Re: [UC] FW: You know you live in West Philly if . . .

2011-07-14 Thread robert rathmann
Please people...
This is the most rediculous, petty display of trying to one-up each
other on who is the most worthy West Philadelphian.  Take the
article for what it's worth.  The author was trying to show her
perspective on being a happy west philly resident.  The list she made
up is an accurate depiction from her  (and many other's) point of
view.  She was just writing a lite, humorous list based on what you
might see or experience while living here.  She was by no means trying
to say she was an expert on old school west philly.
Congratulations to the others that had to show everyone that they were
living in west philly since the indians roamed Cobbs Creek and the
places that are Over the line.  Be proud that your community is a
unique place that folks are proud to live in.

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Wilma de Soto wil.p...@comcast.net wrote:
 No one said who is a TRUE West Philadelphian.  I said the author, actually I
 didn't, but I thought it was a scripted, stilted PhillyMag view of West
 Philly.
 Mr. Davis notwithstanding he may very well not remember all the the things
 on my particular list.  The fact he knew at least half of them would show
 neither of us are too far apart.
 From: Roger/Vince rogerandvi...@gmail.com
 Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 17:22:14 -0400
 To: Alex de Soto wil.p...@comcast.net, 'Karen Allen' kallena...@msn.com,
 UnivCity listserv UnivCity@list.purple.com
 Subject: RE: [UC] FW: You know you live in West Philly if . . .

 I guess my friend Bill Davis does not qualify as a true West Philly person;
 he only recalled about half of the items.  But what the heck, he’s only
 lived in West Philly for 85 years ….

 Roger



 From: owner-univc...@list.purple.com [mailto:owner-univc...@list.purple.com]
 On Behalf Of Wilma de Soto
 Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 12:32 PM
 To: Karen Allen; UnivCity listserv
 Subject: Re: [UC] FW: You know you live in West Philly if . . .



 • You know you ARE from West Philly if you know what is we called The
 Dusty.



 • You know you ARE from West Philly if you remember Al DiPalma's Hoagie
 Shop.



 • You know you ARE from West Philly if you've ever eaten at The Beef and
 Beer and know where the Italian enclave is.



 • You know you ARE from West Philly if you know where Black Oak Park is.



 • You know you ARE from West Philly if you know if you couldn't wait to buy
 water ice at Overbrook Water Ice Stand.



 • You know you ARE from West Philly if you know the original location for
 Murray's Deli.



 • You know you ARE from West Philly if you know who the Orange and Blue
 versus the Black and Gold are.



 • You know you ARE from West Philly if you know if you can name the streets
 where the lines are between areas good and bad and are   VERY familiar
 with the phrase, but that's over the line!.



 • You know you ARE from West Philly if you know if you know the routes to
 get to Fairmount Park by either going over the top or down the bottom.



 • You know you ARE from West Philly if you have ever walked the bridle path
 on Cobbs Creek Park.



 • You know you ARE from West Philly if you know if you realize the person
 who wrote the other article would not have the faintest idea of what is on
 this list.



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Re: [UC] FW: You know you live in West Philly if . . .

2011-07-13 Thread Krfapt


In a message dated 7/12/2011 11:19:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
kimm.ty...@verizon.net writes:

In case you missed it elsewhere . . . .

_http://blogs.phillymag.com/the_philly_post/2011/07/12/live-west-philly/_ 
(http://blogs.phillymag.com/the_philly_post/2011/07/12/live-west-philly/)   
Elitist pretentious snobbery like this  from self-anointed sophisticates 
who think they're better than  everyone else will make the real neighborhood 
(which she hasn't noticed) into  something it isn't and many of us would 
prefer it not to be -- a quaint Potemkin  village right here on the West Bank 
of 
the Schuylkill that would impress even  Amy Gutmann and John Fry.  

-


Alan Krigman
KRF Management, ICON/Information Concepts  Inc
211 S 45th St, Philadelphia PA 19104-2918
215-349-6500, fax  215-349-6502
krf...@aol.com or  al.krig...@krf.icodat.com

RE: [UC] FW: You know you live in West Philly if . . .

2011-07-13 Thread Karen Allen

Funny thing is that I recognize many of the people Liz is referring to (but 
don't worry, no names...)
 



Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 23:18:55 -0400
Subject: [UC] FW: You know you live in West Philly if . . .
From: kimm.ty...@verizon.net
To: univcity@list.purple.com


In case you missed it elsewhere . . . .

http://blogs.phillymag.com/the_philly_post/2011/07/12/live-west-philly/ 
  

Re: [UC] FW: You know you live in West Philly if . . .

2011-07-13 Thread Wilma de Soto
€ You know you ARE from West Philly if you know what is we called The
Dusty.

€ You know you ARE from West Philly if you remember Al DiPalma's Hoagie
Shop.

