Re: Searching XML with revXMLMatchingNode
Todd- Monday, September 9, 2013, 4:08:30 PM, you wrote: My challenge is I have HUGE xml files. 250mb is not uncommon. My condolences. XML is not fun for humans. If anyone has any experience in parsing very large files, I would love to hear about it. Have you tried using SAX processing rather than DOM? You might lose efficiency by not having the xml all in memory at once, but you might gain by not having to create and parse the DOM tree. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
[ANN] Free update: ChartMaker 3.0 Build 61
Version: 3.0 Build: 61 Release type: Maintenance What's New in this build? This is a free maintenance release that addresses the following issues... Fixed . Non-numeric data items should be evaluated as null values. This was broken in Build 60 and is now restored. Download the current release here for a free 30-day trial or use your existing key to update: http://www.flexiblelearning.com/chartmaker/versioning/whatsnew.htm or from http://livecode.com/store/marketplace/chartmaker/ Note that as a professional product, ChartMaker requires LiveCode Commercial. However, specific circumstances will be considered for developers who require maintainence access for their clients. Hugh Senior FLCo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: How much interest in OS X 10.8 user notifications is there?
Hi Monte, Personally I strongly dislike notifications and wish Apple had never made them part of the operating system because I find them to be annoying when I'm working. Thanks for asking! Rick On Sep 9, 2013, at 7:33 PM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: Hi Folks I'd like to gauge interest in a user notifications external for ML+. It would allow you to present a notification and find out if the user clicked on it. Cheers -- M E R Goulding Software development services Bespoke application development for vertical markets mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Searching XML with revXMLMatchingNode
Hi Mark, Can I do SAX processing with LiveCode? Is that what is used if you send messages with revXML? Todd Mark Wieder wrote: Todd- Monday, September 9, 2013, 4:08:30 PM, you wrote: My challenge is I have HUGE xml files. 250mb is not uncommon. My condolences. XML is not fun for humans. If anyone has any experience in parsing very large files, I would love to hear about it. Have you tried using SAX processing rather than DOM? You might lose efficiency by not having the xml all in memory at once, but you might gain by not having to create and parse the DOM tree. -- Todd Geist geist interactive http://www.geistinteractive.com 800-935-6068 GoDraw http://www.geistinteractive.com/godraw - Draw on Photos with FileMaker Go ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
OT: Sparkleshare
Does anyone have any experience with Sparkleshare? We're looking into it as an alternative to Dropbox, and since it's built on git, I'm curious about how it handles multiuser issues like file conflicts. http://sparkleshare.org/ -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
1080p video and livecode
Just curious if anyone is doing any 1080p video with livecode. I've done some tests and had great playback with livecode. Curious how well it will hold up with playing for long periods. 702p seems to hold up very well with abuse in livecode. thanks jeff ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Unwanted password protection
Thanks for the thought Andrew, but I just installed the very latest version of LC ( 6.1.1 rc 6) and the problem is still there. I understood that this version didn't have the problems reported earlier in this cycle. I guess I will have to report it as a bug unless anyone can explain the issue in the next few hours. Graham On 10 Sep 2013, at 19:09, Andrew Kluthe wrote: I don't use the newer versions of LC yet but wasn't there a stack corruption issue with earlier RC's of 6.1.1 ? Could it be related to this? On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Graham Samuel livf...@mac.com wrote: I'm feeling stupid, but I don't understand this: I'm using LC 6.1.1 (rc 4) on a Mac with Lion 10.7.5. I just opened a stack which I haven't opened for a couple of months, and I find that the scripts of all of its substacks and their cards are password protected - the mainstack isn't. I didn't do this, so how did it happen? This stuff is under development and at this stage I have no interest in protecting any scripts. I have another mainstack where this doesn't happen. The only obvious difference between the two is that the anomalous one has to be opened with messages suppressed to stop it running a script when it loads - I then switch messages back on as soon as the stack shows up. Not sure if this difference is meaningful, since even when I don't suppress messages, the substacks are still locked. Tried the same thing in LC 5.5.4 (the oldest version of LC I have on my machine) and nothing is locked. I have not been using LC for a bit - did I miss something? Graham ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Andrew Kluthe and...@ctech.me ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Unwanted password protection
