg, I WILL BE VERY STUPID TO SEND YOU LIMOS AND 
  HELICOPTORS TO TRANSPORT YOU TO MY HOME AND BACK. In other 
  words, It 
  would be very stupid of Mu7 to transport Kabaka by presidential 

  helicoptors to Rwakitura if the purpose of the visit is known 
  to be 
  begging. Lastly, who requests for a visit? Kabaka or Mu7? 
   
  J. Ssenyange 
  -- 
   
   
  From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Subject: Re: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin 
  Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 20:56:00 -0500 
   
  But why does Kabaka go to Rwakitura to beg? 
   
  The very nonsense I do not respond to. 
   
  Em 
   
   
  The Mulindwas Communication Group 
  "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" 
   
  Groupe de communication Mulindwas 
  "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" 
   
   - Original Message - 
   From: ssenya nyange 
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 6:52 PM 
   Subject: RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To 
  Obote Kin 
   
   
   
   Yaobang, 
   
   
  How does Kabaka come into your equation? Kabaka 
  does not beg 
   or request for your information. 
   Who ever wants to donate will donate freely. 
  Who ever does not 
  want to 
   donate is not requested by Kabaka to donate. 
  However, his 
  subjects and 
   officials can request for donations to help 
  Kabaka's projects. 
  His assets 
   alone generate more revenue than the 
  president's "official" 
  income. The 
   difference is that Kabaka wants to share it 
  with his subjects 
  unlike Mu7 who 
   wants to "milk" his subjects without "feeding" 
  them.Mu7 gave 
  those cows to 
   Kabaka as gifts just like any other Ugandan. 
  Even non Ugandans ( 
  e.g 
   Bazungu) have been pictured in newspapers 
  kneeling while 
  donating to Kabaka 
   ( after marrying Baganda women) as a sign of 
  respect to the 
  Institution of 
   Kabakaship. All this is done to show respect 
  to the Instituion 
  of Kabakaship 
   which is represented by Mutebi 11, ( not to 
  Mutebi as a person). 
  GET THE 
   DIFFERENCE. 
   
   
   Ssenyange 
   
  -- 
   
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   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Subject: RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 
  Cows To Obote Kin 
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2004-03-07 Thread ssenya nyange
Yaobang,

I think you're dreming mu7 every day. Proove that I 
mentioned mu7 any where, in that email. Proove that I wrote any sentence 
supporting him. Supporting Mu7= supporting Obote. Mu7 is the top graduate of 
Obote's groomed cadres.Mu7 is continuing from Where Obote stopped i.e 
looting minerals from Congo; genocide in enemy regions; pegion holes 
constitutions; imprisonment without trials; silencing political parties; no 
freedon of speech; impoverishing Buganda; rule of the gun; never to be 
trusted; ruthless; blood thirsty etc.

Ssenyange

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J. Ssenyange,
From what I'm told, you are a very smart man. Why do you spew shit like this, in support of Museveni? Museveni will die, why do you want to ruin your future with such statements?We'll forgive, but we will never forget!
yFrom: "ssenya nyange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin 
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 17:15:40 -0500 
 
 
Mulindwa, 
 
 Just continue giving your vote to your man OBOTE. He 
will continue ruling you even in exile, by sustaining you with 
frequent hand outs. FORGET ABOUT OBOTE RULING BUGANDA\ UGANDA AGAIN. 
 
J. Ssenyange 
 
 
 
From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin 
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 09:41:40 -0500 
 
Buganda can never move ahead again until when Uganda gets a 
nationalistic president as Obote, who develops all Uganda areas 
equally. Does Uganda have a chance to get such a leader again 
today? No not on a nation which has Ssebagala as the best out there 
to look at. The developments in Buganda including Hospitals, 
Schools, job creation on and on stopped at the exit of Obote from 
Uganda politics. One can not help but wonder how Buganda has even 
failed to clear her own roads of Bulungi Bwansi, a project they 
would even do by their own hoes. What value is Mengo? 
Em 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Lisa Toro 
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 7:20 AM 
 Subject: Re: [Ugandacom] Re: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin 
 
 
 Rehema Mukooza . 
 
