Re: Searching XML with revXMLMatchingNode

2013-09-10 Thread Mark Wieder
Todd-

Monday, September 9, 2013, 4:08:30 PM, you wrote:

 My challenge is I have HUGE xml files.  250mb is not uncommon.

My condolences. XML is not fun for humans.

 If anyone has any experience in parsing very large files, I would love
 to hear about it.

Have you tried using SAX processing rather than DOM? You might lose
efficiency by not having the xml all in memory at once, but you might
gain by not having to create and parse the DOM tree.

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[ANN] Free update: ChartMaker 3.0 Build 61

2013-09-10 Thread FlexibleLearning.com
Version: 3.0
Build: 61
Release type: Maintenance

What's New in this build?

This is a free maintenance release that addresses the following issues...

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. Non-numeric data items should be evaluated as null values. This was broken
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Download the current release here for a free 30-day trial or use your
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Re: How much interest in OS X 10.8 user notifications is there?

2013-09-10 Thread Rick Harrison
Hi Monte,

Personally I strongly dislike notifications and wish
Apple had never made them part of the operating
system because I find them to be annoying when
I'm working.

Thanks for asking!

Rick

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 Hi Folks
 
 I'd like to gauge interest in a user notifications external for ML+. It would 
 allow you to present a notification and find out if the user clicked on it.
 
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Re: Searching XML with revXMLMatchingNode

2013-09-10 Thread Todd Geist

Hi Mark,

Can I do SAX processing with LiveCode?  Is that what is used if you 
send messages with revXML?


Todd

Mark Wieder wrote:

Todd-

Monday, September 9, 2013, 4:08:30 PM, you wrote:


My challenge is I have HUGE xml files.  250mb is not uncommon.


My condolences. XML is not fun for humans.


If anyone has any experience in parsing very large files, I would love
to hear about it.


Have you tried using SAX processing rather than DOM? You might lose
efficiency by not having the xml all in memory at once, but you might
gain by not having to create and parse the DOM tree.



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OT: Sparkleshare

2013-09-10 Thread Mark Wieder
Does anyone have any experience with Sparkleshare? We're looking into
it as an alternative to Dropbox, and since it's built on git, I'm
curious about how it handles multiuser issues like file conflicts.

http://sparkleshare.org/

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1080p video and livecode

2013-09-10 Thread Jeff Reynolds
Just curious if anyone is doing any 1080p video with livecode.

I've done some tests and had great playback with livecode. Curious how well it 
will hold up with playing for long periods.

702p seems to hold up very well with abuse in livecode.

thanks

jeff
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Re: Unwanted password protection

2013-09-10 Thread Graham Samuel
Thanks for the thought Andrew, but I just installed the very latest version of 
LC ( 6.1.1 rc 6) and the problem is still there. I understood that this version 
didn't have the problems reported earlier in this cycle. I guess I will have to 
report it as a bug unless anyone can explain the issue in the next few hours.

Graham


On 10 Sep 2013, at 19:09, Andrew Kluthe wrote:

 I don't use the newer versions of LC yet but wasn't there a stack
 corruption issue with earlier RC's of 6.1.1 ? Could it be related to this?
 
 
 On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Graham Samuel livf...@mac.com wrote:
 
 I'm feeling stupid, but I don't understand this:
 
 I'm using LC 6.1.1 (rc 4) on a Mac with Lion 10.7.5. I just opened a stack
 which I haven't opened for a couple of months, and I find that the scripts
 of all of its substacks and their cards are password protected - the
 mainstack isn't.
 
 I didn't do this, so how did it happen? This stuff is under development
 and at this stage I have no interest in protecting any scripts.
 
 I have another mainstack where this doesn't happen. The only obvious
 difference between the two is that the anomalous one has to be opened with
 messages suppressed to stop it running a script when it loads - I then
 switch messages back on as soon as the stack shows up. Not sure if this
 difference is meaningful, since even when I don't suppress messages, the
 substacks are still locked.
 
 Tried the same thing in LC 5.5.4 (the oldest version of LC I have on my
 machine) and nothing is locked.
 