€ You know you ARE from West Philly if you've ever eaten at The Beef and
Beer and know where the Italian enclave is.

€ You know you ARE from West Philly if you know where Black Oak Park is.

€ You know you ARE from West Philly if you know if you couldn't wait to buy
water ice at Overbrook Water Ice Stand.

€ You know you ARE from West Philly if you know the original location for
Murray's Deli.

€ You know you ARE from West Philly if you know who the Orange and Blue
versus the Black and Gold are.

€ You know you ARE from West Philly if you know if you can name the streets
where the lines are between areas good and bad and are   VERY familiar
with the phrase, but that's over the line!.

€ You know you ARE from West Philly if you know if you know the routes to
get to Fairmount Park by either going over the top or down the bottom.

€ You know you ARE from West Philly if you have ever walked the bridle path
on Cobbs Creek Park.

€ You know you ARE from West Philly if you know if you realize the person
who wrote the other article would not have the faintest idea of what is on
this list.

From:  Karen Allen kallena...@msn.com
Reply-To:  Karen Allen kallena...@msn.com
Date:  Wed, 13 Jul 2011 11:13:52 -0400
To:  UnivCity listserv UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject:  RE: [UC] FW:  You know you live in West Philly if . . .

Funny thing is that I recognize many of the people Liz is referring to (but
don't worry, no names...)
 

Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 23:18:55 -0400
Subject: [UC] FW: You know you live in West Philly if . . .
From: kimm.ty...@verizon.net
To: univcity@list.purple.com

In case you missed it elsewhere . . . .

http://blogs.phillymag.com/the_philly_post/2011/07/12/live-west-philly/
   




Re: [UC] FW: You know you live in West Philly if . . .

2011-07-13 Thread Jim Cummings
Liz's picture seems UCD-approved.
By the way, my personal one is you are from West Philly if you have heard of
the pharmacy college but never heard of USP (*née *Philadelphia College of
Pharmacy). I work at USP, so I run into this a lot.
Jim

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Wilma de Soto wil.p...@comcast.net wrote:

 You're right Jim. I guess the point I was trying to make is Liz's depiction
 seemed to me a very limited perspective that suggested a more stilted,
 contrived, planned version of whar she thinks West Philly is that does not
 call to mind West Philly to some of us.

 I live on 45 th St. near Pine. Did you know that actor Peter Boyle grew up
 on 51st St. near Black Oak Park?

 Of course Al diPalma is long gone and Murray's is in Narberth but many of
 things I listed are still here.

 Thanks for writing.

 Jim Cummings alaricvisig...@gmail.com wrote:

 I guess that is the difference with being FROM West Philly and LIVING IN
 West Philly (what Liz claimed). I have lived in West Philly for 25 years
 and
 only scored a yes on Black Oak Park, but then I never go to delis or bars
 so
 I should get a pass on some of these. I have guess on another few ...
 
 Jim
 
 On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Wilma de Soto wil.p...@comcast.net
 wrote:
 
  • You know you ARE from West Philly if you know what is we called The
  Dusty.
 
  • You know you ARE from West Philly if you remember Al DiPalma's Hoagie
  Shop.
 
  • You know you ARE from West Philly if you've ever eaten at The Beef and
  Beer and know where the Italian enclave is.
 
  • You know you ARE from West Philly if you know where Black Oak Park
 is.
 
  • You know you ARE from West Philly if you know if you couldn't wait to
 buy
  water ice at Overbrook Water Ice Stand.
 
  • You know you ARE from West Philly if you know the original location
 for
  Murray's Deli.
 
  • You know you ARE from West Philly if you know who the Orange and
 Blue
  versus the Black and Gold are.
 
  • You know you ARE from West Philly if you know if you can name the
 streets
  where the lines are between areas good and bad and are   VERY familiar
  with the phrase, but that's over the line!.
 
  • You know you ARE from West Philly if you know if you know the routes
 to
  get to Fairmount Park by either going over the top or down the
 bottom.
 
  • You know you ARE from West Philly if you have ever walked the bridle
 path
  on Cobbs Creek Park.
 
  • You know you ARE from West Philly if you know if you realize the
 person
  who wrote the other article would not have the faintest idea of what is
 on
  this list.
 
  From: Karen Allen kallena...@msn.com
  Reply-To: Karen Allen kallena...@msn.com
  Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 11:13:52 -0400
  To: UnivCity listserv UnivCity@list.purple.com
  Subject: RE: [UC] FW: You know you live in West Philly if . . .
 
  Funny thing is that I recognize many of the people Liz is referring to
 (but
  don't worry, no names...)
 
  --
  Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 23:18:55 -0400
  Subject: [UC] FW: You know you live in West Philly if . . .
  From: kimm.ty...@verizon.net
  To: univcity@list.purple.com
 
  In case you missed it elsewhere . . . .
 
  http://blogs.phillymag.com/the_philly_post/2011/07/12/live-west-philly/
 
 
 
 
 --
 Jim Cummings




-- 
Jim Cummings


Re: [UC] FW: You know you live in West Philly if . . .

