Re: [UC] 40th Street Hotel letter - an interesting reply
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, while it may be that in court you don't disclose your strategy, you do disclose your evidence and issues before trial.? The evidence comes out in discovery and the issues should be framed in the pleadings. Paul Paul, It seems that we may agree that this hotel project could be considered like an adversarial occurrence similar to court proceedings. Since Lussenhop has refused to disclose the massive evidence he must have assembled, do you think his petition should be summarily dismissed on the basis of contempt? Am I correct that in court the defendant (the community) must also be allowed to see evidence used against us before a decision is made? It seems that with this historical commission case the right to discovery is only for the benefit of the powerful side. Lussenhop/Campus Apts. seem to have everything in advance and the defendant gets to see nothing but the newspaper report, which exposed this assault. Is that UC Review report all Lussenhop has assembled to present today, I wonder? In community vs. Lussenhop, it would seem that only a kangaroo court would allow such a lopsided advantage just because he is a crony of Penn. These corporate clowns arent great friends of the funky neighborhood. We should never forget that they make it an adversarial relationship through secrecy and astroturfing and always always try to stack the deck then run out the clock! Thanks for the clarifying explanation about evidence in court. Your buddy, Glenn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: univcity@list.purple.com Sent: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 8:45 am Subject: Re: [UC] 40th Street Hotel letter - an interesting reply In a message dated 10/21/2007 11:49:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hopefully without taking sides in this issue.I'm curious about your concern.? Why is it better to surprise the developer with your concerns?? It seems to me that providing the developer with time to consider your concerns allows him to more thoughtfully take them into consideration. Oh, c'mon Stephen. It obviously biases the proceedings at the Architectural Committee meeting. Does one side of a court battle tell the other its strategy? ? If, in fact, someone working for the PHC leaked this information to Lussenhop, it's a breach of conduct and ethics that could justifiably result in immediate job termination. ? Always at your service ready for a dialog, Al Krigman See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] 40th Street Hotel letter - an interesting reply
In a message dated 10/22/2007 11:59:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My point was in regards to whether or not it's more beneficial to the process and the community for the developer to know the concerns of the community prior to the meeting. If Penn or it's developer (Lussenhop) wanted to know the concerns of the community -- ostensibly to get inputs and engage in a dialog to reach some kind accommodation -- they/he would have presented some basic ideas then held one or more community forums prior to starting the legal processes into motion. Getting this information the way he did, under the table -- as it were -- is just a way to prepare for objections, not to understand concerns and try to work with people who are worried about the implications as they affect the quality of their lives. Always at your service ready for a dialog, Al Krigman ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
Re: [UC] 40th Street Hotel letter - an interesting reply
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My point was in regards to whether or not it's more beneficial to the process and the community for the developer to know the concerns of the community prior to the meeting. If Penn or it's developer (Lussenhop) wanted to know the concerns of the community -- ostensibly to get inputs and engage in a dialog to reach some kind accommodation -- they/he would have presented some basic ideas then held one or more community forums prior to starting the legal processes into motion. Getting this information the way he did, under the table -- as it were -- is just a way to prepare for objections, not to understand concerns and try to work with people who are worried about the implications as they affect the quality of their lives. this whole question of stephen's is rather odd, and I think you and glenn and others have shown pretty clearly why. what isn't clear yet is whether anyone else from the community or this list received an email from the developer, tom lussenhop. others besides karen heenan have written comments on this list (and in the university city review) about the proposed hotel. have they been contacted by lussenhop? also, in tom lussenhop's response to karen, he said there's been 'a lot of meetings.' can anyone here tell us where the community meetings about this were held? when? how were they publicized? what were the results (minutes posted anywhere?) in his message to karen, tom said that one of the outcomes of the proposed hotel would be to introduce 'new (more responsible) neighbors' to the area. .. UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN [aka laserbeam®] [aka ray] SERIAL LIAR. CALL FOR RATES. It is very clear on this listserve who these people are. Ray has admitted being connected to this forger. -- Tony West Ray's falsehoods are more sophisticated, more believable -- Tony West __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] 40th Street Hotel letter - an interesting reply
