date:20150113

The app didn’t actually crash with a crash report. It just gave me the bug 
report email, so it’s probably not reportable and I shouldn’t have called it a 
crash. This bug teaches me to ALWAYS check if a file exists before trying to 
link to it. It was part of the code when I was learning LiveCode, but that’s no 
excuse.

BTW, I noticed that for a number of lines, I had a curly bracket rather than a 
square one.

e.g put myNumber into myList[xyz”}
Shouldn’t the IDE toss an error alert? Seemed to work anyway. I fixed it anyway.
Best,
Bill

William A. Prothero
http://es.earthednet.org/

 On Jan 13, 2015, at 4:47 PM, Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 4:17 PM, William Prothero proth...@earthednet.org
 wrote:
 
 Never mind!! Looks like a found the problem. It was me. I found it when I
 was entering a bug report and typed “it’s as if the image is not being
 loaded.”  Bingo!! The paths are slightly different on Mac and PC
 standAlones.
 
 
 I've filed at least one that seems to cause a crash on Mac IDE and
 standalone when referencing a nonexistent property.  One went to waiting
 build this morning.  Hurrah!
 
 And I saw another variant when a stack got renamed; referencing its
 properties (once the named stack no longer existed) caused the crash.
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Re: [OT] I'm going to go live in a cave

2015-01-13 Thread Ralph DiMola

Ha ha +1. I won't feel so bad tomorrow when I look at my nasty 8 year old
keyboard. But it types so nice. I have an unholy attraction to it.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net

div Original message /divdivFrom: J. Landman Gay
jac...@hyperactivesw.com /divdivDate:01/13/2015 22:32 (GMT-05:00)
/divdivTo: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
/divdivSubject: Re: [OT] I'm going to go live in a cave /divdiv
/divActually I do. I never could get used to low profile keyboards so I'm
still using an ancient wired one. All the paint has worn off the keys on the
left side (the S went first) and the punctuation on the right is mostly gone.
It's filthy because I'm afraid if I clean it there will be nothing left. And
besides, it has a keypad.

On January 13, 2015 7:38:29 PM CST, Rick Harrison harri...@all-auctions.com
wrote:
Just go back to using wired keyboards and then you won’t have any
worries.
I’m still using my wired keyboard so no big change for me. ;-)

I’ll come and visit you in the cave when the time is appropriate! LOL

Cheers,

Rick

On Jan 13, 2015, at 6:30 PM, J. Landman Gay
jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote:

Wireless USB charger logs keystrokes:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/01/13/this_10_phone_charger_will_wirelessly_keylog_your_boss/

Cyberspace gets more disgusting every day.

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Script to Generate Concurrent Times

2015-01-13 Thread Brahmanathaswami

We are planning to do some webinars. I am looking for a liveCode script 
that can read a time value on our web server and output a little array like:


Honolulu: 1:30 PM Sunday Jan 16
San Franscisco 4:30 PM Sunday Jan 16
Chicago 6:30 PM Sunday Jan 16
Toronto: 6:30PM Sunday Jan 16
New York:  7:30PM Sunday Jan 16
Rio de Janeiro: 8:30PM Sunday Jan 16
Perth: 7:30 AM Monday Jan 16
Sydney: 11:30 Monday Jan 16


etc.

Yes, I could probably find this as  JS/php script, but no, i don't want 
to do that, as I'm a bit  crazy about trying to stay with LC!



Swasti Astu, Be Well!
Brahmanathaswami

Kauai's Hindu Monastery
www.HimalayanAcademy.com


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Re: [OT] I'm going to go live in a cave

Actually I do. I never could get used to low profile keyboards so I'm still
using an ancient wired one. All the paint has worn off the keys on the left
side (the S went first) and the punctuation on the right is mostly gone. It's
filthy because I'm afraid if I clean it there will be nothing left. And
besides, it has a keypad.

I’ll come and visit you in the cave when the time is appropriate! LOL

Cheers,

Rick

On Jan 13, 2015, at 6:30 PM, J. Landman Gay
jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote:

Wireless USB charger logs keystrokes:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/01/13/this_10_phone_charger_will_wirelessly_keylog_your_boss/

Cyberspace gets more disgusting every day.

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Re: [OT] Print to PDF

2015-01-13 Thread Paul Hibbert

No sign of any way to Print To PDF with FF or IE on Win 7 (running under 
Parallels).

A quick check on Google and it seems this is still the case with Win 8, it 
looks like the only option is Chrome or third party software, unless somebody 
else knows different.

Paul

 On Jan 13, 2015, at 4:41 PM, Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Gentlemen,
 
 thank you very much, that is good news.
 
 Anyone out there with Windows and Firefox and can confirm it has the 'Print
 to file' with the option to select pdf. The article Paul linked indicates
 Chrome is as Peter mentions for Debian, but doesn't mention Firefox; or IE.
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Re: [OT] I'm going to go live in a cave

2015-01-13 Thread Phil Davis

Yes, but did you see this one? It sort of restores hope that the 
sovereignty of the individual is possible:


http://www.gotenna.com/

Phil


On 1/13/15 3:30 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

Wireless USB charger logs keystrokes:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/01/13/this_10_phone_charger_will_wirelessly_keylog_your_boss/ 



Cyberspace gets more disgusting every day.



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Re: Fields Have Labels

2015-01-13 Thread FlexibleLearning.com

Hi Bill,

You should contact Pete Haworth if you have problems with lcstackbrowser...
mine is ControlBrowser. Similar, but very different!

