Re: Keyboard Shortcuts in Menus
Hi - I’ve searched recent activity on the list but I haven’t been able to find any reference to this issue apart from my own input, and in the QCC all I can see is a specific reference to a fault in the ‘Quit’ command in the IDE. Can someone please point me at a more comprehensive description of anything already written on this issue? I must have missed it. TIA Graham On 11 Nov 2014, at 16:01, Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 7:32 AM, Graham Samuel livf...@mac.com wrote: Can anyone explain what is going on behind the scenes? Keep in mind that even built-in keyboard commands are generally not functioning correctly in the current 7.0.1 (RC1) -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Keyboard Shortcuts in Menus
Hi Graham, see bug 13836 (fixed - avaiting built) and the discussion there. Jacques Le 12 nov. 2014 à 11:03, Graham Samuel livf...@mac.com a écrit : Hi - I’ve searched recent activity on the list but I haven’t been able to find any reference to this issue apart from my own input, and in the QCC all I can see is a specific reference to a fault in the ‘Quit’ command in the IDE. Can someone please point me at a more comprehensive description of anything already written on this issue? I must have missed it. TIA Graham On 11 Nov 2014, at 16:01, Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 7:32 AM, Graham Samuel livf...@mac.com wrote: Can anyone explain what is going on behind the scenes? Keep in mind that even built-in keyboard commands are generally not functioning correctly in the current 7.0.1 (RC1) -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RELEASE LiveCode 6.7.1 RC2
Dear List Members, We're pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 6.7.1 RC2. This is a maintenance release focusing on bug fixes and refinement. *Release Contents* This release contains 27 bug fixes. Most notable are the issues relating to menus and shortcuts which have now been resolved on Mac OS. For a full list of the bugs fixed in this release please see the release notes: http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/6_7_1/LiveCodeNotes-6_7_1_rc_2.pdf *Getting the Release* To get the release please select check for updates from the help menu in the product or download the installer directly at: http://downloads.livecode.com *Feeding Back* If you encounter any issues while working with the release please help us by creating a report in our quality control center at: http://quality.runrev.com/ Warm regards, The LiveCode Team ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Keyboard Shortcuts in Menus
Thanks - I see that 6.7.1 is addressing these issues, but I need them on LC7 because I’m dipping my toe into Unicode. I’m hoping it’s only a day or so away… Graham On 12 Nov 2014, at 10:13, Jacques Hausser jacques.haus...@unil.ch wrote: Hi Graham, see bug 13836 (fixed - avaiting built) and the discussion there. Jacques Le 12 nov. 2014 à 11:03, Graham Samuel livf...@mac.com a écrit : Hi - I’ve searched recent activity on the list but I haven’t been able to find any reference to this issue apart from my own input, and in the QCC all I can see is a specific reference to a fault in the ‘Quit’ command in the IDE. Can someone please point me at a more comprehensive description of anything already written on this issue? I must have missed it. TIA Graham On 11 Nov 2014, at 16:01, Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 7:32 AM, Graham Samuel livf...@mac.com wrote: Can anyone explain what is going on behind the scenes? Keep in mind that even built-in keyboard commands are generally not functioning correctly in the current 7.0.1 (RC1) -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: hair-pulling frustration
I agree. I have always felt that RunRev should occasionally hire one or two people for beta-testing. They could test new releases before they are labelled pre-release. This would cost only a little money and safe hundreds, if not thousands of people lots of frustrations. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Maker for LiveCode: http://qery.us/468 Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ On 11/11/2014 20:25, Dr. Hawkins wrote: I can't help but wonder what it would take to get runrev to follow normal practice and actually get something to alpha level before calling it a developer preview, beta by a release candidate (ok, that still wouldn't be normal), and working rather than early beta before release. If I sold something at these stages, I'd be out of business by sundown. Do the developers even pretend to use the IDE before slapping release candidate on it? Do they even have some kind of test suite? The sheer number of pieces of working code that have broken when going from 5.5 to 7.0 is beyond belief, as is the giant step backward in the IDE. I used to have to kill livecode frequently for the phantom shadow variable problem. While that happens more often under 6 (which is