 Present me the evidence, that is howsome of you Bagandans 
conieved with Museveni in Killing you own Kayirra in the name of 
elections were rigged! you are so blind that you only sport a goat 
from a far and not see an hayena at your foot !!! . The Baganda 
peasantry should takes control and su[pport of thier Kingdom and 
destinyrather than leaving it to some of this opportunists 
beatting thier seasonal drums to any order of the day and claiming 
latter they are not part of it. 
 
Your are squarely responsible for impossing Museveni and the 
NRA/M killers on Banganda and Ugandans with all the blood let, take 
responsiblility. The sooner the kingdom and the peasantry weed out 
these flees the sooner Buganda and Uganda will move a head. 
 
 Toro 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Rehema Mukooza 
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 4:31 AM 
 Subject: [Ugandacom] Re: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin 
 
 
 Toro: 
 
 Some of you including Obote have never always meant well for 
the future of Uganda.What is the future of Uganda??May I ask? 
Obote has never worked for the future of democracy in Uganda.He 
banned political parties and ridged elections.I want you to be 
sensible enough to acknowledge that.Do not let your imagination 
run wild! 
 
 Museveni and his NRA are thugs and murderers, any sensible 
person knows that.There is nothing new you are informing me about 
the dictator in charge today! 
 
 What "future holes" am I digging by speaking the truth about 
Obote??What actually do you mean by that??Should I take the 
"future holes" for a future revenge against Buganda and her 
Kingdom??I personaly, think that this kind of garbage you are 
blutting out is indeed a product of denial and lack of focus on 
real issues. 
 
 If you knew better than you know now, you would find out who 
is truelly digging the future holes you are talking about.He is 
none other than the thug, Museveni!He has made enemies out of our 
neighbors surrounding Uganda and in Uganda.Blame Museveni, do not 
even start with me, or Buganda and her Kabaka. 
 
 Now, let me teach you about some things in history and life as 
in general.The 

Re: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote \ Yaobang @ Mulindwa

2004-03-07 Thread ssenya nyange


Yaobang,

 Do you think the majority of Baganda ( including me ) want Kabaka 
Mutebi to be invited ( actually SUMMONING)?.  You cannot summon a Kabaka as 
per tradition. Do you know why the late Ben Kiwanuka was hated by Baganda? 
Its because while he was a prime Minister, he summoned or invited Kabaka 
to meet him ( Ben) at his residence or office. Ben was a Muganda who knew 
it. Because Kabaka does not have powers, he is held at runsom \ gun point 
by Mu7. You know what happened to Dr. Kayiira, DP's Ssekweyama etc. So long 
as Kabaka is in Uganda with no powers, he can be summoned at any time by the 
ruling president. This is what we want to reverse. This is against our 
culture. He's is the head of all Ganda clan leaders ( Ssabataka) no matter 
what. Rediculing him tantamount to rediculing all the Baganda who belong to 
the 52 clans.Thats why want a share of political powers, NOT deligated 
cultural powers.  Watch with your eyes, we shall be there.

Ssenyange
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J. Ssenyange:
Dictator Museveni is a very crafty son-of-a-bitch. He invites the Kabaka to rwakitura, pays for all his expenses to come to rwakitura(central government expense), gives him the 50 cows, and then later, bang!-- he SPITS on the Kabaka: the dictator warned the Kabaka not to meddle in politics, and to leave itto "us the bakopi". Remember? He does that all the time to all the inept political opportunists who cross his path, including, unfortunately,your Mutebi II.
y
From: "ssenya nyange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Re: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin 
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 16:54:25 -0500 
 
 
Mulindwa, 
 
 By simple logic, If I know that you want to come ( visit) 
to my home to beg, I WILL BE VERY STUPID TO SEND YOU LIMOS AND 
HELICOPTORS TO TRANSPORT YOU TO MY HOME AND BACK. In other words, It 
would be very stupid of Mu7 to transport Kabaka by presidential 
helicoptors to Rwakitura if the purpose of the visit is known to be 
begging. Lastly, who requests for a visit? Kabaka or Mu7? 
 
J. Ssenyange 
-- 
 
 
From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin 
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 20:56:00 -0500 
 
But why does Kabaka go to Rwakitura to beg? 
 
The very nonsense I do not respond to. 
 