With best regards,

Hugh Senior
FLCo


Original message:

Hugh,
Just a heads up re your lcstackbrowser app. I found that it interferes
with some of my code. Also, I got a message that it was trying to open one
of your handlers and couldn't because code was protected. I do a lot of
creating of fields, lines, and graphic elements. I'm trying to finish a
project, so don't have time to mess with it, so I had to remove it, as my
app behaved oddly.  So, just wondering if your handlers might have names
that interfere with mine.

Best,
Bill


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Re: Fields Have Labels

Buttons and groups do not have their own text displays, so their labels can 
inherent the text properties of the object. Adding a label to a field will 
require a whole set of new properties to distinguish its formatting from that 
of the field text. We'd also want relative placement properties (top, side), 
alignment, etc and by the time it's all there we'll basically have the same 
thing as our current field, only attached permanently to the parent field. So 
it seems to me that the only thing a label will save is the attachment bit. 

Also we'd need to introduce a new property that controls the offset of the 
label in pixels from the field itself, since the distance between the two will 
always vary depending on layout, font size, etc. This isn't an issue with 
buttons and groups, where each OS has existing rules about label placement. 

On January 12, 2015 10:39:54 PM CST, Jim Lambert j...@netrin.com wrote:
Following the logic that it’s more better to have separate fields for
labels would dictate that the existing built-in labels for buttons and
groups should be deprecated!

What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. ;)

JimL




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new player (AV Foundation) and MP3

2015-01-13 Thread Klaus major-k

Hi friends,

just tried the new player object with an MP3 file, could set its filename
but cannot start the *§$%# thing, neither with the controller nor via srcipt!? 

I get - could not create movie reference

Tried with 6.7.1 and 6.7.2 RC1, OS X 10.10.1 and dozens of my MP3s, 
which play fine in QT and iTunes.

I doublechecked: dontuseqt = TRUE

Please don't tell me that we cannot play MP3s in a player anymore!? :-/


Best

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Re: Fields Have Labels

2015-01-13 Thread Jim Lambert


I wrote:
 
  it’s more better 

“more better” !!!
What was I thinking?
Not much apparently!

Jim Lambert


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Re: Fields Have Labels

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 7:41 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com
wrote:

 You could add it to the request queue, but given their need to finish the
 rest of the items on the Road Map it would be months before you'd have it.

 Or you could have it today in just a couple hours as a custom control.


Wouldn't expect it to be implemented any time soon for the reason you
pointed out.  I just want to get it on record so it's not forgotten as a
possibility for the future.  I often see great ideas discussed on this list
but, as with bugs, if they don't make it to the QCC, there's no chance they
will ever be implemented.

I already have it as a custom control and it sounds like others do too but
it would be much more elegant if it was implemented within the engine.

Pete
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LiveCode 6 and making standalone

2015-01-13 Thread René Micout

Hello everybody,
Macintosh Yosemite.
When I construct a standalone with LiveCode 6, I choose “Move substacks into 
individual stackfiles” (for saving data in substack)
this works with LC 6.6.3  In the /Contents/MacOS/ of my application (ctrl + 
clic) I have 1 file (exec) + several stacks (substacks)
but when I do the same thing with LC 6.6.4, 6.6.5, 6.7, 6.7.1 (rc 4) I have 
only 1 file (exec) and my application cannot save any data.
Why ?
Is-it a bug ?
Tristement de Paris
René
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Re: [OT] I'm going to go live in a cave

2015-01-13 Thread Richmond



On 01/14/2015 07:15 AM, Ralph DiMola wrote:

Ha ha +1. I won't feel so bad tomorrow when I look at my nasty 8 year old 
keyboard. But it types so nice. I have an unholy attraction to it.




I use a keyboard that came with a third-hand G3 iMac model 1 that I 
bought in a pawnshop
in Dundee for my Mum and Dad a few years ago: the computer is now, 
sadly, no more,
but the rather sweet, small form-figure keyboard soldiers on - that's 
probably about 15 years old and counting: And! Do I bash the heck out of 
it or not?


Richmond.

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Re: [OT] I'm going to go live in a cave

2015-01-13 Thread Richmond



On 01/14/2015 02:04 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

Well then, your lightbulbs just logged that.



My excrement has been transmitting details about my eating habits as long as
I can remember: I'm way ahead of you, baby!

LOL!

Richmond.

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Re: new player (AV Foundation) and MP3


On 1/13/2015 12:24 PM, Klaus major-k wrote:

Hi friends,

just tried the new player object with an MP3 file, could set its filename
but cannot start the *§$%# thing, neither with the controller nor via srcipt!?

I get - could not create movie reference

Tried with 6.7.1 and 6.7.2 RC1, OS X 10.10.1 and dozens of my MP3s,
which play fine in QT and iTunes.

I doublechecked: dontuseqt = TRUE

Please don't tell me that we cannot play MP3s in a player anymore!? :-/


I get the same thing, also with m4a and wav files. It looks like 
audio-only files are broken.


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Re: Fields Have Labels

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 11:25 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com
 wrote:

 Let's figure out what we need for a wonderfully graceful implementation,
 and see that it happens.


It's QCC Report 14379 if anyone wants to follow it or add to it.

Pete
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Re: new player (AV Foundation) and MP3

2015-01-13 Thread Klaus major-k

Hi all,

 Am 13.01.2015 um 21:01 schrieb ray r...@linkit.com:
 
 This would be a major setback for us too.  Anybody know?

looks like this is a known bug :-/
http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14345

  Original message 
 From: Klaus major-k kl...@major-k.de 
 Date:01/13/2015  3:24 PM  (GMT-04:00) 
 To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
 Cc:  
 Subject: new player (AV Foundation) and MP3 
 
 Hi friends,
 
 just tried the new player object with an MP3 file, could set its filename
 but cannot start the *§$%# thing, neither with the controller nor via 
 srcipt!? 
 
 I get - could not create movie reference
 
 Tried with 6.7.1 and 6.7.2 RC1, OS X 10.10.1 and dozens of my MP3s, 
 which play fine in QT and iTunes.
 
 I doublechecked: dontuseqt = TRUE
 
 Please don't tell me that we cannot play MP3s in a player anymore!? :-/

Best

Klaus

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Re: new player (AV Foundation) and MP3

2015-01-13 Thread Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D

Klaus,

there is already an entry in the bug base for it.
Bug 14345 http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14345

A fix is awaited for 6.7.2 RC2.

Devin posted in a comment that using 

set the playrate of player „whatever“ to 1 

instead of

start player

will play the audio clip.

Regards,

Matthias




 Am 13.01.2015 um 19:24 schrieb Klaus major-k kl...@major-k.de:
 
 Hi friends,
 
 just tried the new player object with an MP3 file, could set its filename
 but cannot start the *§$%# thing, neither with the controller nor via 
 srcipt!? 
 
 I get - could not create movie reference
 
 Tried with 6.7.1 and 6.7.2 RC1, OS X 10.10.1 and dozens of my MP3s, 
 which play fine in QT and iTunes.
 
 I doublechecked: dontuseqt = TRUE
 
 Please don't tell me that we cannot play MP3s in a player anymore!? :-/
 
 
 Best
 
 Klaus
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 http://www.major-k.de
 kl...@major-k.de
 
 
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Re: new player (AV Foundation) and MP3

2015-01-13 Thread ray

Ahh - gotcha.  Thanks Klaus.


Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.


 Original message 
From: Klaus major-k kl...@major-k.de 
Date:01/13/2015  5:04 PM  (GMT-04:00) 
To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
Cc:  
Subject: Re: new player (AV Foundation) and MP3 

Hi all,

 Am 13.01.2015 um 21:01 schrieb ray r...@linkit.com:
 
 This would be a major setback for us too.  Anybody know?

looks like this is a known bug :-/
http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14345

  Original message 
 From: Klaus major-k kl...@major-k.de 
 Date:01/13/2015  3:24 PM  (GMT-04:00) 
 To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
 Cc:  
 Subject: new player (AV Foundation) and MP3 
 
 Hi friends,
 
 just tried the new player object with an MP3 file, could set its filename
 but cannot start the *§$%# thing, neither with the controller nor via 
 srcipt!? 
 
 I get - could not create movie reference
 
 Tried with 6.7.1 and 6.7.2 RC1, OS X 10.10.1 and dozens of my MP3s, 
 which play fine in QT and iTunes.
 
 I doublechecked: dontuseqt = TRUE
 
 Please don't tell me that we cannot play MP3s in a player anymore!? :-/

Best

Klaus

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Re: Fields Have Labels

2015-01-13 Thread Richard Gaskin

I'm indulging in a hat switch here with my CM sig because I think this 
aspect of the discussion may be helpful for many community interests:


Peter Haworth wrote:

 Wouldn't expect it to be implemented any time soon for the reason
 you pointed out.  I just want to get it on record so it's not
 forgotten as a possibility for the future.

Ideally (fully recognizing that we don't live in an ideal world g), 
the items in the RQCC would be actionable.  With feature requests, this 
might mean that we've taken the time for community discussion to decide 
what it is we're asking them to implement.


Once in a while there may be aspects of some feature requests which 
require input from the team, and thankfully Mark Waddingham and the 
others there tend to have good judgement about such things and the 
conversations in the RQCC are generally very productive, even if the 
original submission was lacking in detail.


In this case, though, given the range of opinions expressed here it may 
be helpful to continue this thread a bit longer, to flesh out some of 
the details so that later one someone on the team or a member of the 
community can treat the request as a spec and just dive in to make it 
happen.



 I often see great ideas discussed on this list but, as with bugs,
 if they don't make it to the QCC, there's no chance they will
 ever be implemented.

If an idea is so easily forgotten, what is its enduring value?

I'm not referring to this field label proposal here, but merely 
expressing a certain happy acceptance of the reality that we can 
brainstorm all sorts of things, but over time only a subset of them come 
up often enough to warrant investing in them.  I can't begin to describe 
how many half-baked ideas I have floating around in my hard drives. :)


In brief, I don't mind when ideas get forgotten, as I can have 
confidence that if something is frequently needed it'll come up again.



 I already have it as a custom control and it sounds like others do
 too but it would be much more elegant if it was implemented within
 the engine.

Given the extreme likelihood that any implementation by RunRev would be 
done in the same LiveCode we all use, I wouldn't sell your or any other 
implementation short.


On the contrary, I believe it may be helpful to identify the specific 
ways in which a custom control may be inelegant, and make sure we have 
what we need to make it as elegant as if it were a native control.


Because that's really what the future of controls in LiveCode is all about.

Let's have the future today.  Or at least as soon as practical.

Let's figure out what we need for a wonderfully graceful implementation, 
and see that it happens.


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 rich...@livecode.org

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RE: new player (AV Foundation) and MP3

2015-01-13 Thread ray

This would be a major setback for us too.  Anybody know?

 Original message 
From: Klaus major-k kl...@major-k.de 
Date:01/13/2015  3:24 PM  (GMT-04:00) 
To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
Cc:  
Subject: new player (AV Foundation) and MP3 

Hi friends,

just tried the new player object with an MP3 file, could set its filename
but cannot start the *§$%# thing, neither with the controller nor via srcipt!? 

I get - could not create movie reference

Tried with 6.7.1 and 6.7.2 RC1, OS X 10.10.1 and dozens of my MP3s, 
which play fine in QT and iTunes.

I doublechecked: dontuseqt = TRUE

Please don't tell me that we cannot play MP3s in a player anymore!? :-/

Best

Klaus
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http://www.major-k.de
kl...@major-k.de

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Re: [OT] Print to PDF

2015-01-13 Thread Kay C Lan

Gentlemen,

thank you very much, that is good news.

Anyone out there with Windows and Firefox and can confirm it has the 'Print
to file' with the option to select pdf. The article Paul linked indicates
Chrome is as Peter mentions for Debian, but doesn't mention Firefox; or IE.
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Re: Odd crash with 7.0.1 and 6.7.2(rc1)

2015-01-13 Thread Dr. Hawkins

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 4:17 PM, William Prothero proth...@earthednet.org
wrote:

 Never mind!! Looks like a found the problem. It was me. I found it when I
 was entering a bug report and typed “it’s as if the image is not being
 loaded.”  Bingo!! The paths are slightly different on Mac and PC
 standAlones.


I've filed at least one that seems to cause a crash on Mac IDE and
standalone when referencing a nonexistent property.  One went to waiting
build this morning.  Hurrah!

And I saw another variant when a stack got renamed; referencing its
properties (once the named stack no longer existed) caused the crash.
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Re: [OT] I'm going to go live in a cave

2015-01-13 Thread Richard Gaskin


Scott Rossi wrote:

 On Jan 13, 2015, at 4:04 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

 Wireless USB charger logs keystrokes:

 
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/01/13/this_10_phone_charger_will_wirelessly_keylog_your_boss/


 Cyberspace gets more disgusting every day.

 Dude, it’s not cyberspace any more.  It’s the Internet of Things :-)

Welcome to the future, brought to you by the What, me worry? folks 
making Internet of Things devices:


“I can see all of the devices in your home and I think I can control 
them...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2013/07/26/smart-homes-hack/

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Re: Player object

Again, the buttons behave more reliably with video than audio (likely related 
to the audio-only playback bug mentioned earlier).  You might be better off 
creating your own controller.

And yes, you’ll need to create your own track/playlist management.

Regards,

Scott Rossi 
Creative Director 
Tactile Media, UX/UI Design 

On Jan 13, 2015, at 5:10 PM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote:

 OK, got it. The buttons are for a different usage than I interpreted them.
 They do behave a bit strangely though.  Holding down the mouse sends a
 playpaused message and does fast forward through the track but the track
 doesn't start playing again when I let go the mouse.  Maybe I can store the
 currenttime in a mouseDown handler then in mouseUp start the player again
 if the currenttime is different.
 
 I guess I'll just add my own button for prev/next track.
 
 Thanks Scott.
 
 Pete
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 On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 3:37 PM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote:
 
 I don’t believe the player as any sense of “tracks” by itself.  The
 buttons on the right are for fast forward and reverse (click and hold), but
 like the play button, they don’t respond well when playing audio only.
 Play a movie and you’ll see the results better.
 
 Regards,
 
 Scott Rossi
 Creative Director
 Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
 
 On Jan 13, 2015, at 3:17 PM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote:
 
 Just venturing into using a player object for the first time.
 
 I'm playing mp3 files in my iTunes library and I have most of what I want
 to do figured out but one thing eludes me.
 
 The controller has a couple of buttons on the right that look like they
 are
 supposed to move to the prev/next track (I'm playing music from a
 library).  I see a playPaused message when I click on them but there
 doesn't appear to be a way to differentiate between clicking on one of
 those buttons and clicking the controller icon.  I'd like to start
 playing
 the prev/next track in the library.
 
 I'm sure I'm missing something obvious!
 
 Pete
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 Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and
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Re: POST Url Encoding

2015-01-13 Thread Kay C Lan

Hi Andy,

In your Blog:

on mouseUp
  //the '' in the string will cause problems so url encode it
  put urlEncode(blackwhite) into tencodedString
  put animal=  cat  color=  tencodedString into tmyData
  post tmyData to url http://2108.co.uk/code/lc/mypost.lc?;
end mouseUp

I think you meant:

put animal=  cat  color=  tencodedString into tmyData

which really should be:

put animal=catcolor=  tencodedString into tmyData

or you meant

put cat into tmyAnimal
put animal=  tmyAnimal  color=  tencodedString into tmyData
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Re: [OT] I'm going to go live in a cave

2015-01-13 Thread Devin Asay

Better not let my light switches hear you say that. They might tell the garage 
door, and then things could get ugly.

Devin


On Jan 13, 2015, at 5:20 PM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote:

 Actually, the cell phone charger is the key logger.  The lightbulbs are web 
 cams.
 
 Regards,
 
 Scott Rossi 
 Creative Director 
 Tactile Media, UX/UI Design 
 
 On Jan 13, 2015, at 4:04 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote:
 
 Well then, your lightbulbs just logged that.
 
 On 1/13/2015 5:58 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:
 Dude, it’s not cyberspace any more.  It’s the Internet of Things :-)
 
 Regards,
 
 Scott Rossi
 Creative Director
 Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
 
 
 On Jan 13, 2015, at 3:30 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com 
 wrote:
 
 Wireless USB charger logs keystrokes:
 
 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/01/13/this_10_phone_charger_will_wirelessly_keylog_your_boss/
 
 Cyberspace gets more disgusting every day.
 
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Re: [OT] I'm going to go live in a cave

Actually, the cell phone charger is the key logger.  The lightbulbs are web 
cams.

Regards,

Scott Rossi 
Creative Director 
Tactile Media, UX/UI Design 

On Jan 13, 2015, at 4:04 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote:

 Well then, your lightbulbs just logged that.
 
 On 1/13/2015 5:58 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:
 Dude, it’s not cyberspace any more.  It’s the Internet of Things :-)
 
 Regards,
 
 Scott Rossi
 Creative Director
 Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
 
 
 On Jan 13, 2015, at 3:30 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote:
 
 Wireless USB charger logs keystrokes:
 
 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/01/13/this_10_phone_charger_will_wirelessly_keylog_your_boss/
 
 Cyberspace gets more disgusting every day.
 
 --
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 HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
 
 
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Re: Odd crash with 7.0.1 and 6.7.2(rc1)

2015-01-13 Thread Mark Talluto

On Jan 13, 2015, at 4:17 PM, William Prothero proth...@earthednet.org wrote:

 Never mind!! Looks like a found the problem. It was me. I found it when I was 
 entering a bug report and typed “it’s as if the image is not being loaded.”  
 Bingo!! The paths are slightly different on Mac and PC standAlones.

This is good news, but you should still report this as nothing should cause 
LiveCode to crash. Glad you have this working though.


Best regards,

Mark Talluto
livecloud.io
canelasoftware.com



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Re: Free IP Calculator

2015-01-13 Thread Bob Sneidar

OK Sorry all this seems to return all the correct values. If anyone finds 
anymore bugs let me know. 

Bob S

function IPCalc theIPAddress, theSubnetMask
   set the itemdelimiter to .
   -- initial setup
   set the numberFormat to 
   
   -- convert the ip address to binary
   put 0 into whichOctet
   repeat for each item theOctet in theIPAddress
  add 1 to whichOctet
  put baseConvert(theOctet, 10, 2) into item whichOctet of theBinIPAddress
  add 0 to item whichOctet of theBinIPAddress
   end repeat
   
   -- convert the subnet mask to binary
   put 0 into whichOctet
   repeat for each item theOctet in theSubnetMask
  add 1 to whichOctet
  put baseConvert(theOctet, 10, 2) into item whichOctet of theBinSubnetMask
  add 0 to item whichOctet of theBinSubnetMask
   end repeat
   
   -- calculate the binary subnet address
   put theBinSubnetMask into theBinSubnetAddr
   put offset(0, theBinSubnetAddr) into theFirstNodeChar
   put theFirstNodeChar -1 into theCIDRDepth
   if theCIDRDepth 9 then subtract 1 from theCIDRDepth
   if theCIDRDepth 18 then subtract 1 from theCIDRDepth
   if theCIDRDepth 27 then subtract 1 from theCIDRDepth
   put char 1 to theFirstNodeChar -1 of theBinIPAddress into theBinNetworkAddr
   put char theFirstNodeChar to -1 of theBinIPAddress into theBinNodeAddr
   put theBinNodeAddr into theBinSubnetNodeAddr
   set the numberFormat to 0
   replace 1 with 0 in theBinSubnetNodeAddr
   put theBinNetworkAddr  theBinSubnetNodeAddr into theBinSubnetAddr
   
   -- convert the binary subnet address to decimal
   put 0 into whichOctet
   repeat for each item theOctet in theBinSubnetAddr
  add 1 to whichOctet
  put baseconvert(theOctet, 2, 10) into item whichOctet of theSubnetAddr
   end repeat
   
   -- calculate the first usable IP address
   put theSubnetAddr into theFirstAddr
   add 1 to item 4 of theFirstAddr
   
   -- calculate the binary broadcast address
   put theBinNodeAddr into theBinBcastNodeAddr
   replace 0 with 1 in theBinBcastNodeAddr
   put theBinNetworkAddr  theBinBcastNodeAddr into theBinBcastAddr
   
   -- convert the binary broadcast address to decimal
   put 0 into whichOctet
   repeat for each item theOctet in theBinBcastAddr
  add 1 to whichOctet
  put baseConvert(theOctet, 2 ,10) into item WhichOctet of theBcastAddr
   end repeat
   
   -- calculate the last usable IP address
   put theBcastAddr into theLastAddr
   subtract 1 from item 4 of theLastAddr
   
   -- calculate the number of usable addresses
   put item 4 of theLastAddr - item 4 of theFirstAddr +1 into theAddrCount
   
   -- calculate the CIDR notation
   put theSubnetAddr  /  theCIDRDepth into theCIDRAddr
   
   -- create array
   put theIPAddress into ipdata [ipaddress]
   put theSubnetMask into ipdata [subnetmask]
   put theSubnetAddr into ipdata [subnetaddr]
   put theFirstAddr into ipdata [firstaddr]
   put theBcastAddr into ipdata[bcastaddr]
   put theLastAddr into ipdata [lastaddr]
   put theCIDRDepth into ipdata [cidrdepth]
   put theAddrCount into ipdata [usablecount]
   put theCIDRAddr into ipdata [cidraddr]
   return ipdata
end IPCalc


 On Jan 9, 2015, at 16:42 , Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com wrote:
 
 Looks like that whacks some other things. I’ll look at this on the weekend 
 and verify all the returned values are correct. I can’t believe I saw 25 when 
 it was supposed to be 23 and I didn’t catch it.
 
 Bob S
 
 

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Re: Player object

OK, got it. The buttons are for a different usage than I interpreted them.
They do behave a bit strangely though.  Holding down the mouse sends a
playpaused message and does fast forward through the track but the track
doesn't start playing again when I let go the mouse.  Maybe I can store the
currenttime in a mouseDown handler then in mouseUp start the player again
if the currenttime is different.

I guess I'll just add my own button for prev/next track.

Thanks Scott.

Pete
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Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and
SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 3:37 PM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote:

 I don’t believe the player as any sense of “tracks” by itself.  The
 buttons on the right are for fast forward and reverse (click and hold), but
 like the play button, they don’t respond well when playing audio only.
 Play a movie and you’ll see the results better.

 Regards,

 Scott Rossi
 Creative Director
 Tactile Media, UX/UI Design

 On Jan 13, 2015, at 3:17 PM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote:

  Just venturing into using a player object for the first time.
 
  I'm playing mp3 files in my iTunes library and I have most of what I want
  to do figured out but one thing eludes me.
 
  The controller has a couple of buttons on the right that look like they
 are
  supposed to move to the prev/next track (I'm playing music from a
  library).  I see a playPaused message when I click on them but there
  doesn't appear to be a way to differentiate between clicking on one of
  those buttons and clicking the controller icon.  I'd like to start
 playing
  the prev/next track in the library.
 
  I'm sure I'm missing something obvious!
 
  Pete
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Re: Free IP Calculator

2015-01-13 Thread Bob Sneidar

Ok belay that last. Seems I found another bug that only appears with glassful 
subnet masks. I am going to have to convert everything to actual binary (not 
delimited octets) do my math then convert back to delimited octets.

Stay tuned…

Bob S


On Jan 13, 2015, at 16:39 , Bob Sneidar 
bobsnei...@iotecdigital.commailto:bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com wrote:

OK Sorry all this seems to return all the correct values. If anyone finds 
anymore bugs let me know.

Bob S

function IPCalc theIPAddress, theSubnetMask

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Re: Player object

I've got the track/playlist management stuff in place and I figured out a
way round the original problem too that seems to work.  The fast
forward/reverse buttons do work (at least in 6.6.2/OSX 10.7) although they
don't move things along very fast.

However, I closed my stack and re-opened it and now nothing plays.  Not
only that, the player object is just a plain white rectangle, no buttons,
no progress bar.  Not sure if this is related to the bug that's been
discussed today.

Oh well, I guess I'll need to make my own controller after all.  What fun.

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On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote:

 Again, the buttons behave more reliably with video than audio (likely
 related to the audio-only playback bug mentioned earlier).  You might be
 better off creating your own controller.

 And yes, you’ll need to create your own track/playlist management.

 Regards,

 Scott Rossi
 Creative Director
 Tactile Media, UX/UI Design

 On Jan 13, 2015, at 5:10 PM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote:

  OK, got it. The buttons are for a different usage than I interpreted
 them.
  They do behave a bit strangely though.  Holding down the mouse sends a
  playpaused message and does fast forward through the track but the track
  doesn't start playing again when I let go the mouse.  Maybe I can store
 the
  currenttime in a mouseDown handler then in mouseUp start the player again
  if the currenttime is different.
 
  I guess I'll just add my own button for prev/next track.
 
  Thanks Scott.
 
  Pete
  lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com
  Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and
  SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html
 
  On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 3:37 PM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com
 wrote:
 
  I don’t believe the player as any sense of “tracks” by itself.  The
  buttons on the right are for fast forward and reverse (click and hold),
 but
  like the play button, they don’t respond well when playing audio only.
  Play a movie and you’ll see the results better.
 
  Regards,
 
  Scott Rossi
  Creative Director
  Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
 
  On Jan 13, 2015, at 3:17 PM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote:
 
  Just venturing into using a player object for the first time.
 
  I'm playing mp3 files in my iTunes library and I have most of what I
 want
  to do figured out but one thing eludes me.
 
  The controller has a couple of buttons on the right that look like they
  are
  supposed to move to the prev/next track (I'm playing music from a
  library).  I see a playPaused message when I click on them but there
  doesn't appear to be a way to differentiate between clicking on one of
  those buttons and clicking the controller icon.  I'd like to start
  playing
  the prev/next track in the library.
 
  I'm sure I'm missing something obvious!
 
  Pete
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Re: Fields Have Labels

2015-01-13 Thread FlexibleLearning.com

TitleWidth (LabelWidth) already exists for buttons... would including the
property for field objects be useful?

Hugh Senior
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Re: [OT] Print to PDF

2015-01-13 Thread Peter Alcibiades

Debian, both Firefox (aka Iceweasel) and Chrome do this.  Firefox is the
easiest, you just do print to file, select pdf and give it a name.  Chrome
its hidden in the far right drop down menu, but after you find 'print' it
gives you the option of PDF. It is much less intuitive.  I would just give
him Firefox and it should work fine.

Incidentally, if you want to give anyone a truly portable Linux, try
Porteus.  Brilliant, runs from stick, and configure it exactly how you want.

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What versions of OS X, Xcode, iOS SDK to build externals?

2015-01-13 Thread Robert L.

I’ve posted this to the forums as well, but I know that the mailing list 
has a slightly different audience.  

I’m trying my hand at building some simple externals, but I can't even 
seem to make one attempt to build. Xcode is telling me that my project has 
0 targets, missing base SDK. I think it may be due to using too recent 
version of Xcode (and thus missing older iOS SDKs).

Currently I am on OS X Yosemite 10.10.1, Xcode 6.1.1 (which lets me target 
iOS 6.0 to 8.1), with the LiveCode iOS externals R14 SDK Support. 

Are there any tricks to build an external with the most recent tools? If 
not, what is the most recent combination of OS X and Xcode that is known 
to work for building iOS externals? I can build a virtual machine if 
needed.

Any advice in getting started building externals would be greatly 
appreciated.

Thanks, 

Robert

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Re: Fields Have Labels

2015-01-13 Thread Richard Gaskin


Peter Haworth wrote:

 All that would be great but I'd be happy if the label of a field
 could be displayed just as the label of a group can be displayed,
 coupled with making the new iconGravity property (or perhaps a
 more descriptive synonym for it like labelPosition) apply to a
 field but relative to the text of the field instead of the icon
 of a button. No need for showName, just set the label of the field
 to empty if you prefer to carry on using separate label fields.

 I know nothing of the complexities of the engine but this seems
 like it just makes use of existing properties and the existing
 logic for group labels and icon labels. Plus it enables you to
 carry on using separate label fields if you prefer. Off to the QCC.

If RunRev were to implement this they probably wouldn't do it in C++, 
but in LiveCode: they'd make it as a Widget.


This is exactly the sort of thing Open Language/Widgets was designed to 
do, allowing things that used to require C++ the option of being done in 
LiveCode at a savings every bit as significant as the reason we write 
our apps in LiveCode rather than C++.


You could add it to the request queue, but given their need to finish 
the rest of the items on the Road Map it would be months before you'd 
have it.


Or you could have it today in just a couple hours as a custom control.

V8's Widgets will make this a little nicer in some respects, but this 
one is, as you suggest, so relatively simple that you could build is as 
a custom control this morning and enjoy it this afternoon.


This isn't nearly as complex as the DataGrid, which is also just a 
custom control, independent of any goodies coming up in v8.


When Widgets later become available it may be worth revising to take 
advantage of some of the new things there, but just like the DataGrid 
there are many useful things that can be done with custom controls right 
now so there's no need to wait.


In fact, with this proposed object the bigger challenge is design; 
implementation is pretty straightforward.   So you can work out the 
design today, have it today, and if you choose to update it later for v8 
it only gets better.


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Re: Fields Have Labels

2015-01-13 Thread Peter M. Brigham

On Jan 13, 2015, at 2:00 AM, Peter Haworth wrote:

 Creation time is certainly one of the points where separate controls for a
 field and it's label is somewhat inconvenient.  As you mentioned, there are
 tools out there that help alleviate the problem including Richard's.
 
 I think I probably complicated the issue by saying we needed a new property
 so it could be used with any control, plus the various comments on text
 properties being available separately from the field itself.
 
 All that would be great but I'd be happy if the label of a field could be
 displayed just as the label of a group can be displayed, coupled with
 making the new iconGravity property (or perhaps a more descriptive synonym
 for it like labelPosition) apply to a field but relative to the text of the
 field instead of the icon of a button. No need for showName, just set the
 label of the field to empty if you prefer to carry on using separate label
 fields.
 
 I know nothing of the complexities of the engine but this seems like it
 just makes use of existing properties and the existing logic for group
 labels and icon labels. Plus it enables you to carry on using separate
 label fields if you prefer. Off to the QCC.

If you want the logic of a field label to be the same as that of a button or 
group, then setting the label to empty should make the label field display the 
name of the field -- and indeed this is the way a group and button labels work. 
The showname property (shouldn't this be called showlabel?) should be separate 
from the value of the label.

-- Peter

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Re: Fields Have Labels

2015-01-13 Thread Earthednet-wp

Hugh,
Just a heads up re your lcstackbrowser app. I found that it interferes with 
some of my code. Also, I got a message that it was trying to open one of your 
handlers and couldn't because code was protected. I do a lot of creating of 
fields, lines, and graphic elements. I'm trying to finish a project, so don't 
have time to mess with it, so I had to remove it, as my app behaved oddly.  So, 
just wondering if your handlers might have names that interfere with mine.

Best,
Bill

William Prothero
http://es.earthednet.org

 On Jan 13, 2015, at 12:54 AM, FlexibleLearning.com 
 ad...@flexiblelearning.com wrote:
 
 TitleWidth (LabelWidth) already exists for buttons... would including the
 property for field objects be useful?
 
 Hugh Senior
 FLCo
 
 
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Re: OT: Tacoma

2015-01-13 Thread James Little


Hi Mike,

Any chance you will be in Seattle?  My son and I would like to get together, if 
you’re up this way.

Jim Little


On Jan 12, 2015, at 12:29 PM, Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm going to be in Tacoma for a few days, is there anyone in the area that
 might want to meet for a beer?
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Odd crash with 7.0.1 and 6.7.2(rc1)

Folks:
I’m seeing a crash in both version 6.7.2(rc1) and 7.0.1 in my application. It 
only happens with a standalone in Windows. I’m running windows 7 64 bit in 
parallels 10, Yosemite on the Mac. The place where it causes the crash is in 
the following code, where the formatted width and formattedHeight of the map 
image comes out to be 0. This causes the crash. The app works fine in OS X 
standalone and in both Mac and Windows IDE’s.

 put getAFilePath(files/maps/)mapFileName into fullFilePath
   set the filename of image mainMap to fullFilePath
   set the visible of image mainMap to TRUE
   wait for 0 seconds with messages
   put the formattedWidth of image mainMap into mapWidth
   put the formattedHeight of image mainMap into mapHeight

This is a show stopper for my Windows version of my App. Can anybody suggest a 
workaround for this?

Regards
Bill

William A. Prothero
http://es.earthednet.org/

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Re: OT: Tacoma

2015-01-13 Thread Mike

I'm flying in to Seattle tonight, but will be going straight to my hotel in 
Tacoma. Won't have my own car, but might be able to figure out something with 
my friend (the reason I'm going) once I'm settled in. I'll be in Washington 
till next Tuesday. 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 13, 2015, at 9:50 AM, James Little littlejam...@mac.com wrote:
 
 
 Hi Mike,
 
 Any chance you will be in Seattle?  My son and I would like to get together, 
 if you’re up this way.
 
 Jim Little
 
 
 On Jan 12, 2015, at 12:29 PM, Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm going to be in Tacoma for a few days, is there anyone in the area that
 might want to meet for a beer?
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Re: Odd crash with 7.0.1 and 6.7.2(rc1)

2015-01-13 Thread Mark Talluto


On Jan 13, 2015, at 12:58 PM, William Prothero proth...@earthednet.org wrote:

 Folks:
 I’m seeing a crash in both version 6.7.2(rc1) and 7.0.1 in my application. It 
 only happens with a standalone in Windows. I’m running windows 7 64 bit in 
 parallels 10, Yosemite on the Mac. The place where it causes the crash is in 
 the following code, where the formatted width and formattedHeight of the map 
 image comes out to be 0. This causes the crash. The app works fine in OS X 
 standalone and in both Mac and Windows IDE’s.
 
 put getAFilePath(files/maps/)mapFileName into fullFilePath
   set the filename of image mainMap to fullFilePath
   set the visible of image mainMap to TRUE
   wait for 0 seconds with messages
   put the formattedWidth of image mainMap into mapWidth
   put the formattedHeight of image mainMap into mapHeight
 
 This is a show stopper for my Windows version of my App. Can anybody suggest 
 a workaround for this?

Hi Bill,

What happens if you increase your wait to 30 milliseconds?

If that does not work, what happens if you move the remaining code after the 
wait to another handler and then send to that new handler in 2 seconds?


Best regards,

Mark Talluto
livecloud.io
canelasoftware.com



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Re: Odd crash with 7.0.1 and 6.7.2(rc1)

Mark:
I still get the crash in both cases. Bummer. So it doesn’t appear to be a 
timing problem.
Bill

 On Jan 13, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Mark Talluto use...@canelasoftware.com wrote:
 
 
 On Jan 13, 2015, at 12:58 PM, William Prothero proth...@earthednet.org 
 wrote:
 
 Folks:
 I’m seeing a crash in both version 6.7.2(rc1) and 7.0.1 in my application. 
 It only happens with a standalone in Windows. I’m running windows 7 64 bit 
 in parallels 10, Yosemite on the Mac. The place where it causes the crash is 
 in the following code, where the formatted width and formattedHeight of the 
 map image comes out to be 0. This causes the crash. The app works fine in OS 
 X standalone and in both Mac and Windows IDE’s.
 
 put getAFilePath(files/maps/)mapFileName into fullFilePath
  set the filename of image mainMap to fullFilePath
  set the visible of image mainMap to TRUE
  wait for 0 seconds with messages
  put the formattedWidth of image mainMap into mapWidth
  put the formattedHeight of image mainMap into mapHeight
 
 This is a show stopper for my Windows version of my App. Can anybody suggest 
 a workaround for this?
 
 Hi Bill,
 
 What happens if you increase your wait to 30 milliseconds?
 
 If that does not work, what happens if you move the remaining code after the 
 wait to another handler and then send to that new handler in 2 seconds?
 
 
 Best regards,
 
 Mark Talluto
 livecloud.io
 canelasoftware.com
 
 
 
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Player object

Just venturing into using a player object for the first time.

I'm playing mp3 files in my iTunes library and I have most of what I want
to do figured out but one thing eludes me.

The controller has a couple of buttons on the right that look like they are
supposed to move to the prev/next track (I'm playing music from a
library).  I see a playPaused message when I click on them but there
doesn't appear to be a way to differentiate between clicking on one of
those buttons and clicking the controller icon.  I'd like to start playing
the prev/next track in the library.

I'm sure I'm missing something obvious!

Pete
lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com
Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and
SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html
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[OT] I'm going to go live in a cave


Wireless USB charger logs keystrokes:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/01/13/this_10_phone_charger_will_wirelessly_keylog_your_boss/

Cyberspace gets more disgusting every day.

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HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com

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Re: Player object

I don’t believe the player as any sense of “tracks” by itself.  The buttons on 
the right are for fast forward and reverse (click and hold), but like the play 
button, they don’t respond well when playing audio only.  Play a movie and 
you’ll see the results better.

Regards,

Scott Rossi 
Creative Director 
Tactile Media, UX/UI Design 

On Jan 13, 2015, at 3:17 PM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote:

 Just venturing into using a player object for the first time.
 
 I'm playing mp3 files in my iTunes library and I have most of what I want
 to do figured out but one thing eludes me.
 
 The controller has a couple of buttons on the right that look like they are
 supposed to move to the prev/next track (I'm playing music from a
 library).  I see a playPaused message when I click on them but there
 doesn't appear to be a way to differentiate between clicking on one of
 those buttons and clicking the controller icon.  I'd like to start playing
 the prev/next track in the library.
 
 I'm sure I'm missing something obvious!
 
 Pete
 lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com
 Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and
 SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html
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Re: [OT] I'm going to go live in a cave

Dude, it’s not cyberspace any more.  It’s the Internet of Things :-)

Regards,

Scott Rossi 
Creative Director 
Tactile Media, UX/UI Design 


On Jan 13, 2015, at 3:30 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote:

 Wireless USB charger logs keystrokes:
 
 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/01/13/this_10_phone_charger_will_wirelessly_keylog_your_boss/
 
 Cyberspace gets more disgusting every day.
 
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 HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
 
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Re: [OT] I'm going to go live in a cave


Well then, your lightbulbs just logged that.

On 1/13/2015 5:58 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:

Dude, it’s not cyberspace any more.  It’s the Internet of Things :-)

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX/UI Design


On Jan 13, 2015, at 3:30 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote:


Wireless USB charger logs keystrokes:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/01/13/this_10_phone_charger_will_wirelessly_keylog_your_boss/

Cyberspace gets more disgusting every day.

--
Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com



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Re: Odd crash with 7.0.1 and 6.7.2(rc1)