In a message dated 10/21/2007 11:49:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hopefully without taking sides in this issue.I'm curious about your concern. Why is it better to surprise the developer with your concerns? It seems to me that providing the developer with time to consider your concerns allows him to more thoughtfully take them into consideration. Oh, c'mon Stephen. It obviously biases the proceedings at the Architectural Committee meeting. Does one side of a court battle tell the other its strategy? If, in fact, someone working for the PHC leaked this information to Lussenhop, it's a breach of conduct and ethics that could justifiably result in immediate job termination. Always at your service ready for a dialog, Al Krigman ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
Re: [UC] 40th Street Hotel letter - an interesting reply
--- Doc Baldy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is it better to surprise the developer with your concerns? It seems to me that providing the developer with time to consider your concerns allows him to more thoughtfully take them into consideration. Best, Stephen Hi Stephen, Youre a nice guy so I think you want to give Penn and Mr. Lussenhop the benefit of the doubt. Consider this alternative to your statement -Why is it better to surprise the citizens with all plans? It seems to me that providing the citizens with time to consider corporate plans allows them to more thoughtfully take them into consideration.- Back in July, Mr. Lussenhop tried to get the historic property de-listed without informing the community. In my opinion, historic preservation of the neighborhood is important to a great number of the residents of this community. It seems we are always discovering Penn driven plans at the last minute or after it is too late for the many voices of the community to weigh in. Before the newspaper article exposed this plan, Mr. Lussenhop, Campus Apts, etc, attempted a slam-dunk with this hotel project. Determining what can be gotten away with is not the same as disclosure and asking for community feedback. The fact that an attempt to de-list this historic building was attempted secretly months ago shows that the developers have no interest with community concerns. Youve seen people put emphasis on appropriate process. When someone is sneaky and tries to skip an appropriate process, it negatively reflects upon their intentions and credibility. In my opinion, it would be naïve to take any more about the intentions of this project and developer on blind faith. The other problem here is government; its relationship to the people; and its role as corporate partner. There have been many times described on the uncensored list in which agencies of our city government appear to be accountable and directed from Penn Board rooms rather than accountable to the people. The police, LI, the streets department, the Dept of Recreation, etc., have been described crossing the line with exuberance in corporate driven planning. Our neighbors are sharing their concerns at the last minute because Mr. Lussenhop tried to keep them in the dark for months after he should have disclosed the plan. As individuals scramble to just get their concerns heard, it looks like The Phila. Historical Commission is forwarding those concerns to that secretive developer immediately. This could suggest serious problems with this agency as an impartial adjudicator. Its not only stacking the deck but also putting mirrors behind the backs of the little people. Remember, if hearing community concerns was desired, the developer would have disclosed the plan before attempting to get the building de-listed. This is more of that slam-dunk attempt. Why does the community need to fight and beg for fair treatment while the powerful disingenuous corporate entity is given every advantage? If you did have views on this project, how would you feel about getting slam-dunked? Think about the implications of all this, Stephen. Best, Glenn On 10/21/07, Karen Heenan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I emailed a letter to the PHC on Friday setting forth my feelings about the proposed hotel. On Friday evening, at 6:14, I got a response. Not from anyone at the PHC, but from Tom Lussenhop, our friendly neighborhood hotel developer. I didn't send my letter to Mr. Lussenhop, and while I cc'd my letter to the SHCA zoning committee, that letter went out by snail mail, so he didn't get it from them. I'm curious how he got a copy of my letter within 5 hours of my sending it to someone other than him. Maybe it's me, but I don't think that it's appropriate for the PHC to forward letters from residents to Mr. Lussenhop prior to the hearing - isn't that giving him advance opportunity to respond to any comments we may have? Also, the letter ended up in my junk mail folder, and when I clicked not junk, MSN asked it I wanted to add that mailing list to my safe lists. Apparently my response was one of many that Mr. Lussenhop sent out that day. Karen - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 6:14 PM Subject: Hi Tom Lussenhop here. Your friendly neighborhood hotel developer. Since you took the time to offer some thoughtful comments, I thought I'd respond. First, the hotel I am proposing is an extended stay hotel. That is, somewhere where the thousands of visitors to University City's institutions can stay for a 6 to 8 days (avergae stay) and not have to drive but can walk to the institutions. Harvard and MIT have several such hotels. The hotel is more like an apartment building since there is no meeting space...just quiet rooms with kitchens.
