Re: Opening documents with Quick Look on iPad?
Hi Andre, Thanks but no joy using launch url on the iPad. Going through the iOS 4.2 docs xCode developers seem to have to tell the app which types of docs it can open. I hope we wont have to do that with LC. Regards, Simon -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Opening-documents-with-Quick-Look-on-iPad-tp3082167p3085350.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Various newbie doubts about LiveCode
Hi Giuseppe Le 13 déc. 2010 à 11:45, Giuseppe Luigi Punzi a écrit : Hi all, I asked some question in forums, but before buying Destop ISV package, I would like to get a little more generic information. I will start a personal project for a customer, and I'm searching a new IDE/languaje to develop it. I like how to develop in LiveCode, but I have a little fear because is something totally unknow to me (I don't know it's limits, and advantages over other enviroments). I'm between LiveCode and RealStudio. The project, is a Bills/quotes management. Because all commercial projects I see developed in LiveCode, are little projects (no offence, I don't know how to express it in english correctly), I would like to know, if LiveCode is suitable for my type of project. In fact, there are, at least, some dozens of important enterprise-grade solutions build on top of LiveCode+MySQL, LiveCode+PostgreSQL and LiveCode+Oracle at work all over the world. But, because, those solutions are RIA/Web/Web services systems used by middle to world class companies for internal needs (not available at all to the public internet), it's difficult to communicate about such project (strong NDA clauses are always bind to such business contracts). In between some other LC colleagues present on this list, i worked for years on such projects (LC+PostgreSQL under Linux, LC+Oracle 9i to 10g under Solaris) with great satisfaction and success, even before the availability of the LiveCode server. If your question is : is it way to build in a clean and full reliable way a RIA/Web enterprise-grade solution (ERP-CRM class) in using : LC RIA clients standalones and/or Web 1.0, 2.0, HTML5/CSS3 browsable workfows + a server-sidde n-tier back-end where LiveCode server+ your.irev scripting will replace all the tasks you could implement in using PHP, Tomcat or JBoss the response is definitively yes. About LC+PostgreSQL, i always prefer it over the LC+Oracle alternative each time the customer don't impose a Oracle preference. As you probably know, the PostgreSQL ACID compliance is in practice always lots more suitable than the Oracle's one... Don't hesitate to ask for more off-list if that can help. Best Regards, Pierre My project will work with PostgreSQL, and is not suppose to need something especial, but working doing bills, quotes, serving orders, and so on, working with a lot of grids. Some reports to show data, some chart, and nothing more. A normal Bills/quote management (in Spanish is Software de gestión, I don't know how is the name in english). I know reports an charts are external packages. Probably, I will do it with other ways, HTML or some other way, an once finiched the project, check for this externals to see If I need it. I ask, because at the moment, I can't invest 500€ only to research in LiveCode, and see if is worth to my needs. If I buy it, is for use it. Some success history or some information could be enough to get a final decision. Thanks a lot for your time to help me. And thanks a lot to Mark (@xtalkprogrammer) because I bother him a lot in Twitter ;) -- -- Giuseppe Luigi http://www.lordzealon.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pierre Sahores mobile : (33) 6 03 95 77 70 www.wrds.com www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Various newbie doubts about LiveCode
Pierre, I think Giuseppe is probably building desktop apps because as far as I know REALStudio does not build server side stuff. Giuseppe, I think LiveCode can do anything REALStudio can. I am a former REALBasic user (long ago, 2002 or something) and while I think their product is great, I decided to move to LiveCode due to the increased productivity. I've developed many applications using postgreSQL and MySQL and LiveCode, both server side and client side. I can't show them to you because they are not mine. Usually I am subcontracted to build a library or webservice while my contractor is building the main software, so things are not mine to show. If your need is simply to be able to Query a PGSQL server and process and present the data. Your needs will be well server and LiveCode deploys on more platforms than REALStudio so you get some cross-platform bonus in there. cheers andre ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Various newbie doubts about LiveCode
Andre, Giuseppe, Andre is right, is't ? In this case, LiveCode just push us to do anything we need at the speed of tough ;-) Here are some charts out of a PostgreSQL backend as directly requested and displayed by a LiveCode RIA standalone client in using only standard build-in commands (no server-side coding, no reports an charts are external packages even if using them is always best in ROI terms) : http://www.sahores-conseil.com/images/DMP_1.gif http://www.sahores-conseil.com/images/DMP_2.gif Best Regards, Pierre Le 13 déc. 2010 à 14:24, Andre Garzia a écrit : Pierre, I think Giuseppe is probably building desktop apps because as far as I know REALStudio does not build server side stuff. Giuseppe, I think LiveCode can do anything REALStudio can. I am a former REALBasic user (long ago, 2002 or something) and while I think their product is great, I decided to move to LiveCode due to the increased productivity. I've developed many applications using postgreSQL and MySQL and LiveCode, both server side and client side. I can't show them to you because they are not mine. Usually I am subcontracted to build a library or webservice while my contractor is building the main software, so things are not mine to show. If your need is simply to be able to Query a PGSQL server and process and present the data. Your needs will be well server and LiveCode deploys on more platforms than REALStudio so you get some cross-platform bonus in there. cheers andre ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pierre Sahores mobile : (33) 6 03 95 77 70 www.wrds.com www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
ANN: Installer Maker Plugin 1.5
