[UC] Bravo health care

2009-12-23 Thread Krfapt
Someone mentioned Bravo health care to me in a private response to my  
giving my expecience changing from Keystone 65 to Aetna for Medicare  Advantage.
 
I don't know much about Bravo, but I understand they are going to put a  
walk-in clinic in for former Rite-Aid store at 43rd  Walnut. This sounds  
like something more than a primary care physician's office but less than a  
hospital -- for routine tests.
 
Considering the location (and the parking lot!), it might be worth  
checking.
 
If anybody does, please report back to the rest of us.  

Alan  Krigman
KRF Management, ICON/Information Concepts Inc
211 S 45th St,  Philadelphia PA 19104-2918
215-349-6500, fax 215-349-6502
krf...@aol.com  or al.krig...@krf.icodat.com



Re: [UC] Bravo health care

2009-12-23 Thread Glenn moyer
"I don't know much about Bravo, but I understand they are going to put a 
walk-in clinic in for former Rite-Aid store at 43rd  Walnut. This sounds 
like something more than a primary care physician's office but less than a 
hospital -- for routine tests."
Al,I also know nothing about Bravo. But this model for delivery of care is something that deserves a serious look if America ever moves beyond the disaster we have now. There is a huge hole in the broken delivery system. People with expensive insurance still can't find open appointments at primary care clinics. If you have a sinus infection and call random doctors, you will be told that you have to wait at least a month before an intake physical. A vast majority of minor health needs go untreated when people need a place to walk into and get a simple, easily diagnosed, treatment. It's cost efficient, reduces unnecessary suffering, and is a benefit for a productive society.Since managed care was introduced in the 1990's, our broken health care system turned to a disaster. We have a tremendous shortage of primary care medical professionals, because specialists make more than twice the money as primary care professionals. We need stimulus spending that helps society, like scholarships for all qualified candidates to go to expanded medical schools for primary care. The great medical successes in the very poor country, Cuba, should be studied. Thanks for the tip,Glenn-Original Message-
From: krf...@aol.com
Sent: Dec 23, 2009 9:36 AM
To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: [UC] Bravo health care






Someone mentioned Bravo health care to me in a private response to my 
giving my expecience changing from Keystone 65 to Aetna for Medicare 
Advantage.

I don't know much about Bravo, but I understand they are going to put a 
walk-in clinic in for former Rite-Aid store at 43rd  Walnut. This sounds 
like something more than a primary care physician's office but less than a 
hospital -- for routine tests.

Considering the location (and the parking lot!), it might be worth 
checking.

If anybody does, please report back to the rest of us. 

Alan 
KrigmanKRF Management, ICON/Information Concepts Inc211 S 45th St, 
Philadelphia PA 19104-2918215-349-6500, fax 215-349-6502krf...@aol.com 
or al.krig...@krf.icodat.com


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Re: [UC] Bravo health care

2009-12-23 Thread missthin
Al

I saw that and was like, hmm, interesting.  Could be where I end up as I
know at some point my wonderful GP will be retiring (he's older himself)!
In theory it sounds like a good idea.  The ifs for me would be: would I have
the same doctor (GP?) all the time or would I have to see whoever was
available and hope they've read my med recs and are up to date on what my
issues are; what exactly will this Center offer as far as testing, test
results, turnaround time, etc.  All those pesky little things that when
you're sick or injured you need and have a right to know asap.

Found these links:

https://bravo.destinationrx.com/plancompare/consumer/type1/2010/home/home.aspx
http://www.mybravohealth.com/PDP/
http://www.bravohealth.com/

In the last link, there is talk of a Bravo Health Advanced Care Center:

Opening in early 2010, the Bravo Health Advanced Care Center will offer
patients enhanced health care services in one convenient and comfortable
location. Serving Bravo Health members exclusively in North Philadelphia,
the Center will be an innovative, free-standing outpatient facility equipped
to deliver extended treatment services.

Featuring in-suite radiology, laboratory, observation, and monitoring, the
Center will be staffed by physicians who are Board Certified in Internal
Medicine, with significant experience in the management of chronic
conditions in the Medicare population, as well as Board Certified physicians
skilled in tertiary care.

There's nothing about the Center that's supposed to be opening on Walnut St.
near us. so this may be something that is going to take some time to get
underway and sounds like it'll have to wait until the North Philly Center is
up and running.

Then I found this link!  http://www.mybravohealth.com/ProviderDirectory/
Cound not find my current GP which is weird because I swear the man accepts
every insurance under the sun.

This company looks to be pretty much medicare-based supplemental insurance,
prescription only and HMOs with and without prescription coverage.   The
last link, the Provider Directory search? asks for either PPO or HMO, but I
haven't found anything else Bravo with PPO info.  Would just be curious what
theirs is about, if it's medicare-based only, costs, etc.

Cost-wise, not bad at all for the HMO - it seems at least.  Now what doctors
will accept this, what all the co-pays are, if you have to use these Care
Centers I don't know.  Either I'm really brain dead today or the
information is kind of lacking.  So I read what I could with mixed feelings.