Andrew Kluthe wrote: I don't use the newer versions of LC yet but wasn't there a stack corruption issue with earlier RC's of 6.1.1 ? Could it be related to this? That issue was specific to v6.1.1rc5, and I believe it had to do with stacks containing BMP images stored using RLE compression, no? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Unwanted password protection
Richard- Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 10:18:22 AM, you wrote: That issue was specific to v6.1.1rc5, and I believe it had to do with stacks containing BMP images stored using RLE compression, no? And was pulled from the download site as soon as the issue was reported. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Unwanted password protection
Well, it shows up here on rc5, and AFAIK there are no BMP images in the entire program. Will report it then. It doesn't seem to affect all my stacks, as I said earlier. Graham On 10 Sep 2013, at 19:18, Richard Gaskin wrote: Andrew Kluthe wrote: I don't use the newer versions of LC yet but wasn't there a stack corruption issue with earlier RC's of 6.1.1 ? Could it be related to this? That issue was specific to v6.1.1rc5, and I believe it had to do with stacks containing BMP images stored using RLE compression, no? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Livecode and iOS 7
OK I may have jumped the gun but it's still a little weird. I could not install the dev version because the app was still installing from the iStore(see below) 1) In App Store I can find the app. 2) The upper right button usually says Free if clicked then changes to Install. Now that button has a picture of a gray cloud with a blue down arrow where the Free button used to be. 3) If you click on the cloud it then changes to a blue circle with square in the middle and a bar moves around the perimeter to indicate the download % the app(I guess). THEN I get the Open button. Never is there an install or free button. 4) Other apps(at least the few I looked at) still have a free button and when clicked instantly changes to the install button. 5) IF you install a dev version after deleting the iTunes version (or vice-versa), The icon of the iPad is the Large Application Icon from iTunes connect until first launch of the app then the icon changes to the standalone setting icon. This is very repeatable. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Chris Sheffield Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 12:39 PM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: Livecode and iOS 7 Ralph, I'm not seeing anything like that here. But I'm on an iPad 4, not 2. Not really sure what to suggest. Do you get some kind of error when trying to reinstall your app? You mention not being able to install from the App Store. Can you not find your app there, or does it just not download properly? Wish I could help more. Seems like a strange problem, especially if your app is already in the store and you're just trying to re-download it. Chris -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com On Sep 10, 2013, at 10:33 AM, Ralph DiMola rdim...@evergreeninfo.net wrote: I upgraded my iPad2 to iOS 7 latest pre-release version. Previously installed LC apps seem to run OK. BUT... if you delete the app you can't reinstall it from either the App Store or from iTunes. Is there something I am Missing? Or do we need an update from LC? I'm using LC 6.1.1 rc2. Does rc6 fix this? Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: 1080p video and livecode
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Jeff Reynolds j...@siphonophore.comwrote: Just curious if anyone is doing any 1080p video with livecode. 1080p apparently didn't exist when the current video/audio library was created. It's pretty old. The audio is limited to 48k and 16 bit, too. -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Facebook authorisation on iOS
