card id not valid

2014-11-01 Thread Friedrich F. Grohmann
I've run into a strange problem with a stack. After changing the order of a
few cards (by way of copy/paste) a number of the involved cards will not
respond to go card id xxx. The card inspector clearly indicates both name
and number of those cards. However, if I try to proceed to the card by its
id, the message box tells me No such card. If it's go cd yyy and yyy is
the number of the card, no problem.

I'm working with Livecode 5.5.4 and the stack involved has served me for a
number of years so I don't think it is a problem of the version itself.

Any suggestion how this could be solved?

Thanks,
Fritz
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6.7.1 RC1 uncomment

2014-11-01 Thread Terence Heaford
I have just been editing/commenting/uncommenting a script and the uncomment 
shortcut does not seem to work (command_) on my Mac.

The menu highlights in the menubar but nothing happens in the script.

Can someone please verify this please.

I am using Yosemite.



All the best

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card id not valid

2014-11-01 Thread FlexibleLearning.com
Sounds peculiar, unless the defaultStack has changed.

Rather copy and paste to re-order the cards, have you tried setting the
number of the card instead? This will retain the original card ID for
continued navigation by ID.

Hugh Senior
FLCo


Friedrich F. Grohmann ffgrohm...@gmail.com wrote

I've run into a strange problem with a stack. After changing the order of a
few cards (by way of copy/paste) a number of the involved cards will not
respond to go card id xxx. The card inspector clearly indicates both name
and number of those cards. However, if I try to proceed to the card by its
id, the message box tells me No such card. If it's go cd yyy and yyy is
the number of the card, no problem.

I'm working with Livecode 5.5.4 and the stack involved has served me for a
number of years so I don't think it is a problem of the version itself.

Any suggestion how this could be solved?

Thanks,
Fritz


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Re: 6.7.1 RC1 uncomment

2014-11-01 Thread Jacques Hausser
Hi Terry,

It works without problems here (I-Mac 2012, Yosemite)

Jacques

 Le 1 nov. 2014 à 10:28, Terence Heaford t.heaf...@btinternet.com a écrit :
 
 I have just been editing/commenting/uncommenting a script and the uncomment 
 shortcut does not seem to work (command_) on my Mac.
 
 The menu highlights in the menubar but nothing happens in the script.
 
 Can someone please verify this please.
 
 I am using Yosemite.
 
 
 
 All the best
 
 Terry
 
 
 
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Re: 6.7.1 RC1 uncomment

2014-11-01 Thread Jacques Hausser
Sorry, I was not on the good version of LiveCode - I can confirm. The shortcut 
for uncomment doesn’t work (except it highlights the menu)

Jacques

 Le 1 nov. 2014 à 10:41, Jacques Hausser jacques.haus...@unil.ch a écrit :
 
 Hi Terry,
 
 It works without problems here (I-Mac 2012, Yosemite)
 
 Jacques
 
 Le 1 nov. 2014 à 10:28, Terence Heaford t.heaf...@btinternet.com a écrit :
 
 I have just been editing/commenting/uncommenting a script and the uncomment 
 shortcut does not seem to work (command_) on my Mac.
 
 The menu highlights in the menubar but nothing happens in the script.
 
 Can someone please verify this please.
 
 I am using Yosemite.
 
 
 
 All the best
 
 Terry
 
 
 
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Re: card id not valid

2014-11-01 Thread Friedrich F. Grohmann
Thanks for your response.

So far, indeed, I've reshuffled the cards by setting the number and never
had a problem. This strange situation arose when I wrote a script to move a
larger number of cards to the end of the stack and then tried to reconnect
the moved cards by their new ids to a button script. The really weird part
is that in a number of cases it works more or less, but for other cards the
id shown in the card inspector is not recognized at all.

I have copies of the stack, so not everything is lost, but I just wonder
how such a scenario is possible and whether the situation could be
remedied.

Thanks,
Fritz



On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 5:31 PM, FlexibleLearning.com 
ad...@flexiblelearning.com wrote:

 Sounds peculiar, unless the defaultStack has changed.

 Rather copy and paste to re-order the cards, have you tried setting the
 number of the card instead? This will retain the original card ID for
 continued navigation by ID.

 Hugh Senior
 FLCo


 Friedrich F. Grohmann ffgrohm...@gmail.com wrote

 I've run into a strange problem with a stack. After changing the order of a
 few cards (by way of copy/paste) a number of the involved cards will not
 respond to go card id xxx. The card inspector clearly indicates both name
 and number of those cards. However, if I try to proceed to the card by its
 id, the message box tells me No such card. If it's go cd yyy and yyy is
 the number of the card, no problem.

