[UC] Another betrayal, FOCP/SHCA
New subscribers don't realize why Vice President Brian Siano immediately called several of us silly and stupid for calling the taxpayer funded expansion of the Green Line Cafe, a taxpayer funded expansion of the Green Line Cafe. Instead of informing the community or the taxpayers of Philadelphia about the plot to steal our money and a new parking war, these damn civic associations once again were meeting secretly to steal our money and betray our rights regarding community decisions. It's truly Orwellian that we are supposed to call the taxpayer funded expansion of the coffee shop, a Parklet. We read in the paper that Rina Cutler was babbling about community partnerships again. Now we know that she was talking about the secret inclusion of Siano and presumably that damned SHCA too. (No you weren't too busy and uninformed that you missed public transparency about the parklet. Citizens found out about it just like Karen described) Just like the imperial government is now nothing more than a mechanism to rob the people and enrich the powerful elite, local residents know that the damn civic associations never ever serve the people of the community, as the thoughtpolice pretend. Siano and his damned FOCP should have announced the Parklet plot publicly, long ago, instead of waiting until we discussed the ribbon cutting to call us silly and stupid for not believing the Orwellian bullshit about a Parklet. If you remember, Winston Smith was tortured to confess that 2 plus 2 equaled 5. But he also was tortured until he confessed that 2 plus 2 was always 5, and that he had know memory that 2 plus 2 was ever anything but 5. Of course, Winston Smith was called insane exactly like Siano, West, and Van Helder call Glenn Moyer insane. Of course, Siano and the FOCP/SHCA can never offer anything but gibberish about its secret betrayals. And of course, they're always going to immediately attack any of us who continue to tell our neighbors and Philadelphia taxpayers that 2 plus 2 is actually 4. These damn civic associations were always tiny gangs designed for astroturfing. Back in the twentieth century, community members could ignore them as a bunch of cranks. But now, the civic associations are a rubber stamp for the powerful corporate/Wharton propaganda machine. People cannot ignore the role of Siano and the civic associations, and hope to one day regain hope for a government for the people! You better get ready for new trash taxes, tickets, and BID's while you drink Victory coffee and celebrate world peace at the parklet with Siano and the other thoughtpolice. Fuck the FOCP and fuck the SHCA! Glenn Moyer, a citizen of the world You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Re: Parking Spaces @ 43rd Baltimore
Nice one. Perhaps my simple minded comment struck a nerve with Glenn. On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Mike VanHelder mvanhel...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74kOgbPQ7LI On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 8:03 AM, Glenn glen...@earthlink.net wrote: On 8/11/2011 11:17 PM, robert rathmann wrote: Dude... get a life or at least take the time to enjoy the one you have. Oh Ratmann, let's not confuse enjoyment with stupidity! Thoughtful happy grownups have been discussing the flawed dealings of government. Your type of ad hominem interjection is rather pathetic and bullies the listserv readers; Glenn and others will shut up because I call Glenn miserable. My beloved Siano and Parklet have been brilliantly defended. And I didn't need to defend or support my Parklet with no damn rational statements. I'm happy, happy, happy! Rat, if you're too stupid to profess your love for Siano or represent your positions on the Parklet, let the discussions for the mature adults! Happy and contented, Glenn You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
[UC] Winston spotted in the village
Many people thought that Winston Smith died back in 1984. But someone spiked his Victory gin, and it turns out that he just had a thirty year hangover. In 2011, Winston decided to take a funky vibe dollar stroll up the brightly lit Baltimore Ave commercial corridor looking for cleaner safer walkability amenities in the special democracy district. On the way, he spotted the Green Line Cafe and decided to stop in for an upscale Victory coffee to celebrate world peace as ordered by CNN. After the upscale real estate lady ordered her third triple latte and passed a little gas, it was Winston's turn to order. Before asking for his Victory Coffee, Winston decided to compliment the owner for his new expanded seating area on 43rd St. Winston said to the owner, I really like the ugliness of your new upscale seating area. I'm sure our dear big brothers at Penn Praxis approve. Before Winston could end the compliment with the obligatory, hail to UCD; Siano pulled his pants up to his shoulders and sprang to his feet. In another corner of the room, Mr West from the Ministry of Truth started bouncing around like a Mexican jumping bean. The smart Love drones from the Ministry of Justice could already be heard circling above the newly redesigned park when Van Helshit shouted into one of the many gadgets he was