Re: [Unity-design] adding a startup application is not average user friendly
2012/3/5 Jo-Erlend Schinstad joerlend.schins...@gmail.com Right. I wouldn't want a quicklist item for it. When you pin an application, it should automatically get an entry in startup applications, but it should remain unchecked. This could be confusing. Some folks could think that adding a startup application requires an app in the Launcher. Better fixing startup applications by allowing DnD. I don't know how much work it would be to change the startup application in that kind of manner but it would be much more average user friendly without the need to change the 'add' dialog at all. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~unity-design Post to : unity-design@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~unity-design More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Unity-design] Change Audio Output Device From Indicator
Long time ago on ubuntu.brainstorm: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/23754/ ... I love Ubuntu but brainstorm is dead. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~unity-design Post to : unity-design@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~unity-design More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Unity-design] Blank disc quicklist
Hi Ed Mountjoy You could fill a bug and post the bug nr. here. +1 like your suggestion On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Ed Mountjoy emount...@gmail.com wrote: At the moment if a blank disc (CDR/DVD) is inserted it shows up on the launcher and by right clicking the user has the choice of either opening or ejecting it. I understand that clicking 'Open' will let you create a data disc using Nautilus but this isn't clear from the quicklist menu. By integrating the same quicklist options that you get if you have Brasero on the launcher you would get immediate access to much more functionality. The quicklist should look more like this: --- Open Burn an Image File Create an Audio Disc Create a Data Disc Create a Video Disc --- Blank CD-R Disc --- Eject --- -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~unity-design Post to : unity-design@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~unity-design More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~unity-design Post to : unity-design@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~unity-design More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Unity-design] Reduce Dash Icon Clutter
When maximizing the installed programs in the Application Lens there are way too many icons that are meaningless to average users, cluttering the 'Installed' scope and reducing the usefulness furthermore. Just an idea popped up to my mind on how to reduce the clutter a bit without loosing functionality: Replace all system settings related entries by one system setting icon. If e.g. a user types 'privacy' in the Dash, instead of displaying the privacy icon (current state), the system setting icon appears with an additional text 'privacy' – see Mock-uphttps://launchpadlibrarian.net/100460380/dash_remove_system_settings_clutter.png. When the user clicks on the icon, he gets directly to the privacy options in the system settings. This way we reduce the clutter by 23 icons without reducing functionality! See bug #975340 https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/975340 What do you think? -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~unity-design Post to : unity-design@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~unity-design More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Unity-design] Reduce Dash Icon Clutter
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 8:11 PM, Nekhelesh krnekhel...@gmail.com wrote: If that is the case, we can remove all the desktop files and add them as keywords to the existing system setting desktop file. This way when people search for privacy, or background or any settings, the system settings is shown in the dash making them use it. Two points: - If a user searches for *privacy* he should see *system settings privacy * and not only *system settings* (that would be confusing) - When clicking on the merged icon *system settings privacy* the opening window should be the privacy settings and not the system setting overview. If only the overview is shown, the user would have to *search again* the privacy settings on the system settings icon wall = to many steps to do something simple as going to a system settings sub-entry. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~unity-design Post to : unity-design@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~unity-design More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Unity-design] List - 12.04 Default Application Keyboard Shortcuts