Meanwhile Apple just UPGRADED my iTunes without asking or permission. Nice. Bastards. Oh right, I had to re-install the entire OSX because the 'new' Safari 6.1 can't be uninstalled. I guess update is default automatic. On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Gerry Orkin gerry.or...@gmail.com wrote: Mark, thanks. I've pretty much come to the same conclusion - I got it to work but it was slow and unreliable :) I'll roll my own email-based authentication method, I think. Gerry — Sent from Mailbox for iPad On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 1:41 AM, Mark Wilcox m_p_wil...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi Gerry, I don't know how Andre Garcia's library works but assume it's not using an external that wraps the Facebook SDK for iOS. From painful personal experience I'd advise against any attempt to access Facebook other than through the official SDKs or platform native interfaces (e.g. for sharing on iOS). I'd also suggest avoiding using the web/JavaScript SDK unless you're building a web app. Facebook has a move fast and break things culture and they regularly break their APIs. When you're using an official SDK (even wrapped) you share the pain with everyone else and it usually gets fixed very quickly. If you've got some community generated solution with a minimal number of users then you're almost on your own and every time it breaks you need to rush through an update to your app to fix it. Not even slightly fun. My experience came through trying to integrate with Facebook via native apps on platforms they don't provide official SDKs for - it was a mandatory requirement from the client and I didn't have a choice. If you have any other choice - take it. Either go down the external route or just don't use Facebook auth. FWIW, this is almost unique to Facebook, we didn't have similar problems integrating with other services. Hope that helps, Mark From: Gerry Orkin gerry.or...@gmail.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com; LiveCode Developer List livecode-...@lists.runrev.com Sent: Tuesday, 10 September 2013, 1:50 Subject: Facebook authorisation on iOS Hi all As you know lots of sites and apps use Facebook authentication to verify user identities. I'm trying to get that working in iOS using Andre Garcia's Facebook library. I can get the FB sign on screen but the app always crashes after I enter my log in details. I'm having no luck debugging the problem :( Has anyone got this to work? Is it work persisting? Cheers Gerry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Livecode and iOS 7
I upgraded my iPad2 to iOS 7 latest pre-release version. Previously installed LC apps seem to run OK. BUT... if you delete the app you can't reinstall it from either the App Store or from iTunes. Is there something I am Missing? Or do we need an update from LC? I'm using LC 6.1.1 rc2. Does rc6 fix this? Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: What are the best programming fonts?
On Sep 10, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Slant has a post comparing different monospace fonts for coding. Source Code Pro, of course, comes out in front, but it's followed very closely by Consolas, which I'd never heard of, and then several others, similar but different. I've used Source Code Pro as my default font since it was released, and it looks great in the LiveCode script editor and in glx2. http://www.slant.co/topics/67/~what-are-the-best-programming-fonts I have been using Inconsolata. It works well for me. I will take a look at this list and see what is up. Best regards, Mark Talluto canelasoftware.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Livecode and iOS 7
Ralph, I'm not seeing anything like that here. But I'm on an iPad 4, not 2. Not really sure what to suggest. Do you get some kind of error when trying to reinstall your app? You mention not being able to install from the App Store. Can you not find your app there, or does it just not download properly? Wish I could help more. Seems like a strange problem, especially if your app is already in the store and you're just trying to re-download it. Chris -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com On Sep 10, 2013, at 10:33 AM, Ralph DiMola rdim...@evergreeninfo.net wrote: I upgraded my iPad2 to iOS 7 latest pre-release version. Previously installed LC apps seem to run OK. BUT... if you delete the app you can't reinstall it from either the App Store or from iTunes. Is there something I am Missing? Or do we need an update from LC? I'm using LC 6.1.1 rc2. Does rc6 fix this? Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: What are the best programming fonts?
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.netwrote: I've used Source Code Pro as my default font since it was released, and it looks great in the LiveCode script editor and in glx2. And it differentiates the number zero from letter O with a little dot! http://www.google.com/fonts/specimen/Source+Code+Pro -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Unwanted password protection
In preparing my stack for a bug report, I found the issue disappeared when I duplicated my stack and renamed it!! The original stack (unmodified in any other way and still in the same directory as the renamed one) still unfailingly exhibits the issue. Don't know whether to report it or not now. Even more puzzled Graham On 10 Sep 2013, at 19:22, Mark Wieder wrote: Richard- Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 10:18:22 AM, you wrote: That issue was specific to v6.1.1rc5, and I believe it had to do with stacks containing BMP images stored using RLE compression, no? And was pulled from the download site as soon as the issue was reported. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Facebook authorisation on iOS