Dear folks, Economy-x-Talk is pleased to announce a big update of the now well-known Installer Maker Plugin for LiveCode. The Installer Maker Plugin is the easiest way to wrap your LiveCode standalones in an installer. Just create your standalones and drag them into the Installer Maker Plugin window. Without being complicated, the Installer Maker Plugin offers you sufficient options to install your software on almost every Windows PC or Mac. The new update contains more than a dozen bug fixes and new features. Most of the implemented new features were requested by our customers. Some important changes are: deletion of pictures from the Appearance section is now possible, more and improved language options, parenthesis are now allowed in file paths, more built-in checks and fail-safes to avoid mistakes. With this new release, we are adjusting our licensing policy to make continuation of this project possible. We provide everyone who buys a (new or upgrade) license with free updates for three months. Currently, everyone can buy an upgrade, regardless of when you bought your license. Soon, you will be eligible for the upgrade price only if you bought your original license less than 1 year ago. If you bought your license more than a year ago, you might want to buy an upgrade right now, while you can still pay the upgrade price. Upgrades cost EUR 16.95, new licenses cost EUR 39.00. (You can see when your license was created by hovering your mouse over the version number in the bottom-left of the Installer Maker window. The license creation date will appear in the tooltip.) The new version of the plugin and forms to buy a new license or an upgrade can be found at http://rrinstallermaker.economy-x-talk.com . If you have any questions, please go to http://qurl.tk/du and fill out the web form. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 How to receive a free Color Converter license http://qurl.tk/kv (read the conditions) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Serious problems with command keys
I'm not much for posting bugs that just hang around for years, but there are some serious flaws in how command keys are currently implemented. If anyone of substance cares enough to follow this through I'd be happy to work with them. I've been a beta tester for many years with some of the software I use, but I get results and feedback directly from them when I take the time to assist in the resolution of problems I encounter. I don't feel the same sort of thing goes on with Rev/LC. Joe Lewis Wilkins Architect Director of Product Development for GSI www.glsysinc.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Serious problems with command keys
I have had good experiences of late with bug reporting thru the Revolution Quality Control Center. I have posted bugs recently and Runrev staff have been actively engaged in trying to figure out what is going on and resolving them. The place for most of the discussion on the bug has been through the RQCC. I have also been successful to reaching out to other Runrev community members who have been experiencing the same issues by posting my questions (and referencing the bug report ID) on this list and the Improve LiveCode list. The common point of connection has been the bug report. In my experience it is worthwhile posting the report first and then appealing to the list for confirmation, or help in tracking it down. If you have posted this already what is the bug ID#? Martin Koob -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Serious-problems-with-command-keys-tp3085663p3085706.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Serious problems with command keys
Thanks for the info Martin. I have yet to post anything, so there is no bug ID# as yet. I'm still checking out things with 4.5.2 first. Joe Lewis Wilkins Architect Director of Product Development for GSI www.glsisinc.com On Dec 13, 2010, at 8:37 AM, Martin Koob wrote: I have had good experiences of late with bug reporting thru the Revolution Quality Control Center. I have posted bugs recently and Runrev staff have been actively engaged in trying to figure out what is going on and resolving them. The place for most of the discussion on the bug has been through the RQCC. I have also been successful to reaching out to other Runrev community members who have been experiencing the same issues by posting my questions (and referencing the bug report ID) on this list and the Improve LiveCode list. The common point of connection has been the bug report. In my experience it is worthwhile posting the report first and then appealing to the list for confirmation, or help in tracking it down. If you have posted this already what is the bug ID#? Martin Koob -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Serious-problems-with-command-keys-tp3085663p3085706.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Various newbie doubts about LiveCode
Hi Giuseppe, I think a quick answer to your all of your questions is Yes. LiveCode works very well with databases with libraries included from the outset. Presenting data is now very definable thanks to the datagrid. The datagrid at first glance may look simplistic but stick with it and you will soon be displaying your data as imagined. I've built near on twenty commercial grade applications, none of which in their present form will see the light of day as they have all been for in-house consumption, all are employed in the printing and web design environment. As an example I ported a database driven telephone loging system from Delphi to LiveCode in less than one day. A few examples of application built: -Custom, brandable FTP clients and clients builder. -Print tracking (real time) and schedule notification system. -Client and base chat (help) sytem working over HTTP. -Colour profiling system to automatically sample Illustrator and PSD files and document respective colours and fonts used. I think this highlights a problem with potential new users of LiveCode in as much that it appears that much of the work done with LiveCode is for in-house or locked in production. It may an idea if LiveCode had a 'ShowCase' area to their forums so that application deatils that can be shown are available to new and not so new customers. As far as speed of development is concerned I have previously programmed in Delphi and RealBasic, both are very capable environments but I happened across LiveCode when it was Runrev and was amazed at how quickly I was able to build applications compared to both Delphi and RealBasic and remember I was fairly proficient in both and a newbee to LiveCode. The learning curve is very quick basically once you get used to the lanquage I find I can quite often copy my code directly from comments in outline flow diagrams for the application. Of course there are some issues but these (most) are being addressed with the latest versions of LiveCode. Anyway i would suggest downloading a trial and see if it 'fits'. Hope this has been of some use. - Andy Piddock My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Various-newbie-doubts-about-LiveCode-tp3085242p3085762.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RevServer set-up on OSX Server
If it is not completing post, I would start by opening it up and reseating the ram. If you have spare ram, try replacing that. But over all if it is under Applecare, then it is best to let them look at it so that you don't void the warranty. Bob On Dec 12, 2010, at 8:57 AM, Keith Clarke wrote: On 12 Dec 2010, at 13:37, Andre Garzia wrote: irgh at least the revserver part worked right? I don't know!! I was rebooting to allow me to copy over the test page when it died (aaargh!) What I do here is this: * I use superduper to make a bootable clone of my HD in an external Hard Drive. * In the rare cases that my mac goes crazy, I reboot from the external hd and then fix the problem. most of the times my mac will not hang during boot but some other stuff sometimes makes it unresponsive, for these cases, I usually use a secondary laptop and ssh to reboot the silly apple machine. Good ideas about back-up and remote mgt but I think I've got some kind of hardware failure, as the Mini isn't completing its POST because I can't force it to start with a system DVD or reboot via remote server admin tools. Looks like it's the genius bar for me! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Dictionary has stopped working
