[UC] Why I'm concerned about police deployment

2007-10-31 Thread Krfapt
In a previous posting, I expressed concern about the police deployment  with 
respect to the killing that occurred outside of Koko Bongo on  Sunday morning. 
Having 10 cops there because there had been an altercation the  previous 
week seemed excessive -- and I wonder whether this heavy police  presence 
contributed to the precipitation of the gunfire.
 
The reason for the concern is the email message reproduced  below, in which 
Wendell Lewis brags to the UCD Board of Directors  about the control this 
private special services district exerts  over the police activity in the area.
 
I'd like to think that the chain of command for decisions as well as  
responsibility goes up through the ranks to the Captain at the 18th Precinct 
and  
eventually to the Police Commissioner, City Council, and the Mayor. Now, I 
learn  
that Messers Ceasar and Gray, and Lt McCurdy, are UCD officers and that  
UCD rather than the Philadelphia Police Dept will step up Police ... patrols 
in 
 the area.
 
 
Always at your service   ready for a dialog,
Al Krigman   

   

  

Recipients of the email message (the UCD Board of  Directors) were: 
Craig  Carnaroli; Barry Grossbach; David Adelman; Della Clark; Dorothy Welch 
Berlind;  James Tucker; Joe Trainor; Lindsay Johnston; Mark Mendenhall; 
Maureen Rush;  Max Paul; Mike Brooke; Oliver Franklin; Susan Phillips; Tony 
Bartolomeo;  William Schwartz; (police Lt John McCurdy).
The text of the massage was: (http://www.iconworldwide.com/krf)  
 
This past Wednesday evening a  robbery and arrest occurred at 46th and 
Larchwood.  While the  incident is troubling, I am pleased to report that an 
arrest 
was made by new  UCD Officers Ceasar and Gray; both undercover at the time.  
Lt. McCurdy  is trying to get information on the arrest of the second male 
perpetrator. The  details are as follows:


 
Date and Time: Wednesday 10.24.07, 11:00 PM
Location: 46th and Larchwood
 
Details: Complainant W/M 66 yrs. was approached by two B/M’s who began  
punching the complainant to the ground in an attempt to take his  belongings.  
The 
males fled the scene; a short time later, one male was  apprehended and 
identified by the complainant.  The suspect was  identified as B/M 17 yrs. The 
male 
was charged with robbery and aggravated  assault among other charges.  Both 
males were on bikes prior to the  robbery.  Description on #2 male is B/M in 
this teen’s wearing dark  clothing.
 
The police have been very responsive. UCD will step up Police and  Ambassador 
patrols in the area.
 
Lewis C. Wendell, Executive  Director
University City  District
3940-42 Chestnut  Street
Philadelphia, PA 19104
Tel: 215/243-0555
Fax:  215/243-0557





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Re: [UC] Recidivism/probationers/Nutter

2007-10-31 Thread Glenn
Hey Andrew,

Yesterday in the Inky was an interesting article about
the police commissioner, Sylvester Johnson.  He
believes the stop and frisk policy would be a
disaster.  His focus is how this will turn the clock
back on police/community relations and destroy,
perhaps in months, the gains which have taken years to
forge.  He cites the recent request for community
volunteers and getting 10,000 people to show up as
evidence of improving relations.

I have not seen details of this $10,000 tax credit
first alluded to in the primaries.  In my experience,
this tax credit strategy sounds much better than it
turns out to be.  

Over a decade ago, I looked for employers for
individuals with chronic substance abuse disease.  I
think all those I worked with counted as ex-offenders
too.

The employers weren't interested in the federal tax
breaks available.  As a large industrial janitorial
contractor explained to me, when the details come out:
there is so much work and little hope for actually
qualifying.  

This same employer was very interested in the program
I was offering to help bridge the gap to employment.
For 6 months, I maintained case management services
for the referrals with an up-front agreement for
three-way open communication to assist the individuals
maintain their jobs.  My referrals succeeded very well
but in almost all cases minor problems arose that
could have easily caused termination in those first
six months.  

Now does this reward only kick-in after the first six
months of employment?  That would suggest to me lots
of hoops for legitimate employers, lots of fraud, and
very little impact on maintaining employment or
reducing recidivism.

 The intervention I worked on was a small pilot
project but was successful because it was a good
design based on previous empirical evidence not sound
bites.  Unfortunately, there is no political will
among the people to expand good policy when sound
bites are available to our political leaders.

I believe these tax break strategies are akin to
creaming.  The individuals most at risk for criminal
recidivism will be those most at risk to lose their
jobs in the first six months.  These strategies look
like some incredible attempt to solve the problem
around elections yet do almost nothing for the problem
while distracting society from looking at the
underlining problems and implementing sound policy.

Then, the reports come about the brilliant plan
failing because the individuals are beyond all hope.
I've seen this pattern repeat so many times that now
the fear in society has become so extreme that we are
considering policies to end civil liberties and the
bill of rights for the majority of people/criminals in
our midst.

I'm sorry I feel compelled to disagree so strongly
with something that sounds so positive.  

I would very much like to see the full plan.  If the
details for the employers are not available, I will
continue to dismiss it as political rhetoric and poor
policy.  I saw this tax credit suggested in the
primary without any details which I could find.

