Re: How To Say ?This Is Crap? In Different Cultures
Whilst working in the garden I called to my wife What time is it? to which she yelled... Lunch will be ready when I'm ready! Marriage, huh? :-) Hugh Senior FLCo -Original Message- From: Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: How To Say ?This Is Crap? In Different Cultures Message-ID: f3882fe6-5de3-434a-8a28-d40d02cfa...@iotecdigital.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Reminds me a lot of a trip I took with my Dad and Stepmom around the big island of Hawaii. I would hear her say something that barely registered with me, but my Dad seemed to immediately act upon it. After watching this interaction for a bit, I realized she was speaking in a kind of code, and he was interpreting it, and doing a damd good job of it too, although she would probably have disagreed about that. I brought it up to him later, and he confirmed that this was exactly what was going on. He had learned to do this over the years he had been with her. She would make vague references to things, and it was his responsibility to interpret correctly that she wanted him to do or say something very specific. And he?d better get it right too, or there would be words later, and the words would be more code he had to interpret correctly, or else things would just go downhill from there. I expressed that this was really difficult for me as it left so much room for misunderstandings, and the stress of always having to be on my guard about those little subtleties would be too much for me to deal with on a daily basis. He told me that I had better never marry then. I?ve taken his advice. :-) Bob On Feb 25, 2014, at 14:13 , Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Some cross-cultural issues: http://blogs.hbr.org/2014/02/how-to-say-this-is-crap-in-different- cultures/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: How To Say ?This Is Crap? In Different Cultures
On 27 Feb 2014, at 08:59, FlexibleLearning.com ad...@flexiblelearning.com wrote: Whilst working in the garden And how should we interpret that, Hugh? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Why is everybody better than me?
When I get older I would very much like to learn how to post correctly to this list. You all seem to have no problem getting the message you're answering included in your answer. I do! I will consider all of you that are willing to share this secret with me to be kind persons. Kind regards Mats ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Why is everybody better than me?
Hi Mats, (Almost?) all e-mail clients have an option to quote the message that is being answered. If you check this option in the preferences of your client, the previous message will be included automatically. Usually, you can also choose whether the previous message should be before (above) or after (below) your own text. Personally, I prefer to read quoted messages below the answer, because that doesn't force me to scroll down to the new reply in every single e-mail. If you are using webmail, things may be slightly more complicated. Not every webmail system has the same options and they are not always called the same. E.g. Yahoo has quoting turned of by default, because they want you to use their threading system. There is a way to turned it on, but I don't recall how. I never use webmail. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Use Color Converter to convert CMYK, RGB, RAL, XYZ, H.Lab and other colour spaces. http://www.color-converter.com Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ On 2/27/2014 13:36, Mats Wilstrand wrote: When I get older I would very much like to learn how to post correctly to this list. You all seem to have no problem getting the message you're answering included in your answer. I do! I will consider all of you that are willing to share this secret with me to be kind persons. Kind regards Mats ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Why is everybody better than me?
Mats Wilstrand-2 wrote You all seem to have no problem getting the message you're answering included in your answer. Hi Mats! I find it MUCH easier to post to the use list via http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Revolution-User-f278306.html there are nice tools to manage quoting and everything - come and join the dark side :) - Some are born coders, some achieve coding, and some have coding thrust upon them. - William Shakespeare Hugh Senior -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Why-is-everybody-better-than-me-tp4676532p4676534.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Grouping controls within a group
You can also use the start / stop editing command while locking the screen. Basic testing shows it that just messing with relayerGroupedControls doesn't help... Could be nice if that'd be possible. Until then, the following works: on mouseUp lock screen start editing group 1 group button 1 and button 2 stop editing end mouseUp On 27.02.2014, at 00:58, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote: I have a need to group controls within an existing group into a subgroup by script, but I get a runtime error when trying to do that - in 6.5.2 the message is Object cannot be grouped. Any ideas on how to do that? The only way I can think of is to ungroup the main group, group the selected controls to form the subgroup, then group the subgroup and the rest of the controls to reinstate the main group, but that's pretty scary! Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Use an alternative Dictionary viewer: http://bjoernke.com/bvgdocu/ Chat with other RunRev developers: http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Scrolling speed of a data grid
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 5:05 PM, Terence Heaford t.heaf...@btinternet.comwrote: repeatRate is clearly working because if i raise it significantly everything slows to a crawl but honestly I can't notice much difference between 50 and 10 or 0 with my 1700 records. Perhaps it's time to give this one up and put up with it, unless you have any other ideas. Not at the moment. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems www.screensteps.com-www.clarify-it.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Why is everybody better than me?