plugged into, we've got a thoughtcrime at the parklet! Swarm! Swarm! As all the good parklet people ran quickly away from Winston, jackbooted riot police swarmed through the parklet door with their Love tazers. With helpless resignation the insane Winston asked his torturers, Are you going to vaporize me in Clark park where you vaporized Glenn Moyer At that, West, Siano, and Van Helshit burst into approved laughter. No such leftist wanker named, Glenn Moyer, ever existed, they cackled in unison. And big brother had greatly improved since 1984. All parklets in the village had had telescreens covering every nanometer of the Democracy district installed years earlier. Controlled from the Franklin building, the smart Love drones had been deployed to neutralize the thoughtcrime the moment the insane Winston uttered the heresy. In a flash, Winston was vaporized right at the door of the parklet. As West, Siano, and Van Helshit obediently went back to their lattes and the lightly moderated UCNeighbors happy listserv, all thoughts went back to the happy good children. There hadn't been a proper hanging at Clark Park since all the whores, drug addicts, and gangs were locked up in a chain gang. Now that CNN declared world peace, how were the good children going to be properly prepared for Hate Week in a world free of wars and public executions? Gotta go now. I hear civic association leaders knocking at my door. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Re: Parking Spaces @ 43rd Baltimore
I'm sorry Glenn, I wasn't confusing your stupidity with your enjoyment. I'm afraid that my feelings on the parklet are less than emotional. It's a fun, temporary display. I do however enjoy and support most creative forms of street art (or whatever you are going to call it in rebuttal). If the temporary inconvenience of losing two parking spaces is making it hard for people to manage they're parking needs then you can take my spot for the time being. let me know and I will save a spot for you with my folding chairs (I stole them from Clark Park btw). Much of the reasons for living in this neighborhood is the never ending diversity of ideas and creative displays that our neighbors demonstrate in many ways. The city is a tight squeeze and we're all in it together. If we spent less time selfishly complaining about minor inconveniences and embrace the cultural expressions and creativeness of those who make things happen we might smile a bit more. As for Clark Park... it's my children's backyard. We are thankful that there are changes being made and that the Park has become a more friendly space for most. The amount of folks that use the north side of the park speaks for the positive change that's happening. I'm not going to sit here and say that every change is good and that any change is going to satisfy everyone but I'm not an angry guy with too much time and a personal agenda. I have a family, a real job which keeps me from becoming obsessed with every blade of grass that is damaged and every fart that is expelled from the powers working hard to make West Philly Safer, more creative, and a great place to raise a family. Lastly, I will have to confess that my love for Siano is undeclared as is my love for Glenn. Sorry. I've now addressed my shallow, selfish feelings about these things. I'm out. I will continue to enjoy reading the ever so entertaining discussions like this one. Rock on Glenn. Love, Rat On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 8:03 AM, Glenn glen...@earthlink.net wrote: On 8/11/2011 11:17 PM, robert rathmann wrote: Dude... get a life or at least take the time to enjoy the one you have. Oh Ratmann, let's not confuse enjoyment with stupidity! Thoughtful happy grownups have been discussing the flawed dealings of government. Your type of ad hominem interjection is rather pathetic and bullies the listserv readers; Glenn and others will shut up because I call Glenn miserable. My beloved Siano and Parklet have been brilliantly defended. And I didn't need to defend or support my Parklet with no damn rational statements. I'm happy, happy, happy! Rat, if you're too stupid to profess your love for Siano or represent your positions on the Parklet, let the discussions for the mature adults! Happy and contented, Glenn You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Re: Parking Spaces @ 43rd Baltimore
Gavin W. Burris wrote: There is no nerve to strike As I ride by the parklet on my bike Please, no latte for me I prefer black coffee or some tea Academia may be my industry of choice I can think of few others that give the mind such voice for what it's worth, ucd is not academia. yes, ucd is founded and funded by penn, but its mission and role are not academic (compared, say, to other penn intrusions into the community, like the LIFE program al mentions or other 'community partnerships' that involve penn students ['civic scholars'] working with neighborhood entities for class credit or graduate work). ucd's rather pedestrian role is to transform our neighborhood into a whitewashed ghetto of 'clean and safe' people in their proper places, where, among other fun, never-ending creative ideas, ucd-defined desirable businesses are promoted and supported, while