Re: [UC] The Historic Commission has ruled against paint!

[SKnight]

thank you for these links.
sk
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  Subject: Re: [UC] The Historic Commission has ruled against paint!


  Frank wrote:
  > Rizzo, Sinatra, Lanza, Labelle, the pixelated trees, that weird  
  > submarine/welder thing in South Philly and the animals outside the  
  > Morris Animal Refuge. Keep those, though.


  my favorite is 'the pixelated trees' at 13th and pine, also 
  known as 'springtime', by david guinn. it's the little black 
  dog in there that I love.

  here:


http://www.whyy.org/tv12/mural/guinn_bio.html<http://www.whyy.org/tv12/mural/guinn_bio.html>

http://www.whyy.org/tv12/mural/guinn_before.html<http://www.whyy.org/tv12/mural/guinn_before.html>

http://www.whyy.org/tv12/mural/guinn_qtvr.html<http://www.whyy.org/tv12/mural/guinn_qtvr.html>

  he's also got one in the same style called 'fall' at 9th and 
  bainbridge:

  
http://cml.upenn.edu/murals/images_murals/1002_jr.jpg<http://cml.upenn.edu/murals/images_murals/1002_jr.jpg>

  david guinn is one of the few muralists who 'gets it' -- how 
  to make an image work in a public space (like hs 'crystal 
  snowscape'). so many murals are hoopty because they're just 
  large pictures on a wall -- still, they have value b/c they 
  reinforce the validity of the basic idea that we can choose 
  to see art as a public, civic, act, and b/c they elicit some 
  kind of aesthetic response from us. the best murals to me 
  are ones that use tile and ceramics and other permanent 
  media (I'm thinking, isaiah, and that mural down near 7th 
  and chestnut called 'legacy', made with venetian glass). I 
  also like ones that are executed really well, like 'the 
  muses' down at 12th and locust

  david guinn's also got one with lots of dogs (called 'gimme 
  shelter') on the wall of the morris animal refuge, 12th and 
  lombard:

  
http://www.morrisanimalrefuge.org/images/mural.jpg<http://www.morrisanimalrefuge.org/images/mural.jpg>

  the best site I've found for browsing philly's murals is:

  
http://cml.upenn.edu/murals/mbQueryRequest.asp<http://cml.upenn.edu/murals/mbQueryRequest.asp>


  one of these days before I die I'm going to work on a mural 
  or installation, using ceramic tiles and shards.


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Re: [UC] The Historic Commission has ruled against paint!

[Elizabeth F Campion]

Thanks Frank.
I am glad you are familiar with the mural.

In defense of the "quality" of the mural, it suffered mid-project
redesign in response to threats from the HD.
And it has remained unfinished, pending "permission" to stay, from the
HC.
Viewers are seeing the "cartoon" or sub-painting.
I think it will look better with richer, more nuanced paint color and
worse covered with brick red paint.

The ladies don't look any worse than an average "Mummer".