why I could never use it) and 7, I now usually have to kill the whole thing before that happens, as I can't get it to set a breakpoint, or even acknowedge that I've clicked anything, delays of several seconds, and so forth. In addition to the others I've mentioned here an in other recent posts, the recompile of sqlite is not quite compatible with the old, and behaves differently. For example, a semicolon at the end of an entry without begin/end transaction now causes a parsing error. Moving forward is one thing, but the only near release grade version is 5.x, which itself isn't quite ready for primetime. OK, I'll stop venting, but the amount of time I'm losing to bugs that never should have seen a public preview is getting increasingly frustrating. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: hair-pulling frustration
Jacque, I teach a class for free and if one student doesn't understand one word, I spend some extra time with that student to make sure he or she understands it. If I didn't do this, I would lose the students one by one and in the end I'd be the only one understanding the lesson. So, I guess it means I slow down until every student understands all words. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Maker for LiveCode: http://qery.us/468 Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ On 11/11/2014 22:53, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 11/11/2014, 3:23 PM, Richmond wrote: Several times I have stated that in my opinion RunRev are being swept along into a sort of feature bloat which prevents them from sorting out little 'niggles' in existing features. I se no reason to change that opinion. Suppose while teaching English, you were not paid by the time you put in, but rather by the number of students who learn each word. If you teach 10 students and they all learn the word, you get paid for 10 words. If one student does not learn the word, then you must go back and re-teach it until the student understands it. You don't get paid for his word until that happens. If 9 of your students learn the word but one does not, would you stop introducing new words in class until the one student understands it? Or would you re-teach that student on your own time? Or would you just postpone it for a while because it affects only one person? Suppose 6 students don't understand the word. In that case you would probably decide to re-teach it during class time because so many students are affected. The four remaining students would be idle until that is done and may feel you are depriving them of a full education. Suppose 3 students don't understand it. Where would you draw the line? Remember, you get paid by the word. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: hair-pulling frustration
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 11:15 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: An unresponsive IDE was mentioned. The editor and the IDE can both become frozen if you are debugging and you try to do something else without exiting debug mode. Not only can you not type into the editor, which is to be expected, but most of your stack and even the IDE won't respond either (though the message box still works, and the app browser.) Almost everything else just stops and you are in a state of suspension while the engine waits for debugging to finish. The solution is to hit the blue square to stop debugging, or to hit the Run button to execute the rest of the handler, and everything picks up again. I've never seen the IDE freeze up outside of that situation. What works, however, is far more limited than in 5.5. The freezes I see include while editing or scrolling, when it freezes for 2-5 seconds before accepting clicks or keys, and just plain locking up *after* exiting debugging and refusing evermore to make any changes, requiring a restart of livecode. -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: hair-pulling frustration
On 11/12/2014 04:25 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Jacque, I teach a class for free and if one student doesn't understand one word, I spend some extra time with that student to make sure he or she understands it. If I didn't do this, I would lose the students one by one and in the end I'd be the only one understanding the lesson. So, I guess it means I slow down until every student understands all words. I have parents who ask me how long it will take me to get through a textbook, and I always tell them I don't know . . . because pupils are all different and one must work at the rate that is best for the slowest. Richmond. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Maker for LiveCode: http://qery.us/468 Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ On 11/11/2014 22:53, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 11/11/2014, 3:23 PM, Richmond wrote: Several times I have stated that in my opinion RunRev are being swept along into a sort of feature bloat which prevents them from sorting out little 'niggles' in existing features. I se no reason to change that opinion. Suppose while teaching English, you were not paid by the time you put in, but rather by the number of students who learn each word. If you teach 10 students and they all learn the word, you get paid for 10 words. If one student does not learn the word, then you must go back and re-teach it until the student understands it. You don't get paid for his word until that happens. If 9 of your students learn the word but one does not, would you stop introducing new words in class until the one student understands it? Or would you re-teach that student on your own time? Or would you just postpone it for a while because it affects only one person? Suppose 6 students don't understand the word. In that case you would probably decide to re-teach it during class time because so many students are affected. The four remaining students would be idle until that is done and may feel you are depriving them of a full education. Suppose 3 students don't understand it. Where would you draw the line? Remember, you get paid by the word. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
revExecuteSQL Security
Does anyone know what is going on in the background of LiveCode's revExecuteSQL command (and related commands: revOpenDatabase revDataFromQuery, etc)? Are there any security features available? Is it safe to use these calls (read and write) to a server-side database in a commercially released app? Or, is it just really intended for local databases? Thanks! -Dan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: BBEdit Language Module for LiveCode
I am uncertain how this helps me code in Livecode. Am I missing something? I downloaded TextMate and the bundles and installed the bundles, but I do not see anything for Livecode. Is this just for RevIgniter? Bob S On Nov 11, 2014, at 08:24 , Martin Koob mk...@rogers.commailto:mk...@rogers.com wrote: Ralf Bitter who makes revIgniter has a bundle for the TextMate editor. http://revigniter.com/accessory Martin ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New SQLite binary option
Thanks Kay. I reported this as a bug but turns out to be a misunderstanding on the use of revDatabaseColumnNamed. Courtesy of Mark Waddingham, it turns out that if you are getting binary data from the cursor, you need to use the form of revDatabaseColumnNamed that includes the destination variable in the call, eg: get revDatabaseColumnNamed(tCursor,BlobColumn,tData) The form put revDatabaseColumnNamed into tData because the transfer into tData stops at the first NULL character. That is mentioned in the dictionary so my bad for not checking first. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 10:30 PM, Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote: revExecuteSQL gDBID,Update statement,*btData Have you tried tData without the *b ? I thought the *b was the 'old' way of gettting binary data in SQLite. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: revExecuteSQL Security
Hi Dan, For any calls that access a remote database, you should use the form that includes :1, :2, etc in the SQL statement and variable name(s) to supply the values for those placeholders. That protects against SQL injection attacks and also removes the need to escape quote characters in your data. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 7:29 AM, Dan Friedman d...@clearvisiontech.com wrote: Does anyone know what is going on in the background of LiveCode's revExecuteSQL command (and related commands: revOpenDatabase revDataFromQuery, etc)? Are there any security features available? Is it safe to use these calls (read and write) to a server-side database in a commercially released app? Or, is it just really intended for local databases? Thanks! -Dan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: test
Sorry I didn’t get this. :-P Bob S On Nov 11, 2014, at 09:58 , Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: No posts here since last night; unusual, so just making sure the system isn't down. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RELEASE LiveCode 7.0.1 RC2
Dear List Members, We're pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 7.0.1 RC2. This is a maintenance release focusing on bug fixes and refinement. *Release Contents* This release contains 49 bug fixes. Most notable are the issues relating to menus and shortcuts which have now been resolved on Mac OS. For a full list of the bugs fixed in this release please see the release notes: http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/7_0_1/LiveCodeNotes-7_0_1_rc_2.pdf *Getting the Release* To get the release please select check for updates from the help menu in the product or download the installer directly at: http://downloads.livecode.com *Feeding Back* If you encounter any issues while working with the release please help us by creating a report in our quality control center at: http://quality.runrev.com/ Warm regards, The LiveCode Team -- _ Benjamin Beaumont . RunRev Ltd LiveCode Product Manager mail : 25a Thistle Street Lane South West, Edinburgh, EH2 1EW email : b...@runrev.com company : +44(0) 845 219 89 23 fax : +44(0) 845 458 8487 web : www.runrev.com LiveCode - Programming made simple ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