Andrew you seem good at this. If you can get the
details, please share.  I'd love to change my mind or
get folks to talk to the next mayor about the problems
I outlined.

Thanks,
Glenn









 


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 I don't know if anyone else made it to Michael
 Nutter's community forum the
 other night, but he mentioned a bill that I believe
 will be before city council
 this week.  Somehow it had escaped my notice thus
 far.  It calls for a $10,000
 credit against the business privilege tax for
 companies that hire ex-offenders
 for 6-months or more.  He also cited a staggering
 72% recidivism rate in the
 city.  The proposal was extremely popular with the
 crowd, and he couldn't
 resist adding a couple of pull-up-your-pants
 applause lines at the end.  I
 posted a video clip here:
 
 http://malcolmxpark.org/?p=494
 
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Re: [UC] More humane methods required in shootouts

2007-10-31 Thread Mariellen Smith

Roomba Unveils Military Robot
http://www.theonion.com/content/amvo/roomba_maker_unveils_military?utm_source=cnn00

At 09:57 PM 10/30/2007, missthin wrote:
Well, I-Robot, you know the company that makes those cute, but mostly 
(imho) worthless Roombas?  They're making a new spiffy thing called the 
Packbot which uses a joystick and is armed with tasers.


http://zerosix.wordpress.com/2007/07/05/skynet-alert-roomba-gets-a-taser/http://zerosix.wordpress.com/2007/07/05/skynet-alert-roomba-gets-a-taser/

Is it humane? I don't think so, but neither are bullets no matter who's 
firing the gun.


Wendy

On 10/30/07, Joe Clarke 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Isn't there a glue trap or some other humane alternative to respond to
people with guns?  Sheeesh.

Joe (stickin' to my guns) Clarke

Mariellen Smith wrote:
 Yeah it's probably the cops fault. I wish the police would stop
 stirring up all of this gun violence. What /were /they doing
 patrolling the streets, anyway? I smell a conspiracy.
 -Mariellen

 At 11:32 AM 10/30/2007, Mike VanHelder wrote:
 Since only a psychic can answer whether or not the police were a
 precipitating factor, Al, I can only assume that it's your intention
 to launch sly insinuations and attack the public's trust in our
 police forces under the guise of speaking for the community.  Your
 opposition to the NID I can understand, though I think it's selfish
 and disingenuous, but what beef do you have with the cops, and why
 can't you just come out and attack them openly instead of
 peck-peck-pecking at them like an underhanded vulture?

 - Mike V.

 On 10/30/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]

 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 The question still remains... why were all the cops there anyway,
 who deployed them, and was their very presence a precipitating
 factor?

 Enquiring minds want to know

 Al Krigman



 
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Re: [UC] Why I'm concerned about police deployment

2007-10-31 Thread Jim Cummings
There are undercover UCD officers! Doesn't anyone on this list care
that a non-publicly accountable group is arresting people. That is
vigilantism, what about the rule of law and order? Do you trust the
UCD to decide who is any enemy of the people and who is not?
Jim Cummings

On 10/31/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 In a previous posting, I expressed concern about the police deployment with
 respect to the killing that occurred outside of Koko Bongo on Sunday
 morning. Having 10 cops there because there had been an altercation the
 previous week seemed excessive -- and I wonder whether this heavy police
 presence contributed to the precipitation of the gunfire.

 The reason for the concern is the email message reproduced below, in which
 Wendell Lewis brags to the UCD Board of Directors about the control this
 private special services district exerts over the police activity in the
 area.

 I'd like to think that the chain of command for decisions as well as
 responsibility goes up through the ranks to the Captain at the 18th Precinct
 and eventually to the Police Commissioner, City Council, and the Mayor. Now,
 I learn that Messers Ceasar and Gray, and Lt McCurdy, are UCD officers and
 that UCD rather than the Philadelphia Police Dept will step up Police ...
 patrols in the area.


 Always at your service  ready for a dialog,
 Al Krigman 
  


 Recipients of the email message (the UCD Board of Directors) were:


 Craig Carnaroli; Barry Grossbach; David Adelman; Della Clark; Dorothy Welch
 Berlind; James Tucker; Joe Trainor; Lindsay Johnston; Mark Mendenhall;
 Maureen Rush; Max Paul; Mike Brooke; Oliver Franklin; Susan Phillips; Tony
 Bartolomeo; William Schwartz; (police Lt John McCurdy).

 The text of the massage was:


 This past Wednesday evening a robbery and arrest occurred at 46th and
 Larchwood.  While the incident is troubling, I am pleased to report that an
 arrest was made by new UCD Officers Ceasar and Gray; both undercover at the
 time.  Lt. McCurdy is trying to get information on the arrest of the second
 male perpetrator. The details are as follows:


 Date and Time: Wednesday 10.24.07, 11:00 PM
 Location: 46th and Larchwood

 Details: Complainant W/M 66 yrs. was approached by two B/M's who began
 punching the complainant to the ground in an attempt to take his belongings.
  The males fled the scene; a short time later, one male was apprehended and
 identified by the complainant.  The suspect was identified as B/M 17 yrs.
 The male was charged with robbery and aggravated assault among other
 charges.  Both males were on bikes prior to the robbery.  Description on #2
 male is B/M in this teen's wearing dark clothing.