Best!
Liz


On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 07:01:12 -0500 Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I saw that article, too. I have really mixed feelings about this  
> mural. I used to live at the other end of the alley from it. When I  
> discovered it I couldn't stop laughing. It's small which is a point  
> in its favor but it's so poorly conceived and executed. It really  
> looks to me like it was painted by some not very talented high 
> school  
> boy who dreamed of one day being a fashion designer. It's an  
> instantly recognizable style. I think it's terrible and I love it.  
> It's the only one of the murals in the city (95% of which I think 
> are  
> just awful) that I would care about if it disappeared. I completely  
> 
> defend this man's right to keep this mural on the side of HIS 
> building.
> 
> I particularly love the cable TV wire entering the building though  
> one of the figure's pursed lips.
> 
> On the other hand. I would personally volunteer to paint over that  
> atrocity at 13th & Locust, the one with the gumball machines and the 
>  
> bunheads. Ugh.
> 
> Rizzo, Sinatra, Lanza, Labelle, the pixelated trees, that weird  
> submarine/welder thing in South Philly and the animals outside the  
> Morris Animal Refuge. Keep those, though.
> 
> Frank
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 21, 2007, at 03:30 AM, Elizabeth F Campion wrote:
> 
> >
> > In 2003, pro-HD folks insisted the Historic Commission would NEVER
> > regulate paint,
> > despite contradictory words in the HC ordinance.
> >
> > I investigated, discovered and revealed an action against a 
> privately
> > commissioned mural placed on a side / alley wall of a property on  
> 
> > 410 S.
> > 15th (S. of Pine) in the Ritt-Fit HD.
> > At a 2003 hearing the mural was granted a 4 year reprieve, under
> > something the HC defined as a "Sunset Provision".
> > At the time, I feared the decision was merely an attempt to put  
> > things on
> > a back burner, to lower the heat on other proposed HD fronts.
> > And my fear has been realized.
> > Friday, January 12, the HC met and ordered the mural painted over, 
>  
> > with
> > brick red paint, so that the wall would appear more historic.
> > The HC also locks the property owner into a position that limits
> > improvements, because doing so would trigger additional HD  
> > interference.
> > The owner of the property plans to appeal.
> >
> > A story (with color photos) is in the latest PGN, link via:
> > http://www.epgn.com/011907/1transmural011907.htm
> > The property owner, "Michael Shur" is actually "Michael Sher" a  
> > longtime
> > friend.
> > I am proud that he is able and willing to commission art and to 
> defend
> > art and artists.
> >
> > The mural has found strong supporters among artists and the GLBTG
> > community.
> > A blog has been started at:
> > http://members.aol.com/tgirlhollywood26/mural/
> > I don't know who posted, but he (or she) appears to be a fan of 
> the  
> > mural
> > and angry.
> > One of the blogs better features is a side by side comparison, of
> > the existing wall  vs. what it would look like with a fresh coat 
> of  
> > red
> > paint.
> > It also contains an image that draws the probable outcome (and  
> > historic
> > reality for this wall) which is that a blank slate tempts 
> graffiti.
> >
> > The current ruling comes at an ironic time.
> > The Royals plan a Jan. 27 visit to Philadelphia.
> > http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=local&id=4931951
> > ... Prince Charles and his wife Camilla, the Duchess of Cornwall,  
> 
> > intend
> > to focus on themes of youth development, urban regeneration and
> > environmental conservation,
> > ... Besides visiting some of the city's historic sites, including 
> the
> > Liberty Bell, the two will learn about the city's Mural Arts  
> > Program, the
> > country's largest public art program ...
> >
> >
> > There are fascinating back stories to the mural.
> >
> > The mural started with a much lighter and lovelier theme of "Venus 
> and
> > Beauty".
> > The located close to Broad and South Streets invited themes of
> > Philadelphia traditions, (Mummer's Parades, Night Clubs and 
> Theater).
> > The mural segued to "Death of Venus" after the first threats from  
> 
> > the HC
> > were delivered.
> > The Artist felt under attack and despaired for the Mural's 
> survival.
> > She struck back in paint moving toward themes of restraint and
> > destruction.
> > She found herself unable to complete the Mural and it remains much 
>  
> > less
> > nuanced than it should be.
> > Even unf

Re: [UC] The Historic Commission has ruled against paint!

[UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN]

Frank wrote:
Rizzo, Sinatra, Lanza, Labelle, the pixelated trees, that weird  
submarine/welder thing in South Philly and the animals outside the  
Morris Animal Refuge. Keep those, though.



my favorite is 'the pixelated trees' at 13th and pine, also 
known as 'springtime', by david guinn. it's the little black 
dog in there that I love.