Em 
 
 
The Mulindwas Communication Group 
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" 
 Groupe de communication Mulindwas 
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: ssenya nyange 
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 6:52 PM 
 Subject: RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin 
 
 
 
 Yaobang, 
 
 How does Kabaka come into your equation? Kabaka 
does not beg 
 or request for your information. 
 Who ever wants to donate will donate freely. Who ever does not 
want to 
 donate is not requested by Kabaka to donate. However, his 
subjects and 
 officials can request for donations to help Kabaka's projects. 
His assets 
 alone generate more revenue than the president's "official" 
income. The 
 difference is that Kabaka wants to share it with his subjects 
unlike Mu7 who 
 wants to "milk" his subjects without "feeding" them.Mu7 gave 
those cows to 
 Kabaka as gifts just like any other Ugandan. Even non Ugandans ( 
e.g 
 Bazungu) have been pictured in newspapers kneeling while 
donating to Kabaka 
 ( after marrying Baganda women) as a sign of respect to the 
Institution of 
 Kabakaship. All this is done to show respect to the Instituion 
of Kabakaship 
 which is represented by Mutebi 11, ( not to Mutebi as a person). 
GET THE 
 DIFFERENCE. 
 
 
 Ssenyange 
 -- 
 
 From: "Y Yaobang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
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2004-03-07 Thread Edward Mulindwa
Which brings me to the next question, who has more support in Buganda today,
Kabaka Mutebi or President Museveni?

Em


 The Mulindwas Communication Group
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Subject: Re: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote \ Yaobang @ Mulindwa




 Yaobang,

   Do you think the majority of Baganda ( including me ) want
Kabaka
 Mutebi to be invited ( actually SUMMONING)?.  You cannot summon a Kabaka
as
 per tradition. Do you know why the late Ben Kiwanuka was hated by Baganda?
 Its because while he was a prime Minister, he summoned or invited Kabaka
 to meet him ( Ben) at his residence or office. Ben was a Muganda who knew
 it. Because Kabaka does not have powers, he is held at runsom \ gun
point
 by Mu7. You know what happened to Dr. Kayiira, DP's Ssekweyama etc. So
long
 as Kabaka is in Uganda with no powers, he can be summoned at any time by
the
 ruling president. This is what we want to reverse. This is against our
 culture. He's is the head of all Ganda clan leaders ( Ssabataka) no matter
 what. Rediculing him tantamount to rediculing all the Baganda who belong
to
 the 52 clans.Thats why want a share of political powers, NOT deligated
 cultural powers.  Watch with your eyes, we shall be there.

 Ssenyange
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Re: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin

2004-03-06 Thread Rehema Mukooza

Oracha:

In your ignorance, stupidity, childish-nature, not all people on Ugandanet are non-Baganda! Now, I want to know how "I don't know what I'm doing"?? I do not see anything wrong with talking about Buganda/Kabaka, a part of Uganda and discussing its cultural values and politics. Everyone here talks about other regions, why should Inot talk about Buganda/Kabaka?? I'll be damned to ignore the mother soil and her Kabaka. 

Again: What is it that "I don't know what I'm doing"?? Just point out things in my previous email which "I don't know what I'm doing" or talking about. 

Obote tried to "buy" Ankole, Bunyoro, Tooro, and Busoga monarchies with money and all these monarchies agreed to get the cash. Buganda refused this silly "buying", her Kabaka was exiled, and the seasonal leader (Obote) tried to appoint a prince to take over. Buganda was (is) not stupid as the temporaly dictator thought it would be (is). Boote's season is no more! That's what we call the old rug whose time is outdated.

No matter how much folks here will not agree with me, I'll continue to point it out to you that theKabakaship / Bugandaare survivors. A new regime comes around, and the rules of survival kick in. So, whoever thinks that Museveni is "buying" the Kabaka is indeed wrong! The Kabakaship is to continue after the death of Museveni. 

Buganda can not avoid interactions with the central gov't or any president in power. By the way, "interactions" do not mean "buying". Make that clear in your thinking. Ever since Buganda's capital city, Kampalawas made Uganda's, the avoidance is impossible to happen. If anyone thought that Buganda would break the cord with the gov'ts in power, that is fantasia. Unless, of course if the whole of Uganda offers another city to serve as the capital city of Uganda to separate and avoid these interactions between Buganda and gov'ts in power. Until then, there is nothing anyone can do about this. 