Re: [UC] 40th Street Hotel letter - an interesting reply
Like it or not, zoning change involves a petitioner someone planning some benefit for themselves (or their agenda/goals if a nonprofit) requesting an accommodation/change from neighbors and existing communities. I do not see the benefit in revealing names or contact info of those who have objections (or even questions). Outing PEOPLE creates a system for identifying individuals who 'need' to be suppressed or converted, either by bullying and or bribery. Addressing the QUESTIONS and CONCERNS of the community, while permitting questioners to remain anonymous, at least during the early stages, keeps the focus upon the track record of the developer and is a better method of analyzing the features and benefits of the proposed change/development. I think Karen's concern is valid. Further, information should be easily available to the entire community, through door-to-door delivery, not just to those who need persuading, or those on all the current computer lists. Best! Liz On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 23:46:24 -0400 Doc Baldy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Karen, I don't think that it's appropriate for the PHC to forward letters from residents to Mr. Lussenhop prior to the hearing - isn't that giving him advance opportunity to respond to any comments we may have? Hopefully without taking sides in this issue.I'm curious about your concern. Why is it better to surprise the developer with your concerns? It seems to me that providing the developer with time to consider your concerns allows him to more thoughtfully take them into consideration. Best, Stephen On 10/21/07, Karen Heenan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I emailed a letter to the PHC on Friday setting forth my feelings about the proposed hotel. On Friday evening, at 6:14, I got a response. Not from anyone at the PHC, but from Tom Lussenhop, our friendly neighborhood hotel developer. I didn't send my letter to Mr. Lussenhop, and while I cc'd my letter to the SHCA zoning committee, that letter went out by snail mail, so he didn't get it from them. I'm curious how he got a copy of my letter within 5 hours of my sending it to someone other than him. Maybe it's me, but I don't think that it's appropriate for the PHC to forward letters from residents to Mr. Lussenhop prior to the hearing - isn't that giving him advance opportunity to respond to any comments we may have? Also, the letter ended up in my junk mail folder, and when I clicked not junk, MSN asked it I wanted to add that mailing list to my safe lists. Apparently my response was one of many that Mr. Lussenhop sent out that day. Karen - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 6:14 PM Subject: Hi Tom Lussenhop here. Your friendly neighborhood hotel developer. Since you took the time to offer some thoughtful comments, I thought I'd respond. First, the hotel I am proposing is an extended stay hotel. That is, somewhere where the thousands of visitors to University City's institutions can stay for a 6 to 8 days (avergae stay) and not have to drive but can walk to the institutions. Harvard and MIT have several such hotels. The hotel is more like an apartment building since there is no meeting space...just quiet rooms with kitchens. Guests will be able to shop on 40th Street, take the trolley to Center City etc. The shop owners on 40th Street love the project. Talk, for example, to Larry at The Last Word bookshop. Second, there are 120 parcels located on the 3900 and 4000 blocks of Pine and Baltimore. I have letters of support from the owners of 90 of them. Of course they are overwhelmingly investor owned properties but that is the reality of this location and has been for 40 years. I think the hotel and restaurant cafe will introduce new (more responisble) neighbors to the area. Who knows? Maybe even a couple of nice cafes or restauarants might pop up! There will be community meetings coming up and I hope you will come. Despite what you have read, there have been a lot of meetings. Best, Tom 4244 Osage Ave You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. -- -- Studio 34 Yoga http://www.studio34yoga.com You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. Elizabeth Campion Cell Phone: 215-880-2930 215-546-0550 Main, -546-9871 fax, Desk + VM: 215-790-5653 PRUDENTIAL, FOX ROACH REALTORS, LLC Please read Consumer Notice
Re: [UC] 40th Street Hotel letter - an interesting reply