Hi Joe. I suspect you have a menu assigned to the card. There is a long standing issue with custom menus. Livecode treats the height of the card as the actual height minus the menu (were it visible). Odd I know, but I think they do this to maintain compatibility with Windows, which puts a menu on every window. The solution is to have a window resize function called by your openCard handler in the cards that need it. You could even have a window resize function in the main stack that checked for the presence of a custom menu and resized it accordingly. As an aside, doesn't anyone find the Windows model a bit odd? I mean where in the real world do you find a window within a window? Bob On Dec 10, 2010, at 2:01 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Has anyone ever had this happen to them? Everything is blank. I restarted LC and, finally, my MacPro, running Snow Leopard. The height of my substacks has been changing on me. Just started happening. Any chance I need to reinstall LC? Joe Lewis Wilkins ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Dictionary has stopped working
I think this could be easily resolved by changing the engine. On Macs, the engine should move the menu bar to a location above the actual window, instead of change the size of the window, which is completely unintuitive. Backward compatibility be damned I say. It's like rotating the earth every time I need to make a turn while I am driving! Bob On Dec 10, 2010, at 5:21 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 12/10/10 5:02 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: In my case the windows have been getting smaller. I'll probably end up doing the same thing, though that's how programs get bloated; not solving the real issues; just using work-arounds; real spaghetti code. It is reassuring to know that it's not just me. (smile) It's almost certainly your menubar. On Mac, the stack shrinks to hide the menu group, and puts the menus in the system menu bar instead. That's just how it works. During development, turn off Preview in Menubar in the menu builder. That should stop it. After that the menu group will be at the top of the card as before. Also, uncheck the destroystack property in the stack inspector, there was a bug in the engine that caused stacks with menubars to shrink when building standalones if that was turned on in some cases. Before building a standalone, turn Preview back on. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Dictionary has stopped working
Hi Joe. On preopencard lock the screen, then call your resize function. That should smooth things out. Bob On Dec 10, 2010, at 5:46 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Thanks Jacque, I figured it had to be something like that, but your suggestions are a big help. Methinks this whole method of handling menus should be reanalyzed and made a bit easier. I know this is tough, but this situation is a major hurdle for us coders to overcome. Come to think of it, I guess we people have memory leaks just like computers. Hmn! It makes things a bit jumpy, but I stabilized the cards by setting the size in an open Card handler on the Stack Scripts. I'm hoping that this will not even be noticeable in the standalones. We'll see. Joe Wilkins ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Live LiveCode Code Event #3
Hi all. These events take place at a time where I am unavailable. Still, I would love to help out on the GLX project where I can. I would like to watch the videos after the fact if I may. Is there a link for them? Bob On Dec 11, 2010, at 10:23 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: The Live LiveCode Code Event is starting in 40 minutes, at 19:00 GMT. Direct links to the video presentations are available at http://livecode.tv . Ue ChatRev to chat with the attendants. You can download ChatRev at http://bjoernke.com/chatrev . I hope to see you there. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 How to receive a free Color Converter license http://qurl.tk/kv (read the conditions) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Dictionary has stopped working
Hi Bob, I've resorted to an openStack handler in each of the different stacks. It's a little jumpy under the IDE, but I expect that will improve in the standalone. I gave up on Windows a long time ago. I keep hoping it'll disappear, but no such luck to date. M$ is much weaker without Gates' involvement. Glad to see he's using his talents in a better area these days. If you didn't catch it yet, installing 4.5.2 restored my Dictionary. I must have trashed 4.5.1 some way or another. It happens. Joe Lewis Wilkins Architect Director of Product Development for GSI www.glsisinc.com On Dec 13, 2010, at 9:29 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Hi Joe. I suspect you have a menu assigned to the card. There is a long standing issue with custom menus. Livecode treats the height of the card as the actual height minus the menu (were it visible). Odd I know, but I think they do this to maintain compatibility with Windows, which puts a menu on every window. The solution is to have a window resize function called by your openCard handler in the cards that need it. You could even have a window resize function in the main stack that checked for the presence of a custom menu and resized it accordingly. As an aside, doesn't anyone find the Windows model a bit odd? I mean where in the real world do you find a window within a window? Bob On Dec 10, 2010, at 2:01 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Has anyone ever had this happen to them? Everything is blank. I restarted LC and, finally, my MacPro, running Snow Leopard. The height of my substacks has been changing on me. Just started happening. Any chance I need to reinstall LC? Joe Lewis Wilkins ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Dictionary has stopped working
Hi Bob, That makes sense. I've rarely used any of the preopen gizzmos. If I need to i'll give this a try. Joe Lewis Wilkins Architect Director of Product Development for GSI www.glsisinc.com On Dec 13, 2010, at 9:34 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Hi Joe. On preopencard lock the screen, then call your resize function. That should smooth things out. Bob On Dec 10, 2010, at 5:46 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Thanks Jacque, I figured it had to be something like that, but your suggestions are a big help. Methinks this whole method of handling menus should be reanalyzed and made a bit easier. I know this is tough, but this situation is a major hurdle for us coders to overcome. Come to think of it, I guess we people have memory leaks just like computers. Hmn! It makes things a bit jumpy, but I stabilized the cards by setting the size in an open Card handler on the Stack Scripts. I'm hoping that this will not even be noticeable in the standalones. We'll see. Joe Wilkins ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [Semi-OT] [ANN] Sqwerly Chat