Obote made these "interactions" only to come out burned! Poor, stupid, fellow! Amin did the same, and see the outcome. Okello's Junta militia did the same, Museveni swept into the interactions and established himself a dictator. Every overthrow or takeover that has happened in Uganda is sealed by capturing Buganda's capital city, Kampala and her Entebbe city. 

With all this nonsense that power hungry dictators (past, present, future)have done, you mean to tell me that not all readers on Ugandanet are not interested in Buganda?? This is how stupid and childish you can get! I do not care if "not all members of ugandanet are Baganda", the truth is that non-Baganda have interests in Buganda at least for as long as it hosts the capital city. 

I personally would want to know which Ugandan does not have an interest in Buganda. The LRA does have one. Obote, Amin, Okello, Mu7, etc had (have) one. And this silly business of people talking about Federo becoming Bugandanized is as stupid and unfocused as they get. If someone wants to take Buganda out of the limelight, he/she will have to move the capital city to some other part of Uganda, and leave Buganda(Kampala) alone.

To show you how stupid and childish Ugandans have become. Buganda (Kampala) was declared as a none part of Buganda, it was declared part of Uganda instead. One wonders that is Buganda not Uganda?? All I can caution you about is that interests in Buganda by all Ugandans is undeniable. The sooner we realize that the better off Uganda shall be. As long as "not allreaders on Ugandanet are Baganda" butwith interests in Buganda, I shall continue to talk about Buganda and singling it out here. Like it or not! 

Let me hope that you are not that stupid and childish to have not already known the above points I've made.

Zakoomu R.




Zakoomu;
Now I really believe that you're really stupid or very childish or don't know what you are doing which again reflect my first observation.
Read your posting and consider that not all readers on Ugandanet are Baganda then you will see why i think your are as indicated above.

oracha[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



In a message dated 3/6/2004 12:54:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Yaobang, 

Buying Obote for what?? Obote can not function at his age! He is of no use to any thinking Ugandan who is looking forward to the future. The Kabaka will never be "bought"; he stays, president after president. Who ever thinks so, is indeed misguided and misinformed, like Obote. You can never ever buy a Kabaka. 

Obote tried it once, when he offered money to the Ankole, Bunyoro, Tooro, and Busoga monarchies in order to ban them real good, but the Kabaka of Bugandarefused and he was exiled. Obote even wanted to chose who among the princes should take over after Kabaka Muteesa was exiled. Wrong decision - Poor, stupid, Obote! 

My advice to the anti-Kabaka camps is that, the monarchy of 

Re: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin

2004-03-06 Thread okello
"Ever since Buganda's capital city, Kampalawas made Uganda's, the avoidance is impossible to happen. If anyone thought that Buganda would break the cord with the gov'ts in power, that is fantasia. Unless, of course if the whole of Uganda offers another city to serve as the capital city of Uganda to separate and avoid these interactions between Buganda and gov'ts in power. Until then, there is nothing anyone can do about this. 

Obote made these "interactions" only to come out burned! Poor, stupid, fellow! Amin did the same, and see the outcome. Okello's Junta militia did the same, Museveni swept into the interactions and established himself a dictator. Every overthrow or takeover that has happened in Uganda is sealed by capturing Buganda's capital city, Kampala and her Entebbe city."

Rehema Mukooza, 
Don't you think other Ugandans also paid taxes that contributed significantly in building these cities now you called "Buganda's capital city, Kampala and her Entebbe city."?

BTW, I thought you were a Munyoro? I guess I was wrong.
Rehema Mukooza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Oracha:

In your ignorance, stupidity, childish-nature, not all people on Ugandanet are non-Baganda! Now, I want to know how "I don't know what I'm doing"?? I do not see anything wrong with talking about Buganda/Kabaka, a part of Uganda and discussing its cultural values and politics. Everyone here talks about other regions, why should Inot talk about Buganda/Kabaka?? I'll be damned to ignore the mother soil and her Kabaka. 

Again: What is it that "I don't know what I'm doing"?? Just point out things in my previous email which "I don't know what I'm doing" or talking about. 