Hi Together with others, I have created a LibreOffice Calc table that contains all Ubuntu 12.04 default application shortcuts. It would be really nice if this list could be added to the example folder of the Ubuntu 12.04 CD. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/985891 Greetings Thibaut On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Thibaut B. t.brandsch...@googlemail.comwrote: Hi all I've set up a Google docs file to collaboratively collect 12.04 default application keyboard shortcuts. The plan is to create a filterable LibreOffice Calc document and purpose it for inclusion in the example folder (if possible). goo.gl/lZGrd Everybody can easily contribute by clicking in Google Docs the 'Share' button in the upper right corner and ask for access permission (don't forget to read the 'Contribute' section). Anyways, having a keyboard shortcut list at hand is never bad :) Greetings Thibaut -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~unity-design Post to : unity-design@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~unity-design More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Unity-design] IMHO - UX pre Quantal Quetzal
*Part I - UX pre Quantal Quetzal* Some days ago an Idea came up to my mind, lets writehttps://plus.google.com/111583136332687352922/posts/VticguT1jZyabout the current status of default Ubuntu before quantal and compare it with the final release in some months. ★bad ★★ works not as excepted ★★★ it does what it is for great application ★freaking awesome, Chuck Norris would be proud IMHO - the current status of the bits and bites *Mail:* Mails are one of the most used communication system world wide and there for very important. The current status in Ubuntu is: it works, but it's not where it should be. A lot of mailing tasks fell heavy and rough. To receive mails you have to open Thunderbird, mails are sorted by default 'newest at bottom', the address book opens up in a pop-up, adding a link takes two steps (insert button → link)... The mail app should be a first class citizen, but it's not. ★★★ *Dash:* I recognized that I don't use the Dash much. It's not because I don't want to use it, it's because the Dash is often too limited for my tasks. The application lens works fine for me but for other mouse-only-users I talked with it's a nightmare (too cluttered). For my work I have to name some files and dictionaries along a fixed naming rule, the file lens can't differentiate between them → I can't search for the file I want → file lens is mostly useless to me (sometimes I would like to open the containing directory of an file or open it with another application). The music lens doesn't work correct, when opening an album playing starts not at the first track ('available for purchase' category bugs me too). I tested the video lens and came to the conclusion, it doesn't work for me neither. The speed is not where it should be (improved in 12.04 a lot) and the design feels still alien compared to the rest of the system. The Dash UI can't compete with other modern UI e.g. Android. Overall the Dash is a nice idea with much room for improvements. ★★ *Gwibber:* It displays tweets, the performance is bad (even on my high-end-system scrolling laggs a bit), but it fulfills its purpose - no keyboard shortcuts. ★★★ *File manager:* Nautilus is a very powerful tool with a lot of hidden cool features. It didn't change/improve much the last years. I have some quirks here and there but mostly it just works - the current design is suboptimal. * Software-Center:* It does mostly what it is for. Fuzzy search is not always as accurate as I would like to see it. Apps for purchase is an unsorted mess. The 'History' is almost useless for an average user (it should have an 'application' category that lets the user chronically see the last applications *he installed* - don't show packages at all). The design is okay. ★★★ *Indicators:* Indicators are like the Dash, a bit too minimalistic and a bit to cluttered (will improve in 12.10) - overall they work as expected. ★★★ *Launcher:* Feels sometimes a bit chunky and not as elegant as it could be. Creating a launch for an application that is not supported by default is nearly impossible for an average user (a rare case I admit it). Overall the Launcher is great. *Desktop:* The desktop is maybe the most neglected visible peace of software in Ubuntu for the last years. The only thing that works as expected is that you can right click the desktop and change the wallpaper easily - the rest is more or less a catastrophe. File stacking is still possible (bug report is from 2006 #40872), different sized launcher icons, no grid line, new files are sometimes created half under the launcher, its not possible to have easily a wallpaper sideshow of your photos (a must have). ★★ *Firefox:* *LibreOffice:* ★★★ *System-Settings:* Great with some room for improvements. - *Average Stars - 3,2:* ★★★ 'it does what it is for' describes good where I see Ubuntu right now. I didn't mention the HUD because it is too new and not feature complete. *For Ubuntu to become the best OS the core apps need to improve (Thunderbird, LibreOffice, Dash).* :) Thibaut CC BY 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~unity-design Post to : unity-design@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~unity-design More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Unity-design] Nautilus' Context Menus Getting Out of Hand