Actually, while it may be that in court you don't disclose your strategy, you do disclose your evidence and issues before trial.? The evidence comes out in discovery and the issues should be framed in the pleadings. Paul -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: univcity@list.purple.com Sent: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 8:45 am Subject: Re: [UC] 40th Street Hotel letter - an interesting reply In a message dated 10/21/2007 11:49:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hopefully without taking sides in this issue.I'm curious about your concern.? Why is it better to surprise the developer with your concerns?? It seems to me that providing the developer with time to consider your concerns allows him to more thoughtfully take them into consideration. Oh, c'mon Stephen. It obviously biases the proceedings at the Architectural Committee meeting. Does one side of a court battle tell the other its strategy? ? If, in fact, someone working for the PHC leaked this information to Lussenhop, it's a breach of conduct and ethics that could justifiably result in immediate job termination. ? Always at your service ready for a dialog, Al Krigman See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com
Re: [UC] 40th Street Hotel letter - an interesting reply
Hi Liz, I wasn't speaking to the issue of PHC outing Karen by name (if that's what happened). My point was in regards to whether or not it's more beneficial to the process and the community for the developer to know the concerns of the community prior to the meeting. Best, Stephen On 10/22/07, Elizabeth F Campion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like it or not, zoning change involves a petitioner someone planning some benefit for themselves (or their agenda/goals if a nonprofit) requesting an accommodation/change from neighbors and existing communities. I do not see the benefit in revealing names or contact info of those who have objections (or even questions). Outing PEOPLE creates a system for identifying individuals who 'need' to be suppressed or converted, either by bullying and or bribery. Addressing the QUESTIONS and CONCERNS of the community, while permitting questioners to remain anonymous, at least during the early stages, keeps the focus upon the track record of the developer and is a better method of analyzing the features and benefits of the proposed change/development. I think Karen's concern is valid. Further, information should be easily available to the entire community, through door-to-door delivery, not just to those who need persuading, or those on all the current computer lists. Best! Liz On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 23:46:24 -0400 Doc Baldy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Karen, I don't think that it's appropriate for the PHC to forward letters from residents to Mr. Lussenhop prior to the hearing - isn't that giving him advance opportunity to respond to any comments we may have? Hopefully without taking sides in this issue.I'm curious about your concern. Why is it better to surprise the developer with your concerns? It seems to me that providing the developer with time to consider your concerns allows him to more thoughtfully take them into consideration. Best, Stephen On 10/21/07, Karen Heenan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I emailed a letter to the PHC on Friday setting forth my feelings about the proposed hotel. On Friday evening, at 6:14, I got a response. Not from anyone at the PHC, but from Tom Lussenhop, our friendly neighborhood hotel developer. I didn't send my letter to Mr. Lussenhop, and while I cc'd my letter to the SHCA zoning committee, that letter went out by snail mail, so he didn't get it from them. I'm curious how he got a copy of my letter within 5 hours of my sending it to someone other than him. Maybe it's me, but I don't think that it's appropriate for the PHC to forward letters from residents to Mr. Lussenhop prior to the hearing - isn't that giving him advance opportunity to respond to any comments we may have? Also, the letter ended up in my junk mail folder, and when I clicked not junk, MSN asked it I wanted to add that mailing list to my safe lists. Apparently my response was one of many that Mr. Lussenhop sent out that day. Karen - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 6:14 PM Subject: Hi Tom Lussenhop here. Your friendly neighborhood hotel developer. Since you took the time to offer some thoughtful comments, I thought I'd respond. First, the hotel I am proposing is an extended stay hotel. That is, somewhere where the thousands of visitors to University City's institutions can stay for a 6 to 8 days (avergae stay) and not have to drive but can walk to the institutions. Harvard and MIT have several such hotels. The hotel is more like an apartment building since there is no meeting space...just quiet rooms with kitchens. Guests will be able to shop on 40th Street, take the trolley to Center City etc. The shop owners on 40th Street love the project. Talk, for example, to Larry at The Last Word bookshop. Second, there are 120 parcels located on the 3900 and 4000 blocks of Pine and Baltimore. I have letters of support from the owners of 90 of them. Of course they are overwhelmingly investor owned properties but that is the reality of this location and has been for 40 years. I think the hotel and restaurant cafe will introduce new (more responisble) neighbors to the area. Who knows? Maybe even a couple of nice cafes or restauarants might pop up! There will be community meetings coming up and I hope you will come. Despite what you have read, there have been a lot of meetings. Best, Tom 4244 Osage Ave You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. --