Obote tried to "buy" Ankole, Bunyoro, Tooro, and Busoga monarchies with money and all these monarchies agreed to get the cash. Buganda refused this silly "buying", her Kabaka was exiled, and the seasonal leader (Obote) tried to appoint a prince to take over. Buganda was (is) not stupid as the temporaly dictator thought it would be (is). Boote's season is no more! That's what we call the old rug whose time is outdated.

No matter how much folks here will not agree with me, I'll continue to point it out to you that theKabakaship / Bugandaare survivors. A new regime comes around, and the rules of survival kick in. So, whoever thinks that Museveni is "buying" the Kabaka is indeed wrong! The Kabakaship is to continue after the death of Museveni. 

Buganda can not avoid interactions with the central gov't or any president in power. By the way, "interactions" do not mean "buying". Make that clear in your thinking. Ever since Buganda's capital city, Kampalawas made Uganda's, the avoidance is impossible to happen. If anyone thought that Buganda would break the cord with the gov'ts in power, that is fantasia. Unless, of course if the whole of Uganda offers another city to serve as the capital city of Uganda to separate and avoid these interactions between Buganda and gov'ts in power. Until then, there is nothing anyone can do about this. 

Obote made these "interactions" only to come out burned! Poor, stupid, fellow! Amin did the same, and see the outcome. Okello's Junta militia did the same, Museveni swept into the interactions and established himself a dictator. Every overthrow or takeover that has happened in Uganda is sealed by capturing Buganda's capital city, Kampala and her Entebbe city. 

With all this nonsense that power hungry dictators (past, present, future)have done, you mean to tell me that not all readers on Ugandanet are not interested in Buganda?? This is how stupid and childish you can get! I do not care if "not all members of ugandanet are Baganda", the truth is that non-Baganda have interests in Buganda at least for as long as it hosts the capital city. 

I personally would want to know which Ugandan does not have an interest in Buganda. The LRA does have one. Obote, Amin, Okello, Mu7, etc had (have) one. And this silly business of people talking about Federo becoming Bugandanized is as stupid and unfocused as they get. If someone wants to take Buganda out of the limelight, he/she will have to move the capital city to some other part of Uganda, and leave Buganda(Kampala) alone.

To show you how stupid and childish Ugandans have become. Buganda (Kampala) was declared as a none part of Buganda, it was declared part of Uganda instead. One wonders that is Buganda not Uganda?? All I can caution you about is that interests in Buganda by all Ugandans is undeniable. The sooner we realize that the better off Uganda shall be. As long as "not allreaders on Ugandanet are Baganda" butwith interests in Buganda, I shall continue to talk about Buganda and singling it out here. Like it or not! 

Let me hope that you are not that stupid and childish to have not already known the above points I've made.

Zakoomu R.




Zakoomu;
Now I really believe 

Re: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin

2004-03-06 Thread Lisa Toro



Yaobang and others,

How many cows did the Misevenis and NRA take from Dr. 
Obote's home when they killed his frail father? How many did they takes from 
Obote's relatives and indeed the whole area plus district!. You will be more 
stupid to say it is 25 Cows. Infact they are harrassing and intimidating 
the Obotes brother then shout that theygave 25 blood cows! Those NRM 
vultures NEVER GET ENOUGH, ONLY GOD WILL STOP THEM.

 Rehema Mukooza whatever garbage you are 
talking about, some of usincluding Obote have always mean well 
forthe future of Ugandans but your are busy digging future holes! But then 
again Ugandan sellers have always perferred to work with colonialist , 
imperialist etc etc and once more they have to keep the system 
going.

Toro




  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Rehema Mukooza 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 5:50 
  AM
  Subject: RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 
  Cows To Obote Kin
  
  Yaobang, 
  
  Buying Obote for what?? Obote can not function at his age! He 
  is of no use to any thinking Ugandan who is looking forward to the 
  future. The Kabaka will never be "bought"; he stays, president after 
  president. Who ever thinks so, is indeed misguided and misinformed, like 
  Obote. You can never ever buy a Kabaka. 
  