 The police have been very responsive. UCD will step up Police and Ambassador
 patrols in the area.

 Lewis C. Wendell, Executive Director
 University City District
 3940-42 Chestnut Street
 Philadelphia, PA 19104
 Tel: 215/243-0555
 Fax: 215/243-0557


 
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Re: [UC] Why I'm concerned about police deployment

2007-10-31 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN

ucd -- making arrests ?  undercover ???

welcome to our SECRET SERVICE DISTRICT




[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a previous posting, I expressed concern about the police deployment 
with respect to the killing that occurred outside of Koko Bongo on 
Sunday morning. Having 10 cops there because there had been an 
altercation the previous week seemed excessive -- and I wonder whether 
this heavy police presence contributed to the precipitation of the gunfire.
 
The reason for the concern is the email message reproduced below, in 
which Wendell Lewis brags to the UCD Board of Directors about the 
control this /private/ special services district exerts over the police 
activity in the area.
 
I'd like to think that the chain of command for decisions as well as 
responsibility goes up through the ranks to the Captain at the 18th 
Precinct and eventually to the Police Commissioner, City Council, and 
the Mayor. Now, I learn that Messers Ceasar and Gray, and Lt McCurdy, 
are UCD officers and that UCD rather than the Philadelphia Police Dept 
will step up Police ... patrols in the area.
 
Always at your service  ready for a dialog,

Al Krigman



*Recipients of the email message (the UCD Board of Directors) were:*

/Craig Carnaroli; Barry Grossbach; David Adelman; Della Clark;
Dorothy Welch Berlind; James Tucker; Joe Trainor; Lindsay Johnston;
Mark Mendenhall; Maureen Rush; Max Paul; Mike Brooke; Oliver
Franklin; Susan Phillips; Tony Bartolomeo; William Schwartz; (police
Lt John McCurdy)/.

*The text of the massage was:* http://www.iconworldwide.com/krf

This past Wednesday evening a robbery and arrest occurred at 46^th
and Larchwood.  While the incident is troubling, I am pleased to
report that an arrest was made by new UCD Officers Ceasar and Gray;
both undercover at the time.  Lt. McCurdy is trying to get
information on the arrest of the second male perpetrator. The
details are as follows:

 
Date and Time: Wednesday 10.24.07, 11:00 PM

Location: 46^th and Larchwood
 
Details: Complainant W/M 66 yrs. was approached by two B/M’s who

began punching the complainant to the ground in an attempt to take
his belongings.  The males fled the scene; a short time later, one
male was apprehended and identified by the complainant.  The suspect
was identified as B/M 17 yrs. The male was charged with robbery and
aggravated assault among other charges.  Both males were on bikes
prior to the robbery.  Description on #2 male is B/M in this teen’s
wearing dark clothing.
 
The police have been very responsive. UCD will step up Police and

Ambassador patrols in the area.
 
Lewis C. Wendell, Executive Director

University City District
3940-42 Chestnut Street
Philadelphia, PA 19104
Tel: 215/243-0555
Fax: 215/243-0557
















































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Re: [UC] DP: no police misconduct in local gunfight

2007-10-31 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN

Mariellen Smith wrote:
Yeah it's probably the cops fault. I wish the police would stop stirring 
up all of this gun violence. What /were /they doing patrolling the 
streets, anyway? I smell a conspiracy.




Mike VanHelder wrote:
Since only a psychic can answer whether or not the police were a 
precipitating factor, Al, I can only assume that it's your intention 
to launch sly insinuations and attack the public's trust in our police 
forces under the guise of speaking for the community.  Your 
opposition to the NID I can understand, though I think it's selfish 
and disingenuous, but what beef do you have with the cops, and why 
can't you just come out and attack them openly instead of 
peck-peck-pecking at them like an underhanded vulture?




Al Krigman wrote:
The question still remains... why were all the cops there anyway,
who deployed them, and was their very presence a precipitating factor?




apparently, there are psychics all over this case.

according to the daily news:

   Police foresight was credited with containing the
   situation, which [Lt.] Vanore said could have been much
   worse if the original detail of 10 officers had not been
   stationed outside of the club.

   Fortunately, our officer was OK and the situation ended
   up being not as serious as it could of [sic] been,
   McNesby said.


according to the dp:

   [Sgt.] Coan said there were no reports of an argument or
   fight inside the club before the shooting began.

   Vice President for Public Safety Maureen Rush said the
   incident was indicative of a larger problem Philadelphia
   has with violence at its nightclubs. It is just another
   example of how easy it is for people to have guns and how
   quickly an argument in a nightclub can escalate, she
   said.



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Re: [UC] Recidivism/probationers/Nutter

2007-10-31 Thread anm
Youngphillypolitics.com has posted the legislation in its entirety.  There are
some strings attached, of course.  But even if there's a little corruption or
the program ends up needing a few tweaks, it still seems like a good incentive
to hire ex-offenders, given that there's no incentive (that I know of)
currently.

http://youngphillypolitics.com/goode_introduces_nutter_prep_legislation

Andrew



Quoting Glenn [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hey Andrew,

 Yesterday
 in the Inky was an interesting article about
 the police commissioner, Sylvester Johnson.  He
 believes the stop and frisk policy would be a
 disaster.  His focus is how this will turn the clock
 back on police/community relations and destroy,
 perhaps in months, the gains which have taken years to
 forge.  He cites the recent request for community
 volunteers and getting 10,000 people to show up as
 evidence of improving relations.