Thanks Dave! I've joined the dark side. Life is looking so much brighter now. :) Best Mats -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Why-is-everybody-better-than-me-tp4676532p4676537.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Wolfram language
Message: 3 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 09:35:12 -0800 From: Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Wolfram language Message-ID: 530e25d0.5030...@fourthworld.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Jim Hurley wrote: And, Richard, as a petty aside, that formula and graph in the forum you cite don?t ?compute.? Not petty at all. It's just one more reason we love having you in this community: you help keep our math straight. But there is another significant difference between LC and what one might achieve in the new Wolfram-enabled LC. One cannot plot a truly smooth curve in LC. The curve is always a set of line segments joining a set of discrete points. It is similar to the difference between bit map and vector graphics. Hopefully that can change now that LiveCode uses the Skia library for its graphics primitives. If memory serves Skia supports Beziers - could those be used for what you're looking for? Richard, Thank you. I'm afraid I really haven't been keeping up. Could you, or any one, provide me with an example that shows how to use the Skia library? Here is an example that illustrates what I mean when I say that LC cannot plot a smooth curve. It will *plot* a circle and also place a circle of equal size next it using LC's graphic tools. They are close, but the plot shows the pixillation no matter how many points one choose for the plot. Just put this into a button script. on mouseUp if there is no grc circle then create grc Circle set the style of grc circle to polygon set the points of grc circle to put 200 into R put R+10 into x0 put the height of this card / 2 into y0 answer By what fraction of a degree between steps would you choose? with 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 put it into tFraction --Draw the circle repeat with Ang = 0 to 360*tFraction put R* cos(ang*PI/180/tFraction) into x put R * sin(Ang*PI/180/tFraction) into y put Round(x0 + x), Round(y0+y) cr after tPoints end repeat set the points of grc Circle to tPoints --Show the oval if there is not grc oval then create grc oval set the style of grc oval to oval set the width of grc oval to 2*R set the height of grc oval to 2*R set the loc of grc Oval to x0 +2* R + 10, y0 end if end mouseUp -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Scrolling speed of a data grid
Out of interest when I close down LiveCode and reopen it and in the message box type put the repeatRate, it always comes back at 1 not 50. Either the Language Guide is wrong and it is reset to 1 and not 50 or the default setting has been changed to 1 and not 50 and the Language Guide is incorrect. This assumes of course it is reset each time you close LC. This would explain why I am not seeing much improvement because it was already 1. All the best Terry On 27 Feb 2014, at 14:19, Trevor DeVore li...@mangomultimedia.com wrote: repeatRate is clearly working ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Why is everybody better than me?
Hi again Dave! Using the Quote function now! I'm like a child, will try to stop now. Dave Kilroy wrote Mats Wilstrand-2 wrote You all seem to have no problem getting the message you're answering included in your answer. Hi Mats! I find it MUCH easier to post to the use list via http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Revolution-User-f278306.html there are nice tools to manage quoting and everything - come and join the dark side :) - Mats wilstrand http://tapirsoft.on-rev.com -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Why-is-everybody-better-than-me-tp4676532p4676540.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Wolfram language
Jim Hurley wrote: Could you, or any one, provide me with an example that shows how to use the Skia library? Skia is a 2d library, used in LiveCode to replace the older internal subsystem used for drawing. The good news is that we don't have to do anything to use Skia: it's already there, working every time you render anything to the screen. RunRev did such a good job dropping it in that most people didn't notice any change at all. The bad news is that we *can't* (currently) do anything with it from scripting: if you want to use additional capabilities not currently supported by the LiveCode language, those would need to be submitted as feature requests. But the good thing about Skia is that many such feature requests are now easier for the team to implement than before, since they can rely on the capabilities of a library that has many times more developers working on it than any small company could afford. For example, SVG is handled by Skia, so conceivably we could see SVG import and export added to LC. And along with that, since SVG supports Beziers, we'll hopefully see that too. Those types of additions to LiveCode are probably not as high on the priority list as the published Kickstarter goals, but achievable with Skia once the other priorities are done. And of course anyone in the community with sufficient time and skills could add those capabilities and submit a pull request to have them added to the main engine build. More info on Skia: https://sites.google.com/site/skiadocs/roadmap -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Blogging Policy Revision
Dear List Members, I'd just like to give you good folks all a heads up. We've just started implementing a new policy of actively encouraging our entire team to post tech updates to our blog. This means that you should regularly find interesting new content there, you might want to bookmark it or make a habit of checking it more often than in the past :) http://livecode.com/blog/ Warm Regards, Heather Heather Laine Customer Services Manager http://www.livecode.com/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Blogging Policy Revision
Thanks Heather! That's a very good policy. Bookmarked. Best Mats -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Heather Laine Sent: den 27 februari 2014 16:18 To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Blogging Policy Revision Dear List Members, I'd just like to give you good folks all a heads up. We've just started implementing a new policy of actively encouraging our entire team to post tech updates to our blog. This means that you should regularly find interesting new content there, you might want to bookmark it or make a habit of checking it more often than in the past :) http://livecode.com/blog/ Warm Regards, Heather Heather Laine Customer Services Manager http://www.livecode.com/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Wolfram language
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: For example, SVG is handled by Skia, so conceivably we could see SVG import and export added to LC. And along with that, since SVG supports Beziers, we'll hopefully see that too. Those types of additions to LiveCode are probably not as high on the priority list as the published Kickstarter goals, but achievable with Skia once the other priorities are done. Richard, Good news - Vector Shape Object is one of the published Kickstart goals. The description is: The new vector shape object will provide rich vector support, use of SVG and sub pixel drawing accuracy. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems www.screensteps.com-www.clarify-it.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Why is everybody better than me?