 I have not been using LC for a bit  - did I miss something?
 
 Graham
 
 
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Re: Unwanted password protection

2013-09-10 Thread Richard Gaskin

Andrew Kluthe wrote:

I don't use the newer versions of LC yet but wasn't there a stack
corruption issue with earlier RC's of 6.1.1 ? Could it be related to this?


That issue was specific to v6.1.1rc5, and I believe it had to do with 
stacks containing BMP images stored using RLE compression, no?


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Re: Unwanted password protection

2013-09-10 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard-

Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 10:18:22 AM, you wrote:

 That issue was specific to v6.1.1rc5, and I believe it had to do with
 stacks containing BMP images stored using RLE compression, no?

And was pulled from the download site as soon as the issue was
reported.

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Re: Unwanted password protection

2013-09-10 Thread Graham Samuel
Well, it shows up here on rc5, and AFAIK there are no BMP images in the entire 
program. Will report it then. It doesn't seem to affect all my stacks, as I 
said earlier.

Graham

On 10 Sep 2013, at 19:18, Richard Gaskin wrote:

 Andrew Kluthe wrote:
 I don't use the newer versions of LC yet but wasn't there a stack
 corruption issue with earlier RC's of 6.1.1 ? Could it be related to this?
 
 That issue was specific to v6.1.1rc5, and I believe it had to do with stacks 
 containing BMP images stored using RLE compression, no?
 
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RE: Livecode and iOS 7

2013-09-10 Thread Ralph DiMola
OK I may have jumped the gun but it's still a little weird. I could not
install the dev version because the app was still installing from the
iStore(see below)

1) In App Store I can find the app.
2) The upper right button usually says Free if clicked then changes to
Install. Now that button has a picture of a gray cloud with a blue down
arrow where the Free button used to be.
3) If you click on the cloud it then changes to a blue circle with square in
the middle and a bar moves around the perimeter to indicate the download %
the app(I guess). THEN I get the Open button. Never is there an install or
free button.
4) Other apps(at least the few I looked at) still have a free button and
when clicked instantly changes to the install button.
5) IF you install a dev version after deleting the iTunes version (or
vice-versa), The icon of the iPad is the Large Application Icon from
iTunes connect until first launch of the app then the icon changes to the
standalone setting icon. This is very repeatable. 

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net


-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
Of Chris Sheffield
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 12:39 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Subject: Re: Livecode and iOS 7

Ralph,

I'm not seeing anything like that here. But I'm on an iPad 4, not 2. Not
really sure what to suggest. Do you get some kind of error when trying to
reinstall your app? You mention not being able to install from the App
Store. Can you not find your app there, or does it just not download
properly?

Wish I could help more. Seems like a strange problem, especially if your app
is already in the store and you're just trying to re-download it.

Chris


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wrote:

 I upgraded my iPad2 to iOS 7 latest pre-release version. Previously 
 installed LC apps seem to run OK. BUT... if you delete the app you 
 can't reinstall it from either the App Store or from iTunes. Is there 
 something I am Missing? Or do we need an update from LC?
 
 I'm using LC 6.1.1 rc2.
 Does rc6 fix this?
 
 Ralph DiMola
 IT Director
 Evergreen Information Services
 rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
 
 
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Re: 1080p video and livecode

2013-09-10 Thread stephen barncard
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Jeff Reynolds j...@siphonophore.comwrote:

 Just curious if anyone is doing any 1080p video with livecode.


1080p apparently didn't exist when the current video/audio library was
created. It's pretty old. The audio is limited to 48k and 16 bit, too.


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Re: Facebook authorisation on iOS

2013-09-10 Thread stephen barncard
Meanwhile Apple just UPGRADED my iTunes without asking or permission.
Nice. Bastards.

Oh right, I had to re-install the entire OSX because the 'new' Safari 6.1
can't be uninstalled.  I guess update is default automatic.


On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Gerry Orkin gerry.or...@gmail.com wrote:

 Mark, thanks. I've pretty much come to the same conclusion - I got it to
 work but it was slow and unreliable :) I'll roll my own email-based
 authentication method, I think.