sound recording 6.7 and 7.0
since LC6.7 all my scripts using record sound doesnt work any more I work on a mac pro and yosemite i have tried setting the dontuseqt prop to false but it is the same recording is impossible if i go back to lc 6..6 everything is ok recording sound is a main key of my app so for me it is a big problem any idea ? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Keyboard Shortcuts in Menus
Looks like, from playing with the Menu Builder that whatever key the precedes will be the hotkey in Windows. Of course, it needs to be unique for that menu button. If that is not working (by holding the Alt button and typing the key) then that is probably some kind of bug, unless you have keydown or keyup handlers that might intercept the keypresses. The character that the / precedes is the OS X shortcut. I find the menu builder quite good now. Initially back in Revolution 2.x it caused me a lot of problems. It could under certain circumstances corrupt the menu and make it unusable, but now I find it very reliable. Bob S On Nov 11, 2014, at 07:32 , Graham Samuel livf...@mac.com wrote: I'm using LC 7.0.1. Looking at both the LC User Guide and the Dictionary, I find that I don’t exactly understand the way you put keyboard shortcuts into menus and get them to activate, especially on Windows. I note for example: 1. The ‘’ character is always present in a menu item which is also intended to work as a keyboard shortcut, but it isn’t always at the beginning of the menu’s text. Is there are reason for this, or is it just wilful eccentricity on the part of the Menu Builder? 2. In a cross platform app, I use a script at startup to switch the last item of my 'File' menu from the Mac’s ‘Quit’ text Quit/Q to the Windows equivalent Exit/x This looks OK on the menu item display, but I don't think this works, even though the standard shortcuts (Cut, Copy, Paste) work in the 'Edit' menu, and they don't look any different in form. Naturally I may just have made a silly mistake, but so far I can't see what it is. Can anyone explain what is going on behind the scenes? BTW, I don't especially care for the Menu Builder, but it seems that the LC documentation assumes one is going to use it - maybe that's why the documentation is a bit sketchy. TIA Graham ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Keyboard Shortcuts in Menus
I vill check out the link vich you posted to see vhat you speak of. :-) Bob S On Nov 12, 2014, at 02:13 , Jacques Hausser jacques.haus...@unil.chmailto:jacques.haus...@unil.ch wrote: Hi Graham, see bug 13836 (fixed - avaiting built) and the discussion there. Jacques ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: hair-pulling frustration
Let me just say that for some folks who do not have enough time to report bugs, they certainly have found an abundance of time to post their frustrations to this list! Just sayin’. Bob S ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: revExecuteSQL Security
Use encryption when setting up your database connection. Bob S On Nov 12, 2014, at 07:29 , Dan Friedman d...@clearvisiontech.com wrote: Does anyone know what is going on in the background of LiveCode's revExecuteSQL command (and related commands: revOpenDatabase revDataFromQuery, etc)? Are there any security features available? Is it safe to use these calls (read and write) to a server-side database in a commercially released app? Or, is it just really intended for local databases? Thanks! -Dan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: hair-pulling frustration
On 12/11/14 19:50, Bob Sneidar wrote: Let me just say that for some folks who do not have enough time to report bugs, they certainly have found an abundance of time to post their frustrations to this list! Just sayin’. Bob S ___ Ooo! Bi*chy :) The point that came out of this discussion is that the LiveCode 'Community' are dividing into two camps: 1. The Open Source, willing-to-pitch-in-and-help brigade, who pay for their LiveCode by contributing, bug-hunting and so forth. 2. The Commercial, I-pay-and-I-expect quality brigade, who do not want to have to worry their pretty little heads about bugs. The latter group have just as much right to complain about bugs as the former one. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: hair-pulling frustration
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com wrote: SELECT * FROM sometable; worked before the change with SQLite. Now, it is necessary to remove the semicolon. I just tried this using LC 5.5.4 (prior to the SQLite library change) and LC 6.6.2 (after the SQLite library change), with and without the semicolon and all tests worked fine. You mentioned a parsing error - did you mean an LC compile error or an SQLite error? Either way, what was the error? Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: hair-pulling frustration
