Re: OT - Re: Windows standalone puzzle

2013-08-22 Thread Alex Tweedly

On 22/08/2013 01:03, Roger Eller wrote:

If they can edit what we see in a journalist presentation of the facts,
have they not in a way, erased some of the truth?

Yes in some strict sense. But any video shoot (or still photo) does that 
anyway - the eye can handle very wide variations in light intensity, but 
photo/video can't, so the cameraman attempts to capture as much of the 
important detail as she can. But 'auto light level' (or AWB, or any 
other adjustment) will vary the detail captured. Not so much 'erase the 
truth' as 'try to convey as much as the tools allow', and I'd see 'flash 
suppression' (if it could be done properly) as a similar attempt to 
allow more people to watch a particular clip.


But Tim is right - it's a cost issue rather than a technical one; and 
although a TV station might be able to do this and help promote their 
greater community concern for disabled folks, the affected target is 
probably too small to cost-justify it. Thirty years ago you  wouldn't 
have seen on your TV screens BSL (or ASL) signers or real-time 
subtitling - maybe this will come some day.


Thanks
-- Alex.


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Re: Control From Outside

2013-08-22 Thread Mark Schonewille

Hi Mike,

In that case, sockets are indeed not the right approach. It should be 
possible to use a standalone as a command line utility, with parameters 
as I explained before.


Hiding the LiveCode interface would seem more elegant to me. Maybe you 
can still use -u to hide the user interface altogether. You could also 
set the visible of your stacks to false.


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On 8/22/2013 03:57, Mike Kerner wrote:

And Mark S., sorry, I wasn't ignoring you, I just didn't see your message.
I have a system that's written in 4D that needs some functionality added to
it.  The code to do that is already written in LC.  Converting it would
work, but why bother, when I can just create a standalone in LC that I call
from 4D?





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Re: mobilePickPhoto camera - unstable on android

2013-08-22 Thread Neil Roger

Hi Paul,

If possible, could you submit a bug report on this issue with RunRev 
Quality Control and we will be happy to investigate it further.


You will be able to submit a report here-

http://quality.runrev.com

Kind Regards,

Neil Roger
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On 22/08/2013 04:41, Paul Kocsis wrote:

At present time, testing with community 6.1.1rc2.

I'm finding that on android, mobilePickPhoto camera is NOT stable.  On a
4.1.3 galaxy s2, about 1 out of 30-ish (sometimes more) calls to
mobilePickPhoto camera will not return (I.E. mobilePickPhoto camera' is
called, camera comes up, photo is taken, 'save' is tapped, then app crashes
and immediately restarts).  I know that when a crash occurs, it is
inside mobilePickPhoto camera as the next statement after mobilePickPhoto
does not get called.  It is MUCH worse on a Motorola Atrix 2.3.5.  I can
fairly easily get this crash to occur (maybe 1 out of 5 or 10 attempts).

(grasping at straws, but...) It almost seems like the older the
phone/android, the more often it happens...but although not the latest, a
galaxy s2 running 4.1.3 experiences the problem too (just not as often)...I
have tried to put a wait for 100 milli with messages before and after the
mobilePickPhoto camera command but it has not affected the crashes (can't
*really* put a wait for 100... immediately after since if I do I lose the
result from mobilePickPhoto, so I do a 'put the result into tresult' and
then do my waitbut no matter.doesn't make things better or worse).

Is there anyone out there that has had more than a cursory use of
mobilePickPhoto camera on android than can either deny or confirm what I
am seeing?

Thanks!

Paul K.
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Re: OT - Re: Windows standalone puzzle

2013-08-22 Thread Curry Kenworthy


 I'm afraid you're not getting 'truth' via broadcasts

Everything on TV is always true. Talking heads are infallible and edits 
only enhance the facts. Anything omitted was never worth knowing. Polls 
and statistics can never mislead. If you doubt this, you will develop a 
bad rash and be placed on some watch lists, and animals will run away 
from you.


Best wishes,

Curry K.


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Re: mobilePickPhoto camera - unstable on android

2013-08-22 Thread Paul Kocsis
Hello Neil,

Thank you so much for responding.

I have done so, here is the link:

http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8

Thanks again Neil!

Paul K


On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 3:44 AM, Neil Roger n...@runrev.com wrote:

 Hi Paul,

 If possible, could you submit a bug report on this issue with RunRev
 Quality Control and we will be happy to investigate it further.