2011-07-13 Thread Wilma de Soto
I knew it as the Philadelphia College of Pharmacy and Science.  My best
friend's mother graduated from there in 1948.

From:  Jim Cummings alaricvisig...@gmail.com
Date:  Wed, 13 Jul 2011 14:04:02 -0400
To:  Alex de Soto wil.p...@comcast.net
Cc:  Karen Allen kallena...@msn.com, UnivCity listserv
UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject:  Re: [UC] FW: You know you live in West Philly if . . .

Liz's picture seems UCD-approved.
By the way, my personal one is you are from West Philly if you have heard of
the pharmacy college but never heard of USP (née Philadelphia College of
Pharmacy). I work at USP, so I run into this a lot.
Jim

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Wilma de Soto wil.p...@comcast.net wrote:
 You're right Jim. I guess the point I was trying to make is Liz's depiction
 seemed to me a very limited perspective that suggested a more stilted,
 contrived, planned version of whar she thinks West Philly is that does not
 call to mind West Philly to some of us.
 
 I live on 45 th St. near Pine. Did you know that actor Peter Boyle grew up on
 51st St. near Black Oak Park?
 
 Of course Al diPalma is long gone and Murray's is in Narberth but many of
 things I listed are still here.
 
 Thanks for writing.
 
 Jim Cummings alaricvisig...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I guess that is the difference with being FROM West Philly and LIVING IN
 West Philly (what Liz claimed). I have lived in West Philly for 25 years and
 only scored a yes on Black Oak Park, but then I never go to delis or bars so
 I should get a pass on some of these. I have guess on another few ...
 
 Jim
 
 On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Wilma de Soto wil.p...@comcast.netwrote:
 
  € You know you ARE from West Philly if you know what is we called The
  Dusty.
 
  € You know you ARE from West Philly if you remember Al DiPalma's Hoagie
  Shop.
 
  € You know you ARE from West Philly if you've ever eaten at The Beef and
  Beer and know where the Italian enclave is.
 
  € You know you ARE from West Philly if you know where Black Oak Park
 is.
 
  € You know you ARE from West Philly if you know if you couldn't wait to
 buy
  water ice at Overbrook Water Ice Stand.
 
  € You know you ARE from West Philly if you know the original location for
  Murray's Deli.
 
  € You know you ARE from West Philly if you know who the Orange and Blue
  versus the Black and Gold are.
 
  € You know you ARE from West Philly if you know if you can name the
 streets
  where the lines are between areas good and bad and are   VERY familiar
  with the phrase, but that's over the line!.
 
  € You know you ARE from West Philly if you know if you know the routes to
  get to Fairmount Park by either going over the top or down the
 bottom.
 
  € You know you ARE from West Philly if you have ever walked the bridle
 path
  on Cobbs Creek Park.
 
  € You know you ARE from West Philly if you know if you realize the person
  who wrote the other article would not have the faintest idea of what is
on
  this list.
 
  From: Karen Allen kallena...@msn.com
  Reply-To: Karen Allen kallena...@msn.com
  Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 11:13:52 -0400
  To: UnivCity listserv UnivCity@list.purple.com
  Subject: RE: [UC] FW: You know you live in West Philly if . . .
 
  Funny thing is that I recognize many of the people Liz is referring to
 (but
  don't worry, no names...)
 
  --
  Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 23:18:55 -0400
  Subject: [UC] FW: You know you live in West Philly if . . .
  From: kimm.ty...@verizon.net
  To: univcity@list.purple.com
 
  In case you missed it elsewhere . . . .
 
  http://blogs.phillymag.com/the_philly_post/2011/07/12/live-west-philly/
 
 
 
 
 --
 Jim Cummings



-- 
Jim Cummings






Re: [UC] FW: You know you live in West Philly if . . .

2011-07-13 Thread Krfapt


In a message dated 7/13/2011 2:39:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
aroc...@gmail.com writes:

Given  Philly Mag’s largely suburban readership, is it so bad to provide a 
short list  of quirky and fun things about the area? 
Yes, it's bad. What if those suburban people come?  

-


Alan Krigman
KRF Management, ICON/Information Concepts  Inc
211 S 45th St, Philadelphia PA 19104-2918
215-349-6500, fax  215-349-6502
krf...@aol.com or  al.krig...@krf.icodat.com

RE: [UC] FW: You know you live in West Philly if . . .

2011-07-13 Thread Karen Allen

...By the way, my personal one is you are from West Philly if you have heard 
of the pharmacy college but never heard of USP (née Philadelphia College of 
Pharmacy).
 
Hey, maybe they got tired of being called PCP... 
 



Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 14:04:02 -0400
Subject: Re: [UC] FW: You know you live in West Philly if . . .
From: alaricvisig...@gmail.com
To: wil.p...@comcast.net
CC: kallena...@msn.com; univcity@list.purple.com

Liz's picture seems UCD-approved. 
By the way, my personal one is you are from West Philly if you have heard of 
the pharmacy college but never heard of USP (née Philadelphia College of 
Pharmacy). I work at USP, so I run into this a lot.
Jim


On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Wilma de Soto wil.p...@comcast.net wrote:

You're right Jim. I guess the point I was trying to make is Liz's depiction 
seemed to me a very limited perspective that suggested a more stilted, 
contrived, planned version of whar she thinks West Philly is that does not call 
to mind West Philly to some of us.

I live on 45 th St. near Pine. Did you know that actor Peter Boyle grew up on 
51st St. near Black Oak Park?

Of course Al diPalma is long gone and Murray's is in Narberth but many of 
things I listed are still here.

Thanks for writing.




Jim Cummings alaricvisig...@gmail.com wrote:

I guess that is the difference with being FROM West Philly and LIVING IN
West Philly (what Liz claimed). I have lived in West Philly for 25 years and
only scored a yes on Black Oak Park, but then I never go to delis or bars so
I should get a pass on some of these. I have guess on another few ...

Jim

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Wilma de Soto wil.p...@comcast.netwrote:

 • You know you ARE from West Philly if you know what is we called The
 Dusty.

 • You know you ARE from West Philly if you remember Al DiPalma's Hoagie
 Shop.

 • You know you ARE from West Philly if you've ever eaten at The Beef and
 Beer and know where the Italian enclave is.

 • You know you ARE from West Philly if you know where Black Oak Park is.

 • You know you ARE from West Philly if you know if you couldn't wait to buy
 water ice at Overbrook Water Ice Stand.

 • You know you ARE from West Philly if you know the original location for
 Murray's Deli.

 • You know you ARE from West Philly if you know who the Orange and Blue
 versus the Black and Gold are.

 • You know you ARE from West Philly if you know if you can name the streets
 where the lines are between areas good and bad and are   VERY familiar
 with the phrase, but that's over the line!.

 • You know you ARE from West Philly if you know if you know the routes to
 get to Fairmount Park by either going over the top or down the bottom.

 • You know you ARE from West Philly if you have ever walked the bridle path
 on Cobbs Creek Park.

 • You know you ARE from West Philly if you know if you realize the person
 who wrote the other article would not have the faintest idea of what is on
 this list.

 From: Karen Allen kallena...@msn.com
 Reply-To: Karen Allen kallena...@msn.com
 Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 11:13:52 -0400
 To: UnivCity listserv UnivCity@list.purple.com
 Subject: RE: [UC] FW: You know you live in West Philly if . . .

 Funny thing is that I recognize many of the people Liz is referring to (but
 don't worry, no names...)

 --
 Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 23:18:55 -0400
 Subject: [UC] FW: You know you live in West Philly if . . .
 From: kimm.ty...@verizon.net
 To: univcity@list.purple.com

 In case you missed it elsewhere . . . .

 http://blogs.phillymag.com/the_philly_post/2011/07/12/live-west-philly/




--
Jim Cummings


-- 
Jim Cummings


  

Re: [UC] FW: You know you live in West Philly if . . .

2011-07-13 Thread Wilma de Soto
I think you mistook my post and my intention. Her post was obviously
designed to appeal to PhillyMag readers.  That doesn't make it true,
however.

There is more than one way of looking at West Philly without it ALL being
bad except for the UCD approved areas.  I posted my ideas of what makes West
Philly and a life-long resident.  They are as valid as well as the
PhillyMag version.

From:  Amara Rockar aroc...@gmail.com
Date:  Wed, 13 Jul 2011 14:38:11 -0400
To:  Alex de Soto wil.p...@comcast.net
Cc:  Jim Cummings alaricvisig...@gmail.com, Karen Allen
kallena...@msn.com, UnivCity listserv UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject:  Re: [UC] FW: You know you live in West Philly if . . .

You all realize if Liz used ³University City² or something instead of ³West
Philly² people would be crying out, ³No, it¹s West Philly ­ University City
is a marketing scheme!² and then arguing about the boundaries of University
City versus West Philly. (Anyway, it is Lenapehoking ­ West Philly is
colonialism)

Given Philly Mag¹s largely suburban readership, is it so bad to provide a
short list of quirky and fun things about the area? The same magazine ran an
article last year where the author (not Liz) said that when out-of-towners
ask him about nice places in Philly ­ he leaves out the ENTIRE WEST PHILLY
REGION.

Here is a list of West Philly
Neighborhoods:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Philadelphia_neighborhood
s#West_Philadelphia

Perhaps you all could go through and flag all the ones that aren¹t ³real²
West Philly? Because I get the feeling by the time it¹s done, all we¹ll be
left with is Cobbs Creek and maybe one or two others.