Hi Mats, Another useful tip (depending on your preferred email client), is to highlight the phrase/sentence/paragraph/etc. that you want to quote before hitting the Reply button, the highlighted text should be included in your reply (see below). I'm using Apple Mail, I've tried other software, but always end up coming back to Mail. Paul On 2014-02-27, at 4:36 AM, Mats Wilstrand mats.wilstr...@tapirsoft.com wrote: You all seem to have no problem getting the message you're answering included in your answer. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Wolfram language
Trevor DeVore wrote: Good news - Vector Shape Object is one of the published Kickstart goals. The description is: The new vector shape object will provide rich vector support, use of SVG and sub pixel drawing accuracy. As one of the items in Queued, below the top three strands, I'm looking forward to it but don't expect to see it very soon. I'd love to be wrong, but I'd love even more to see SFTP and the updated player object first. It seems hopeful, though, given that Cocoa is also listed under Queued, but has been the focus of a great deal of effort recently. Fingers crossed - I want it all by next Tuesday. :) -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Why is everybody better than me?
Thanks Paul, that's a useful tip! Can't seem to get it working on my Outlook 2010 though. Will investigate some more. Bets Mats -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Paul Hibbert Sent: den 27 februari 2014 16:52 To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: Why is everybody better than me? Hi Mats, Another useful tip (depending on your preferred email client), is to highlight the phrase/sentence/paragraph/etc. that you want to quote before hitting the Reply button, the highlighted text should be included in your reply (see below). I'm using Apple Mail, I've tried other software, but always end up coming back to Mail. Paul On 2014-02-27, at 4:36 AM, Mats Wilstrand mats.wilstr...@tapirsoft.com wrote: You all seem to have no problem getting the message you're answering included in your answer. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Grouping controls within a group
Thanks Bjornke. I'm nervous about putting a group into and out of edit mode by script having had some bad experiences with it in the past. Seems like it puts the stack into a weird and wonderful state where the controls outside of the edited group no longer exist and any reference to a control that includes the group name fails. Any script runtime errors stand a chance of corrupting the stack. However, your suggestion to lock the screen sounds like it would take care of my concerns and I'd only be in group edit mode for a few milliseconds so I'll give this a whirl. It is less code than the other solutions and I like that. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 6:06 AM, Björnke von Gierke b...@mac.com wrote: You can also use the start / stop editing command while locking the screen. Basic testing shows it that just messing with relayerGroupedControls doesn't help... Could be nice if that'd be possible. Until then, the following works: on mouseUp lock screen start editing group 1 group button 1 and button 2 stop editing end mouseUp On 27.02.2014, at 00:58, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote: I have a need to group controls within an existing group into a subgroup by script, but I get a runtime error when trying to do that - in 6.5.2 the message is Object cannot be grouped. Any ideas on how to do that? The only way I can think of is to ungroup the main group, group the selected controls to form the subgroup, then group the subgroup and the rest of the controls to reinstate the main group, but that's pretty scary! Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Use an alternative Dictionary viewer: http://bjoernke.com/bvgdocu/ Chat with other RunRev developers: http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Why is everybody better than me?
Hi Mark! Turned out I had my List preferences set to only receive a digests! Changed that to receive a mail for each post now. So I hope next time I answer you, your message will be included! Thanks for guidance Mark! Mats Hi Mats, (Almost?) all e-mail clients have an option to quote the message that is being answered. If you check this option in the preferences of your client, the previous message will be included automatically. Usually, you can also choose whether the previous message should be before (above) or after (below) your own text. Personally, I prefer to read quoted messages below the answer, because that doesn't force me to scroll down to the new reply in every single e-mail. If you are using webmail, things may be slightly more complicated. Not every webmail system has the same options and they are not always called the same. E.g. Yahoo has quoting turned off by default, because they want you to use their threading system. There is a way to turned it on, but I don't recall how. I never use webmail. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Blogging Policy Revision
Heather Laine heat...@runrev.com wrote: you might want to bookmark done! however, how about putting a RSS link, to read this in NetNewsWire, for instance... (-8 Médard ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Near Text Search
Look in User Samples (revOnline) for my Spelling Matching with Soundex stack. I think I classified it with tags text and algorithm. It's just a modification of the basic SoundEx algorithm with a couple of my own modifications thrown in. Devin On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:38 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: I'm still missing it - where can one find Devin's Levenstein function? Bob Sneidar: Don’t know how I missed that, thanks. On Feb 26, 2014, at 18:50 , Peter Haworth wrote: If I remember correctly, Devin has some functions that implement a Levenstein Distance algorithm which will identify potential misspellings of a word ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode Devin Asay Office of Digital Humanities Brigham Young University ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Near Text Search