Hi Gerry, I don't know how Andre Garcia's library works but assume it's not using an external that wraps the Facebook SDK for iOS. From painful personal experience I'd advise against any attempt to access Facebook other than through the official SDKs or platform native interfaces (e.g. for sharing on iOS). I'd also suggest avoiding using the web/JavaScript SDK unless you're building a web app. Facebook has a move fast and break things culture and they regularly break their APIs. When you're using an official SDK (even wrapped) you share the pain with everyone else and it usually gets fixed very quickly. If you've got some community generated solution with a minimal number of users then you're almost on your own and every time it breaks you need to rush through an update to your app to fix it. Not even slightly fun. My experience came through trying to integrate with Facebook via native apps on platforms they don't provide official SDKs for - it was a mandatory requirement from the client and I didn't have a choice. If you have any other choice - take it. Either go down the external route or just don't use Facebook auth. FWIW, this is almost unique to Facebook, we didn't have similar problems integrating with other services. Hope that helps, Mark From: Gerry Orkin gerry.or...@gmail.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com; LiveCode Developer List livecode-...@lists.runrev.com Sent: Tuesday, 10 September 2013, 1:50 Subject: Facebook authorisation on iOS Hi all As you know lots of sites and apps use Facebook authentication to verify user identities. I'm trying to get that working in iOS using Andre Garcia's Facebook library. I can get the FB sign on screen but the app always crashes after I enter my log in details. I'm having no luck debugging the problem :( Has anyone got this to work? Is it work persisting? Cheers Gerry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT: Sparkleshare
We are looking for a self-hosted dropbox alternative as well but the only killer so far has been our need for a binary diff in it's syncing. It seems not a lot of the services out there advertise that. We use it to sync data to programs with spotty internet out in the field and the ability to only upload the changed parts of a large json file rather than the entire file is a kludgy lifesaver for us. On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Björnke von Gierke b...@mac.com wrote: sounds like fun, but the advantage of dropbox is the free space, which this does not have, because you need to host it yourself. on the plus side, you'll be able to test it easily on github yourself :) On 10.09.2013, at 18:21, Mark Wieder wrote: Does anyone have any experience with Sparkleshare? We're looking into it as an alternative to Dropbox, and since it's built on git, I'm curious about how it handles multiuser issues like file conflicts. http://sparkleshare.org/ -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Use an alternative Dictionary viewer: http://bjoernke.com/bvgdocu/ Chat with other RunRev developers: http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Andrew Kluthe and...@ctech.me ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT: Sparkleshare
Andrew- Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 9:53:48 AM, you wrote: We are looking for a self-hosted dropbox alternative as well but the only killer so far has been our need for a binary diff in it's syncing. It seems not a lot of the services out there advertise that. We use it to sync data to programs with spotty internet out in the field and the ability to only upload the changed parts of a large json file rather than the entire file is a kludgy lifesaver for us. Yeah, that pretty closely matches our situation. In our case we're looking at (ugh) Outlook PST archives. We need something that will figure out the deltas and get individual messages from the archives without multiple copies of huge files, so binary diff is essential. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Livecode and iOS 7
I'm not having this issue, either, with any of the devices we're using (ipad mini, iphone 4s, ipod touch 4g). On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Ralph DiMola rdim...@evergreeninfo.netwrote: I upgraded my iPad2 to iOS 7 latest pre-release version. Previously installed LC apps seem to run OK. BUT... if you delete the app you can't reinstall it from either the App Store or from iTunes. Is there something I am Missing? Or do we need an update from LC? I'm using LC 6.1.1 rc2. Does rc6 fix this? Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: What are the best programming fonts?
