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Shami: That is a very good question. Does it turn me on seeing two men pumping each other? = Well, it captures my attention. My curiosity builds and I feel like I have to find out more about what these two men are doing to each other and gaining (pleasure). The satisfaction of knowledge I get from watching makes it fun to watch. I am a knowlegde seeker and I find fun in doing that. Watching gays have sex is among the many things I take pride in knowledge for knowing. I would say that seeing two men pump each other is fun to watch. There is also something beautiful and humane about it. In my sight, it's a symbol of humanity and sexuality. When aman throws his ego out the window and go for his innate call to experience ecstasy in its greatest and highestform, I think that isa symbol of humanity in itself. No wonder many gay men act "weak" because after touching humanity at its core, some part of the ego dies. The rest that remains is humanity and sexuality, that's what I see in gay sexual activities. You wanted to know what turns me on. What turns me on is True Romance! Hahaha... And I don't mean fake/acting romances. I don't mean flowers, candle light dinners, evenning at the beach, etc etc. I don't mean empty kissing, hugging, sucking, careressing, sex etc etc. The kind of romance that starts from Inside to the Outside and not from the Outside-In. I know True Romance when I see it and it turns me on. Now, you go figure! Zakoomu M. ===Shami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mpulidde nnyabo (I hear u loud and clear) lol!After all is said and done, would it turn you on seeing two men pumping each other? === --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rehema Mukooza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shamilah: Sometime not all situations can be termed as "for" or "against." I am not against Homosexuality and I am not for Homosexuality. I am an observer who is trying to understand Homosexuality from the core. My thirst for knowledge and understanding of taboo issues (like homosexuality) has led me to many discoveries. I am a very curious person, if you didn't know now you know. If I turn against homosexuality; How will I find the information about Homosexual sexual activities that I am looking for? Turning against Homosexual does not help my cause (knowledge) but hurt it. Nditegeera ntya era ndi manya ntya engeri gyebaryaamu ebisiyaga ne gyebabinyumirwaamu singa mba mbivumirira? Nze nnonya kumanya biffa ku bisiyaga n'obuwoomi obubirimi. Okumanya ebiffa ku bisiyaga tekyirina kyekinkosa! Nze njagala kumanya, era kaneyongereyo nerabire ku bali be bisiyaga. Loosely translated as "How will I acquire knowledge of gay sexual activities and the pleasure involved if I am against gays? I am searching for knowledge about gay sexual activities and the pleasure involved. Knowledge of that can not harm me! I want to know, and let me go do some more watching." If I turn to pro-Homosexuality, I don't think that would help society in the long run either. I would not encourage young men or women to become gays and lesbians. I am pro-fun! I think that If a man enjoys prostate/rectal pleasure, I think he should go ahead with his thing. Being anti-gays will not stop his craving and enjoyments of prostate fun. So, why make his life a living hell? Afterall, it's his life. Everyone on this earth deser ves a peacefull, enjoyable life. Gays/Lesbians rights must be respected. I have told you people once and before that there is something humane about two men on each other. Ancient Greeks (the founders of modern civilization and philosophy) saw Gayism as a symbol of human sexuality. Theirs was between a mentor who was usually an elder male with a younger male. The time to see a man as a man (without testasterone issues involved) is during gay sexual activities. Hahaha haha hahahah ahaha hahaha... Unlike Hetorosexual sex, during gay sex testasterone and egos are thrown out the window. The game is ruled by pleasure and ecstasy alone. That is what I call fun to watch! LOL lol lol... Zakoomu M. == shamilah bbosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Rehema: You have dwelt on this topic for so long so I have a question: are you for or against gayism/homosexuality? For someone who is not, you sure know alot about it (lol). === Rehema Mukooza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LilQT: 1st, you said: "Interesting! Would you say?" = Yes, it's indeed interesting! I would say. You have touched a point but you have failed to understand or explain it! Too bad! But I will take it upon myself to enlighten you on the issue. You said: "Why would somebody want to jeopardize everything by engaging or participating in activities which are frowned upon especially in a
Re: ugnet_: Re: Cops probe tycoon on homosexuality! and now the Governor resigns
