Re: [Unattended] booting linuxboot from a floppy (when BIOS doesn't support CD-ROM booting)- possible?

2005-02-04 Thread Stefan Kell
Hi,

just put the dust off some old pentium I with 166MHz. The BIOS claims to
be able to boot from CD-ROM but this is not true. Put Smart Boot Manager
on a floppy (sbminst -d 0) and switched on this old machine. Smart Boot
Manager showed its menue and I was able to boot the CD-ROM!

Smart Boot Manager has its own module (edd30.asm) for booting off a
CD-ROM.

Regards

Stefan Kell

On Thu, 3 Feb 2005, Jordan Share wrote:

 Stefan Kell wrote:
  Hm, did you try smart boot manager on a machine which could not boot from
  CD?

 To be honest, no. :)  The docs explicitly talk about this functionality,
 but I have never had cause to use it.

 Jordan






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Re: [Unattended] booting linuxboot from a floppy (when BIOS doesn't support CD-ROM booting)- possible?

2005-02-04 Thread Tomasz Chmielewski
Jordan Share wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It's really handy. I have commented on it before. I used it for 
installing Windows XP from CD on a machine that wouldn't boot from CD. 
I just wish I knew what the image name was called and where it could 
be found.

Well, there is this:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/btmgr/
That will let you boot floppy-CD.
btmgr is the tool I used for it - thanks!
Tomek
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Re: [Unattended] booting linuxboot from a floppy (when BIOS doesn't support CD-ROM booting)- possible?

2005-02-03 Thread Jordan Share
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was playing around with v3.0 of debian, and somewhere on the 
distribution CD there was a floppy disk image that you could boot from, 
and it would present you another boot menu where you could choose what 
DEVICE to boot from.

With this floppy, you could boot it, insert your bootable CD into your 
non bootstrapping CD-ROM, and the disk would start reading and booting 
from the cd-rom.

It's really handy. I have commented on it before. I used it for 
installing Windows XP from CD on a machine that wouldn't boot from CD. I 
just wish I knew what the image name was called and where it could be 
found.
Well, there is this:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/btmgr/
That will let you boot floppy-CD.
I don't know if it is what was included with Debian 3.0, though.
Jordan
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Re: [Unattended] booting linuxboot from a floppy (when BIOS doesn't support CD-ROM booting)- possible?

2005-02-03 Thread Stefan Kell
Hi,

yes your right, same thought occured to me after I sent my mail, sorry!

Hm, did you try smart boot manager on a machine which could not boot from
CD?

Regards

Stefan Kell

On Thu, 3 Feb 2005, Jordan Share wrote:

 Those links both discuss setting the BIOS to boot from CD after the HD,
 and then using lilo to trick the BIOS into thinking that the HD boot
 failed (thus causing it to boot to the next device, the CD).

 The original poster was looking for a way to boot to a CD *when the BIOS
 does not support booting to CD*.  Thus, you need some alternate
 bootloader, such as smart boot manager, which you then boot from floppy
 (and it boots to CD).

 Jordan

 Stefan Kell wrote:
  Hi,
 
  take a look at
  http://www.hochstrasser.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?pagename=Linux.LiloCDBoot;
  or
  http://www.derkeiler.com/Newsgroups/comp.os.linux.security/2002-12/0483.html;
 
  Regards
 
  Stefan Kell
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I was playing around with v3.0 of debian, and somewhere on the
 distribution CD there was a floppy disk image that you could boot from,
 and it would present you another boot menu where you could choose what
 DEVICE to boot from.
 
 With this floppy, you could boot it, insert your bootable CD into your
 non bootstrapping CD-ROM, and the disk would start reading and booting
 from the cd-rom.
 
 It's really handy. I have commented on it before. I used it for
 installing Windows XP from CD on a machine that wouldn't boot from CD. I
 just wish I knew what the image name was called and where it could be
 found.
 
 Well, there is this:
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/btmgr/
 
 That will let you boot floppy-CD.
 
 I don't know if it is what was included with Debian 3.0, though.
 
 Jordan




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Re: [Unattended] booting linuxboot from a floppy (when BIOS doesn't support CD-ROM booting)- possible?

2005-02-03 Thread Jordan Share
Stefan Kell wrote:
Hm, did you try smart boot manager on a machine which could not boot from
CD?
To be honest, no. :)  The docs explicitly talk about this functionality, 
but I have never had cause to use it.

Jordan
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