Amara

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Wilma de Soto wil.p...@comcast.net wrote:
 I knew it as the Philadelphia College of Pharmacy and Science.  My best
 friend's mother graduated from there in 1948.
 
 From:  Jim Cummings alaricvisig...@gmail.com
 Date:  Wed, 13 Jul 2011 14:04:02 -0400
 To:  Alex de Soto wil.p...@comcast.net
 Cc:  Karen Allen kallena...@msn.com, UnivCity listserv
 UnivCity@list.purple.com
 Subject:  Re: [UC] FW: You know you live in West Philly if . . .
 
 Liz's picture seems UCD-approved.
 By the way, my personal one is you are from West Philly if you have heard of
 the pharmacy college but never heard of USP (née Philadelphia College of
 Pharmacy). I work at USP, so I run into this a lot.
 Jim
 
 On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Wilma de Soto wil.p...@comcast.net wrote:
 You're right Jim. I guess the point I was trying to make is Liz's depiction
 seemed to me a very limited perspective that suggested a more stilted,
 contrived, planned version of whar she thinks West Philly is that does not
 call to mind West Philly to some of us.
 
 I live on 45 th St. near Pine. Did you know that actor Peter Boyle grew up on
 51st St. near Black Oak Park?
 
 Of course Al diPalma is long gone and Murray's is in Narberth but many of
 things I listed are still here.
 
 Thanks for writing.
 
 Jim Cummings alaricvisig...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I guess that is the difference with being FROM West Philly and LIVING IN
 West Philly (what Liz claimed). I have lived in West Philly for 25 years
 and
 only scored a yes on Black Oak Park, but then I never go to delis or bars
 so
 I should get a pass on some of these. I have guess on another few ...
 
 Jim
 
 On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Wilma de Soto
 wil.p...@comcast.netwrote:
 
  € You know you ARE from West Philly if you know what is we called The
  Dusty.
 
  € You know you ARE from West Philly if you remember Al DiPalma's Hoagie
  Shop.
 
  € You know you ARE from West Philly if you've ever eaten at The Beef and
  Beer and know where the Italian enclave is.
 
  € You know you ARE from West Philly if you know where Black Oak Park
 is.
 
  € You know you ARE from West Philly if you know if you couldn't wait to
 buy
  water ice at Overbrook Water Ice Stand.
 
  € You know you ARE from West Philly if you know the original location
 for
  Murray's Deli.
 
  € You know you ARE from West Philly if you know who the Orange and
 Blue
  versus the Black and Gold are.
 
  € You know you ARE from West Philly if you know if you can name the
 streets
  where the lines are between areas good and bad and are   VERY familiar
  with the phrase, but that's over the line!.
 
  € You know you ARE from West Philly if you know if you know the routes
to
  get to Fairmount Park by either going over the top or down the
 bottom.
 
  € You know you ARE from West Philly if you have ever walked the bridle
 path
  on Cobbs Creek Park.
 
  € You know you ARE from West Philly if you know if you realize the
 person
  who wrote the other article would not have the faintest idea of what is
on
  this list.
 
  From: Karen Allen kallena...@msn.com
  Reply-To: Karen Allen kallena...@msn.com
  Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 11:13:52 -0400
  To: UnivCity listserv UnivCity@list.purple.com
  Subject: RE: [UC] FW: You know you live in West Philly if . . .
 
  Funny thing is that I recognize many

RE: [UC] FW: You know you live in West Philly if . . .

2011-07-13 Thread Lalevic, Darco
The whole west philly vs university city thing pisses me off - they are two 
very distinct areas (even if UC is in West Philly). And really, if you're going 
to complain about new names, shouldn't we be calling it Blockley (Lenapehoking 
being the entire Delaware and Hudson basin)?

I was born here and have lived here all my life except for a couple college 
years, and I still don't know many of the things on Wilma's list!
Although it did take me a few years to start calling it USP, and I still refer 
to the Tavern.


From: owner-univc...@list.purple.com [mailto:owner-univc...@list.purple.com] On 
Behalf Of Amara Rockar
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 2:38 PM
To: Wilma de Soto
Cc: Jim Cummings; Karen Allen; UnivCity listserv
Subject: Re: [UC] FW: You know you live in West Philly if . . .

You all realize if Liz used University City or something instead of West 
Philly people would be crying out, No, it's West Philly - University City is 
a marketing scheme! and then arguing about the boundaries of University City 
versus West Philly. (Anyway, it is Lenapehoking - West Philly is colonialism)

Given Philly Mag's largely suburban readership, is it so bad to provide a short 
list of quirky and fun things about the area? The same magazine ran an article 
last year where the author (not Liz) said that when out-of-towners ask him 
about nice places in Philly - he leaves out the ENTIRE WEST PHILLY REGION.