Hi My friend Zakoomu I really do not have the time to respond to your article. But I will keep maintaining that homosexuality is not a conscience choice. The causes for homosexualityare probably genetic andenvironmental. It has also been suggested thatlack of exposure to certainandrogens to the developing maleembryo at a verycriticaltime during intrauterine development may play a major part in explanation of the causes. Whatever the causebeing a homosexual isnot and cannot bean individual choice. For think about it how can a normal heterosexual man choose another man instead of a beautiful woman for sexual activities. He wakes upone day and saysI do not like women anymore even though theyare really sweet and have all other features that make my body go crazy. No more women for me; nowI will go andtry the men with all the problems that come with being a homosexual. Remember our tycoon in Uganda and now the Governor.Does not make sense. Sorry Icannot believe that it is a choice of a heterosexual man. And if you can ever find a real goodhomosexualfriend who can talk freelyhe will tell you that women do not anything forhim. Just do not turn them on period. Anal intercourse as you argue is completely irreverent.There are many women willing to engage in this activity if one wants. Some even enjoy it somuch that they actually ask for it. Homosexual feelings start early in young personlife as they mature. This causes a lot of confusion and denial as a matter of fact as these people struggle with feelings they do not understand. Feelings that seem to be against nature and againstaccepted so called normal sexualbehavior. Such denial lead to often unsuccessful or failed conventional marriages as these people try to conform.Others go into priesthood thinking erroneously that the feelings aredevils' temptationsand convincedthat reparative behavior (changing environment, praying a lot to God for forgiveness,counseling et) will spare them what they feel must be a curse. But whatthey do not understand is that homosexual feelings are not a curse but are as natural as your heterosexual feelings. And try as they maythey cannot run away from these feelings no matter what they do. In the end most succumb to the call of their feelings causing a lot unhappiness and sadness at that point in their lives. Better to understand the feelings as natural and responds to themwithout shame or fear. I feel that it is very important for people to understand this so that the persecution of homosexualstops Remember homosexuality has been around throughout the history of mankind and in all different societies. It is not a choice. It just happens naturally to certain people through no-fault of theirs. These people should not be persecuted or even killed becauseof this. And now what do you think of the story ofthe resignation of the Governor of New Jersey. Married twice with two daughters and yet still seeking sexual satisfaction where his natural feelings send him. I am sure you have seen the story but just in case you have not I have attached it below. chicagotribune.com Nation/World N.J. Governor Resigns, Admits Gay AffairBy JOHN P. McALPINAssociated Press WriterPublished August 13, 2004, 12:16 AM CDTTRENTON, N.J. -- In a stunning declaration, Gov. James E. McGreevey announced his resignation Thursday and acknowledged that he had an affair with another man. "My truth is that I am a gay American," he said with his wife by his side at a nationally televised news conference. "Shamefully, I engaged in adult consensual affairs with another man, which violates my bonds of matrimony," the twice-married father of two said. "It was wrong, it was foolish, it was inexcusable." McGreevey, a Democrat, said his resignation would be effective Nov. 15. McGreevey, 47, refused to answer questions at the Statehouse news conference. He said "it makes little difference that as governor I am gay," but added that staying in office and keeping the affair and his sexual orientation secret will leave the governor's office "vulnerable to rumors, false allegations and threats of disclosure." "Given the circumstances surrounding the affair and its likely impact upon my family and my ability to govern, I have decided the right course of action is to resign," he said without elaborating on what the circumstances were. Two sources close to McGreevey, both speaking on condition of anonymity, said the man involved in the affair was Golan Cipel, an Israeli poet who worked briefly for the governor as a homeland security adviser despite having no security experience. One source, a senior McGreevey political adviser, said Cipel threatened McGreevey several weeks ago that unless he was paid "millions of dollars," Cipel would file a lawsuit against the governor charging him with sexual harassment. That source said a lawyer for Cipel "indicated that should the money be paid, Cipel would disappear until after the 2005 election." The second
ugnet_: Re: Cops probe tycoon on homosexuality!