Well that's curious. I listen when no one is talking. Maybe we should chat sometime? ;-) Bob On Dec 11, 2010, at 1:27 AM, Scott Rossi wrote: Recently, Jeffrey Massung wrote: In preparation, I've already created a LiveCode chat room on Sqwerly: http://www.sqwerly.com/room?q=12027 I'm now in room 12027 (I think) -- from what I can tell, it's empty (there's me talking and no response... But then again, that's pretty much par for the course in my daily routine :-) Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Dictionary has stopped working
Good idea, though any off-screen stuff sometimes makes changing things later a bit difficult. Like - where is this thing? Joe Lewis Wilkins Architect Director of Product Development for GSI www.glsisinc.com On Dec 13, 2010, at 9:33 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: I think this could be easily resolved by changing the engine. On Macs, the engine should move the menu bar to a location above the actual window, instead of change the size of the window, which is completely unintuitive. Backward compatibility be damned I say. It's like rotating the earth every time I need to make a turn while I am driving! Bob On Dec 10, 2010, at 5:21 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 12/10/10 5:02 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: In my case the windows have been getting smaller. I'll probably end up doing the same thing, though that's how programs get bloated; not solving the real issues; just using work-arounds; real spaghetti code. It is reassuring to know that it's not just me. (smile) It's almost certainly your menubar. On Mac, the stack shrinks to hide the menu group, and puts the menus in the system menu bar instead. That's just how it works. During development, turn off Preview in Menubar in the menu builder. That should stop it. After that the menu group will be at the top of the card as before. Also, uncheck the destroystack property in the stack inspector, there was a bug in the engine that caused stacks with menubars to shrink when building standalones if that was turned on in some cases. Before building a standalone, turn Preview back on. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT: Powers of Ten
The eames version was the grand daddy and still holds up decades later http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fKBhvDjuy0 shows the true genius of the eames that their work is just as solid and gorgeous today as it was when it came out. they still amaze me. cheers jeff On Dec 13, 2010, at 7:25 AM, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: Completely off any topic, but it's Sunday, so... ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: glx2
heh heh. On Dec 11, 2010, at 8:38 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Mark Wieder wrote: Friday, December 10, 2010, 2:42:08 PM, you wrote: Is there any documentation for glx2 anywhere? I already like some of the obvious features in it but I'm guessing there's other stuff I don;t know about. Jerry had a site on ning, but I see it's gone now. I don't know if any of it got archived. No documentation? That makes it officially open source now. :) -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RevServer set-up on OSX Server
...thanks Bob but it's an early Intel Mini. It turns out that (for some unknown reason) this box doesn't check the new, low profile aluminium wired keyboard before selecting its boot media. I then discovered that the IR remote's menu key acts as the 'alt' key and so, was able to intercept the start-up and get a 10.6.3 server up, configured and backed-up to Time Machine before applying the 10.6.5 update. ...and yes, it has rebooted this time, so it looks like I'm back on the revServer set-up horse again! ;-) Thanks all Keith.. On 13 Dec 2010, at 17:23, Bob Sneidar wrote: If it is not completing post, I would start by opening it up and reseating the ram. If you have spare ram, try replacing that. But over all if it is under Applecare, then it is best to let them look at it so that you don't void the warranty. Bob On Dec 12, 2010, at 8:57 AM, Keith Clarke wrote: On 12 Dec 2010, at 13:37, Andre Garzia wrote: irgh at least the revserver part worked right? I don't know!! I was rebooting to allow me to copy over the test page when it died (aaargh!) What I do here is this: * I use superduper to make a bootable clone of my HD in an external Hard Drive. * In the rare cases that my mac goes crazy, I reboot from the external hd and then fix the problem. most of the times my mac will not hang during boot but some other stuff sometimes makes it unresponsive, for these cases, I usually use a secondary laptop and ssh to reboot the silly apple machine. Good ideas about back-up and remote mgt but I think I've got some kind of hardware failure, as the Mini isn't completing its POST because I can't force it to start with a system DVD or reboot via remote server admin tools. Looks like it's the genius bar for me! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT: Powers of Ten
On Dec 13, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Jeff Reynolds wrote: The eames version was the grand daddy and still holds up decades later One bit of trivia, the powers of ten idea was sent to the Natural History Museum on the 1920s, and the one I did was based on that original suggestion. I'm not sure if Eames thought of it himself too, while building chairs, but he may have also known about the 1920s letter. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Suffixes Rename_Anomaly - Renaming batch files in Livecode
This all reminds me of a file naming problem I had with Windows. If a Mac copies files with illegal characters to a Windows share (illegal to Windows that is) Windows will happily accept and copy the files, complete with bad characters, then later inform you that it cannot find the file you are trying to work with, even though you can see the dam thing and double click it right there! The solution for me was to use a DOS command to list files using a switch that told me what the dot3 filename was, then access the file using the dot3 equivalent. Not relevant to this problem perhaps, but it just shows to go you how tricky things can get copying files between dissimilar file systems. Bob On Dec 12, 2010, at 12:45 AM, Mike Bonner wrote: Assuming the strangeness is reliable, this should solve the issue. put replacetext(b,[^a-zA-Z]\.,.) into b On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 1:25 AM, Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote: Can you do something like.. if char -6 of item 2 of tln is not a character then put empty into char -6 of item 2 of tln? Haven't tried it here. On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 1:22 AM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: Good one Mike. Now I have to find out how to detect and filter the damn things. The list of songs on the right comes from some very old CD and DAT labeling stacks that were saved as RTF. What's happening