From: Mark Wieder Slant has a post comparing different monospace fonts for coding. Source Code Pro, of course, comes out in front, but it's followed very closely by Consolas, which I'd never heard of, and then several others, similar but different. I've used Source Code Pro as my default font since it was released, and it looks great in the LiveCode script editor and in glx2. http://www.slant.co/topics/67/~what-are-the-best-programming-fonts I downloaded and tried most of them, and didn't like any as much as Lucida Console, for one reason: Lucida Console has no excess vertical padding, so even with fairly large characters, you get more lines of text in a particular window size than with the others. If I knew how to edit that parameter in fonts, I might consider Source Code Pro. -- Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco Paulmailto:pdero...@ix.netcom.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT: Sparkleshare
Mark, we haven't had any luck finding any other service that diffs in this way. I have checked out most of the hosted and self-hosted and thus far only found dropbox to work for us in this way. This software might actually work very well for our situation (we are just syncing a MB or two of json files), but since your PST files are likely very large (and definitely binary?) it may seem like this wouldn't help you much with that. Andrew On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.netwrote: Andrew- Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 9:53:48 AM, you wrote: We are looking for a self-hosted dropbox alternative as well but the only killer so far has been our need for a binary diff in it's syncing. It seems not a lot of the services out there advertise that. We use it to sync data to programs with spotty internet out in the field and the ability to only upload the changed parts of a large json file rather than the entire file is a kludgy lifesaver for us. Yeah, that pretty closely matches our situation. In our case we're looking at (ugh) Outlook PST archives. We need something that will figure out the deltas and get individual messages from the archives without multiple copies of huge files, so binary diff is essential. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Andrew Kluthe and...@ctech.me ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Livecode and iOS 7
We can't currently install development versions of our apps on iOS 7 devices via xCode...correct? Gerry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT: Sparkleshare
Björnke- Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 9:37:49 AM, you wrote: sounds like fun, but the advantage of dropbox is the free space, which this does not have, because you need to host it yourself. on the plus side, you'll be able to test it easily on github yourself :) Well, that's the preferred way to use it, but it's also possible to use a remote host that's already set up. Dropbox has a number of disadvanges as well, which we're hoping to overcome. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Unwanted password protection
I'm feeling stupid, but I don't understand this: I'm using LC 6.1.1 (rc 4) on a Mac with Lion 10.7.5. I just opened a stack which I haven't opened for a couple of months, and I find that the scripts of all of its substacks and their cards are password protected - the mainstack isn't. I didn't do this, so how did it happen? This stuff is under development and at this stage I have no interest in protecting any scripts. I have another mainstack where this doesn't happen. The only obvious difference between the two is that the anomalous one has to be opened with messages suppressed to stop it running a script when it loads - I then switch messages back on as soon as the stack shows up. Not sure if this difference is meaningful, since even when I don't suppress messages, the substacks are still locked. Tried the same thing in LC 5.5.4 (the oldest version of LC I have on my machine) and nothing is locked. I have not been using LC for a bit - did I miss something? Graham ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Facebook authorisation on iOS
Mark, thanks. I've pretty much come to the same conclusion - I got it to work but it was slow and unreliable :) I'll roll my own email-based authentication method, I think. Gerry — Sent from Mailbox for iPad On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 1:41 AM, Mark Wilcox m_p_wil...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi Gerry, I don't know how Andre Garcia's library works but assume it's not using an external that wraps the Facebook SDK for iOS. From painful personal experience I'd advise against any attempt to access Facebook other than through the official SDKs or platform native interfaces (e.g. for sharing on iOS). I'd also suggest avoiding using the web/JavaScript SDK unless you're building a web app. Facebook has a move fast and break things culture and they regularly break their APIs. When you're using an official SDK (even wrapped) you share the pain with everyone else and it usually gets fixed very quickly. If you've got some community generated solution with a minimal number of users then you're almost on your own and every time it breaks you need to rush through an update to your app to fix it. Not even slightly fun. My experience came through trying to integrate with Facebook via native apps on platforms they don't provide official SDKs for - it was a mandatory requirement from the client and I didn't have a choice. If you have any other choice - take it. Either go down the external route or just don't use Facebook auth. FWIW, this is almost unique to Facebook, we didn't have similar problems integrating with other services. Hope that helps, Mark From: Gerry Orkin gerry.or...@gmail.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com; LiveCode Developer List livecode-...@lists.runrev.com Sent: Tuesday, 10 September 2013, 1:50 Subject: Facebook authorisation on iOS Hi all As you know lots of sites and apps use Facebook authentication to verify user identities. I'm trying to get that working in iOS using Andre Garcia's Facebook library. I can get the FB sign on screen but the app always crashes after I enter my log in details. I'm having no luck debugging the problem :( Has anyone got this to work? Is it work persisting? Cheers Gerry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Unwanted password protection