 I'm working with Livecode 5.5.4 and the stack involved has served me for a
 number of years so I don't think it is a problem of the version itself.

 Any suggestion how this could be solved?

 Thanks,
 Fritz


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Re: 6.7.1 RC1 uncomment

2014-11-01 Thread Jacques Hausser
Eh, it’s worse !
Several shortcuts don’t work - or work only the first time: e.g. command-E, 
command-K, command-0, command-9… and it’s the same with 7.0.1
Somebody already posted a bug report (13836).


 Le 1 nov. 2014 à 11:06, Jacques Hausser jacques.haus...@unil.ch a écrit :
 
 Sorry, I was not on the good version of LiveCode - I can confirm. The 
 shortcut for uncomment doesn’t work (except it highlights the menu)
 
 Jacques
 
 Le 1 nov. 2014 à 10:41, Jacques Hausser jacques.haus...@unil.ch a écrit :
 
 Hi Terry,
 
 It works without problems here (I-Mac 2012, Yosemite)
 
 Jacques
 
 Le 1 nov. 2014 à 10:28, Terence Heaford t.heaf...@btinternet.com a écrit :
 
 I have just been editing/commenting/uncommenting a script and the uncomment 
 shortcut does not seem to work (command_) on my Mac.
 
 The menu highlights in the menubar but nothing happens in the script.
 
 Can someone please verify this please.
 
 I am using Yosemite.
 
 
 
 All the best
 
 Terry
 

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Card ID not valid

2014-11-01 Thread Francis Nugent Dixon
Hi from Beautiful Brittany,

After more than 15 years with Hypercard and more than 10
with LiveCode, I have NEVER used the reference Card ID.
If I want to sort my cards (in dozens and dozens) of my data
stacks, I have a field in each card which is an ID which I use
to control card positioning my stack. I don’t even know the
rules governing Card ID numbering, and ‘cos I have no control
over it, I don’t use it.

Never had any problems !! Just trash the idea of Card ID
and go to a mechanism you can control 100%.

My 2 centimes …….

-Francis
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Re: card id not valid

2014-11-01 Thread FlexibleLearning.com
I can only suggest the obvious...

- Double-check the id against the inspector using the message box: put the
id of this cd, put there is a cd id [] etc

- Re-launch LC in case of digital indigestion

- Revert to backup and move the cards using number rather than cut/paste

- Worst case scenario, manually set re-set the card ids using set the id of
this cd to , but can be error prone without extreme caution!

At least you have a backup so not all is lost, which is good.

Hugh Senior
FLCo


Friedrich F. Grohmann ffgrohm...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks for your response.

So far, indeed, I've reshuffled the cards by setting the number and never
had a problem. This strange situation arose when I wrote a script to move a
larger number of cards to the end of the stack and then tried to reconnect
the moved cards by their new ids to a button script. The really weird part
is that in a number of cases it works more or less, but for other cards the
id shown in the card inspector is not recognized at all.

I have copies of the stack, so not everything is lost, but I just wonder how
such a scenario is possible and whether the situation could be remedied.

Thanks,
Fritz



On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 5:31 PM, FlexibleLearning.com 
ad...@flexiblelearning.com wrote:

 Sounds peculiar, unless the defaultStack has changed.

 Rather copy and paste to re-order the cards, have you tried setting 
 the number of the card instead? This will retain the original card ID 
 for continued navigation by ID.

 Hugh Senior
 FLCo


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Re: 6.7.1 RC1 uncomment

2014-11-01 Thread Terence Heaford
Thanks

All the best

Terry

 On 01 Nov 2014, at 11:07, Jacques Hausser jacques.haus...@unil.ch wrote:
 
 Eh, it’s worse !
 Several shortcuts don’t work - or work only the first time: e.g. command-E, 
 command-K, command-0, command-9… and it’s the same with 7.0.1
 Somebody already posted a bug report (13836).
 
 
 Le 1 nov. 2014 à 11:06, Jacques Hausser jacques.haus...@unil.ch a écrit :
 
 Sorry, I was not on the good version of LiveCode - I can confirm. The 
 shortcut for uncomment doesn’t work (except it highlights the menu)
 
 Jacques
 
 Le 1 nov. 2014 à 10:41, Jacques Hausser jacques.haus...@unil.ch a écrit :
 
 Hi Terry,
 
 It works without problems here (I-Mac 2012, Yosemite)
 
 Jacques
 
 Le 1 nov. 2014 à 10:28, Terence Heaford t.heaf...@btinternet.com a écrit 
 :
 
 I have just been editing/commenting/uncommenting a script and the 
 uncomment shortcut does not seem to work (command_) on my Mac.
 