 You will be able to submit a report here-

 http://quality.runrev.com

 Kind Regards,

 Neil Roger
 --
 RunRev Support Team ~ http://www.runrev.com
 --


 On 22/08/2013 04:41, Paul Kocsis wrote:

 At present time, testing with community 6.1.1rc2.

 I'm finding that on android, mobilePickPhoto camera is NOT stable.  On a
 4.1.3 galaxy s2, about 1 out of 30-ish (sometimes more) calls to
 mobilePickPhoto camera will not return (I.E. mobilePickPhoto camera' is
 called, camera comes up, photo is taken, 'save' is tapped, then app
 crashes
 and immediately restarts).  I know that when a crash occurs, it is
 inside mobilePickPhoto camera as the next statement after
 mobilePickPhoto
 does not get called.  It is MUCH worse on a Motorola Atrix 2.3.5.  I can
 fairly easily get this crash to occur (maybe 1 out of 5 or 10 attempts).

 (grasping at straws, but...) It almost seems like the older the
 phone/android, the more often it happens...but although not the latest, a
 galaxy s2 running 4.1.3 experiences the problem too (just not as
 often)...I
 have tried to put a wait for 100 milli with messages before and after the
 mobilePickPhoto camera command but it has not affected the crashes
 (can't
 *really* put a wait for 100... immediately after since if I do I lose the
 result from mobilePickPhoto, so I do a 'put the result into tresult' and
 then do my waitbut no matter.doesn't make things better or worse).

 Is there anyone out there that has had more than a cursory use of
 mobilePickPhoto camera on android than can either deny or confirm what I
 am seeing?

 Thanks!

 Paul K.
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Re: Control From Outside

2013-08-22 Thread Mike Kerner
Mark W. - I'm pretty sure that 4D can capture stderr.  Are you saying that
when LC sends output to stderr I won't be able to capture it?

Mark S. - yeah, I was thinking of that.  Originally I was going to move the
window offscreen, but -ui is probably better.

Thanks guys!  More questions to come, I'm sure.  I can't believe I'm just
discovering this.  All the things I could do with it...


On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:11 AM, Mark Schonewille 
m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote:

 Hi Mike,

 In that case, sockets are indeed not the right approach. It should be
 possible to use a standalone as a command line utility, with parameters as
 I explained before.

 Hiding the LiveCode interface would seem more elegant to me. Maybe you can
 still use -u to hide the user interface altogether. You could also set the
 visible of your stacks to false.


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 On 8/22/2013 03:57, Mike Kerner wrote:

 And Mark S., sorry, I wasn't ignoring you, I just didn't see your message.
 I have a system that's written in 4D that needs some functionality added
 to
 it.  The code to do that is already written in LC.  Converting it would
 work, but why bother, when I can just create a standalone in LC that I
 call
 from 4D?




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https problem

2013-08-22 Thread FlexibleLearning.com
I am using the IDE and getting a certificate error on Mac OS with a get url
https://etc;. Doesn't happen on Windows, although both the same version
5.5.

Any insights?

Hugh Senior
FLCo


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An oblivion!

2013-08-22 Thread Medard
Obviously, they forgot ONE language ;-)

http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/career-management/best-programming-lang
uages-to-learn-on-your-own-time/

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Projekt Browser: The control you selected no longer exists

2013-08-22 Thread Klaus major-k
Hi friends,

just saw a new entry in the forum, and this is what I also experience!
In 6.1.1 (rc2) there are problems in the Project Brwoser, did not find a 
reciope, 
it just happens.

You click an object in the PB and get the dialog:
The control you selected no longer exists

Of course these objects DO EXIST in fact, this is very annoying.
Restarting LC helps (until next time)

Anyone else seen this?


Best

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Re: Projekt Browser: The control you selected no longer exists

2013-08-22 Thread Klaus major-k
Hi Jaques,

Am 22.08.2013 um 15:25 schrieb Jacques Hausser jacques.haus...@unil.ch:

 Le 22 août 2013 à 15:08, Klaus major-k kl...@major-k.de a écrit :
 
 Hi friends,
 
 just saw a new entry in the forum, and this is what I also experience!
 In 6.1.1 (rc2) there are problems in the Project Brwoser, did not find a 
 reciope, 
 it just happens.
 