BobS wrote: That is kind of what I was doing, ... Does that mean I’m a genius? Instead of Levenshtein Distance, I think we need a Euclidean Distance formula to calculate that. ;) Whenever I run it on myself the result always approaches zero. JimL ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Near Text Search
Devin Asay wrote: Look in User Samples (revOnline) for my Spelling Matching with Soundex stack. I think I classified it with tags text and algorithm. It's just a modification of the basic SoundEx algorithm with a couple of my own modifications thrown in. Found it - thanks! -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
[OT] stop scrolling text - Spritz
Sleeves up designers :) http://learn2spritz.com/ Thierry Thierry Douez - http://sunny-tdz.com Maker of sunnYperl - sunnYmidi - sunnYmage - sunnYpdf ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Blogging Policy Revision
On 27/02/14 17:17, Heather Laine wrote: Dear List Members, I'd just like to give you good folks all a heads up. We've just started implementing a new policy of actively encouraging our entire team to post tech updates to our blog. This means that you should regularly find interesting new content there, you might want to bookmark it or make a habit of checking it more often than in the past :) http://livecode.com/blog/ Lovely job. Warm Regards, Heather Heather Laine Customer Services Manager http://www.livecode.com/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] stop scrolling text - Spritz
Bonsoir Thierry, Am 27.02.2014 um 19:30 schrieb Thierry Douez th.do...@gmail.com: Sleeves up designers :) http://learn2spritz.com/ cool, I managed 400wpm, even in english :-) Spritz in german is the imperative to the verb spritzen, which means to squirt or to sputter :-D Thierry Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major-k.de ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] stop scrolling text - Spritz
Merci Thierry for sharing this link ! Le 27 févr. 2014 à 19:30, Thierry Douez th.do...@gmail.com a écrit : Sleeves up designers :) http://learn2spritz.com/ Thierry Thierry Douez - http://sunny-tdz.com Maker of sunnYperl - sunnYmidi - sunnYmage - sunnYpdf ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pierre Sahores mobile : 06 03 95 77 70 www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] stop scrolling text - Spritz
That's pretty amazing Thierry. It was easy to get my reading speed up to 400wpm. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Thierry Douez th.do...@gmail.com wrote: Sleeves up designers :) http://learn2spritz.com/ Thierry Thierry Douez - http://sunny-tdz.com Maker of sunnYperl - sunnYmidi - sunnYmage - sunnYpdf ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Strange behavior of the IDE?
I'm trying to debug a sequence of code with some repeat loops and stuff in it. I'm using LC 6.5.2 on Apple Mavericks 10.9.1 - but I've just tested this on a far older version of LC (5.5.4) and I get the same problem: I have put a number of breakpoints in the code, and when I start executing it, the breakpoints do indeed stop the code running as expected. But then I come to a point where the code seems to rush ahead, taking no notice of the breakpoints. Specifically, I start tracing before calling a certain function with this statement put myFunction(myParameter) into field myField The first line of the function has a breakpoint in it, but as soon as execution moves to the function, none of the breakpoints within it apply. It's as if I'd clicked on the 'step over' button in the IDE instead of the 'step into', but I haven't. This is entirely repeatable. What did I do wrong? I suppose it may be a bug, but I rather dread cutting it down to a simple example. Has anyone any idea what is causing this? TIA Graham ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] stop scrolling text - Spritz
That's pretty amazing Thierry. It was easy to get my reading speed up to 400wpm. Pete It's because of your sqlitz-mind. You can't imagine with my regexitz one :) More seriously, I'm eager to see some real use of this... in Livecode!! Thierry http://learn2spritz.com/ Thierry Douez - http://sunny-tdz.com Maker of sunnYperl - sunnYmidi - sunnYmage - sunnYpdf ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Strange behavior of the IDE?
I've experienced this from time to time and it's very frustrating. Have you tried inserting a breakpoint command at the start of your function rather than a red dot breakpoint? I've sometimes found that the statement following the breakpoint is somehow syntactically incorrect in a way that isn't caught during compile, which seems to cause LC to just give up. Sorry to be so vague but I can't remember the exact details. On another occasion, I ended up putting a lock messages command in my code (when I was in try anything mode) which fixed the problem, but I have no idea why. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Graham Samuel livf...@mac.com wrote: I'm trying to debug a sequence of code with some repeat loops and stuff in it. I'm using LC 6.5.2 on Apple Mavericks 10.9.1 - but I've just tested this on a far older version of LC (5.5.4) and I get the same problem: I have put a number of breakpoints in the code, and when I start executing it, the breakpoints do indeed stop the code running as expected. But then I come to a point where the code seems to rush ahead, taking no notice of the breakpoints. Specifically, I start tracing before calling a certain function with this statement put myFunction(myParameter) into field myField The first line of the function has a breakpoint in it, but as soon as execution moves to the function, none of the breakpoints within it apply. It's as if I'd clicked on the 'step over' button in the IDE instead of the 'step into', but I haven't. This is entirely repeatable. What did I do wrong? I suppose it may be a bug, but I rather dread cutting it down to a simple example. Has anyone any idea what is causing this? TIA Graham ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Strange behavior of the IDE?