here:

 http://www.whyy.org/tv12/mural/guinn_bio.html
 http://www.whyy.org/tv12/mural/guinn_before.html
 http://www.whyy.org/tv12/mural/guinn_qtvr.html

he's also got one in the same style called 'fall' at 9th and 
bainbridge:


http://cml.upenn.edu/murals/images_murals/1002_jr.jpg

david guinn is one of the few muralists who 'gets it' -- how 
to make an image work in a public space (like hs 'crystal 
snowscape'). so many murals are hoopty because they're just 
large pictures on a wall -- still, they have value b/c they 
reinforce the validity of the basic idea that we can choose 
to see art as a public, civic, act, and b/c they elicit some 
kind of aesthetic response from us. the best murals to me 
are ones that use tile and ceramics and other permanent 
media (I'm thinking, isaiah, and that mural down near 7th 
and chestnut called 'legacy', made with venetian glass). I 
also like ones that are executed really well, like 'the 
muses' down at 12th and locust


david guinn's also got one with lots of dogs (called 'gimme 
shelter') on the wall of the morris animal refuge, 12th and 
lombard:


http://www.morrisanimalrefuge.org/images/mural.jpg

the best site I've found for browsing philly's murals is:

http://cml.upenn.edu/murals/mbQueryRequest.asp


one of these days before I die I'm going to work on a mural 
or installation, using ceramic tiles and shards.



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Re: [UC] The Historic Commission has ruled against paint!

[Krfapt]

 
In a message dated 1/21/2007 8:12:13 AM Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I have  definitely mixed feelings about Bonnie Prince Charlie's visit. His 
wife wears  remarkably weird hats.


I've asked her not to wear one when I take them on the tour of Historic  
Clark Park, prior to our High Tea at one of historic Spruce Hill's more elegant 
 
Victorian homes (the location of which will remain undisclosed so the Royals  
will have time to suck it all in, as it were, without the press, the UCHS  
zealots, or the great unwashed masses getting in the way). Victoria, of course, 
 
was Charles' great-great-great-grandmother, so he's tremendously interested in  
the authentic Victoriana we have here in Spruce Hill. How I'm going to get 
him  past the desecrations like Home Depot replacement balusters on the few 
porches  that haven't been torn down or infilled, the cheesy vinyl replacement 
windows,  or the pressure-treated-wood sundecks shamelessly bolted onto the 
rear 
shed  kitchens I don't know. Maybe by having the windows of the Rolls 
"accidentally"  mirrored on both sides so he won't be able to see out while 
we're 
en-route.  

Always at  your service & ready for a dialog ® brand 35-year resident & 
housing  provider
Al Krigman

Re: [UC] The Historic Commission has ruled against paint!

[Ross Bender]

I have definitely mixed feelings about Bonnie Prince Charlie's visit. His
wife wears remarkably weird hats. (See photo donated by Liz:

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=local&id=4931951 ). And will I
ever be able to forgive him for what he did to Lady Di? Maybe I'll go picket
the visit.

Also, Liz, your last post was 1500 words. Going for a record? Just saying.

--
Ross Bender
http://rossbender.org/abbraccioreading1.html


On 1/21/07, Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I saw that article, too. I have really mixed feelings about this
mural. I used to live at the other end of the alley from it. When I
discovered it I couldn't stop laughing. It's small which is a point
in its favor but it's so poorly conceived and executed. It really
looks to me like it was painted by some not very talented high school
boy who dreamed of one day being a fashion designer. It's an
instantly recognizable style. I think it's terrible and I love it.
It's the only one of the murals in the city (95% of which I think are
just awful) that I would care about if it disappeared. I completely
defend this man's right to keep this mural on the side of HIS building.

I particularly love the cable TV wire entering the building though
one of the figure's pursed lips.

On the other hand. I would personally volunteer to paint over that
atrocity at 13th & Locust, the one with the gumball machines and the
bunheads. Ugh.

Rizzo, Sinatra, Lanza, Labelle, the pixelated trees, that weird
submarine/welder thing in South Philly and the animals outside the
Morris Animal Refuge. Keep those, though.

Frank







--
Ross Bender
http://rossbender.org

Re: [UC] The Historic Commission has ruled against paint!

[Frank]

I saw that article, too. I have really mixed feelings about this  
mural. I used to live at the other end of the alley from it. When I  
discovered it I couldn't stop laughing. It's small which is a point  
in its favor but it's so poorly conceived and executed. It really  
looks to me like it was painted by some not very talented high school  
boy who dreamed of one day being a fashion designer. It's an  
instantly recognizable style. I think it's terrible and I love it.  
It's the only one of the murals in the city (95% of which I think are  
just awful) that I would care about if it disappeared. I completely  
defend this man's right to keep this mural on the side of HIS building.