is that I'm transferring all my DAT tapes to a hard drive archive, but all I get are files named marker 1.aiff, marker 2.aiff as the indexes turn the sections into files. I have corresponding labels with song listings that correspond to the indexes. This stack I'm creating now just matches those old lists with the sequential generic named files and renames them. On 11 December 2010 23:55, Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote: Found it. In your data box, put your cursor between the . and the i in delphi (track 12). Hit delete. Twice to get rid of the i then retype the i and it'll work. Is this another example of a unicode problem or something of that nature? All the files on the right (at the start) are this way, and fixing them solves the issue. On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 11:42 PM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: So no one here has used *rename* lately? On 11 December 2010 16:03, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: Hi Gang. This one has me baffled. Head against desk for a while. please load my test stack with go stack URL http://fulton.barncard.com/bugz/multilineRenameBug.rev; (It only creates suffixed files in a folder that you create or point to after clicking a button.) I am renaming files like this in a script in a loop: Rename file /Volumes/20101202 USB-320/test rename2/1 Audio Track.aiff to /Volumes/20101202 USB-320/test rename2/1 Audio Track.aiff results in files being renamed, but minus the dot suffix, like 01 Aerogel instead of the desired 01 Aerogel.aiff 1. hasn't anyone noticed? 2. Could it be related to that annoying message that comes up when users try to change suffixes ? 3. Or is it an engine bug? Has anyone else experienced this? I'm about to make a bug report. THis is happening in 4.0 and 4.5.2. MacOSX 10.5.8 G5 Dual 2.5 ghz - not tested on other platforms. any comments or ideas welcomed.. - ! - Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA * * more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:
Re: How to write the | char in a script
desperately trying to refrain from making a French joke it's okay I am half French. The rest is German-Norweigan. Imagine the conflict in MY soul! Bob On Dec 12, 2010, at 3:09 AM, André Bisseret wrote: I had tried that but, on my MacBook Pro (french) shift backslash does not work (return backslash!!) Here backslash is next to last in the fourth row! Thanks you Joe for your attention André ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Various newbie doubts about LiveCode
There is a third party plugin for charts that someone wrote. Quartum Reports I believe it is. Datagrids are pretty easy to work with, especially if simply displaying and trapping for lines clicked. zryip wrote DataGrid Helper to make that process a great deal less cumbersome even still. For forms, Scott Rossi makes a cool little plugin called tmAlign that is a much better alignment tool then what comes with LC. If you are making a simple app that accesses a database, reads data and presents it to the user, allows edits, and then gathers the data and writes it back to the database, LiveCode is ideal, especially if you already know how to work with SQL databases and are good at creating forms. Even so, Trevor Devore has a 3rd party plugin to dramatically simplify working with SQL databases. You may see a pattern developing here (pardon the pun). Where there is a problem, someone on this list probably has already developed a solution, or will if you ask nicely, and either makes it free to other developers, or else charges a modest sum. This list itself is well over half the worth of developing with LiveCode. They are the most helpful bunch of people (and talented people too I might add) I have ever had the pleasure of working around. Bob On Dec 13, 2010, at 2:45 AM, Giuseppe Luigi Punzi wrote: Hi all, I asked some question in forums, but before buying Destop ISV package, I would like to get a little more generic information. I will start a personal project for a customer, and I'm searching a new IDE/languaje to develop it. I like how to develop in LiveCode, but I have a little fear because is something totally unknow to me (I don't know it's limits, and advantages over other enviroments). I'm between LiveCode and RealStudio. The project, is a Bills/quotes management. Because all commercial projects I see developed in LiveCode, are little projects (no offence, I don't know how to express it in english correctly), I would like to know, if LiveCode is suitable for my type of project. My project will work with PostgreSQL, and is not suppose to need something especial, but working doing bills, quotes, serving orders, and so on, working with a lot of grids. Some reports to show data, some chart, and nothing more. A normal Bills/quote management (in Spanish is Software de gestión, I don't know how is the name in english). I know reports an charts are external packages. Probably, I will do it with other ways, HTML or some other way, an once finiched the project, check for this externals to see If I need it. I ask, because at the moment, I can't invest 500€ only to research in LiveCode, and see if is worth to my needs. If I buy it, is for use it. Some success history or some information could be enough to get a final decision. Thanks a lot for your time to help me. And thanks a lot to Mark (@xtalkprogrammer) because I bother him a lot in Twitter ;) -- -- Giuseppe Luigi http://www.lordzealon.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
OT: Problems with Inserting Odd Characters into PostGreSQL
I'm a dbase - sql newbie when it comes to actually writing a web front end for capturing and inserting data into a database. I can do code to read and use data, no problem, but this is my very first project where I actually all on my own without Andre's help, write a front end to accept input. Using revServer I managed to copy some robust escape routines to validate and block malicious code (thanks to Rabit - RevIngniter Libraries) but now I have this problem were people in foreign countries are using odd characters and for some reason the INSERT fails.. e.g Paramparaís a word used in a comment: the second character from the last is a curly single possessive apostrophe before s)...as it ended up in my log file where we do capture all the data in a text file... but it broke the INSERT, the dbase never got a record... Another case of a registration from someone in Spain I get this in my text log file: Address1: Avda. Europa 108, Urb. BarcelÛ Blq 11, 7 C Address2: City: M·laga State: M·laga Zip: 29003 Country: Spain but the database insertion fails. Can anyone help me with a LiveCode function that will massage these characters to escape them and pass them to the dbase (PostGreSQL) and be inserted? TIA! Sivakatirswami ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Dictionary back
Joe, check out Menu-Help-Release Notes. -Original Message- From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Joe Lewis Wilkins Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 11:33 AM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Dictionary back Incidentally, after downloading and installing 4.5.2, my missing dictionary is back. So far, some of the command keys seem to be working a bit better as well. Is there a list of fixes in 4.5.2 that I can check out somewhere? Joe Lewis Wilkins Architect Director of Product Development for GSI glsysinc.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Dictionary back