Here is a list of West Philly 
Neighborhoods:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Philadelphia_neighborhoods#West_Philadelphia

Perhaps you all could go through and flag all the ones that aren't real West 
Philly? Because I get the feeling by the time it's done, all we'll be left with 
is Cobbs Creek and maybe one or two others.

Amara

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Wilma de Soto 
wil.p...@comcast.netmailto:wil.p...@comcast.net wrote:
I knew it as the Philadelphia College of Pharmacy and Science.  My best 
friend's mother graduated from there in 1948.

From: Jim Cummings alaricvisig...@gmail.commailto:alaricvisig...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 14:04:02 -0400
To: Alex de Soto wil.p...@comcast.netmailto:wil.p...@comcast.net
Cc: Karen Allen kallena...@msn.commailto:kallena...@msn.com, UnivCity 
listserv UnivCity@list.purple.commailto:UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: Re: [UC] FW: You know you live in West Philly if . . .

Liz's picture seems UCD-approved.
By the way, my personal one is you are from West Philly if you have heard of 
the pharmacy college but never heard of USP (née Philadelphia College of 
Pharmacy). I work at USP, so I run into this a lot.
Jim
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Wilma de Soto 
wil.p...@comcast.netmailto:wil.p...@comcast.net wrote:
You're right Jim. I guess the point I was trying to make is Liz's depiction 
seemed to me a very limited perspective that suggested a more stilted, 
contrived, planned version of whar she thinks West Philly is that does not call 
to mind West Philly to some of us.

I live on 45 th St. near Pine. Did you know that actor Peter Boyle grew up on 
51st St. near Black Oak Park?

Of course Al diPalma is long gone and Murray's is in Narberth but many of 
things I listed are still here.

Thanks for writing.

Jim Cummings alaricvisig...@gmail.commailto:alaricvisig...@gmail.com wrote:

I guess that is the difference with being FROM West Philly and LIVING IN
West Philly (what Liz claimed). I have lived in West Philly for 25 years and
only scored a yes on Black Oak Park, but then I never go to delis or bars so
I should get a pass on some of these. I have guess on another few ...

Jim

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Wilma de Soto 
wil.p...@comcast.netmailto:wil.p...@comcast.netwrote:

 * You know you ARE from West Philly if you know what is we called The
 Dusty.

 * You know you ARE from West Philly if you remember Al DiPalma's Hoagie
 Shop.

 * You know you ARE from West Philly if you've ever eaten at The Beef and
 Beer and know where the Italian enclave is.

 * You know you ARE from West Philly if you know where Black Oak Park is.

 * You know you ARE from West Philly if you know if you couldn't wait to buy
 water ice at Overbrook Water Ice Stand.

 * You know you ARE from West Philly if you know the original location for
 Murray's Deli.

 * You know you ARE from West Philly if you know who the Orange and Blue
 versus the Black and Gold are.

 * You know you ARE from West Philly if you know if you can name the streets
 where the lines are between areas good and bad and are   VERY familiar
 with the phrase, but that's over the line!.

 * You know you ARE from West Philly if you know if you know the routes to
 get to Fairmount Park by either going over the top or down the bottom.

 * You know you ARE from West Philly if you have ever walked the bridle path
 on Cobbs Creek Park.

 * You know you ARE from West Philly if you know if you realize the person
 who wrote the other article would not have the faintest idea of what is on
 this list.

 From: Karen Allen

Re: [UC] FW: You know you live in West Philly if . . .

2011-07-13 Thread Kathleen Turner
I would qualify Wilma's list with and are over a certain age.

Kathleen

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Lalevic, Darco
lale...@wharton.upenn.eduwrote:

  The whole west philly vs university city thing pisses me off – they are
 two very distinct areas (even if UC is in West Philly). And really, if
 you’re going to complain about new names, shouldn’t we be calling it
 Blockley (Lenapehoking being the entire Delaware and Hudson basin)?

 ** **

 I was born here and have lived here all my life except for a couple college
 years, and I still don’t know many of the things on Wilma’s list!

 Although it did take me a few years to start calling it USP, and I still
 refer to the Tavern.

 ** **

 ** **

 *From:* owner-univc...@list.purple.com [mailto:
 owner-univc...@list.purple.com] *On Behalf Of *Amara Rockar
 *Sent:* Wednesday, July 13, 2011 2:38 PM
 *To:* Wilma de Soto
 *Cc:* Jim Cummings; Karen Allen; UnivCity listserv

 *Subject:* Re: [UC] FW: You know you live in West Philly if . . .