 I have not seen details of this $10,000 tax credit
 first alluded to in the primaries.  In my experience,
 this tax credit strategy sounds much better than it
 turns out to be.

 Over a decade ago, I looked for employers for
 individuals with chronic substance abuse disease.  I
 think all those I worked with counted as ex-offenders
 too.

 The employers weren't interested in the federal tax
 breaks available.  As a large industrial janitorial
 contractor explained to me, when the details come out:
 there is so much work and little hope for actually
 qualifying.

 This same employer was very interested in the program
 I was offering to help bridge the gap to employment.
 For 6 months, I maintained case management services
 for the referrals with an up-front agreement for
 three-way open communication to assist the individuals
 maintain their jobs.  My referrals succeeded very well
 but in almost all cases minor problems arose that
 could have easily caused termination in those first
 six months.

 Now does this reward only kick-in after the first six
 months of employment?  That would suggest to me lots
 of hoops for legitimate employers, lots of fraud, and
 very little impact on maintaining employment or
 reducing recidivism.

  The intervention I worked on was a small pilot
 project but was successful because it was a good
 design based on previous empirical evidence not sound
 bites.  Unfortunately, there is no political will
 among the people to expand good policy when sound
 bites are available to our political leaders.

 I believe these tax break strategies are akin to
 creaming.  The individuals most at risk for criminal
 recidivism will be those most at risk to lose their
 jobs in the first six months.  These strategies look
 like some incredible attempt to solve the problem
 around elections yet do almost nothing for the problem
 while distracting society from looking at the
 underlining problems and implementing sound policy.

 Then, the reports come about the brilliant plan
 failing because the individuals are beyond all hope.
 I've seen this pattern repeat so many times that now
 the fear in society has become so extreme that we are
 considering policies to end civil liberties and the
 bill of rights for the majority of people/criminals in
 our midst.

 I'm sorry I feel compelled to disagree so strongly
 with something that sounds so positive.

 I would very much like to see the full plan.  If the
 details for the employers are not available, I will
 continue to dismiss it as political rhetoric and poor
 policy.  I saw this tax credit suggested in the
 primary without any details which I could find.

 Andrew you seem good at this. If you can get the
 details, please share.  I'd love to change my mind or
 get folks to talk to the next mayor about the problems
 I outlined.

 Thanks,
 Glenn












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  I don't know if anyone else made it to Michael
  Nutter's community forum the
  other night, but he mentioned a bill that I believe
  will be before city council
  this week.  Somehow it had escaped my notice thus
  far.  It calls for a $10,000
  credit against the business privilege tax for
  companies that hire ex-offenders
  for 6-months or more.  He also cited a staggering
  72% recidivism rate in the
  city.  The proposal was extremely popular with the
  crowd, and he couldn't
  resist adding a couple of pull-up-your-pants
  applause lines at the end.  I
  posted a video clip here:
 
  http://malcolmxpark.org/?p=494
 
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[UC] 2 Steps Forward, 1 Step Back

2007-10-31 Thread Elizabeth F Campion
 
Will I get all the decorations up by 5 PM?
 
I tried to get the big exhibits and sidewalk teasers up in advance and
some evil spirit(s) came along and stole some signs, 2 cheap plastic
skeletons, 2 beloved raffia angels (and beheaded the other 2) and other
items from the front.  
I heard several neighbors suffered the loss and destruction of pumpkins.
It is disheartening.
I hope good spirits rise above the petty crap to enjoy (and help others
enjoy) a Spook-tacular Halloween.
Sadly, the losses caused me to redirect my time, so that I'll spend all
day getting ready.
It would have been nice to stage the event, in time and to build a
crescendo among the neighbors, but the risk of decorations being taken or
destroyed is still to great.
 
In the plus column...
 
Several neighbors told me that they bought extra candy to accommodate the
hordes that will overflow unto their front steps.
I am delighted they embrace my Halloween goal and don't resent the annual
chaos.
 
Special friends, one an original mini-station volunteer, dropped off
1,000 Tootsie Pops to supplement the Squirrel Hill Town Watch 
Substation offerings in the side yard.
 
Karen Allen, the volunteer treasurer of Cedar Park made extra efforts to
deliver a CPN donation to Squirrel Hill TWPSS to support the side yard
event.
 
Another local, a Penn grad that I've known for over 20 years wrote a very
generous check to help SHTWPSS underwrite expenses.
 
John Fenton and Jannie Blackwell's office have promised to send treats
and coordinate volunteers
 
Cyndy tells me that many other people and businesses and the Garden Court
Community Association have also made donations to the Town Watch side of
this production.
 
My husband enabled me to spend an insane amount of money on the 2,500
full sized candy bars that my family is prepared to treat from our
front step, before directing Tricksters into the wilderness of the Town
Watch 'patrolled' side yard.
 
Many elementary students from St. Friends de Sales, and one teacher, Mr.
Thomas O'Connell volunteered time and energy.
Several of the kids are recent immigrants and it is awe inspiring to see
their whole hearted embrace of this odd holiday and to benefit from their
inspirations, flavored with alternative cultures.
 