Thanks Walt. With my poor vision things like that escape me. Joe Lewis Wilkins Architect Director of Product Development for GSI www.glsisinc.com On Dec 13, 2010, at 12:01 PM, Walt Brown wrote: Joe, check out Menu-Help-Release Notes. -Original Message- From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Joe Lewis Wilkins Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 11:33 AM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Dictionary back Incidentally, after downloading and installing 4.5.2, my missing dictionary is back. So far, some of the command keys seem to be working a bit better as well. Is there a list of fixes in 4.5.2 that I can check out somewhere? Joe Lewis Wilkins Architect Director of Product Development for GSI glsysinc.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT: Problems with Inserting Odd Characters into PostGreSQL
If I am not mistaken, your database columns need to be defined as UTF16 or something along that order. I don't believe UTF8 will support foreign characters. I may be mistaken on the type of formatting (I never need to use foreign characters so I have no actual experience) but I think the principle is sound. Bob On Dec 13, 2010, at 12:00 PM, Sivakatirswami wrote: I'm a dbase - sql newbie when it comes to actually writing a web front end for capturing and inserting data into a database. I can do code to read and use data, no problem, but this is my very first project where I actually all on my own without Andre's help, write a front end to accept input. Using revServer I managed to copy some robust escape routines to validate and block malicious code (thanks to Rabit - RevIngniter Libraries) but now I have this problem were people in foreign countries are using odd characters and for some reason the INSERT fails.. e.g Paramparaís a word used in a comment: the second character from the last is a curly single possessive apostrophe before s)...as it ended up in my log file where we do capture all the data in a text file... but it broke the INSERT, the dbase never got a record... Another case of a registration from someone in Spain I get this in my text log file: Address1: Avda. Europa 108, Urb. BarcelÛ Blq 11, 7 C Address2: City: M·laga State: M·laga Zip: 29003 Country: Spain but the database insertion fails. Can anyone help me with a LiveCode function that will massage these characters to escape them and pass them to the dbase (PostGreSQL) and be inserted? TIA! Sivakatirswami ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT: Problems with Inserting Odd Characters into PostGreSQL
A search of the LiveCode dictionary for encode reveals the uniEncode function. This might be what you are looking for. BTW (and please nobody hate me for saying so) (and this is not directed at the poster or anyone in particular) a LOT of enquiries on this list I find the answers for by doing simple finds in the LiveCode dictionary, or for other issues google searches. We should all make it a principle we code by that we try to find the solutions ourselves before posting. That being said, I learn a lot myself by looking up these things for other people. :-) Bob On Dec 13, 2010, at 12:00 PM, Sivakatirswami wrote: I'm a dbase - sql newbie when it comes to actually writing a web front end for capturing and inserting data into a database. I can do code to read and use data, no problem, but this is my very first project where I actually all on my own without Andre's help, write a front end to accept input. Using revServer I managed to copy some robust escape routines to validate and block malicious code (thanks to Rabit - RevIngniter Libraries) but now I have this problem were people in foreign countries are using odd characters and for some reason the INSERT fails.. e.g Paramparaís a word used in a comment: the second character from the last is a curly single possessive apostrophe before s)...as it ended up in my log file where we do capture all the data in a text file... but it broke the INSERT, the dbase never got a record... Another case of a registration from someone in Spain I get this in my text log file: Address1: Avda. Europa 108, Urb. BarcelÛ Blq 11, 7 C Address2: City: M·laga State: M·laga Zip: 29003 Country: Spain but the database insertion fails. Can anyone help me with a LiveCode function that will massage these characters to escape them and pass them to the dbase (PostGreSQL) and be inserted? TIA! Sivakatirswami ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Dictionary back
That's what the SQL statement said. waits for the moans and groans Bob On Dec 13, 2010, at 12:27 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: things like that escape me ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT: Problems with Inserting Odd Characters into PostGreSQL
BTW, Trevor, does sqlYoga resolve this issue internally? If so it would make a really great selling point for sqlYoga! Bob On Dec 13, 2010, at 12:00 PM, Sivakatirswami wrote: I'm a dbase - sql newbie when it comes to actually writing a web front end for capturing and inserting data into a database. I can do code to read and use data, no problem, but this is my very first project where I actually all on my own without Andre's help, write a front end to accept input. Using revServer I managed to copy some robust escape routines to validate and block malicious code (thanks to Rabit - RevIngniter Libraries) but now I have this problem were people in foreign countries are using odd characters and for some reason the INSERT fails.. e.g Paramparaís a word used in a comment: the second character from the last is a curly single possessive apostrophe before s)...as it ended up in my log file where we do capture all the data in a text file... but it broke the INSERT, the dbase never got a record... Another case of a registration from someone in Spain I get this in my text log file: Address1: Avda. Europa 108, Urb. BarcelÛ Blq 11, 7 C Address2: City: M·laga State: M·laga Zip: 29003 Country: Spain but the database insertion fails. Can anyone help me with a LiveCode function that will massage these characters to escape them and pass them to the dbase (PostGreSQL) and be inserted? TIA! Sivakatirswami ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT: Problems with Inserting Odd Characters into PostGreSQL