 ** **

 You all realize if Liz used “University City” or something instead of “West
 Philly” people would be crying out, “No, it’s West Philly – University City
 is a marketing scheme!” and then arguing about the boundaries of University
 City versus West Philly. (Anyway, it is Lenapehoking – West Philly is
 colonialism)

 ** **

 Given Philly Mag’s largely suburban readership, is it so bad to provide a
 short list of quirky and fun things about the area? The same magazine ran an
 article last year where the author (not Liz) said that when out-of-towners
 ask him about nice places in Philly – he leaves out the ENTIRE WEST PHILLY
 REGION.

 ** **

 Here is a list of West Philly Neighborhoods:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Philadelphia_neighborhoods#West_Philadelphia
 

 ** **

 Perhaps you all could go through and flag all the ones that aren’t “real”
 West Philly? Because I get the feeling by the time it’s done, all we’ll be
 left with is Cobbs Creek and maybe one or two others.

 ** **

 Amara

 ** **

 On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Wilma de Soto wil.p...@comcast.net
 wrote:

 I knew it as the Philadelphia College of Pharmacy and Science.  My best
 friend's mother graduated from there in 1948.

 ** **

 *From: *Jim Cummings alaricvisig...@gmail.com
 *Date: *Wed, 13 Jul 2011 14:04:02 -0400
 *To: *Alex de Soto wil.p...@comcast.net
 *Cc: *Karen Allen kallena...@msn.com, UnivCity listserv 
 UnivCity@list.purple.com
 *Subject: *Re: [UC] FW: You know you live in West Philly if . . .

 ** **

 Liz's picture seems UCD-approved.
 By the way, my personal one is you are from West Philly if you have heard
 of the pharmacy college but never heard of USP (*née *Philadelphia College
 of Pharmacy). I work at USP, so I run into this a lot.
 Jim

 On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Wilma de Soto wil.p...@comcast.net
 wrote:

 You're right Jim. I guess the point I was trying to make is Liz's depiction
 seemed to me a very limited perspective that suggested a more stilted,
 contrived, planned version of whar she thinks West Philly is that does not
 call to mind West Philly to some of us.

 I live on 45 th St. near Pine. Did you know that actor Peter Boyle grew up
 on 51st St. near Black Oak Park?

 Of course Al diPalma is long gone and Murray's is in Narberth but many of
 things I listed are still here.

 Thanks for writing.


 Jim Cummings alaricvisig...@gmail.com wrote:

 I guess that is the difference with being FROM West Philly and LIVING IN
 West Philly (what Liz claimed). I have lived in West Philly for 25 years
 and
 only scored a yes on Black Oak Park, but then I never go to delis or bars
 so
 I should get a pass on some of these. I have guess on another few ...
 
 Jim
 
 On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Wilma de Soto wil.p...@comcast.net
 wrote:
 
  • You know you ARE from West Philly if you know what is we called The
  Dusty.
 
  • You know you ARE from West Philly if you remember Al DiPalma's Hoagie
  Shop.
 
  • You know you ARE from West Philly if you've ever eaten at The Beef and
  Beer and know where the Italian enclave is.
 
  • You know you ARE from West Philly if you know where Black Oak Park
 is.
 
  • You know you ARE from West Philly if you know if you couldn't wait to
 buy
  water ice at Overbrook Water Ice Stand.
 
  • You know you ARE from West Philly if you know the original location
 for
  Murray's Deli.
 
  • You know you ARE from West Philly if you know who the Orange and
 Blue
  versus the Black and Gold are.
 
  • You know you ARE from West Philly if you know if you can name the
 streets
  where the lines are between areas good and bad and are   VERY familiar
  with the phrase, but that's over the line!.
 
  • You know you ARE from West Philly if you know if you know the routes
 to
  get to Fairmount Park by either going over the top or down the
 bottom.
 
  • You know you ARE from West Philly if you have ever walked the bridle
 path
  on Cobbs

Re: [UC] FW: You know you live in West Philly if . . .

2011-07-13 Thread wil.phil
Okay Kathleen. br /But not everything on the list. University City has been 
at least 30 years in the making as I think. Still things on the list West 
Philly people would or know whom to ask, heard people talk about them or know 
who to ask. br /br /Sent from Comcast mobile

RE: [UC] FW: You know you live in West Philly if . . .

2011-07-13 Thread Roger/Vince
I guess my friend Bill Davis does not qualify as a true West Philly person;
he only recalled about half of the items.  But what the heck, he's only
lived in West Philly for 85 years ..

Roger

 

From: owner-univc...@list.purple.com [mailto:owner-univc...@list.purple.com]
On Behalf Of Wilma de Soto
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 12:32 PM
To: Karen Allen; UnivCity listserv
Subject: Re: [UC] FW: You know you live in West Philly if . . .

 

. You know you ARE from West Philly if you know what is we called The
Dusty.

 

. You know you ARE from West Philly if you remember Al DiPalma's Hoagie
Shop.

 

. You know you ARE from West Philly if you've ever eaten at The Beef and
Beer and know where the Italian enclave is.