  Obote tried it once, when he offered money to the Ankole, Bunyoro, Tooro, 
  and Busoga monarchies in order to ban them real good, but the Kabaka of 
  Bugandarefused and he was exiled. Obote even wanted to chose who 
  among the princes should take over after Kabaka Muteesa was exiled. 
  Wrong decision - Poor, stupid, Obote! 
  
  My advice to the anti-Kabaka camps is that, the monarchy of Buganda shall 
  exist no matter what. The monarchy has already proved resilient towards 
  blows (Obote, Amin). People, ya'll better use that energy of yours on 
  something else and leave the Kabaka alone. The Kabaka has us regular 
  folks to back him up no matter what. That is how strong an alliagence 
  can be to our King(s), present and future. 
  
  Some politicians like Obote, Museveni might think that they are "buying" 
  the Kabaka, but in reality they are to move out and our Prince (Kabaka) is to 
  stay in. A monarchy is a monarchy, unlike seasonal political leadership 
  i.e Obote, Mu7. Mr. Yaobang, come up with a better example of folks 
  being 'bought' by cows or money. I don't know why you people don't 
  understand that Buganda and her Kabakaship are inseparatable. "Buying" 
  something that will never go away, that has always existed is a sick example 
  of how some Ugandans will never get it.
  
  Zakoomu R.Y Yaobang [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  


J Ssemakula,
Unlike your Kabaka, Obote cannot be bought with 25 cows, or any other 
bribe!
y
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Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin
By Patrick Opio PRESIDENT Yoweri Museveni has donated 25 heifers 
to the family of exiled former president Milton Obotes brother, Obadiah 
Akaki. Akaki, 80, Obotes elder brother said he received the cows 
through state minister for wildlife and antiquities Jovino Akaki-Ayumu, his 
clansman. He said in an interview at his home at Abeibuti village, 
Akokoro sub-county, Apac, recently that the cattle provide him with plenty 
of milk. He said he supplies the milk to the local community for 
money. My family now harvests a good amount of milk daily. We 
consume part of it and sell the rest to people in the neighbourhood, he 
said. Museveni gave Akaki sh10m when he visited his home in 
September 9, 2000. He then promised to donate heifers for milk 
production to the family. Akaki said Museveni sent drugs for the 
animals. He said the district veterinary officers help him control vectors 
such as tsetse flies and ticks by reg ularly spraying and dipping the 
animals. He praised minister Akaki-Ayumu for linking him with 
Museveni. With Akakis efforts, Museveni was able to visit 
us and consequently donated money and cattle to the family, Obadiah said. 
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RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin

2004-03-06 Thread Y Yaobang

Rehema Mukooza,
How soon you forget! Dictator Museveni gave 50 cows toKabaka Mutebi sometime ago: I believe it was just before or after the presidential elections of 2001? Was that not bribery??
y
From: Rehema Mukooza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin 
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 21:50:53 -0800 (PST) 
 
Yaobang, 
 
Buying Obote for what??Obote can not function at his age!He is of no use to any thinking Ugandan who is looking forward to the future.The Kabaka will never be "bought"; he stays, president after president.Who ever thinks so, is indeed misguided and misinformed, like Obote.You can never ever buy a Kabaka. 
 
Obote tried it once, when he offered money to the Ankole, Bunyoro, Tooro, and Busoga monarchies in order to ban them real good, but the Kabaka of Buganda refused and he was exiled.Obote even wanted to chose who among the princes should take over after Kabaka Muteesa was exiled.Wrong decision - Poor, stupid, Obote! 
 
My advice to the anti-Kabaka camps is that, the monarchy of Buganda shall exist no matter what.The monarchy has already proved resilient towards blows (Obote, Amin).People, ya'll better use that energy of yours on something else and leave the Kabaka alone.The Kabaka has us regular folks to back him up no matter what.That is how strong an alliagence can be to our King(s), present and future. 
 
Some politicians like Obote, Museveni might think that they are "buying" the Kabaka, but in reality they are to move out and our Prince (Kabaka) is to stay in.A monarchy is a monarchy, unlike seasonal political leadership i.e Obote, Mu7.Mr. Yaobang, come up with a better example of folks being 'bought' by cows or money.I don't know why you people don't understand that Buganda and her Kabakaship are inseparatable."Buying" something that will never go away, that has always existed is a sick example of how some Ugandans will never get it. 
 