LilQT: 1st, you said: "Interesting! Would you say?"= Yes, it's indeedinteresting! I would say. You have toucheda point but you have failed to understandor explain it! Too bad! But I will take it upon myself to enlighten you on the issue. You said: "Why would somebody want to jeopardize everything by engaging or participating in activities which are frowned upon especially in a society where a lot of people are uninformed,intolerant or are outright ignorant and where there are no shortage of females particularly for tycoons?" You have observed right, my friend. Homosexual activities are pure Ecstasy! Somebody will risk everything to enjoy Gay sexual activities. If it was not for the great, overpowering sexual ecstasy and pleasure in Gay sexual activities: Do you thinkthat tycoonwould have risked everything for something of no pleasure? Come On!Think, think, it's easy. There has never been a shortage of females particularly for tycoons. The problem is that these females do not know and will not agree to what men like this tycoon enjoy in sexual activities. Obviously, the tycoon had an Anal-Craving and he got it from these men, according to the story. How many Ugandan ladies would agree to Anal Sex? Be realistic. And even if a small number of them agree, they most probably would not enjoy it. Anatomically it's explainable as to why many would not enjoy it. However, Gays claim that anal sex is super! when the performee and the performer are bothenjoying it. One is enjoying full-blown Penile sensations, and the other Prostate sensations. The performee tightens his rectum while enjoying prostate sensations caused by the movements and friction of the performer's manhood in his rectum, while the performer "dies" in the great pleasure the frictionbetween thetight rectum and his manhood is providing tohis erectile tissue (manhood). Thus, pleasure for pleasure. Hah! Yiibanange (Huhmm y'all)!Ha ha ha ha, lol lol lol lol kanesekere (let me laugh). Lastly: "I do not know the truth behind this story but it should make you think if you still believe that homosexuality is a choice." I don't know if you understand this story but it should make you think that homosexuality is a choice. That homosexuality is fun! Atleast, homosexual activities are fun! Homosexuals chose Sexual Pleasure over Social Acceptance. You should focus on this question: What kind/amount of sexual pleasure is that? If you were a critical thinker, you would know the answer to why men choose to become homosexuals. And why they can not give it up no matter what threats they get from society. If you were a critical thinker, you would try to find out what is Homosexuality (not the term/word itselfbut the real underground activities). If you were a critical thinker, you would not blame Gay men. If you were a critical thinker, you would understand as to why Homosexuality Is A Choice. A choice to seek pleasure over social acceptance. No wonder the tycoon almost"...jeopardized everything by engaging or participating in activities which are frowned upon especially in a society where a lot of people are uninformed,intolerant or are outright ignorant and where there are no shortage of females particularly for tycoons." I personally do not blame him ebisiyagobiteekwaokuba ngabinyuma (gay sexual activities must be fun)!.Bwoloza ku swiiti ali mu kisiyago nekikunyumira obulungi bwooti, nga gwe awo tojja kukivaako (once you taste the sweetness in gay sexual activities real good, you will not let go). Ha ha ha ha hahahaha...Unless if you mentally numb yourself from enjoying the activities. E.g; straight men who tried it out once but claim not to have liked it. Examples, like those men who are accussing the tycoon of anal-raping them. Those men are not looking for justice. They are trying to amend their male ego and get money from the tycoon. Had he given them his car title, would they have reported him to the authorities? Ofcourse, not. Because they would have gotten the money they wanted from him, and boosted their egos. The ego is a tough thing to handle. To be penetrated by another man is considered "weak" as in becoming Dominated over. That's why many Gay-men act "weak" like women (whose biological place is to be penetrated,thus dominated over). You see, when Anyomokolo talks about Patriarchy. Gay Males are suffering from it too. Men and women, gays and lesbians all have patriarchy mentalities installed in them from society. They all consider the penetratee as a "weak" person and the penetrator as dominant one. Gay males who are penetrated act like women to portray their "weakness" of being dominated over. Lesbians who "penetrate?" act like men to show their "strength/dominance" in their sexual activities. The accusers of the tycoon are suffering from Patriarchy. They are set on a mission to regain their psychological power as men. Blackmail is their strategy. The accused (tycoon) also suffers from the same. He is using his
ugnet_: Re: Cops probe tycoon on homosexuality!