[UC] 40th Street Hotel letter - an interesting reply
I emailed a letter to the PHC on Friday setting forth my feelings about the proposed hotel. On Friday evening, at 6:14, I got a response. Not from anyone at the PHC, but from Tom Lussenhop, our friendly neighborhood hotel developer. I didn't send my letter to Mr. Lussenhop, and while I cc'd my letter to the SHCA zoning committee, that letter went out by snail mail, so he didn't get it from them. I'm curious how he got a copy of my letter within 5 hours of my sending it to someone other than him. Maybe it's me, but I don't think that it's appropriate for the PHC to forward letters from residents to Mr. Lussenhop prior to the hearing - isn't that giving him advance opportunity to respond to any comments we may have? Also, the letter ended up in my junk mail folder, and when I clicked not junk, MSN asked it I wanted to add that mailing list to my safe lists. Apparently my response was one of many that Mr. Lussenhop sent out that day. Karen - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 6:14 PM Subject: Hi Tom Lussenhop here. Your friendly neighborhood hotel developer. Since you took the time to offer some thoughtful comments, I thought I'd respond. First, the hotel I am proposing is an extended stay hotel. That is, somewhere where the thousands of visitors to University City's institutions can stay for a 6 to 8 days (avergae stay) and not have to drive but can walk to the institutions. Harvard and MIT have several such hotels. The hotel is more like an apartment building since there is no meeting space...just quiet rooms with kitchens. Guests will be able to shop on 40th Street, take the trolley to Center City etc. The shop owners on 40th Street love the project. Talk, for example, to Larry at The Last Word bookshop. Second, there are 120 parcels located on the 3900 and 4000 blocks of Pine and Baltimore. I have letters of support from the owners of 90 of them. Of course they are overwhelmingly investor owned properties but that is the reality of this location and has been for 40 years. I think the hotel and restaurant cafe will introduce new (more responisble) neighbors to the area. Who knows? Maybe even a couple of nice cafes or restauarants might pop up! There will be community meetings coming up and I hope you will come. Despite what you have read, there have been a lot of meetings. Best, Tom 4244 Osage Ave You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
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The Tom Lussenhop?communication may have been in response to your letter in the UCR or to your thoughtful posts to the list.?It is?possible TL subscribes to [EMAIL PROTECTED] has a mole real estate professional, who monitors this list?for him. Without spending time, now, analyzing the frailties of the letter, you may want to contact Tom Lussenhop?to?confirm his authorship of the email.?However, I would start at the top and take the matter directly to Craig Carnaroli, Exec VP 215-898-6693, [EMAIL PROTECTED] to see who he has tasked to liaison this project with the community and what forms of engagement have taken?and will take place. More comments later, once I shake off those stinkin' losing ass Eagles. It is time to clean house - starting with Reid and McNabb. They could be great business partners. Reid has a great rapport with drug?infused gun toting young men and?united with McNabb's upscale?line of urban ware all they need is a local gangster spokesman. I believe Beanie will not?presently be?burdened with grand theft auto charges. Taint Philly great. Ciao, Craig? -Original Message- From: Karen Heenan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: UC univcity@list.purple.com Sent: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 5:54 pm Subject: [UC] 40th Street Hotel letter - an interesting reply I emailed a letter to the PHC on Friday setting forth my feelings about the proposed hotel. On Friday evening, at 6:14, I got a response. Not from anyone at the PHC, but from Tom Lussenhop, our friendly neighborhood hotel developer. I didn't send my letter to Mr. Lussenhop, and while I cc'd my letter to the SHCA zoning committee, that letter went out by snail mail, so he didn't get it from them. I'm curious how he got a copy of my letter within 5 hours of my sending it to someone other than him. Maybe it's me, but I don't think that it's appropriate for the PHC to forward letters from residents to Mr. Lussenhop prior to the hearing - isn't