And now, a world without Steve Jobs
Here's the best piece I've seen yet on Steve Jobs' passing: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2011/10/07/notes100711.DTL -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Jobs Passed Away
Merci Pierre pour ce lien René Le 7 oct. 2011 à 01:00, Pierre Sahores a écrit : http://www.hexalto.com/blog/hommage-a-steve-jobs/ A 2 mn video as a resume of Steve Jobs innovative creativity in about design, logistics, marketing, ... + its Stanford's conference translated to french... Repose en paix, Monsieur Jobs et merci pour tout ce que tu nous a montré des possibles... Pierre Le 6 oct. 2011 à 22:59, Bob Sneidar a écrit : Steve showed us how to run a company and enjoy himself while doing it. He approached his work with a dedication and passion rare it seems these days. He has certainly inspired me over the years in a field that would bore most people to tears. May he find himself now in that better place. Bob On Oct 5, 2011, at 8:07 PM, Petrides, M.D. Marian wrote: So, so sad, if not entirely unexpected. He'll be missed. :- On Oct 5, 2011, at 6:47 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: Our local news just broadcast that Steve Jobs passed away recently. Anybody else see this news? Sad, came across a TED talk he apparently gave several years ago: http://www.ted.com/talks/steve_jobs_how_to_live_before_you_die.html End of an era. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pierre Sahores mobile : 06 03 95 77 70 www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: And now, a world without Steve Jobs
YES ! Thank you Mark... René Le 7 oct. 2011 à 08:02, Mark Wieder a écrit : Here's the best piece I've seen yet on Steve Jobs' passing: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2011/10/07/notes100711.DTL -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Object Naming Conventions
Mark, I do almost the same... René Le 7 oct. 2011 à 03:03, Mark Wieder a écrit : Phil- Thursday, October 6, 2011, 12:28:38 PM, you wrote: Here is an excellent starting point: http://fourthworld.com/embassy/articles/scriptstyle.html Go to the Naming Conventions part. In addition to what's in Richard's writeup I tend to use the following conventions. Mostly just a carryover from other development environments since they don't really do much, but they tend to trigger the same neuron activity so it makes it easier for me to conceptualize what I'm doing: controlprefix example --- buttons : btn : btnSave radio buttons : rdo : rdoOption1 checkboxes: chk : chkShowLineNumbers tab buttons : mnu : mnuMainTabForm fields: fld : fldHandlers labels: lbl : lblSourceCode groups: grp : grpGraphicControls The only other rule of thumb I have is to keep object names one word rather than having spaces in the middle. And of course, that rule, like any other rule, was made to be broken when needed. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Google maps with custom markers while moving
Hi, Cross-post from forum, but kind of urgent, sorry Any idea how to achieve this? Some toolkits have a MapView, but I am clueless on how to do this with LC for iOS. Any thoughts greatly appreciated! Cheers, Maarten ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Object Naming Conventions
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, Pete, there has been a thread on this subject several times, but I'm not against seeing it again. Whatever you do, use a prefix to define ALL your objects, but find a rule that suits you. Don't use a suffix, I'm sure you will regret it. I use a two-letter indicator (but each to his own poison !) - only 2 letters (CAPS) and not 3, like Mark ! Custom Properties CPxxx Global Variables GVxxx Local Variables LVXXX FieldsMyxxx LabelsLBxxx Buttons BTxxx GroupsGPxxx Functions DFxxx I also deliberately use repeat variables : I, J, K, etc. (old Fortran rules, but habits die hard !) It also has the advantage of being crystal-clear ! It may take a little time to adjust to your new rules but, if you come back to your scripts in 6 months, you will be glad you invented them. I agree with Mark about length of names - one word is enough ! Best Regards -Francis ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
New iOS App in Store
Hi All, I just had my latest app posted in the app store… Forest Alphabet. I had made a desktop version about 7-8 years ago and wanted to update it for iOS/iPod… and add the capability to draw on the screen. It's the app I was working on when I asked the list about brush tools in iOS…. I used the code for drawing on the screen that John Craig graciously shared. Thank you to John. Thanks also to Scott Rossi. I used sounds from his tmaudio release. To top it off, I used icons from the Centaury Icon Set that was part of the Dec 2008 Rev bundle. While I mostly lurk, I have actually begun to find questions I can answer…. to be honest, that's kind of fun. This really is a supportive community. Thanks to all on the list. be well, randy ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: use-livecode Digest, Vol 97, Issue 15
Thanks a lot Gerry. I've tried opening directly the jpg images with a browser control and with the autofit option and the zoom works great. :-) The problem now is that the pictures are landscape orientated and bigger than the browser area, so when I open them they appear top-left aligned and I need them to appear horizontally and vertically centered on the iphone screen. This is my script: on preOpenCard iphoneControlCreate browser put the result into sBrowserId iphoneControlSet sBrowserId, visible, true iphoneControlSet sBrowserId, autofit, true iphoneControlSet sBrowserId, url, http://www.bytebiscuits.com/projects/indexbook/sobreimpresion_01.jpg; iphoneControlSet sBrowserId, rect, the rect of group Browser end preOpenCard I couldn´t find any option for changing the alignment. Is there any way for controlling it or any other way for getting this result ? __ Sergio Schvarstein __ El 07/10/2011, a las 05:06, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com escribió: From: Gerry Orkin gerry.or...@gmail.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Photo album Message-ID: c10e2e78-1751-4b2c-80f4-92b2cf125...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Use a browser control to display the photos. Gerry On 07/10/2011, at 12:44 PM, Sergio Schvarstein wrote: Hi, I need to do exactly what the photo album does on the iPhone and incorporate all 4 gestures on a single image: Pinch, zoom, drag and swipe. I have gone through the multi touch tutorial but the zoom quality is very bad. I need a real zoom, not a pixelated resize. Is there any for doing it with a native iPhone control ? Or any other way ? Thanks __ Sergio Schvarstein __ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Photo album
Thanks a lot Gerry. I've tried opening directly the jpg images with a browser control and with the autofit option and the zoom works great. :-) The problem now is that the pictures are landscape orientated and bigger than the browser area, so when I open them they appear top-left aligned and I need them to appear horizontally and vertically centered on the iphone screen. This is my script: on preOpenCard iphoneControlCreate browser put the result into sBrowserId iphoneControlSet sBrowserId, visible, true iphoneControlSet sBrowserId, autofit, true iphoneControlSet sBrowserId, url, http://www.bytebiscuits.com/projects/indexbook/sobreimpresion_01.jpg; iphoneControlSet sBrowserId, rect, the rect of group Browser end preOpenCard I couldn´t find any option for changing the alignment. Is there any way for controlling it or any other way for getting this result ? __ Sergio Schvarstein __ El 07/10/2011, a las 05:06, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com escribió: From: Gerry Orkin gerry.or...@gmail.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Photo album Message-ID: c10e2e78-1751-4b2c-80f4-92b2cf125...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Use a browser control to display the photos. Gerry On 07/10/2011, at 12:44 PM, Sergio Schvarstein wrote: Hi, I need to do exactly what the photo album does on the iPhone and incorporate all 4 gestures on a single image: Pinch, zoom, drag and swipe. I have gone through the multi touch tutorial but the zoom quality is very bad. I need a real zoom, not a pixelated resize. Is there any for doing it with a native iPhone control ? Or any other way ? Thanks __ Sergio Schvarstein __ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
How to boost LC sales
True for me, thanks be to Sculley and Atkinson. Why not have a 30 day free trial of LC bundled with every new Mac and PC? This is likely not as easy as it sounds. Craig Newman Original messages From Colin: While this is true, it happened to be free during the time that Steve was at NeXt. On Oct 7, 2011, at 4:52 AM, Tony McCoy O'Grady wrote: Had HC been a paid-for product at commercial prices, many of us who populated this list over the years would never have found it.__,_._,___ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
rev libraries of the late Mark Smith
Hi, just want to let you know, that i mirrored all the rev libraries the late Mark Smith put online. Just to keep sure they do not get lost. You get the libs at http://www.matthiasrebbe.eu/revstuff/marksmith Regards, Matthias Rebbe ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: How to boost LC sales
Hi Craig, Sure, this is very, very easy. Manufacturers are always willing to include your trial software with a new PC, be it in a box or on the pre-installed hard disk... ... if you pay enough! -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 See what you get with only a small contribution. All our LiveCode downloads are listed at http://qery.us/zr On 7 okt 2011, at 15:27, dunb...@aol.com wrote: True for me, thanks be to Sculley and Atkinson. Why not have a 30 day free trial of LC bundled with every new Mac and PC? This is likely not as easy as it sounds. Craig Newman ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: And now, a world without Steve Jobs
Mark Wieder wrote: Here's the best piece I've seen yet on Steve Jobs' passing: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2011/10/07/notes100711.DTL Thanks for that, Mark. The opening quote from the article says it best: There may be no greater tribute to Steve Jobs' success than the fact that much of the world learned of his passing on a device he invented. -Barack Obama -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: how to compare 2 very large textfiles
Alex Tweedly wrote: So I tried the sort + compare version. It is slightly slower than the array technique up to around 10,000 lines, pretty much the same up to 20,000 lines and then (sometimes) starts to edge ahead after that. I gave up trying at 40,000 lines :-) But if the data had been sorted already, or had to be sorted for some other reason, then it would be roughly twice as quick as the array method. Very useful to know. Thanks for taking the time to test that. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Object Naming Conventions
Pete wrote: Thanks Mark, that's what I was looking for. Pete On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 6:03 PM, Mark Wieder mwieder at ahsoftware.net wrote: Phil- Thursday, October 6, 2011, 12:28:38 PM, you wrote: Here is an excellent starting point: http://fourthworld.com/embassy/articles/scriptstyle.html Go to the Naming Conventions part. In addition to what's in Richard's writeup I tend to use the following conventions... Good stuff, Mark. Oddly enough, for all the tediously curmudgeonry in my naming conventions article, it doesn't deal much with object names, only variables, handlers, etc. In code, object names usually appear after a type specifier, e.g.: click at the loc of btn btnSend ...so it never occurred to me to prefix the object name itself. This prompted me to try something I'd never used before, addressing a control using only the control specifier followed by the name: put the rect of control btnSend Sure enough, it works. I don't know why this surprises me, since I've been using ordinal reference with control for years, e.g.: repeat with i = 1 to the number of controls get the rect of control i ... Somehow I'd gotten the idea that the control specifier was limited to ordinal references, but apparently it's not. So thanks for your post. It prompted me to learn something new, and if I get time I may add a section to that article on object names. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Object Naming Conventions
Richard- Friday, October 7, 2011, 7:41:27 AM, you wrote: Somehow I'd gotten the idea that the control specifier was limited to ordinal references, but apparently it's not. I do that rather extensively in PowerTools because I need an object oriented way to deal with any type of control. Since they're all subclassed from control I can deal with the base class when accessing them, then get the first word of the name to determine the actual type. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Reading PDFs in LC (again)
Folks, I have been reading all the responses I got on this issue that appeared under a number of different subject headings in the last couple of weeks. I thought people might be interested in my current position. First, my intention was to read PDFs as images (bitmaps) into an LC-authored app written to be run under Windows. This is clearly quite a restricted way of using PDFs, since they can contain readable text and much else which I don't currently care about. However, even with these restrictions it is not an easy thing to code a reader for PDFs entirely in LiveCode, so some third-party component appears to be needed. Second, I also had another need for input of bitmaps, which was to read TIFF files. In my original posts I didn't explain this as I thought it would complicate the discussion. Sadly this is another format that LC doesn't help us with. Third, I needed generous licensing terms, so that the additional component(s) to accomplish the input would be either free or else licensed on a pay-once basis, without per-user charges imposed on the end user, much like LC itself. Fourth (and last), I am writing an app for busy non-technical people which means among other things that any installation process should be simple, and certainly without any kind of extended interaction about options, licensing terms etc. demanded of the user. I have considered various approaches, with ImageMagick being the technical front runner (it's 'free' - kind of - and fulfils my technical requirements). I was scared of ImageMagick both because of the Windows-specific technical warnings on the download site and because of the license terms. The good news is that people on this list have persuaded me that I should not be scared. There is still some question over the license terms, since the one commercial supplier of the main underlying component, GhostScript (Artifex), insists that: If your application (including its source code) is not licensed to the public under the GNU GPL, you are not authorized to ship GPL Ghostscript or GPL MuPDF with your application under the terms of the GNU GPL if any one of the following is true: your application contains a copy of some or all of GPL Ghostscript or MuPDF; your application is derived from, is based on, or constitutes a revision of some or all of GPL Ghostscript or MuPDF; your application includes one or more functions that use some or all of GPL Ghostscript or MuPDF. These criteria apply to your application as a whole. Even if only one section of your application satisfies one of these criteria, you are not authorized to ship GPL Ghostscript or GPL MuPDF with your application unless your application, including all of its source code, is licensed to the public under the GNU GPL. If your application (including its source code) is NOT licensed to the public under the GNU GPL and you intend to distribute Ghostscript or MuPDF to a third party for use with and usable by your application, you MUST first obtain a commercial license from Artifex. Various people on the list have suggested that there are workarounds that render this statement untrue, and since there appear to be real-world examples of commercial products that do use GhostScript without a commercial license, I am going to adopt the approach suggested, hopefully maintaining the letter and spirit of the GPL. OK, the next thing is to try it - probably not using 'shell' (heeding Monte Goulding's warning and adopting his solution, which sadly I only half understand). I have command-line fear, but I guess I'll get over it (when I started programming computers, we didn't even have command lines - sounds like a Monty Python sketch, but true. The machines were not actually steam powered). I'll report back if I get to a point where my app (including its install process) appears viable. Graham ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Object Naming Conventions
Le 7 oct. 2011 à 16:41, Richard Gaskin a écrit : So thanks for your post. It prompted me to learn something new, and if I get time I may add a section to that article on object names. Hello Richard, This is my prefix : -- PRÉFIXES (types des objets) : -- ku = constante (unitaire) kt = constante (tableau) utiliser plutôt une custom property -- vg = variable globale [stack] vt = variable globale (tableau) [stack] vl = variable locale [script] vx = variable temporaire [handler] vp = paramètre [fonctions] vd = variable provisoire servant au debugage -- cp = custom property -- hm = handler main stack (handler situé dans le stack principal) hs = handler stack (handler situé dans le script du stack) hc = handler card (handler situé dans le script de la carte) hg = handler group (handler situé dans le script du groupe) ho = handler object (handler situé dans le script de l'objet) -- fm = function main stack (fonction située dans le stack principal) fs = function stack (fonction située dans le script du stack) fc = function card (fonction située dans le script de la carte) fg = function group (fonction située dans le script du groupe) fo = function object (fonction située dans le script de l'objet) db = fonction ou commande servant au debugage -- btn = bouton fld = field grp = groupe sld = slider lbl = label img = image grc = graphic I put also prefix before handler (and function) name (to see where it is...) Bon souvenir de Paris René ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Object Naming UnConventions
I rarely get to act like a pedantic jerk, especially towards a highly respected and iconic personage such as Richard Gaskin. Not kidding about any of item 2 of line 1. But ordinal would be 'first control. Cardinal would be control 1 That felt better than I thought it would. I am sure I will regret it, though. No kidding about item 1 of line 5. Craig -Original Message- From: Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com To: use-livecode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Fri, Oct 7, 2011 6:43 am Subject: Re: Object Naming Conventions Pete wrote: Thanks Mark, that's what I was looking for. Pete On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 6:03 PM, Mark Wieder mwieder at ahsoftware.net wrote: Phil- Thursday, October 6, 2011, 12:28:38 PM, you wrote: Here is an excellent starting point: http://fourthworld.com/embassy/articles/scriptstyle.html Go to the Naming Conventions part. In addition to what's in Richard's writeup I tend to use the following conventions... Good stuff, Mark. Oddly enough, for all the tediously curmudgeonry in my naming conventions article, it doesn't deal much with object names, only variables, handlers, etc. In code, object names usually appear after a type specifier, e.g.: click at the loc of btn btnSend ...so it never occurred to me to prefix the object name itself. This prompted me to try something I'd never used before, addressing a control using only the control specifier followed by the name: put the rect of control btnSend Sure enough, it works. I don't know why this surprises me, since I've been using ordinal reference with control for years, e.g.: repeat with i = 1 to the number of controls get the rect of control i ... Somehow I'd gotten the idea that the control specifier was limited to ordinal references, but apparently it's not. So thanks for your post. It prompted me to learn something new, and if I get time I may add a section to that article on object names. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Object Naming Conventions
Rene, I really like the idea of prefixes for handlers and functions that tell you where they are located. I'd probably add a prefix for handlers in a library as well. Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 8:44 AM, René Micout rene.mic...@numericable.comwrote: Le 7 oct. 2011 à 16:41, Richard Gaskin a écrit : So thanks for your post. It prompted me to learn something new, and if I get time I may add a section to that article on object names. Hello Richard, This is my prefix : -- PRÉFIXES (types des objets) : -- ku = constante (unitaire) kt = constante (tableau) utiliser plutôt une custom property -- vg = variable globale [stack] vt = variable globale (tableau) [stack] vl = variable locale [script] vx = variable temporaire [handler] vp = paramètre [fonctions] vd = variable provisoire servant au debugage -- cp = custom property -- hm = handler main stack (handler situé dans le stack principal) hs = handler stack (handler situé dans le script du stack) hc = handler card (handler situé dans le script de la carte) hg = handler group (handler situé dans le script du groupe) ho = handler object (handler situé dans le script de l'objet) -- fm = function main stack (fonction située dans le stack principal) fs = function stack (fonction située dans le script du stack) fc = function card (fonction située dans le script de la carte) fg = function group (fonction située dans le script du groupe) fo = function object (fonction située dans le script de l'objet) db = fonction ou commande servant au debugage -- btn = bouton fld = field grp = groupe sld = slider lbl = label img = image grc = graphic I put also prefix before handler (and function) name (to see where it is...) Bon souvenir de Paris René ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: CBT using LiveCode - Computer Based Training
Hi Phil and all of you who answer my questions in private messages! I will continue this conversation using private email. Many Thanks again! Al ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Reading PDFs in LC (again)
Graham Samuel wrote: I was scared of ImageMagick both because of the Windows-specific technical warnings on the download site and because of the license terms. The good news is that people on this list have persuaded me that I should not be scared. There is still some question over the license terms, since the one commercial supplier of the main underlying component, GhostScript (Artifex), insists that: If your application (including its source code) is not licensed to the public under the GNU GPL, you are not authorized to ship GPL Ghostscript or GPL MuPDF with your application under the terms of the GNU GPL if any one of the following is true: your application contains a copy of some or all of GPL Ghostscript or MuPDF; your application is derived from, is based on, or constitutes a revision of some or all of GPL Ghostscript or MuPDF; your application includes one or more functions that use some or all of GPL Ghostscript or MuPDF. These criteria apply to your application as a whole. Even if only one section of your application satisfies one of these criteria, you are not authorized to ship GPL Ghostscript or GPL MuPDF with your application unless your application, including all of its source code, is licensed to the public under the GNU GPL. If your application (including its source code) is NOT licensed to the public under the GNU GPL and you intend to distribute Ghostscript or MuPDF to a third party for use with and usable by your application, you MUST first obtain a commercial license from Artifex. Various people on the list have suggested that there are workarounds that render this statement untrue, and since there appear to be real-world examples of commercial products that do use GhostScript without a commercial license, I am going to adopt the approach suggested, hopefully maintaining the letter and spirit of the GPL. People have all sorts of opinions about what GPL means, but that quoted section above seems pretty clear. When in doubt about a particular usage, it may be best to contact the vendor directly for guidance. No one else can describe a creator's intentions better than the creator. :) I have command-line fear, but I guess I'll get over it As a long-time Mac user I did too, for many years. But the more I got interested in servers, the more I found myself actually enjoying the command line. Now I've been adding command line interfaces to some of my GUI apps to allow uses to automate some operations. Kinda fun once you get the hang of it. I found this site tremendously helpful for learning CLI: http://linuxcommand.org/ (when I started programming computers, we didn't even have command lines - sounds like a Monty Python sketch, but true. LOL - yes, it does. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Object naming conventions
Pete, It's a great question, but the last time this was asked on the list I think the discussion went on for three lifetimes (in use-livecode list years) on what exactly should be the standard to use. It seems there's more and different naming conventions in the world than Tim Hortons has served cups of coffee, so if you are trying to automate layout based on what others use you're likely to discover the meaning of life, the universe and everything before completing half of it ;-) Richard Gaskin's article is a great start, and I think that most of us that have coded for a number of years have done something similar. Personally I think there are really only three things one needs to follow; 1. Don't worry about what others do, just name everything in a format that really makes sense to you and your team today, and in the future. 2. Keep the names as short and uncomplicated as possible. 3. Write down what your naming convention standards are so that others can refer to it, and check those standards with your team on a regular basis to make sure it continues to work for them. Naming is only a way of better understanding what somebody was trying to do in their script, and that somebody is likely you in the future !! So, don't forget comments which are as important but generally considered as kindergarden practice by self proclaimed expert scripters ;-) best, Bob... From: Pete p...@mollysrevenge.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Subject: Object Naming Conventions Message-ID: cabx6j9mopo_9zn3+5usefnp-wyt8w2xfzu1lavp1mdxhuyb...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I vaguely remember a thread on this topic a while back. I'm interested in what naming conventions people have for stacks/cards/controls, if any. This is in connection with a project I'm working on to automate laying out controls on a card. I'm currently using a naming convention of my own but I'd like to provide a way for other conventions to be used, in particular the use of prefix or suffix characters in names of different types of objects. Any input is most welcome. Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com Bob Earp White Rock, British Columbia. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Object Naming UnConventions
dunbarx wrote: I rarely get to act like a pedantic jerk, especially towards a highly respected and iconic personage such as Richard Gaskin. Not kidding about any of item 2 of line 1. But ordinal would be 'first control. Cardinal would be control 1 That felt better than I thought it would. I am sure I will regret it, though. No kidding about item 1 of line 5. Damn - there goes my writing career. :) Thank you very much for the kind words, but if you've read many of the lengthy posts I write you'll find they're often riddled with all sorts of errors. A good friends suggests that one reason I write long posts is that the sheer volume of materials makes it harder to spot the mistakes. :) But on this issue of ordinal vs cardinal, I may be thinking of a more colloquial usage than perhaps programming vernacular. It's my understanding that ordinal simply refers to the order or rank of things, such as layer numbering would impose, whether the reference is expressed numerically or textually (i.e., it would seem to apply to both 2 or second). Cardinal means prime or most important, which had led me to sometimes use cardinal when describing object references by ID, since those are (or that is, were until very recently) immutably fixed and therefore the most reliable form of reference. That said, I program in relatively few languages (these days only LiveCode and JavaScript; haven't touched a C compiler in many years, and Lisp sadly remains on my untouched to-do list), so there may be widely used conventions for these terms among programmers that I'm merely ignorant of. In my book ignorant is a good word, since no one knows everything so all of us are ignorant of one thing or another, and being ignorant simply means there's something new to learn. I'll wear that label with pride. :) Is this a common convention to use cardinal when describing numeric ordering references, and ordinal only for their textual equivalent? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Object naming conventions
Bob Earp wrote: Personally I think there are really only three things one needs to follow; 1. Don't worry about what others do, just name everything in a format that really makes sense to you and your team today, and in the future. 2. Keep the names as short and uncomplicated as possible. 3. Write down what your naming convention standards are so that others can refer to it, and check those standards with your team on a regular basis to make sure it continues to work for them. That's a great set of rules, Bob. May I have your permission to include them in an update to my naming conventions article (with attribution, of course)? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: CBT using LiveCode - Computer Based Training
Phil, I'm not sure what you mean by ... a web version of the content delivery part, to free users from having to install software ..., particularly the latter part. One of the advantages of LiveCode is that you can deliver eLearning content as a stand-alone without the need to load anything. In my experience the decision to go web-based or not is a complex one based on how media rich one wants the content vs. ease of distribution, but nothing to do with having to load something on a users computer. It's complex because of the fear of loss of control of the content, the desire to rapidly distribute changes in content (that rarely happens), and the misunderstanding that delivering large and high quality media over the web or an intranet just takes time. best, Bob... I am still quite busy adding features and structural changes to a CBT system I wrote in 2003-05. Most recently we are creating a web version of the content delivery part, to free users from having to install software on their computers before taking training. Bob Earp White Rock, British Columbia. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Object naming conventions
Thanks for the thoughts Bob. For those who have replied, here's the reason behind the question. I'm about to ask for beta testers for an LC tool that greatly speeds up the development of applications that use SQL databases. Part of the tool is a palette of controls that you can drag and drop onto your cards, answer a couple of easy questions and the control will be linked to your database. Right now, I use a naming convention for controls so that the tool's runtime library can recognize controls that are significant to it. My concern is that I'm imposing my naming convention on anyone who wants to make use of the tool. Whether you'd be willing to give up your naming conventions in exchange for the productivity gains you'll get from using the tool - that's the question. I'm considering providing an alternative by using a custom property of the control to store the info I need and let people name the controls according to their own conventions. But that is a fair amount of coding and retesting to be done so I thought I would try to gauge the sentiment on naming conventions before starting down that path. Hopefully, that doesn't break any forum rules. Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Bob Earp rje...@hotmail.com wrote: Pete, It's a great question, but the last time this was asked on the list I think the discussion went on for three lifetimes (in use-livecode list years) on what exactly should be the standard to use. It seems there's more and different naming conventions in the world than Tim Hortons has served cups of coffee, so if you are trying to automate layout based on what others use you're likely to discover the meaning of life, the universe and everything before completing half of it ;-) Richard Gaskin's article is a great start, and I think that most of us that have coded for a number of years have done something similar. Personally I think there are really only three things one needs to follow; 1. Don't worry about what others do, just name everything in a format that really makes sense to you and your team today, and in the future. 2. Keep the names as short and uncomplicated as possible. 3. Write down what your naming convention standards are so that others can refer to it, and check those standards with your team on a regular basis to make sure it continues to work for them. Naming is only a way of better understanding what somebody was trying to do in their script, and that somebody is likely you in the future !! So, don't forget comments which are as important but generally considered as kindergarden practice by self proclaimed expert scripters ;-) best, Bob... From: Pete p...@mollysrevenge.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Subject: Object Naming Conventions Message-ID: cabx6j9mopo_9zn3+5usefnp-wyt8w2xfzu1lavp1mdxhuyb...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I vaguely remember a thread on this topic a while back. I'm interested in what naming conventions people have for stacks/cards/controls, if any. This is in connection with a project I'm working on to automate laying out controls on a card. I'm currently using a naming convention of my own but I'd like to provide a way for other conventions to be used, in particular the use of prefix or suffix characters in names of different types of objects. Any input is most welcome. Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com Bob Earp White Rock, British Columbia. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: rev libraries of the late Mark Smith
and why not on Rev Online? On 7 October 2011 06:36, Matthias Rebbe matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.dewrote: Hi, just want to let you know, that i mirrored all the rev libraries the late Mark Smith put online. Just to keep sure they do not get lost. You get the libs at http://www.matthiasrebbe.eu/revstuff/marksmith Regards, Matthias Rebbe ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New iOS App in Store
Congrats, Randy! How long and difficult was the App Store approval cycle? Thanks, Tom Bodine -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/New-iOS-App-in-Store-tp3882022p3883000.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Object Naming Conventions
On 10/7/11 6:37 AM, Francis Nugent Dixon wrote: Whatever you do, use a prefix to define ALL your objects, I never do, I don't see any advantage, and for me it makes my scripts harder to read. It's easy to see what type an object is if you forget. In fact, the only consistent naming scheme I use for objects is lbl in a field name, so that I can skip label fields in repeat loops. We're all different. I really doubt any two of us codes the same way. :) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: rev libraries of the late Mark Smith
probably a message to Heather (supp...@runrev.com) would solve that... she could add them to his RevOnline space which lives on On 7 October 2011 10:35, Matthias Rebbe matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.dewrote: Hi Stephen, because i am not sure, if it is allowed to upload files from others to my rev-online space. Regards, Matthias _ _ Matthias Rebbe Bramkampsieke 13 D-32312 Lübbecke Tel +49 57 41 - 31 00 00 mobil +49 160 - 550 44 62 Fax+49 57 41 - 310 0 02 E-Mail matth...@matthiasrebbe.eu http://www.matthiasrebbe.eu Am 07.10.2011 um 18:57 schrieb stephen barncard: and why not on Rev Online? On 7 October 2011 06:36, Matthias Rebbe matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.dewrote: Hi, just want to let you know, that i mirrored all the rev libraries the late Mark Smith put online. Just to keep sure they do not get lost. You get the libs at http://www.matthiasrebbe.eu/revstuff/marksmith Regards, Matthias Rebbe ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New iOS App in Store
Hi Tom, Waiting for Review …. Oct 1st. In Review …. Oct 6 at 11:26 a.m. Processing for Sale …. Oct 6 3:20 p.m. Ready for Sale …. Oct 6 4:30 p.m. This turn around time was a bit faster than normal. Seven days is common… and this was the shortest In Review time I've had with an app. My app updates have all been reviewed and processed for store in about four days. be well, randy - On Oct 7, 2011, at 12:23 PM, tbodine wrote: Congrats, Randy! How long and difficult was the App Store approval cycle? Thanks, Tom Bodine -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/New-iOS-App-in-Store-tp3882022p3883000.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New iOS App in Store
Congratulations On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Randy Hengst iowahen...@mac.com wrote: Hi Tom, Waiting for Review …. Oct 1st. In Review …. Oct 6 at 11:26 a.m. Processing for Sale …. Oct 6 3:20 p.m. Ready for Sale …. Oct 6 4:30 p.m. This turn around time was a bit faster than normal. Seven days is common… and this was the shortest In Review time I've had with an app. My app updates have all been reviewed and processed for store in about four days. be well, randy - On Oct 7, 2011, at 12:23 PM, tbodine wrote: Congrats, Randy! How long and difficult was the App Store approval cycle? Thanks, Tom Bodine -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/New-iOS-App-in-Store-tp3882022p3883000.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: CBT using LiveCode - Computer Based Training
Hi Bob, On 10/7/11 9:35 AM, Bob Earp wrote: Phil, I'm not sure what you mean by ... a web version of the content delivery part, to free users from having to install software ..., particularly the latter part. One of the advantages of LiveCode is that you can deliver eLearning content as a stand-alone without the need to load anything. The stand-alone is the software they want to avoid installing. Hence the problem. In the system I maintain, content is developed using a desktop app, which can then convert the desktop training to a complete web deliverable, zip and upload it to a server. Then it tells a server script about the uploaded training, and the server takes it from there. In my experience the decision to go web-based or not is a complex one based on how media rich one wants the content vs. ease of distribution, but nothing to do with having to load something on a users computer. Except in my client's case. Some US government agencies want his training, but often their IT depts will not allow ANYTHING they have not invented or blessed to be installed on an agency computer. And getting them to bless your product requires a Class 2 miracle. So a browser-based, no-plugins-required training course is about the only viable option remaining. It's complex because of the fear of loss of control of the content, the desire to rapidly distribute changes in content (that rarely happens), and the misunderstanding that delivering large and high quality media over the web or an intranet just takes time. Yes. You have clearly been down that road! Phil best, Bob... I am still quite busy adding features and structural changes to a CBT system I wrote in 2003-05. Most recently we are creating a web version of the content delivery part, to free users from having to install software on their computers before taking training. Bob Earp White Rock, British Columbia. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Phil Davis PDS Labs Professional Software Development http://pdslabs.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Object naming conventions
On Oct 7, 2011, at 11:54 AM, Pete wrote: Thanks for the thoughts Bob. For those who have replied, here's the reason behind the question. I'm about to ask for beta testers for an LC tool that greatly speeds up the development of applications that use SQL databases. Part of the tool is a palette of controls that you can drag and drop onto your cards, answer a couple of easy questions and the control will be linked to your database. Right now, I use a naming convention for controls so that the tool's runtime library can recognize controls that are significant to it. My concern is that I'm imposing my naming convention on anyone who wants to make use of the tool. Whether you'd be willing to give up your naming conventions in exchange for the productivity gains you'll get from using the tool - that's the question. If it helps, there was some work on this by the RunRev Interoperability Project at the 'revInterop' Yahoo group: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/revInterop/. I know Richard put a mirror of the document we were working on somewhere, but I can't recall where, so I put it here for download/direct display: http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/ECMI_110.pdf It hasn't been updated in a while, but I know several developers (including myself, of course) that are using (most) of the specification in their own work. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: k...@sonsothunder.com Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New iOS App in Store
What date did you select for when the app should be available? In my experience it almost seems like they don't even start the review until the day you set for availability. It would be interesting to set an available date of tomorrow. On Oct 7, 2011, at 3:22 PM, Randy Hengst wrote: Waiting for Review …. Oct 1st. In Review …. Oct 6 at 11:26 a.m. Processing for Sale …. Oct 6 3:20 p.m. Ready for Sale …. Oct 6 4:30 p.m. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Object naming conventions
Thanks Ken, looks like a very interesting document. Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Ken Ray k...@sonsothunder.com wrote: On Oct 7, 2011, at 11:54 AM, Pete wrote: Thanks for the thoughts Bob. For those who have replied, here's the reason behind the question. I'm about to ask for beta testers for an LC tool that greatly speeds up the development of applications that use SQL databases. Part of the tool is a palette of controls that you can drag and drop onto your cards, answer a couple of easy questions and the control will be linked to your database. Right now, I use a naming convention for controls so that the tool's runtime library can recognize controls that are significant to it. My concern is that I'm imposing my naming convention on anyone who wants to make use of the tool. Whether you'd be willing to give up your naming conventions in exchange for the productivity gains you'll get from using the tool - that's the question. If it helps, there was some work on this by the RunRev Interoperability Project at the 'revInterop' Yahoo group: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/revInterop/. I know Richard put a mirror of the document we were working on somewhere, but I can't recall where, so I put it here for download/direct display: http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/ECMI_110.pdf It hasn't been updated in a while, but I know several developers (including myself, of course) that are using (most) of the specification in their own work. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: k...@sonsothunder.com Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: rev libraries of the late Mark Smith
How about menus? They are really buttons, but suppose you wanted to do something to all your buttons? You would want to exclude menus no doubt. Actually, what really makes prefixing all your objects a good thing is when it comes time to view them in some applications browser. Having all your labels, fields, buttons and menus sort accordingly is a good thing to have, especially on a card with LOTS of objects. Bob On Oct 7, 2011, at 6:36 AM, Matthias Rebbe wrote: Hi, just want to let you know, that i mirrored all the rev libraries the late Mark Smith put online. Just to keep sure they do not get lost. You get the libs at http://www.matthiasrebbe.eu/revstuff/marksmith Regards, Matthias Rebbe ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New iOS App in Store
Thanks for the info., Randy. Just bought a copy. Great job! Fun way to teach. Finger trace works great. (My daughter teaches Kindergarten... she'll love it.) Curious: was it a design decision or a technical constraint that made you choose to design for smaller screen and add the 2X button versus designing for larger screen with a redux button? I haven't finished an app yet myself, but was sort of expecting that LiveCode could adapt itself to the device screen on its own. Thanks again. Tom Bodine -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/New-iOS-App-in-Store-tp3882022p3883739.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Windows Standalone Will Not Save Data to File
Hello everyone, I built a small utility app for my students. It was scripted on a Mac. It has the following handler to allow them to save their work to disk. It works on Mac stand-alones but not Windows. My PC-using students have shown me how it does not save. Is the problem the two forward slashes in the argument to the URL? put “My File” into theFileName put “1,2,3,4,5” into theData if the hilite of button Save of this card is true then ask file Where would you like to save your data backup? with (theFileName -Backup.csv) if it is not empty then put theData into url (file:// it) end if Regards, Gregory ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Windows Standalone Will Not Save Data to File
Hi Gregory, (file:// it) should be (file: it) -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 See what you get with only a small contribution. All our LiveCode downloads are listed at http://qery.us/zr On 8 okt 2011, at 01:47, Gregory Lypny wrote: Hello everyone, I built a small utility app for my students. It was scripted on a Mac. It has the following handler to allow them to save their work to disk. It works on Mac stand-alones but not Windows. My PC-using students have shown me how it does not save. Is the problem the two forward slashes in the argument to the URL? put “My File” into theFileName put “1,2,3,4,5” into theData if the hilite of button Save of this card is true then ask file Where would you like to save your data backup? with (theFileName -Backup.csv) if it is not empty then put theData into url (file:// it) end if Regards, Gregory ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
[UBUNTU] running LiveCode on 11.x
Folks, This may apply to anyone running under linux but I've experienced this only on Ubuntu 11.04 so far. If you're experiencing a problem that everytime you launch LiveCode it asks for authentication again, it is possible that your .runrev folder on your home folder has the wrong permissions or owner. If you execute the installer with root priviledges (so that it can write to /opt) then there is a chance that the .runrev folder owner will also be root:root. You will need to change that to the actual user and group running LiveCode or it will fail to save your activation or your preferences. :-D Linux is Freedom Andre The Oneiric Ocelot Garzia -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [UBUNTU] running LiveCode on 11.x
Andre- I've had that problem with Fedora Core all along. The installer is supposed to elevate its privileges to give the right permissions, but it doesn't. So I change the permission bit on the installer to allow execution, install from a terminal prompt as root for all users *without launching the IDE after installation*: su - cd /home/user/Downloads ./LiveCodeInstaller-4_6_4_gm_1-Linux.x86 exit Now I'm back to my local account and I run the IDE which was installed to /opt, it boots with my license info in hand, and I'm off and running. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Object Naming Conventions
Jacque- Friday, October 7, 2011, 10:39:26 AM, you wrote: for me it makes my scripts harder to read. Well, that's the purpose of a scripting convention. If what you're doing makes it easier for you to read your scripts then you're doing things the right way. We're all different. I really doubt any two of us codes the same way. :) I don't even code the same way twice. I'm always refactoring things as I learn more or come across clever hacks to speed things up or make my code more readable or something. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [UBUNTU] running LiveCode on 11.x
Mark, I did the same thing for Fedora 15 but doing that on my new Ubuntu installation made the .runrev folder be owned by root for some weird reason, I had to revert it back to my user and group. I did not launched the app after installation. Now it works but it is the little things that the IDE should check, like: can I write my preferences file? Cheers andre On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Andre- I've had that problem with Fedora Core all along. The installer is supposed to elevate its privileges to give the right permissions, but it doesn't. So I change the permission bit on the installer to allow execution, install from a terminal prompt as root for all users *without launching the IDE after installation*: su - cd /home/user/Downloads ./LiveCodeInstaller-4_6_4_gm_1-Linux.x86 exit Now I'm back to my local account and I run the IDE which was installed to /opt, it boots with my license info in hand, and I'm off and running. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Object naming conventions
That sounds like a great tool. I would love to help beta test it. Mike Sent from my iPad On Oct 7, 2011, at 12:54 PM, Pete p...@mollysrevenge.com wrote: Thanks for the thoughts Bob. For those who have replied, here's the reason behind the question. I'm about to ask for beta testers for an LC tool that greatly speeds up the development of applications that use SQL databases. Part of the tool is a palette of controls that you can drag and drop onto your cards, answer a couple of easy questions and the control will be linked to your database. Right now, I use a naming convention for controls so that the tool's runtime library can recognize controls that are significant to it. My concern is that I'm imposing my naming convention on anyone who wants to make use of the tool. Whether you'd be willing to give up your naming conventions in exchange for the productivity gains you'll get from using the tool - that's the question. I'm considering providing an alternative by using a custom property of the control to store the info I need and let people name the controls according to their own conventions. But that is a fair amount of coding and retesting to be done so I thought I would try to gauge the sentiment on naming conventions before starting down that path. Hopefully, that doesn't break any forum rules. Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Bob Earp rje...@hotmail.com wrote: Pete, It's a great question, but the last time this was asked on the list I think the discussion went on for three lifetimes (in use-livecode list years) on what exactly should be the standard to use. It seems there's more and different naming conventions in the world than Tim Hortons has served cups of coffee, so if you are trying to automate layout based on what others use you're likely to discover the meaning of life, the universe and everything before completing half of it ;-) Richard Gaskin's article is a great start, and I think that most of us that have coded for a number of years have done something similar. Personally I think there are really only three things one needs to follow; 1. Don't worry about what others do, just name everything in a format that really makes sense to you and your team today, and in the future. 2. Keep the names as short and uncomplicated as possible. 3. Write down what your naming convention standards are so that others can refer to it, and check those standards with your team on a regular basis to make sure it continues to work for them. Naming is only a way of better understanding what somebody was trying to do in their script, and that somebody is likely you in the future !! So, don't forget comments which are as important but generally considered as kindergarden practice by self proclaimed expert scripters ;-) best, Bob... From: Pete p...@mollysrevenge.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Subject: Object Naming Conventions Message-ID: cabx6j9mopo_9zn3+5usefnp-wyt8w2xfzu1lavp1mdxhuyb...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I vaguely remember a thread on this topic a while back. I'm interested in what naming conventions people have for stacks/cards/controls, if any. This is in connection with a project I'm working on to automate laying out controls on a card. I'm currently using a naming convention of my own but I'd like to provide a way for other conventions to be used, in particular the use of prefix or suffix characters in names of different types of objects. Any input is most welcome. Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com Bob Earp White Rock, British Columbia. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New iOS App in Store
That's a good question… I've always just left it at the default… whatever that is. I'll pay attention next time. On Oct 7, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: What date did you select for when the app should be available? In my experience it almost seems like they don't even start the review until the day you set for availability. It would be interesting to set an available date of tomorrow. On Oct 7, 2011, at 3:22 PM, Randy Hengst wrote: Waiting for Review …. Oct 1st. In Review …. Oct 6 at 11:26 a.m. Processing for Sale …. Oct 6 3:20 p.m. Ready for Sale …. Oct 6 4:30 p.m. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New iOS App in Store
Tom, I made this app using the iPod screen size simply because I already had the photos that size from another project… that way I needed less time to prepare the photos. I have some ideas for how I could expand the for the iPad. I'll need to re-do the photos for the bigger size. The 2x option is automatic on iPad when displaying an iPod-sized app. So, no coding involved with that at all. LiveCode won't automatically adjust for the iPad screen size, but you can create an app that checks the device and then adjusts through scaling that you include in the scipts or by using cards you set up for both the iPad or iPod sizes. be well, randy - On Oct 7, 2011, at 4:14 PM, tbodine wrote: Thanks for the info., Randy. Just bought a copy. Great job! Fun way to teach. Finger trace works great. (My daughter teaches Kindergarten... she'll love it.) Curious: was it a design decision or a technical constraint that made you choose to design for smaller screen and add the 2X button versus designing for larger screen with a redux button? I haven't finished an app yet myself, but was sort of expecting that LiveCode could adapt itself to the device screen on its own. Thanks again. Tom Bodine -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/New-iOS-App-in-Store-tp3882022p3883739.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
UIWebView control flash
I'm setting up a browser control in a preopencard handler. Normally preopencard doesn't display anything while it runs, but even if I surround the handler with lock/unlock commands, the card itself is briefly visible before the control appears. That means the user sees the underlying card for a moment before the full-screen browser content appears. Is there a trick to getting it to draw before the card is visible? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: UIWebView control flash
Hi Jacque, You could try to create the browser object before navigating cards. I don't know if this will actually work, but i did notice that UI controls stay on screen if they are not deleted the propert way. Another possibility is to show a card with a circular progress indicator in the middle and show the browser object on top of it. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 See what you get with only a small contribution. All our LiveCode downloads are listed at http://qery.us/zr On 8 okt 2011, at 03:54, J. Landman Gay wrote: I'm setting up a browser control in a preopencard handler. Normally preopencard doesn't display anything while it runs, but even if I surround the handler with lock/unlock commands, the card itself is briefly visible before the control appears. That means the user sees the underlying card for a moment before the full-screen browser content appears. Is there a trick to getting it to draw before the card is visible? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [UBUNTU] running LiveCode on 11.x
Andre- Friday, October 7, 2011, 6:06:26 PM, you wrote: I did the same thing for Fedora 15 but doing that on my new Ubuntu BTW... I absolutely hate the new Gnome3 in FC15. I can't believe anybody thought this was a good idea. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
iOS and Mac mini and App Store
I haev a buyer for one of my Mac mini computers running Leopard. The buyer wants to build iPad apps with Livecode, but did not know about the developer requirements. I told him I would get the answers to How much is the Apple developer cost How long does it take to become one (hours, days)? Can you run the apps on your own iPad without the Apple Store approval? Can you transfer your beta app to another users device ? Can you transfer your beta app to another users simulator ? His goal is to run a simple beta app on his bosses iPad next Wed. Thanks for helping me outline the process. Jim Ault ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Reading PDFs in LC (again)
Graham, I'm puzzled why you're using ImageMagick when even with ImageMagick you still need to install GhostScript. Why not only install GhostScript and run it from the command line (or process)? It can directly convert PDF's to PNG, BMP, JPG, etc.. which can then be imported into LC. On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Graham Samuel livf...@mac.com wrote: Folks, I have been reading all the responses I got on this issue that appeared under a number of different subject headings in the last couple of weeks. I thought people might be interested in my current position. First, my intention was to read PDFs as images (bitmaps) into an LC-authored app written to be run under Windows. This is clearly quite a restricted way of using PDFs, since they can contain readable text and much else which I don't currently care about. However, even with these restrictions it is not an easy thing to code a reader for PDFs entirely in LiveCode, so some third-party component appears to be needed. Second, I also had another need for input of bitmaps, which was to read TIFF files. In my original posts I didn't explain this as I thought it would complicate the discussion. Sadly this is another format that LC doesn't help us with. Third, I needed generous licensing terms, so that the additional component(s) to accomplish the input would be either free or else licensed on a pay-once basis, without per-user charges imposed on the end user, much like LC itself. Fourth (and last), I am writing an app for busy non-technical people which means among other things that any installation process should be simple, and certainly without any kind of extended interaction about options, licensing terms etc. demanded of the user. I have considered various approaches, with ImageMagick being the technical front runner (it's 'free' - kind of - and fulfils my technical requirements). I was scared of ImageMagick both because of the Windows-specific technical warnings on the download site and because of the license terms. The good news is that people on this list have persuaded me that I should not be scared. There is still some question over the license terms, since the one commercial supplier of the main underlying component, GhostScript (Artifex), insists that: If your application (including its source code) is not licensed to the public under the GNU GPL, you are not authorized to ship GPL Ghostscript or GPL MuPDF with your application under the terms of the GNU GPL if any one of the following is true: your application contains a copy of some or all of GPL Ghostscript or MuPDF; your application is derived from, is based on, or constitutes a revision of some or all of GPL Ghostscript or MuPDF; your application includes one or more functions that use some or all of GPL Ghostscript or MuPDF. These criteria apply to your application as a whole. Even if only one section of your application satisfies one of these criteria, you are not authorized to ship GPL Ghostscript or GPL MuPDF with your application unless your application, including all of its source code, is licensed to the public under the GNU GPL. If your application (including its source code) is NOT licensed to the public under the GNU GPL and you intend to distribute Ghostscript or MuPDF to a third party for use with and usable by your application, you MUST first obtain a commercial license from Artifex. Various people on the list have suggested that there are workarounds that render this statement untrue, and since there appear to be real-world examples of commercial products that do use GhostScript without a commercial license, I am going to adopt the approach suggested, hopefully maintaining the letter and spirit of the GPL. OK, the next thing is to try it - probably not using 'shell' (heeding Monte Goulding's warning and adopting his solution, which sadly I only half understand). I have command-line fear, but I guess I'll get over it (when I started programming computers, we didn't even have command lines - sounds like a Monty Python sketch, but true. The machines were not actually steam powered). I'll report back if I get to a point where my app (including its install process) appears viable. Graham ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Chipp Walters CEO, Shafer Walters Group, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Object naming conventions
Thanks Mike, I'll be in touch in the next couple of weeks. Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Mike Felker ad...@mfelkerco.com wrote: That sounds like a great tool. I would love to help beta test it. Mike Sent from my iPad On Oct 7, 2011, at 12:54 PM, Pete p...@mollysrevenge.com wrote: Thanks for the thoughts Bob. For those who have replied, here's the reason behind the question. I'm about to ask for beta testers for an LC tool that greatly speeds up the development of applications that use SQL databases. Part of the tool is a palette of controls that you can drag and drop onto your cards, answer a couple of easy questions and the control will be linked to your database. Right now, I use a naming convention for controls so that the tool's runtime library can recognize controls that are significant to it. My concern is that I'm imposing my naming convention on anyone who wants to make use of the tool. Whether you'd be willing to give up your naming conventions in exchange for the productivity gains you'll get from using the tool - that's the question. I'm considering providing an alternative by using a custom property of the control to store the info I need and let people name the controls according to their own conventions. But that is a fair amount of coding and retesting to be done so I thought I would try to gauge the sentiment on naming conventions before starting down that path. Hopefully, that doesn't break any forum rules. Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Bob Earp rje...@hotmail.com wrote: Pete, It's a great question, but the last time this was asked on the list I think the discussion went on for three lifetimes (in use-livecode list years) on what exactly should be the standard to use. It seems there's more and different naming conventions in the world than Tim Hortons has served cups of coffee, so if you are trying to automate layout based on what others use you're likely to discover the meaning of life, the universe and everything before completing half of it ;-) Richard Gaskin's article is a great start, and I think that most of us that have coded for a number of years have done something similar. Personally I think there are really only three things one needs to follow; 1. Don't worry about what others do, just name everything in a format that really makes sense to you and your team today, and in the future. 2. Keep the names as short and uncomplicated as possible. 3. Write down what your naming convention standards are so that others can refer to it, and check those standards with your team on a regular basis to make sure it continues to work for them. Naming is only a way of better understanding what somebody was trying to do in their script, and that somebody is likely you in the future !! So, don't forget comments which are as important but generally considered as kindergarden practice by self proclaimed expert scripters ;-) best, Bob... From: Pete p...@mollysrevenge.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Subject: Object Naming Conventions Message-ID: cabx6j9mopo_9zn3+5usefnp-wyt8w2xfzu1lavp1mdxhuyb...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I vaguely remember a thread on this topic a while back. I'm interested in what naming conventions people have for stacks/cards/controls, if any. This is in connection with a project I'm working on to automate laying out controls on a card. I'm currently using a naming convention of my own but I'd like to provide a way for other conventions to be used, in particular the use of prefix or suffix characters in names of different types of objects. Any input is most welcome. Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com Bob Earp White Rock, British Columbia. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your
Re: iOS and Mac mini and App Store
What processor does the Mac mini have? It would want to be Intel, and you would need it to update to Snow Leopard. It's $99 a year to be an iOS developer. Don't know how long it takes these days, but there is a chance it could be done before Wednesday. When I signed up it took four months, but it's quicker now I'm sure. Yes you can run apps you make, on up to 100 devices, whether those are yours or your boss's. I don't think the app would work in someone else simulator, but I may be wrong. He could always make a standalone application to show how it's progressing. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: iOS and Mac mini and App Store
On Oct 8, 2011, at 12:18 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: What processor does the Mac mini have? It would want to be Intel, and you would need it to update to Snow Leopard. It's $99 a year to be an iOS developer. Don't know how long it takes these days, but there is a chance it could be done before Wednesday. When I signed up it took four months, but it's quicker now I'm sure. Yes you can run apps you make, on up to 100 devices, whether those are yours or your boss's. I don't think the app would work in someone else simulator, but I may be wrong. He could always make a standalone application to show how it's progressing. Thanks for the quick reply. I can update the Intel to Snow ( although the Rev site says 10.5.8 or 10.6 will work ) I did not realize that the standalone would run on the iPad before you got the Apple developer approval. The gestures are part of the beta test this next week and would not work on a desktop, of course. He is a young guy who is tired of C+ and wants to try LC on a low- cost Mac. Hope all is going well now that Autumn is on the way :-) Thanks for the help. Jim Ault ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