Shamilah: Sometime not all situations can be termed as "for" or "against." I am not against Homosexuality and I am not for Homosexuality. I am an observer who is trying to understand Homosexuality from the core. My thirst for knowledge and understanding of taboo issues (like homosexuality) has led me to many discoveries. I am a very curious person, ifyou didn't know now you know. If I turn against homosexuality; How will I find the information aboutHomosexual sexual activities thatI am looking for? Turning against Homosexual does not help my cause (knowledge)but hurt it. Nditegeera ntya era ndi manya ntya engeri gyebaryaamu ebisiyaga ne gyebabinyumirwaamu singa mba mbivumirira? Nze nnonya kumanya biffa ku bisiyaga n'obuwoomi obubirimi. Okumanya ebiffa ku bisiyaga tekyirina kyekinkosa! Nze njagala kumanya, era kaneyongereyo nerabire ku bali be bisiyaga. Loosely translated as "How will I acquire knowledge of gay sexual activities and the pleasure involved if I am against gays? I am searching forknowledge about gay sexual activities and the pleasure involved. Knowledge of that can not harm me! I want to know, and let me go do some more watching." If I turn to pro-Homosexuality, I don't think that would help society in the long run either. I would not encourage young men or womento become gays and lesbians. I am pro-fun! I think that If a man enjoys prostate/rectal pleasure, I think he should go ahead with his thing. Being anti-gays will not stop his craving and enjoyments of prostate fun. So, why make his life a living hell? Afterall, it's his life. Everyone on this earth deserves a peacefull, enjoyable life. Gays/Lesbians rights must be respected. I have told you people once and before that there is something humane about two men on each other. Ancient Greeks (thefounders of modern civilization and philosophy)saw Gayism as a symbol of human sexuality. Theirs was between a mentor who was usually an elder male with a younger male. The time to see a man as a man (without testasterone issues involved) is during gay sexual activities. Hahaha haha hahahah ahaha hahaha... Unlike Hetorosexual sex, during gay sex testasterone and egos are thrown out the window. The gameis ruled by pleasure and ecstasy alone. That is what I call fun to watch! LOL lol lol... Zakoomu M. ==shamilah bbosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rehema: You have dwelt on this topic for so long so I have a question: are you for or against gayism/homosexuality? For someone who is not, you sure know alot about it (lol). === Rehema Mukooza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LilQT: 1st, you said: "Interesting! Would you say?"= Yes, it's indeedinteresting! I would say. You have toucheda point but you have failed to understandor explain it! Too bad! But I will take it upon myself to enlighten you on the issue. You said: "Why would somebody want to jeopardize everything by engaging or participating in activities which are frowned upon especially in a society where a lot of people are uninformed,intolerant or are outright ignorant and where there are no shortage of females particularly for tycoons?" You have observed right, my friend. Homosexual activities are pure Ecstasy! Somebody will risk everything to enjoy Gay sexual activities. If it was not for the great, overpowering sexual ecstasy and pleasure in Gay sexual activities: Do you thinkthat tycoonwould have risked everything for something of no pleasure? Come On!Think, think, it's easy. There has never been a shortage of females particularly for tycoons. The problem is that these females do not know and will not agree to what men like this tycoon enjoy in sexual activities. Obviously, the tycoon had an Anal-Craving and he got it from these men, according to the story. How many Ugandan ladies would agree to Anal Sex? Be realistic. And even if a small number of them agree, they most probably would not enjoy it. Anatomically it's explainable as to why many would not enjoy it. However, Gays claim that anal sex is super! when the performee and the performer are bothenjoying it. One is enjoying full-blown Penile sensations, and the other Prostate sensations. The performee tightens his rectum while enjoying prostate sensations caused by the movements and friction of the performer's manhood in his rectum, while the performer "dies" in the great pleasure the frictionbetween thetight rectum and his manhood is providing tohis erectile tissue (manhood). Thus, pleasure for pleasure. Hah! Yiibanange (Huhmm y'all)!Ha ha ha ha, lol lol lol lol kanesekere (let me laugh). Lastly: "I do not know the truth behind this story but it should make you think if you still believe that homosexuality is a choice." I don't know if you understand this story but it should make you think that homosexuality is a choice. That homosexuality is fun! Atleast, homosexual