Wendy



On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Glenn moyer glen...@earthlink.net wrote:

 I don't know much about Bravo, but I understand they are going to put a
 walk-in clinic in for former Rite-Aid store at 43rd  Walnut. This sounds
 like something more than a primary care physician's office but less than a
 hospital -- for routine tests.

 Al,

 I also know nothing about Bravo.  But this model for delivery of care is
 something that deserves a serious look if America ever moves beyond the
 disaster we have now.  There is a huge hole in the broken delivery system.
 People with expensive insurance still can't find open appointments at
 primary care clinics. If you have a sinus infection and call random doctors,
 you will be told that you have to wait at least a month before an intake
 physical.  A vast majority of minor health needs go untreated when people
 need a place to walk into and get a simple, easily diagnosed, treatment.
 It's cost efficient, reduces unnecessary suffering, and is a benefit for a
 productive society.

 Since managed care was introduced in the 1990's, our broken health care
 system turned to a disaster.  We have a tremendous shortage of primary care
 medical professionals, because specialists make more than twice the money as
 primary care professionals.

 We need stimulus spending that helps society, like scholarships for all
 qualified candidates to go to expanded medical schools for primary care.
 The great medical successes in the very poor country, Cuba, should be
 studied.

 Thanks for the tip,
 Glenn



 -Original Message-
 From: krf...@aol.com
 Sent: Dec 23, 2009 9:36 AM
 To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
 Subject: [UC] Bravo health care

  Someone mentioned Bravo health care to me in a private response to my
 giving my expecience changing from Keystone 65 to Aetna for Medicare
 Advantage.

 I don't know much about Bravo, but I understand they are going to put a
 walk-in clinic in for former Rite-Aid store at 43rd  Walnut. This sounds
 like something more than a primary care physician's office but less than a
 hospital -- for routine tests.

 Considering the location (and the parking lot!), it might be worth
 checking.

 If anybody does, please report back to the rest of us.

 Alan Krigman
 KRF Management, ICON/Information Concepts Inc
 211 S 45th St, Philadelphia PA 19104-2918
 215-349-6500, fax 215-349-6502
 krf...@aol.com or al.krig...@krf.icodat.com

  You

Re: [UC] Bravo health care

2009-12-23 Thread Gerardo Razumney
 to expanded medical schools for primary care.
 The great medical successes in the very poor country, Cuba, should be
 studied.

 Thanks for the tip,
 Glenn



 -Original Message-
 From: krf...@aol.com
 Sent: Dec 23, 2009 9:36 AM
 To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
 Subject: [UC] Bravo health care

  Someone mentioned Bravo health care to me in a private response to my
 giving my expecience changing from Keystone 65 to Aetna for Medicare
 Advantage.

 I don't know much about Bravo, but I understand they are going to put a
 walk-in clinic in for former Rite-Aid store at 43rd  Walnut. This sounds
 like something more than a primary care physician's office but less than a
 hospital -- for routine tests.

 Considering the location (and the parking lot!), it might be worth
 checking.

 If anybody does, please report back to the rest of us.

 Alan Krigman
 KRF Management, ICON/Information Concepts Inc
 211 S 45th St, Philadelphia PA 19104-2918
 215-349-6500, fax 215-349-6502
 krf...@aol.com or al.krig...@krf.icodat.com

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Re: [UC] Bravo health care

2009-12-23 Thread Wilma de Soto
As far as I¹m concerned I will not be around in 2014 unless through sheer
defiance!


On 12/23/09 4:13 PM, missthin misst...@gmail.com wrote:

 Al
 
 I saw that and was like, hmm, interesting.  Could be where I end up as I know
 at some point my wonderful GP will be retiring (he's older himself)!  In
 theory it sounds like a good idea.  The ifs for me would be: would I have the
 same doctor (GP?) all the time or would I have to see whoever was available
 and hope they've read my med recs and are up to date on what my issues are;
 what exactly will this Center offer as far as testing, test results,
 turnaround time, etc.  All those pesky little things that when you're sick or
 injured you need and have a right to know asap.
 
 Found these links:
 
 https://bravo.destinationrx.com/plancompare/consumer/type1/2010/home/home.aspx
 http://www.mybravohealth.com/PDP/
 http://www.bravohealth.com/
 
 In the last link, there is talk of a Bravo Health Advanced Care Center:
 
 Opening in early 2010, the Bravo Health Advanced Care Center will offer
 patients enhanced health care services in one convenient and comfortable
 location. Serving Bravo Health members exclusively in North Philadelphia, the
 Center will be an innovative, free-standing outpatient facility equipped to
 deliver extended treatment services.
 
 Featuring in-suite radiology, laboratory, observation, and monitoring, the
 Center will be staffed by physicians who are Board Certified in Internal
 Medicine, with significant experience in the management of chronic conditions
 in the Medicare population, as well as Board Certified physicians skilled in
 tertiary care.
 