Zakoomu R. 
 
Y Yaobang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: 
 
J Ssemakula, 
 
Unlike your Kabaka, Obote cannot be bought with 25 cows, or any other bribe! 
 
y 
 
 
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Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin 
 
By Patrick Opio 
 
PRESIDENT Yoweri Museveni has donated 25 heifers to the family of exiled former president Milton Obote’s brother, Obadiah Akaki. 
 
Akaki, 80, Obote’s elder brother said he received the cows through state minister for wildlife and antiquities Jovino Akaki-Ayumu, his clansman. 
 
He said in an interview at his home at Abeibuti village, Akokoro sub-county, Apac, recently that the cattle provide him with plenty of milk. 
 
He said he supplies the milk to the local community for money. 
 
“My family now harvests a good amount of milk daily. We consume part of it and sell the rest to people in the neighbourhood,” he said. 
 
Museveni gave Akaki sh10m when he visited his home in September 9, 2000. 
 
He then promised to donate heifers for milk production to the family. 
 
Akaki said Museveni sent drugs for the animals. He said the district veterinary officers help him control vectors such as tsetse flies and ticks by reg ularly spraying and dipping the animals. 
 
He praised minister Akaki-Ayumu for linking him with Museveni. 
 
“With Akaki’s efforts, Museveni was able to visit us and consequently donated money and cattle to the family,” Obadiah said. 
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RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin

2004-03-06 Thread ssenya nyange
Yaobang,

 How does Kabaka come into your equation? Kabaka does not beg 
or request for your information.
Who ever wants to donate will donate freely. Who ever does not want to 
donate is not requested by Kabaka to donate. However, his subjects and 
officials can request for donations to help Kabaka's projects. His assets 
alone generate more revenue than the president's official income. The 
difference is that Kabaka wants to share it with his subjects unlike Mu7 who 
wants to milk his subjects without feeding them.  Mu7 gave those cows to 
Kabaka as gifts just like any other Ugandan. Even non Ugandans ( e.g 
Bazungu) have been pictured in newspapers kneeling while donating to Kabaka 
( after marrying Baganda women) as a sign of respect to the Institution of 
Kabakaship. All this is done to show respect to the Instituion of Kabakaship 
which is represented by Mutebi 11, ( not to Mutebi as a person). GET THE 
DIFFERENCE.

Ssenyange
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J Ssemakula,
Unlike your Kabaka, Obote cannot be bought with 25 cows, or any other bribe!
y
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Re: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin

2004-03-06 Thread Edward Mulindwa



But why does Kabaka go to Rwakitura to 
beg?

The very nonsense I do not respond to.

Em


The Mulindwas Communication Group"With 
Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in 
anarchy" 
Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans 
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  Cows To Obote Kin
  Yaobang, 
  How does Kabaka come into your equation? Kabaka does not beg or request 
  for your information.Who ever wants to donate will donate freely. Who ever 
  does not want to donate is not requested by Kabaka to donate. However, his 
  subjects and officials can request for donations to help Kabaka's 
  projects. His assets alone generate more revenue than the president's 
  "official" income. The difference is that Kabaka wants to share it with 
  his subjects unlike Mu7 who wants to "milk" his subjects without "feeding" 
  them. Mu7 gave those cows to Kabaka as gifts just like any other 
  Ugandan. Even non Ugandans ( e.g Bazungu) have been pictured in newspapers 
  kneeling while donating to Kabaka ( after marrying Baganda women) as a 
  sign of respect to the Institution of Kabakaship. All this is done to show 
  respect to the Instituion of Kabakaship which is represented by Mutebi 11, 
  ( not to Mutebi as a person). GET THE 
  DIFFERENCE.Ssenyange--From: 
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  J Ssemakula,
  Unlike your Kabaka, Obote cannot be bought with 25 cows, or any other 
  bribe!
  y
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RE: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin

2004-03-05 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Yaobang, 

Buying Obote for what?? Obote can not function at his age! He is of no use to any thinking Ugandan who is looking forward to the future. The Kabaka will never be "bought"; he stays, president after president. Who ever thinks so, is indeed misguided and misinformed, like Obote. You can never ever buy a Kabaka. 