undesirable businesses are marginalized and relocated. ucd works in tandem with campus apartments (another non-academic arm of the university with enlightened self-interest) to accomplish this, and the neighorhood community associations and voodoo polling are the rubber stamps -- an arrangement that neatly gets around city hall while appearing to be inclusive and representative. along with perverting our citizenship, ucd perverts free-market consumerism as well: as ucd does its work, it removes the premise that any local business should succeed or fail depending on local demand by creating and funding an artificial penn-positioned business landscape -- one which they are working to be funded and sustained, ultimately, by taxpaying (eg. parklets, bid). many consumers living here buy into this, which is likely why many at their laptops are reduced to tapping out doggerel. academic voices? ha. .. UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Re: Parking Spaces @ 43rd Baltimore
If we spent less time selfishly complaining about minor inconveniences and embrace the cultural expressions and creativeness of those who make things happen we might smile a bit more. Ratmann, I said the same thing to a bunch of selfish peace activists. If they would stop their annoying complaining, we could smile and enjoy our lovely wars. If they understood that citizenship is an obsessed selfish act like you do, we would all feel happy happy joy joy and love for our creative wars. The funny thing is that when you positive thinking entitled rats hear about a flash mob, you scream the loudest for justice and revenge. Why don't you get stop and frisked and then send your love? Will you smile when the creative one's yank away your rights as a citizen or your kids rights? It would be a minor inconvenience isn't that right, Rat? This happy happy joy shit is just another level of bullshit. It brings the same amount of happiness as all other addictions. But you mindless one's use the law of positive thinking as a weapon against honest citizens. Give up your health care and send your kids to an Afghan village, and then sing your happy happy joy song. If you really believe that parklets, gadgets, and propaganda bring happiness, you simply delude yourself. Yes, you are selfish when you ridicule the citizens, who actually speak up and work for justice. The route to true happiness is revealed in the dharma. On 8/13/2011 12:10 PM, robert rathmann wrote: I'm sorry Glenn, I wasn't confusing your stupidity with your enjoyment. I'm afraid that my feelings on the parklet are less than emotional. It's a fun, temporary display. I do however enjoy and support most creative forms of street art (or whatever you are going to call it in rebuttal). If the temporary inconvenience of losing two parking spaces is making it hard for people to manage they're parking needs then you can take my spot for the time being. let me know and I will save a spot for you with my folding chairs (I stole them from Clark Park btw). Much of the reasons for living in this neighborhood is the never ending diversity of ideas and creative displays that our neighbors demonstrate in many ways. The city is a tight squeeze and we're all in it together. If we spent less time selfishly complaining about minor inconveniences and embrace the cultural expressions and creativeness of those who make things happen we might smile a bit more. As for Clark Park... it's my children's backyard. We are thankful that there are changes being made and that the Park has become a more friendly space for most. The amount of folks that use the north side of the park speaks for the positive change that's happening. I'm not going to sit here and say that every change is good and that any change is going to satisfy everyone but I'm not an angry guy with too much time and a personal agenda. I have a family, a real job which keeps me from becoming obsessed with every blade of grass that is damaged and every fart that is expelled from the powers working hard to make West Philly Safer, more creative, and a great place to raise a family. Lastly, I will have to confess that my love for Siano is undeclared as is my love for Glenn. Sorry. I've now addressed my shallow, selfish feelings about these things. I'm out. I will continue to enjoy reading the ever so entertaining discussions like this one. Rock on Glenn. Love, Rat On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 8:03 AM, Glennglen...@earthlink.net wrote: On 8/11/2011 11:17 PM, robert rathmann wrote: Dude... get a life or at least take the time to enjoy the one you have. Oh Ratmann, let's not confuse enjoyment with stupidity! Thoughtful happy grownups have been discussing the flawed dealings of government. Your type of ad hominem interjection is rather pathetic and bullies the listserv readers; Glenn and others will shut up because I call Glenn miserable. My beloved Siano and Parklet have been brilliantly defended. And I didn't need to defend or support my Parklet with no damn rational statements. I'm happy, happy, happy! Rat, if you're too stupid to profess your love for Siano or represent your positions on the Parklet, let the discussions for the mature adults! Happy and contented, Glenn You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.901 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3831 - Release Date: 08/13/11 02:34:00