I think too that the context menu needs to be redesigned. Another thing that I think is missing are *content aware actions* for the most common use cases - therefore I like the idea of the 'Further Action' menu http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/24505/. *We have the year 2012 an it should be possible to resize a bunch of images with the default install of Ubuntu easily for an average user or merging/spiting two pdf files.* Open With(app DEFAULT, app 1, app 2...) --- Cut Copy Move to Trash --- Further Actions Compress... Rename Share... ---Make Link Properties- Resize... Convert to... The purposed context menu has only 7 entries contrary to the default of 16 entries without loosing any functionality - IMHO. The structure of the further action menu should have two parts: Part 1 - static actions like 'Compress...' (Deja Dup would go here, if acc is set up) Part 2 - content aware actions like 'Resize...' Having a shorter context menu makes a lot of sense from a usability point of view. The first layer (the context menu) has now only often used items (move to trash, copy, cut, rename), all other actions are in the 'Further Actions menu and for the user predictable (I know that I can convert, so I will expect that when clicking on a mp3 file and click convert that it will offer me to convert to an other music file type). -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~unity-design Post to : unity-design@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~unity-design More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Unity-design] Idea - Unity Preview Nautilus Content Aware Modules
Hey, you are right, Unity Modules are kind like Android Intents :) My idea is more focuses on the three points: Unity *Dash*, *Nautilus*, *CLI *(ascii). I don't know if Android Intents would work great for the use case I talked about in the first mail. Having a fix and simple extensible interface to interact with - but more limited - would be probably better. But in general I think Ubuntu needs an intent system to extend its functionality. On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Owas Lone he...@owaislone.org wrote: Nice Idea. I'd love to have something like Android Intents on Ubuntu. It would work well with Unity previews. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~unity-design Post to : unity-design@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~unity-design More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Unity-design] Proposal: An alternate icon scheme for the Messaging Menu
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Sam Hewitt hewittsam...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sort of redacting some things: accounting for folks with colour-vision deficiencies the circles aren't the best scheme. Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_blindness: *Color blindness *(red-green)* affects a significant percentage of the population... About 8 percent of males, but only 0.5 percent of females, are color blind in some way or another...* I thought about it and what it means to the messaging indicator (IM status). Here are my points and why I think we should still go for it: - an envelope icon shape that doesn't change looks cleaner - most colour-vision deficiency people will still be able to see the blue notification - the current IM status in the menu is prefixed by a small dot and postfixed by text - IM has to be turned explicit on -- the user knows he's online At the end colour-vision deficiency people can mostly do exactly the same as not affected people. The only difference is, they have to check their IM status inside the menu. Maybe the 'System Settings'-'Universal Access' menu could be extended for colour-vision deficiency people: - add a way to change the default signal colors to another one - ship with a second icon sets for affected people that replaces various icons e.g. the envelope by different shapes (triangle, circle...) -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~unity-design Post to : unity-design@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~unity-design More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Unity-design] Proposal: An alternate icon scheme for the Messaging Menu
Wow, like it a lot. Now is the question if something similare can be done for the envelope. On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 1:22 AM, Sam Hewitt hewittsam...@gmail.com wrote: I made some slight modifications to the circles (added some symbols): https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7027392/status-spheres-screenshot2.png -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~unity-design Post to : unity-design@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~unity-design More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Unity-design] EOG - Display Google Photosphere
