Re: [uknof] Loopholes, Ethics and Business Acumen with Ofcom and RIPE

2014-10-20 Thread Adrian Kennard
On 05/09/14 11:47, Gavin Henry wrote:
 2. Ofcom - with the newish charges per number range per year, for area
 codes that are classified as scarce, at £0.50 you get a £0.20~
 discount on numbers ported out to another company. Upon a customer
 sign up for a telephone number in a scarce area, immediately port it
 to another Ltd company you own and receive your £0.20 per number per
 year discount.

We are doing this - separate company handles the ported numbers and
wholesales them back to us. So far OFCOM have accepted the discount
claim, but failed actually get the bills right.

Once the billing is all sorted, we will be in a position of wanting to
encourage more number take up in conservation areas, as we only get the
discount on ported numbers and only actual in-use numbers can be ported.

This commercial incentive to us is the exact opposite of OFCOMs intentions.



Re: [uknof] UK IPv6 Taskforce

2014-10-20 Thread Adrian Kennard
On 05/09/14 15:31, Neil J. McRae wrote:
 (and smart arses who think they have static IP¹s on their
 phones think before responding)) Just Saying!

I do :-)



Re: [uknof] Loopholes, Ethics and Business Acumen with Ofcom and RIPE

2014-10-20 Thread Gavin Henry
On 20 October 2014 09:03, Adrian Kennard uk...@e.gg wrote:
 On 05/09/14 11:47, Gavin Henry wrote:
 2. Ofcom - with the newish charges per number range per year, for area
 codes that are classified as scarce, at £0.50 you get a £0.20~
 discount on numbers ported out to another company. Upon a customer
 sign up for a telephone number in a scarce area, immediately port it
 to another Ltd company you own and receive your £0.20 per number per
 year discount.

 We are doing this - separate company handles the ported numbers and
 wholesales them back to us. So far OFCOM have accepted the discount
 claim, but failed actually get the bills right.

 Once the billing is all sorted, we will be in a position of wanting to
 encourage more number take up in conservation areas, as we only get the
 discount on ported numbers and only actual in-use numbers can be ported.

 This commercial incentive to us is the exact opposite of OFCOMs intentions.

Thanks Adrian. Yeah, seems nothing wrong with 1 or 2 I've mentioned then.

Gavin.

-- 
Kind Regards,
Gavin Henry.



Re: [uknof] Loopholes, Ethics and Business Acumen with Ofcom and RIPE

2014-10-20 Thread Adrian Kennard
On 20/10/14 09:05, Gavin Henry wrote:
 Thanks Adrian. Yeah, seems nothing wrong with 1 or 2 I've mentioned then.

It is interesting that you ask about Ethics though - it is a tricky one.
I think most people are happy with playing regulators and authorities at
their own game, following their exact rules to best advantage, but it is
not always considered acceptable.

Even so, a company director has a legal obligation to act in the best
interests of the shareholders not the regulator.



Re: [uknof] UK IPv6 Taskforce

2014-10-20 Thread Tim Chown
On 20 Oct 2014, at 09:04, Adrian Kennard uk...@e.gg wrote:

 On 05/09/14 15:31, Neil J. McRae wrote:
 (and smart arses who think they have static IP¹s on their
 phones think before responding)) Just Saying!
 
 I do :-)

I saw that coming :)

Anyway, the UK v6 council event was held last Thursday, had a good and varied 
audience, and there was a healthy level of discussion. The slides and video 
footage will be put online in due course.  I’ll post here when they’re 
available.

In terms of industry engagement it was good to have BSkyB, BT, Virgin Media, 
Netflix, EE, Three, Akamai and others present, and a good success story from 
the Belgian counterpart, and a little dive into security issues with Eric 
Vyncke.

Tim