Student volunteers from PENN'S Alpha Phi Omega, a coed service
fraternity, spent an afternoon
changing batteries on animated items
putting together items dismantled for storage
coloring the porch monsters, with magic markers
and more of them will come back today to help with distribution.
Jonathan Lee, the Vice President of Service, coordinated volunteers.
If any of their teachers, advisors or even peers are on these lists,
please let these young people know how much I value their good will and
good work.
They stage crew was Abby Dosertz, Young Kim,  Matthew Kwong, Leanna
Jaleyola, Courtney Kalkstein, Anna Lee, Tina Lee, Jennifer New Comer, 
Elaine Yip and Yvonne Wang.
Jonathan tells me that Yvonne Wang and Courtney Kalkstein will come back
to help out this evening and that they will be joined by new volunteers
Amy Lei, Amulya Penmetsa, Gina Li and Stephanie Conteh. 
 
Cyndy Preston has kept in touch and worked hard and smart.
She is the heart, soul and backbone of this event, even though I seem to
get more recognition, because the event takes place at 4611 Springfield.
We are odd partners.
She is a chain smoker whose focus is on safety and activities for young
children and I a rabid nonsmoker whose focus is on fun and building happy
memories and providing attention, inspiration and community across all
generations.
I am lucky to have been asked to help, and fortunate that I could.
Every year brings some moments of head butting and wonderment that we are
the Halloween team, and every year
I am awed by the energy and effort that tiny, fragile Cindy throws into
making each Halloween better than the one before.
 
If anyone feels trapped in an apartment and wants to volunteer and
participate, we can use 
face painters, candy distributors, line monitors (costumed
entertainers).

So... while the petty thefts were annoying, the overwhelming evidence is
that most of our neighbors are good, generous and fun.
I hope all the good spirits, even those who choose anonymity, take a
moment to bask in their good deeds.
 
We hope to see most of you Trick or Treating tonight, between 5 and 7
PM at
4611 Springfield Ave
Happy Halloween!
Liz Campion
(and Lawrence, Katie and Michael Motyka)
 

[UC] Parade?? Help

2007-10-31 Thread bob rathmann
Is the Holaween parade today?  What time and where does it start?  If 
we miss it Oscar will never forgive us.

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Re: [UC] Why I'm concerned about police deployment - Force on Force

2007-10-31 Thread craigsolve


ucd -- making arrests ? undercover ??? 
 
welcome to our SECRET SERVICE DISTRICT 


1) Below is why large numbers of officers should be deployed in certain types 
of volatile situations. The doctrine of overwhelming force is timeless and 
universal whether old Sun Tzu or modern Powell espouses it.

Please keep all our law enforcement officers in your prayers; today we may lose 
one.

2) UPenn is to be congradulated. The use of UCD is now generic, when 
Philadelphia Police Officers working in UC are now referred to as UCD officers.

Ciao,

Craig


2 shootings of Philly officers within span of day



Associated Press


A police officer was shot in the head in North Philadelphia on Wednesday 
morning, a day after another officer was shot in the shoulder.

The officer was shot around 10:30 a.m. at a Dunkin' Donuts, according to 
Officer Raul Malveiro, a police spokesman. The injured officer was taken to 
Albert Einstein Medical Center, but his condition was not immediately known.

Police did not know whether the suspect fled in a vehicle or on foot.

Wednesday's shooting came about 12 hours after a masked gunman shot a police 
officer in the shoulder during a chase downtown. That gunmen apparently jumped 
into the Schuylkill River, where searchers later recovered a body. Police said 
Wednesday morning that they had not determined if it was the suspect's body.

Traffic Officer Mario Santiago responded to a report of shots fired shortly 
after 10 p.m. Tuesday. The gunman was in a sport utility vehicle when he fired 
at another vehicle, injuring two men and a woman, police said.

Responding to a radio call, Santiago started chasing the SUV. The gunman 
eventually got out of his vehicle and approached the squad car, firing twice 
through the window and hitting Santiago once in the right shoulder, police 
Commissioner Sylvester Johnson said.

Also Tuesday, a man who fatally shot a police officer during a robbery attempt 
at a bar last year pleaded guilty to first-degree murder and was sentenced to 
life in prison. In May 2006, Solomon Montgomery fired a shotgun out the back 
door of the bar, hitting Officer Gary Skerski in the neck.

Skerski's death marked the first killing of an on-duty officer in Philadelphia 
in more than a decade.
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/20071031_2_shootings_of_Philly_officers_within_span_of_day.html







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ucd -- making arrests ? undercover ??? 
 
welcome to our SECRET SERVICE DISTRICT 
 
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 In a previous posting, I expressed concern about the police deployment  with 
 respect to the killing that occurred outside of Koko Bongo on  Sunday 
 morning. Having 10 cops there because there had been an  altercation the 
 previous week seemed excessive -- and I wonder whether  this heavy police 
 presence contributed to the precipitation of the gunfire. 
  The reason for the concern is the email message reproduced below, in  
  which Wendell Lewis brags to the UCD Board of Directors about the  control 
  this /private/ special services district exerts over the police  activity 
  in the area. 
  I'd like to think that the chain of command for decisions as well as  
  responsibility goes up through the ranks to the Captain at the 18th  
  Precinct and eventually to the Police Commissioner, City Council, and  the 
  Mayor. Now, I learn that Messers Ceasar and Gray, and Lt McCurdy,  are 
  UCD officers and that UCD rather than the Philadelphia Police Dept  
  will step up Police ... patrols in the area. 
  Always at your service  ready for a dialog, 
 Al Krigman 
  