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Looking at this picture(s) I wonder if EOG can display that kind of images too. I guess that we will see ^^ them in future a lot. Click the maximize button and move around using the mouse: https://plus.google.com/photos/+Nexus/albums/5806324577069179953/5806324575982190578 PS: Would be ueber-cool to have such a picture as desktop background. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJQlFebAAoJEEaok1PPF4BE+IYQAI9dq5+6vQCWu9rujbexB+D3 z3mI5ZuFpKbTDyM3Lkt2hDBbhxPyXuHk9aemDRUX3k2jlG7rZGQRK3BOqRdXjHxA 20VUiOf4dVZ1C97Imn93lCJ5dkcfrnTo7R6KbwJbg+KskdLb6wDNKQdRZrOmHAVE Is3PbFM92XCpD2maU8y76Hl58C3nbyuCP62gXJYKPbt06n+MRGSpVxWrSA/oz85P bTQN2Ok11awoMCTZHSthbv3EL61BeMWgqXLNahaEi2K0kpPn5j75NchuR5ZJM87k NHzkPm4K+I1Q0ZVAEvlaNi4gbwBevraXdYPdS4yn3zDH8FUT/d1Img7rAPe6AxYT nast8HCvOrpjR+YeqUs+L43KfsOdIAuPMsXmKgWkvJFP0oUkVTZ84gZdTkyDQjPJ GW7e7cJFtbxuvSaG04KCszCEYKyw8X4yv912SMAxutTerGeMHzHlqZ/UqD/3DQ9D nwsOxdf0O5gRF+iWGyJsd5QUjhLGjarLxsLplJYAnjlE8UnwwM6yfaVa0du2pdYF Eff92sKo1Y7kUd1FKvGIlM+w3JAFqaXqqmfyj2qu5hHMOirfHZYcwvThDADONRGw EcB1G5jWgxapZZ26NZcZBpLuRYn8TBtHxp0INsLU3hD922xncTZC1wuKNFB8bSqD pz3k6j7GIWd7nQyvaT00 =+kiG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~unity-design Post to : unity-design@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~unity-design More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Unity-design] EOG - Display Google Photosphere
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/04/2012 12:25 PM, Gabriel Pettier wrote: Next android release, yes. Camera will have a Photo Sphere mode, helping producing them. There is an apk floating around, but it doesn't work very well on my Jelly Bean, i guess it's better to wait for the release. Anyway, it's not really related to unity-design, right? Its related to Ubuntu (Unity) in the way that there is a good chance that we will see this kind of images in future a lot (Android has millions of users) and it would be nice if Ubuntu could support that media type sooner than later. Imagine you connect your phone to your PC and can't view all images... Le 04/11/2012 12:11, Alan Bell a écrit : On 02/11/12 23:30, Thibaut Brandscheid wrote: Looking at this picture(s) I wonder if EOG can display that kind of images too. I guess that we will see ^^ them in future a lot. why will we see them a lot? Is there some new way of producing them or something? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJQlpUnAAoJEEaok1PPF4BEecMP/0NaeVECnkYUJWu884ifa8DS ozAL3YgJWsxbI7SNf7MM+zhfpuaTXFzu9WW5Jm/Ub6iYCbS1/9+bVC/R2jwjvcKv umwGVLnXUWCQ6pKwo425JKLPR0h+Zpc8BdKSxE1JSvH/lvTJCEIyDH2X8YqUN0uQ wytyGeGmU83NSQaU+TDkRw1vyhGU6IcopebJmlv1GnnJWcvPQLabOdKrWR6e6P46 Y+l+6NPgwSY8aHMLlWmxxL4P2xZFVkBEOgAX+cpg8bhDmQBWKa4efUUoNdN4D7jC hmOcJZ8wUwWT/M6fvmTnJ/D0YqtzrWflz8Oj0bE+AkZKHXUmtHk4cAosEajE0Qfk +u52Xj2wp/qQ70wJZqHp7J1zd+wvpyYUHiy6hqEoNs+xjaw3oaPAPDmPkstVy0Wv SW01O1OLZvYOq/sMUVtH/ZhgoYkC/ngeUgDlZxxMVgEPzLTzqCEFpYm62pAnv4vL Smeoj9pXbnf4O8pQz8tmuzGUM7D3Y42OfO2/FpyrW8hucpqijNodeRGCcbF6Tz06 yXQf3ZHA07WST9ytebNe5f29NEY9sTApU3wVOI8xyz/Aq7WNtSwoAlt6ng/ML2m7 8bTkP8CpnmECThMgnyVsfy8gVv3hVxzdyOAkuxpIUeSXl/mqeOlRsMRz7ysUbEnG OqfX+1YoOXhQe4iphLen =mkAw -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~unity-design Post to : unity-design@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~unity-design More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Unity-design] suggestion – set default lens in system settings
Hi I think it would be great if it was possible to set the default lens, the lens that is shown when pressing SUPER, in system settings to another lens. This way the Dash experience could be more personalized. Some users might use the Dash mostly for file search other for application or what ever search, having the possibility to set another lens as default would be great. Pressing SUPER is much easier than SUPER + [key]. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~unity-design Post to : unity-design@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~unity-design More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Unity-design] suggestion – add a local search lens to the default Ubuntu install
Now that the home lens searches the net too it would be nice to have a lens that searches only locally. This way people could switch between searching online and offline easily without the need to deactivate some scopes. Coupled with my other suggestion 'set default lens in system settings' user could set there default lens to the local one and only search the web if they want to. This way Ubuntu could deliver the whole web and specialized lenses for special topics thing without scarring the more privacy aware people. I for myself like the web, but doesn't like when all my search patterns are send through the net by default when using the default lens aka home lens. If both suggestions would be implemented I could just set my default lens to the local lens, but when searching for files using the file lens being able to find Google Doc files too. The best of both worlds. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~unity-design Post to : unity-design@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~unity-design More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Unity-design] Kill The Sort-By Button