Can't quite agree with that simplistic analysis. There are many Commercial users who test the dp and rc releases, especially if they contain fixes for bugs they reported. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/11/14 19:50, Bob Sneidar wrote: Let me just say that for some folks who do not have enough time to report bugs, they certainly have found an abundance of time to post their frustrations to this list! Just sayin’. Bob S ___ Ooo! Bi*chy :) The point that came out of this discussion is that the LiveCode 'Community' are dividing into two camps: 1. The Open Source, willing-to-pitch-in-and-help brigade, who pay for their LiveCode by contributing, bug-hunting and so forth. 2. The Commercial, I-pay-and-I-expect quality brigade, who do not want to have to worry their pretty little heads about bugs. The latter group have just as much right to complain about bugs as the former one. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: sound recording 6.7 and 7.0
On Nov 12, 2014, at 10:12 AM, Serge Brami brami.se...@gmail.com wrote: since LC6.7 all my scripts using record sound doesnt work any more I work on a mac pro and yosemite i have tried setting the dontuseqt prop to false but it is the same recording is impossible if i go back to lc 6..6 everything is ok recording sound is a main key of my app so for me it is a big problem any idea ? It works for me on Mavericks with LC 6.7.1. I wonder if it is a Yosemite problem? Does QuickTime still come installed with Yosemite? Devin Devin Asay Office of Digital Humanities Brigham Young University ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: hair-pulling frustration
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com wrote: Let me just say that for some folks who do not have enough time to report bugs, they certainly have found an abundance of time to post their frustrations to this list! Just sayin’. It takes far less time to send an email than it does to file a bug. This has gotten better with the new bug entry interface -- not sure when that went in. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: hair-pulling frustration
Geoff Canyon wrote: It takes far less time to send an email than it does to file a bug. If you just want to type, the difference is negligible. If you want to actually see the bug fixed, the ROI for filing a bug report is much higher. ;) -- Richard Gaskin LiveCode Community Manager rich...@livecode.org ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Datagrid : showing a row by auto scrolling
I guess the title is hard to describe what I am trying to do. Assume a user makes a selection by selecting a choice in a drop down list. Based on the selection the associated line in the datagrid is located. But the datagrid has 100+ lines and only shows 12 lines at a time unless scrolled and the associated line (in this example it is line number 37). I would like the datagrid to show line number 37 in the visible rows at row 6... in other words it looks like the datagrid was scrolled down to line 37 (keeping the order of the rows the same). The datagrid doesn't have to visibly scroll just show the selected row (37) at the position of the 6th row in the visible table with the rows on either side of it. I understand if you have questions about this question :-) regards, Glen ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: revExecuteSQL Security
Dan- Wednesday, November 12, 2014, 7:29:06 AM, you wrote: Is it safe to use these calls (read and write) to a server-side database in a commercially released app? No. Or, is it just really intended for local databases? That's more the case. Any database worth talking about will deliberately make you go out of your way to shoot yourself in the foot. The more correct way to do this is to have a service running on the server that acts as a secure buffer between the database and the outside world. -- -Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com This communication may be unlawfully collected and stored by the National Security Agency (NSA) in secret. The parties to this email do not consent to the retrieving or storing of this communication and any related metadata, as well as printing, copying, re-transmitting, disseminating, or otherwise using it. If you believe you have received this communication in error, please delete it immediately. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
externals for mac
I repost this forum post which has no answer at this time: I am interested in building externals for the mac. Since the switch to a more cocoa friendly version of livecode, has the externals SDK been updated (I mean desktop, not iOS)? I specifically need 64 bit support for scientific computations, and I would like to use the accelerate framework, which is optimized for multicore processors. In short, mac externals are still carbon or can they use cocoa? Does anyone care about desktop externals anymore? Best regards, François ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: externals for mac