  
  *Recipients of the email message (the UCD Board of Directors) were:* 
  /Craig Carnaroli; Barry Grossbach; David Adelman; Della Clark; 
 Dorothy Welch Berlind; James Tucker; Joe Trainor; Lindsay Johnston; 
 Mark Mendenhall; Maureen Rush; Max Paul; Mike Brooke; Oliver 
 Franklin; Susan Phillips; Tony Bartolomeo; William Schwartz; (police 
 Lt John McCurdy)/. 
  *The text of the massage was:* http://www.iconworldwide.com/krf 
  This past Wednesday evening a robbery and arrest occurred at 46^th 
 and Larchwood. While the incident is troubling, I am pleased to 
 report that an arrest was made by new UCD Officers Ceasar and Gray; 
 both undercover at the time. Lt. McCurdy is trying to get 
 information on the arrest of the second male perpetrator. The 
 details are as follows: 
   Date and Time: Wednesday 10.24.07, 11:00 PM 
 Location: 46^th and Larchwood 
  Details: Complainant W/M 66 yrs. was approached by two B/M’s who 
 began punching the complainant to the ground in an attempt to take 
 his belongings. The males fled the scene; a short time later, one 
 male 

[UC] Halloween stores

2007-10-31 Thread Jim Cummings
Help! we need to get elf ears at the last minute. I went down to south
street last night and could not find any halloween stores. Has anyone
run across a nearby one?

-- 
Jim Cummings

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Re: [UC] OOOPS...

2007-10-31 Thread bob rathmann

I mean Halloween.  Sorry
On Oct 31, 2007, at 10:39 AM, bob rathmann wrote:

Is the Holaween parade today?  What time and where does it start?  If 
we miss it Oscar will never forgive us.

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[UC] Parade?? and Halloween stores

2007-10-31 Thread Dan Widyono
I heard from another parent 4:30 in clark park.  Look for the large throng of
children and parents.  If you miss the start, run through the nearby streets
looking for the large throng of children and parents.

As for the halloween store, I don't know what nearby means since the poster
mentioned south street, but there's the big halloween store on Delaware
Ave. in South Philly.  And of course KMart downtown and Walmart on Del Ave
and BJ's on Oregon, and I'm sure a bunch of others out Baltimore way
(Target).

Dan W.

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 Is the Holaween parade today?  What time and where does it start?  If 
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Re: [UC] Why I'm concerned about police deployment - Force on Force

2007-10-31 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2) UPenn is to be congradulated. The use of UCD is now generic, when 
Philadelphia Police Officers working in UC are now referred to as UCD 
officers.



is the new ucd officer that wendell referred to as 
ceasar the same as the guy named julius caesar, listed 
below as a phila police dept field intelligence officer for 
district 18?


http://www.ppdonline.org/hq_terrorism_field.php

anybody know? and who is grey?


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[UC] [Fwd: [Ucneighbors] Halloween parade]

2007-10-31 Thread Joe Clarke



B Andersen wrote:

Ghosts and goblins!
 
Don't forget the 10th Annual Spruce Hill Halloween Parade tomorrow!
 
We got a mention in the Daily Pennsylvanian 
http://media.www.dailypennsylvanian.com/media/storage/paper882/news/2007/10/30/News/When-Its.A.Little.Tricky.To.Get.A.Treat-3065091.shtml!
 
If you don't have kids and want to volunteer, please email me 
off-list. We still have jobs we need done!
 
See the attached flier:


* The gathering point is the flagpole at Clark Park on October 31.
* The step off for the parade is* 4:30 pm*
* The route will the the usual:
  o Start in Clark par and cross Baltimore at 43rd St
  o Up the north side sidewalk of Baltimore to 44th St
  o 44th St between Baltimore and Larchwood
  o Larchwood between 44th and 43rd
  o 43rd between Baltimore and Osage AND
  o end on the 4200 block of Osage (Little Osage)
* Donated snacks need to be brought directly to the tables on
  Little Osage.



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Ghosts and goblins!

Don't forget the 10th Annual Spruce Hill Halloween Parade tomorrow!

We got a mention in the Daily
Pennsylvanianhttp://media.www.dailypennsylvanian.com/media/storage/paper882/news/2007/10/30/News/When-Its.A.Little.Tricky.To.Get.A.Treat-3065091.shtml
!

If you don't have kids and want to volunteer, please email me off-list. We
still have jobs we need done!

 See the attached flier:

   - The gathering point is the flagpole at Clark Park on October 31.
   - The step off for the parade is* 4:30 pm*
   - The route will the the usual:
  - Start in Clark par and cross Baltimore at 43rd St
  - Up the north side sidewalk of Baltimore to 44th St
  - 44th St between Baltimore and Larchwood
  - Larchwood between 44th and 43rd
  - 43rd between Baltimore and Osage AND
  - end on the 4200 block of Osage (Little Osage)
   - Donated snacks need to be brought directly to the tables on Little
   Osage.
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Re: [UC] Why I'm concerned about police deployment

2007-10-31 Thread Glenn
Wendell writes:

I am pleased to report that an arrest was made by new
UCD Officer...