I particularly love the cable TV wire entering the building though  
one of the figure's pursed lips.


On the other hand. I would personally volunteer to paint over that  
atrocity at 13th & Locust, the one with the gumball machines and the  
bunheads. Ugh.


Rizzo, Sinatra, Lanza, Labelle, the pixelated trees, that weird  
submarine/welder thing in South Philly and the animals outside the  
Morris Animal Refuge. Keep those, though.


Frank





On Jan 21, 2007, at 03:30 AM, Elizabeth F Campion wrote:



In 2003, pro-HD folks insisted the Historic Commission would NEVER
regulate paint,
despite contradictory words in the HC ordinance.

I investigated, discovered and revealed an action against a privately
commissioned mural placed on a side / alley wall of a property on  
410 S.

15th (S. of Pine) in the Ritt-Fit HD.
At a 2003 hearing the mural was granted a 4 year reprieve, under
something the HC defined as a "Sunset Provision".
At the time, I feared the decision was merely an attempt to put  
things on

a back burner, to lower the heat on other proposed HD fronts.
And my fear has been realized.
Friday, January 12, the HC met and ordered the mural painted over,  
with

brick red paint, so that the wall would appear more historic.
The HC also locks the property owner into a position that limits
improvements, because doing so would trigger additional HD  
interference.

The owner of the property plans to appeal.

A story (with color photos) is in the latest PGN, link via:
http://www.epgn.com/011907/1transmural011907.htm
The property owner, "Michael Shur" is actually "Michael Sher" a  
longtime

friend.
I am proud that he is able and willing to commission art and to defend
art and artists.

The mural has found strong supporters among artists and the GLBTG
community.
A blog has been started at:
http://members.aol.com/tgirlhollywood26/mural/
I don't know who posted, but he (or she) appears to be a fan of the  
mural

and angry.
One of the blogs better features is a side by side comparison, of
the existing wall  vs. what it would look like with a fresh coat of  
red

paint.
It also contains an image that draws the probable outcome (and  
historic

reality for this wall) which is that a blank slate tempts graffiti.

The current ruling comes at an ironic time.
The Royals plan a Jan. 27 visit to Philadelphia.
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=local&id=4931951
... Prince Charles and his wife Camilla, the Duchess of Cornwall,  
intend

to focus on themes of youth development, urban regeneration and
environmental conservation,
... Besides visiting some of the city's historic sites, including the
Liberty Bell, the two will learn about the city's Mural Arts  
Program, the

country's largest public art program ...


There are fascinating back stories to the mural.

The mural started with a much lighter and lovelier theme of "Venus and
Beauty".
The located close to Broad and South Streets invited themes of
Philadelphia traditions, (Mummer's Parades, Night Clubs and Theater).
The mural segued to "Death of Venus" after the first threats from  
the HC

were delivered.
The Artist felt under attack and despaired for the Mural's survival.
She struck back in paint moving toward themes of restraint and
destruction.
She found herself unable to complete the Mural and it remains much  
less

nuanced than it should be.
Even unfinished, and reflecting less attractive themes, the mural
developed fans.

Artist Dee Chin seems too fragile to explain or defend her work.
Her most vivid early memories include helping an uncle pass as a  
woman,

to avoid the death meted out to men by the Khmer Rouge.
When the disguise failed or the deception was revealed, the uncle was
brutally beheaded, at home, in front of the young child.
Dee arrived in the USA as a Cambodian refugee boy in time to be  
accepted

into the HS for the Performing Arts.
Dee learned English quickly and won awards for singing, acting,  
dancing

and art.
While still in high school she was chosen to paint a mural at CHOP.
Dee has triumphed in struggles against prejudices against her poverty,
status, accent, ethnicity and transgender choice.
Dee feels the threat against her art as a very personal attack.
She views the mural is her "child" and the HC as a stalker / murderer.
She is almost pa