Graham Samuel wrote: In preparing my stack for a bug report, I found the issue disappeared when I duplicated my stack and renamed it!! The original stack (unmodified in any other way and still in the same directory as the renamed one) still unfailingly exhibits the issue. Don't know whether to report it or not now. Now I have to wonder if the password was actually set (which would be an engine problem) or was erroneously flagged as having been set (an IDE problem). Do you have the patience to set up a MetaCard install with v6.1.1 to see if it can open the original without issue? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Unwanted password protection
I don't use the newer versions of LC yet but wasn't there a stack corruption issue with earlier RC's of 6.1.1 ? Could it be related to this? On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Graham Samuel livf...@mac.com wrote: I'm feeling stupid, but I don't understand this: I'm using LC 6.1.1 (rc 4) on a Mac with Lion 10.7.5. I just opened a stack which I haven't opened for a couple of months, and I find that the scripts of all of its substacks and their cards are password protected - the mainstack isn't. I didn't do this, so how did it happen? This stuff is under development and at this stage I have no interest in protecting any scripts. I have another mainstack where this doesn't happen. The only obvious difference between the two is that the anomalous one has to be opened with messages suppressed to stop it running a script when it loads - I then switch messages back on as soon as the stack shows up. Not sure if this difference is meaningful, since even when I don't suppress messages, the substacks are still locked. Tried the same thing in LC 5.5.4 (the oldest version of LC I have on my machine) and nothing is locked. I have not been using LC for a bit - did I miss something? Graham ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Andrew Kluthe and...@ctech.me ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Livecode and iOS 7
Yes, this is how iOS 7 works now. If an app has been previously purchased/installed from the app store, it will become available in the cloud. In other words, it's downloadable again even if it's deleted from the device (actually, the app store has worked this way for a long time now; it just looks a little different under iOS 7). Anyway, the little cloud icon with the arrow pointing down simply indicates that it has already been purchased and can be downloaded and installed again. If the button says Free, that means it hasn't been previously purchased/installed. HTH, Chris On Sep 10, 2013, at 1:23 PM, Ralph DiMola rdim...@evergreeninfo.net wrote: OK I may have jumped the gun but it's still a little weird. I could not install the dev version because the app was still installing from the iStore(see below) 1) In App Store I can find the app. 2) The upper right button usually says Free if clicked then changes to Install. Now that button has a picture of a gray cloud with a blue down arrow where the Free button used to be. 3) If you click on the cloud it then changes to a blue circle with square in the middle and a bar moves around the perimeter to indicate the download % the app(I guess). THEN I get the Open button. Never is there an install or free button. 4) Other apps(at least the few I looked at) still have a free button and when clicked instantly changes to the install button. 5) IF you install a dev version after deleting the iTunes version (or vice-versa), The icon of the iPad is the Large Application Icon from iTunes connect until first launch of the app then the icon changes to the standalone setting icon. This is very repeatable. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Chris Sheffield Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 12:39 PM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: Livecode and iOS 7 Ralph, I'm not seeing anything like that here. But I'm on an iPad 4, not 2. Not really sure what to suggest. Do you get some kind of error when trying to reinstall your app? You mention not being able to install from the App Store. Can you not find your app there, or does it just not download properly? Wish I could help more. Seems like a strange problem, especially if your app is already in the store and you're just trying to re-download it. Chris -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com On Sep 10, 2013, at 10:33 AM, Ralph DiMola rdim...@evergreeninfo.net wrote: I upgraded my iPad2 to iOS 7 latest pre-release version. Previously installed LC apps seem to run OK. BUT... if you delete the app you can't reinstall it from either the App Store or from iTunes. Is there something I am Missing? Or do we need an update from LC? I'm using LC 6.1.1 rc2. Does rc6 fix this? Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT: Sparkleshare
sounds like fun, but the advantage of dropbox is the free space, which this does not have, because you need to host it yourself. on the plus side, you'll be able to test it easily on github yourself :) On 10.09.2013, at 18:21, Mark Wieder wrote: Does anyone have any experience with Sparkleshare? We're looking into it as an alternative to Dropbox, and since it's built on git, I'm curious about how it handles multiuser issues like file conflicts. http://sparkleshare.org/ -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Use an alternative Dictionary viewer: http://bjoernke.com/bvgdocu/ Chat with other RunRev developers: http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Unwanted password protection
Graham- Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 10:42:28 AM, you wrote: In preparing my stack for a bug report, I found the issue disappeared when I duplicated my stack and renamed it!! The original stack (unmodified in any other way and still in the same directory as the renamed one) still unfailingly exhibits the issue. Don't know whether to report it or not now. Even more puzzled Yeah, that's weird. I'd report it and include at least the original one with the problem. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: What are the best programming fonts?