 Gerry

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 On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 1:41 AM, Mark Wilcox m_p_wil...@yahoo.co.uk
 wrote:

  Hi Gerry,
  I don't know how Andre Garcia's library works but assume it's not using
 an external that wraps the Facebook SDK for iOS. From painful personal
 experience I'd advise against any attempt to access Facebook other than
 through the official SDKs or platform native interfaces (e.g. for sharing
 on iOS). I'd also suggest avoiding using the web/JavaScript SDK unless
 you're building a web app. Facebook has a move fast and break things
 culture and they regularly break their APIs. When you're using an official
 SDK (even wrapped) you share the pain with everyone else and it usually
 gets fixed very quickly. If you've got some community generated solution
 with a minimal number of users then you're almost on your own and every
 time it breaks you need to rush through an update to your app to fix it.
 Not even slightly fun.
  My experience came through trying to integrate with Facebook via native
 apps on platforms they don't provide official SDKs for - it was a mandatory
 requirement from the client and I didn't have a choice. If you have any
 other choice - take it. Either go down the external route or just don't use
 Facebook auth.
  FWIW, this is almost unique to Facebook, we didn't have similar problems
 integrating with other services.
  Hope that helps,
  Mark
  
   From: Gerry Orkin gerry.or...@gmail.com
  To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com; LiveCode
 Developer List livecode-...@lists.runrev.com
  Sent: Tuesday, 10 September 2013, 1:50
  Subject: Facebook authorisation on iOS
 
  Hi all
  As you know lots of sites and apps use Facebook authentication to verify
 user identities. I'm trying to get that working in iOS using Andre Garcia's
 Facebook library. I can get the FB sign on screen but the app always
 crashes after I enter my log in details. I'm having no luck debugging the
 problem :(
  Has anyone got this to work? Is it work persisting?
  Cheers
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Livecode and iOS 7

2013-09-10 Thread Ralph DiMola
I upgraded my iPad2 to iOS 7 latest pre-release version. Previously
installed LC apps seem to run OK. BUT... if you delete the app you can't
reinstall it from either the App Store or from iTunes. Is there something I
am Missing? Or do we need an update from LC?

I'm using LC 6.1.1 rc2.
Does rc6 fix this?

Ralph DiMola
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Re: What are the best programming fonts?

2013-09-10 Thread Mark Talluto
On Sep 10, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote:

 Slant has a post comparing different monospace fonts for coding.
 Source Code Pro, of course, comes out in front, but it's followed very
 closely by Consolas, which I'd never heard of, and then several
 others, similar but different. I've used Source Code Pro as my default
 font since it was released, and it looks great in the LiveCode script
 editor and in glx2.
 
 http://www.slant.co/topics/67/~what-are-the-best-programming-fonts

I have been using Inconsolata.  It works well for me.  I will take a look at 
this list and see what is up.


Best regards,

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Re: Livecode and iOS 7

2013-09-10 Thread Chris Sheffield
Ralph,

I'm not seeing anything like that here. But I'm on an iPad 4, not 2. Not really 
sure what to suggest. Do you get some kind of error when trying to reinstall 
your app? You mention not being able to install from the App Store. Can you not 
find your app there, or does it just not download properly?

Wish I could help more. Seems like a strange problem, especially if your app is 
already in the store and you're just trying to re-download it.

Chris


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On Sep 10, 2013, at 10:33 AM, Ralph DiMola rdim...@evergreeninfo.net wrote:

 I upgraded my iPad2 to iOS 7 latest pre-release version. Previously
 installed LC apps seem to run OK. BUT... if you delete the app you can't
 reinstall it from either the App Store or from iTunes. Is there something I
 am Missing? Or do we need an update from LC?
 
 I'm using LC 6.1.1 rc2.
 Does rc6 fix this?
 
 Ralph DiMola
 IT Director
 Evergreen Information Services
 rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
 
 
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Re: What are the best programming fonts?

2013-09-10 Thread stephen barncard
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.netwrote:

 I've used Source Code Pro as my default
 font since it was released, and it looks great in the LiveCode script
 editor and in glx2.


And it differentiates the number zero from letter O with a little dot!

http://www.google.com/fonts/specimen/Source+Code+Pro


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Re: Unwanted password protection

2013-09-10 Thread Graham Samuel
In preparing my stack for a bug report, I found the issue disappeared when I 
duplicated my stack and renamed it!! The original stack (unmodified in any 
other way and still in the same directory as the renamed one) still unfailingly 
exhibits the issue. Don't know whether to report it or not now.

Even more puzzled

Graham

On 10 Sep 2013, at 19:22, Mark Wieder wrote:

 Richard-
 
 Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 10:18:22 AM, you wrote:
 
 That issue was specific to v6.1.1rc5, and I believe it had to do with
 stacks containing BMP images stored using RLE compression, no?
 
 And was pulled from the download site as soon as the issue was
 reported.
 
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Re: Facebook authorisation on iOS

2013-09-10 Thread Mark Wilcox
Hi Gerry,

I don't know how Andre Garcia's library works but assume it's not using an 
external that wraps the Facebook SDK for iOS. From painful personal experience 
I'd advise against any attempt to access Facebook other than through the 
official SDKs or platform native interfaces (e.g. for sharing on iOS). I'd also 
suggest avoiding using the web/JavaScript SDK unless you're building a web app. 
Facebook has a move fast and break things culture and they regularly break 
their APIs. When you're using an official SDK (even wrapped) you share the pain 
with everyone else and it usually gets fixed very quickly. If you've got some 
community generated solution with a minimal number of users then you're almost 
on your own and every time it breaks you need to rush through an update to your 
app to fix it. Not even slightly fun.

My experience came through trying to integrate with Facebook via native apps on 
platforms they don't provide official SDKs for - it was a mandatory requirement 
from the client and I didn't have a choice. If you have any other choice - take 
it. Either go down the external route or just don't use Facebook auth.

FWIW, this is almost unique to Facebook, we didn't have similar problems 
integrating with other services.

Hope that helps,
Mark



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To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com; LiveCode Developer 
List livecode-...@lists.runrev.com 
Sent: Tuesday, 10 September 2013, 1:50
Subject: Facebook authorisation on iOS
 

Hi all

As you know lots of sites and apps use Facebook authentication to verify user 
identities. I'm trying to get that working in iOS using Andre Garcia's Facebook 
library. I can get the FB sign on screen but the app always crashes after I 
enter my log in details. I'm having no luck debugging the problem :(

Has anyone got this to work? Is it work persisting?


Cheers

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Re: OT: Sparkleshare

2013-09-10 Thread Andrew Kluthe
We are looking for a self-hosted dropbox alternative as well but the only
killer so far has been our need for a binary diff in it's syncing. It seems
not a lot of the services out there advertise that.

We use it to sync data to programs with spotty internet out in the field
and the ability to only upload the changed parts of a large json file
rather than the entire file is a kludgy lifesaver for us.


On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Björnke von Gierke b...@mac.com wrote:

 sounds like fun, but the advantage of dropbox is the free space, which
 this does not have, because you need to host it yourself. on the plus side,
 you'll be able to test it easily on github yourself :)

 On 10.09.2013, at 18:21, Mark Wieder wrote:

  Does anyone have any experience with Sparkleshare? We're looking into
  it as an alternative to Dropbox, and since it's built on git, I'm
  curious about how it handles multiuser issues like file conflicts.
 
  http://sparkleshare.org/
 
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Re: OT: Sparkleshare

2013-09-10 Thread Mark Wieder
Andrew-

Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 9:53:48 AM, you wrote:

 We are looking for a self-hosted dropbox alternative as well but the only
 killer so far has been our need for a binary diff in it's syncing. It seems
 not a lot of the services out there advertise that.

 We use it to sync data to programs with spotty internet out in the field
 and the ability to only upload the changed parts of a large json file
 rather than the entire file is a kludgy lifesaver for us.

Yeah, that pretty closely matches our situation. In our case we're
looking at (ugh) Outlook PST archives. We need something that will
figure out the deltas and get individual messages from the archives
without multiple copies of huge files, so binary diff is essential.

