Paste Text Into revBrowser Field?
Anyone know if this is possible? Paste text from the clipboard into a revBrowser form field? Currently, it only seems possible to cut text from a field -- how can one paste text? Thanks Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Location of iOS 5.0 SDK
Come on in, the waters fine. -- Tom McGrath III http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net On Apr 3, 2012, at 1:01 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 4/2/12 11:14 PM, Mark Smith wrote: Jacque, I would say go for it. The current successful recipe, based on my limited experience, appears to be snip I've been keeping notes, so I think I've got the recipe down. I just don't want Lion. But everyone seems to have updated successfully so I will do it too. I was going to do it today but I didn't, and now it's getting late, so I'll...do it tomorrow. Right. Tomorrow. (Everybody sing: Tomorrow! Tomorrow! I'll do it, tomorrow!) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT: mails bouncing back?
Pete wrote: I got caught in this web a couple of years back (I think it was with GoDaddy). Here's the problem I have with the blacklist sites. Their blanket blackballing of servers means that the 99% of users who are using it for genuine, non-spam emails get dumped on for the sins of the 1%. Personally, I sgtrongly object to having my genuine emails blocked in this fashion. It's illegal to tamper with the US Mail and it should be illegal to block the delivery of genuine email as well. I've had domains caught up with sloppy blacklisting schemes myself. It's not a problem with RunRev, or their host, but with the lazy nature of a few blacklisting systems. rant Worse, the sloppiest blacklisters are also the most difficult to try to reason with once your machine falls onto their list. The arrogance I encountered dealing with them was beyond the most rude behavior I've seen in any other context. Living as they do in a world of false assumptions, they (at least at the time I tried to deal with them) seem to regard all request as spammers trying to get a free pass in their system, completely oblivious to the most patient and reasoned explanations of their error. They seem to presume that such an inherently faulty method is somehow beyond the ability to ever result in a false-positive, in spite of countless articles across the web explaining how that's the case, indulging themselves in the fantasy of playing some sort of romantic vigilante role, protecting the world from evildoers even if it means killing thousands of legitimate emails along the way. If you're complaining you must be a spammer! Hey, it's just collateral damage in the noble fight against spam! You gotta be willing to break a few eggs if you want to make an omelette! Freedom isn't free! Ignorance is strength! They're welcome to prove me wrong at any time: 1. Stop being rude to innocent people trapped by the broken system 2. Fix the broken system /rant -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Location of iOS 5.0 SDK
Jacque, After you update to Lion, you can install Parallels 7 and then build a Snow Leopard VM. This is what I do on my personal Mac Pro (I also have Leopard and Tiger, as well as multiple Windows and Linux versions). Another option would be to buy a firewire external HD and install Lion onto that and then dual boot your system (this is what I do with two of our iMacs. Tim On Apr 2, 2012, at 10:01 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 4/2/12 11:14 PM, Mark Smith wrote: Jacque, I would say go for it. The current successful recipe, based on my limited experience, appears to be snip I've been keeping notes, so I think I've got the recipe down. I just don't want Lion. But everyone seems to have updated successfully so I will do it too. I was going to do it today but I didn't, and now it's getting late, so I'll...do it tomorrow. Right. Tomorrow. (Everybody sing: Tomorrow! Tomorrow! I'll do it, tomorrow!) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: near feature parity
Bernard Devlin wrote: I gave up on LiveCode on Linux some years ago. Last week I downloaded and installed one of the v5.x installers from my LiveCode account, and installed it on Mint Linux. As soon as I started LiveCode, it hung. Luckily, as it started, the LiveCode window was smaller than the monitor - as even when I started the task killer to kill it, the task killer could not get access to any portion of the screen in which the LiveCode window was located. If I'd been able to get LiveCode to work, I was prepared to pay for Linux deployment. As I couldn't, I saved myself some money (for about the 3rd or 4th year running). To my recollection, I've had trouble with LiveCode on Mint, OpenSuse and CentOS - 3 of the top 7 distros on distrowatch.org. Have you files RQCC reports on those? If so, could you please share the URLs so I can track those? If you may be willing to give it another go, feel free to contact me offlist to try to resolve this. I've had very good luck on Ubuntu, and Mark Weider seems to do well with LC on Fedora, so while the feature- and price-parity is a bit wonky what's there should be workable. Moreover, if there's a problem with the LC engine from your system's configuration it's essential that I know that as I continue to expand my Linux deployments, since there's a chance that sooner or later one of my apps may be affected by such difficulties with a customer. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
LiveCode User Group: April 5, Pasadena
The first Thursday of each month the SoCal LiveCode User Group meets at Burger Continental in Pasadena at 7 PM - details here: http://forums.runrev.com/viewtopic.php?f=50t=11291 Bring your questions, cool algos or projects you've been working on, and an appetite for BC's excellent burgers and Middle Eastern food. :) See ya' there - -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT: mails bouncing back?
On Apr 3, 2012, at 7:19 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: I've had domains caught up with sloppy blacklisting schemes myself. It's not a problem with RunRev, or their host, but with the lazy nature of a few blacklisting systems. Actually, in this case, it is their host. GoDaddy needs to tighten up their secureserver.net environment to eliminate the spamming that occurs. Their servers are high on the list of even the most legitimate blacklist maintainers (Barracuda, for instance). This was one of the driving forces behind our moving to a VPS instead of using their shared plans. Costs extra, but no issues of this type (and they still maintain the HW). Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: near feature parity
I've been doing some work with LC in Ubuntu, with mixed results. The most annoying things to me are: 1) scroll bars that overlap the text field they control, with an opaque thumb and transparent guide, making the right side unreadable 2) Fonts don't seem to be rendered the same way, making layouts a pain 3) Script editor oddities - things like the menus don't match up with where I'm clicking 4) Random crashes, forcing me to save frequently. The worst part is 5) No response to bug reports from the team. It's better than nothing, and it's great that I can develop and deploy LC on all major desktop and mobile platforms, but it can be a pain. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: near feature parity
On 04/02/2012 06:15 AM, Bernard Devlin wrote: I gave up on LiveCode on Linux some years ago. Last week I downloaded and installed one of the v5.x installers from my LiveCode account, and installed it on Mint Linux. As soon as I started LiveCode, it hung. Luckily, as it started, the LiveCode window was smaller than the monitor - as even when I started the task killer to kill it, the task killer could not get access to any portion of the screen in which the LiveCode window was located. If I'd been able to get LiveCode to work, I was prepared to pay for Linux deployment. As I couldn't, I saved myself some money (for about the 3rd or 4th year running). To my recollection, I've had trouble with LiveCode on Mint, OpenSuse and CentOS - 3 of the top 7 distros on distrowatch.org. I can't even recollect if I ever got it to work satisfactorily on Debian or Ubuntu - I'm sure I tried. I think I might have it installed on an Ubuntu laptop, so when I get back, I'll have a look (just to satisfy my own belief that it was a cause worth giving up on). The money I saved on paying for only the minimum that I need from Runrev bought me a new Macbook Air (a device I love, so I'm not complaining -- even though I hate the direction in which Apple is going). Bernard FWIW, I never had any trouble running Livecode under Mint 9 and 10, both 64 bit with compatibility libs installed, and 32 bit native, and have run it without any problems under openSUSE 11.4 and, currently, 12.1, 64 bit with 32 bit libs installed. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: getProp syntax query
Graham Samuel wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 Mark Schonewille wrote: ... You can use only one index, i.e. the setProp/getProp handlers are one-dimensional. ... Mark, thanks for that. There is absolutely nothing of this in the LC Dictionary AFAICS, although after a search I realised that there is a very hard to read (IMHO) description on section 7.10 of the User Guide. I think at the very least a note should be added to the Dictionary entry, so I have submitted one, but I would be very happy if someone such as yourself corrects it. Or you could do that yourself, with the Comments feature. Probably a useful note to add until that Dict entry gets enhanced. In fact, it would be great to submit an RQCC request for this Dict issue, so it will be on RunRev's radar. At the heart of this is a core difference between how arrays and custom props are handled. They seem similar but have diverged in recent years: In the olden days, both LiveCode's associative arrays and the custom properties it allows in objects were parallel: they were one dimensional, and you could move data between them easily: put the customProperties of tObj into tMyArray set the customProperties of tObj to tMyArray When arrays became multi-dimensional, that made it difficult to use the same syntax to accomplish similar goals, so they created a workaround to support that which also gave rise to two new functions, arrayEncode and arrayDecode. ArrayEncode translates an array from the memory-specific hash table that drives it into a flat form that can be saved to disk. ArrayDecode translates that flattened form back into an array in memory. But since memory-mapped hash tables can't be used from disk, the format of data returned from arrayEncode is not easily traversed, requiring considerable clock cycles to translate back into an array when run though arrayDecode. In essence, what those functions do is somewhat similar to what you'd have to do if you wanted to flatten array data in a script, walking through each element and writing it out into a linear format that retains key-value association, nesting, etc. When you save an array to a custom prop, from what I'm seeing in terms of performance it seems that the array data is passed through something very similar to the internal routine used for arrayEncode, allowing that binary data to be storable, but unfortunately not in a form that's easily traversed. And since those can't be traversed using the same rapid methods that memory-based arrays use, we have no ability to use multi-dimensional array syntax to address them as properties like we do as arrays. For the long term I've submitted a request to see if we can come up with a b-tree storage method which might allow us to use the same syntax for both arrays and nested props: Make arrays and customProperties behave the same http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6912 In the meantime, to access array data stored in a custom prop requires two steps, first to extract the array and then to access its nested elements: put the MyPropArray of tObj into tSomeArray put tSomeArray[1][2] into tSomeValue Note that performance of nested arrays as props is roughly on par with running data that had been saved with arrayEncode through the arrayEncode function, not nearly as fast as using a true array in a variable. So for performance-critical uses it may be helpful to extract the array early on and use it from a global, storing it back only when needed. This is a good opportunity to share a bit of geeky fun news with you folks: Kevin Miller and Ben Beaumont have generously asked Mark Waddingham to take a moment away from his very busy schedule to provide a description of the format of the data we get from arrayEncode. I had requested this because I have a few cases where I need to be able to extract a specific data element from an array stored on disk, without the overhead of reading the entire file and running it through arrayDecode. This is for a CGI where every millisecond counts, and some of the arrays I'm working with have hundreds of thousands of nested keys. To justify the time required for Mark to do this, we made a deal: Mark would provide a sparse description only sufficient to get me started so he could get back to more critical tasks, provided I take that info and flesh it out into an article for LiveCode Journal which explains the format in detail and provides a working example of how to use it. Mark came through on his end of the bargain wonderfully, providing a sample function that worked on the first level of array keys, which was enough for me to expand it to be able extract the data from any key regardless of depth. The article explaining it all is in progress now and close to done. I expect to be able to post it to LiveCode Journal by Saturday. Here's a tantalizing tidbit to whet your appetite: The sample stack I wrote for this
Re: near feature parity
Mike Kerner wrote: I've been doing some work with LC in Ubuntu, with mixed results. The most annoying things to me are: 1) scroll bars that overlap the text field they control, with an opaque thumb and transparent guide, making the right side unreadable 2) Fonts don't seem to be rendered the same way, making layouts a pain 3) Script editor oddities - things like the menus don't match up with where I'm clicking 4) Random crashes, forcing me to save frequently. The worst part is 5) No response to bug reports from the team. With the pressure they have to refine the mobile feature set, don't be surprised if Linux-specific RQCC issue take a bit to show status change. It's also worth noting that the RQCC is in practice only a feeder for the tracking system they use internally, so in most cases -- regardless of affected platform -- you may not see any change there until an issue is resolved. For issues I've reported I often see them sit apparently untended, but then when a new release comes out batches of them get marked off as Fixed all at once. Would you mind posting the RQCC #s here? I track Linux issues since they affect an ever-greater portion of my work. Thanks - -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Location of iOS 5.0 SDK
I have Parallels 6 for lots of Windows, but I thought it will only let me install OS X servers on a VM, not desktops. I put OS X desktops on a rash of partitions on a firewire drive. Does Parallels 7 and Lion get around any technical and license limitations? Dar On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:24 AM, Tim Jones wrote: Jacque, After you update to Lion, you can install Parallels 7 and then build a Snow Leopard VM. This is what I do on my personal Mac Pro (I also have Leopard and Tiger, as well as multiple Windows and Linux versions). Another option would be to buy a firewire external HD and install Lion onto that and then dual boot your system (this is what I do with two of our iMacs. Tim On Apr 2, 2012, at 10:01 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 4/2/12 11:14 PM, Mark Smith wrote: Jacque, I would say go for it. The current successful recipe, based on my limited experience, appears to be snip I've been keeping notes, so I think I've got the recipe down. I just don't want Lion. But everyone seems to have updated successfully so I will do it too. I was going to do it today but I didn't, and now it's getting late, so I'll...do it tomorrow. Right. Tomorrow. (Everybody sing: Tomorrow! Tomorrow! I'll do it, tomorrow!) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: AW: what to put into the standalone signature?
Tiemo, Just a note to update. Since I wrote this article, Apple has essentially deprecated creator codes, starting with OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard). LiveCode still supports them, but as Richmond noted, an OS X app will work just fine without one. Devin On Apr 2, 2012, at 4:02 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Hi Guglielmo, thank you for the informative link Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Guglielmo Braguglia Gesendet: Montag, 2. April 2012 11:40 An: How to use LiveCode Betreff: Re: AW: what to put into the standalone signature? Hi Tiemo, maybe this page help to understand the 'signature' codes : http://revolution.byu.edu/helps/file-creatorcodes.php :-) Guglielmo Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LiveCode User Group: April 5, Pasadena
Craig, should we NYC LiveCode meetups? The Olde Town miss us! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Location of iOS 5.0 SDK
On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:28 AM, Dar Scott wrote: I have Parallels 6 for lots of Windows, but I thought it will only let me install OS X servers on a VM, not desktops. I put OS X desktops on a rash of partitions on a firewire drive. Does Parallels 7 and Lion get around any technical and license limitations? Parallels 7 let's me install client versions… the only limit is that there are no Parallels Tools for Tiger, so you only get 1024x768 display. You can get around the server limitation in 6. Check the archives at afp548.com for install OS X client in Parallels. Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT: mails bouncing back?
Tim Jones wrote: On Apr 3, 2012, at 7:19 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: I've had domains caught up with sloppy blacklisting schemes myself. It's not a problem with RunRev, or their host, but with the lazy nature of a few blacklisting systems. Actually, in this case, it is their host. GoDaddy needs to tighten up their secureserver.net environment to eliminate the spamming that occurs. Their servers are high on the list of even the most legitimate blacklist maintainers (Barracuda, for instance). I'm no fan of GoDaddy so it wouldn't surprise me if they've been willing to turn a blind eye to illegal activity to maintain that income until they're absolutely forced to do the right thing. They wouldn't be alone on this: a few years ago it was well known that some 30% of global spam was originating from three regions in Florida, but neither the feds nor the downstream providers did anything to enforce the law. Ultimately a few upstream providers got tired of carrying all that wasteful traffic and blocked it all in the backbone themselves, only after which the feds finally decided to show up for work and make an arrest. The local hosts never explained why they'd never taken care of it themselves, and sadly the reprieve was short-lived as that traffic eventually moved to the Ukraine, where it flourishes in an apparently lawless environment today. But back on topic: Blocking entire IP ranges is not a responsible way to blacklist, since it can - an inevitably does - affect legitimate users. It's simply lazy, a ham-fisted scorched-earth way to solve a problem that requires more surgical methods. In fact, it seems On-Rev.com may be a very good example of how this gets out of hand so easily, since AFAIK their servers aren't on GoDaddy at all, but on SoftLayer: http://on-rev.com/hosting/our-data-center/ And even if some accounts were host by GoDaddy, unless those specific servers are used for illegal activity there's no excuse for any responsible blacklisting service to block them. Spam is indeed a serious problem, but when attempts to stop it shut down legitimate businesses the cure is every bit as bad as the problem itself, arguably worse. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LiveCode User Group: April 5, Pasadena
Colin Holgate wrote: Craig, should we NYC LiveCode meetups? The Olde Town miss us! I would strongly encourage any and all regional get-togethers. They've been a lot of fun for us here in SoCal, and I've learned a lot from them and made a few new friends along the way. You may want to post a note in this section of the forums Heather added to encourage this sort of thing: User Groups and Gatherings http://forums.runrev.com/viewforum.php?f=30 -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT: mails bouncing back?
On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:40 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Blocking entire IP ranges is not a responsible way to blacklist, since it can - an inevitably does - affect legitimate users. It's simply lazy, a ham-fisted scorched-earth way to solve a problem that requires more surgical methods. In fact, it seems On-Rev.com may be a very good example of how this gets out of hand so easily, since AFAIK their servers aren't on GoDaddy at all, but on SoftLayer: http://on-rev.com/hosting/our-data-center/ And even if some accounts were host by GoDaddy, unless those specific servers are used for illegal activity there's no excuse for any responsible blacklisting service to block them. In the case of secureserver.net, the blacklists don't block on the IP in this case, but on the domain. That's why you don't have issues with your OnRev site, but only with mail sent FROM the site. The idea is to cause enough pain for GoDaddy to get something done. I don't like it or agree with it, but I can see the logic… As for GoDaddy otherwise, we've had a very successful run with them for over 5 years since we moved to the VPS structure. It's great to be in complete control of our server with none of the maintenance headaches. We even run a BRU Server client on the VPS and backup everything as part of our normal, daily corporate backups. Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT: mails bouncing back?
What Richard said! However, it's ironic that I became aware of Livecode through one of these blacklistsing incidents. I was a memebre of a forum for one of the blacklisting sites and Heather put a post on there becaue the RunRev serevers were blacklisted there too. We exchanged emails about the problem, I noticed the product and bought it. So sometimes, there really are silver linings! Pete On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote: Tim Jones wrote: On Apr 3, 2012, at 7:19 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: I've had domains caught up with sloppy blacklisting schemes myself. It's not a problem with RunRev, or their host, but with the lazy nature of a few blacklisting systems. Actually, in this case, it is their host. GoDaddy needs to tighten up their secureserver.net environment to eliminate the spamming that occurs. Their servers are high on the list of even the most legitimate blacklist maintainers (Barracuda, for instance). I'm no fan of GoDaddy so it wouldn't surprise me if they've been willing to turn a blind eye to illegal activity to maintain that income until they're absolutely forced to do the right thing. They wouldn't be alone on this: a few years ago it was well known that some 30% of global spam was originating from three regions in Florida, but neither the feds nor the downstream providers did anything to enforce the law. Ultimately a few upstream providers got tired of carrying all that wasteful traffic and blocked it all in the backbone themselves, only after which the feds finally decided to show up for work and make an arrest. The local hosts never explained why they'd never taken care of it themselves, and sadly the reprieve was short-lived as that traffic eventually moved to the Ukraine, where it flourishes in an apparently lawless environment today. But back on topic: Blocking entire IP ranges is not a responsible way to blacklist, since it can - an inevitably does - affect legitimate users. It's simply lazy, a ham-fisted scorched-earth way to solve a problem that requires more surgical methods. In fact, it seems On-Rev.com may be a very good example of how this gets out of hand so easily, since AFAIK their servers aren't on GoDaddy at all, but on SoftLayer: http://on-rev.com/hosting/**our-data-center/http://on-rev.com/hosting/our-data-center/ And even if some accounts were host by GoDaddy, unless those specific servers are used for illegal activity there's no excuse for any responsible blacklisting service to block them. Spam is indeed a serious problem, but when attempts to stop it shut down legitimate businesses the cure is every bit as bad as the problem itself, arguably worse. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/**blog.irvhttp://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Location of iOS 5.0 SDK
On 4/3/12 9:24 AM, Tim Jones wrote: Jacque, After you update to Lion, you can install Parallels 7 and then build a Snow Leopard VM. This is what I do on my personal Mac Pro (I also have Leopard and Tiger, as well as multiple Windows and Linux versions). I'm going to keep Snow Leopard on my old MacBook. I already have Parallels and I hadn't thought of that approach, but it's a good idea and I may do that as well. Another option would be to buy a firewire external HD and install Lion onto that and then dual boot your system (this is what I do with two of our iMacs. Last week I went through an amazing number of hoops to do that and made a partition on an external drive intending to dual-boot. But it occured to me that I'd need to reset Time Machine, duplicate all my settings, etc. and in the long run I decided not to. I'm going to push the button today. Really. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LiveCode User Group: April 5, Pasadena
Colin. I would be glad to do this again with you. Are there enough people around to make it happen? Kate is still here. Wasn't there a map that showed the locations of forum or list members? Craig -Original Message- From: Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Tue, Apr 3, 2012 11:37 am Subject: Re: LiveCode User Group: April 5, Pasadena Craig, should we NYC LiveCode meetups? The Olde Town miss us! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LiveCode User Group: April 5, Pasadena
Richard. Colin and I used to run the HC user group in NYC back in the pleistocene. He thinks we might start an LC group. How many people show up for yours, on average? Craig -Original Message- From: Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Tue, Apr 3, 2012 10:31 am Subject: LiveCode User Group: April 5, Pasadena The first Thursday of each month the SoCal LiveCode User Group meets at Burger Continental in Pasadena at 7 PM - details here: http://forums.runrev.com/viewtopic.php?f=50t=11291 Bring your questions, cool algos or projects you've been working on, and an appetite for BC's excellent burgers and Middle Eastern food. :) See ya' there - -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LiveCode User Group: April 5, Pasadena
dunbarx wrote: Colin and I used to run the HC user group in NYC back in the pleistocene. He thinks we might start an LC group. How many people show up for yours, on average? In the olden days we had less frequent meetings in a more central location which usually turned up between 8 and 12 people. But those were hard to organize and the group went into a haitus for a while, and to get back on track we now have more regular monthly meetings in a location that's easy for regulars to get to but doesn't have the freeway access so needed in LA LA land. So now we get between 6 and 8, sometimes more, and while it's a smaller group it also lends itself very well to good discussion. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: near feature parity
Warren- Tuesday, April 3, 2012, 7:58:54 AM, you wrote: FWIW, I never had any trouble running Livecode under Mint 9 and 10, both 64 bit with compatibility libs installed, and 32 bit native, and have run it without any problems under openSUSE 11.4 and, currently, 12.1, 64 bit with 32 bit libs installed. (taking the middle road here) I had a *lot* of trouble running the linux build in the past, but it settled down with recent builds, got faster and more responsive and I now use it every day. Still would be nice to have feature parity and not cost *more* than the other platforms. That's just insulting. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: near feature parity
Mike- Tuesday, April 3, 2012, 7:31:37 AM, you wrote: The worst part is 5) No response to bug reports from the team. I almost *always* get responses to bug reports. They may not get acted on right away (or ever), but at least I know that someone has noticed and one of confirmed, couldn't reproduce, or needs more info. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: near feature parity
I have had nothing but 2 small grunts with my experience with Livecode 4.5 on Ubuntu, ZevenOS, Mint and various other Debian derivatives. 1. The 'hole' created by Livecode's dependency on Quicktime. 2. Characters in a Unicode-enabled textfield aren't visible (this is quite a big grunt in my case). I should also point out that I have been making and running standalones using version 2.2.1 which was given away free by Novell in my EFL school for some 7 years with not a single glitch. All of those standalones are deployed on Pentium 4's currently running Ubuntu 11.04, and were, in the past, deployed on Pentium 3's running Ubuntu 5.10. Quite a few of these programs have leveraged MP3 files stored in a designated folder in the Home directory using explicit paths. I have created some groovy effects using animated GIF images. Standalones created in the new (as opposed to the new-new, i.e. post 5.5) format using LC 4.5 won't run on boxes running Ubuntu 5.10; in cases where I needed to run standalones on machines running Ubuntu 8.04 developed using LC 4.5 I have had to save the source stacks in 'legacy' format and build from them with RR 2.2.1. However, all my standalones have been deployed for a reason which Runtime Revolution (the company) are not very good at addressing: educational content delivery and reinforcement; so, as to reaching out onto the internet, communicating with a server, and so on, I really cannot say anything. Certainly, as far as I have used LC in the context of my EFL school I have nothing but the highest praise. My main grunt is with my desire to deploy a version of my Devawriter Pro un Linux; but have not worked out how to get Unicode glyphs to show up properly in Unicode-enabled textfields. - I have carefully qualified that all my work with LC+Linux has been with Debian derivatives, for the very simple reason that that is the truth; so I really wouldn't want my findings being thought of as applicable to other types of Linux. Of course the pricing descrepancy is disgraceful. Of course this can also act as a self-fulfilling prophecy; as fewer people buy the LC package for Linux fewer resources will be devoted to developing it; but as the Linux package is effectively twice as expensive as the Mac Win ones, fewer people are likely to buy it. Richmond Mathewson. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: near feature parity
On 04/03/2012 05:58 PM, Warren Samples wrote: FWIW, I never had any trouble running Livecode under Mint 9 and 10, both 64 bit with compatibility libs installed, and 32 bit native, and have run it without any problems under openSUSE 11.4 and, currently, 12.1, 64 bit with 32 bit libs installed. Warren That's good to hear . . . :) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: near feature parity
Would you mind posting the RQCC #s here? I track Linux issues since they affect an ever-greater portion of my work. Thanks - -- Richard Gaskin Gladly, if you could tell me where here is . . . :) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: near feature parity
On 04/03/2012 08:15 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Mike- Tuesday, April 3, 2012, 7:31:37 AM, you wrote: The worst part is 5) No response to bug reports from the team. I almost *always* get responses to bug reports. They may not get acted on right away (or ever), but at least I know that someone has noticed and one of confirmed, couldn't reproduce, or needs more info. Personally I keep my bugs to myself; nobody likes a chap who scratches in public all that much. Oops . . . did I get something wrong there? LOL! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
[ANN] DataTree 2.0 Beta 1
Dear LiveCode users, I am pleased to announce you the release of DataTree 2.0 Beta 1. DataTree 2.0 has a lot of new exciting features: - Dramatic performance improvements - Checkboxes - Drag and drop - Badges (eg. Number of unread mails) - Tooltips - Improved scrolling - Windows 7/MacOS X 10.6 themes. - And many more... You can now try DataTree 2.0 Beta 1 by downloading it at: URL: http://www.nativesoft.net/downloads/NativeSoft_Web_Installer.rev http://www.nativesoft.net/downloads/NativeSoft_Web_Installer.rev - How to upgrade from DataTree 1.x: Please save a copy of your stacks before doing anything, then remove the substack Data Tree Library from your application. Please read the section Putting the library into use of the DataTree 2.0 user manual in order to get started quickly. - Note for NativeDoc 2.0 users: You have to update NativeDoc to version 2.0.1 with the NativeSoft Web Installer in order to use DataTree 2.0 Beta. - Bug reports As a user component must be bug-free, this is why there is this beta. Please try it with your applications and if you find any bugs please report them to: NativeSoft Quality Center: http://quality.nativesoft.net http://quality.nativesoft.net Best Regards, Damien Girard NativeSoft France | LiveCode solutions. http://www.nativesoft.fr/ www.nativesoft.fr ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: near feature parity
On 04/03/2012 12:11 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Still would be nice to have feature parity and not cost*more* than the other platforms. That's just insulting. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net :) I agree with this entirely. I haven't been running Livecode under Linux for all that long, no earlier than v4.(something), but I just felt that Bernard's post could be unnecessarily discouraging to those who might otherwise give it a try. My motive for posting was to provide some counterbalance to that. Not to dismiss the problems and inconvenience caused by the known issues and relatively lacking features, it does work and works mostly well (in all *my* experience), within the limitations imposed by these missing features and known issues. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: near feature parity
Let me correct that on no response. That isn't really correct. It's more like no action. I do get responses most of the time, generally confirming what I'm seeing. It's the next step - putting things on the priority list that is more the problem. I agree that the priority should be more on the mobile platforms, and I hope that is the plan. I probably did not say strongly enough that I appreciate having any sort of Linux option. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Iron Sky 04/04
Richard- Looks like more going on 04/04 than Fourth World's anniversary... http://www.ironsky.net -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Iron Sky 04/04
Oops. Ignore this. Sent it to the list by accident. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Iron Sky 04/04
Mark Wieder wrote: Richard- Looks like more going on 04/04 than Fourth World's anniversary... http://www.ironsky.net Saving the solar system from Nazi invasion is just another day's work here at Fourth World :) -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Iron Sky 04/04
Hey, I wrote a World Destruction stack for these guys once! Was that a bad thing? Bob On Apr 3, 2012, at 11:24 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: Oops. Ignore this. Sent it to the list by accident. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Iron Sky 04/04
On 04/03/2012 09:20 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Richard- Looks like more going on 04/04 than Fourth World's anniversary... http://www.ironsky.net Looks plain juvenile, and very little else; cowboy Sarah Palin versus Injun Nazis. Count me out. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: getProp syntax query
On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:17 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: ...Mark came through on his end of the bargain wonderfully, providing a sample function that worked on the first level of array keys, which was enough for me to expand it to be able extract the data from any key regardless of depth. The article explaining it all is in progress now and close to done. I expect to be able to post it to LiveCode Journal by Saturday. Here's a tantalizing tidbit to whet your appetite: The sample stack I wrote for this creates a three-dimensional array with 100 items in each dimension, resulting in an arrayEncoded file with 1 million elements that's about 20 MBs on disk. The function I made from Mark's example code can extract the data from any element in that file in about 3 to 5 milliseconds. Hint: the function makes heavy use of the binaryDecode function and the seek command, both of which are explained in depth in the article and which you may find very valuable for a wide variety of uses. The seek command is a god for rapidly traversing large files easily. I look forward to sharing this with you ASAP - Cool stuff. Can't wait to read your article. Best regards, Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Iron Sky 04/04
Use the 4s, Mark. On Apr 3, 2012, at 2:24 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Looks like more going on 04/04 than Fourth World's anniversary... http://www.ironsky.net Saving the solar system from Nazi invasion is just another day's work here at Fourth World ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Iron Sky 04/04
But … be careful of the dark side of the 4s. (we're not really doing this, are we?) On Apr 3, 2012, at 11:58 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: Use the 4s, Mark. On Apr 3, 2012, at 2:24 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Looks like more going on 04/04 than Fourth World's anniversary... http://www.ironsky.net Saving the solar system from Nazi invasion is just another day's work here at Fourth World ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Iron Sky 04/04
On 4/3/12 1:58 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: Use the 4s, Mark. Ewww :) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Location of iOS 5.0 SDK
On 4/3/12 6:43 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Come on in, the waters fine. I did it. I am speaking to you from the Lion's den. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Location of iOS 5.0 SDK
Next purchase - Magic Track Pad! Tim On Apr 3, 2012, at 12:14 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 4/3/12 6:43 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Come on in, the waters fine. I did it. I am speaking to you from the Lion's den. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Location of iOS 5.0 SDK
Thanks for the info you all I'm going into the den. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Tim Jones Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 3:24 PM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: Location of iOS 5.0 SDK Next purchase - Magic Track Pad! Tim On Apr 3, 2012, at 12:14 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 4/3/12 6:43 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Come on in, the waters fine. I did it. I am speaking to you from the Lion's den. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Location of iOS 5.0 SDK
On 4/3/12 2:24 PM, Tim Jones wrote: Next purchase - Magic Track Pad! Got it already, but my old mouse is more precise. It put a lot of ugly junk in my dock. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Printing anomoly between pdf and printed output
Hi I have a stack which analyses data and displays the results in two simple table fields. These are placed on a hidden card 575w x 800h for printing to A4 paper or pdf. These table fields are locked and have both vertical and horizontal lines showing. Everything works as it should except that table fields are different on the printed output and the pdf. The pdf is very accurate however the printed table has extra vertical lines on both the extreme left and right of the table. It's as if the table now has a column to the left of my first column (which is partially printed) and an extra very narrow column on the extreme right. I have tried printing with the table 'ungrouped', I've tried turning the lines on and off to see if this reset makes any difference but no change. Can anyone shed some light on this? Its really more of an annoyance than anything else as both outputs are perfectly useable. I would just like to know why I get these artefacts and what I can do, if anything, to remove them Thanks. -- Regards Ian McKnight iangmckni...@gmail.com === ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Getting Text from another open application window
Sorry for the delayed reply, just catching up with my mail. It is possible to get text from a window displayed by another applications under Windows as long as the application is using the standard Windows GUI APIs to display data. Doing so requires making calls to the Windows System API so I believe would require a LiveCode external to be written to wrap the Windows System API calls. Regards Peter On 24 Jan 2012, at 06:41, stephen barncard wrote: I don't think any application can do that without an API. On 23 January 2012 12:06, Camm cam...@tesco.net wrote: It a Windows based app. The machine is standalone and has no external data connections. It could be possible via the SDK , but that would mean writing externals. Are we saying that livecode cannot get text from other displayed window ? Best Regards Camm Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Location of iOS 5.0 SDK
J. Landman Gay wrote I did it. I am speaking to you from the Lion's den. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque@ To the sound of applause heard in the background :) -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Location-of-iOS-5-0-SDK-tp4524976p4530940.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Location of iOS 5.0 SDK
J. Landman Gay wrote I did it. I am speaking to you from the Lion's den. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque@ To the sound of applause heard in the background :) -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Location-of-iOS-5-0-SDK-tp4524976p4530941.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