I would like to suggest the removal of all Sort-By buttons in all applications shipped with Ubuntu. The reasons: - they can break the UX in an app for an average user completely - they are rarely used - we don't need them Instead make a default how content should be sorted in Ubuntu and stick to it. Allow the user to change the sorting pattern in the application preferences. There are two problems I try to address: 1 - The without-intention-click-problem I help an elderly man that sometimes clicks without intention and without noticing it. Sometimes he clicks on the Sort-By button with the effect that this mail inbox gets sorted by another pattern, resulting in an unusable program for him, because he can't find any mail any more for days! And he is not the only person I've seen struggling with the Sort-By functionality. Most average users I know just ignore the Sort-By buttons because they are a potential source of trouble for them. 2 - They clutter the UI for no reason. (3 - Touch screen devices have the same problem of intention less clicks, resulting in unwanted actions being executed) I know the Sort-By buttons can be found in applications since decades, but thats not a reason why they should stay. Your thoughts? Greetings Thibaut -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~unity-design Post to : unity-design@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~unity-design More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Unity-design] Kill The Sort-By Button
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Josh Strawbridge holyknightjos...@gmail.com wrote: just because an application ships with ubuntu doesn't mean that ubuntu has anything to do with actually working on the program. I'm aware about that. The reason why I post it here is because I think it's an general UX design problem. personally, i'm against the idea. it is true that i rarely use them and do ignore them for the most part but when i do use them they're very helpful and serve their purpose well. I have nothing against the sort functionality, I do think that the current design - how a user can sort content - is wrong from an UX perspective. i'd hate to have a file manager or any music player without options to sort by this or that. i don't use them with my e-mail but i do sort important mail that i need to keep into different folders for generally the same purpose. The question is, are you part of the main user group Ubuntu is targeting? As I understand Ubuntu, it tries to be an OS for every one and because most users are not computer experts the UI and basic functionality has to be simple (not stupid simple, functionality simple). Sorting is nice, yes, but should it be achieved the way it is currently? On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 9:27 PM, Gabriel Pettier gabriel.pett...@gmail.com wrote: I would hate this too, even if you seldomly use it, doesn't need you won't find it infuriating that it went away when you'll actually need it. I'm pretty sure people would hate to have them removed. Yes, we need the sort functionality, but do we need this one-click-buttons in the front UI? If you would have to go to the settings, or would have to right click to unlock and make the Sort-By buttons visible and editable, would that be such a big loss? How often are the buttons used? rarely Do they represent a key functionality in an application? no How much space do they take? They use horizontally quite much space (horizontal space is really valuable space) How important is the feature for an average user? pretty unimportant Usefulness compared to screen presentation? I would give them 2 of 10 points -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~unity-design Post to : unity-design@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~unity-design More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Unity-design] Kill The Sort-By Button
As well as being simple for a basic user facilities that more sophisticated users need must be provided. Next you will be suggesting removing split screen and tree view from Nautilus. No-one would ever suggest that. The split view is not a feature in the main UI window of nautilus causing any average UX problems... I have nothing against the split view. On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 9:27 PM, Gabriel Pettier gabriel.pett...@gmail.com wrote: I would hate this too, even if you seldomly use it, doesn't need you won't find it infuriating that it went away when you'll actually need it. I'm pretty sure people would hate to have them removed. Yes, we need the sort functionality, but do we need this one-click-buttons in the front UI? If you would have to go to the settings, or would have to right click to unlock and make the Sort-By buttons visible and editable, would that be such a big loss? That is a different suggestion to your original idea, which was to remove them completely. All I try to say is that we have a UX problem with the Sort-By buttons - I have no final solution for the problem. Move the action that is triggered by the Sort-By buttons to the preferences could be one solution. Moving it to the right click menu another. Or locking unlocking the Sort-By button row. Or a single small button on the right of the Sort-By menu to change the sort pattern. No setting at all could be a solution too - a bad one - but it would work for 95% of the time... I have no final thought, just come up with something better/more suitable for average users. How