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Re: Livecode and iOS 7

2013-09-10 Thread Mike Kerner
I'm not having this issue, either, with any of the devices we're using
(ipad mini, iphone 4s, ipod touch 4g).


On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Ralph DiMola rdim...@evergreeninfo.netwrote:

 I upgraded my iPad2 to iOS 7 latest pre-release version. Previously
 installed LC apps seem to run OK. BUT... if you delete the app you can't
 reinstall it from either the App Store or from iTunes. Is there something I
 am Missing? Or do we need an update from LC?

 I'm using LC 6.1.1 rc2.
 Does rc6 fix this?

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 rdim...@evergreeninfo.net


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RE: What are the best programming fonts?

2013-09-10 Thread Paul D. DeRocco
 From: Mark Wieder
 
 Slant has a post comparing different monospace fonts for coding.
 Source Code Pro, of course, comes out in front, but it's followed very
 closely by Consolas, which I'd never heard of, and then several
 others, similar but different. I've used Source Code Pro as my default
 font since it was released, and it looks great in the LiveCode script
 editor and in glx2.
 
 http://www.slant.co/topics/67/~what-are-the-best-programming-fonts

I downloaded and tried most of them, and didn't like any as much as Lucida
Console, for one reason: Lucida Console has no excess vertical padding, so
even with fairly large characters, you get more lines of text in a
particular window size than with the others. If I knew how to edit that
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Re: OT: Sparkleshare

2013-09-10 Thread Andrew Kluthe
Mark, we haven't had any luck finding any other service that diffs in this
way. I have checked out most of the hosted and self-hosted and thus far
only found dropbox to work for us in this way. This software might actually
work very well for our situation (we are just syncing a MB or two of json
files), but since your PST files are likely very large (and definitely
binary?) it may seem like this wouldn't help you much with that.

Andrew


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 Andrew-

 Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 9:53:48 AM, you wrote:

  We are looking for a self-hosted dropbox alternative as well but the only
  killer so far has been our need for a binary diff in it's syncing. It
 seems
  not a lot of the services out there advertise that.

  We use it to sync data to programs with spotty internet out in the field
  and the ability to only upload the changed parts of a large json file
  rather than the entire file is a kludgy lifesaver for us.

 Yeah, that pretty closely matches our situation. In our case we're
 looking at (ugh) Outlook PST archives. We need something that will
 figure out the deltas and get individual messages from the archives
 without multiple copies of huge files, so binary diff is essential.

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Re: Livecode and iOS 7

2013-09-10 Thread Gerry Orkin
We can't currently install development versions of our apps on iOS 7 devices 
via xCode...correct?

Gerry



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Re: OT: Sparkleshare

2013-09-10 Thread Mark Wieder
Björnke-

Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 9:37:49 AM, you wrote:

 sounds like fun, but the advantage of dropbox is the free space,
 which this does not have, because you need to host it yourself. on
 the plus side, you'll be able to test it easily on github yourself :)

Well, that's the preferred way to use it, but it's also possible to
use a remote host that's already set up. Dropbox has a number of
disadvanges as well, which we're hoping to overcome.

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Unwanted password protection

2013-09-10 Thread Graham Samuel
I'm feeling stupid, but I don't understand this:

I'm using LC 6.1.1 (rc 4) on a Mac with Lion 10.7.5. I just opened a stack 
which I haven't opened for a couple of months, and I find that the scripts of 
all of its substacks and their cards are password protected - the mainstack 
isn't. 

I didn't do this, so how did it happen? This stuff is under development and at 
this stage I have no interest in protecting any scripts. 

I have another mainstack where this doesn't happen. The only obvious difference 
between the two is that the anomalous one has to be opened with messages 
suppressed to stop it running a script when it loads - I then switch messages 
back on as soon as the stack shows up. Not sure if this difference is 
meaningful, since even when I don't suppress messages, the substacks are still 
locked.

Tried the same thing in LC 5.5.4 (the oldest version of LC I have on my 
machine) and nothing is locked.

I have not been using LC for a bit  - did I miss something?