that giving him advance opportunity to respond to any comments we may have? Also, the letter ended up in my junk mail folder, and when I clicked not junk, MSN asked it I wanted to add that mailing list to my safe lists. Apparently my response was one of many that Mr. Lussenhop sent out that day. Karen - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 6:14 PM Subject: Hi Tom Lussenhop here. Your friendly neighborhood hotel developer. Since you took the time to offer some thoughtful comments, I thought I'd respond. First, the hotel I am proposing is an extended stay hotel. That is, somewhere where the thousands of visitors to University City's institutions can stay for a 6 to 8 days (avergae stay) and not have to drive but can walk to the institutions. Harvard and MIT have several such hotels. The hotel is more like an apartment building since there is no meeting space...just quiet rooms with kitchens. Guests will be able to shop on 40th Street, take the trolley to Center City etc. The shop owners on 40th Street love the project. Talk, for example, to Larry at The Last Word bookshop. Second, there are 120 parcels located on the 3900 and 4000 blocks of Pine and Baltimore. I have letters of support from the owners of 90 of them. Of course they are overwhelmingly investor owned properties but that is the reality of this location and has been for 40 years. I think the hotel and restaurant cafe will introduce new (more responisble) neighbors to the area. Who knows? Maybe even a couple of nice cafes or restauarants might pop up! There will be community meetings coming up and I hope you will come. Despite what you have read, there have been a lot of meetings. Best, Tom 4244 Osage Ave You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com
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Hi Karen, I don't think that it's appropriate for the PHC to forward letters from residents to Mr. Lussenhop prior to the hearing - isn't that giving him advance opportunity to respond to any comments we may have? Hopefully without taking sides in this issue.I'm curious about your concern. Why is it better to surprise the developer with your concerns? It seems to me that providing the developer with time to consider your concerns allows him to more thoughtfully take them into consideration. Best, Stephen On 10/21/07, Karen Heenan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I emailed a letter to the PHC on Friday setting forth my feelings about the proposed hotel. On Friday evening, at 6:14, I got a response. Not from anyone at the PHC, but from Tom Lussenhop, our friendly neighborhood hotel developer. I didn't send my letter to Mr. Lussenhop, and while I cc'd my letter to the SHCA zoning committee, that letter went out by snail mail, so he didn't get it from them. I'm curious how he got a copy of my letter within 5 hours of my sending it to someone other than him. Maybe it's me, but I don't think that it's appropriate for the PHC to forward letters from residents to Mr. Lussenhop prior to the hearing - isn't that giving him advance opportunity to respond to any comments we may have? Also, the letter ended up in my junk mail folder, and when I clicked not junk, MSN asked it I wanted to add that mailing list to my safe lists. Apparently my response was one of many that Mr. Lussenhop sent out that day. Karen - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 6:14 PM Subject: Hi Tom Lussenhop here. Your friendly neighborhood hotel developer. Since you took the time to offer some thoughtful comments, I thought I'd respond. First, the hotel I am proposing is an extended stay hotel. That is, somewhere where the thousands of visitors to University City's institutions can stay for a 6 to 8 days (avergae stay) and not have to drive but can walk to the institutions. Harvard and MIT have several such hotels. The hotel is more like an apartment building since there is no meeting space...just quiet rooms with kitchens. Guests will be able to shop on 40th Street, take the trolley to Center City etc. The shop owners on 40th Street love the project. Talk, for example, to Larry at The Last Word bookshop. Second, there are 120 parcels located on the 3900 and 4000 blocks of Pine and Baltimore. I have letters of support from the owners of 90 of them. Of course they are overwhelmingly investor owned properties but that is the reality of this location and has been for 40 years. I think the hotel and restaurant cafe will introduce new (more responisble) neighbors to the area. Who knows? Maybe even a couple of nice cafes or restauarants might pop up! There will be community meetings coming up and I hope you will come. Despite what you have read, there have been a lot of meetings. Best, Tom 4244 Osage Ave You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. -- -- Studio 34 Yoga http://www.studio34yoga.com You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.