Re: [UC] Re: Parking Spaces @ 43rd Baltimore
The rebut that I expected. I do not however, expect to be lumped in with a group that I lay no public claim to. My dear Mr. Mohel... I explained that my feelings were not as emotional as yours and I wrote of MY feelings on a very superficial level. I have no idea what the so called peace activists had done to you to provoke such hard feelings nor do I see where I have said anything that expressed concern for my life due to flash mobs, but give me full credit for the way you feel about what I personally said. I have not ridiculed you or your followers. Actually, I believe we need people like you to keep the rest of us thinking. Thank you for that Mohel. On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Glenn glen...@earthlink.net wrote: If we spent less time selfishly complaining about minor inconveniences and embrace the cultural expressions and creativeness of those who make things happen we might smile a bit more. Ratmann, I said the same thing to a bunch of selfish peace activists. If they would stop their annoying complaining, we could smile and enjoy our lovely wars. If they understood that citizenship is an obsessed selfish act like you do, we would all feel happy happy joy joy and love for our creative wars. The funny thing is that when you positive thinking entitled rats hear about a flash mob, you scream the loudest for justice and revenge. Why don't you get stop and frisked and then send your love? Will you smile when the creative one's yank away your rights as a citizen or your kids rights? It would be a minor inconvenience isn't that right, Rat? This happy happy joy shit is just another level of bullshit. It brings the same amount of happiness as all other addictions. But you mindless one's use the law of positive thinking as a weapon against honest citizens. Give up your health care and send your kids to an Afghan village, and then sing your happy happy joy song. If you really believe that parklets, gadgets, and propaganda bring happiness, you simply delude yourself. Yes, you are selfish when you ridicule the citizens, who actually speak up and work for justice. The route to true happiness is revealed in the dharma. On 8/13/2011 12:10 PM, robert rathmann wrote: I'm sorry Glenn, I wasn't confusing your stupidity with your enjoyment. I'm afraid that my feelings on the parklet are less than emotional. It's a fun, temporary display. I do however enjoy and support most creative forms of street art (or whatever you are going to call it in rebuttal). If the temporary inconvenience of losing two parking spaces is making it hard for people to manage they're parking needs then you can take my spot for the time being. let me know and I will save a spot for you with my folding chairs (I stole them from Clark Park btw). Much of the reasons for living in this neighborhood is the never ending diversity of ideas and creative displays that our neighbors demonstrate in many ways. The city is a tight squeeze and we're all in it together. If we spent less time selfishly complaining about minor inconveniences and embrace the cultural expressions and creativeness of those who make things happen we might smile a bit more. As for Clark Park... it's my children's backyard. We are thankful that there are changes being made and that the Park has become a more friendly space for most. The amount of folks that use the north side of the park speaks for the positive change that's happening. I'm not going to sit here and say that every change is good and that any change is going to satisfy everyone but I'm not an angry guy with too much time and a personal agenda. I have a family, a real job which keeps me from becoming obsessed with every blade of grass that is damaged and every fart that is expelled from the powers working hard to make West Philly Safer, more creative, and a great place to raise a family. Lastly, I will have to confess that my love for Siano is undeclared as is my love for Glenn. Sorry. I've now addressed my shallow, selfish feelings about these things. I'm out. I will continue to enjoy reading the ever so entertaining discussions like this one. Rock on Glenn. Love, Rat On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 8:03 AM, Glenn glen...@earthlink.net wrote: On 8/11/2011 11:17 PM, robert rathmann wrote: Dude... get a life or at least take the time to enjoy the one you have. Oh Ratmann, let's not confuse enjoyment with stupidity! Thoughtful happy grownups have been discussing the flawed dealings of government. Your type of ad hominem interjection is rather pathetic and bullies the listserv readers; Glenn and others will shut up because I call Glenn miserable. My beloved Siano and Parklet have been brilliantly defended. And I didn't need to defend or support my Parklet with no damn rational statements. I'm happy, happy, happy! Rat, if you're too stupid to profess your love for Siano or represent your positions on the Parklet,
Re: [UC] Re:response to Rat Parking Spaces @ 43rd Baltimore