 The menu highlights in the menubar but nothing happens in the script.
 
 Can someone please verify this please.
 
 I am using Yosemite.
 
 
 
 All the best
 
 Terry
 
 
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Re: Hmmm...

2014-11-01 Thread Bernard Devlin
Such discussions crop up on Hacker News every year or so.  They lament the
passing of Hypercard; then show no interest in hearing that
Metacard/Livecode carried on that tradition, with a living product for the
past 22 years.

It is very odd.  I've given up commenting on such discussions.

Bernard



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 Anyone else stumble across this recent discussion looking for something
 akin to The HyperCard Legacy?

 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8538408

 Nice to see some LiveCode comments there.

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Re: card id not valid

2014-11-01 Thread Björnke von Gierke
The Inspector does not show the ID of cards by default, it only pretends to do 
it, by using card id  as default name. If you change the name, you can 
see the real id appear on top of the inspector window.  This is done in the 
IDE with a script and might possibly be confused in your case (that'd be an IDE 
bug). But maybe you are simply looking at the name of the Card, but assume it's 
actually the ID, when it isn't anymore?

Relevant here is that the card ID can be set by script (but no one should ever 
do that, it's only meant for people who want to recreate stacks from scratch, 
that's also why it's not documented). So maybe you accidentally change the ID 
instead of the layer of the card in your script?

Try this in the multi line message box, or a button, to see the real ID's of 
your cards, independent of weird IDE behaviours and other, similar pitfalls:

repeat with x = 1 to the number of cards
  put the ID of card x  cr after theResult
end repeat
put theResult


On 01 Nov 2014, at 11:18, Friedrich F. Grohmann ffgrohm...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for your response.
 
 So far, indeed, I've reshuffled the cards by setting the number and never
 had a problem. This strange situation arose when I wrote a script to move a
 larger number of cards to the end of the stack and then tried to reconnect
 the moved cards by their new ids to a button script. The really weird part
 is that in a number of cases it works more or less, but for other cards the
 id shown in the card inspector is not recognized at all.
 
 I have copies of the stack, so not everything is lost, but I just wonder
 how such a scenario is possible and whether the situation could be
 remedied.
 
 Thanks,
 Fritz
 
 
 
 On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 5:31 PM, FlexibleLearning.com 
 ad...@flexiblelearning.com wrote:
 
 Sounds peculiar, unless the defaultStack has changed.
 
 Rather copy and paste to re-order the cards, have you tried setting the
 number of the card instead? This will retain the original card ID for
 continued navigation by ID.
 
 Hugh Senior
 FLCo
 
 
 Friedrich F. Grohmann ffgrohm...@gmail.com wrote
 
 I've run into a strange problem with a stack. After changing the order of a
 few cards (by way of copy/paste) a number of the involved cards will not
 respond to go card id xxx. The card inspector clearly indicates both name
 and number of those cards. However, if I try to proceed to the card by its
 id, the message box tells me No such card. If it's go cd yyy and yyy is
 the number of the card, no problem.
 
 I'm working with Livecode 5.5.4 and the stack involved has served me for a
 number of years so I don't think it is a problem of the version itself.
 
 Any suggestion how this could be solved?
 
 Thanks,
 Fritz
 
 
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Re: Hmmm...

2014-11-01 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 3:34 PM, Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com
wrote:

 Agreed, but Supercard suffered from early instability and general
 interface kludginess. I was a Supercard guy for a long time, but got
 sidetracked with other things. Still, I was stifled by the same issue I had
 with Hypercard: I wanted to create databases of many thousands of records,
 and there was no good way to do that without XCMD’s that turned out to be
 too unreliable for commercial use.


I used (and still have!) 1.5.  I used no externals or XCMDS.

My datasets were small enough that they just hung around in the cards.
This time around, it only looks like that, as I'm using databases.

The downside was that I made a new stack for each client by duplicating the
most recent, so changes/improvements didn't affect earlier cases . . .


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Re: card id not valid

2014-11-01 Thread Friedrich F. Grohmann
Thanks to all kind souls who responded. Björnke's explanation helped a lot
and, indeed, I assumed the displayed name was actually the ID since so far
it never failed me.

Again, thanks a lot.