often are the buttons used? rarely Most days by me, for sorting columns in nautilus for example. It would be painful to have to go to the preferences to change it. Often I switch to date sorting to see which files have changed then back to sorting by name. If you use it that often, then maybe you would be okay with some shortcuts - like for switching the folder view in nautilus by pressing CTRL + [1-3]. All of my thoughts are base on the assumption that changing the sort pattern is a rare issue for average users - I could be wrong. How often is the change-sorting-action being used is the key question to find a good UX design. If its widely used by all user groups it should stay as it is. If its only often used by power users the action could be re-design. How much space do they take? They use horizontally quite much space (horizontal space is really valuable space) I don't see how they take space in nautilus, or do you think the column headings are not necessary? They certainly do not take up any horizontal space. I think the information that is present in the Sort-By buttons is negligible most times (Nautilus Thunderbird, but not in Rhythmbox). Looking at the file column tells me all I need to know (filename, size, type, date - its pretty easy to grasp and everyone who cares about the displayed information can distinguish them). -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~unity-design Post to : unity-design@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~unity-design More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Unity-design] Kill The Sort-By Button
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Petko pditc...@gmail.com wrote: First a few notes : 1. The feature in question is very old ,and a lot of people have their way around it . 2. Inheriting the info from 1. - I'm not quite sure how many people (old as they may be) have a problem with the feature. What is our representative sample ? It would be interesting to have some user testing to see how average people use the sort feature and where they struggle (if they do). - Can they sort files in Nautilus by date. - Can they fix a mail app that sorts by-subject instead of by-date (find a mail send on [date]...). - Do they understand the functionality of the sort button (one button - two functionalities: 1. Select the column that should be sorted. 2. The sort direction). On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.comwrote: Before picking up the feature scythe, I suggest trying a less drastic fix. Ubuntu's default theme makes hardly any distinction between the sorted column and other columns. If the sorted column and column header were highlighted, that you had changed the sort order would be more obvious, and how to change it back would also be more obvious. Visualizing the current column sort direction more clearly could be a solution. Maybe adding a monochrome arrow before the column name (a bigger one than the one Nautilus uses) and change the background color to a more lighter color (maybe a very light orange would be okay too) to indicate that column [column name] is currently the selected one to sort the content. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~unity-design Post to : unity-design@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~unity-design More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Unity-design] update-manager - install updates automatically
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all Image: http://ubuntuone.com/3aMCJeZsEf9FISqiNqX5uw It would be nice if the user could tell the update-manager to download and install updates automatically (security and normal updates). By default the check-box (see mock-up) should not be checked. If the user checks it, /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades should be changed to: Unattended-Upgrade::Allowed-Origins { ${distro_id}:${distro_codename}-security; ${distro_id}:${distro_codename}-updates; }; Unattended-Upgrade::MinimalSteps true; Acquire::http::Dl-Limit 70; This way the user could just use his computer and would not have to bother if he is up to date. Setting a download limit would not hurt either, because if you don't see it you don't feel the pain of a slow download. People using slow or expensive connections (mobile tethering) would simply not check the box. Nowadays updates are super stable, I don't see a reason why not having them run invisibly in the background. Any remarks? Should I fill a bug? Kind Regards Thibaut -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJRETbKAAoJEEaok1PPF4BEUakP/iWpeeDnuBm+2uwaQ5qH9fMJ AVceHYbg2/QrQPqdISd5f2p57tT75Q8gvFfXNfuJBTdhbGq9FsH/QQS95mCtNQLM 5GkFltjz4xm+ww/bbLJiHJZljmf040SiCXRnVlfkc+9xmMlyiTVWP+X1CMAr62zH dwOM/NNlb5RjzctR9ECK853Ff24IL9X8bf92H3RLCdU2K56CyBRElvg+6JvracL4 PUSMaBN1kIdRY8rjvjr0+J95PElWI+0beFYHZnRMevkmn8UD/n1ysj0JX0A4Di2V jC5eQqQ56PCkqM131qfVBbBLdLujALccsWbk8/xe94fty6/KbWq//Pl3mjSNb8l3 jpE32C8p7eEqtbl8wnDdgdYgJWS3C1/4io/40RsLPssNrPRXO/kRQGjKFJYn1j9g IKjETklqHimjBFxvMxn3Tify39Nng4uovDALlrN+desHKwoFZFuBjJCadMIsqt1k cK60Q1H+xl7U8kHlDJhil04SAyNqQ6S5orL5VtGgKF/TsStmsOd3oEr9UBj7Lku+ jM9LjUla/qkMihhgToawoPSMRu/wBp4emO6yGVYuF8Vd8H/IwMzvKMv/noMHOPi0 jlJYru8pFyW/v36um7d6f9CnHAI1Yg28TaEtLtWNp3zN+5KjUVlMjGzobGJ4Y3Xi VBUFtV/m5HN68XsPa+Hn =bQpF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~unity-design Post to : unity-design@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~unity-design More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Unity-design] Thoughts on Unity Next
With Unity Next upcoming there will be some changes and I would like to suggest some more xD Maybe some of the ideas reach the persons who are in charge to design / develop some of the talked areas and consider what I wrote down here. UX improvements = * Kill all pop-up windows, except for the password prompt. This would result in a more pleasant user experience because there would be a lesser amount of windows distracting the user. I believe pop-up windows should stay instead in a separate tab and not in its own window cluttering the desktop. A compromise could be for an interim basis to bind all pop-up windows centralized to the application from which it was open, so that there is no second window for the pop-up on the desktop. * Improve the consistency of the system by providing every where the same tools and mechanisms, e.g. the user can shutdown / control the session when logged-in with the HUD, but not when in the login-manager. This should change, we have the HUD, it should be usable every where. * Remove flickering and blinking elements, e.g. when searching the Dash the entries flicker or when switching fast between the sound menu to the messaging menu the different windows appear and disappear producing a blinking effect. * Add a desktop background slide show setting and maybe one to loop a video too. This may be a small thing to do, but many people like to see there kids / family / friends on there desktop. I know, currently there is the possibility to create desktop slide shows, but be honest, they are not average user friendly and not build in. * Replace all 'send to' buttons with a share button. * Improve the print dialog / print settings. Remember nearly every user will use / see this dialog. * I guess you will replace Nautilus with your own file manager, if so, please remove the bloat of the right click menu. * Replace Rhythmbox, Totem Nautilus with something that integrates nice into the desktop (functionality look). Improve keyboard navigation = Unity Next gives you the chance to do things right in some areas that rarely change. One of this areas are keyboard shortcuts. Currently there is no real agreement what key combination STRG + FooBar should do. It would be nice if Ubuntu would define default keys for common actions and enforce them in an Ubuntu HIG - every app has to follow it to be labeled Ubuntu conform. STRG + Q = close all windows of an application STRG + T = open a new tab STRG + W = close tab or close single window if no tabs are open/available STRG + N = new document / file STRG + F = search STRG + C = copy STRG + X = cut STRG + V = past F1 = help F2 = open preferences ALT [0-9] = witch tab to [tab 0-9] STRG + +/- = zoom in / out STRG + K = delete line Having some keyboard shortcuts you can relay on in all applications would be great and improve the user experience. HIG === Define a fix name for the setting menu and where it should be, e.g.: Edit Preferences Improve the Dash = Let's talk about searching. There are three places I usually search for something, the Internet, the file system and emails. When searching something in the net I use Google, easy, problem is fixed for me, no need for another tool proving the same functionality - I have a browser open anyway. The other two (file system and email) are left. The Dash dose not a good job on neither of them. It dose find files and folders but not accurate enough to be useful. It can't search your past mail conversations. Conclusion, currently the Dash fails as search tool, because it doesn't help me (the user) to find what I'm searching for. I still have to open several other programs to search for the things I'm looking for. * Search and find past Thunderbird conversations. * Index the content of the last 100 opened Documents and make it searchable in the Dash (txt, odt, doc...). * Search and find Thunderbird address book contacts. * Search and find the content of past Empathy conversations. Improve the Bash = The terminal is surely not an average user tool but I see here some improvements possibilities too. What about adding some more aliases and bash functions to enhance the default experience. I suggest to add a new file containing all these and load it through a line in the bashrc, so that it can be easily disabled. Of what I'm thinking of: Send a call for contribution out to the community to collect small functions and aliases that improve the daily command line live of the most into a wiki. Maybe let's even change the default prompt to something more useful, e.g. display the path and system name in one line and the bash prompt always in a second new line. Maybe add version control info (e.g. branch name) to the prompt (bzr, git, svn), there are planty ways the default terminal UX could be improved. Just lets brainstorm and collect suggestions. Some aliases I use: alias ..='cd ..'