On 8/13/2011 1:56 PM, robert rathmann wrote: I have not ridiculed you or your followers. Rat writes: Dude... get a life or at least take the time to enjoy the one you have. OK Here is the credit for what you wrote to begin this exchange. This was your entire post. Everyone can see that you are not telling the truth. It is called ad hominem. You lamely attempted to attack my personality in an attempt to silence the serious issues I addressed. You interjected nothing more. It is considered a fallacy of logic. It doesn't support your happiness delusions, nor does it refute anything I said. This stuff doesn't make you or Van Helder look smart except to each other. It is considered an attempt to bully. It doesn't effect me because I've been dealing with the FOCP for years and ad hominem is their primary strategy when they are betraying the people of this community. But it bullies the people on the listserv who might be intimidated from speaking up because of jackasses like Van Helder, FOCP leaders, and others who copy them. I just insulted FOCP leaders and Van Helder. That is not the ad hominem fallacy because I've identified the behavior that deserves those appropriate insults. Do you understand the difference? I shortened your name to Rat to insult you and I did that because of your use of ad hominem. Lots of people dishonestly equate insults with ad hominem when they are trying to deceive people and then cry out, civility. Deceptions are not the same as civility. And insulting the jackasses is sometimes important. It often helps show that bullies and oppressors can be confronted. I would try to get you to reevaluate calling the loss of rights of those outside your circles, a minor inconvenience. Nor is the misuse of taxpayer money a minor inconvenience while so many people suffer severe hardships! But you don't appear to have sufficient civic literacy or empathy for others to make the effort worth while. The reason that Americans are not smiling as much as I do is not a lack of parklets or ingratitude to dishonest gentrifiers, who you call creative. Living life fully and honestly, Glenn You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Re:response to Rat Parking Spaces @ 43rd Baltimore
Thank you once again for showing us all exactly who you are and why. You're expert use of the English language and the ability to use it makes your greatness shine. There is however a bombastic edge that doesn't go unnoticed. You do provide us with a great service Mohel and I can't take that away from you. I will now take your next wave of $5 words without further response. On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Glenn glen...@earthlink.net wrote: On 8/13/2011 1:56 PM, robert rathmann wrote: I have not ridiculed you or your followers. Rat writes: Dude... get a life or at least take the time to enjoy the one you have. OK Here is the credit for what you wrote to begin this exchange. This was your entire post. Everyone can see that you are not telling the truth. It is called ad hominem. You lamely attempted to attack my personality in an attempt to silence the serious issues I addressed. You interjected nothing more. It is considered a fallacy of logic. It doesn't support your happiness delusions, nor does it refute anything I said. This stuff doesn't make you or Van Helder look smart except to each other. It is considered an attempt to bully. It doesn't effect me because I've been dealing with the FOCP for years and ad hominem is their primary strategy when they are betraying the people of this community. But it bullies the people on the listserv who might be intimidated from speaking up because of jackasses like Van Helder, FOCP leaders, and others who copy them. I just insulted FOCP leaders and Van Helder. That is not the ad hominem fallacy because I've identified the behavior that deserves those appropriate insults. Do you understand the difference? I shortened your name to Rat to insult you and I did that because of your use of ad hominem. Lots of people dishonestly equate insults with ad hominem when they are trying to deceive people and then cry out, civility. Deceptions are not the same as civility. And insulting the jackasses is sometimes important. It often helps show that bullies and oppressors can be confronted. I would try to get you to reevaluate calling the loss of rights of those outside your circles, a minor inconvenience. Nor is the misuse of taxpayer money a minor inconvenience while so many people suffer severe hardships! But you don't appear to have sufficient civic literacy or empathy for others to make the effort worth while. The reason that Americans are not smiling as much as I do is not a lack of parklets or ingratitude to dishonest gentrifiers, who you call creative. Living life fully and honestly, Glenn You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Re:response to Rat Parking Spaces @ 43rd Baltimore