I also found this. Of particular interest is the section on double dollar sign quoting: 4.1.2.4. Dollar-Quoted String Constants While the standard syntax for specifying string constants is usually convenient, it can be difficult to understand when the desired string contains many single quotes or backslashes, since each of those must be doubled. To allow more readable queries in such situations, PostgreSQL provides another way, called dollar quoting, to write string constants. A dollar-quoted string constant consists of a dollar sign ($), an optional tag of zero or more characters, another dollar sign, an arbitrary sequence of characters that makes up the string content, a dollar sign, the same tag that began this dollar quote, and a dollar sign. For example, here are two different ways to specify the string Dianne's horse using dollar quoting: $$Dianne's horse$$ $SomeTag$Dianne's horse$SomeTag$ Here's the link: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/sql-syntax-lexical.html Bob On Dec 13, 2010, at 12:00 PM, Sivakatirswami wrote: I'm a dbase - sql newbie when it comes to actually writing a web front end for capturing and inserting data into a database. I can do code to read and use data, no problem, but this is my very first project where I actually all on my own without Andre's help, write a front end to accept input. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Post Facto Live LiveCode Code Event #3
Hi LiveCoders, Past Saturday, 11 December, we had another successful Live LiveCode Code Event. While a dozen of code monkeys chitchatted about everything LiveCode and many other subjects, we enjoyed 2 interesting presentations. This time, Björnke was unavailable and Mark took the challenge of organising the event. Judy Perry showed us what she can do with LiveCode as a teacher. I was really impressed how she knows to exploit her tool chest to create useful and instructive examples. She also showed her Bingo game, which her kids really enjoy to play with! Mark Wieder showed us GLX2, a really cool open-source scripting environment, which replaces LiveCode's built-in script editor and enhances the IDE. Additionally, he gave us a quick preview of his new PowerTools stack. This tool is an alternative for the Tools palette and objects library in one (and probably much more than that, but we only had a quick preview). As Björnke wasn't around this time, there was no ribbon to raffle off, unfortunately. You can watch the video recordings of the two presentations. Judy's presentation part I: http://qurl.tk/ly Judy's presentation part II: http://qurl.tk/lz Mark's presentation: http://qurl.tk/m0 Please, let us know which day suits you best to participate in the live video conferences. You can cast your vote here http://qurl.tk/m1 I hope to see you all at the event next time. We will be making announcements on this mailing list and at http://livecode.tv . -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 New: Download the Installer Maker Plugin 1.5 for LiveCode here http://qurl.tk/ce ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: iOS apps not getting past review due to crashing
Same here. No idea what more to try. Best regards, Harald Müller. Am 14.12.2010 um 00:05 schrieb Brian Meriaho: Hi, Has anyone else had a problem getting past the review step with iTunes Connect when submitting an app for Apple's App Store? I've built an app that runs on several iPhones, checked the certificates, checked the launch times, but still get rejected with a simple it crashed. Not sure what is left to check. Regards, -Brian ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: savingStandalone Problem
On 12/12/10 7:08 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: I have the following code in a savingStandalone handler in the script of my main stack: go to card FieldPrompt of stack Prompts as modal if the dialogData is not Cancel then set the BandTrakVersion of stack BandTrak to the dialogData end if The modal window is displayed and I enter the version number I want, only it doesn't get saved into the BandTrakVersion custom property. This used to work, I'm pretty sure, but has suddenly stopped working. It should work as long as the dialogdata has a value. Check your prompt handler to make sure it's setting that. Is this for your own use only? I usually just use the message box to set the version custom property. The reason I'm doing this is that I haven't been able to find a way to access the Short Version information in the Standalone Applications Settings, OSX tab and I want to display the current version of the application in the standalone so if there is a way to access that data I'd be happy to use it instead of rolling my own.. The short version is stored in your mainstack in the revStandaloneSettings property set, but those properties get stripped out during a standalone build, so they wouldn't be available to your standalone scripts anyway. Using your custom property is the best way to keep a permanent reference. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: savingStandalone Problem
Thanks Jacquie. It's possible to change the version property? The dictionary makes it sound like that is the version of LC, not a user- defined standalone app version. Pete Haworth On Dec 13, 2010, at 3:59 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 12/12/10 7:08 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: I have the following code in a savingStandalone handler in the script of my main stack: go to card FieldPrompt of stack Prompts as modal if the dialogData is not Cancel then set the BandTrakVersion of stack BandTrak to the dialogData end if The modal window is displayed and I enter the version number I want, only it doesn't get saved into the BandTrakVersion custom property. This used to work, I'm pretty sure, but has suddenly stopped working. It should work as long as the dialogdata has a value. Check your prompt handler to make sure it's setting that. Is this for your own use only? I usually just use the message box to set the version custom property. The reason I'm doing this is that I haven't been able to find a way to access the Short Version information in the Standalone Applications Settings, OSX tab and I want to display the current version of the application in the standalone so if there is a way to access that data I'd be happy to use it instead of rolling my own.. The short version is stored in your mainstack in the revStandaloneSettings property set, but those properties get stripped out during a standalone build, so they wouldn't be available to your standalone scripts anyway. Using your custom property is the best way to keep a permanent reference. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Drag and Drop between Data Grids
Whoops! Looks like you use some kind of anonymous proxy. A lot of content filtering software blocks access to these because they are also used by some to bypass content filtering! DOH! I can get past it okay, but I thought you should know that although using web proxies is a common practice these days, a lot of people, like schools for instance, cannot access sites that use them. I can get around it because I am the IT guy! Bob On Dec 13, 2010, at 5:02 PM, zryip theSlug wrote: On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 1:05 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Ok I thought I understood this pretty well but this one has me baffled. I am trying to drag and drop between two data grids. The source data grid has one column. The destination has 3. But that's not important right now. When I drag out of the source data grid I get an error and when I click the Script button I get an empty mouseUp handler in a button called dgTrackDragDrop. What the heck is that?? Also if there is a good comprehensive treatment of drag and drop between data grids I have not been able to find it. I looked on the Data Grid Primer at http://revolution.screenstepslive.com/spaces/revolution_tools/manuals/datagrid but I cannt see anything about drag and drop operations. Bob, Have a look here: http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc/index.php?option=com_phocadownloadview=categoryid=7:data-gridItemid=63# I have also some materials for datagrids. Download the experiment 015. It demonstrates how drag drop data from a data grid to another. I fixed an issue in it and it should now work with the last version of the datagrid library. Best regards, -- -Zryip TheSlug- wish you the best! 8) http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: savingStandalone Problem