Pete, thanks for the quick reply. Neither of those things work for me. There is even odder stuff: if I put breakpoints in earlier code and click through that code to the point where the breakpoints stop working, then the 'strange' code is executed, although it doesn't stop at its own breakpoints. If I just let the program run, by clicking on the 'run' triangle every time it reaches a working breakpoint, the code in the problematic section isn't executed, or not all of it - for example I have become sufficiently desperate to introduce a simple logging function that puts lines of text into a field. In the 'just run it' case, the log doesn't show, and in the other case, I get log entries. This is all extremely strange. I've tried quitting and restarting etc but so far nothing has worked. Reluctantly I will try to report it as a bug. Graham On 27 Feb 2014, at 21:33, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote: I've experienced this from time to time and it's very frustrating. Have you tried inserting a breakpoint command at the start of your function rather than a red dot breakpoint? I've sometimes found that the statement following the breakpoint is somehow syntactically incorrect in a way that isn't caught during compile, which seems to cause LC to just give up. Sorry to be so vague but I can't remember the exact details. On another occasion, I ended up putting a lock messages command in my code (when I was in try anything mode) which fixed the problem, but I have no idea why. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Graham Samuel livf...@mac.com wrote: I'm trying to debug a sequence of code with some repeat loops and stuff in it. I'm using LC 6.5.2 on Apple Mavericks 10.9.1 - but I've just tested this on a far older version of LC (5.5.4) and I get the same problem: I have put a number of breakpoints in the code, and when I start executing it, the breakpoints do indeed stop the code running as expected. But then I come to a point where the code seems to rush ahead, taking no notice of the breakpoints. Specifically, I start tracing before calling a certain function with this statement put myFunction(myParameter) into field myField The first line of the function has a breakpoint in it, but as soon as execution moves to the function, none of the breakpoints within it apply. It's as if I'd clicked on the 'step over' button in the IDE instead of the 'step into', but I haven't. This is entirely repeatable. What did I do wrong? I suppose it may be a bug, but I rather dread cutting it down to a simple example. Has anyone any idea what is causing this? TIA Graham ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Strange behavior of the IDE?
On 2/27/14, 1:03 PM, Graham Samuel wrote: put myFunction(myParameter) into field myField The first line of the function has a breakpoint in it, but as soon as execution moves to the function, none of the breakpoints within it apply. It's as if I'd clicked on the 'step over' button in the IDE instead of the 'step into', but I haven't. This is entirely repeatable. What did I do wrong? I suppose it may be a bug, but I rather dread cutting it down to a simple example. Has anyone any idea what is causing this? Does your function call handlers in any rev libraries? Those ignore breakpoints. If so, you can try setting the global gRevDevelopment to true, see if it starts working again. You probably won't want to leave that setting on for very long, it will step into all the IDE code. Usually when it happens to me, I just set the breakpoint on the next line down, or wherever it starts working again. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Scrolling speed of a data grid
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:01 PM, Terence Heaford t.heaf...@btinternet.comwrote: This assumes of course it is reset each time you close LC. That's what happens on my machine: OS X 10.9.2, LC 6.5.2 New stack, new btn: on mouseUp set the repeatRate to 20 end mouseUp Press the btn and in the msg box 'put the repeatRate' I get 20. If I Quit LC, restart it and open my New stack and 'put the repeatRate' in the msg box I get 50. Press the btn I get 20. If you get 1 before you even open a stack, then a plugin might be setting it. If you get 1 ater you open a stack then I'd be doing a global search for 'repeatRate' which I assume will be in an [pre]open[stack/card] handler somewhere. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Strange behavior of the IDE?
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 3:03 AM, Graham Samuel livf...@mac.com wrote: The first line of the function has a breakpoint in it, but as soon as execution moves to the function, none of the breakpoints within it apply. As stated there is a syntax/logic error in the function. As Peter said put a hard breakpoint as line 1 of the function, then comment out every other line. You will now be able to step into the function - which proves there is a problem within it*. Then systematically uncomment 50% of the commented code. You should be able to quickly locate where the offending line is once you are able to actually step into your function. * On very rare occasions, I'm pretty sure associated with copying and pasting code from online, I've had functions or scripts that don't behave as they should. In this case I've cut the function/handler, or in extreme cases the entire script out and pasted it into a text editor - TextWrangleran excellent free one for Mac. I 'Apply' and Saved the stack with the offending piece missing. I then use BBEdit's (TextWranglers big brother) Zap Gremlins function to remove all non ASCII, ASCII control and ASCII null values. I then reinsert the code which is now plain vanilla text, 'Apply' then save and things return to normal. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Strange behavior of the IDE? - Found word(s) list error remove list in the Text body
I will say though, that at times I have had syntax errors which compile fine but produce some kind of runtime error, and when the offending command is reached, the engine silently exits the handler and stepping terminates. I see this in the debugger because when I step through the code, it hits that line then bails out. Whenever you hit a line of code that seems to jump out of the step debugger, examine that line of code VEWY CAWEFUWWY. Bob On Feb 27, 2014, at 14:08 , Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 3:03 AM, Graham Samuel livf...@mac.com wrote: The first line of the function has a breakpoint in it, but as soon as execution moves to the function, none of the breakpoints within it apply. As stated there is a syntax/logic error in the function. As Peter said put a hard breakpoint as line 1 of the function, then comment out every other line. You will now be able to step into the function - which proves there is a problem within it*. Then systematically uncomment 50% of the commented code. You should be able to quickly locate where the offending line is once you are able to actually step into your function. * On very rare occasions, I'm pretty sure associated with copying and pasting code from online, I've had functions or scripts that don't behave as they should. In this case I've cut the function/handler, or in extreme cases the entire script out and pasted it into a text editor - TextWrangleran excellent free one for Mac. I 'Apply' and Saved the stack with the offending piece missing. I then use BBEdit's (TextWranglers big brother) Zap Gremlins function to remove all non ASCII, ASCII control and ASCII null values. I then reinsert the code which is now plain vanilla text, 'Apply' then save and things return to normal. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] stop scrolling text - Spritz
OK, I couldn't resist! Some of it is pretty clumsy but it's a start. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/50196612/Spritzing.livecode Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Thierry Douez th.do...@gmail.com wrote: That's pretty amazing Thierry. It was easy to get my reading speed up to 400wpm. Pete It's because of your sqlitz-mind. You can't imagine with my regexitz one :) More seriously, I'm eager to see some real use of this... in Livecode!! Thierry http://learn2spritz.com/ Thierry Douez - http://sunny-tdz.com Maker of sunnYperl - sunnYmidi - sunnYmage - sunnYpdf ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Strange behavior of the IDE?
Yes, everything you said matches what I've experienced. There have been other threads about it too. It may already have been reported as a bug Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Graham Samuel livf...@mac.com wrote: Pete, thanks for the quick reply. Neither of those things work for me. There is even odder stuff: if I put breakpoints in earlier code and click through that code to the point where the breakpoints stop working, then the 'strange' code is executed, although it doesn't stop at its own breakpoints. If I just let the program run, by clicking on the 'run' triangle every time it reaches a working breakpoint, the code in the problematic section isn't executed, or not all of it - for example I have become sufficiently desperate to introduce a simple logging function that puts lines of text into a field. In the 'just run it' case, the log doesn't show, and in the other case, I get log entries. This is all extremely strange. I've tried quitting and restarting etc but so far nothing has worked. Reluctantly I will try to report it as a bug. Graham On 27 Feb 2014, at 21:33, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote: I've experienced this from time to time and it's very frustrating. Have you tried inserting a breakpoint command at the start of your function rather than a red dot breakpoint? I've sometimes found that the statement following the breakpoint is somehow syntactically incorrect in a way that isn't caught during compile, which seems to cause LC to just give up. Sorry to be so vague but I can't remember the exact details. On another occasion, I ended up putting a lock messages command in my code (when I was in try anything mode) which fixed the problem, but I have no idea why. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Graham Samuel livf...@mac.com wrote: I'm trying to debug a sequence of code with some repeat loops and stuff in it. I'm using LC 6.5.2 on Apple Mavericks 10.9.1 - but I've just tested this on a far older version of LC (5.5.4) and I get the same problem: I have put a number of breakpoints in the code, and when I start executing it, the breakpoints do indeed stop the code running as expected. But then I come to a point where the code seems to rush ahead, taking no notice of the breakpoints. Specifically, I start tracing before calling a certain function with this statement put myFunction(myParameter) into field myField The first line of the function has a breakpoint in it, but as soon as execution moves to the function, none of the breakpoints within it apply. It's as if I'd clicked on the 'step over' button in the IDE instead of the 'step into', but I haven't. This is entirely repeatable. What did I do wrong? I suppose it may be a bug, but I rather dread cutting it down to a simple example. Has anyone any idea what is causing this? TIA Graham ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Strange behavior of the IDE?
Kay, thanks to you and everyone who replied. I see that your technique will isolate the issue, since I suppose logically it must be in my code. It's extraordinary though that the IDE just caves in in certain circumstances without any form of error report when the program is obviously running wild (after all, it's interpreted... but let's not get too deeply into that). Let's hope future versions of the IDE will be a bit more helpful. Meanwhile I will take the advice I've been given. Cheers Graham On 27 Feb 2014, at 23:08, Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 3:03 AM, Graham Samuel livf...@mac.com wrote: The first line of the function has a breakpoint in it, but as soon as execution moves to the function, none of the breakpoints within it apply. As stated there is a syntax/logic error in the function. As Peter said put a hard breakpoint as line 1 of the function, then comment out every other line. You will now be able to step into the function - which proves there is a problem within it*. Then systematically uncomment 50% of the commented code. You should be able to quickly locate where the offending line is once you are able to actually step into your function. * On very rare occasions, I'm pretty sure associated with copying and pasting code from online, I've had functions or scripts that don't behave as they should. In this case I've cut the function/handler, or in extreme cases the entire script out and pasted it into a text editor - TextWrangleran excellent free one for Mac. I 'Apply' and Saved the stack with the offending piece missing. I then use BBEdit's (TextWranglers big brother) Zap Gremlins function to remove all non ASCII, ASCII control and ASCII null values. I then reinsert the code which is now plain vanilla text, 'Apply' then save and things return to normal. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: Support for Mac OSX 10.5
Re. my suggestion that it may be possible for older Macs to stay safe by upgrading to OS X 10.6: Looks like I had more faith in Apple than their decisions warrant, as they just knifed the baby, and 19% of Mac users along with it: Apple Retires Snow Leopard Support, Leaves 1 In 5 Macs In The Dust http://readwrite.com/2014/02/27/apple-snow-leopard-support-osx-mac Snow Leopard was released on August 28, 2009, and was the last version of OS X that ran on 32-bit CPUs. Sadly, this once-satirical comment about upgrades is increasingly relevant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=Hk8hxjpnUiw#t=44 -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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Re: AW: Support for Mac OSX 10.5