You seem like a sad person. Robert, I was not sufficiently bombastic when I only briefly mentioned that the path to real happiness lies in the teachings of the Buddha. I sincerely hope you pick up some literature. Don't think of the dharma as a religion, like the Abrahamic monotheism all around us. Think of it as a way of life and reaching for enlightenment. Also,the path of the Bodhisattva teaches us a willingness to sacrifice some of our personal happiness for the benefit of others, but following one's duty brings a much deeper joy anyway. This cult of positive thinking that is used to manipulate Americans is very very dangerous. Optimism and joy are real and good. Self delusion and an unrealistic demand to always be happy sets people up for depression, pessimism, and oppression. It's used in the corporate media by the powerful elite to make us helpless consumers. I see the pessimism come through a great deal here in the happy UC paradise. And it allows us to turn our backs on our fellow Philadelphians and except the misery that our military empire causes globally. Going with the flow is not an option for me, since I truly believe that our society and republic is collapsing. I see incredible pain and suffering in the world directly caused by a barbaric economic system and ruthless oppression. I connect the loss of our values and forgetting the meaning of the Amendments to the Constitution for much of that suffering. I also see the loss of our values right here with the parklet, the gentrification, and the redesign of Clark Park, as we allow our neighboring communities to literally starve while the middle class trades away the rights of future generations. If people don't rise up in their neighborhoods and reclaim what has been lost (that which gave us hope for the future), we have no chance to save the planet or solve the massive suffering around the world. Pretending that parklets and RoundUP are green will not make anyone happy. Pretending that transparency and inclusion are not the keystones of all republics will not make anyone happy. (We've forgotten nearly everything about transparency, fairness, and inclusion.) Pretending that lies are truth will not make anyone happy. I may not be successful with anything, but I cannot be stopped by personal attacks. I plan to stand with our brothers and sisters in Washington this October and start that which the great Kathy Change called the transformation, so maybe the riot police will silence me. Glenn PS: All people have the buddha nature inside of them, and each of us is connected to all life on the planet On 8/13/2011 5:07 PM, robert rathmann wrote: Thank you once again for showing us all exactly who you are and why. You're expert use of the English language and the ability to use it makes your greatness shine. There is however a bombastic edge that doesn't go unnoticed. You do provide us with a great service Mohel and I can't take that away from you. I will now take your next wave of $5 words without further response. On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Glennglen...@earthlink.net wrote: On 8/13/2011 1:56 PM, robert rathmann wrote: I have not ridiculed you or your followers. Rat writes: Dude... get a life or at least take the time to enjoy the one you have. OK Here is the credit for what you wrote to begin this exchange. This was your entire post. Everyone can see that you are not telling the truth. It is called ad hominem. You lamely attempted to attack my personality in an attempt to silence the serious issues I addressed. You interjected nothing more. It is considered a fallacy of logic. It doesn't support your happiness delusions, nor does it refute anything I said. This stuff doesn't make you or Van Helder look smart except to each other. It is considered an attempt to bully. It doesn't effect me because I've been dealing with the FOCP for years and ad hominem is their primary strategy when they are betraying the people of this community. But it bullies the people on the listserv who might be intimidated from speaking up because of jackasses like Van Helder, FOCP leaders, and others who copy them. I just insulted FOCP leaders and Van Helder. That is not the ad hominem fallacy because I've identified the behavior that deserves those appropriate insults. Do you understand the difference? I shortened your name to Rat to insult you and I did that because of your use of ad hominem. Lots of people dishonestly equate insults with ad hominem when they are trying to deceive people and then cry out, civility. Deceptions are not the same as civility. And insulting the jackasses is sometimes important. It often helps show that bullies and oppressors can be confronted. I would try to get you to reevaluate calling the loss of rights of those outside your circles, a minor inconvenience. Nor is the misuse of taxpayer money a minor inconvenience while so many people suffer
[UC] Teens being rounded up, links
This is unbelievable stupidity. How many libraries and rec centers will be shut down to pay for the militarization of the streets? As they throw the families into a financial catastrophe, how much violence and damage to Philadelphia teens and families will result from this PR performance for wealthy suburbanites and Nutter's bosses at Penn. This is absolutely terrible! Warn the kids and help them organize for non-violent revolution! http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20110813_Phila__curfews_first_night_nets_50_juveniles.html http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20110813_Teens_meet_Mr__Curfew.html?cmpid=125459078 You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