download http://sourceforge.net/projects/sourcecodepro.adobe/?source=dlp On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 12:36 PM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.netwrote: I've used Source Code Pro as my default font since it was released, and it looks great in the LiveCode script editor and in glx2. And it differentiates the number zero from letter O with a little dot! http://www.google.com/fonts/specimen/Source+Code+Pro -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: How much interest in OS X 10.8 user notifications is there?
Hi Rick, Am 10.09.2013 um 15:52 schrieb Rick Harrison harri...@all-auctions.com: Hi Monte, Personally I strongly dislike notifications and wish Apple had never made them part of the operating system because I find them to be annoying when I'm working. oh well, if we only had the chance to turn that off in the system prefs, maybe even separately for each app. 8-) Thanks for asking! Rick Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major-k.de ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] SmartWatches
On 07/09/2013 22:07, Peter Haworth wrote: Just curious - is anyone rushing out to buy one of these things? No, not rushing out to buy one now. In fact, I'd say the likelihood of me buying one within 2 years is just about 0%. But within 10 years ? - probably 50%. Indeed, I think within 5 years the capability will exist to build a smartwatch that I would very much like to have - though whether it will be within my price range is another question. And of course my wish-list may be so different from what the manufacturers want to build that I never get one. My needs (and/or desires) 1. Robust. - at least 10m water resistant or I won't even consider it; in practice 1 meter would be enough for me - but I probably wouldn't feel safe buying it unless it was safe for at least 10m. - wide operating temp range (Yes, I do sometimes sleep in a tent below -5C) - somewhere near to as scratch-, bang- and knock-resistant as my current mechanical watch 2. Power. Ideally auto-powered (cf Citizen self-winding quartz watches), but I'd settle for 24 hour battery life and easy charging (i.e. non-contact) on my bedside table within 2 hours. 3. Close to size/weight limits of reasonable mech watch 4. Voice activated for at least some functionality (yes, I know, I have a Scottish accent, so this will be a source of great frustration much of the time :-) http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/collections/p00hvv42 5. Good apps for mail, voice calls, browsing, calendar, etc. - need quite a bit of improvement and/or adjustment from current phone/tablet versions. 6. Significant progress in availability and use of sensor and remote control apps. (e.g. TV / radio remote, walkie/talkie over wifi to other family members, etc.) Given those as a minimum (and a huge wish list to go along with them), I'd be a customer. Of course most of those could be done by your phone. But apart from my wedding ring, my watch is the *only* thing that goes everywhere with me - even the phone gets either accidentally left behind (or mislaid) sometimes, and it does occasionally get left behind deliberately. Having a watch that could replace 85% of the function (even if only 50% of the convenience) would make it possible to leave it behind more often. A phone is (today) still too heavy, intrusive and fragile -- Alex. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
What are the best programming fonts?
Slant has a post comparing different monospace fonts for coding. Source Code Pro, of course, comes out in front, but it's followed very closely by Consolas, which I'd never heard of, and then several others, similar but different. I've used Source Code Pro as my default font since it was released, and it looks great in the LiveCode script editor and in glx2. http://www.slant.co/topics/67/~what-are-the-best-programming-fonts -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Livecode and iOS 7
I did not know that the app was currently loading from the app store(new iOS7 confusion) when I tried to load up the same app with a dev certificate from iTunes. At that point iTunes did nothing. When I the deleted the app and tried from iTunes with dev certificate, all worked OK. It was the keyboard actuator causing the problem. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Gerry Orkin Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 8:57 PM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: Livecode and iOS 7 We can't currently install development versions of our apps on iOS 7 devices via xCode...correct? Gerry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Livecode and iOS 7
I wrote: We can't currently install development versions of our apps on iOS 7 devices via xCode...correct? Incorrect. I've just installed the iOS 7 GM and I can install development apps with no problem at all using Monte's MergTestApp. Whoop de doo! Gerry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode