Re: Keyboard Shortcuts in Menus

2014-11-12 Thread Graham Samuel
Hi - I’ve searched recent activity on the list but I haven’t been able to find 
any reference to this issue apart from my own input, and in the QCC all I can 
see is a specific reference to a fault in the ‘Quit’ command in the IDE. Can 
someone please point me at a more comprehensive description of anything already 
written on this issue? I must have missed it.

TIA

Graham

 On 11 Nov 2014, at 16:01, Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 7:32 AM, Graham Samuel livf...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Can anyone explain what is going on behind the scenes?
 
 
 Keep in mind that even built-in keyboard commands are generally not
 functioning correctly in the current 7.0.1 (RC1)
 
 
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Re: Keyboard Shortcuts in Menus

2014-11-12 Thread Jacques Hausser
Hi Graham,

see bug 13836 (fixed - avaiting built) and the discussion there.

Jacques

 Le 12 nov. 2014 à 11:03, Graham Samuel livf...@mac.com a écrit :
 
 Hi - I’ve searched recent activity on the list but I haven’t been able to 
 find any reference to this issue apart from my own input, and in the QCC all 
 I can see is a specific reference to a fault in the ‘Quit’ command in the 
 IDE. Can someone please point me at a more comprehensive description of 
 anything already written on this issue? I must have missed it.
 
 TIA
 
 Graham
 
 On 11 Nov 2014, at 16:01, Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 7:32 AM, Graham Samuel livf...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Can anyone explain what is going on behind the scenes?
 
 
 Keep in mind that even built-in keyboard commands are generally not
 functioning correctly in the current 7.0.1 (RC1)
 
 
 -- 
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RELEASE LiveCode 6.7.1 RC2

2014-11-12 Thread Benjamin Beaumont
Dear List Members,

We're pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 6.7.1 RC2. This is a
maintenance release focusing on bug fixes and refinement.

*Release Contents*
This release contains 27 bug fixes. Most notable are the issues relating to
menus and shortcuts which have now been resolved on Mac OS.

For a full list of the bugs fixed in this release please see the release
notes:
http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/6_7_1/LiveCodeNotes-6_7_1_rc_2.pdf

*Getting the Release*
To get the release please select check for updates from the help menu
in the product or download the installer directly at:
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Re: Keyboard Shortcuts in Menus

2014-11-12 Thread Graham Samuel
Thanks - I see that 6.7.1 is addressing these issues, but I need them on LC7 
because I’m dipping my toe into Unicode. I’m hoping it’s only a day or so away…

Graham

 On 12 Nov 2014, at 10:13, Jacques Hausser jacques.haus...@unil.ch wrote:
 
 Hi Graham,
 
 see bug 13836 (fixed - avaiting built) and the discussion there.
 
 Jacques
 
 Le 12 nov. 2014 à 11:03, Graham Samuel livf...@mac.com a écrit :
 
 Hi - I’ve searched recent activity on the list but I haven’t been able to 
 find any reference to this issue apart from my own input, and in the QCC all 
 I can see is a specific reference to a fault in the ‘Quit’ command in the 
 IDE. Can someone please point me at a more comprehensive description of 
 anything already written on this issue? I must have missed it.
 
 TIA
 
 Graham
 
 On 11 Nov 2014, at 16:01, Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 7:32 AM, Graham Samuel livf...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Can anyone explain what is going on behind the scenes?
 
 
 Keep in mind that even built-in keyboard commands are generally not
 functioning correctly in the current 7.0.1 (RC1)
 
 
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Re: hair-pulling frustration

2014-11-12 Thread Mark Schonewille
I agree. I have always felt that RunRev should occasionally hire one or 
two people for beta-testing. They could test new releases before they 
are labelled pre-release. This would cost only a little money and safe 
hundreds, if not thousands of people lots of frustrations.


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On 11/11/2014 20:25, Dr. Hawkins wrote:

I can't help but wonder what it would take to get runrev to follow normal
practice and actually get something to alpha level before calling it a
developer preview, beta by a release candidate (ok, that still wouldn't
be normal), and working rather than early beta before release.

If I sold something at these stages, I'd be out of business by sundown.

Do the developers even pretend to use the IDE before slapping release
candidate on it?  Do they even have some kind of test suite?

