Re: ugnet_: Kabaka to Meet Sudan Elders Over LRA Rebels - Vukoni

2004-01-25 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Lupa-Lasaga:

Okay, if the Kabaka traveled to W.Nile twice in the mid 90's to help draw attention to the plight of Sudanese refugees that was seriously good. The issue of the Sudanese refugees in W.Nile is different from the situation in the "internally displaced people'srefugee camps" of Ugandans in Uganda being looted and killed by armed gangs while the UPDF is looking the other way.

1st. the Sudanese left their country because of the southern Sudan war and came to Uganda for safety.
2nd. West Nile is not as aviolent placeas compared toAcholi, Lango, Itesointerms of LRA activities. Go figure that out yourself.
3rd. People in Acholi and Lango are being attacked from within Uganda in camps which they are said to be 'protected' by the UPDF.
4th. Weigh the situation of Sudanese refugees in Ugandaand that of Ugandans in the North Eastern.

If West Nile is more of a safe place to visit than let's say Acholi, Lango, I would advise the King for security matters not to dare step his feet in Acholi or Lango and yet I'd advise him to visit a more safer West Nile. Security matters in these things. I know our King is smart, he can see through all these things and decide on what steps to take.

I salute the KING for talking P-E-A-CE. Do you have anymore empty criticism??

Zakoomu R.
Vukoni Lupa-Lasaga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Zakoomu,What do I gain from making this up? Ask those who know and they will tell you (e.g. the Kabaka's press secretary). The Kabaka traveled to West Nile twice (if my memory serves me right) in the mid-90's to help draw attention to the plight of Sudanese refugees. Newspaper or TV accounts must still exist.vukonips. Please try to at least spell my name correctly. It doesn't reflect very well on your grasp of facts or courtesy.At 07:54 PM 1/24/2004 -0800, you wrote:Lasanga:The King has not (to my knowledge) traveled to the refugee camps in northern Uganda to show solidarity with the residents who were and are being looted and killed by armed groups as our own UPDF looked the other way.My question to you is: If the residents in refugee camps are not safe with
  the
 UPDF looking the other way when armed groups loot and killed them, what makes you sure our King will not be looted and killed as our UPDF is looking the other way??Due to security reasons, I don't think the King will travel to the refugee camps! It's sad but true. The King has no Kabakaship Guard Brigade (like Mu7) to beep up security on his visits to the refugee. If you have been following the events, you would have found out by now that the King is given limited security by the UPDF.If it is the same UPDF that is looking the other way when civilians are attacked by armed groups, and it is the same arm 'guarding' the King, I suppose that same UPDF will look the other way as the King will be attacked by armed groups.I personally would advise the King not to dare go to the refugee camps with this same UPDF as his security guards if he wants his life.
  The
 King is not a fool, he can see through all this UPDF mess! The King should communicate with civilians in refugee camps and help with deplomatic peace talks to end the war, as He (King) is doing now. I salute him for his goodwill to all Ugandans.There is alot the King can contribute to help end the war and this suffering without physically visiting the unprotected refugee camps in the north. What do you think?? Do you think everything has to be physical in order to make an impact?? Wake up to reality.Zakoomu R.
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Re: ugnet_: Kabaka to Meet Sudan Elders Over LRA Rebels - Vukoni

2004-01-25 Thread Vukoni Lupa-Lasaga
Dear sister Zakoomu,

Far from criticizing the Kabaka's action regarding the plight of those in 
the displaced people's camp in the north, I actually applauded it.

But I do understand.  You're in attack mode, and regardless of what I say, 
I'm damned.  Fortunately, I'm wearing body armor, so I only feel a little 
pain where the bullet you fired  struck!!!  .-)

vukoni

At 03:39 PM 1/25/2004 -0800, you wrote:

Lupa-Lasaga:

Okay, if the Kabaka traveled to W.Nile twice in the mid 90's to help draw 
attention to the plight of Sudanese refugees that was seriously good.  The 
issue of the Sudanese refugees in W.Nile is different from the situation 
in the internally displaced people's refugee camps of Ugandans in Uganda 
being looted and killed by armed gangs while the UPDF is looking the other way.

1st.  the Sudanese left their country because of the southern Sudan war 
and came to Uganda for safety.
2nd.  West Nile is not as a violent place as compared to Acholi, Lango, 
Iteso interms of LRA activities.  Go figure that out yourself.
3rd.  People in Acholi and Lango are being attacked from within Uganda in 
camps which they are said to be 'protected' by the UPDF.
4th.  Weigh the situation of Sudanese refugees in Uganda and that of 
Ugandans in the North Eastern.

If West Nile is more of a safe place to visit than let's say Acholi, 
Lango, I would advise the King for security matters not to dare step his 
feet in Acholi or Lango and yet I'd advise him to visit a more safer West 
Nile.  Security matters in these things.  I know our King is smart, he can 
see through all these things and decide on what steps to take.

I salute the KING for talking P-E-A-CE.  Do you have anymore empty criticism??

Zakoomu R.

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Re: ugnet_: Kabaka to Meet Sudan Elders Over LRA Rebels - Vukoni

2004-01-25 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Hahahaha, you've got alot of comedy talk! Maybe you can become a cartoon with your body armor while I'm shooting! Aahahah, I'm just joking. So, what was your point?Vukoni Lupa-Lasaga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear sister Zakoomu,Far from criticizing the Kabaka's action regarding the plight of those in the displaced people's camp in the north, I actually applauded it.But I do understand. You're in attack mode, and regardless of what I say, I'm damned. Fortunately, I'm wearing body armor, so I only feel a little pain where the bullet you fired struck!!! .-)vukoniAt 03:39 PM 1/25/2004 -0800, you wrote:Lupa-Lasaga:Okay, if the Kabaka traveled to W.Nile twice in the mid 90's to help draw attention to the plight of Sudanese refugees that was seriously good. The issue of the Sudanese refugees in W.Nile is different from the situation in the "internally displaced people's refugee camps" of Ugandans in Uganda being looted and killed by armed gangs while the UPDF is looking the other
 way.1st. the Sudanese left their country because of the southern Sudan war and came to Uganda for safety.2nd. West Nile is not as a violent place as compared to Acholi, Lango, Iteso interms of LRA activities. Go figure that out yourself.3rd. People in Acholi and Lango are being attacked from within Uganda in camps which they are said to be 'protected' by the UPDF.4th. Weigh the situation of Sudanese refugees in Uganda and that of Ugandans in the North Eastern.If West Nile is more of a safe place to visit than let's say Acholi, Lango, I would advise the King for security matters not to dare step his feet in Acholi or Lango and yet I'd advise him to visit a more safer West Nile. Security matters in these things. I know our King is smart, he can see through all these things and decide on what steps to take.I salute the KING for talking P-E-A-CE
 . Do you
 have anymore empty criticism??Zakoomu R.---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.563 / Virus Database: 355 - Release Date: 1/17/2004
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Re: ugnet_: Kabaka to Meet Sudan Elders Over LRA Rebels - Vukoni

2004-01-25 Thread Vukoni Lupa-Lasaga
Duh!

At 07:03 PM 1/25/2004 -0800, you wrote:

 So, what was your point?

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Re: ugnet_: Kabaka to Meet Sudan Elders Over LRA Rebels - Vukoni

2004-01-24 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Lasanga:

The King has not (to my knowledge) traveled to the refugee camps in northern Uganda to show solidarity with the residents who were and are being looted and killed by armed groups as our own UPDF looked the other way.

My question to you is: If the residents in refugee camps are not safe with the UPDF looking the other way when armed groups loot and killed them, what makes you sure our King will not be looted and killed as our UPDF is looking the other way??
Due to security reasons, I don't think the King will travel to the refugee camps! It's sad but true. The King has no Kabakaship Guard Brigade (like Mu7) to beep up security on his visits to the refugee. If you have been following the events, you would have found out by now that the King is given limited security by the UPDF. 
If it is the same UPDF that is looking the other way when civilians are attacked by armed groups, and it is the same arm 'guarding' the King, I suppose that same UPDF will look the other way as the King will be attacked by armed groups.
I personally would advise the King not to dare go to the refugee camps with this same UPDF as his security guardsif he wants his life. The King is not a fool, he can see through all this UPDF mess! The King should communicate with civilians in refugee camps and help with deplomatic peace talks to end the war, as He (King) is doing now. I salute him for his goodwill to all Ugandans. 
There is alot the King can contribute to help end the war and this suffering without physically visiting the unprotected refugee camps in the north. What do you think?? Do you think everything has to be physical in order to make an impact?? Wake up to reality.
Zakoomu R.
Vukoni Lupa-Lasaga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Zakoomu,If I may add other another instance of the Kabaka's goodwill: He traveled more than once to the refugee camps in northern Uganda to show solidarity with residents who were being looted and killed by armed groups as our own UPDF looked the other way.At 10:11 AM 1/23/2004 -0800, you wrote:Mulindwa:You said: "Today Ssabasajja for the first time has come out and become involved." This is a total lie and you know it. This is not the first time the King has extended his hand into trying to solve the Northern war.
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Re: ugnet_: Kabaka to Meet Sudan Elders Over LRA Rebels - Vukoni

2004-01-24 Thread Vukoni Lupa-Lasaga
Zakoomu,

What do I gain from making this up?  Ask those who know and they will tell 
you (e.g. the Kabaka's press secretary).  The Kabaka traveled to West Nile 
twice (if my memory serves me right) in the mid-90's to help draw attention 
to the plight of Sudanese refugees.  Newspaper or TV accounts must still exist.

vukoni

ps.  Please try to at least spell my name correctly.  It doesn't reflect 
very well on your grasp of facts or courtesy.

At 07:54 PM 1/24/2004 -0800, you wrote:

Lasanga:

The King has not (to my knowledge) traveled to the refugee camps in 
northern Uganda to show solidarity with the residents who were and are 
being looted and killed by armed groups as our own UPDF looked the other way.

My question to you is:  If the residents in refugee camps are not safe 
with the UPDF looking the other way when armed groups loot and killed 
them, what makes you sure our King will not be looted and killed as our 
UPDF is looking the other way??

Due to security reasons, I don't think the King will travel to the refugee 
camps!  It's sad but true.  The King has no Kabakaship Guard Brigade (like 
Mu7) to beep up security on his visits to the refugee.  If you have been 
following the events, you would have found out by now that the King is 
given limited security by the UPDF.

If it is the same UPDF that is looking the other way when civilians are 
attacked by armed groups, and it is the same arm 'guarding' the King, I 
suppose that same UPDF will look the other way as the King will be 
attacked by armed groups.

I personally would advise the King not to dare go to the refugee camps 
with this same UPDF as his security guards if he wants his life.  The King 
is not a fool, he can see through all this UPDF mess!  The King should 
communicate with civilians in refugee camps and help with deplomatic peace 
talks to end the war, as He (King) is doing now.  I salute him for his 
goodwill to all Ugandans.

There is alot the King can contribute to help end the war and this 
suffering without physically visiting the unprotected refugee camps in the 
north.  What do you think??  Do you think everything has to be physical in 
order to make an impact??  Wake up to reality.

Zakoomu R.

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