 You click an object in the PB and get the dialog:
 The control you selected no longer exists
 
 Of course these objects DO EXIST in fact, this is very annoying.
 Restarting LC helps (until next time)
 
 Anyone else seen this?
 
 
 Best
 
 Klaus
 
 Oh yes, Klaus - I see that every time I click an object on a (sub)stack which 
 is not on screen…
 
 This Project Browser is at first view very appealing, but till yet it is 
 awkward to use: if it is open when you try to move a very populated group 
 with the arrows, for instance, the move is at best sluggish (a definitively 
 rheumatismal slug, indeed). When you try to use it to change the layering of 
 groups and objects, it confuses the targets and move not the selected object, 
 but the following one… and so on, and so on.
 
 So, a very good idea, but needs some serious reworking.

OK, thanks, I send a but report to RunRev!

 Jacques

Best

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Re: https problem

2013-08-22 Thread Thierry Douez
Hi Hugh,

Probably this thread will give you some direction...

http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Post-command-help-td4666572.html#a4666761

HTH,

Thierry



2013/8/22 FlexibleLearning.com ad...@flexiblelearning.com

 I am using the IDE and getting a certificate error on Mac OS with a get url
 https://etc;. Doesn't happen on Windows, although both the same version
 5.5.

 Any insights?

 Hugh Senior
 FLCo






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Re: Control From Outside

2013-08-22 Thread Mark Wieder
Mike-

Thursday, August 22, 2013, 5:15:40 AM, you wrote:

 Mark W. - I'm pretty sure that 4D can capture stderr.  Are you saying that
 when LC sends output to stderr I won't be able to capture it?

No, not saying that at all, sorry. Just that it *also* can go to the
console. Capturing the stderr output shouldn't be a problem.

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Re: ANN:Another app made with LiveCode has been approved by Apple!

2013-08-22 Thread Mark Talluto
On Aug 21, 2013, at 7:19 PM, Michael Gruenthal mgruent...@mac.com wrote:

 Doesn't that violate the terms of your agreement with Apple?

I view Apple like the tide in the ocean.  It is always moving.  There are a 
number of apps that hook into services that exist outside of the Apple 
financial ecosystem. This is our attempt to play in that arena.  There may be a 
day when Apple changes its mind and asks us to modify our model. Until then we 
will see how this goes.  The app is designed to sell more desktop services.  
This is where the profit is.  It is not the other way around.

Here’s to the crazy ones. The misfits. The rebels. The troublemakers. The 
round pegs in the square holes.
The ones who see things differently. They’re not fond of rules…


Best regards,

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android and LC 6.1

2013-08-22 Thread Alain Vezina
I developed several apps for iOS and I plane to bring some of those to Android. 
Before I start, I am seeking for two answers :
1. is LiveCode 6.1 compatible with Android 4.3 ?
2. will an app compiled with LiveCode 6.1 work on a device running Android 
higher than 3.1 ?


Alain Vézina, directeur
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Re: html tags recognized by htmlText

2013-08-22 Thread Peter Haworth
How do you find this stuff!  Seems there's a whole genre of similar Youtube
clips.

Pete
lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com


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ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote:

 Peter Haworth wrote:

  Mark,

 You said:

 Best thing to do is fork the repository, git clone it locally, make

 your changes, push them, and submit a pull request.


 I heard :

 Best thing to do is jwehf KJHFKHFTYL *%*%$$$ kjdkhdkjhd pull request

 :-)


 Cut to Godwin's Law:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=CDeG4S-mJtshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDeG4S-mJts

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Re: html tags recognized by htmlText

2013-08-22 Thread Peter Haworth
I did indeed and thanks for the link.  Even though I didn't understand your
instructions, I was able to download the dictionary editor stack and look
forward to checking out how the dictionary works and its structure.

Pete
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 Pete-

 Tuesday, August 20, 2013, 6:18:48 PM, you wrote:

  I heard :

  Best thing to do is jwehf KJHFKHFTYL *%*%$$$ kjdkhdkjhd pull request

 Well, hey... you asked...

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Re: Post command help

2013-08-22 Thread Ben Rubinstein

On 24/06/2013 16:28, Thierry Douez wrote:

2013/6/24 J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com

It sounds like the issue only occurs on OS X 10.6, right? Mac 10.7+ and
Windows machines are not affected? Do you know?