The sheer number of pieces of working code that have broken when going from
5.5 to 7.0 is beyond belief, as is the giant step backward in the IDE.

I used to have to kill livecode frequently for the phantom shadow
variable problem.  While that happens more often under 6 (which is why I
could never use it) and 7, I now usually have to kill the whole thing
before that happens, as I can't get it to set a breakpoint, or even
acknowedge that I've clicked anything, delays of several seconds, and so
forth.

In addition to the others I've mentioned here an in other recent posts, the
recompile of sqlite is not quite compatible with the old, and behaves
differently.  For example, a semicolon at the end of an entry without
begin/end transaction now causes a parsing error.

Moving forward is one thing, but the only near release grade version is
5.x, which itself isn't quite ready for primetime.

OK, I'll stop venting, but the amount of time I'm losing to bugs that never
should have seen a public preview is getting increasingly frustrating.



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Re: hair-pulling frustration

2014-11-12 Thread Mark Schonewille

Jacque,

I teach a class for free and if one student doesn't understand one word, 
I spend some extra time with that student to make sure he or she 
understands it. If I didn't do this, I would lose the students one by 
one and in the end I'd be the only one understanding the lesson. So, I 
guess it means I slow down until every student understands all words.


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On 11/11/2014 22:53, J. Landman Gay wrote:

On 11/11/2014, 3:23 PM, Richmond wrote:

Several times I have stated that in my opinion RunRev are being swept
along into a sort of feature bloat which prevents them
from sorting out little 'niggles' in existing features. I se no reason
to change that opinion.


Suppose while teaching English, you were not paid by the time you put
in, but rather by the number of students who learn each word. If you
teach 10 students and they all learn the word, you get paid for 10 words.

If one student does not learn the word, then you must go back and
re-teach it until the student understands it. You don't get paid for
his word until that happens.

If 9 of your students learn the word but one does not, would you stop
introducing new words in class until the one student understands it? Or
would you re-teach that student on your own time? Or would you just
postpone it for a while because it affects only one person?

Suppose 6 students don't understand the word. In that case you would
probably decide to re-teach it during class time because so many
students are affected. The four remaining students would be idle until
that is done and may feel you are depriving them of a full education.

Suppose 3 students don't understand it. Where would you draw the line?
Remember, you get paid by the word.



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Re: hair-pulling frustration

2014-11-12 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 11:15 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com
wrote:

 An unresponsive IDE was mentioned. The editor and the IDE can both become
 frozen if you are debugging and you try to do something else without
 exiting debug mode. Not only can you not type into the editor, which is to
 be expected, but most of your stack and even the IDE won't respond either
 (though the message box still works, and the app browser.) Almost
 everything else just stops and you are in a state of suspension while the
 engine waits for debugging to finish. The solution is to hit the blue
 square to stop debugging, or to hit the Run button to execute the rest of
 the handler, and everything picks up again. I've never seen the IDE freeze
 up outside of that situation.


What works, however, is far more limited than in 5.5.

The freezes I see include while editing or scrolling, when it freezes for
2-5 seconds before accepting clicks or keys, and just plain locking up
*after* exiting debugging and refusing evermore to make any changes,
requiring a restart of livecode.


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Re: hair-pulling frustration

2014-11-12 Thread Richmond


On 11/12/2014 04:25 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote:

Jacque,

I teach a class for free and if one student doesn't understand one 
word, I spend some extra time with that student to make sure he or she 
understands it. If I didn't do this, I would lose the students one by 
one and in the end I'd be the only one understanding the lesson. So, I 
guess it means I slow down until every student understands all words.


I have parents who ask me how long it will take me to get through a 
textbook, and I
always tell them I don't know . . . because pupils are all different and 
one must work at the rate that is best for the slowest.


Richmond.



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On 11/11/2014 22:53, J. Landman Gay wrote:

On 11/11/2014, 3:23 PM, Richmond wrote:

Several times I have stated that in my opinion RunRev are being swept
along into a sort of feature bloat which prevents them
from sorting out little 'niggles' in existing features. I se no reason
to change that opinion.


Suppose while teaching English, you were not paid by the time you put
in, but rather by the number of students who learn each word. If you
teach 10 students and they all learn the word, you get paid for 10 
words.


If one student does not learn the word, then you must go back and
re-teach it until the student understands it. You don't get paid for
his word until that happens.

If 9 of your students learn the word but one does not, would you stop
introducing new words in class until the one student understands it? Or
would you re-teach that student on your own time? Or would you just
postpone it for a while because it affects only one person?

Suppose 6 students don't understand the word. In that case you would
probably decide to re-teach it during class time because so many
students are affected. The four remaining students would be idle until
that is done and may feel you are depriving them of a full education.

Suppose 3 students don't understand it. Where would you draw the line?
Remember, you get paid by the word.



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revExecuteSQL Security

2014-11-12 Thread Dan Friedman
Does anyone know what is going on in the background of LiveCode's revExecuteSQL 
command (and related commands: revOpenDatabase revDataFromQuery, etc)?   Are 
there any security features available? Is it safe to use these calls (read and 
write) to a server-side database in a commercially released app?   Or, is it 
just really intended for local databases?

Thanks!
-Dan
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Re: BBEdit Language Module for LiveCode

2014-11-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
I am uncertain how this helps me code in Livecode. Am I missing something? I 
downloaded TextMate and the bundles and installed the bundles, but I do not see 
anything for Livecode. Is this just for RevIgniter?

Bob S


On Nov 11, 2014, at 08:24 , Martin Koob 
mk...@rogers.commailto:mk...@rogers.com wrote:

Ralf Bitter who makes revIgniter has a bundle for the TextMate editor.

http://revigniter.com/accessory

Martin

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Re: New SQLite binary option

2014-11-12 Thread Peter Haworth
Thanks Kay.

I reported this as a bug but turns out to be a misunderstanding on the use
of revDatabaseColumnNamed.

Courtesy of Mark Waddingham, it turns out that if you are getting binary
data from the cursor, you need to use the form of revDatabaseColumnNamed
that includes the destination variable in the call, eg:

get revDatabaseColumnNamed(tCursor,BlobColumn,tData)

The form put revDatabaseColumnNamed into tData because the transfer
into tData stops at the first NULL character.

That is mentioned in the dictionary so my bad for not checking first.


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On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 10:30 PM, Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com
wrote:

 On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote:

  revExecuteSQL gDBID,Update statement,*btData
 

 Have you tried tData without the *b ?

 I thought the *b was the 'old' way of gettting binary data in SQLite.
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Re: revExecuteSQL Security

2014-11-12 Thread Peter Haworth
Hi Dan,
For any calls that access a remote database, you should use the form that
includes  :1, :2, etc in the SQL statement and variable name(s) to
supply the values for those placeholders.

That protects against SQL injection attacks and also removes the need to
escape quote characters in your data.



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On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 7:29 AM, Dan Friedman d...@clearvisiontech.com
wrote:

 Does anyone know what is going on in the background of LiveCode's
 revExecuteSQL command (and related commands: revOpenDatabase
 revDataFromQuery, etc)?   Are there any security features available? Is it
 safe to use these calls (read and write) to a server-side database in a
 commercially released app?   Or, is it just really intended for local
 databases?

 Thanks!
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Re: test

2014-11-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
Sorry I didn’t get this. :-P

Bob S


 On Nov 11, 2014, at 09:58 , Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote:
 
 No posts here since last night; unusual, so just making sure the system isn't 
 down.
 

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RELEASE LiveCode 7.0.1 RC2

2014-11-12 Thread Benjamin Beaumont
Dear List Members,

We're pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 7.0.1 RC2. This is a
maintenance release focusing on bug fixes and refinement.

*Release Contents*
This release contains 49 bug fixes. Most notable are the issues relating to
menus and shortcuts which have now been resolved on Mac OS.

For a full list of the bugs fixed in this release please see the release
notes:
http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/7_0_1/LiveCodeNotes-7_0_1_rc_2.pdf

*Getting the Release*
To get the release please select check for updates from the help menu
in the product or download the installer directly at:
http://downloads.livecode.com

*Feeding Back*
If you encounter any issues while working with the release please help us
by creating a report in our quality control center at:
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Warm regards,

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sound recording 6.7 and 7.0

2014-11-12 Thread Serge Brami
since LC6.7 all my scripts using record sound doesnt work any more
I work on a mac pro and yosemite

i have tried setting the dontuseqt prop to false  but it is the same recording 
is impossible 
if i go back to lc 6..6 everything is ok 

recording sound is a main key of my app so for me it is a big problem

any idea ?
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Re: Keyboard Shortcuts in Menus

2014-11-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
Looks like, from playing with the Menu Builder that whatever key the  precedes 
will be the hotkey in Windows. Of course, it needs to be unique for that menu 
button. If that is not working (by holding the Alt button and typing the key) 
then that is probably some kind of bug, unless you have keydown or keyup 
handlers that might intercept the keypresses. 

The character that the / precedes is the OS X shortcut. 

I find the menu builder quite good now. Initially back in Revolution 2.x it 
caused me a lot of problems. It could under certain circumstances corrupt the 
menu and make it unusable, but now I find it very reliable. 

Bob S


 On Nov 11, 2014, at 07:32 , Graham Samuel livf...@mac.com wrote:
 
 I'm using LC 7.0.1. Looking at both the LC User Guide and the Dictionary, I 
 find that I don’t exactly understand the way you put keyboard shortcuts into 
 menus and get them to activate, especially on Windows. I note for example:
 
 1. The ‘’ character is always present in a menu item which is also intended 
 to work as a keyboard shortcut, but it isn’t always at the beginning of the 
 menu’s text. Is there are reason for this, or is it just wilful eccentricity 
 on the part of the Menu Builder?
 
 2. In a cross platform app, I use a script at startup to switch the last item 
 of my 'File' menu from the Mac’s ‘Quit’ text
 
  Quit/Q
 
 to the Windows equivalent
 
 Exit/x
 
 This looks OK on the menu item display, but I don't think this works, even 
 though the standard shortcuts (Cut, Copy, Paste) work in the 'Edit' menu, and 
 they don't look any different in form. Naturally I may just have made a silly 
 mistake, but so far I can't see what it is.
 
 Can anyone explain what is going on behind the scenes?
 
 BTW, I don't especially care for the Menu Builder, but it seems that the LC 
 documentation assumes one is going to use it - maybe that's why the 
 documentation is a bit sketchy.
 
 TIA
 
 Graham
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Re: Keyboard Shortcuts in Menus

2014-11-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
I vill check out the link vich you posted to see vhat you speak of. :-)

Bob S


On Nov 12, 2014, at 02:13 , Jacques Hausser 
jacques.haus...@unil.chmailto:jacques.haus...@unil.ch wrote:

Hi Graham,

see bug 13836 (fixed - avaiting built) and the discussion there.

Jacques

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Re: hair-pulling frustration

2014-11-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
Let me just say that for some folks who do not have enough time to report bugs, 
they certainly have found an abundance of time to post their frustrations to 
this list! Just sayin’. 

Bob S


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Re: revExecuteSQL Security

2014-11-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
Use encryption when setting up your database connection. 

Bob S


 On Nov 12, 2014, at 07:29 , Dan Friedman d...@clearvisiontech.com wrote:
 
 Does anyone know what is going on in the background of LiveCode's 
 revExecuteSQL command (and related commands: revOpenDatabase 
 revDataFromQuery, etc)?   Are there any security features available? Is it 
 safe to use these calls (read and write) to a server-side database in a 
 commercially released app?   Or, is it just really intended for local 
 databases?
 
 Thanks!
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Re: hair-pulling frustration

2014-11-12 Thread Richmond

On 12/11/14 19:50, Bob Sneidar wrote:

Let me just say that for some folks who do not have enough time to report bugs, 
they certainly have found an abundance of time to post their frustrations to 
this list! Just sayin’.

Bob S


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Ooo! Bi*chy :)

The point that came out of this discussion is that the LiveCode 
'Community' are dividing into two camps:


1. The Open Source, willing-to-pitch-in-and-help brigade, who pay for 
their LiveCode by contributing, bug-hunting and so forth.


2. The Commercial, I-pay-and-I-expect quality brigade, who do not want 
to have to worry their pretty little heads about bugs.


The latter group have just as much right to complain about bugs as the 
former one.


Richmond.

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Re: hair-pulling frustration

2014-11-12 Thread Peter Haworth
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com wrote:

 SELECT * FROM sometable;  worked before the change with SQLite.  Now, it
 is necessary to remove the semicolon.


I just tried this using LC 5.5.4 (prior to the SQLite library change) and
LC 6.6.2 (after the SQLite library change), with and without the semicolon
and all tests worked fine.

You mentioned a parsing error - did you mean an LC compile error or an
SQLite error?  Either way, what was the error?


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Re: hair-pulling frustration

2014-11-12 Thread Peter Haworth
Can't quite agree with that simplistic analysis.  There are many Commercial
users who test the dp and rc releases, especially if they contain fixes for
bugs they reported.

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On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com
wrote:

 On 12/11/14 19:50, Bob Sneidar wrote:

 Let me just say that for some folks who do not have enough time to report
 bugs, they certainly have found an abundance of time to post their
 frustrations to this list! Just sayin’.

 Bob S


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 Ooo! Bi*chy :)

 The point that came out of this discussion is that the LiveCode
 'Community' are dividing into two camps:

 1. The Open Source, willing-to-pitch-in-and-help brigade, who pay for
 their LiveCode by contributing, bug-hunting and so forth.

 2. The Commercial, I-pay-and-I-expect quality brigade, who do not want to
 have to worry their pretty little heads about bugs.

 The latter group have just as much right to complain about bugs as the
 former one.

 Richmond.

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Re: sound recording 6.7 and 7.0

2014-11-12 Thread Devin Asay

On Nov 12, 2014, at 10:12 AM, Serge Brami brami.se...@gmail.com wrote:

 since LC6.7 all my scripts using record sound doesnt work any more
 I work on a mac pro and yosemite
 
 i have tried setting the dontuseqt prop to false  but it is the same 
 recording is impossible 
 if i go back to lc 6..6 everything is ok 
 
 recording sound is a main key of my app so for me it is a big problem
 
 any idea ?

It works for me on Mavericks with LC 6.7.1. I wonder if it is a Yosemite 
problem? Does QuickTime still come installed with Yosemite?

Devin


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Office of Digital Humanities
Brigham Young University


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Re: hair-pulling frustration

2014-11-12 Thread Geoff Canyon
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com
wrote:

 Let me just say that for some folks who do not have enough time to report
 bugs, they certainly have found an abundance of time to post their
 frustrations to this list! Just sayin’.


It takes far less time to send an email than it does to file a bug. This
has gotten better with the new bug entry interface -- not sure when that
went in.
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Re: hair-pulling frustration

2014-11-12 Thread Richard Gaskin

Geoff Canyon wrote:


It takes far less time to send an email than it does to file a bug.


If you just want to type, the difference is negligible.

If you want to actually see the bug fixed, the ROI for filing a bug 
report is much higher. ;)


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Datagrid : showing a row by auto scrolling

2014-11-12 Thread Glen Bojsza
I guess the title is hard to describe what I am trying to do.

Assume a user makes a selection by selecting a choice in a drop down list.

Based on the selection the associated line in the datagrid is located.

But the datagrid has 100+ lines and only shows 12 lines at a time unless
scrolled and the associated line (in this example it is line number 37).

I would like the datagrid to show line number 37 in the visible rows at row
6... in other words it looks like the datagrid was scrolled down to line 37
(keeping the order of the rows the same).

The datagrid doesn't have to visibly scroll just show the selected row (37)
at the position of the 6th row in the visible table with the rows on either
side of it.

I understand if you have questions about this question :-)

regards,

Glen
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Re: revExecuteSQL Security

2014-11-12 Thread Mark Wieder
Dan-

Wednesday, November 12, 2014, 7:29:06 AM, you wrote:

 Is it safe to use these calls (read and write) to a server-side
 database in a commercially released app?

No.

 Or, is it just really intended for local databases?

That's more the case. Any database worth talking about will
deliberately make you go out of your way to shoot yourself in the
foot. The more correct way to do this is to have a service running on
the server that acts as a secure buffer between the database and the
outside world.

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externals for mac

2014-11-12 Thread François Chaplais
I repost this forum post which has no answer at this time:

I am interested in building externals for the mac. Since the switch to a more 
cocoa friendly version of livecode, has the externals SDK been updated (I mean 
desktop, not iOS)? I specifically need 64 bit support for scientific 
computations, and I would like to use the accelerate framework, which is 
optimized for multicore processors.

In short, mac externals are still carbon or can they use cocoa?
Does anyone care about desktop externals anymore?

Best regards,
François
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Re: externals for mac

2014-11-12 Thread Monte Goulding

On 13 Nov 2014, at 3:50 pm, François Chaplais 
francois.chapl...@mines-paristech.fr wrote:

 I repost this forum post which has no answer at this time:
 
 I am interested in building externals for the mac. Since the switch to a more 
 cocoa friendly version of livecode, has the externals SDK been updated (I 
 mean desktop, not iOS)? I specifically need 64 bit support for scientific 
 computations, and I would like to use the accelerate framework, which is 
 optimized for multicore processors.
 
 In short, mac externals are still carbon or can they use cocoa?
 Does anyone care about desktop externals anymore?


I cross compile a number of my externals for iOS and OS X. I nearly did my 
mapkit external the other day until I realised that Apple only released a 64 
bit version of the framework. Once LiveCode goes 64 bit on OS X which should be 
soon I can get it out.

Use the iOS SDK then add a bundle target to the project.

Cheers

Monte

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Re: externals for mac

2014-11-12 Thread François Chaplais
Thanks Monte. I cross my fingers.
Le 13 nov. 2014 à 05:58, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com a écrit :

 
 On 13 Nov 2014, at 3:50 pm, François Chaplais 
 francois.chapl...@mines-paristech.fr wrote:
 
 I repost this forum post which has no answer at this time:
 
 I am interested in building externals for the mac. Since the switch to a 
 more cocoa friendly version of livecode, has the externals SDK been updated 
 (I mean desktop, not iOS)? I specifically need 64 bit support for scientific 
 computations, and I would like to use the accelerate framework, which is 
 optimized for multicore processors.
 
 In short, mac externals are still carbon or can they use cocoa?
 Does anyone care about desktop externals anymore?
 
 
 I cross compile a number of my externals for iOS and OS X. I nearly did my 
 mapkit external the other day until I realised that Apple only released a 64 
 bit version of the framework. Once LiveCode goes 64 bit on OS X which should 
 be soon I can get it out.
 
 Use the iOS SDK then add a bundle target to the project.
 
 Cheers
 
 Monte
 
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 Software development services
 Bespoke application development for vertical markets
 
 mergExt - There's an external for that!
 
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Re: sound recording 6.7 and 7.0

2014-11-12 Thread Serge .Brami
yes  QT still come with yosemite
I hope LC is working on the problem
any feed back of them ??
 Le 12 nov. 2014 à 21:40, Devin Asay devin_a...@byu.edu a écrit :
 
 
 On Nov 12, 2014, at 10:12 AM, Serge Brami brami.se...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 since LC6.7 all my scripts using record sound doesnt work any more
 I work on a mac pro and yosemite
 
 i have tried setting the dontuseqt prop to false  but it is the same 
 recording is impossible 
 if i go back to lc 6..6 everything is ok 
 
 recording sound is a main key of my app so for me it is a big problem
 
 any idea ?
 
 It works for me on Mavericks with LC 6.7.1. I wonder if it is a Yosemite 
 problem? Does QuickTime still come installed with Yosemite?
 
 Devin
 
 
 Devin Asay
 Office of Digital Humanities
 Brigham Young University
 
 
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Re: hair-pulling frustration

2014-11-12 Thread Geoff Canyon
Any positive value is higher than zero, so sure. I'm just expressing
frustration about barriers to reporting bugs. For example, a login is
required to file a bug, and the bug submission form all but requires an
example stack. I understand the desire to get clear, actionable bug
reports, and I understand the need to not waste limited team resources on
bad bug reports, but if the requirements are causing Jacque to fail to
report a bug, that's a huge issue.

On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com
wrote:

 Geoff Canyon wrote:

  It takes far less time to send an email than it does to file a bug.


 If you just want to type, the difference is negligible.

 If you want to actually see the bug fixed, the ROI for filing a bug report
 is much higher. ;)

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Re: hair-pulling frustration

2014-11-12 Thread Richmond

WINE has an interesting release model:  https://www.winehq.org/

Every 2 weeks, dead on time, they release another beta version,
and whenever (and 'whenever' can mean anything between 2 weeks to 2 
years) they

release a stable version.

The beta versions are labelled like this: 1.7.1, 1.7.2 and so on.

The stable releases always have an even number in second place, so 1.6, 
1.8 etc.


They advise anybody except for nutty fruitcakes like myself to stick with
the stable releases and explicitly state that they accept NO responsibility
for anything the beta versions may do.

Richmond.

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