like Lion and Mountain Lion, Mavericks doesn’t cost a thing. It costs a LOT if one can run 32 bit any more… more bricks on the shelf. Maybe Apple can shut up for a while now that they've forced everyone to 64 bit. It wouldn't be so bad if they hadn't tried to axe popular apps with completely new workflows. I have no feature in Mavericks that I would want except to enable newer software, like Final Cut Pro X - if I can endure the new workflow….and there's no demo available, so I can't even check it out. It's supposed to be better now. I'm still pissed about what happened to the REAL Final Cut Pro (7). And Waveburner, their Brilliant bastard stepchild of a CD mastering software. Never heard of it? Not surprised. (it was bundled with Logic for years.) - no replacement offered. Those guys don't even know what mastering means any more. It's not about 'crunching' plugins, it's about workflow. Somebody that probably never used it made the decision. I guess the main excuse is about the Carbon/Cocoa thing. They knifed that baby really good - and ignored and dismissed thousands of video professionals that depended on FCP. It's the arrogance that ticks me off. Most went to Adobe Premiere, as Avid has even more downsides. Nobody's really happy. sqb *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words* On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote: Re. my suggestion that it may be possible for older Macs to stay safe by upgrading to OS X 10.6: Looks like I had more faith in Apple than their decisions warrant, as they just knifed the baby, and 19% of Mac users along with it: Apple Retires Snow Leopard Support, Leaves 1 In 5 Macs In The Dust http://readwrite.com/2014/02/27/apple-snow-leopard-support-osx-mac ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Finding available memory without shell, how to use hasMemory() - Found word(s) list error in the Text body
Gabriel, if you are saving to the boot volume and getting dow to 100MB, this is a very serious matter. You should *never* go below 10 gigs on a modern boot driveIf the volume is being used for a swap file, it’s not as serious but will affect performance. Just a heads up. Bob On Feb 26, 2014, at 11:21 , Gabriel Johnson gwj...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the responses. Yes, we are saving a 100+ MB data file to disk, and when the free memory gets to be under 100 MB, saving to a standard hard drive (not SSD) sometimes ends up taking a very long time (in Mac OS X), making it appear to the user that the program has locked up. We have contemplated going about this a different way, but the quickest fix for us at the moment is to catch low memory situations. Mark: Yes, we need to know the amount of free ram (without counting the swap/inactive memory). Gabe Johnson gwj...@gmail.com 603-978-9881 On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Gabriel- Thursday, February 20, 2014, 11:07:59 AM, you wrote: Hey All, I am working on a program where I need to know the amount of available memory. I'm running on OS X and hasMemory() appears to return true/false for the same values regardless changes to free/available memory. Is there some trick to getting hasMemory() to correspond with the actual available memory? Is this possibly something that is being addressed in newer versions of LiveCode? Ah, the curse of modern operating systems... What the hasMemory() function does is allocate and then free the specified amount of memory, and then returns a boolean telling whether it was successful. However, before doing that, it casts the desired amount as a uint4, which limits the amount to 2147483647. If you're trying to see if more than 2G of memory is available, that won't help. And because modern operating systems will very happily exchange chunks of memory out to swap files when necessary, it's unlikely that you'll see the malloc fail, and thus you should see a true return value. Are you doing something where you really need to see the actual free ram without the swap/inactive memory? The available term here is a bit ambiguous, and depends on your needs. -- -Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com This communication may be unlawfully collected and stored by the National Security Agency (NSA) in secret. The parties to this email do not consent to the retrieving or storing of this communication and any related metadata, as well as printing, copying, re-transmitting, disseminating, or otherwise using it. If you believe you have received this communication in error, please delete it immediately. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] stop scrolling text - Spritz
I’d like to see phrases go quickly, and slight pauses where a comma is. It’s a little distracting having all the words come at the same speed. Bob On Feb 27, 2014, at 14:54 , Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote: OK, I couldn't resist! Some of it is pretty clumsy but it's a start. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/50196612/Spritzing.livecode Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Thierry Douez th.do...@gmail.com wrote: That's pretty amazing Thierry. It was easy to get my reading speed up to 400wpm. Pete It's because of your sqlitz-mind. You can't imagine with my regexitz one :) More seriously, I'm eager to see some real use of this... in Livecode!! Thierry http://learn2spritz.com/ Thierry Douez - http://sunny-tdz.com Maker of sunnYperl - sunnYmidi - sunnYmage - sunnYpdf ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Finding available memory without shell, how to use hasMemory() - Found word(s) list error in the Text body
He's referring to system RAM here. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.comwrote: Gabriel, if you are saving to the boot volume and getting dow to 100MB, this is a very serious matter. You should *never* go below 10 gigs on a modern boot driveIf the volume is being used for a swap file, it's not as serious but will affect performance. Just a heads up. Bob On Feb 26, 2014, at 11:21 , Gabriel Johnson gwj...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the responses. Yes, we are saving a 100+ MB data file to disk, and when the free memory gets to be under 100 MB, saving to a standard hard drive (not SSD) sometimes ends up taking a very long time (in Mac OS X), making it appear to the user that the program has locked up. We have contemplated going about this a different way, but the quickest fix for us at the moment is to catch low memory situations. Mark: Yes, we need to know the amount of free ram (without counting the swap/inactive memory). Gabe Johnson gwj...