On 13 Nov 2014, at 3:50 pm, François Chaplais francois.chapl...@mines-paristech.fr wrote: I repost this forum post which has no answer at this time: I am interested in building externals for the mac. Since the switch to a more cocoa friendly version of livecode, has the externals SDK been updated (I mean desktop, not iOS)? I specifically need 64 bit support for scientific computations, and I would like to use the accelerate framework, which is optimized for multicore processors. In short, mac externals are still carbon or can they use cocoa? Does anyone care about desktop externals anymore? I cross compile a number of my externals for iOS and OS X. I nearly did my mapkit external the other day until I realised that Apple only released a 64 bit version of the framework. Once LiveCode goes 64 bit on OS X which should be soon I can get it out. Use the iOS SDK then add a bundle target to the project. Cheers Monte -- M E R Goulding Software development services Bespoke application development for vertical markets mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: externals for mac
Thanks Monte. I cross my fingers. Le 13 nov. 2014 à 05:58, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com a écrit : On 13 Nov 2014, at 3:50 pm, François Chaplais francois.chapl...@mines-paristech.fr wrote: I repost this forum post which has no answer at this time: I am interested in building externals for the mac. Since the switch to a more cocoa friendly version of livecode, has the externals SDK been updated (I mean desktop, not iOS)? I specifically need 64 bit support for scientific computations, and I would like to use the accelerate framework, which is optimized for multicore processors. In short, mac externals are still carbon or can they use cocoa? Does anyone care about desktop externals anymore? I cross compile a number of my externals for iOS and OS X. I nearly did my mapkit external the other day until I realised that Apple only released a 64 bit version of the framework. Once LiveCode goes 64 bit on OS X which should be soon I can get it out. Use the iOS SDK then add a bundle target to the project. Cheers Monte -- M E R Goulding Software development services Bespoke application development for vertical markets mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: sound recording 6.7 and 7.0
yes QT still come with yosemite I hope LC is working on the problem any feed back of them ?? Le 12 nov. 2014 à 21:40, Devin Asay devin_a...@byu.edu a écrit : On Nov 12, 2014, at 10:12 AM, Serge Brami brami.se...@gmail.com wrote: since LC6.7 all my scripts using record sound doesnt work any more I work on a mac pro and yosemite i have tried setting the dontuseqt prop to false but it is the same recording is impossible if i go back to lc 6..6 everything is ok recording sound is a main key of my app so for me it is a big problem any idea ? It works for me on Mavericks with LC 6.7.1. I wonder if it is a Yosemite problem? Does QuickTime still come installed with Yosemite? Devin Devin Asay Office of Digital Humanities Brigham Young University ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: hair-pulling frustration
Any positive value is higher than zero, so sure. I'm just expressing frustration about barriers to reporting bugs. For example, a login is required to file a bug, and the bug submission form all but requires an example stack. I understand the desire to get clear, actionable bug reports, and I understand the need to not waste limited team resources on bad bug reports, but if the requirements are causing Jacque to fail to report a bug, that's a huge issue. On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Geoff Canyon wrote: It takes far less time to send an email than it does to file a bug. If you just want to type, the difference is negligible. If you want to actually see the bug fixed, the ROI for filing a bug report is much higher. ;) -- Richard Gaskin LiveCode Community Manager rich...@livecode.org ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: hair-pulling frustration
WINE has an interesting release model: https://www.winehq.org/ Every 2 weeks, dead on time, they release another beta version, and whenever (and 'whenever' can mean anything between 2 weeks to 2 years) they release a stable version. The beta versions are labelled like this: 1.7.1, 1.7.2 and so on. The stable releases always have an even number in second place, so 1.6, 1.8 etc. They advise anybody except for nutty fruitcakes like myself to stick with the stable releases and explicitly state that they accept NO responsibility for anything the beta versions may do. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode