Re: [OT] How long before..
Ken Corey wrote If the HIG are not scientifically provable usability, but simply subjective statements, then how can we measure usability? The enterprise is fundamentally mistaken. We have to start by recognizing there is no such thing. One size does not fit all. Different people, different working situations, different configurations. If you think about some areas where usability standards do work, what they have in common is an identical set of tasks and a requirement to be able to move from one machine to another without disruption. All cars now for instance have gear shifts, gear locations and signalling controls in the same place and they all work the same. But we are all driving the same roads to the same rules. A halfway example from UI in computers is double click to open. But, my experience is that given a choice, at least a third of people will choose single click in the file manager. And yes, this does contravene HIG rules, because it leads to some openings needing double clicks. Contrary to the myth, they adapt without any difficulty and positively prefer it this way. Not all. But a substantial minority. The right approach is not to try to define something called usability and then try to implement it. The right way is to enable the user to choose how he wants to work. The OS News readership is obviously very unusual, but you can see this diversity every time they run a feature on readers desktops. The variety is simply wild. Yet all these desktops are the result of someone's seriously finding them nicer and more usable. Flux for instance is right for me. I agree with Richmond that XFCE is very nice - have that on a laptop. But Evolution has a large following and apparently the new Gnome has enthusiasts. The lesson is, there are preferences, and usability is not a useful concept in the way its being employed now, because no preferences are better than any others. Its a bit like asking how we find the correct size or style for shoes. The answer is that the right size and style is the one that fits and allows the wearer to move as he or she wants in the environment they are in, and a lady at a formal dinner won't want construction boots. If you want to test an application, maybe the right test is user errors. Track them and see what's going wrong and change it. In defiance of professional advice, I once permitted users to edit a data file directly, not giving them a more long winded but more controlled interface. It was faster and simpler but error prone. This was the source of lots of errors, and it had to be changed. Once I found that people were opening the same application twice, and had to correct what was giving rise to that. The mistakes people make when trying to use what we have written is probably the most valuable test. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/OT-How-long-before-tp4653161p4653267.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] How long before..
On 02/08/2012 08:16, Peter Alcibiades wrote: If the HIG are not scientifically provable usability, but simply subjective statements, then how can we measure usability? The enterprise is fundamentally mistaken. We have to start by recognizing there is no such thing. One size does not fit all. Different people, [...] If you want to test an application, maybe the right test is user errors. Track them and see what's going wrong and change it. In defiance of professional advice, I once permitted users to edit a data file directly, not giving them a more long winded but more controlled interface. It was Peter, my intuition says you're on to something here. I was reading the development diary of the Android game Replica Island. The game was reporting usage statistics back to the server, so he could see which levels were inherently harder, where people were having troubles, and therefore which bits of the game were demanding redesign. (I don't know if he did redesign anything in the end, but the data was there to see). In the app I just released, I learned very valuable things watching people try to play with it without training of any kind. I watched them make mistakes and fail to use the program in various ways. The places where they failed to accomplish what they wanted were areas that needed to be improved...bugs, if you will. Oh, the program demonstrably functioned, but if it did not meet with user expectations and make them more productive, then it's not meeting the design goals. So it would seem that the initial design,coding and delivery is no more than half the ideal process. There needs to be a feedback loop where the user interaction is observed, quantified, and learned from to improve the app. -Ken ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] How long before..
Thanks for this great post, Peter. Le 2 août 2012 à 09:16, Peter Alcibiades a écrit : The mistakes people make when trying to use what we have written is probably the most valuable test. -- Pierre Sahores mobile : 06 03 95 77 70 www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
PCGuard Licensing and LC
Has anybody ever use PCGuard (http://www.sofpro.com) with LC? Years ago, this was my primary licensing tool when I used Director. I did notice that there is support for the Runtime Revolution compiler but I have a feeling that is really old information. I know there are other licensing options out there but I found this to be pretty darn robust for my previous projects. Thanks for your input! SKIP ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: PCGuard Licensing and LC
Mmm ... ... LiveCode programs are p-code like interpreted at run-time. AFAIK there is not a RunRev LiveCode decompiler (/probably because of the not so big global spread of the product/) so, why to spend more, when an effective protection is attained with a a product _designed for Livecode_ which cost less ? ... http://hyperactivesw.com/solutions_zygodact.html ;-) Guglielmo On 02.08.2012 15:28, Magicgate Software - Skip Kimpel wrote: Has anybody ever use PCGuard (http://www.sofpro.com) with LC? Years ago, this was my primary licensing tool when I used Director. I did notice that there is support for the Runtime Revolution compiler but I have a feeling that is really old information. I know there are other licensing options out there but I found this to be pretty darn robust for my previous projects. Thanks for your input! SKIP ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Upgrade to Mountain Lion
FYI If you had Xcode 4.4 installed under Lion and upgraded to Mountain Lion, you might have to manually reinstall any of the components you have previously installed from the Preferences panel. For example, the Comamnd Line Tools component has to be reinstalled since there is a different (ie older) version for Lion than Mountain Lion. -- Tom McGrath III http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [ANN] penTool 0.3.2h [with scalable gradients]
Jacque- Wednesday, August 1, 2012, 9:50:31 PM, you wrote: On 8/1/12 3:35 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Undo.Store pObject, tCount, the htmltext of field kCodeField of stack self Self? Something undocumented, or an omitted local? Would be nice, but it's just a constant. constant self = revGLX2 Code -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Script editing messages
Thanks Mark. That's what I was looking for. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 7:25 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: If you grab editScript in a frontscript you don't need to worry about whether it gets passed down to the current card. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ANN: GLX2 3.0.10
Mark, is the undo array reset when saving the script, or saving the stack, or neither? Bob On Aug 1, 2012, at 8:51 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Alejandro- Wednesday, August 1, 2012, 4:04:47 PM, you wrote: glx2 is one of the most extraordinary examples of smart coding using the best features of this development platform. Uh oh. I'd better release this then since I've been keeping the undo stuff to myself so far... GLX2 3.0.10 new stuff Refactoring support in the Script menu. Not everything is working yet, but it's a good start, and the parts that aren't there yet will tell you so. Unlimited undos! This is a big deal. I got rid of the old undo mechanism that wasn't really working very well and put a FILO stack array in its place. Fast, efficient, and you can undo all the way back to when you first opened the script editing session. known issues Refactoring to change the signature of a function is still wonky. Commands work ok, but I still need to do some work on the function parameter formatting. https://bitbucket.org/mwieder/glx2/downloads -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Copying objects to the clipboard
After copying an object to the clipboard, the clipboard data type is objects. Is there a way to determine what type of object or do I have to keep track of that myself? This is in connection with a copy/paste and figuring if a paste is valid or not, e.g. pasting a substack to a card would be invalid. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Copying objects to the clipboard
Pete, Copy a button and the clipboardData[objects] contains REVO2700__ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Copying objects to the clipboard
Thansk Mark. Lokks like REVO2700 is always there no matter what type of object is on the clipboard. There's a bunch of other data there to but a lot of it looks like it's encoded in some way (array decode didn't like it) so would be a pain to figure it all out. Looks like I'll just have to keep track of it myself when the copy action happens. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: Pete, Copy a button and the clipboardData[objects] contains REVO2700 Maybe that helps? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Economy-x-Talk is looking for an amateur painter/cartoonist/poet etc. Contact me http://qery.us/du The Economy-x-Talk office is closed from 30 August until 4 September 2012. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Copying objects to the clipboard
Peter, Somehow, the text pasted in my e-mail got cut off. My original e-mail shows the word button. Apparently, the data on the clipboard indicates in clear text what type of object it contains and that's what you asked for. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Economy-x-Talk is looking for an amateur painter/cartoonist/poet etc. Contact me http://qery.us/du The Economy-x-Talk office is closed from 30 August until 4 September 2012. On 2 aug 2012, at 20:50, Peter Haworth wrote: Thansk Mark. Lokks like REVO2700 is always there no matter what type of object is on the clipboard. There's a bunch of other data there to but a lot of it looks like it's encoded in some way (array decode didn't like it) so would be a pain to figure it all out. Looks like I'll just have to keep track of it myself when the copy action happens. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
LC Android FC on Samsung s 3 sph-l 710. Android version 4.0.4
Does anyone have this device to test for me. I have a customer that is getting an FC on the login screen as soon as they type a character. If he hits the login button first he gets the appropriate error message but if he keys any characters, a brief pause and then the FC. This is the only customer with the error. The app is in the PlayStore. Search for JBT. The app name is JBT Sectional. I'm dying here. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Copying objects to the clipboard
OK, thanks Mark, I'll check into it further. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: Peter, Somehow, the text pasted in my e-mail got cut off. My original e-mail shows the word button. Apparently, the data on the clipboard indicates in clear text what type of object it contains and that's what you asked for. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Economy-x-Talk is looking for an amateur painter/cartoonist/poet etc. Contact me http://qery.us/du The Economy-x-Talk office is closed from 30 August until 4 September 2012. On 2 aug 2012, at 20:50, Peter Haworth wrote: Thansk Mark. Lokks like REVO2700 is always there no matter what type of object is on the clipboard. There's a bunch of other data there to but a lot of it looks like it's encoded in some way (array decode didn't like it) so would be a pain to figure it all out. Looks like I'll just have to keep track of it myself when the copy action happens. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Copying objects to the clipboard
Hi Mark, I just checked this out again and I don't see the word button when a button is on the clipboard. Here's what I get from a put the clipboardData[objects] in the message box: REVO2700$Rmac switcherB Clocal tMode After that I see the plain text of the scripts for the button. Maybe this is an LC version difference? I'm on 5.5.0, OS X Lion. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: Peter, Somehow, the text pasted in my e-mail got cut off. My original e-mail shows the word button. Apparently, the data on the clipboard indicates in clear text what type of object it contains and that's what you asked for. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Economy-x-Talk is looking for an amateur painter/cartoonist/poet etc. Contact me http://qery.us/du The Economy-x-Talk office is closed from 30 August until 4 September 2012. On 2 aug 2012, at 20:50, Peter Haworth wrote: Thansk Mark. Lokks like REVO2700 is always there no matter what type of object is on the clipboard. There's a bunch of other data there to but a lot of it looks like it's encoded in some way (array decode didn't like it) so would be a pain to figure it all out. Looks like I'll just have to keep track of it myself when the copy action happens. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LC Android FC on Samsung s 3 sph-l 710. Android version 4.0.4
On 8/2/12 2:42 PM, Ralph DiMola wrote: Does anyone have this device to test for me. I have a customer that is getting an FC on the login screen as soon as they type a character. I don't have that device, but my Android stuff always shuts down if I'm using any keyboard except the stock one or the Samsung one. I normally use Swiftkey but it kills LiveCode apps. The docs do say that not all keyboards work. See if he's installed a third party keyboard. I always have to remember to change keyboards before I launch my apps that require input. It's one reason I won't do any commercial development for Android yet if the app requires direct user input. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: LC Android FC on Samsung s 3 sph-l 710. Android version 4.0.4
Jacque, In your observations would a mobileSetKeyboardType default help? If I used the mobile text input control I assume this would eliminate the problem altogether. Thanks Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of J. Landman Gay Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 3:55 PM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: LC Android FC on Samsung s 3 sph-l 710. Android version 4.0.4 On 8/2/12 2:42 PM, Ralph DiMola wrote: Does anyone have this device to test for me. I have a customer that is getting an FC on the login screen as soon as they type a character. I don't have that device, but my Android stuff always shuts down if I'm using any keyboard except the stock one or the Samsung one. I normally use Swiftkey but it kills LiveCode apps. The docs do say that not all keyboards work. See if he's installed a third party keyboard. I always have to remember to change keyboards before I launch my apps that require input. It's one reason I won't do any commercial development for Android yet if the app requires direct user input. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Copying objects to the clipboard
I think whjat you are seeing is the name of the control, not it's type. In my example, I had a button on the clipboard named mac switcher and that name showed up but not the word button. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: Pete, I did a test in LC 5.0.2 running on Snow Leopard. This is what I see: http://qery.us/2fy -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Economy-x-Talk is looking for an amateur painter/cartoonist/poet etc. Contact me http://qery.us/du The Economy-x-Talk office is closed from 30 August until 4 September 2012. On 2 aug 2012, at 21:52, Peter Haworth wrote: Hi Mark, I just checked this out again and I don't see the word button when a button is on the clipboard. Here's what I get from a put the clipboardData[objects] in the message box: REVO2700$Rmac switcherB Clocal tMode After that I see the plain text of the scripts for the button. Maybe this is an LC version difference? I'm on 5.5.0, OS X Lion. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I can't send a message with a field to another handler
Hi. If you do not specify a full pathname (or LC-type pathname), LC will assume you are on the same card. So just change your code to ...fld tgt of cd yourcard [of stack otherStack] Craig Newman -Original Message- From: Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thu, Aug 2, 2012 3:25 pm Subject: I can't send a message with a field to another handler I've written functions/handlers to convert between pennies and formatted dollars. I'm trying to write a function or handler that can add them, but am getting caught up in the parsing. I've tried a handler like on dlrAdd amt, tgt put dlrStr(dlrVal(amt) + dlrVal( fld quote tgt quote)) into field the long name of fld tgt end dlrAdd but this only works when the target is on the same page--a tgt name like myTot of Card 1 results in an unfound error (it's looking for a field with that name on the current page, i believe) I've tried on dlrAdd amt --send to a field to add a dollar amount to it put dlrStr(dlrVal(amt) + dlrVal(the target)) into the target end dlrAdd and then send dlrAdd field sbFld to fld (sbt_ sbFld) to get the target field to add the amount to itself, but this doesn't get the field amount passed. I'm trying to have a single handler here to make this all maintainable. -- The Hawkins Law Firm Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 hawkinslawf...@gmail.com 3025 S. Maryland Parkway Suite A Las Vegas, NV 89109 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LC Android FC on Samsung s 3 sph-l 710. Android version 4.0.4
I don't have that device either. I was going to try it on my Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10, but the app wasn't available for my tablet. So, I made a new stack, dragged a text entry widget onto it, and launched it on the tablet. I only have the Samsung keyboard installed. When predictive text is on, the word never appears in the input. With predictive text off, the text appears as expected. No FC here, but not acceptable behaviour either. I was watching logcat, and didn't see anything immediately obvious there. I'm not given the option of going back to a google keyboard on this device, so I can't provide any more info...sorry. -Ken On 02/08/2012 20:42, Ralph DiMola wrote: Does anyone have this device to test for me. I have a customer that is getting an FC on the login screen as soon as they type a character. If he hits the login button first he gets the appropriate error message but if he keys any characters, a brief pause and then the FC. This is the only customer with the error. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: LC Android FC on Samsung s 3 sph-l 710. Android version 4.0.4
Thanks Ken, What do I need to set in standalone apps setting so your tablet is available. The only think I have required is the touch screen. Did you search for just JBT? Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Ken Corey Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 4:35 PM To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: LC Android FC on Samsung s 3 sph-l 710. Android version 4.0.4 I don't have that device either. I was going to try it on my Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10, but the app wasn't available for my tablet. So, I made a new stack, dragged a text entry widget onto it, and launched it on the tablet. I only have the Samsung keyboard installed. When predictive text is on, the word never appears in the input. With predictive text off, the text appears as expected. No FC here, but not acceptable behaviour either. I was watching logcat, and didn't see anything immediately obvious there. I'm not given the option of going back to a google keyboard on this device, so I can't provide any more info...sorry. -Ken On 02/08/2012 20:42, Ralph DiMola wrote: Does anyone have this device to test for me. I have a customer that is getting an FC on the login screen as soon as they type a character. If he hits the login button first he gets the appropriate error message but if he keys any characters, a brief pause and then the FC. This is the only customer with the error. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LC Android FC on Samsung s 3 sph-l 710. Android version 4.0.4
On 8/2/12 3:26 PM, Ralph DiMola wrote: Jacque, In your observations would a mobileSetKeyboardType default help? If I used the mobile text input control I assume this would eliminate the problem altogether. Doubt it. I never set the keyboard type so it's always the default. Default is the displayed key set (i.e., not the email or numeric sets) but it doesn't control which keyboard app is running. That's strictly a user setting. Your user should try setting it back to the system keyboard app (in Settings) if he's using something else. If that fixes the problem then there's not much you can do; the problem is an incompatibility with the engine. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LC Android FC on Samsung s 3 sph-l 710. Android version 4.0.4
On 8/2/12 3:26 PM, Ralph DiMola wrote: Jacque, In your observations would a mobileSetKeyboardType default help? If I used the mobile text input control I assume this would eliminate the problem altogether. Ooops, just noticed you said the native text input control. I don't know. The only app I have that crashes uses a regular LiveCode field. It might work. If it does then you probably wouldn't need to set the default keyboard. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LC Android FC on Samsung s 3 sph-l 710. Android version 4.0.4
Uh...I don't know. The tablet is certainly a touch screen. Let's see...I don't see any limitations in the 'Standalone Application Settings'. I opened the AndroidManifest.xml, and it supp0orts large screens. When you uploaded the app to the market, which countries did you list? I'm in the UK. I can't think of anything else that would limit it. Anyone else have any idea? If you wanted to email me a standalone, I could have a run real quick and let you know what happens. -Ken On 02/08/2012 21:46, Ralph DiMola wrote: What do I need to set in standalone apps setting so your tablet is available. The only think I have required is the touch screen. Did you search for just JBT? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Secure Login
Greetings All, Is there a preferred way of securely logging in and exchanging data between rev IOS client and rev server. Thanks, Debdoot ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: LC Android FC on Samsung s 3 sph-l 710. Android version 4.0.4
Oops. UK is in. Username:u...@rr.com Password:Dfdf77 Also @ this link http://evergreeninfo.on-rev.com/www/JBT/x0Ak_ayLA_knQL/JBT Red Book_248.apk Thanks. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Ken Corey Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 5:18 PM To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: LC Android FC on Samsung s 3 sph-l 710. Android version 4.0.4 Uh...I don't know. The tablet is certainly a touch screen. Let's see...I don't see any limitations in the 'Standalone Application Settings'. I opened the AndroidManifest.xml, and it supp0orts large screens. When you uploaded the app to the market, which countries did you list? I'm in the UK. I can't think of anything else that would limit it. Anyone else have any idea? If you wanted to email me a standalone, I could have a run real quick and let you know what happens. -Ken On 02/08/2012 21:46, Ralph DiMola wrote: What do I need to set in standalone apps setting so your tablet is available. The only think I have required is the touch screen. Did you search for just JBT? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I can't send a message with a field to another handler
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 1:34 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: If you do not specify a full pathname (or LC-type pathname), LC will assume you are on the same card. So just change your code to ...fld tgt of cd yourcard [of stack otherStack] that works when I spell it out (which is what I did when using straight arithmetic instead of formatting) The problem is passing the target field as a variable; livecode handles tgt containing myfield just fine, but I haven't found a way to send it myfield of that other card without it looking for a field on the same card with that name. -- The Hawkins Law Firm Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 hawkinslawf...@gmail.com 3025 S. Maryland Parkway Suite A Las Vegas, NV 89109 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: LC Android FC on Samsung s 3 sph-l 710. Android version 4.0.4
Last message has a bad link Oops. UK is in. Username:u...@rr.com Password:Dfdf77 Also @ this link http://evergreeninfo.on-rev.com/www/JBT/x0Ak_ayLA_knQL/JBT_Red_Book_248.apk Thanks. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Ken Corey Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 5:18 PM To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: LC Android FC on Samsung s 3 sph-l 710. Android version 4.0.4 Uh...I don't know. The tablet is certainly a touch screen. Let's see...I don't see any limitations in the 'Standalone Application Settings'. I opened the AndroidManifest.xml, and it supp0orts large screens. When you uploaded the app to the market, which countries did you list? I'm in the UK. I can't think of anything else that would limit it. Anyone else have any idea? If you wanted to email me a standalone, I could have a run real quick and let you know what happens. -Ken On 02/08/2012 21:46, Ralph DiMola wrote: What do I need to set in standalone apps setting so your tablet is available. The only think I have required is the touch screen. Did you search for just JBT? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: LC Android FC on Samsung s 3 sph-l 710. Android version 4.0.4
Last message has a bad link again. This time I tested it. Sorry folks. Oops. UK is in. Username:u...@rr.com Password:Dfdf77 Also @ this link http://evergreeninfo.on-rev.com/JBT/x0Ak_ayLA_knQL/JBT_Red_Book_248.apk Thanks. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Ken Corey Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 5:18 PM To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: LC Android FC on Samsung s 3 sph-l 710. Android version 4.0.4 Uh...I don't know. The tablet is certainly a touch screen. Let's see...I don't see any limitations in the 'Standalone Application Settings'. I opened the AndroidManifest.xml, and it supp0orts large screens. When you uploaded the app to the market, which countries did you list? I'm in the UK. I can't think of anything else that would limit it. Anyone else have any idea? If you wanted to email me a standalone, I could have a run real quick and let you know what happens. -Ken On 02/08/2012 21:46, Ralph DiMola wrote: What do I need to set in standalone apps setting so your tablet is available. The only think I have required is the touch screen. Did you search for just JBT? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I can't send a message with a field to another handler
On 8/2/12 5:48 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 1:34 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: If you do not specify a full pathname (or LC-type pathname), LC will assume you are on the same card. So just change your code to ...fld tgt of cd yourcard [of stack otherStack] that works when I spell it out (which is what I did when using straight arithmetic instead of formatting) The problem is passing the target field as a variable; livecode handles tgt containing myfield just fine, but I haven't found a way to send it myfield of that other card without it looking for a field on the same card with that name. Pass the long name or the long ID of the target field. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I can't send a message with a field to another handler
The syntax would be send message to field fieldname of card cardname if it is in the same stack. If it is in another stack, then send message to field fieldname of card cardname of stack stackname Bob On Aug 2, 2012, at 3:48 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: The problem is passing the target field as a variable; livecode handles tgt containing myfield just fine, but I haven't found a way to send it myfield of that other card without it looking for a field on the same card with that name. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
physical books...
The publisher sent three copies of my book to me. I wasn't expecting them this soon, so that was a pleasant surprise when I signed for two packages (I already knew about another package). I showed the books to the security guard and some neighbors! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: physical books...
It's really exciting the first time you get to hold the hardcopy of your first book in your hands, isn't it, Colin? I still remember that day like it was yesterday. (In reality, it was 11 or 12 years ago, but who's counting?). On Aug 2, 2012, at 7:50 PM, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote: The publisher sent three copies of my book to me. I wasn't expecting them this soon, so that was a pleasant surprise when I signed for two packages (I already knew about another package). I showed the books to the security guard and some neighbors! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ANN: GLX2 3.0.10
Bob- Thursday, August 2, 2012, 10:40:51 AM, you wrote: Mark, is the undo array reset when saving the script, or saving the stack, or neither? Ah, neither. You can undo back past saves. Hmmm... is that a problem? -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: physical books...
Colin- Wanna sell one to me? I've had it with packt... I had my credit card company cancel the payment, filed a complaint, and I don't have a problem giving you all the money instead of the pittance you get from them as just an author. And I'd advise everyone else to just buy the book from Amazon or BN and stay away from packt. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I can't send a message with a field to another handler
On Thursday, August 2, 2012, Bob Sneidar wrote: The syntax would be send message to field fieldname of card cardname Just to be clear here, it's not the mechanics of getting it there, but rather the content format of the message. -- The Hawkins Law Firm Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 hawkinslawf...@gmail.com 3025 S. Maryland Parkway Suite A Las Vegas, NV 89109 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: physical books...
Colin, Is it available from BN. We have a Nook. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Colin Holgate Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 7:50 PM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: physical books... The publisher sent three copies of my book to me. I wasn't expecting them this soon, so that was a pleasant surprise when I signed for two packages (I already knew about another package). I showed the books to the security guard and some neighbors! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I can't send a message with a field to another handler
Try putting parentheses around the card identifier: fld yourField of (card yourCard) HC used to be finicky about card identifiers, frequently concatenating any following terms. Lock this sort of thing out by explicitly corralling the card name or whatever. Or I am missing something... Craig Newman -Original Message- From: Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thu, Aug 2, 2012 6:49 pm Subject: Re: I can't send a message with a field to another handler On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 1:34 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: If you do not specify a full pathname (or LC-type pathname), LC will assume you are on the same card. So just change your code to ...fld tgt of cd yourcard [of stack otherStack] that works when I spell it out (which is what I did when using straight arithmetic instead of formatting) The problem is passing the target field as a variable; livecode handles tgt containing myfield just fine, but I haven't found a way to send it myfield of that other card without it looking for a field on the same card with that name. -- The Hawkins Law Firm Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 hawkinslawf...@gmail.com 3025 S. Maryland Parkway Suite A Las Vegas, NV 89109 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I can't send a message with a field to another handler
Perhaps we are all missing your point. Is a do construction in order? Please post again the offending line. Craig Newman -Original Message- From: Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thu, Aug 2, 2012 9:15 pm Subject: Re: I can't send a message with a field to another handler On Thursday, August 2, 2012, Bob Sneidar wrote: The syntax would be send message to field fieldname of card cardname Just to be clear here, it's not the mechanics of getting it there, but rather the content format of the message. -- The Hawkins Law Firm Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 hawkinslawf...@gmail.com 3025 S. Maryland Parkway Suite A Las Vegas, NV 89109 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
