Re: [UPHPU] Utah Colocation

2007-12-12 Thread Clint Savage
On Dec 11, 2007 9:07 PM, Wade Preston Shearer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I use webpipe and they seem pretty good...

 Tier Four
 tierfour.com

 (the are a php.net mirror and host uphpu.org)

+1 for TierFour

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Re: [UPHPU] Utah Colocation

2007-12-12 Thread Jonathan Duncan


On 12 Dec 2007, at 09:11, Brandon Stout wrote:


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Hi,

I'm looking for a colocation host here in the Salt Lake City  
(Layton and further north is fine). I've looked at a few places but  
most are too expensive. The server won't have a lot of traffic so  
preferably I'd like something under $100 a month.


I've found a couple places that I like the price but I want to see  
what others would recommend.


Thanks,
Eric


I'm not sure what you mean by colocation, but if you are looking for  
web
hosting, I own Stout Hosting LLC and I can provide hosting on  
enterprise
class server clusters with MySQL 5 or Postgres, and PHP 5 for much  
less
than $100, depending on your needs.  Send me an email for details.   
Send

me your phone number if you'd like a call.



Colocation is when someone takes their own server machine and put it  
in a hosting data center and uses the data centers' internet  
connection, power backup, etc.


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Re: [UPHPU] Utah Colocation

2007-12-12 Thread Brandon Stout
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm looking for a colocation host here in the Salt Lake City (Layton and 
 further north is fine). I've looked at a few places but most are too 
 expensive. The server won't have a lot of traffic so preferably I'd like 
 something under $100 a month.

 I've found a couple places that I like the price but I want to see what 
 others would recommend.

 Thanks,
 Eric

I'm not sure what you mean by colocation, but if you are looking for web
hosting, I own Stout Hosting LLC and I can provide hosting on enterprise
class server clusters with MySQL 5 or Postgres, and PHP 5 for much less
than $100, depending on your needs.  Send me an email for details.  Send
me your phone number if you'd like a call.

Brandon Stout
Stout Hosting LLC

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Re: [UPHPU] Utah Colocation

2007-12-12 Thread Jacob Hanson
Wednesday, December 12, 2007, 7:00:03 AM, you wrote:
 On Dec 11, 2007 9:07 PM, Wade Preston Shearer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I use webpipe and they seem pretty good...

 Tier Four
 tierfour.com

 (the are a php.net mirror and host uphpu.org)

 +1 for TierFour

-1 for TierFour

We spend a chunk of change ($) each month there. More
outages than I've ever dealt with. And they've actually blamed
equipment failures on us (e.g. NIC failure because DNS cache for a
domain was set to 30min). I could even look past that stuff if it
weren't for some problematic attitudes with *some* of the staff that
make it challenging whenever collaboration/support is necessary.

Jacob

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[UPHPU] phpBB3 Release Date Announced

2007-12-12 Thread php
phpBB announced the gold release date for phpBB3 this past Sunday. It will be 
released tomorrow at 10 AM MST.

Here is the announcement: 
http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=14t=611789

I'm the phpBB Modifications Team Leader so if you have any questions, you can 
ask me and I'll try to answer them. Maybe I could do a presentation on phpBB 
sometime if enough people are interested.

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Re: [UPHPU] phpBB3 Release Date Announced

2007-12-12 Thread Wade Preston Shearer
phpBB announced the gold release date for phpBB3 this past Sunday.  
It will be released tomorrow at 10 AM MST.


Is it more secure?



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Re: [UPHPU] Utah Colocation

2007-12-12 Thread php
I was guessing it was 95th percentile but the quote didn't mention it.

I'll look into a dedicated/managed server and see if I can find something at a 
reasonable price. This server won't be just for websites, email, databases, 
etc. I'd like to have more control over the server than you can with shared 
hosting so I can use it for subversion, cvs, etc.

  ---Original Message---
  From: Dave Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [UPHPU] Utah Colocation
  Sent: Dec 12 '07 19:41
  
  I'll second Tierfour.
  
  They price their bandwidth based on 95th percentile billing.  The numbers
  they give you are for a constant stream of data at that speed.  i.e.
  256kbps seems slow, but thats a constant rate of data transfer per second.
  You can burst to 10x your bandwidth amount.  So if you purchased a 512k
  connection, you can burst to 5mpbs.
  
  I'll also second what Brandon mentioned about hosting.  Unless there
  is a specific reason for wanting to colocate, using a hosting provider such
  as one that provides a dedicated server or a VPS can usually be very
  competitive and a good choice.
  