On 12/13/10 7:07 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: Thanks Jacquie. It's possible to change the version property? The dictionary makes it sound like that is the version of LC, not a user-defined standalone app version. Right, the built-in version function returns the engine version. You can store your stack version in a custom property of your own and read that when you want to display it. For example, in About boxes I do this: put the cVersion of stack (the mainstack of this stack) into fld version I never have to update the About box, because that line runs in a preOpenCard script and keeps it current. I update the cVersion of the mainstack once during development, and change the standalone builder setting at the same time. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT: Powers of Ten
Colin, yes the idea has been around for a long time and done quite a bit in all sorts of ways. The eames version was commissioned by IBM as part of a traveling exhibit at the time and based on the 1957 book by Kees Boeke. yours is a very nice interactive, and i think i may have played with it in the past sometime, it tickled some neurons! The Eames actually did quite a few short films and designed things other than chairs, they are just remembered for that the most! they did several exhibits for IBM in the 60s and 70s on math and science that were really top top notch. also sometime check out tocatta for toy trains -- quite fun! cheers jeff On Dec 13, 2010, at 8:51 PM, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: On Dec 13, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Jeff Reynolds wrote: The eames version was the grand daddy and still holds up decades later One bit of trivia, the powers of ten idea was sent to the Natural History Museum on the 1920s, and the one I did was based on that original suggestion. I'm not sure if Eames thought of it himself too, while building chairs, but he may have also known about the 1920s letter. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: datagrid: sharing grid templates
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 7:29 PM, JosepM jmye...@mac.com wrote: I have a doubt about the use of the datagrid templates. I have two stack with the same datagrid, copied and pasted from one stack to other stack. The template is in the stack one. The question is: opening the stack two force to open the stack one if this isn't open yet? Using the datagrid templates in this way is correctly? The template group that a data grid uses for the row/columns exists independently of the data grid. Even though two data grids may share the same template, opening one data grid in no way affects the other data grid. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems www.bluemangolearning.com-www.screensteps.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Extra Datagrid Columns
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Peter Haworth p...@mollysrevenge.comwrote: It seems that if you inadvertently set the dgText of a datagrid with values that have more columns than have been defined, the extra columns are arbitrarily added to the datagrid. Does anyone know of a way to prevent this behaviour either by ignoring the extra columns or by issuing some sort of warning/error? When setting the dgText pass in true for the pIncludeColumnNames property and pass in the column names on line 1 of the data: set the dgText[true] of group DataGrid to ... Se dgText in the API for more information. http://lessons.runrev.com/spaces/lessons/manuals/datagrid/lessons/7344-Data-Grid-API -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems ScreenSteps: http://www.screensteps.com Releasable Revolution Resources for Developers: http://revolution.bluemangolearning.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Getting a public IP address when connected to a router
Does anyone have a LC routine (or tips on how to write one) that will enable me to get a public IP address rather than the local one assigned by a router? Terry... -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Getting a public IP address when connected to a router
OK - thanks Kee (and Sarah). Terry... On 14/12/10 4:06 PM, Kee Nethery k...@kagi.com wrote: I agree with Sarah and to explain why ... When your computer is inside a firewall or gateway or router that does Network Address Translation (NAT http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_address_translation) there is no way to know what your external address is because all your computer knows is it's internal address and the internal address of the gateway that is connected to the outside world. You have to talk to a machine outside your private network and ask it what it sees as your IP address. There are a bunch of web sites that will tell you the external address for your computer. You'll need to parse the HTML that comes back to you. Sarah provided one web site that I'm sure works fine, there are tons of others. A search for my ip address? will give you lots of web sites that can display your real external IP address. If your software really needs to know the external IP address and you do not want to rely upon web sites created by others that you have to parse, you can build your own web site and hit it. That way you can be sure that the web page always gives you back the data in a format you can parse. Otherwise, when your chosen external web site alters its HTML response, your code will break. Kee Nethery On Dec 13, 2010, at 8:07 PM, Terry Judd wrote: Does anyone have a LC routine (or tips on how to write one) that will enable me to get a public IP address rather than the local one assigned by a router? Terry... -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode - I check email roughly 2 to 3 times per day. Kagi main office: +1 (510) 550-1336 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Post Facto Live LiveCode Code Event #3
Mark, This sounds really cool. Thanks for taking it on. I look forward to reviewing the videos. On Monday, December 13, 2010, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: Hi LiveCoders, Past Saturday, 11 December, we had another successful Live LiveCode Code Event. While a dozen of code monkeys chitchatted about everything LiveCode and many other subjects, we enjoyed 2 interesting presentations. This time, Björnke was unavailable and Mark took the challenge of organising the event. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