​Umm, it's not working on Mac 10.7.5 right now on my box.



And it's not working on Mac 10.8.4 on mine.

Meanwhile the entire item that Thierry quoted has vanished from the release 
notes.

And libUrlSetSSLVerification, mentioned (I think) in Thierry's response from 
RunRev support, does not appear in any documentation that I can find.


I've added a bug report to the QCC (#11121) to reflect the fact that this 
remains a bug in, apparently, every version of OS X from 10.6 on.


Ben

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Re: Control From Outside

2013-08-22 Thread Richard Gaskin

Mark Wieder wrote:

Mike-

Wednesday, August 21, 2013, 7:56:25 PM, you wrote:


I'm doing this on Windoze


In that case, stderr will go directly to the console, while stdout
needs to be caught with redirection.


Mark, is this inconsistency between the Linux and Win builds a bug in LC 
or a bug in Windows?


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Re: html tags recognized by htmlText

2013-08-22 Thread Richard Gaskin

Peter Haworth wrote:

How do you find this stuff!  Seems there's a whole genre of similar Youtube
clips.


Jeanne DeVoto turned me on to those.  Every now and then someone makes 
another, and the git one popped up on my G+ feed recently.


Internet traffic is divided in four equal parts: spam, Hitler find out 
about... video, cat pictures, and everything else. :)


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On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Richard Gaskin
ambassador at fourthworld.comwrote:


Peter Haworth wrote:

 Mark,


You said:

Best thing to do is fork the repository, git clone it locally, make


your changes, push them, and submit a pull request.



I heard :

Best thing to do is jwehf KJHFKHFTYL *%*%$$$ kjdkhdkjhd pull request

:-)



Cut to Godwin's Law:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=CDeG4S-mJtshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDeG4S-mJts

:)



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Re: Control From Outside

2013-08-22 Thread Richard Gaskin

Mike Kerner wrote:

Richard,
$# causes the script editor to mark the rest of the line as a comment.  $#
still works?


The token works well, so that would be a bug - reported:
http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11122

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Re: Control From Outside

2013-08-22 Thread Mike Kerner
See my reply on the bug report.


On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Richard Gaskin
ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote:

 Mike Kerner wrote:

 Richard,
 $# causes the script editor to mark the rest of the line as a comment.  $#
 still works?


 The token works well, so that would be a bug - reported:
 http://quality.runrev.com/**show_bug.cgi?id=11122http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11122
 


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Re: Post command help

2013-08-22 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 8/22/13 12:21 PM, Ben Rubinstein wrote:

On 24/06/2013 16:28, Thierry Douez wrote:

2013/6/24 J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com

It sounds like the issue only occurs on OS X 10.6, right? Mac 10.7+ and
Windows machines are not affected? Do you know?



​Umm, it's not working on Mac 10.7.5 right now on my box.



And it's not working on Mac 10.8.4 on mine.

Meanwhile the entire item that Thierry quoted has vanished from the
release notes.

And libUrlSetSSLVerification, mentioned (I think) in Thierry's response
from RunRev support, does not appear in any documentation that I can find.

I've added a bug report to the QCC (#11121) to reflect the fact that
this remains a bug in, apparently, every version of OS X from 10.6 on.


Just to add another data point, my client is running 10.8.x and I'm 
running 10.7.5 and https is working okay for both of us. So it doesn't 
seem to be universal.


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Re: Post command help

2013-08-22 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 8/22/13 12:21 PM, Ben Rubinstein wrote:


And libUrlSetSSLVerification, mentioned (I think) in Thierry's response
from RunRev support, does not appear in any documentation that I can find.


I just found it in the SSLCertificates entry in the dictionary. The info 
should probably also be cross-referenced in the (missing) 
libURLSetSSLVerification entry when/if it gets added.


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[ANN] Library for scripting MS Excel with LC - Beta Testers needed

2013-08-22 Thread zryip theSlug
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Finding the calling code/object/script?

2013-08-22 Thread Dr. Hawkins
Is there a way to work back up a message to see where a command originated?

I am trying to trap a message that used to be valid in my code, that
isn't.  Earlier versions allowed this message to go straight to a
field.

So a send someCommand to fld abc is no longer valid; it must now
come in the context of someCommand arguments in the code.

Is there a way inside of the handler of someCommand to find out whow
it was invoked?