 

. You know you ARE from West Philly if you know where Black Oak Park is.

 

. You know you ARE from West Philly if you know if you couldn't wait to buy
water ice at Overbrook Water Ice Stand.

 

. You know you ARE from West Philly if you know the original location for
Murray's Deli.

 

. You know you ARE from West Philly if you know who the Orange and Blue
versus the Black and Gold are.

 

. You know you ARE from West Philly if you know if you can name the streets
where the lines are between areas good and bad and are   VERY familiar
with the phrase, but that's over the line!.

 

. You know you ARE from West Philly if you know if you know the routes to
get to Fairmount Park by either going over the top or down the bottom.

 

. You know you ARE from West Philly if you have ever walked the bridle path
on Cobbs Creek Park.

 

. You know you ARE from West Philly if you know if you realize the person
who wrote the other article would not have the faintest idea of what is on
this list. 

 



Re: [UC] FW: You know you live in West Philly if . . .

2011-07-13 Thread Wilma de Soto
No one said who is a TRUE West Philadelphian.  I said the author, actually I
didn't, but I thought it was a scripted, stilted PhillyMag view of West
Philly.

Mr. Davis notwithstanding he may very well not remember all the the things
on my particular list.  The fact he knew at least half of them would show
neither of us are too far apart.

From:  Roger/Vince rogerandvi...@gmail.com
Date:  Wed, 13 Jul 2011 17:22:14 -0400
To:  Alex de Soto wil.p...@comcast.net, 'Karen Allen'
kallena...@msn.com, UnivCity listserv UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject:  RE: [UC] FW:  You know you live in West Philly if . . .

I guess my friend Bill Davis does not qualify as a true West Philly person;
he only recalled about half of the items.  But what the heck, he¹s only
lived in West Philly for 85 years Š.
Roger
 

From: owner-univc...@list.purple.com [mailto:owner-univc...@list.purple.com]
On Behalf Of Wilma de Soto
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 12:32 PM
To: Karen Allen; UnivCity listserv
Subject: Re: [UC] FW: You know you live in West Philly if . . .
 

€ You know you ARE from West Philly if you know what is we called The
Dusty.

 

€ You know you ARE from West Philly if you remember Al DiPalma's Hoagie
Shop.

 

€ You know you ARE from West Philly if you've ever eaten at The Beef and
Beer and know where the Italian enclave is.

 

€ You know you ARE from West Philly if you know where Black Oak Park is.

 

€ You know you ARE from West Philly if you know if you couldn't wait to buy
water ice at Overbrook Water Ice Stand.

 

€ You know you ARE from West Philly if you know the original location for
Murray's Deli.

 

€ You know you ARE from West Philly if you know who the Orange and Blue
versus the Black and Gold are.

 

€ You know you ARE from West Philly if you know if you can name the streets
where the lines are between areas good and bad and are   VERY familiar
with the phrase, but that's over the line!.

 

€ You know you ARE from West Philly if you know if you know the routes to
get to Fairmount Park by either going over the top or down the bottom.

 

€ You know you ARE from West Philly if you have ever walked the bridle path
on Cobbs Creek Park.

 

€ You know you ARE from West Philly if you know if you realize the person
who wrote the other article would not have the faintest idea of what is on
this list. 

 




Re: [UC] FW: You know you live in West Philly if . . .

2011-07-13 Thread Brian Siano
Somewhere in the deep South, there are mailing lists where Jeff
Foxworthy routines are debated for their truthfulness, accuracy, and
historical legitimacy.

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Re: [UC] FW: You know you live in West Philly if . . .

2011-07-13 Thread Wilma de Soto
I think Foxworthy made a joke about that once.

On 7/13/11 6:15 PM, Brian Siano briansi...@gmail.com wrote:

Somewhere in the deep South, there are mailing lists where Jeff
Foxworthy routines are debated for their truthfulness, accuracy, and
historical legitimacy.

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Re: [UC] FW: You know you live in West Philly if . . .

2011-07-13 Thread Gary J. Jastrzab
University City has been used as a designation for at least 48 years.  
See Leon S. Rosenthal's A History of Philadelphia's University  
City (1963).


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Re: [UC] FW: You know you live in West Philly if . . .

2011-07-13 Thread Elliot M. Stern
People who habitually wear tweed jackets might occasionally lighten up. 

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Elliot



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 In case you missed it elsewhere . . . .
 
 http://blogs.phillymag.com/the_philly_post/2011/07/12/live-west-philly/
 Elitist pretentious snobbery like this from self-anointed sophisticates who 
 think they're better than everyone else will make the real neighborhood 
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[UC] FW: You know you live in West Philly if . . .

2011-07-12 Thread Kimm Tynan
In case you missed it elsewhere . . . .

http://blogs.phillymag.com/the_philly_post/2011/07/12/live-west-philly/