@gmail.com 603-978-9881 On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Gabriel- Thursday, February 20, 2014, 11:07:59 AM, you wrote: Hey All, I am working on a program where I need to know the amount of available memory. I'm running on OS X and hasMemory() appears to return true/false for the same values regardless changes to free/available memory. Is there some trick to getting hasMemory() to correspond with the actual available memory? Is this possibly something that is being addressed in newer versions of LiveCode? Ah, the curse of modern operating systems... What the hasMemory() function does is allocate and then free the specified amount of memory, and then returns a boolean telling whether it was successful. However, before doing that, it casts the desired amount as a uint4, which limits the amount to 2147483647. If you're trying to see if more than 2G of memory is available, that won't help. And because modern operating systems will very happily exchange chunks of memory out to swap files when necessary, it's unlikely that you'll see the malloc fail, and thus you should see a true return value. Are you doing something where you really need to see the actual free ram without the swap/inactive memory? The available term here is a bit ambiguous, and depends on your needs. -- -Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com This communication may be unlawfully collected and stored by the National Security Agency (NSA) in secret. The parties to this email do not consent to the retrieving or storing of this communication and any related metadata, as well as printing, copying, re-transmitting, disseminating, or otherwise using it. If you believe you have received this communication in error, please delete it immediately. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Andrew Kluthe and...@ctech.me ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Support for Mac OSX 10.5
Yeah Leo LaPorte is not thrilled with that whole deal either, and he recommends post production guys go with Adobe’s product. Sigh Feels like the fall of an empire. Bob On Feb 27, 2014, at 16:12 , stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: like Lion and Mountain Lion, Mavericks doesn’t cost a thing. It costs a LOT if one can run 32 bit any more… more bricks on the shelf. Maybe Apple can shut up for a while now that they've forced everyone to 64 bit. It wouldn't be so bad if they hadn't tried to axe popular apps with completely new workflows. I have no feature in Mavericks that I would want except to enable newer software, like Final Cut Pro X - if I can endure the new workflow….and there's no demo available, so I can't even check it out. It's supposed to be better now. I'm still pissed about what happened to the REAL Final Cut Pro (7). And Waveburner, their Brilliant bastard stepchild of a CD mastering software. Never heard of it? Not surprised. (it was bundled with Logic for years.) - no replacement offered. Those guys don't even know what mastering means any more. It's not about 'crunching' plugins, it's about workflow. Somebody that probably never used it made the decision. I guess the main excuse is about the Carbon/Cocoa thing. They knifed that baby really good - and ignored and dismissed thousands of video professionals that depended on FCP. It's the arrogance that ticks me off. Most went to Adobe Premiere, as Avid has even more downsides. Nobody's really happy. sqb *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words* On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote: Re. my suggestion that it may be possible for older Macs to stay safe by upgrading to OS X 10.6: Looks like I had more faith in Apple than their decisions warrant, as they just knifed the baby, and 19% of Mac users along with it: Apple Retires Snow Leopard Support, Leaves 1 In 5 Macs In The Dust http://readwrite.com/2014/02/27/apple-snow-leopard-support-osx-mac ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Support for Mac OSX 10.5
I wanted to upgrade a quad code Xeon Apple Server, but any attempt to do so results in “You can’t do that!” Bob On Feb 27, 2014, at 15:39 , Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Re. my suggestion that it may be possible for older Macs to stay safe by upgrading to OS X 10.6: Looks like I had more faith in Apple than their decisions warrant, as they just knifed the baby, and 19% of Mac users along with it: Apple Retires Snow Leopard Support, Leaves 1 In 5 Macs In The Dust http://readwrite.com/2014/02/27/apple-snow-leopard-support-osx-mac Snow Leopard was released on August 28, 2009, and was the last version of OS X that ran on 32-bit CPUs. Sadly, this once-satirical comment about upgrades is increasingly relevant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=Hk8hxjpnUiw#t=44 -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Filling PDF Forms - Found word(s) list error in the Text body
Just an update: You do NOT need Acrobat Pro for the forms to autofill! You DO need Acrobat Pro to create the FDF files in the first place. If you are tempted to try and use a CSV file (Acrobat Pro can after all Export to this format) don’t. The import ONLY works with FDF files. Bob On Feb 26, 2014, at 20:01 , Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.commailto:bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com wrote: So instead of trying to piece together a demo stack of how I am filling PDF forms, I thought I would just write a (reasonable) short essay on how to. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] stop scrolling text - Spritz
Feel free to fix it! Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.comwrote: I'd like to see phrases go quickly, and slight pauses where a comma is. It's a little distracting having all the words come at the same speed. Bob On Feb 27, 2014, at 14:54 , Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote: OK, I couldn't resist! Some of it is pretty clumsy but it's a start. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/50196612/Spritzing.livecode Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Thierry Douez th.do...@gmail.com wrote: That's pretty amazing Thierry. It was easy to get my reading speed up to 400wpm. Pete It's because of your sqlitz-mind. You can't imagine with my regexitz one :) More seriously, I'm eager to see some real use of this... in Livecode!! Thierry http://learn2spritz.com/ Thierry Douez - http://sunny-tdz.com Maker of sunnYperl - sunnYmidi - sunnYmage - sunnYpdf ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: For List Members Only
Clearly this was from a non-List member. http://www.funnywebsite.com/funny-website/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/entertaining-cheese.jpg From now on we should send List applicants to this store first. Anyone who can't last 3.75 hours should be given a serious XTalking to and sent on their way;-) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