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Re: Finding the calling code/object/script?

2013-08-22 Thread Mark Schonewille

Richard,

The executionContexts contains a list of all handlers and objects that 
called one of the handlers in the current chain.


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On 8/22/2013 21:44, Dr. Hawkins wrote:

Is there a way to work back up a message to see where a command originated?

I am trying to trap a message that used to be valid in my code, that
isn't.  Earlier versions allowed this message to go straight to a
field.

So a send someCommand to fld abc is no longer valid; it must now
come in the context of someCommand arguments in the code.

Is there a way inside of the handler of someCommand to find out whow
it was invoked?



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Re: Finding the calling code/object/script?

2013-08-22 Thread Scott Rossi
You might try the executionContexts property (may still be undocumented).

Use this after executing something: put the executionContexts

Shows the objects that handled messages
.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX/UI Design




On 8/22/13 12:44 PM, Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com wrote:

Is there a way to work back up a message to see where a command
originated?

I am trying to trap a message that used to be valid in my code, that
isn't.  Earlier versions allowed this message to go straight to a
field.

So a send someCommand to fld abc is no longer valid; it must now
come in the context of someCommand arguments in the code.

Is there a way inside of the handler of someCommand to find out whow
it was invoked?

-- 
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(702) 508-8462

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Re: Finding the calling code/object/script?

2013-08-22 Thread dunbarx
What Mark and Scott said.


Just a comment about documentation. The dictionary says clearly, though it was 
not findable by me until I knew what property to look for:




A common use of the executionContexts is to obtain the name of the object and 
handler that called the current handler, this information is available as: line 
-2 of the executionContexts.


Craig


-Original Message-
From: Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com
To: LiveCode Mail List use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Thu, Aug 22, 2013 4:38 pm
Subject: Re: Finding the calling code/object/script?


You might try the executionContexts property (may still be undocumented).

Use this after executing something: put the executionContexts

Shows the objects that handled messages
.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX/UI Design




On 8/22/13 12:44 PM, Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com wrote:

Is there a way to work back up a message to see where a command
originated?

I am trying to trap a message that used to be valid in my code, that
isn't.  Earlier versions allowed this message to go straight to a
field.

So a send someCommand to fld abc is no longer valid; it must now
come in the context of someCommand arguments in the code.

Is there a way inside of the handler of someCommand to find out whow
it was invoked?

-- 
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(702) 508-8462

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Re: Finding the calling code/object/script?

2013-08-22 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Mark Schonewille
m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote:

 The executionContexts contains a list of all handlers and objects that
 called one of the handlers in the current chain.

That is just perfect!

word 1 of line 1 of the executionContexts is field

when this happens!

Thank you so much.
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Re: Finding the calling code/object/script?

2013-08-22 Thread Peter Haworth
Check out the executionContexts - it will give you a trace back of the
calling hierarchy.

Pete
lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com


On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is there a way to work back up a message to see where a command originated?

 I am trying to trap a message that used to be valid in my code, that
 isn't.  Earlier versions allowed this message to go straight to a
 field.

 So a send someCommand to fld abc is no longer valid; it must now
 come in the context of someCommand arguments in the code.

 Is there a way inside of the handler of someCommand to find out whow
 it was invoked?

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 (702) 508-8462

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Re: html tags recognized by htmlText

2013-08-22 Thread Mark Wieder
Pete-

Thursday, August 22, 2013, 10:21:57 AM, you wrote:

 I did indeed and thanks for the link.  Even though I didn't understand your
 instructions, I was able to download the dictionary editor stack and look
 forward to checking out how the dictionary works and its structure.

Yeah, good luck with that. Bjornke understands that stuff better than
most folks, and he can probably chime in here with a rant of his own.

For my part, all I wanted to do was edit/create some doc files for the
engine changes I had made, and I got Mark Waddingham to post the
editor the team uses because a) I wasn't going to edit the xml by
hand, b) I didn't have a way of viewing the results of editing the
xml, and c) I don't know the xml format. The format isn't documented
anywhere, there are xml tags like glossary that don't seem to be
editable, but somehow they're in there and I don't know what they do.
The xml format itself seems pretty bad, but it's tightly coupled to
the doc files that get generated from it, so it's not likely to
change.