Graham


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Re: Facebook authorisation on iOS

2013-09-10 Thread Gerry Orkin
Mark, thanks. I've pretty much come to the same conclusion - I got it to work 
but it was slow and unreliable :) I'll roll my own email-based authentication 
method, I think. 


  


Gerry

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Sent from Mailbox for iPad

On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 1:41 AM, Mark Wilcox m_p_wil...@yahoo.co.uk
wrote:

 Hi Gerry,
 I don't know how Andre Garcia's library works but assume it's not using an 
 external that wraps the Facebook SDK for iOS. From painful personal 
 experience I'd advise against any attempt to access Facebook other than 
 through the official SDKs or platform native interfaces (e.g. for sharing on 
 iOS). I'd also suggest avoiding using the web/JavaScript SDK unless you're 
 building a web app. Facebook has a move fast and break things culture and 
 they regularly break their APIs. When you're using an official SDK (even 
 wrapped) you share the pain with everyone else and it usually gets fixed very 
 quickly. If you've got some community generated solution with a minimal 
 number of users then you're almost on your own and every time it breaks you 
 need to rush through an update to your app to fix it. Not even slightly fun.
 My experience came through trying to integrate with Facebook via native apps 
 on platforms they don't provide official SDKs for - it was a mandatory 
 requirement from the client and I didn't have a choice. If you have any other 
 choice - take it. Either go down the external route or just don't use 
 Facebook auth.
 FWIW, this is almost unique to Facebook, we didn't have similar problems 
 integrating with other services.
 Hope that helps,
 Mark
 
  From: Gerry Orkin gerry.or...@gmail.com
 To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com; LiveCode Developer 
 List livecode-...@lists.runrev.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, 10 September 2013, 1:50
 Subject: Facebook authorisation on iOS
  
 Hi all
 As you know lots of sites and apps use Facebook authentication to verify user 
 identities. I'm trying to get that working in iOS using Andre Garcia's 
 Facebook library. I can get the FB sign on screen but the app always crashes 
 after I enter my log in details. I'm having no luck debugging the problem :(
 Has anyone got this to work? Is it work persisting?
 Cheers
 Gerry
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Re: Unwanted password protection

2013-09-10 Thread Richard Gaskin

Graham Samuel wrote:

 In preparing my stack for a bug report, I found the issue disappeared
 when I duplicated my stack and renamed it!! The original stack
 (unmodified in any other way and still in the same directory as the
 renamed one) still unfailingly exhibits the issue. Don't know whether
 to report it or not now.

Now I have to wonder if the password was actually set (which would be an 
engine problem) or was erroneously flagged as having been set (an IDE 
problem).


Do you have the patience to set up a MetaCard install with v6.1.1 to see 
if it can open the original without issue?


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Re: Unwanted password protection

2013-09-10 Thread Andrew Kluthe
I don't use the newer versions of LC yet but wasn't there a stack
corruption issue with earlier RC's of 6.1.1 ? Could it be related to this?


On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Graham Samuel livf...@mac.com wrote:

 I'm feeling stupid, but I don't understand this:

 I'm using LC 6.1.1 (rc 4) on a Mac with Lion 10.7.5. I just opened a stack
 which I haven't opened for a couple of months, and I find that the scripts
 of all of its substacks and their cards are password protected - the
 mainstack isn't.

 I didn't do this, so how did it happen? This stuff is under development
 and at this stage I have no interest in protecting any scripts.

 I have another mainstack where this doesn't happen. The only obvious
 difference between the two is that the anomalous one has to be opened with
 messages suppressed to stop it running a script when it loads - I then
 switch messages back on as soon as the stack shows up. Not sure if this
 difference is meaningful, since even when I don't suppress messages, the
 substacks are still locked.

 Tried the same thing in LC 5.5.4 (the oldest version of LC I have on my
 machine) and nothing is locked.

 I have not been using LC for a bit  - did I miss something?