 There's nothing about the Center that's supposed to be opening on Walnut St.
 near us. so this may be something that is going to take some time to get
 underway and sounds like it'll have to wait until the North Philly Center is
 up and running.
 
 Then I found this link!  http://www.mybravohealth.com/ProviderDirectory/ 
 Cound not find my current GP which is weird because I swear the man accepts
 every insurance under the sun.
 
 This company looks to be pretty much medicare-based supplemental insurance,
 prescription only and HMOs with and without prescription coverage.   The last
 link, the Provider Directory search? asks for either PPO or HMO, but I haven't
 found anything else Bravo with PPO info.  Would just be curious what theirs is
 about, if it's medicare-based only, costs, etc.
 
 Cost-wise, not bad at all for the HMO - it seems at least.  Now what doctors
 will accept this, what all the co-pays are, if you have to use these Care
 Centers I don't know.  Either I'm really brain dead today or the information
 is kind of lacking.  So I read what I could with mixed feelings.
 
 Wendy
 
 
 
 On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Glenn moyer glen...@earthlink.net wrote:
 I don't know much about Bravo, but I understand they are going to put a
 walk-in clinic in for former Rite-Aid store at 43rd  Walnut. This sounds
 like something more than a primary care physician's office but less than a
 hospital -- for routine tests.
   
 Al,
 
 I also know nothing about Bravo.  But this model for delivery of care is
 something that deserves a serious look if America ever moves beyond the
 disaster we have now.  There is a huge hole in the broken delivery system. 
 People with expensive insurance still can't find open appointments at primary
 care clinics. If you have a sinus infection and call random doctors, you will
 be told that you have to wait at least a month before an intake physical.  A
 vast majority of minor health needs go untreated when people need a place to
 walk into and get a simple, easily diagnosed, treatment.  It's cost
 efficient, reduces unnecessary suffering, and is a benefit for a productive
 society.
 
 Since managed care was introduced in the 1990's, our broken health care
 system turned to a disaster.  We have a tremendous shortage of primary care
 medical professionals, because specialists make more than twice the money as
 primary care professionals. 
 
 We need stimulus spending that helps society, like scholarships for all
 qualified candidates to go to expanded medical schools for primary care.  The
 great medical successes in the very poor country, Cuba, should be studied.
 
 Thanks for the tip,
 Glenn
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: krf...@aol.com
 Sent: Dec 23, 2009 9:36 AM
 To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
 Subject: [UC] Bravo health care
 
 Someone mentioned Bravo health care to me in a private response to my giving
 my expecience changing from Keystone 65 to Aetna for Medicare Advantage.
  
 I don't know much about Bravo, but I understand they are going to put a
 walk-in clinic in for former Rite-Aid store at 43rd  Walnut. This sounds
 like something more than a primary care physician's office but less than a
 hospital -- for routine tests.
  
 Considering the location (and the parking lot!), it might be worth checking.
  
 If anybody does, please report back

Re: [UC] Bravo health care

2009-12-23 Thread craigsolve
-Original Message-
From: Glenn moyer glen...@earthlink.net
To: krf...@aol.com; UnivCity@list.purple.com
Sent: Wed, Dec 23, 2009 10:21 am
Subject: Re: [UC] Bravo health care

The great medical successes in the very poor country, Cuba, should be studied. 



_
 
What city in Cuba has five world class medical schools, like Philly?
 
Doesn't Michael Moore need a new Best Boy for pissing on America?
 
During this Christmas, may something wonderful about this nation and our 
Judeo-Christian values touch your life.
 

 
Merry Christmas, Glenn
 
Ciao,
 
Craig
 


Re: [UC] Bravo health care

2009-12-23 Thread Gerardo Razumney
Let's be clear about this: A superb medical technology which is available
only to those who can afford while it condemns most of the population to
inferior alternatives and limits the availability is NOT a real Health Care
System, it is a sham.  I couldn't care less about the number of world class
medical schools if their wonderful discoveries only lead to mediocre
alternatives and poor health for the majority of the population.

Gerardo Razumney


On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 7:20 PM, craigso...@aol.com wrote:

 -Original Message-
 From: Glenn moyer glen...@earthlink.net
 To: krf...@aol.com; UnivCity@list.purple.com
 Sent: Wed, Dec 23, 2009 10:21 am
 Subject: Re: [UC] Bravo health care

 The great medical successes in the very poor country, Cuba, should be
 studied.


 _

 What city in Cuba has five world class medical schools, like Philly?

 Doesn't Michael Moore need a new Best Boy for pissing on America?

 During this Christmas, may something wonderful about this nation and our
 Judeo-Christian values touch your life.

 [image: 
 christmas-tree]http://samuelatgilgal.wordpress.com/2008/12/09/should-a-christian-put-up-a-christmas-tree/christmas-tree/

 Merry Christmas, Glenn

 Ciao,

 Craig