  Regards,
  Dave
  [LINK: http://www.silverrack.com] http://www.silverrack.com - VPS Hosting
  
  
  On Dec 12, 2007 12:00 AM, Eric Faerber [LINK: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Wade Preston Shearer wrote:
  
   Tier Four
   [LINK: http://tierfour.com] tierfour.com
  
   (the are a [LINK: http://php.net] php.net mirror and host [LINK:
  http://uphpu.org]  uphpu.org)
  I got a quote from them and the speeds they quoted me were 100Kbps,
  256Kbps and 512Kbps. Slw. I've replied asking for
  clarification. That's got to be a mistake. A server connected at
  100Kbsp? Have to use a dial up connection so the server speed wouldn't
  affect you.
  
   
  
  
  
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Re: [UPHPU] phpBB3 Release Date Announced

2007-12-12 Thread php
Yes. We had a paid security audit done by SektionEins 
(http://www.sektioneins.de).  SQL queries and getting user data has been 
standardized so that they are cleaned before use making it very unlikely for 
SQL injection and other attacks to happen.

phpBB 2.0.22 was released almost a year ago. There haven't been any exploits 
reported in that since then. You can't say 2.0.22 isn't secure. Like with all 
software, keep up to date and you'll be fine.

Here is a page that compares phpBB2 with phpBB3, 
http://www.phpbb.com/about/features/

Eric

  ---Original Message---
  From: Wade Preston Shearer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [UPHPU] phpBB3 Release Date Announced
  Sent: Dec 12 '07 23:19
  
   phpBB announced the gold release date for phpBB3 this past Sunday.  
   It will be released tomorrow at 10 AM MST.
  
  Is it more secure?
  
  

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Re: [UPHPU] phpBB3 Release Date Announced

2007-12-12 Thread Joshua Simpson
On Dec 12, 2007 3:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes. We had a paid security audit done by SektionEins (
 http://www.sektioneins.de).  SQL queries and getting user data has been
 standardized so that they are cleaned before use making it very unlikely for
 SQL injection and other attacks to happen.


It took them 3 major versions and several years to get input sanitization
standardized?

I'm just surprised that phpBB is still around.

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Re: [UPHPU] phpBB3 Release Date Announced

2007-12-12 Thread Velda Christensen

Wade Preston Shearer wrote:
phpBB announced the gold release date for phpBB3 this past Sunday. It 
will be released tomorrow at 10 AM MST.


Is it more secure? 
PHPbb hasn't been so bad if you keep it up to date, has it?  I use punbb 
because it's so bare-bones upgrades are easy for me, but I have quite a 
few clients using phpbb 2's without trouble - so long as they keep their 
installations updated.


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Re: [UPHPU] phpBB3 Release Date Announced

2007-12-12 Thread Kevin
On Dec 12, 2007 4:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 phpBB announced the gold release date for phpBB3 this past Sunday. It will
 be released tomorrow at 10 AM MST.

 Here is the announcement:
 http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=14t=611789

 I'm the phpBB Modifications Team Leader so if you have any questions, you
 can ask me and I'll try to answer them. Maybe I could do a presentation on
 phpBB sometime if enough people are interested. http://irc.freenode.net


Congratulations! I would love to see a presentation on phpBB and all the new
features in 3. Looks like there is a lot of new things in 3.

-Kevin-

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Re: [UPHPU] phpBB3 Release Date Announced

2007-12-12 Thread Wade Preston Shearer
Yes. We had a paid security audit done by SektionEins (http://www.sektioneins.de 
).  SQL queries and getting user data has been standardized so that  
they are cleaned before use making it very unlikely for SQL  
injection and other attacks to happen.


Cool. Sounds and looks (browsed the feature comparison chart) like the  
team has been busy. Glad to hear that they took the security issue by  
the horns.




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Re: [UPHPU] phpBB3 Release Date Announced

2007-12-12 Thread Joshua Simpson
On Dec 12, 2007 3:50 PM, Eric Faerber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 phpBB1 was released in 2000. phpBB2 was released in 2002. phpBB3 will be
 released in 2007.

 It wasn't until a couple years ago that they raised the minimum version
 from PHP 3 to PHP 4 for phpBB2. phpBB is old. You can't say they could
 predict every exploit that was going to happen when they first released
 phpBB2 in 2002.

 You certainly can't predict every attack vector that may happen;  however,
phpBB and phpBB2 were poorly engineered from the start, and slapping
security patches on every day or two because you didn't take even the
minimum protection standards anyone halfway knowledgeable in sanitization
expects is not the right answer. There's a reason why phpBB2 was one of the
most banned web applications on shared hosting plans (next to phpNuke, and
that's a club you don't want to be a part of).  Although I can't comment on
phpBB3 or even newer phpBB2, when I did do internal security audits of
phpBB2, it was an absolute mess.  I hope their engineers have learned quite
a bit.  From what you're saying, it sounds like they have somewhat - but I
can tell you as an application security engineer that outsourcing your
security handling is just the start.  The engineers need to be trained
themselves in best security practices on the web, which aren't always
apparent.

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