Obote tried it once, when he offered money to the Ankole, Bunyoro, Tooro, and Busoga monarchies in order to ban them real good, but the Kabaka of Bugandarefused and he was exiled. Obote even wanted to chose who among the princes should take over after Kabaka Muteesa was exiled. Wrong decision - Poor, stupid, Obote! 

My advice to the anti-Kabaka camps is that, the monarchy of Buganda shall exist no matter what. The monarchy has already proved resilient towards blows (Obote, Amin). People, ya'll better use that energy of yours on something else and leave the Kabaka alone. The Kabaka has us regular folks to back him up no matter what. That is how strong an alliagence can be to our King(s), present and future. 

Some politicians like Obote, Museveni might think that they are "buying" the Kabaka, but in reality they are to move out and our Prince (Kabaka) is to stay in. A monarchy is a monarchy, unlike seasonal political leadership i.e Obote, Mu7. Mr. Yaobang, come up with a better example of folks being 'bought' by cows or money. I don't know why you people don't understand that Buganda and her Kabakaship are inseparatable. "Buying" something that will never go away, that has always existed is a sick example of how some Ugandans will never get it.

Zakoomu R.Y Yaobang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



J Ssemakula,
Unlike your Kabaka, Obote cannot be bought with 25 cows, or any other bribe!
y
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Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin
By Patrick Opio PRESIDENT Yoweri Museveni has donated 25 heifers to the family of exiled former president Milton Obote’s brother, Obadiah Akaki. Akaki, 80, Obote’s elder brother said he received the cows through state minister for wildlife and antiquities Jovino Akaki-Ayumu, his clansman. He said in an interview at his home at Abeibuti village, Akokoro sub-county, Apac, recently that the cattle provide him with plenty of milk. He said he supplies the milk to the local community for money. “My family now harvests a good amount of milk daily. We consume part of it and sell the rest to people in the neighbourhood,” he said. Museveni gave Akaki sh10m when he visited his home in September 9, 2000. He then promised to donate heifers for milk production to the family. Akaki said Museveni sent drugs for the animals. He said the district veterinary officers help him control vectors such as tsetse flies and ticks by reg
  ularly
 spraying and dipping the animals. He praised minister Akaki-Ayumu for linking him with Museveni. “With Akaki’s efforts, Museveni was able to visit us and consequently donated money and cattle to the family,” Obadiah said. Ends
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Re: ugnet_: Museveni Gives 25 Cows To Obote Kin

2004-03-05 Thread Joracha1



In a message dated 3/6/2004 12:54:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Yaobang, 

Buying Obote for what?? Obote can not function at his age! He is of no use to any thinking Ugandan who is looking forward to the future. The Kabaka will never be "bought"; he stays, president after president. Who ever thinks so, is indeed misguided and misinformed, like Obote. You can never ever buy a Kabaka. 

Obote tried it once, when he offered money to the Ankole, Bunyoro, Tooro, and Busoga monarchies in order to ban them real good, but the Kabaka of Bugandarefused and he was exiled. Obote even wanted to chose who among the princes should take over after Kabaka Muteesa was exiled. Wrong decision - Poor, stupid, Obote! 

My advice to the anti-Kabaka camps is that, the monarchy of Buganda shall exist no matter what. The monarchy has already proved resilient towards blows (Obote, Amin). People, ya'll better use that energy of yours on something else and leave the Kabaka alone. The Kabaka has us regular folks to back him up no matter what. That is how strong an alliagence can be to our King(s), present and future. 

Some politicians like Obote, Museveni might think that they are "buying" the Kabaka, but in reality they are to move out and our Prince (Kabaka) is to stay in. A monarchy is a monarchy, unlike seasonal political leadership i.e Obote, Mu7. Mr. Yaobang, come up with a better example of folks being 'bought' by cows or money. I don't know why you people don't understand that Buganda and her Kabakaship are inseparatable. "Buying" something that will never go away, that has always existed is a sick example of how some Ugandans will never get it.

Zakoomu R.
Zakoomu;
Now I really believe that you're really stupid or very childish or don't know what you are doing which again reflect my first observation.
Read your posting and consider that not all readers on Ugandanet are Baganda then you will see why i think your are as indicated above.

oracha