 Graham


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Re: Livecode and iOS 7

2013-09-10 Thread Chris Sheffield
Yes, this is how iOS 7 works now. If an app has been previously 
purchased/installed from the app store, it will become available in the 
cloud. In other words, it's downloadable again even if it's deleted from the 
device (actually, the app store has worked this way for a long time now; it 
just looks a little different under iOS 7). Anyway, the little cloud icon with 
the arrow pointing down simply indicates that it has already been purchased and 
can be downloaded and installed again. If the button says Free, that means it 
hasn't been previously purchased/installed.

HTH,
Chris

On Sep 10, 2013, at 1:23 PM, Ralph DiMola rdim...@evergreeninfo.net wrote:

 OK I may have jumped the gun but it's still a little weird. I could not
 install the dev version because the app was still installing from the
 iStore(see below)
 
 1) In App Store I can find the app.
 2) The upper right button usually says Free if clicked then changes to
 Install. Now that button has a picture of a gray cloud with a blue down
 arrow where the Free button used to be.
 3) If you click on the cloud it then changes to a blue circle with square in
 the middle and a bar moves around the perimeter to indicate the download %
 the app(I guess). THEN I get the Open button. Never is there an install or
 free button.
 4) Other apps(at least the few I looked at) still have a free button and
 when clicked instantly changes to the install button.
 5) IF you install a dev version after deleting the iTunes version (or
 vice-versa), The icon of the iPad is the Large Application Icon from
 iTunes connect until first launch of the app then the icon changes to the
 standalone setting icon. This is very repeatable. 
 
 Ralph DiMola
 IT Director
 Evergreen Information Services
 rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
 Of Chris Sheffield
 Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 12:39 PM
 To: How to use LiveCode
 Subject: Re: Livecode and iOS 7
 
 Ralph,
 
 I'm not seeing anything like that here. But I'm on an iPad 4, not 2. Not
 really sure what to suggest. Do you get some kind of error when trying to
 reinstall your app? You mention not being able to install from the App
 Store. Can you not find your app there, or does it just not download
 properly?
 
 Wish I could help more. Seems like a strange problem, especially if your app
 is already in the store and you're just trying to re-download it.
 
 Chris
 
 
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 On Sep 10, 2013, at 10:33 AM, Ralph DiMola rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
 wrote:
 
 I upgraded my iPad2 to iOS 7 latest pre-release version. Previously 
 installed LC apps seem to run OK. BUT... if you delete the app you 
 can't reinstall it from either the App Store or from iTunes. Is there 
 something I am Missing? Or do we need an update from LC?
 
 I'm using LC 6.1.1 rc2.
 Does rc6 fix this?
 
 Ralph DiMola
 IT Director
 Evergreen Information Services
 rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
 
 
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Re: OT: Sparkleshare

2013-09-10 Thread Björnke von Gierke
sounds like fun, but the advantage of dropbox is the free space, which this 
does not have, because you need to host it yourself. on the plus side, you'll 
be able to test it easily on github yourself :)

On 10.09.2013, at 18:21, Mark Wieder wrote:

 Does anyone have any experience with Sparkleshare? We're looking into
 it as an alternative to Dropbox, and since it's built on git, I'm
 curious about how it handles multiuser issues like file conflicts.
 
 http://sparkleshare.org/
 
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Re: Unwanted password protection

2013-09-10 Thread Mark Wieder
Graham-

Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 10:42:28 AM, you wrote:

 In preparing my stack for a bug report, I found the issue
 disappeared when I duplicated my stack and renamed it!! The original
 stack (unmodified in any other way and still in the same directory
 as the renamed one) still unfailingly exhibits the issue. Don't know
 whether to report it or not now.

 Even more puzzled

Yeah, that's weird. I'd report it and include at least the original
one with the problem.

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Re: What are the best programming fonts?

2013-09-10 Thread stephen barncard
download

http://sourceforge.net/projects/sourcecodepro.adobe/?source=dlp


On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 12:36 PM, stephen barncard 
stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote:


 On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.netwrote:

 I've used Source Code Pro as my default
 font since it was released, and it looks great in the LiveCode script
 editor and in glx2.


 And it differentiates the number zero from letter O with a little dot!

 http://www.google.com/fonts/specimen/Source+Code+Pro


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Re: How much interest in OS X 10.8 user notifications is there?

2013-09-10 Thread Klaus major-k
Hi Rick,

Am 10.09.2013 um 15:52 schrieb Rick Harrison harri...@all-auctions.com:

 Hi Monte,
 
 Personally I strongly dislike notifications and wish
 Apple had never made them part of the operating
 system because I find them to be annoying when
 I'm working.

oh well, if we only had the chance to turn that off in the system prefs, 
maybe even separately for each app.  8-)

 Thanks for asking!
 
 Rick

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Re: [OT] SmartWatches

2013-09-10 Thread Alex Tweedly

On 07/09/2013 22:07, Peter Haworth wrote:

Just curious - is anyone rushing out to buy one of these things?
No, not rushing out to buy one now. In fact, I'd say the likelihood of 
me buying one within 2 years is just about 0%. But within 10 years ? - 
probably 50%.


Indeed, I think within 5 years the capability will exist to build a 
smartwatch that I would very much like to have - though whether it will 
be within my price range is another question. And of course my wish-list 
may be so different from what the manufacturers want to build that I 
never get one.


My needs (and/or desires)

1. Robust.
   - at least 10m water resistant or I won't even consider it; in 
practice 1 meter would be enough for me - but I probably wouldn't feel 
safe buying it unless it was safe for at least 10m.
   - wide operating temp range (Yes, I do sometimes sleep in a tent 
below -5C)
   - somewhere near to as scratch-, bang- and knock-resistant as my 
current mechanical watch


2. Power. Ideally auto-powered (cf Citizen self-winding quartz watches), 
but I'd settle for 24 hour battery life and easy charging (i.e. 
non-contact) on my bedside table within 2 hours.


3. Close to size/weight limits of reasonable mech watch

4. Voice activated for at least some functionality (yes, I know, I have 
a Scottish accent, so this will be a source of great frustration much of 
the time :-) http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/collections/p00hvv42


5. Good apps for mail, voice calls, browsing, calendar, etc.   - need 
quite a bit of improvement and/or adjustment from current phone/tablet 
versions.


6. Significant progress in availability and use of sensor and remote 
control apps. (e.g. TV / radio remote, walkie/talkie over wifi to other 
family members, etc.)


Given those as a minimum (and a huge wish list to go along with them), 
I'd be a customer.


Of course most of those could be done by your phone. But apart from my 
wedding ring, my watch is the *only* thing that goes everywhere with me 
- even the phone gets either accidentally left behind (or mislaid) 
sometimes, and it does occasionally get left behind deliberately. Having 
a watch that could replace 85% of the function (even if only 50% of the 
convenience) would make it possible to leave it behind more often. A 
phone is (today) still too heavy, intrusive and fragile


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What are the best programming fonts?

2013-09-10 Thread Mark Wieder
Slant has a post comparing different monospace fonts for coding.
Source Code Pro, of course, comes out in front, but it's followed very
closely by Consolas, which I'd never heard of, and then several
others, similar but different. I've used Source Code Pro as my default
font since it was released, and it looks great in the LiveCode script
editor and in glx2.

http://www.slant.co/topics/67/~what-are-the-best-programming-fonts

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RE: Livecode and iOS 7

2013-09-10 Thread Ralph DiMola
I did not know that the app was currently loading from the app store(new
iOS7 confusion) when I tried to load up the same app with a dev certificate
from iTunes. At that point iTunes did nothing. When I the deleted the app
and tried from iTunes with dev certificate, all worked OK.

It was the keyboard actuator causing the problem.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net

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Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 8:57 PM
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Subject: Re: Livecode and iOS 7

We can't currently install development versions of our apps on iOS 7 devices
via xCode...correct?

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Re: Livecode and iOS 7

2013-09-10 Thread Gerry Orkin
I wrote:

 We can't currently install development versions of our apps on iOS 7 devices 
 via xCode...correct?

Incorrect. I've just installed the iOS 7 GM and I can install development apps 
with no problem at all using Monte's MergTestApp.

Whoop de doo!

Gerry
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