Best,
Fritz

On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 10:20 PM, Björnke von Gierke b...@mac.com wrote:

 The Inspector does not show the ID of cards by default, it only pretends
 to do it, by using card id  as default name. If you change the name,
 you can see the real id appear on top of the inspector window.  This is
 done in the IDE with a script and might possibly be confused in your case
 (that'd be an IDE bug). But maybe you are simply looking at the name of the
 Card, but assume it's actually the ID, when it isn't anymore?

 Relevant here is that the card ID can be set by script (but no one should
 ever do that, it's only meant for people who want to recreate stacks from
 scratch, that's also why it's not documented). So maybe you accidentally
 change the ID instead of the layer of the card in your script?

 Try this in the multi line message box, or a button, to see the real ID's
 of your cards, independent of weird IDE behaviours and other, similar
 pitfalls:

 repeat with x = 1 to the number of cards
   put the ID of card x  cr after theResult
 end repeat
 put theResult


 On 01 Nov 2014, at 11:18, Friedrich F. Grohmann ffgrohm...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Thanks for your response.
 
  So far, indeed, I've reshuffled the cards by setting the number and never
  had a problem. This strange situation arose when I wrote a script to
 move a
  larger number of cards to the end of the stack and then tried to
 reconnect
  the moved cards by their new ids to a button script. The really weird
 part
  is that in a number of cases it works more or less, but for other cards
 the
  id shown in the card inspector is not recognized at all.
 
  I have copies of the stack, so not everything is lost, but I just wonder
  how such a scenario is possible and whether the situation could be
  remedied.
 
  Thanks,
  Fritz
 
 
 
  On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 5:31 PM, FlexibleLearning.com 
  ad...@flexiblelearning.com wrote:
 
  Sounds peculiar, unless the defaultStack has changed.
 
  Rather copy and paste to re-order the cards, have you tried setting the
  number of the card instead? This will retain the original card ID for
  continued navigation by ID.
 
  Hugh Senior
  FLCo
 
 
  Friedrich F. Grohmann ffgrohm...@gmail.com wrote
 
  I've run into a strange problem with a stack. After changing the order
 of a
  few cards (by way of copy/paste) a number of the involved cards will not
  respond to go card id xxx. The card inspector clearly indicates both
 name
  and number of those cards. However, if I try to proceed to the card by
 its
  id, the message box tells me No such card. If it's go cd yyy and
 yyy is
  the number of the card, no problem.
 
  I'm working with Livecode 5.5.4 and the stack involved has served me
 for a
  number of years so I don't think it is a problem of the version itself.
 
  Any suggestion how this could be solved?
 
  Thanks,
  Fritz
 
 
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are all of the 7 releaces/rc this buggy???

2014-11-01 Thread Dr. Hawkins
I've once again ventured into a newer version of livecode, and once again
am being hit by arbitrary changes/missing parts.

I re-enabled the code to allow pixelscaling (which took doing, as I'm on a
mac/Yosemite, and the key command to uncomment doesn't work), only to be
greeted with the message,

stack mcp: execution error at line 10046 (pixelScale: the pixelScale
property cannot be set on this platform), char 26


Really?

Hmm, cmd-m to get the message box back doesn't work properly, either.

Coming from 5.5, the IDE's performance can best be described as a slug.
Constant visually noticeable waits while it redraws the red dots?  I
understand the desire to have more of the system in livecode itself, but
performance has to count for *something!*

And I'm constantly ending up with open tabs in the editor for interface
elements, such as (at the moment) Button File and Field Entry (and I
don't even know what the latter even means!)

And now the editor itself seems to have crashed.

No, wait.  It's just that livecode is ignoring input.  It doesn't show as
unresponive in the force-quit window, and the finder can still bring a
window to the front when clicked upon, but it's dead.

This is dp- grade, not rc-, let alone an actual release.

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Recipe for errant menu hilite?

2014-11-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
I have an app in which after calling any modal dialog from a menu (ask, 
answer, or custom), when the dialog is done the menu remains hilited.


This is only on Mac, and I've only seen this in v6.7 and later.

Problem is that this is a complex app so it's unsuitable for a bug 
report, and I've been unable to make an isolated test stack that 
reproduces it.


Anyone else here seen menus remain hilited after the command they 
triggered has completed?


If so let's compare notes so we can get this addressed in v6.7.1.

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Progress info from wget or curl?

2014-11-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
When using shell to call something like wget or curl, normally we just 
get the final output, so if those programs provide any progress feedback 
when run in Terminal it's lost on us.


But it would be really nice to be able to get that info - anyone here 
know a way?


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stack property editor drifted in 7.0.1-rc1

2014-11-01 Thread Dr. Hawkins
Upon reopening a stack property editor, the body had drifted. (to a
negative vertical value relative to the window)

On clicking a surviving box, it popped up the popup well above the window:

http://dochawk.org/badStackDialog.png
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Re: stack property editor drifted in 7.0.1-rc1

2014-11-01 Thread Richard Gaskin

http://quality.runrev.com/

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Re: card id not valid

2014-11-01 Thread Peter M. Brigham
On Nov 1, 2014, at 5:13 AM, Friedrich F. Grohmann wrote:

 I've run into a strange problem with a stack. After changing the order of a
 few cards (by way of copy/paste) a number of the involved cards will not
 respond to go card id xxx. The card inspector clearly indicates both name
 and number of those cards. However, if I try to proceed to the card by its
 id, the message box tells me No such card. If it's go cd yyy and yyy is
 the number of the card, no problem.
 
 I'm working with Livecode 5.5.4 and the stack involved has served me for a
 number of years so I don't think it is a problem of the version itself.
 
 Any suggestion how this could be solved?

I may be mistaken but I believe when you paste a card, or any control in fact, 
it gets given a new ID. You'll have to refer to the card by name.

-- Peter

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text has moved in standalones

2014-11-01 Thread Todd Geist
Hello,

Why are my text labels not in the same place after I build a standalone.
It seems like they all move slightly.  Whats the trick?

Thanks

Todd
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Re: text has moved in standalones

2014-11-01 Thread dunbarx
Hi.


Do you mean the loc has changed? Only label fields?


Craig Newman



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Subject: text has moved in standalones


Hello,

Why are my text labels not in the same place after I build a standalone.
It seems like they all move slightly.  Whats the trick?

Thanks

Todd
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text labels changed in standalone

2014-11-01 Thread Todd Geist
Hello,

Why are my text labels not in the same place after I build a standalone.
It seems like they all move slightly.  Whats the trick?

Thanks
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revHHTP

2014-11-01 Thread Todd Geist
hello,

I am looking for a copy of the http server written in LiveCode. it was
called revHTTP, and before that it was mcHTTP

anyone have a copy?

Thanks

Todd
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Re: Progress info from wget or curl?

2014-11-01 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard Gaskin ambassador@... writes:

 
 When using shell to call something like wget or curl, normally we just 
 get the final output, so if those programs provide any progress feedback 
 when run in Terminal it's lost on us.
 
 But it would be really nice to be able to get that info - anyone here 
 know a way?
 


FWIW, here are the command args I use with wget (watch linewrap):

/usr/local/bin/wget --no-check-certificate --config=/etc/wgetrc -O-
--content-on-error -o /dev/null

but I prefer to use httpie and only resort to wget or curl if I need to send
client certificates (I need this often, and httpie doesn't yet support them
in a stable release).

-- 
 Mark Wieder
 ahsoftw...@gmail.com



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Re: 6.7.1 RC1 uncomment

2014-11-01 Thread Gerry
Same for 7.0 for me. I've found so many issues with that version...sigh...
On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 at 12:48 am, Terence Heaford t.heaf...@btinternet.com
wrote:

 Thanks

 All the best

 Terry

  On 01 Nov 2014, at 11:07, Jacques Hausser jacques.haus...@unil.ch
 wrote:
 
  Eh, it's worse !
  Several shortcuts don't work - or work only the first time: e.g.
 command-E, command-K, command-0, command-9... and it's the same with 7.0.1
  Somebody already posted a bug report (13836).
 
 
  Le 1 nov. 2014 à 11:06, Jacques Hausser jacques.haus...@unil.ch a
 écrit :
 
  Sorry, I was not on the good version of LiveCode - I can confirm. The
 shortcut for uncomment doesn't work (except it highlights the menu)
 
  Jacques
 
  Le 1 nov. 2014 à 10:41, Jacques Hausser jacques.haus...@unil.ch a
 écrit :
 
  Hi Terry,
 
  It works without problems here (I-Mac 2012, Yosemite)
 
  Jacques
 
  Le 1 nov. 2014 à 10:28, Terence Heaford t.heaf...@btinternet.com a
 écrit :
 
  I have just been editing/commenting/uncommenting a script and the
 uncomment shortcut does not seem to work (command_) on my Mac.
 
  The menu highlights in the menubar but nothing happens in the script.
 
  Can someone please verify this please.
 
  I am using Yosemite.
 
 
 
  All the best
 
  Terry
 
 
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