Meanwhile Bjornke has come up with a way to convert the doc files into
a SQLite database, and that makes it faster, more maintainable, easier
to use, and more flexible. Unfortunately his converter doesn't work on
linux, but the resulting database is cross-platform.

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Re: Control From Outside

2013-08-22 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard-

Thursday, August 22, 2013, 10:38:15 AM, you wrote:

 Mark, is this inconsistency between the Linux and Win builds a bug in LC
 or a bug in Windows?

Microsoft knows what's best for you better than you do.
Who told you you could question authority?

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Re: Finding the calling code/object/script?

2013-08-22 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 8/22/13 3:57 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote:

On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Mark Schonewille
m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote:


The executionContexts contains a list of all handlers and objects that
called one of the handlers in the current chain.


That is just perfect!

 word 1 of line 1 of the executionContexts is field

when this happens!

Thank you so much.



If this is just for debugging, you don't need to script it. Set a 
breakpoint, and the executionContexts appear in a popdown button at the 
top of the script editor. You can use that to backtrack through the 
script to see what called what.


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Re: html tags recognized by htmlText

2013-08-22 Thread Peter Haworth
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote:

 Meanwhile Bjornke has come up with a way to convert the doc files into
 a SQLite database, and that makes it faster, more maintainable, easier
 to use, and more flexible. Unfortunately his converter doesn't work on
 linux, but the resulting database is cross-platform.


Yes, I use Docu 2 almost exclusively in place of the built in dictionary
and have looked at Bjornke's code that builds the database.  The dictionary
format looks to be, shall we say, interesting.

Out of interest why doesn't the convertor work on Linux?

Pete
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Re: html tags recognized by htmlText

2013-08-22 Thread Mark Wieder
Pete-

Thursday, August 22, 2013, 4:15:29 PM, you wrote:

 Yes, I use Docu 2 almost exclusively in place of the built in dictionary
 and have looked at Bjornke's code that builds the database.  The dictionary
 format looks to be, shall we say, interesting.

ROTFL

 Out of interest why doesn't the convertor work on Linux?

Off the top of my head I forget, but I think I remember something
about assumptions about where files will end up. And probably
permissions problems as well. I started looking at changing the code
and then realized it was easier to be lazy and just do the conversion
on OSX.

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Re: OT - Re: Windows standalone puzzle

2013-08-22 Thread Kay C Lan
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Alex Tweedly a...@tweedly.net wrote:

  I'd see 'flash suppression' (if it could be done properly) as a similar
 attempt to allow more people to watch a particular clip.


Where I live they've used 'flash suppression' for longer than I can
remember. My kids have never seen or ever likely to see a stray penis
across a football pitch. The TV stations here seem to have flash
suppression down to a fine art;-) But I do seem to remember a SuperBowl not
long back that got all controversial because of a flash that wasn't
suppressed, so maybe in the States they need to upgrade their software.
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Re: Post command help

2013-08-22 Thread Thierry Douez
Hi Jacque,


 It sounds like the issue only occurs on OS X 10.6, right? Mac 10.7+ and
 Windows machines are not affected? Do you know?



 ​Umm, it's not working on Mac 10.7.5 right now on my box.


 And it's not working on Mac 10.8.4 on mine.

 Meanwhile the entire item that Thierry quoted has vanished from the
 release notes.

 And libUrlSetSSLVerification, mentioned (I think) in Thierry's response
 from RunRev support, does not appear in any documentation that I can find.

 I've added a bug report to the QCC (#11121) to reflect the fact that
 this remains a bug in, apparently, every version of OS X from 10.6 on.


 Just to add another data point, my client is running 10.8.x and I'm
 running 10.7.5 and https is working okay for both of us. So it doesn't seem
 to be universal.


​For the record,
it has been working for a while from time to time (same box, same code on
LC and server),
and suddenly stops!​



​If I remember well, you were setting ​
libUrlSetSSLVerification to false
?​


​Still true?​



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Re: Post command help

2013-08-22 Thread J. Landman Gay
Thierry Douez th.do...@gmail.com wrote:


​If I remember well, you were setting ​
libUrlSetSSLVerification to false
?​


​Still true?​

Actually I haven't set it to true yet, but after seeing the problem come up 
twice now I'm thinking maybe I should do the https check that Neil suggested 
when the app starts up , and if it fails I'll turn off verification.  But so 
far we haven't had any problems.  
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