The police have been very responsive. UCD will step up
Police and Ambassador patrols in the area.


Al and others,

Craig Carnaroli, UCD chief, had a piece about the Penn
expansion in a recent DP article.  Sorry I didn't post
the link.

He seemed to brag that Penn's operating budget was
bigger than the city budget.  I really felt the
message that Penn plutocracy is more important than
the elected government was finally coming through loud
and clear.

A few years ago this was cloaked behind spin like
special service district, community engagement,
upscale, and deliberative democracy.  As they say,
the gloves are off.  

Dennis Kucinich pointed to the constitutional crisis
last night in the Drexel debates.  I think we are in
the midst of part of it here, in the upscale funky
district.

I've been horrified by the district as are many
neighbors, so this Wendell letter is no surprise,
simply confirmation.

Nevertheless, thanks for posting this!

Glenn
















--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In a previous posting, I expressed concern about the
 police deployment  with 
 respect to the killing that occurred outside of Koko
 Bongo on  Sunday morning. 
 Having 10 cops there because there had been an
 altercation the  previous 
 week seemed excessive -- and I wonder whether this
 heavy police  presence 
 contributed to the precipitation of the gunfire.
  
 The reason for the concern is the email message
 reproduced  below, in which 
 Wendell Lewis brags to the UCD Board of Directors 
 about the control this 
 private special services district exerts  over the
 police activity in the area.
  
 I'd like to think that the chain of command for
 decisions as well as  
 responsibility goes up through the ranks to the
 Captain at the 18th Precinct and  
 eventually to the Police Commissioner, City Council,
 and the Mayor. Now, I learn  
 that Messers Ceasar and Gray, and Lt McCurdy, are
 UCD officers and that  
 UCD rather than the Philadelphia Police Dept will
 step up Police ... patrols in 
  the area.
  
  
 Always at your service   ready for a dialog,
 Al Krigman   
 

 
   
 
 Recipients of the email message (the UCD Board of 
 Directors) were: 
 Craig  Carnaroli; Barry Grossbach; David Adelman;
 Della Clark; Dorothy Welch 
 Berlind;  James Tucker; Joe Trainor; Lindsay
 Johnston; Mark Mendenhall; 
 Maureen Rush;  Max Paul; Mike Brooke; Oliver
 Franklin; Susan Phillips; Tony 
 Bartolomeo;  William Schwartz; (police Lt John
 McCurdy).
 The text of the massage was:
 (http://www.iconworldwide.com/krf)  
  
 This past Wednesday evening a  robbery and arrest
 occurred at 46th and 
 Larchwood.  While the  incident is troubling, I am
 pleased to report that an arrest 
 was made by new  UCD Officers Ceasar and Gray; both
 undercover at the time.  
 Lt. McCurdy  is trying to get information on the
 arrest of the second male 
 perpetrator. The  details are as follows:
 
 
  
 Date and Time: Wednesday 10.24.07, 11:00 PM
 Location: 46th and Larchwood
  
 Details: Complainant W/M 66 yrs. was approached by
 two B/M’s who began  
 punching the complainant to the ground in an attempt
 to take his  belongings.  The 
 males fled the scene; a short time later, one male
 was  apprehended and 
 identified by the complainant.  The suspect was 
 identified as B/M 17 yrs. The male 
 was charged with robbery and aggravated  assault
 among other charges.  Both 
 males were on bikes prior to the  robbery. 
 Description on #2 male is B/M in 
 this teen’s wearing dark  clothing.
  
 The police have been very responsive. UCD will step
 up Police and  Ambassador 
 patrols in the area.
  
 Lewis C. Wendell, Executive  Director
 University City  District
 3940-42 Chestnut  Street
 Philadelphia, PA 19104
 Tel: 215/243-0555
 Fax:  215/243-0557
 
 
 
 
 
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 new at http://www.aol.com
 


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Re: [UC] Parade?? and Halloween stores

2007-10-31 Thread Jim Cummings
I went to the target on City Line yesterday. They hardly had anything
in terms of costumes.

On 10/31/07, Dan Widyono [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I heard from another parent 4:30 in clark park.  Look for the large throng of
 children and parents.  If you miss the start, run through the nearby streets
 looking for the large throng of children and parents.

 As for the halloween store, I don't know what nearby means since the poster
 mentioned south street, but there's the big halloween store on Delaware
 Ave. in South Philly.  And of course KMart downtown and Walmart on Del Ave
 and BJ's on Oregon, and I'm sure a bunch of others out Baltimore way
 (Target).

 Dan W.

 On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 10:39:00AM -0500, bob rathmann wrote:
  Is the Holaween parade today?  What time and where does it start?  If
  we miss it Oscar will never forgive us.
 
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Re: [UC] Why I'm concerned about police deployment

2007-10-31 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN

Glenn wrote:

A few years ago this was cloaked behind spin like
special service district, community engagement,
upscale, and deliberative democracy.  As they say,
the gloves are off.  


Dennis Kucinich pointed to the constitutional crisis
last night in the Drexel debates.  I think we are in
the midst of part of it here, in the upscale funky
district.




speaking of deliberative democracy, there was an article 
about that in today's dp, in reference to penn prez amy 
gutmann, who's made that phrase a hallmark of her 
administration:


   http://tinyurl.com/363kfq

excerpt:


University President Amy Gutmann has built her career as
a political theorist in the field of deliberative
democracy, which emphasizes the political values of
openness, transparency and publicity.

Gutmann has for the most part extended her philosophy to
her administration at Penn, extolling these principles in
her four years as president.

But her refusal to disclose the details behind former
Dean of Admissions Lee Stetson's resignation represents
an outlier in a long trend of openness as an academic and
administrator.

Gutmann's seminal work on deliberative democracy,
Democracy and Disagreement, written with Dennis Thompson
of Harvard University, devotes an entire chapter to the
value of publicity, in which she argues that citizens
should be trusted more than leaders with the information
necessary to make decisions.

Deliberative democracy experts disagree over the degree
to which transparency is appropriate, but Gutmann - who
refused to comment for this article - has stressed that
at least some measures for accountability in
decision-making are necessary.

For those institutions that cannot function without high
degrees of secrecy, we suggest some institutional devices
to secure either prior or retrospective accountability,
she wrote in a 1999 essay with Thompson.

Gutmann has stressed before that these principles also
apply to university governance, and when she first
assumed the presidency at Penn, her colleagues said this
academic philosophy would translate well.

It's part of Penn tradition to have a really open and
deliberative process, but it also feeds into Amy's
background and training, Joann Mitchell, a member of
Gutmann's staff at Princeton and Penn, told The Daily
Princetonian at the time.




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Re: [UC] Parade?? and Halloween stores

2007-10-31 Thread Wilma de Soto
Perhaps not.

Still Target was great for a lot of candy eyeballs and bags of brains for my
students.

Brain bags were scarcely enough! :)

So what's wrong with a ghost costume made from a bed sheet?

Happy All Hallows' E'en.




On 10/31/07 12:53 PM, Jim Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I went to the target on City Line yesterday. They hardly had anything
 in terms of costumes.
 
 On 10/31/07, Dan Widyono [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I heard from another parent 4:30 in clark park.  Look for the large throng of
 children and parents.  If you miss the start, run through the nearby streets
 looking for the large throng of children and parents.
 
 As for the halloween store, I don't know what nearby means since the poster
 mentioned south street, but there's the big halloween store on Delaware
 Ave. in South Philly.  And of course KMart downtown and Walmart on Del Ave
 and BJ's on Oregon, and I'm sure a bunch of others out Baltimore way
 (Target).
 
 Dan W.
 
 On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 10:39:00AM -0500, bob rathmann wrote:
 Is the Holaween parade today?  What time and where does it start?  If
 we miss it Oscar will never forgive us.
 
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[UC] Find out about Health Care Alternatives - November 11

2007-10-31 Thread Freda Egnal
Health Care for
People –
Not for Profit!


Fact from Fiction: Health Care Alternatives without the Hype
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Single-Payer advocate
Chuck Pennacchio
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Sunday Nov. 11th 7pm
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(47th south of Baltimore Av)

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Re: [UC] Parade?? and Halloween stores

2007-10-31 Thread Dan Widyono
Ah, sorry, I must have been remembering KMart then.  Bonus: you can get there
via public transit.  Although, if you're still looking for ears by the time
you read this, it's too late :/

Dan W.

On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 12:53:02PM -0400, Jim Cummings wrote:
 I went to the target on City Line yesterday. They hardly had anything
 in terms of costumes.

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Re: [UC] Parade?? and Halloween stores

2007-10-31 Thread Kimm Tynan
Jim,

Get with the program.  You need to shop for Halloween in August.  They¹ve
all moved on to Christmas by now.

Kimm


On 10/31/07 12:53 PM, Jim Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I went to the target on City Line yesterday. They hardly had anything
 in terms of costumes.
 
 On 10/31/07, Dan Widyono [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I heard from another parent 4:30 in clark park.  Look for the large throng
 of
  children and parents.  If you miss the start, run through the nearby
 streets
  looking for the large throng of children and parents.
 
  As for the halloween store, I don't know what nearby means since the
 poster
  mentioned south street, but there's the big halloween store on Delaware
  Ave. in South Philly.  And of course KMart downtown and Walmart on Del Ave
  and BJ's on Oregon, and I'm sure a bunch of others out Baltimore way
  (Target).
 
  Dan W.
 
  On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 10:39:00AM -0500, bob rathmann wrote:
   Is the Holaween parade today?  What time and where does it start?  If
   we miss it Oscar will never forgive us.
  
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Re: [UC] Parade?? and Halloween stores

2007-10-31 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN

Dan Widyono wrote:

Ah, sorry, I must have been remembering KMart then.  Bonus: you can get there
via public transit.  Although, if you're still looking for ears by the time
you read this, it's too late :/





Jim Cummings wrote:

I went to the target on City Line yesterday. They hardly had anything
in terms of costumes.





halloween isn't just a costume, it's a state of mind, an 
orange state of mind...



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